Reminds me when my last therapist introduced me to the concept of Radical Acceptance. It's like, you can have parts of your life that you aren't satisfied with and want to change and you absolutely should work on changing them if/when you can. But in the meantime you can accept the reality of your situation for what it is rather than constantly railing against it knowing that it won't last forever. Struggle is mandatory, suffering is optional.
I once applied to be a bank teller for PNC about nine years ago. Told me they pay 9 bucks an hour and required a MINIMUM of one year cash handling experience. 9 bucks an hour + required experience for a job where I am responsible for people's finances, and can potentially get robbed at gunpoint? Eight years before that, I was getting paid $7.15 to work at McDonalds. I'm good. The audacity of the employers to offer slave wages and crappy benefits for jobs that require experience, awful shifts, and possible hazards amazes me.
@@zephyrwayfarer I am guessing the implication was that he 'wussed' out of the bad paying job? You arent going to get your answer, it is obvious it is a bad joke/insult that fell flat on its face.
love how the talk went from a different type of "this is the reality". From enjoying (or not) a proccess to the house market, and then the UK Driving Atlas vs GPS.
Didn't know I needed to hear this, thank you for the motivation Josh! Been really struggling with doing the work I know should be doing because I'm scared all my effort will go to nothing. But I'll never get where I need to be unless I embrace the suck.
What got me over the whole, have to do crap jobs or crappy things sometimes to get to what you want and enjoy, was reading the subtle art of not giving a fuck. Sometimes you have to accept where you are is shit, and that’s ok.
This vid reminded me of how I'll be seeing people try to get into fighting games and then they give up cuz they give up because they don't wanna learn. I feel like there's nothing more satisfying than putting time into training mode and grinding up in ranked, especially if you've got a friend to run matches with, and seeing your skills advance over time
So you have the jobs that have an interesting part to it, but are terrible in every other aspect, and then you have job that are just terrible in every aspect.
I love my dad and my dad loves me but the number of times he's told me I just need to "hit the pavement" and "go into businesses to show them I exist and I'm interested" is high.
The "just go there and ask them" thing is so true. Every once in a while my mom will go "I just don't understand why you don't just go and talk to the lady that owns it (the shop near me I've applied to)", and I've tried to explain that that just isn't how it works, and like if they don't take me from the online application I've sent then they wouldn't take me just because I came and asked in person. Last time she said "yeah but that application is on a corporate level and not for that shop" and I again had to explain that, no, the application _is_ for that individual shop, and the only thing corporate has to do with it is that I gave them permission to give my CV to any nearby shops that might be in need of someone. At this point I've just given up so when she brings it up I will just find a way to steer the conversation away from it immediately
I think it comes down to the question of "Are you enjoying the process OR is the end result worth doing it even if you don't enjoy the process?" Because if you aren't all that invested in the end result, then there's no point in enduring something you don't enjoy in itself just to get there. Like, if someone is passionate about acting, the bad times between jobs are worth enduring because you really live for those food moments when you do get to be in a production. But if you are, for example, only becoming a lawyer because your family wants you to, not because you yourself like even ANY part of the job, then is the harsh path through law school even worth it? Especially with videogames, I find that people often do content just because it exists. They don't care about what they get in the end and they don't enjoy the things they have to do to get it. And I think it's important to self-evaluate and make more concious decisions about what to put effort into.
I worked on IT for more than 15 years now, servers and network structure, and I have a paper map in my car. I have a printed map because I know that there is no small chance that when I needed the most technology can fail me.
You trust paper?! I've memorized constellations, sun and moon positions throughout the year so I can guide myself when you deluted paper apologists crash and burn. Also I've carved in my house's wall a map of whole US
@@jassao On a more serious note, keeping in your mind roughly how to get to the last petrol station you passed is a good idea on a long trip. Better still, keep a note of where each one is and how far apart they are. Have it written down somewhere. Even excluding getting lost, it's just generally not a bad practice to know where you need to go if something happens with your car and, say, your phone is dead.
As someone who has had to interview candidates for vacancies in the team, for a relatively small company, I love the idea of someone walking up to me and handing me their CV on a printed out bit of paper. My industry is fairly fast paced (what isn't these days?) so we need to be on the ball. That paper is going straight in the bin. Why? Because a tonne of other people submitted their CVs by email and I do not need one random drifting bit of A4 in my draws or on my desk or whatever, lurking around in the hopes that it gets remembered. It won't. I can't search for that CV and have a handy list of relevant emails with attachments that take ten seconds to do. Your printed CV vs the dozens of others I can access at the click of a button - which is more efficient? A printed CV literally just makes my life more inconvenient until I want to print that CV myself.
Sadly I have way less goals that I want to achieve, in comparison to things I don't want to do. There were times in which I really "grinded to get there". But now it feels kind of pointless to do again. And I'm only 27. Like wtf why can't I find real interests in the world.
You know, if i could have heard this like 14 years ago, I would have been a better student in college or worked towards my dream career. I know it isn't too late. It's the fact that now I gotta break the habit I formed. Either way, i appreciate the philosophical videos you put out recently
9:40 This is literally how I got my current job. Im a streetbuilder, one day after being over it with the company i was with at the time, on my way home i drove passed a construction company office (one of the largest in the state) I walked into the office still in my work clothes and boots and asked at the front desk if theyre looking for streetbuilders. The lady looked at me pretty weirdly but asked me to wait. About 5 minutes later a gentlemen escorted me through a hall into a meeting room with a computer and projector and we had a very pleasant conversation about what the company was about, and not only what I had to offer to the company but what the company had to offer me. 2 days later after a call with that gentleman i go back in, now meeting with the owner of the company, and within about 15 minutes of going over my CV and qualifications and experience, I had a job. It was literally that easy.
