How to Make Conan's Atlantean Sword Better?

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  • @unpopularspirits829
    @unpopularspirits829 7 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    It wasn't my fault officer, the sword wants to move, it wants BLOOD!

    • @dearcastiel4667
      @dearcastiel4667 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Actually happenned to me in during a D&D cession. I was unknowingly weilding a sentient vampiric sword and it took over my mind for a moment, my character murdered a guy in the middle of the street and then I had to explain what happenned to the guard. I attacked them and my party members helped me, then I blamed it on the sword.

    • @spookyspecter2864
      @spookyspecter2864 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dear Castiel Fuckin' Craven Edge, am I right?

    • @sherrigofdenmark2823
      @sherrigofdenmark2823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      D&D is great, I pretty much broke the game by seducing everything the game master threw in our path, everybody hated me because my character was so stupidly op.

    • @Henchman_Holding_Wrench
      @Henchman_Holding_Wrench 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It will not return to its sheath until it has spilt blood

    • @lordmurderkitten6098
      @lordmurderkitten6098 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      People don't kill people, swords that crave the blood and innards of your enemies do.

  • @notfeedynotlazy
    @notfeedynotlazy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    About the "look at him, he's so strong, he can wield a heavy sword no problem" thing, and for the record, Arnold _complained_ about the sword's weight.

    • @hookedblades6471
      @hookedblades6471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah! Why should Arnold have to use such a light sword! He's gonna get out of shape!
      Note: I am joking.

    • @rickarda9232
      @rickarda9232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he did alot of swordfighting taught classes before the film(which you can tell) so he was probably used to more practical swords from those classes.

    • @notfeedynotlazy
      @notfeedynotlazy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rickarda9232 plus, the OG Conan sword is (in)famously well-made but horribly designed, heavy, cumbersome and illbalanced. I've handled a replica of the original and it's like handling a steel bar, not like handling a sword. It was made to look impressive, not to be functional. And it shows.
      Still don't want one of these in my collection - want two, at least.

  • @SomethingRandomInc
    @SomethingRandomInc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +614

    It's probably short so they could keep the whole sword in the frame and get closer shots.

    • @amassasa
      @amassasa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      interesting thought

    • @monkeypandatank
      @monkeypandatank 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had the exact same thought. It's the only way it makes sense to me.

    • @andrewstorey8584
      @andrewstorey8584 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Something Random Inc. that is part of the reason but the other part is the weight. I believe Arnold Schwarzenegger already thought it was really heavy as that version of the sword so they kept it short. I seen this in some other weapon channels. sorry can't be more helpful for my sources on that.

    • @mithshude
      @mithshude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but why wouldnt they just make it thinner in that case?

    • @SomethingRandomInc
      @SomethingRandomInc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      If Arnold Schwarzenegger thought it was heavy, it must've been lol.

  • @Dezerado
    @Dezerado 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Conan was my hero growing up... my dad read the stories and comics when he was young... and a lot of reverence was passed on to me... probably why I have such a respect for steel weapons

    • @freakydeke1
      @freakydeke1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      still got most of my conan stuff from the 70s and frazettas on walls of living room

    • @sherrigofdenmark2823
      @sherrigofdenmark2823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My father introduced me to Conan comics as well, Robert E. Howard was a genius and created such a beautifully savage world.

    • @indianmartialartsresearchg9728
      @indianmartialartsresearchg9728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've still got the action figure!

    • @DJDocsVideos
      @DJDocsVideos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's good fun but all the racism in Robert E. Howard's work feels very dated these days.

    • @krisztianpovazson4535
      @krisztianpovazson4535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +DJ Doc's Videos
      Aye, its racism should be updated to modern standards, like rambling about the evil privilege magic of Cishet White Men.

  • @WVMADMAN1
    @WVMADMAN1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    Remember where he found the atlantean sword, it was intended as a giant's short sword not a human's long sword, thus the odd proportions.But on a side note, could you imagine trying to block that thing if the wielder was strong enough to use it properly!

    • @citizeneveryman6798
      @citizeneveryman6798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      WVMADMAN1 exactly

    • @LaughingOwlKiller
      @LaughingOwlKiller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      why block it when you can redirect the momentum of the less nimble blade and make him overextend

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +LaughingOwlKiller exactly. Have it roll over to you side when blocking it to redirect the blunt force of the attack.

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      It's also worth noting that the sword dimensions hearken to bronze and iron age designs, rather that medieval sword technology. If you compare it to scaled-up weapons from that period, it's just about right. I think the blade thickness suggestion is an interesting idea, though.

    • @CreeperKiller666
      @CreeperKiller666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @roguishpaladin: Precisely! Many real-world late Bronze age and early Iron Age swords were rather short. The fictional time and place in which Conan exists is heavily modeled on those time periods. Longer swords became more popular in the late parts of the iron age and in the early medieval period. Thematically, Conan should probably not have a greatsword, katana, kriegsmesser, claymore, or zwiehander, but rather a Kopesh, Gladius, Jian, or other short type of sword.

