Streaming, the hardest job ever?
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True, true.
@@ImAmirus It's a question.
@@ImAmirus Even if it's not, the way your favourite streamer hasan has been dragged for this shows his complete lack of awareness. As usual
@@ImAmirus Yet here you are.
He edits his own videos
One task I had in an old retail job (during the start of this global pandemic) was standing at the store entrance for 7+ hours, counting people coming in and out. A task a computer system could have done. It was hell, frankly. It's like being in the back of a car on a family holiday, and you just keep going for hours and hours. You have no distractions. You exist there for hours. The endlessness of being there. Unable to leave. Having to wait for it to be over. Stuck in the growing discomfort that starts to burn itself through your muscles.
Was it the "hardest" task? In a way, counting people in and out wasn't, and it didn't matter because we never exceeded the legal limit. I could have lied whenever the store manager asked for a report. But my body and mind were grossly unhappy.
That sounds like a torture thought out by the Dark Eldar...
@@TheHalogen131This is so evil, even Asdrubael Vect would tell them to dial it back a bit.
I'd rather push a boulder up a hill everyday.
@@SvengelskaBlondie it was literal compliance with regulations without the store manager actually giving a shit about the reason the regulations existed. Customer facing parts of the shop, conforming to health regs for Covid 19. In staff areas, not enforced and complicit with creating numerous opportunities for transition of virus. Was an utter shit show.
BRO 😂 I had that same job back in 2010, and it was GREAT. Being entirely focused in counting people, amazing stuff!
But I have to say it was only fun because I had to count around 4000 people every day.
I had a similar job later, but only had to count 300 people. It was CRUSHINGLY BORING. It demanded nothing of me, it was unbearable!💀💀
I have had 15-20 different jobs. I would say the very physical jobs with long hours are in fact very mentally draining. Its one reason there is so much marijuana involved in these low thought, highly physical jobs. It helps you deal with the mental drain from being over worked and the thoughtlessness, and also the bodily pain due to the physicality. University never challenged my brain like laboring carrying heavy things for 45 hours a week. Sure one days worth of labor won't give you much mental drain, but months of it will.
I did a gig job that was to be a labourer helping a landscape gardener. I showed up at 8am. It was the hardest day of work I ever did by 11am. I don't know how you do that stuff for more than a day or two without injuring yourself. This was just a one dayer and one of the guys seemed to get a back injury.
Fast food was working as fast as possible with no breaks for eight+ hours, but it wasn't overly physically strenuous. It was mentally messed up though. I'd go home after a 10 or 11 hour shift, exhausted, but when I'd close my eyes, I'd still see the pizzas and the screen with the orders and I wouldn't be able to sleep.
Yeah can agree as a Landscaper and gardener for 3 years now, literally mentally can’t do it despite enjoying garden work. 7:30-4:30 days everyday in the Australian heat is a nightmare.
Had the exact same experience, did one day of landscaping with my uncle when i was younger and it was very rough.@@williamhornabrook8081
All I hear is you coping with mediocrity and looking for excuses to feel better. Mentally draining physical jobs!?!? What, packaging an order over worked your thought process!?!? I'm sorry but although I disagree with the rhetoric that streaming is more difficult than other jobs, I also think too many of you sound like whiny jealous people. All jobs have their issues. You can be a low wage cashier or a high earning CEO, each job brings its own sets of pros and cons. You all juat want to act like martyrs. Get over it.
Nah, I'm a Brickie and it's /comfy/ even during my apprenticeship when it was really really tough I have literally locked up 6 tonnes of concrete in one day before but it was always a laugh. I genuinely don't know how anyone could work in an office (I'm not hating though :3). My work can be physically draining but mentally it's fine
I was never able to become a streamer because I never found a proper fitting vest.
go to a tailor
I DJ'd over internet radio for a few years because I have a face tailor made for radio. Doing the short voice overs between songs was fine. I have thought about doing streaming, but, I know I am so not entertaining enough to do it on that constant of a basis. This is where I talked about whether or not you are a "fit" for whatever "it" is or not. DJ over a radio? Yep. Constantly entertain people over a stream? Yeah, that I don't have in me.