Im going to just ay how I feel before watching. First is I feel there is good grind and bad. Good grinding makes you feel the improvement and is fun to do. Bad grind is not fun, and you dont feel like it's worth the grind.
10:28 My stepdad did that boomer thing, he left school when he was 15 and got a job putting together lamps at a Swedish factory. Think this was back in the 70s when you could still just walk to a company and get hired the same day. Something that's pretty much impossible to do since they require years of experience and university degrees to even be considered employment.
only thing I disagree with here, is that I LOVE waking up and going to the gym. In fact, the only times I do not love going to the gym is when I'm hit with my seasonal depression. In which case I just kinda hate doing anything that doesn't involve laying in bed for 16 hours.
Oh I am the same, I don't get why people call the gym a "grind", it is fun too me! I always make sure my workouts aren't boring, but I also do other activities because gym only would bore me. I hope you get your seasonal deppresion sorted though, it sounds heavy :( Cheers! :)
Just sucks if you're in a rough patch in life. When even doing stuff you like becomes a big task, doing stuff you don't like to get to the good stuff just doesn't work.
I think this should be caveated with that you shouldn't submit yourself to any/every process and that not all goals are worth it. Work hard even if you're not enjoying yourself but don't become a husk of a person endlessly on their grindset that doesn't enjoy their life.
I've always wondered how content creators rely on hired editors to make videos for them. How can they possibly know what to put emphasis on in terms of highlights of humer or a serious point? I feel like there would be too much disconnect between the content creators vision and the editors.
I'm about to go through Job Hunting again here soon, boy am I not looking forward too it. Keen, hardworking, Friendly... can I sit through an Interview without shaking like a leaf and fumbling my words through existential social anxiety? Absolutely not.
The boomer point about the coffees and avocado toast is hyperbole, at least how I understand it. Nobody really believes spending no money on your morning takeaway coffee will get you a house. It's more directed at the young people who recklessly spend money on luxuries instead of saving for a home. I have seen many friends over the years who can barely afford saving a deposit on top of rent and other living expenses and complain to me endlessly. Yet will impulsively spend hundreds on alcohol when going out at least once a month or drop another hundy on a new videogame deluxe edition.
11:30 You are being sarcastic, but in more than one occasion GPS decided, that turning right on the intersection and then straight to my home is not the best option and suggested going left and around the city. Do yeah, maybe trust military grade technology - I am pretty sure soldiers will not, but that besides the point - but don't be afraid to double check it sometimes.
Speaking of walking into shops/companies with a CV... it *does* work. I've done it, my friends have done it, my missis has done it. You'd be surprised, but some places put you above all the online dorks just because you showed up in person and made a good impression 👍 (obviously doesn't work if you haven't showered or seen another human in the last 5 years, but that's beside the point)
Taxing and menial jobs are a problem now? Those were called entry level jobs for decades. The other option is to get back in the coal mine, dig some ditches by hand, maybe shine some shoes in the subway station. Operate some textile looms or something. There is a drought of entry level jobs for teenagers and young people in general, and the cost of school keeps going up because everybody thinks a degree will get them a better job, but when everybody has a university degree, it just devalues the degree. Bachelor of literally anything to get a job in an office mail room. Enjoy.
I'm not a boomer but the amount of people I know who spend $30-40 on door dash for $15 of restaurant food and $5 of home cooked food is to much. That said after covid food is like 2x the price and interest rates are almost 40% so I understand why no one give a shit.
"As much as I hate crap mobile games, I have to respect the fact that somebody has to make them". Are you sure about that Josh? Are you *really sure* that crap mobile games need to be made. :|
So I’m of mind that online mmo’s don’t need every aspect of something to be fun. Sometimes you need to spend 20+ hours grinding for something, RuneScape for example you’ll spend hundreds of hours over the span of years doing things you don’t enjoy to make things you enjoy more enjoyable.
Only boomer moment is his cope with rationalizing no editor hiring. Lol the linchpin in your argument is simply taking timestamps… if you did that the scenario you described is moot lol. You even mentioned you dont take timestamps-- looks like the easiest change ever, and you could free up all that editing time to further your own ambitions. Plus you creat a job for another human to progress themselves. I think hiring an editor is just a good mext step in your channel. But much respect to how you hone your craft! 🫡 food for thought!
Big mountaineer here. Can confirm that I am consistently in 'I don't wanna be here mode' going up the mountain, but when you get to the top it feels awesome. Then when I come down I'm just like 'can I get to my car any faster.'
the thing is, climbing a mountain is 10000000000x better than going to some retail job, having to hear bs from coworkers, take shit from bosses and customers, and then you don't even feel good when the paycheck comes in.
@@robert7100 Well that is because you dont want to be there and beeing there does not take you further to your actual goal. It only steals energy and time so it is logical that it is 100000000x worse.
For physical activities with set finish lines, the analogy is great. Unfortunately it seems like a lot of people who have more career-oriented or life event-oriented goals, especially over long stretches of time, they often don't feel much at the peak of their mountains. And then they start looking towards the next peak and hope that next time, next time they'll feel something. I'm not sure what the special sauce is, for getting a "sense of pride and accomplishment", but far from all difficult and monotonous activities will lead there. Maybe the immediate lead-up needs to be something extremely challenging or complicated or persistently time-consuming.