  • @dalawdog
    @dalawdog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    But what is steel, compared to the hand that wields it.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      In this case, a very tired hand.

    • @ericward8459
      @ericward8459 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      What is the hand compared to the will that compels it?

    • @battleburger
      @battleburger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DOOM, DOOM, DOOM

  • @jasondoe2596
    @jasondoe2596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    • _reads title_
    • _mumbles_ "Best. Soundtrack. Ever"
    • _goes on to watch video_

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      best soundtrack ever confirmed

    • @Adagamante
      @Adagamante 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's one of the few movies I'd recommend on the soundtrack alone.

    • @HeadCannonPrime
      @HeadCannonPrime 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I listen to the soundtrack more than I have seen the movie. I can actually see the scenes in my head while listening to it.

    • @LordJTE
      @LordJTE 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason Doe adds pommel meme

  • @MrDmitriRavenoff
    @MrDmitriRavenoff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    A fantasy sword he actually likes? Holy crow!

  • @ricardocastillo5485
    @ricardocastillo5485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video, but as I've said before, I think the reason it was compact is because Conan was a thief and adventurer in the movie, not a soldier going into battle. He's running down tunnels, scaling the walls of a tower, climbing down ropes and swimming moats as much as fighting. The sword was a compromise, kinda like a concealed carry pistol.

    • @JoJoRogain
      @JoJoRogain ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like a carbine loaded with .50 Beowulf, at only 10 rounds. Perfect for Arnie to concussively knock out armored guards who was the only actor on set able to swing the heavy sword effectively

    • @GholaTleilaxu
      @GholaTleilaxu หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember Conan fighting his enemies, with a metal sword or with bare flesh fists. I don't remember Conan running down tunnels like a rat.

  • @1Kapuchu100
    @1Kapuchu100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    Plot twist: hollow pommels were used to transport beer during long marches.

    • @MrAranton
      @MrAranton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      No: It's a weapon to fight like with like; hollow pommels to end rightly the hollow headed...

    • @whyjay9959
      @whyjay9959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      It's a pretty small space for beer. Maybe it was something stronger...
      *Unscrews pommel to end the day rightly*

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      something to end your consciousness rightly

    • @geusetelli
      @geusetelli 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nothing beats a good drink after a hard day's war i say

    • @bobgreen6311
      @bobgreen6311 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hollow pommels are for hollow knights...

  • @whyjay9959
    @whyjay9959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The greatsword is made of 15th century steel; I assume the Atlantean sword is also inspired by the short and chunky swords of the bronze and iron age, but I don't think even they were this heavy, and the Atlantean sword is implied to be relatively good steel.

  • @DeusNukum
    @DeusNukum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First, I love your channel, enjoyed this video, and like the designs you showed. The thing about Conan is that he is represented as having oppressive strength. Which is not to say, "look at him, he can swing a heavy sword." It is to say that, a big man with a heavy object crushes everything. It would be more tiring for him to swing, yes, but also more tiring to defend against, and Conan is not just strong, but has stamina to boot. Basically Beowulf. Additionally, he did not just fight people, he fought beasts of great size. If you want to crack the skull of a giant serpent's, troll, or a golem made of stone created by a weaver of the dark arts, you need a lot of energy, and a heavy sword does that. Typical sword use is not how Conan uses a sword, not always. I know you are a big proponent of sharp swords, and I am too, but Conan needs a tool that can fight off creatures beyond the scope of your typical human vs. human fight, and for that there is the Atlantian sword.

  • @JohnDowl
    @JohnDowl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    @Skallagrim:
    You should really work as a movie consultant!

    • @InSanic13
      @InSanic13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But TH-cam is his job, so we would get far fewer videos...

    • @rickau
      @rickau 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are full blow companies which already make historically accurate and or custom weapons/props for film/tv and they do so on a regular basis.
      Where I find historians are usually "ignored" is whether something is accurate for the time period (think Braveheart with the kilts being 200-ish years early, i think). Sometimes this is a legitimate oversight and other times they know it is out of place but run with it as what should be used is aesthetically displeasing...

    • @DJDocsVideos
      @DJDocsVideos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No one ever listens to consultants ask the guys and lady who worked on "Kingdom of Heavens"

    • @Nurk0m0rath
      @Nurk0m0rath 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I forget the name of the movie but I've heard that in the film where the concept of the knight being winched onto his horse first appeared, the historical consultant begged the director not to do it. But they did it anyway. And it became the equivalent of a meme, copied from movie to movie until a significant part of the movie-going population was convinced that it was historical, and it took pretty thorough debunking to break that stereotype. Some people still think armor is that heavy, and the theme survives and thrives in online games and RPGs. For a more modern portrayal, look at the show Vikings, where the vast majority of armor and clothing better fits the fantasy stereotype of vikings than the historical evidence of norse culture.
      And another point in braveheart where the historian was most likely ignored is in the ridiculous use of the shield wall. As far as I know, no army that ever formed a shield wall would break formation to rush the enemy headlong (much less to jump up and onto the enemy *formation's* weapons), and I'm pretty sure a historian would know that too. Movies made in a certain time period are ATROCIOUS at historical depictions, and I'm sure we can all name dozens of films that do this. Directors are getting better in this regard, probably because the internet means people can do their own research from home so film companies are under more pressure to get things right, but there are still a lot of examples where history was completely ignored in favor of the stereotype and general "coolness."