@@mgass1354 did you try though? Sometimes it is hard to tell without actually trying
This genuinely made me feel better when Josh jokingly said: "teaching isn't hard... go stream an hour of Morrowind then you'll know". I am a teacher and after a tough day this type of humor really made my day. Thanks.
uhhh worst job is probably underwater welder for an oil rig, you get paid millions but every time you go to work its a 50/50 you are dying
True.
Also, hazmat divers. They have to operate with 0 visibility in literal pools of shit...
Brrr
Important takeaway that I got from the "is streaming hard" discussion as well is that there's a lot of different kinds of mental fatigue. Dealing with annoying customers, difficult coworkers, taking care of children, constantly paying attention to the road, making tough management decisions, the distinct fatigue that comes with heavy physical work, the anxiety of maintaining a public image of yourself or that of making sure you complete the job well within the given time frame, and so on. It can all be so different from each other, and vary between people, so it's simply impossible to point to a single objectively most difficult job, even statistically.
yea but a physically draining work is at the same time mentally draining too
@@Tennyson999 That's what I said, albeit admittedly rather indirectly. "The distinct [mental] fatigue that comes with heavy physical work". Cause I was listing different things that can drain you mentally in various ways.
Couldn't you use the self deletion rate as most mentally draining job because the more mentally taxing the worse the mental health. And in that regard i would say it is doctor and nurses.
@@mjw2002mjw I prefer to avoid choosing a single variable as the deciding factor, but a correlation like that would make a lot of sense. And certainly working as a doctor or a nurse can be tough psychically, especially when dealing with emergencies, terminal illnesses, stuff like that.
Pretty much the only correct answer. "It depends." I would also add the existential cost of performing jobs that seem to have little to no meaning. My job is absolutely, objectively, terrible, but I keep doing it because I find a lot of purpose in it. Retail in Walmart would seem to be a breeze in comparison, but I could never stand doing that job, because it would be a literal waste of my time, which is a very finite resource, as I do not believe in what they do. I could never be an influencer for the same reason. Well, and other reasons, obviously. lol.
ah yes the classic Josh strife "i'm a week late on the drama" hayes.
Still waiting for that Palworld video next year 😂
waiting for the drama to die down so the fans wont attack him
The one upper joke was just so flawless
The mentally taxing part of that warehouse job is the knowledge that you are doing a s__t job for s__t wages, and most likely work for a s__t boss. And if you don't think that's exhausting (along with the physical exhaustion), you flat out don't know what you're talking about.
Idk about you but when I worked warehouse and factory jobs my mind died. All I did was bullshit with coworkers and just watch the clock get to breaks and lunch and time to go. I never wondered about the shit boss or the how much he makes compared to me bc like I said my mind died 😅. Now as a postal worker I do both mental and physical work I have to deal with numbers names, complaints and management with the physical part of walking for 10 miles a day my knees are shot but I’ll tell you I rather do this than go back into a warehouse bc I love the sun the weather it has greatly improved my mental health so take that as you will.
40 to 50 hours a week is not as much as people make it out to be. Started working when I was 14 I'm 39 now. I own a pizzaria and am not going to list all of my accomplishments. Always plenty of time. I'm guessing you had kids and a house too early.
Warehouse jobs are easy suckaaa, u dont like it find a better job. Or save up and build ur own warehouse lol
@@blitzkrogg2589 it depends on what you're doing and how draining it is for you. not everyone is going to enjoy what you did or find it as easy as you.
Someone else's gain does not equal your loss.
I fucking HATED working in an office. It is one of the most soul crushing places you'll be forced into.
I've went from a physically demanding job were i knew the expectations to quite a cushy office job with minimal work and I honestly hate it. I feel anxious. It feels wrong. I have massive imposter syndrome.
Depends on the company.
@@ChrisG_90mood, I feel this too much
Quit bein pussies and enjoy the good times while u can, cuz they dont usually last
When I did a warehouse job (0 qualification required), it was physically draining but despite being poor af, I was quite happy and still went to the gym.
Now doing a technical office job (with my MSc) for less than twice the hourly wage and it's just killing me.
First firm broke half a dozen labour laws, the general atmosphere and workload drove me into burnout to the point of pissing blood from stress, and I developed a drug addiction as a coping mechanism. Haven't regularly gone to the gym in years either.