@@Hotshot2k4 I agree with this. I read something about the word patience having two meanings. The first one lines up with the mountain peak analogy, it takes time and effort but after a certain number of steps it will happen. Same as high school or university, you have to put in the effort and do the right, slowly the days turn into years but eventually its done. The second meaning is more like the job promotion. You put in the hard work and do all the right things, but you have no idea when or if it will actually pay off. Because they don't have to promote you in 1 year, or 5 years or ever really. But you still need the patience to work hard and do the right things. I feel like the second meaning of patience is harder but probably more important to life after school. Careers and love don't really have easy to measure progress. I don't know anyone who doesn't feel the "doing the right thing but still waiting" burnout.
@@Hotshot2k4 Me doing art: "Oh, I can finally draw a hand... now I just need to learn all the other parts in the body, next Light, next composition, next... and so on" until you can actually draw something that you actually envisioned in your head. Well, I suppose you need to find that peak in every single step, but It's just hard not to get discouraged when you think of the bigger picture, that bigger picture you realize is even bigger the more you feel like getting closer, you need to arrive to the point where you are fully aware that the grind will probably never end, and still choose to do it because is worth it, that's probably where you break trought. Nah, I don't mean to discourage anyone, we need to keep doing it anyway, it's okay to vent sometimes, I just wish I could started my journey when I was younger and didn't care for the "End goal", just doing art for fun, though I don't even know if I could keep going even then, I've always been too self-aware. Nowdays I look at the kids at the workshop I assist and I just love how they joyfully make what they can, with what they have, while having fun. Kids really are like a mirror for your past self.
But see Hockey1973, if you skip the coffe AND the avocado toast AND you account for inflation you can have the down payment in only 15 years, instead of 10!
Ah man, I remember learning that 30 years ago my parents house costed 50.000 euro (equivalent) and is worth today 350.000 euro. Happily, my parents are under no illusion that this was something like "Oh, we worked hard!" and they are outraged by the housing prices today, the pay for jobs failing to even keep pace with inflation while basically every necessity price has gone up by 30% in four years. My parents opinion is basically "So yeah, our generation really did a number on the world and I don't envy what is coming after..." But hey, I don't blame them. They fought the system as much as they could, and they still do.
The issue was millennials didn't do anything except make things worse hollering on climate change and other expensive issues with no concept of how economics costs lives.
As a uni student who has been looking for a tech internship for the past two years with no success, I can confirm that the process of looking for a job sucks.
I fletched 2,000 maple shortbows to fletch 2,000 maple longbows to fletch 3,000 yew shortbows to fletch 10,000 yew longbows to fletch 1 Magic Shortbow. The pride I have in my little bow is impossible to overstate.
10:15 I had the same experience. It's like getting a weight off your shoulders. As much as people hate the idea of "I suffered therefore you should too", modern job hunting is something everyone should experience before complaining to anyone for not having a job.
On the other side of the coin for this conversation, I am a person who pursued the job he thought he wanted to do, went to college for it, got several jobs doing it, and *hated every second of it*. I'm in my late 30s and all of the effort I put into my career is a waste because I find the job so discouraging and unpalatable that I'll never get a job in that industry again. You can't know what you don't know, but don't let that discourage you from trying to find a job you like doing. I now have a job I enjoy, but I make a quarter of the money I did previously. I chose the general happiness of my everyday life over my paycheck.
A successful music producer I follow was one asked what his process was for making good music and being so successful. His answer was "Just do" he went on to explain that a lot of what he writes is shit but the small amazing bits that creep through show up in the finished product. Gotta accept the uninspiring moments and keep trying to reach the accomplished payouts
There is a misconception that maximizing joy leads to happiness. Its not true. Whats more fun, 1h of exercise or 1h of watching youtube? TH-cam is more fun but you are happier after 1h of exercise.
@@Qamikace You can always change your perspective so you realize your actions create value for you and the people around you. instead of "i have to do the dishes" it is "I want to create an environment where dishes are always clean and available". Its a very simple example but you get the idea. I helps having a job that contributes towards society or your goals in any way. unless you are a scammer or something unethical, there are people counting on you that youre job is done correctly.
I think the issue with people giving up too easily and struggling to accept discomfort might at least in part come from not having had support to feel comfortable in that. At least that was the case for me. Im still learning now that i have that support i need but it should be noted that very frequently people who can't handle that sort of thing aren't taking that view out of pure laziness or pleasure seeking.
This, absolutely. I believe in discomfort lies the key to personal growth. And conversely I also believe the search for all encompassing comfort will eventually lead to personal stagnation or even regression. However as a human being you need to get over that initial bump when you challenge yourself. For example the fear of failing, letting yourself or others down. Or the fear of the unknown. There are more fears like that, most imagined and only few real, that hold us back. But in that discomfort grows the seed of our learning experience. You just need to pick out the bits that have healthy influence on your personal growth. I hope that through personal experience you now understand the search for personal growth is always worth it, no matter the discomfort. :)
Literally this tho. I'm in gamedev and every few months I get the project I work on changed. The one I've loved the most? Making weapons. But I've been in shithole metaverse & NFT projects, I've been in handpainted projects that I'd usually adore but they're shitty props with choking estimates. Rn I'm in the process of getting into a mobile company. I still do what I overall like, which is 3D modelling. If I can lower the pace at which I grind, I might just have energy at the end of the day to do personal projects of things I actually wanna do.