    • @joshm3484
      @joshm3484 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Braveheart? The story of William Wallace, the rich Scottish noble and knight who lived about 100 years before claymores became common? Yep, definitely historically accurate.

  • @Thane36425
    @Thane36425 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Back in the day there were programs about this movie, or ones it was mentioned on. They said that the sword was very heavy even compared to other ones in the movie and that Arnold was the only one who could use it. Even then it wasn't easy for him. This is probably true since if you watch, he does seem to be a little slow with it. Perhaps that is part because he's having trouble moving it and part putting too much momentum into that thing would be dangerous for the stuntmen he was fighting, and part the strain it would be to stop it.

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So Sven-Ole Thorsen, Denmark's Strongest Man (83) and Europe's 10th Strongest Man (82) is a weakling?

  • @danthemandoris
    @danthemandoris 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think a big reason why they made it so short is that it helps Conan look even bigger. The audience probably presumes it's a normal length sword and that he just dwarfs it, it adds to the illusion that he's a giant barbarian.

    • @jerrynorton1080
      @jerrynorton1080 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats why Groo has that pair of shoto?

  • @44WarmocK77
    @44WarmocK77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's interesting that your two-handed version actually looks far more "natural" for the sword design itself. I mean, a ricasso on s one-handed sword clips a lot of useful edge away from the already relatively short blade.
    I think I'd take the longer one if I could buy it. :3

  • @Mjolnir007
    @Mjolnir007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Its still the most beautiful sword ever.

    • @azuregriffin1116
      @azuregriffin1116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Na, the Master Sword is.

    • @firepower7017
      @firepower7017 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Azure Griffin Not even close

    • @rollothewalker5535
      @rollothewalker5535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like a kitsch. It looks like it fucking escaped from china town. Ugly as fuck if you ask me.

    • @jackofastora8962
      @jackofastora8962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rollothewalker5535 blade looks more beautiful then your sister mate

    • @CrniWuk
      @CrniWuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Says the Mjølnir.

  • @buttsufancypantsu1644
    @buttsufancypantsu1644 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wonder if Skall has come to regret making that video about ending people rightly yet. That's not to say I regret it, the knowledge obtained from that video has saved my life on numerous occasions since.

    • @cuachogaidh
      @cuachogaidh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      buttsu fancypantsu I regret it. 90% of the comments, regardless of topic, are about pommels. it passed up annoying a long time ago.

    • @buttsufancypantsu1644
      @buttsufancypantsu1644 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, it's gotten me to the point where I want to end them rightly.

    • @Tentegen
      @Tentegen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      buttsu fancypantsu I still enjoy the comments. it's nice to know that he has a community big enough and dedicated to continue memes only they know about. that's pretty cool.
      I've always wondered what video everyone gets the pommel jokes from, seeing how I've been subscribed for almost a year but haven't seen Skall mention anything of the sort about "ending them rightly" and any extreme fighting situation reguarding using pommels.

    • @SoulmongerV2
      @SoulmongerV2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      "End Him Rightly" - A bizarre tactic in a Medieval fighting manual (Gladiatoria MS KK5013)

  • @monkyh6of6
    @monkyh6of6 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've being watching your videos for a while now and I think there probably the best put together on TH-cam very useful and informative

  • @jaganzakahn
    @jaganzakahn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the kind of video that made me fall in love with your content, Skall. I remember the first one I saw was the one about shard blades and it got me hooked.

  • @Alberto-mq3jm
    @Alberto-mq3jm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anything wielded by Arnold is automatically the deadliest weapon in the whole multiverse.

  • @mythguard6865
    @mythguard6865 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    When holding a real sword "I'm really feeling it!!!"

    • @gokuuzumaki70
      @gokuuzumaki70 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When holding the monado "I'm really feeling it!"

    • @mythguard6865
      @mythguard6865 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Goku Uzumaki you know it!

    • @deathangellink
      @deathangellink 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ''can you feel it Mr Conan ??''

    • @Tentegen
      @Tentegen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what a necromeme~

  • @lordtentacle9074
    @lordtentacle9074 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love his videos. You get what you are promised and no useless stretching out of the videos length.

  • @joshgraham2456
    @joshgraham2456 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos so much. I get excited with every upload. And thank you for making me even more interested in swords and collecting them ☺️ keep up the good work!

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Length (or lack thereof) is also a bit puzzling when you consider the in-universe origins of the sword. Conan picks it up from this Atlantean king (or general?) whose skeleton is far taller than a normal human's. Milius says something to that effect on the BRD-commentary and it's pretty obvious when you look at the scene where the corpse's hand rests on the sword's pommel.
    So to that guy, this sword could only have been a short-sword at best - or perhaps even only a longer dagger. And yet it's presented in his tomb as if it had been his most prized weapon. Granted: We aren't told anything about Atlantean culture or burial rituals in the film, but I still thought it a little odd.. :)

  • @frealms
    @frealms 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Skallagrim likes the pommel, what a shock...
    Now being a bit more serious, I think the length was probably a production choice to fit it better in the shots or even to make it look small when compared to Conan himself, giving him more super-human features ("That big sword looks so tiny when he wields it, he is inhumanly big!").
    Or maybe they just knew squat about it and it's all empty speculation and the sword just looked cool enough xD

    • @whyjay9959
      @whyjay9959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The sword's previous owner was even bigger, though. Well, taller at least.

    • @cuachogaidh
      @cuachogaidh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it was supposed to be a giant's short sword.

    • @makaiev
      @makaiev 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      all the above my friend, all the above...

    • @_XR40_
      @_XR40_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of the above. The sword was made katana-length because the actors trained with katanas.

  • @Droggarth
    @Droggarth 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a newer subscriber of yours, first few videos I saw I liked due to you making actual sense of the real thing. Decided to subscribe several months ago because you have this practical sense of how real historical battles would go and what weapon is more useful than some other or vice versa and so on and so forth. Plus you have this charismatic Viking-esque personality, I'm european myself so I also have quite a bit in common with the Vikings as the country I'm in was also a place of harbor at few areas near the seas (hint: Estonia).
    Anyhow glad you like the Conan's Atlantean sword too, am fan of that sword myself and I agree with making it longer and lighter to add some real usage to the sword. What made me like Conan and the sword he finds in the movie is how much Arnie puts a strong sense of strength into the character without speaking much and the scene with finding that sword from the ancient tomb in the cave is powerful in a sense of both music and how special it was for Conan when he found that sword.
    That and then there's the Riddle of Steel mystery/enigma put into effect by Crom, god under the mountain. Which is a powerful effect itself and the way Conan's father speaks about it all to the young Conan is a priceless moment as it has a sense of strength, mystery and vague path given to understand the meaning of steel throughout the rest of the movie. The Riddle of Steel has a real sensible meaning/answer that applies even in real life.

  • @FrozenLemur
    @FrozenLemur 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm loving the videos you've been posting! Keep up the great work.

  • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
    @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually kinda like the stubbyness of it. Not for practicality sake of course, but because I feel it makes the details of his sword more concentrated and dense as well as fitting with the whole barbaric feel of minimal looking equipment. Dudes in basically a loincloth so I think having a shorter sword actually fits with the theme.

  • @nate_thealbatross
    @nate_thealbatross 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Now someone needs to make this so we can buy it... Skallgrim's Atlantean greatsword.

    • @freakydeke1
      @freakydeke1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      see brother banzai

    • @nate_thealbatross
      @nate_thealbatross 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. They even have Link's sword. Want.

  • @davidb8815
    @davidb8815 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That side-by-side of the historical greatsword and the shorter & heavier movie sword is the picture that's worth a thousand words when it comes to this subject. Well done again Skall :)

  • @StudSupreme
    @StudSupreme 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoyable and thoughtful. When Skall makes a vid, he's practically inviting you into his house for a cup of tea. It's quite cool. :-)

  • @thorzap1374
    @thorzap1374 7 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Hey Skallagrim I have a remake of one of Kratos' sword from the God of War series (not the sword of olympus). If I sent that in would you be interested in reviewing it?

    • @RammerDarkSun
      @RammerDarkSun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      really? i wish i could see it in action in real life

    • @mrgilgamesh4252
      @mrgilgamesh4252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      They are treated more like flails than swords though. In-game they count as little more than glorified daggers that he swings about like yo-yos. Awesome to play, awesome to watch. Same principal as the Witcher combat; you can see what they were going for and, for the character it was designed for, it works. But practicality? Pffffft

    • @onigames7309
      @onigames7309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      According to the wiki, they are falchion-like blades. But yes, they are a bit stubby.

    • @williamblazkowicz5587
      @williamblazkowicz5587 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Please answer my question about another video game weapon. How effect would the penetrator (sr3 dildo bat) be in real life?

    • @grinningchicken
      @grinningchicken 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that would be a cool one to review

  • @user-nm8vk7yd3b
    @user-nm8vk7yd3b 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "Atlanean sword" is not а sword. "Atlanean sword" is а dagger. The Atlantic man had a height of 3-4 meters, therefore, his palm was the width of 2-2,5 times more than humans. The hilt of a "Atlantean sword" designed for one palm...the palm of the atlantic man. Therefore, "Atlanean sword" has a small length, but is designed with a long handle.