This is good advice. A good work ethic does not mean loving what you do at all times. A good work ethic means you push through the mundane and work hard even when it is tough.
that is what you learn in school. it isn't about the topics... it is about learning to force yourself to time management and do the crappy homework. those who struggle the most will be able to do and achieve more in the adult real world. those who cut corners and never did the grind ... they never learned the traits needed to survive in the real world. and as you get older it becomes more difficult to learn/unlearn traits. also people really need to re-learn that you can't have good things in life if you're not willing to do the bad boring things to earn it.
10:29 Oh lord. Speaking as a life-long antique dealer, a year old listing (or any active buy-it-now listing) is barely going to be relevant in the current market, let alone 20+ year old reference books. The market for most niche collecting areas have been cut to a single digit percentage of what they were 10-20 years ago. And that's not even considering that so many collectors/dealers are out of business or dead, there's almost no market for any middle of the road to low end pieces. The top 1% will always sell, anything else will be a struggle. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Modern Warfare Zombies. A Call of Duty game that's $70 and has a PvE only Zombies mode similar to the free to play DMZ mode as part of that $70 deal. . People who've gotten EVERYTHING done are already bored, because typical $70 AAA game moment. I genuinely enjoy the mode and HOW do I make the grind enjoyable? I just take my time with it. I haven't played for the entirety of Season 2 of MW3, until maybe 2 weeks ago and I JUST finished the BP but also got the entirety of the story missions up to Act 4 done. All I did was take breaks and go at it on my own time and at my own pace. EDIT: I just realized this is about job grind. Shit, idk, I'm mentally broken now due to my previous job and physically can't go outside for more than 2 hours, otherwise I'll have a panic attack which causes me to hyperventilate. All I do now is just work on my models and animations to make a game.
"you play games all day and talk into a camera, thats why you have no house. I swam trough shark infested water to school, 30km every day, twice and worked 20 hours after school in a coal mine. Youre just lazy. Oh and i bought my 500 squaremeter house with 50 acres of land for 3 apples and a handshake. Why i dont have grandchilds? I want grandchilds. Why do you dont have kids? Youre selfish" "because i have no house where they can live mum\dad"
The key is to find aomething where theres a chance itll pay off and you can see results. It sucks just struggling *if* you get nothing in return, which sadly occurs a lot because of exploitation or incompetence. This is where having an actual audience or knowing what the fuck youre actually doing is so important.
Pain is intrinsically understood to be good when it is willingly taken on to achieve something you both want and believe is possible. A lack of hope or feelings of powerlessness is what causes people to pay more attention to the things they dislike. I find that the advice of "Understand pain is part of the game" is somewhat irrelevant compared to the issues people face for that to even be a concern in the first place.
16 views in 2 minutes brother fell off
its 10am on a tuesday sir
F in the chat boys. There is no coming back from this...
For a second I had to check I wasn't in Destiny's comments section. 😂
@@bobbysauer7826 It's also a time in everywhere else.
@@bobbysauer7826it's currently 2pm in England and 3pm for me sir
Reminds me when my last therapist introduced me to the concept of Radical Acceptance. It's like, you can have parts of your life that you aren't satisfied with and want to change and you absolutely should work on changing them if/when you can. But in the meantime you can accept the reality of your situation for what it is rather than constantly railing against it knowing that it won't last forever. Struggle is mandatory, suffering is optional.
"Struggle is mandatory, Suffering is optional" that should be on a shirt! Love that
I once applied to be a bank teller for PNC about nine years ago. Told me they pay 9 bucks an hour and required a MINIMUM of one year cash handling experience. 9 bucks an hour + required experience for a job where I am responsible for people's finances, and can potentially get robbed at gunpoint? Eight years before that, I was getting paid $7.15 to work at McDonalds. I'm good.
The audacity of the employers to offer slave wages and crappy benefits for jobs that require experience, awful shifts, and possible hazards amazes me.
Name checks out
@@chaosgyrobootlicker. 😂
To be fair, the McDonalds was probably more likely to be robbed than the bank.
@@chaosgyro I'm confused. Please explain to me how the name checks out?
@@zephyrwayfarer I am guessing the implication was that he 'wussed' out of the bad paying job? You arent going to get your answer, it is obvious it is a bad joke/insult that fell flat on its face.
im enjoying these insights into your brain, Josh. You're pretty cool.
Oh awesome, Marco is a fan of josh too! Your thoughts on music are great to hear, man
This is going straight into the Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon google doc
"You don't have to enjoy the whole process." That's how it be painting miniatures. The end result always pays off.
love how the talk went from a different type of "this is the reality".
From enjoying (or not) a proccess to the house market, and then the UK Driving Atlas vs GPS.
Didn't know I needed to hear this, thank you for the motivation Josh! Been really struggling with doing the work I know should be doing because I'm scared all my effort will go to nothing. But I'll never get where I need to be unless I embrace the suck.
"I not gonna say 'I told you so', but I will help you fill out the online CVs"
What a goddamn gent.
the cv rant hit me so hard on the point, i laughed, but it hurts how real it is.
What got me over the whole, have to do crap jobs or crappy things sometimes to get to what you want and enjoy, was reading the subtle art of not giving a fuck. Sometimes you have to accept where you are is shit, and that’s ok.
'Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy-ass weights.' - Ronnie Coleman
This vid reminded me of how I'll be seeing people try to get into fighting games and then they give up cuz they give up because they don't wanna learn.
I feel like there's nothing more satisfying than putting time into training mode and grinding up in ranked, especially if you've got a friend to run matches with, and seeing your skills advance over time
So you have the jobs that have an interesting part to it, but are terrible in every other aspect, and then you have job that are just terrible in every aspect.
"Reaching the good part" there is looking for a new job that you find enjoyable while working the current one
I love my dad and my dad loves me but the number of times he's told me I just need to "hit the pavement" and "go into businesses to show them I exist and I'm interested" is high.
The "just go there and ask them" thing is so true. Every once in a while my mom will go "I just don't understand why you don't just go and talk to the lady that owns it (the shop near me I've applied to)", and I've tried to explain that that just isn't how it works, and like if they don't take me from the online application I've sent then they wouldn't take me just because I came and asked in person. Last time she said "yeah but that application is on a corporate level and not for that shop" and I again had to explain that, no, the application _is_ for that individual shop, and the only thing corporate has to do with it is that I gave them permission to give my CV to any nearby shops that might be in need of someone.
At this point I've just given up so when she brings it up I will just find a way to steer the conversation away from it immediately
I think it comes down to the question of "Are you enjoying the process OR is the end result worth doing it even if you don't enjoy the process?"
Because if you aren't all that invested in the end result, then there's no point in enduring something you don't enjoy in itself just to get there.
Like, if someone is passionate about acting, the bad times between jobs are worth enduring because you really live for those food moments when you do get to be in a production. But if you are, for example, only becoming a lawyer because your family wants you to, not because you yourself like even ANY part of the job, then is the harsh path through law school even worth it?
Especially with videogames, I find that people often do content just because it exists. They don't care about what they get in the end and they don't enjoy the things they have to do to get it. And I think it's important to self-evaluate and make more concious decisions about what to put effort into.
My motto to life is "Things will get worse before they get better".
I worked on IT for more than 15 years now, servers and network structure, and I have a paper map in my car. I have a printed map because I know that there is no small chance that when I needed the most technology can fail me.
You trust paper?! I've memorized constellations, sun and moon positions throughout the year so I can guide myself when you deluted paper apologists crash and burn. Also I've carved in my house's wall a map of whole US
@@jassao On a more serious note, keeping in your mind roughly how to get to the last petrol station you passed is a good idea on a long trip. Better still, keep a note of where each one is and how far apart they are. Have it written down somewhere. Even excluding getting lost, it's just generally not a bad practice to know where you need to go if something happens with your car and, say, your phone is dead.
@@jassaoJokes on you, I carry an astrolabe as backup
The better you know technology, the less you trust it. There's a reason the people most familiar with tech don't have fancy "smart homes"!
As someone who has had to interview candidates for vacancies in the team, for a relatively small company, I love the idea of someone walking up to me and handing me their CV on a printed out bit of paper. My industry is fairly fast paced (what isn't these days?) so we need to be on the ball.
That paper is going straight in the bin. Why? Because a tonne of other people submitted their CVs by email and I do not need one random drifting bit of A4 in my draws or on my desk or whatever, lurking around in the hopes that it gets remembered. It won't. I can't search for that CV and have a handy list of relevant emails with attachments that take ten seconds to do. Your printed CV vs the dozens of others I can access at the click of a button - which is more efficient?
A printed CV literally just makes my life more inconvenient until I want to print that CV myself.
Sadly I have way less goals that I want to achieve, in comparison to things I don't want to do. There were times in which I really "grinded to get there". But now it feels kind of pointless to do again. And I'm only 27. Like wtf why can't I find real interests in the world.
"We're very lucky that nothing has been built in the UK since 1996"
Not a single house
You know, if i could have heard this like 14 years ago, I would have been a better student in college or worked towards my dream career. I know it isn't too late. It's the fact that now I gotta break the habit I formed. Either way, i appreciate the philosophical videos you put out recently
9:40
This is literally how I got my current job. Im a streetbuilder, one day after being over it with the company i was with at the time, on my way home i drove passed a construction company office (one of the largest in the state) I walked into the office still in my work clothes and boots and asked at the front desk if theyre looking for streetbuilders. The lady looked at me pretty weirdly but asked me to wait.
About 5 minutes later a gentlemen escorted me through a hall into a meeting room with a computer and projector and we had a very pleasant conversation about what the company was about, and not only what I had to offer to the company but what the company had to offer me.
2 days later after a call with that gentleman i go back in, now meeting with the owner of the company, and within about 15 minutes of going over my CV and qualifications and experience, I had a job. It was literally that easy.
Im going to just ay how I feel before watching. First is I feel there is good grind and bad. Good grinding makes you feel the improvement and is fun to do. Bad grind is not fun, and you dont feel like it's worth the grind.
It's about the mentality that goes with spending $5 on a coffee
Every job you do prepares you for the next one and you better be prepared when an opportunity comes, or the opportunity is gone.. thats life
5 POUNDS OF COFF- oh wait I'm American
As a fellow American, that threw me off as well.
Life is pain and suffering. Gotcha. Gotta choose the goals whose resulting pains you are willing to suffer.
Is this how i find out there will be a new series of Broadchurch?
So you just have to be someone who has the vibe of being someone who'll do well eventually. Cool, gotcha.
soo true. I would pay to see your perfect world add
10:28 My stepdad did that boomer thing, he left school when he was 15 and got a job putting together lamps at a Swedish factory. Think this was back in the 70s when you could still just walk to a company and get hired the same day. Something that's pretty much impossible to do since they require years of experience and university degrees to even be considered employment.
You say that but have you tried? University degrees are dropping off and many factories will just take you if you're young and fit.