    • @seighta5714
      @seighta5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True, that's a dagger. To be correct, the altantean general is 2.5m. Said by Millius.

    • @Knight121198
      @Knight121198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seighta5714 From what i have heard it was a Short sword the Giant used with one hand and was part of a matched set he duel wielded, although its brother was never found.

    • @seighta5714
      @seighta5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Knight121198 i never heard about this. I read the interview and it is not mentioned.

    • @AutoFirePad
      @AutoFirePad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just recently realized that and I wanted to comment on the subject.
      In the movie you can see Conan moving the hand of the Atlantic man and it is huge. I don't know if it is a dagger but surely is meant to be used one handed!

    • @bondrewdthenovel3598
      @bondrewdthenovel3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AutoFirePad This is the scene: th-cam.com/video/pmnbK9VR7VM/w-d-xo.html
      There is a full shot of the throne and you can see that the hand of the corpse can easily grip the sword one handed.

  • @gianlucaborg195
    @gianlucaborg195 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up. Epic explanation and show. Good job, eager to see much more vids!

  • @dotark
    @dotark 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad too see more about hema and swords again

  • @richstone2627
    @richstone2627 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I agree but I wouldn't put the leather on the revised version. I never understood why they made the sword so short. I read the book before the movie came out and the sword belonged to a Giant so it should have been much larger even if it was a arming sword for the Giant. Conan's Father's sword is outstanding as well but suffers from being too heavy and could use some length as well. I own both and they feel like holding a large crowbar.

    • @The4cp
      @The4cp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rich Stone I have the Atlantean Sword. You're absolutely right. It's nearly unusable.

    • @pendantblade6361
      @pendantblade6361 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rich Stone Which book was this? Im familiar with original Howard stories, but not ones by future writers.

    • @LaughingOwlKiller
      @LaughingOwlKiller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think he means the novelization for the film

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rich, think of it as an iron age sword for a giant. Then the dimensions might make more sense.

    • @ThetaReactor
      @ThetaReactor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His father's sword was cast iron, so it would have to be short and stout to have any utility at all. The real riddle of steel is how anyone in that world built a good sword in the absence of proper forging techniques.

  • @kingkessef6040
    @kingkessef6040 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Damn...that thing is heavy as shit! It'd be like swinging a AK-47 around.

    • @carbonbasedlifeform6693
      @carbonbasedlifeform6693 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      King Kessef An AK47 Is actually pretty lights.

    • @thedude5449
      @thedude5449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carbonbasedlifeform6693 an ak weighs close to 7.5 pounds.

  • @tarheelskk
    @tarheelskk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video skall, very interesting!

  • @petrdavid7434
    @petrdavid7434 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really missed this kind of videos. Hope you can find some more weapons to review like this :)

  • @jetkill05
    @jetkill05 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    have you ever reviewed A Knight's Tale's fight choreography? Maybe even the jousting? I'm not sure if you have any knowledge of the sport, though.

  • @fsmoura
    @fsmoura 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    _"why the heck is this thing so short and stubby?"_
    thats what she said

  • @drutarthesavage5156
    @drutarthesavage5156 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! I've been waiting for years for you to cover this sword! Thank you Skall! By the way I never tought you actually like this weapon.

  • @jamesback8024
    @jamesback8024 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agree on all points.
    SOMEONE Needs to produce your version. I would buy it sooo fast.

  • @Crayfish
    @Crayfish 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i feel blue balled by the abrupt ending, you need to ramble a bit more :P

  • @Abyssal_Dreamer
    @Abyssal_Dreamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Skallagrim: It's too heavy for it's size.
    Conan: I'm strong! Heavy blade means heavy punch! If i wanted a lighter punch I just punch!
    Skallagrim: A lot more exhausting to use and it would... feel clumsy.
    Conan: I'm a great warrior! I'm not clumsy! you're clumsy and puny with your light swords!
    Skallagrim: It's short! it's too short for it's wheight!
    Conan: I'm a great warrior! I'm no afraid of getting closer! And when I go closer, you go dead.
    Skallagrim: ... Right.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Accurate depiction of the alleged conversation between the two.

  • @TriaMaxwell
    @TriaMaxwell 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    YAY! Been so long since we had one of these.

  • @Sir_Arlin
    @Sir_Arlin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    totally agree I always thought it was unusually short and it always looked heavy to me!

  • @chadthundercock8091
    @chadthundercock8091 7 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Wait, so if I take an empty pommel and fit another pommel inside it, will it be a double pommel or pommel^2 ? It's important to my research on pommels as potential alternative to antimatter as a fuel.

    • @castoli44
      @castoli44 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      antimatter fuel would end the use of fossil fuels rightly

    • @Folbak
      @Folbak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dick Kick'em double pommel

    • @Earthium
      @Earthium 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Double pommel.

    • @chadthundercock8091
      @chadthundercock8091 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Mr Teepawt Nah, I don't do cooking anymore, my girlfriend does it for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what if you cascade pommels? or put two pommels side to side at the end of the handle? do you have two pommels or just a technically still one but weireder pommel?

  • @nilsharms7159
    @nilsharms7159 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    WOW no crossguard lengthening?? really? im quite surprised you critizise this so often @Skallagrim

    • @anthonythomas8079
      @anthonythomas8079 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not much point when there is the guard on the blade to hold the sword similar to SOME great swords ( i.e www.coldsteel.com/two-handed-great-sword.html ).

  • @Rokkiteer
    @Rokkiteer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your logical arguements. It's almost soothing to listen to a reasonable man.

  • @richardhasledine7089
    @richardhasledine7089 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video. Darksword Armoury do a pretty amazing version of the weapon in this video, with their own flare and style. Its called the The Warmonger Barbarian Sword. Its probably their most costly weapon outside the Elite Series, but I personally own one and its very cool. Its even got a longer blade, making it more in line with a longsword.

  • @HellishSpoon
    @HellishSpoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    EXTRA THICC sword.

    • @TheMan-je5xq
      @TheMan-je5xq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HELL SPOON 30 minutes or it comes with a free extra pommel?! Excellent!! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

  • @DingoAteMeBaby
    @DingoAteMeBaby 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    funny enough, the skyrim mod that added conans weapons into the game had a choice to make it longer and more realistic.

  • @XHirntotx
    @XHirntotx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you make that into a series?
    Taking fantasy swords and make them practical is definately something I would like to see more often.

  • @Ivanhoe52
    @Ivanhoe52 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 'Conan the barbarian',it has perfect proportions. They messed with it in the 'Conan the destroyer', just a tad, and it already looked... well, not as good. (they did put longer blade, and longer grip. And widher ricasso with hooks on the end sticking out of langets toward the front end. Leather wrap on the grip, and the guard and pommel didn't look like nice dark old bronze, but more like bright gold.) My opinion is, the blade is thick like that, to get a nice deep fuller, and those beautifull deep hierogliph engrawings.
    By the way, Conan found it in a tomb of a atlantean general, which was a giant (cca 10 feet tall) compared to later race - humans. So it is reasonable to presume that for him, it would be a one-handed sword.
    But that's just my humble opinion.
    Greetings from Croatia

  • @tavernburner3066
    @tavernburner3066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    2:24 a counter weight ha! What a ridiculous Idea. Obviously it's their so that you can end your opponent rightly!
    on the slightly more serious side does having a hollow pommel reduce ones ability to mordhau ?

    • @breaden4381
      @breaden4381 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hit with the cross guard I suppose. Just hope the smith didn't make that hollow as well. And besides, a pommel is still a pommel, and you can throw them in Mordhau.

    • @thelividdeads
      @thelividdeads 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To answer, Not fully. If it's good metal the Pommel's shape and thickness will still allow it to preform it's function.
      If it's bad metal you may just fuck up your pommel... or your entire sword. given bad metal often doesn't hold up well in a fight.

    • @breaden4381
      @breaden4381 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Livid Dead Bad metal also sounds like shit.

    • @cobraglatiator
      @cobraglatiator 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "bad metal" sounds like a highschool metalcore band.

    • @tavernburner3066
      @tavernburner3066 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Livid Dead thanks.

  • @SuperLexxe
    @SuperLexxe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Doesn't Conan fight monsters n' shit? Would it be that the sword is bulky/heavy for more power? While an IRL Greatsword would be against humans, with more reach for more techniques etc when facing humans?

    • @kouriichi
      @kouriichi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, with its weight it would essentially be a crushing weapon on top of a slashing one. And its short size allows really accurate thrusts, which is important for hitting weak spots in a creatures hide.
      Its not the best design for a weapon, but given the universe where monsters are almost as common as people, you need specialized weapons.

    • @SKy_the_Thunder
      @SKy_the_Thunder 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Especially against monsters you'd want to have more reach. Plus a longer blade gives you a bigger force of impact because in the same swing the tip of the sword will move faster than that of a smaller one.

    • @Leo-pw3kf
      @Leo-pw3kf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Conan does PVE, not PVP

    • @zancloufer
      @zancloufer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While that makes sense to make a heavier weapon to fight tougher enemies, it's the distribution of weight that is the problem. A heavy blade isn't bad, but when more than 50% of the weight is in the half closest to you it would make the blade harder to swing. If the false edge was uncovered and on the other side of the sword (Like Fire Emblem's Armour Slayer sword) it might work that way, but not the way it is currently balanced.

    • @Skallagrim
      @Skallagrim  7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Monsters? => Axe / hammer / spiked mace
      A sword is not supposed to be a bludgeon, that is contrary to its design. Also, if it's too heavy it limits the velocity of the strike, which in turn lowers the kinetic energy that can be generated. Velocity increases the energy at a faster rate than mass does.

  • @MrVladDubrovski
    @MrVladDubrovski 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work! Would love to see more of this "Fantasy in real life" content!