Without the bad parts in an expirience you cannot enjoy the good parts.
only thing I disagree with here, is that I LOVE waking up and going to the gym. In fact, the only times I do not love going to the gym is when I'm hit with my seasonal depression. In which case I just kinda hate doing anything that doesn't involve laying in bed for 16 hours.
Oh I am the same, I don't get why people call the gym a "grind", it is fun too me! I always make sure my workouts aren't boring, but I also do other activities because gym only would bore me. I hope you get your seasonal deppresion sorted though, it sounds heavy :( Cheers! :)
I just quit everything that forces any form of grinding on me. Especially when I pay for a game and am forced to grind. Fuck all that noise.
Stoner here. Josh's advice is good, but remember, there's also always weed.
Don’t hire an editor Josh, I really like your videos and am willing to wait for the quality!
Be careful, doing something you love as an occupation will cause you to not enjoy it anymore.
Just sucks if you're in a rough patch in life. When even doing stuff you like becomes a big task, doing stuff you don't like to get to the good stuff just doesn't work.
Can anyone else hear people runing upstairs?
I think this should be caveated with that you shouldn't submit yourself to any/every process and that not all goals are worth it. Work hard even if you're not enjoying yourself but don't become a husk of a person endlessly on their grindset that doesn't enjoy their life.
I've always wondered how content creators rely on hired editors to make videos for them. How can they possibly know what to put emphasis on in terms of highlights of humer or a serious point? I feel like there would be too much disconnect between the content creators vision and the editors.
You don't think of it when you have a goal
I'm about to go through Job Hunting again here soon, boy am I not looking forward too it. Keen, hardworking, Friendly... can I sit through an Interview without shaking like a leaf and fumbling my words through existential social anxiety? Absolutely not.
The trick with interviews is to do so many that you're inured to it.
The boomer point about the coffees and avocado toast is hyperbole, at least how I understand it. Nobody really believes spending no money on your morning takeaway coffee will get you a house. It's more directed at the young people who recklessly spend money on luxuries instead of saving for a home.
I have seen many friends over the years who can barely afford saving a deposit on top of rent and other living expenses and complain to me endlessly. Yet will impulsively spend hundreds on alcohol when going out at least once a month or drop another hundy on a new videogame deluxe edition.
I'm giving up my £5 a day coffee, thanks Josh. See you in 12 years suckers.
11:30 You are being sarcastic, but in more than one occasion GPS decided, that turning right on the intersection and then straight to my home is not the best option and suggested going left and around the city. Do yeah, maybe trust military grade technology - I am pretty sure soldiers will not, but that besides the point - but don't be afraid to double check it sometimes.
Speaking of walking into shops/companies with a CV... it *does* work. I've done it, my friends have done it, my missis has done it. You'd be surprised, but some places put you above all the online dorks just because you showed up in person and made a good impression 👍 (obviously doesn't work if you haven't showered or seen another human in the last 5 years, but that's beside the point)
Josh, why do you sound like a professional therapist?
Taxing and menial jobs are a problem now? Those were called entry level jobs for decades.
The other option is to get back in the coal mine, dig some ditches by hand, maybe shine some shoes in the subway station. Operate some textile looms or something.
There is a drought of entry level jobs for teenagers and young people in general, and the cost of school keeps going up because everybody thinks a degree will get them a better job, but when everybody has a university degree, it just devalues the degree. Bachelor of literally anything to get a job in an office mail room. Enjoy.
Ill do the boring and hard stuff if it has value to my goals
you dont, just quit
I'm not a boomer but the amount of people I know who spend $30-40 on door dash for $15 of restaurant food and $5 of home cooked food is to much.
That said after covid food is like 2x the price and interest rates are almost 40% so I understand why no one give a shit.
Sounds like you need to start doing timestamps 😂
Embrace the suck!
I wish I could do anything
the grind is not supposed to be enjoyable
1/2 advise 1/2 agist diatribe 😂 👍 the man knows his audience.
His boomer voice sounds like alan partridge
Okay but is Josh gonna multistream on youtube now? He's got to grind for live content on youtube too, not just twitch
is it just me or the audio feels like it isn't synced with josh's mouth movememt
I feel like if you are finding problems with the grind you aren’t doing what you actually want to do. Just me though
I thought it said Grindr and now I'm disappointed
The diference is that old folsk that you refer, acually lesrned something in collage.
On the one hand, I'm glad they grew up and became adults during simpler times. On the other hand, can't stand them.
"As much as I hate crap mobile games, I have to respect the fact that somebody has to make them". Are you sure about that Josh? Are you *really sure* that crap mobile games need to be made. :|
It's not that crappy mobile games need to be made, it's that somebody NEEDS to make them to pay their bills.
I would play a gacha game that has hamburgers instead of characters
This was a fun video but the coffee/avocado bit was just wrong.
So I’m of mind that online mmo’s don’t need every aspect of something to be fun.
Sometimes you need to spend 20+ hours grinding for something, RuneScape for example you’ll spend hundreds of hours over the span of years doing things you don’t enjoy to make things you enjoy more enjoyable.
Music on and switch brain off
Theres something cringey or larpy about the suit get up in a twitch stream.
Only boomer moment is his cope with rationalizing no editor hiring. Lol the linchpin in your argument is simply taking timestamps… if you did that the scenario you described is moot lol. You even mentioned you dont take timestamps-- looks like the easiest change ever, and you could free up all that editing time to further your own ambitions. Plus you creat a job for another human to progress themselves. I think hiring an editor is just a good mext step in your channel. But much respect to how you hone your craft! 🫡 food for thought!
Big mountaineer here. Can confirm that I am consistently in 'I don't wanna be here mode' going up the mountain, but when you get to the top it feels awesome. Then when I come down I'm just like 'can I get to my car any faster.'
the thing is, climbing a mountain is 10000000000x better than going to some retail job, having to hear bs from coworkers, take shit from bosses and customers, and then you don't even feel good when the paycheck comes in.
@@robert7100 Well that is because you dont want to be there and beeing there does not take you further to your actual goal. It only steals energy and time so it is logical that it is 100000000x worse.
For physical activities with set finish lines, the analogy is great. Unfortunately it seems like a lot of people who have more career-oriented or life event-oriented goals, especially over long stretches of time, they often don't feel much at the peak of their mountains. And then they start looking towards the next peak and hope that next time, next time they'll feel something. I'm not sure what the special sauce is, for getting a "sense of pride and accomplishment", but far from all difficult and monotonous activities will lead there. Maybe the immediate lead-up needs to be something extremely challenging or complicated or persistently time-consuming.
@@Hotshot2k4 I agree with this. I read something about the word patience having two meanings.
The first one lines up with the mountain peak analogy, it takes time and effort but after a certain number of steps it will happen. Same as high school or university, you have to put in the effort and do the right, slowly the days turn into years but eventually its done.
The second meaning is more like the job promotion. You put in the hard work and do all the right things, but you have no idea when or if it will actually pay off. Because they don't have to promote you in 1 year, or 5 years or ever really. But you still need the patience to work hard and do the right things. I feel like the second meaning of patience is harder but probably more important to life after school. Careers and love don't really have easy to measure progress. I don't know anyone who doesn't feel the "doing the right thing but still waiting" burnout.
@@Hotshot2k4 Me doing art: "Oh, I can finally draw a hand... now I just need to learn all the other parts in the body, next Light, next composition, next... and so on" until you can actually draw something that you actually envisioned in your head.
Well, I suppose you need to find that peak in every single step, but It's just hard not to get discouraged when you think of the bigger picture, that bigger picture you realize is even bigger the more you feel like getting closer, you need to arrive to the point where you are fully aware that the grind will probably never end, and still choose to do it because is worth it, that's probably where you break trought.
Nah, I don't mean to discourage anyone, we need to keep doing it anyway, it's okay to vent sometimes, I just wish I could started my journey when I was younger and didn't care for the "End goal", just doing art for fun, though I don't even know if I could keep going even then, I've always been too self-aware. Nowdays I look at the kids at the workshop I assist and I just love how they joyfully make what they can, with what they have, while having fun. Kids really are like a mirror for your past self.
Accepting that you often have to do the boring and uncomfortable things is crucial for self growth and maturity. "You gotta do what you gotta do"
You don't, actually.
@@satanic_rosayou have, actually. You will never "just have fun. " No job works like that.
@@alvejadoI don't work. No need to.
@@satanic_rosa...
@@Frank_Costanzas_Lawyer Why would I?
But see Josh. . if you skip the coffee AND the avocado toast. . . you can have the down payment in only 9 years, instead of 10!
But see Hockey1973, if you skip the coffe AND the avocado toast AND you account for inflation you can have the down payment in only 15 years, instead of 10!
Being an adult is perfectly summarized by that Futurama Poster of the man in a hard hat giving a thumbs up "You gotta do what you gotta do"
"Pizza goin' out; C'MOOOOONNNN!"
"I could pay an editor hundreds if not thousands of dollars"
Instead you pay visa a bowl of cereal a month. With milk if they did very well.
Don't forget about the jar of mayonnaise
Ah man, I remember learning that 30 years ago my parents house costed 50.000 euro (equivalent) and is worth today 350.000 euro.
Happily, my parents are under no illusion that this was something like "Oh, we worked hard!" and they are outraged by the housing prices today, the pay for jobs failing to even keep pace with inflation while basically every necessity price has gone up by 30% in four years.
My parents opinion is basically "So yeah, our generation really did a number on the world and I don't envy what is coming after..."
But hey, I don't blame them. They fought the system as much as they could, and they still do.
The issue was millennials didn't do anything except make things worse hollering on climate change and other expensive issues with no concept of how economics costs lives.
Okay boomer
The goal isn't 100% enjoyment 100% of the time. Without the bad or mundane, the enjoyment part would lose it's luster and become meaningless
But what if you enjoy the mundane and grind it for enjoyment?
Visa you FOOL this video was like four amazing stories. FOUR. Could've been so many clips!
It's too late, I've consumed and enjoyed all of it now!
As a uni student who has been looking for a tech internship for the past two years with no success, I can confirm that the process of looking for a job sucks.
I fletched 2,000 maple shortbows to fletch 2,000 maple longbows to fletch 3,000 yew shortbows to fletch 10,000 yew longbows to fletch 1 Magic Shortbow.
The pride I have in my little bow is impossible to overstate.
10:15 I had the same experience. It's like getting a weight off your shoulders. As much as people hate the idea of "I suffered therefore you should too", modern job hunting is something everyone should experience before complaining to anyone for not having a job.
On the other side of the coin for this conversation, I am a person who pursued the job he thought he wanted to do, went to college for it, got several jobs doing it, and *hated every second of it*. I'm in my late 30s and all of the effort I put into my career is a waste because I find the job so discouraging and unpalatable that I'll never get a job in that industry again. You can't know what you don't know, but don't let that discourage you from trying to find a job you like doing. I now have a job I enjoy, but I make a quarter of the money I did previously. I chose the general happiness of my everyday life over my paycheck.