  • @faenrir11
    @faenrir11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    wish the sword was cheaper so that you could test it :P

  • @rgenherehjartablo1742
    @rgenherehjartablo1742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    If you want to make the sword better, you must make the pommel able to unscrew.

    • @ColdNorth0628
      @ColdNorth0628 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      SavageHjerte - ᚱᚨᚷᚾᚨᚱ make sword secretly have a sling to throw your pommel farther.

    • @TheNightOwl11683
      @TheNightOwl11683 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      carlos conde Hidden sling inside the handle..... That's brilliant!!

    • @brianp6859
      @brianp6859 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So that you might end him rightly!!

    • @brianelkins8604
      @brianelkins8604 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "With face in Palm I say" I must now kill yoy. I know you are joking, it's all fun and games till I start to cry and people start to die. I'm sorry, but a threaded pommel killed my family and my dog. Raped brother and burned down my gazebo. I have dedicated my life to destroying any evidence of the concept of a threaded pommel. I shall make the world as though they had never been. I mean who the fuck has the skill set to temper a blade yet can't manage a kindergarten lvl technique like hot peining a god damn tang so. I don't understand how guy like the man at arms guys justify this shit. They shall drowned in lakes of blood now they will know why they fear the night

    • @_XR40_
      @_XR40_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, historical swords seldom had pommels that could be unscrewed. That would be a mark of a cheap, unreliable sword.

  • @AnnalOfHistory
    @AnnalOfHistory 7 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    You make it better by giving the sword a detachable pommel of course.

    • @buttsufancypantsu1644
      @buttsufancypantsu1644 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That can't be
      Right.

    • @MaartenvanRossemLezingen
      @MaartenvanRossemLezingen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Better yet, reforge the steel and make a bunch of pommels instead of a sword.

    • @MrAliquam
      @MrAliquam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh, fuck you, I wanted to write that...
      On the other hand - I'm glad I didn't... an overused joke by this point.

    • @padalan2504
      @padalan2504 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, it's close to becoming cancer. We need more medieval jokes

    • @poiuytrewq11422
      @poiuytrewq11422 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pada LAN
      A peasant walked over to his friend. The peasant says "I just turned 20 years old!". His friend would look at him and say "So what should I wear for the funeral?".

  • @nesano4735
    @nesano4735 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another video that we''d love to see.

  • @nealsterling8151
    @nealsterling8151 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice!
    Seeing Conan (Arnie) with a huge 2 handed sword is quite a view!

  • @jordanbonacci5725
    @jordanbonacci5725 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't let the shortness of the blade distract from the fact that Skall literally has the best hair in the HEMA community. It's luscious. It's rich. You just don't see hair like that nowadays.

  • @paquimex
    @paquimex 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SUPER THICC PUMMEL

  • @TheMultiGunMan
    @TheMultiGunMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video my man!

  • @123bigmam
    @123bigmam 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like that you use different units, like Kg and lbs.

  • @Kriscor01
    @Kriscor01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    but arnold is a bodybuilder...

    • @sherrigofdenmark2823
      @sherrigofdenmark2823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A lighter sword would be even deadlier in the hands of a strong man than a very heavy one.

    • @ColdNorth0628
      @ColdNorth0628 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sherrig Ofdenmark what if the sword is too big to be called a sword, too thick, and too heavy.

    • @sherrigofdenmark2823
      @sherrigofdenmark2823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be a club I guess, If it has the right proportions to classify as a sword but was simply larger then it would still be considered a sword but if it was made for a human then it would just be a very stupid sword.

    • @omarabe26
      @omarabe26 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Elrozzo Seicentoquattordici So Guts has an excuse for weilding the Dragonslayer but Conan doesn't for weilding Atlantean?!

    • @omarabe26
      @omarabe26 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ComradeStirner Exactly, the Atlantean sounds normal compared to the Dragonslayer.

  • @stevendee2831
    @stevendee2831 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the topic here. balance is definitely key.

  • @tafellappen8551
    @tafellappen8551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    im actually reeeally interested now to see an analysis of Jet's swords from ATLA

  • @williambernkastel4821
    @williambernkastel4821 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one thing I have always liked to see Skallagrim talking about is trick weapons from Bloodborne. It would be pretty interestig because how crazy some of the weapons are.

  • @mattnobrega6621
    @mattnobrega6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own that sword and also Conan's fathers sword. Got them both from a good sword company out of toledo Spain. It's classed as a functional sword. Together, they cost a little over $1,000 plus s&h and taxes and all that jazz. They both are nice.

  • @johnsteiner3417
    @johnsteiner3417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grew up idolizing this sword, more than the character this sword was the cornerstone of fantasy when I was a kid. The early 2000's Conan movie failed in my mind for the absence of this sword above all else.