Good for you! Happy to hear you're happy
A successful music producer I follow was one asked what his process was for making good music and being so successful.
His answer was "Just do" he went on to explain that a lot of what he writes is shit but the small amazing bits that creep through show up in the finished product.
Gotta accept the uninspiring moments and keep trying to reach the accomplished payouts
I saw a guy leaning out of his car window, pointing at his map and talking to a passer by the other day and it just cracked me up.🤣
There is a misconception that maximizing joy leads to happiness. Its not true. Whats more fun, 1h of exercise or 1h of watching youtube? TH-cam is more fun but you are happier after 1h of exercise.
But there is a world of difference between a challenge you set upon yourself, and society setting you up for shit jobs just to make ends meet.
@@Qamikace You can always change your perspective so you realize your actions create value for you and the people around you. instead of "i have to do the dishes" it is "I want to create an environment where dishes are always clean and available". Its a very simple example but you get the idea. I helps having a job that contributes towards society or your goals in any way. unless you are a scammer or something unethical, there are people counting on you that youre job is done correctly.
… I exercise while watching/listening to TH-cam (ok not the actual point but felt unreasonably and personally called out) 😂
I think the issue with people giving up too easily and struggling to accept discomfort might at least in part come from not having had support to feel comfortable in that.
At least that was the case for me. Im still learning now that i have that support i need but it should be noted that very frequently people who can't handle that sort of thing aren't taking that view out of pure laziness or pleasure seeking.
This, absolutely. I believe in discomfort lies the key to personal growth. And conversely I also believe the search for all encompassing comfort will eventually lead to personal stagnation or even regression. However as a human being you need to get over that initial bump when you challenge yourself. For example the fear of failing, letting yourself or others down. Or the fear of the unknown. There are more fears like that, most imagined and only few real, that hold us back. But in that discomfort grows the seed of our learning experience. You just need to pick out the bits that have healthy influence on your personal growth.
I hope that through personal experience you now understand the search for personal growth is always worth it, no matter the discomfort. :)
Literally this tho. I'm in gamedev and every few months I get the project I work on changed. The one I've loved the most? Making weapons. But I've been in shithole metaverse & NFT projects, I've been in handpainted projects that I'd usually adore but they're shitty props with choking estimates.
Rn I'm in the process of getting into a mobile company. I still do what I overall like, which is 3D modelling. If I can lower the pace at which I grind, I might just have energy at the end of the day to do personal projects of things I actually wanna do.
This is good advice. A good work ethic does not mean loving what you do at all times. A good work ethic means you push through the mundane and work hard even when it is tough.
that is what you learn in school. it isn't about the topics... it is about learning to force yourself to time management and do the crappy homework. those who struggle the most will be able to do and achieve more in the adult real world. those who cut corners and never did the grind ... they never learned the traits needed to survive in the real world. and as you get older it becomes more difficult to learn/unlearn traits. also people really need to re-learn that you can't have good things in life if you're not willing to do the bad boring things to earn it.
Thanks Josh applying this to my 99 runecrafting grind
10:29 Oh lord. Speaking as a life-long antique dealer, a year old listing (or any active buy-it-now listing) is barely going to be relevant in the current market, let alone 20+ year old reference books. The market for most niche collecting areas have been cut to a single digit percentage of what they were 10-20 years ago. And that's not even considering that so many collectors/dealers are out of business or dead, there's almost no market for any middle of the road to low end pieces. The top 1% will always sell, anything else will be a struggle. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
9:32 i hate modern job hunting
Drugs are usually the answer. 😅
Modern Warfare Zombies. A Call of Duty game that's $70 and has a PvE only Zombies mode similar to the free to play DMZ mode as part of that $70 deal. . People who've gotten EVERYTHING done are already bored, because typical $70 AAA game moment. I genuinely enjoy the mode and HOW do I make the grind enjoyable? I just take my time with it. I haven't played for the entirety of Season 2 of MW3, until maybe 2 weeks ago and I JUST finished the BP but also got the entirety of the story missions up to Act 4 done. All I did was take breaks and go at it on my own time and at my own pace.
EDIT: I just realized this is about job grind. Shit, idk, I'm mentally broken now due to my previous job and physically can't go outside for more than 2 hours, otherwise I'll have a panic attack which causes me to hyperventilate. All I do now is just work on my models and animations to make a game.
Thought i would be told on how to enjoy rpg grinding for xp points instead i got something more useful
"you play games all day and talk into a camera, thats why you have no house. I swam trough shark infested water to school, 30km every day, twice and worked 20 hours after school in a coal mine. Youre just lazy. Oh and i bought my 500 squaremeter house with 50 acres of land for 3 apples and a handshake. Why i dont have grandchilds? I want grandchilds. Why do you dont have kids? Youre selfish"
"because i have no house where they can live mum\dad"
The key is to find aomething where theres a chance itll pay off and you can see results.
It sucks just struggling *if* you get nothing in return, which sadly occurs a lot because of exploitation or incompetence.
This is where having an actual audience or knowing what the fuck youre actually doing is so important.
Do you just keep wearing the same vest and shirt or do you have a whole closet of them like Batman?
Pain is intrinsically understood to be good when it is willingly taken on to achieve something you both want and believe is possible. A lack of hope or feelings of powerlessness is what causes people to pay more attention to the things they dislike. I find that the advice of "Understand pain is part of the game" is somewhat irrelevant compared to the issues people face for that to even be a concern in the first place.