  • @simonregan471
    @simonregan471 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth noting the 'Conan the Adventurer' cartoon adapted the basic design of the Atlantean sword, making it longer and giving it a wider guard with upswept horns. The distinctive strips along the ricasso were kept but shortened to the point of being decorative only.

  • @RedZenGaming
    @RedZenGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol, I can just imagine Conan screaming in Arnold voice "Gah! It' was made for mighty barbarians!"

  • @airahfuji
    @airahfuji 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new here.. and watched vids from 2014 up till this one.. a marathon really! and I noticed something eerily similar with every single one of them..
    The pommel seems to be going strong.

  • @TheHonoredMadman
    @TheHonoredMadman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just rewatched this classic on netflix and was thinking a video about the various swords and weapons in it would be interesting. I was particularly partial to the sword of the archer subotai, but also valerias sword too, theres also alot of stuff like that hammer thorgrim uses that would be hilarious to here your take on.

  • @adamm5087
    @adamm5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jody Samson
    Artist who created this sword for the movie. He deserves the credit for creating this sword. Great job Jody, one of my favorites too.

    • @diequietschbeus8181
      @diequietschbeus8181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Ron Cobb designed the Sword. Samson "only" forged it.

  • @darkempire37
    @darkempire37 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool video , I love the look of this sword as well .

  • @zeframmann1641
    @zeframmann1641 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the video. The thing most people don't notice though, is the SIZE of the skeleton Conan takes the sword from. It's taller than Ahnuld SITTING DOWN!
    Conan's sword was likely just like a giant's version of a Roman short-sword made for close-range heavy chopping. But like Frodo with the Elven dagger Sting, it looks like a full-sized blade in his hands.

  • @SebNaw
    @SebNaw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good old video mate, thank you.

  • @JediSamson
    @JediSamson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was definitely a great video, ad honestly, I've been waiting for you to take a look at the Atlantean sword as well but...forgive me for my imprudence here, Skall -- I am actually still interested in hearing your final word on arming sword/bastard sword/longsword when used with a shield (we'll say a Teutonic Templar Kite shield) because I am an aspiring student of swordsmanship and I DO want to learn HEMA however...I want to learn how to use either a bastard sword or (ideally) a Longsword, alongside a shield.

  • @michaelcheal373
    @michaelcheal373 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE THIS GUYS REFERENCES !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Demoon555666
    @Demoon555666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the Atlantean sword, made from Marto Toledo , the official company that made the original. It's an amazing piece but definitely has its disadvantages as a weapon.

  • @suntzu8244
    @suntzu8244 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids. I need to point out though that this was pre B.C. in fact infancy of steel wielding. It's proper for the time and probably advanced for the explained time. Thanks.

  • @tatehammontree2636
    @tatehammontree2636 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once upon a time, I bought the cheapo replica of this sword. It had a lot of issues, namely it was made of stainless and incredibly "top heavy" with the blade. The handle and pommel were hollow and had no weight to them, and the handle was very lightweight as well. Second, of course it had a rat tail tang. I'm glad I learned what that was before I hit anything with it and had the blade snap off the handle. All in all, it was really just made to look pretty and hang on a wall.

  • @Hauptseite
    @Hauptseite 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see Skallagrim analyze the weaponry of the Predator. That should be pretty fun.

  • @LaughingOwlKiller
    @LaughingOwlKiller 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same conclusions Matt Easton had. I too always loved the Atlantean sword..it and He-Man's sword of Power is what lead me down the path of weaponry.

  • @eddiemaiden2012
    @eddiemaiden2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome review

  • @Psychogati
    @Psychogati 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to own one of Albion's reproductions. The weight is such that when swinging single handedly, it was impossible for me to stop the thing.
    Two handed use was manageable but my arms would burn the crap out of me real quick.
    As for the size, the version from the second movie does have a somewhat longer handle, but not that much. Also, its ricasso is widened.

  • @randywoodworth5990
    @randywoodworth5990 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sword made at the beginning has always been my favorite.

  • @cruz68
    @cruz68 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with you Skallagrim.

  • @MrBigboy3178
    @MrBigboy3178 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @cheapthought9200
    @cheapthought9200 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content, and glad to see another fantasy weapon being scrutinized, always was my fav.
    For fun, id love to see you tear those weapons from the anime Bleach a new one, or, since i kno eastern weapons arnt your thing, maybe the Soul caliber video game series.

  • @brianmcwhorter2867
    @brianmcwhorter2867 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has always been my favorite movie sword.

  • @FallenHarts
    @FallenHarts 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skall, how do you personally sharpen your daily carry knives? I've been interested after watching your small knife reviews and hearing you discuss sharpness.

  • @jthewelshwarlord6331
    @jthewelshwarlord6331 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the look of that gallowglass when put up by Conan's sword.

  • @FabledHeroes3351
    @FabledHeroes3351 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna see Man At Arms make your version of Conans blade now

  • @kevinbonet7783
    @kevinbonet7783 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:41 is the answer to the question asked in the title. also, it looked so badass i immediately clicked like after seeing it