And the imposter syndrome! I felt like an idiot surrounded by even bigger idiots.
Honestly, I feel like some manual labour job would probably make most people the happiest if the pay wasn't an issue. @@ChrisG_90
"Where do the 10mm wrenches go"
They get sucked into random wormholes and get taken to a planet that's entirely made to cater to 10mm wrenches.
Aliens use 10mm as standard and they keep losong theirs so they take ours
@@BrandonDenny-we1rw Where do the alien 10mm wrenches go?! 😶
@@iamcerealman102 the mole people who make nothing of their own
They are living in harmony with the 10mm sockets XD
You need to adapt the bigstackD australian technique of putting them in a separate, sealed box
The 10mm wrenches are off partying with all the single socks.
Like other jobs - on it's own doesn't sounds bad, but then there's the worst factor... other people.
Who can make your life worse, miserable or hell.
Youre a streamer. You dont have to act on the words people type.
@@BrandonDenny-we1rwnot wrong, but it's a staple that either you are good at making people like what you yourself want to do, or not acting on your audience expectations will not get you anywhere
@@shinkiro403 Not a real audience then, theyre people who want to see you dance for them before moving onto the next person, if they were entertained by you being you no need to focus on those asking you to change
@@BrandonDenny-we1rwThat's a whole can of worms itself. Not saying streaming is difficult, but this is definitely a hazard of streaming. Many don't/can't discern between the two and are worse off for it.
@@fk3239 agreed
Josh has given the best takes over advice on getting into streaming and what it’s like. Really appreciate his insight.
Shoveled brass into a 900 degree furnace in the middle of summer in Louisiana, cleaned giant chicken houses that were infected with bird flu where it often got 115+ degrees inside our suits, built airplanes with no A/C inside the hangers, worked oil field, warehouse supervisor, and mechanic, and was in the infantry. I’ve had a lot of physical jobs. Currently do maintenance and I love it. With all that said I figured I’d use my oh so useful degree (benefit of the army) and work in an office for HR. I absolutely hated it. It’s a skill set I do not possess. For me personally it was very draining. Yes I was drained after all of my other jobs, and I spend a lot of time in my current job having to make decisions and figure out problems, but for me I was much more fulfilled and less worn out doing my other jobs than my HR job sitting all day behind a desk. Long story, long I guess it comes down to doing what you enjoy.
Agreed! There's a rote, factory like quality to office work that I find dehumanizing. I hate it all. I worked retail for years and always hated the time I had to spend in the office doing admin work.
i've done physical labor, I've done office work, tech work, managing, retail, etc. I hate managing people and I could never do office type work that revolves around meetings and basically talking things through with coworkers all day. I hate it. I'd rather do back breaking physical work or mentally intensive work where I have to troubleshoot things and think. I just hate people managing.
The 10mm wrenches go to the shadow realm and never come back, get a 10mm wrench for your parents who are mechanics and see them be genuinely happy, it is suffering to try and find a 10mm
You could see where it lands but once you break eye contact the 10mm gremlins steal it
nr 1 rule in a company job, is to NOT be the fastest AND hardest worker, why?, companies love those types, and they WILL work you to the bone, for as little pay as possible, a smart worker would know how quickly they can get the job done, then they will just "appear" to be working, until they have to do it, and then get the job done, instead of getting the job done right away, only to get handed another case, and another case and so on and so forth
My brother told me that when home office boomed, his company made an analysis.
They found out that people in home office worked 40% less, but at the same time they noticed that the productivity did raise to 150% in the same time.
So much for "working 8 hours in the office is more productive".
That was one of the best things to happen during the covidian lockdowns. Everyone finally realized, "We don't need to work in an office. Everything we do can be done remotely." That scared the real estate mongrels, yet somehow they still maintain their monopoly of bullshit.
Even at my job, the dispatchers in the office have zero reasons to physically be somewhere. Their entire job is to sit at a computer, look at a spreadsheet, and send drivers information via email. If they need to talk to someone, they can call or email them. Nothing is super important enough that it needs to be answered asap. Yet they're all back in the office. We still pay for all this office space that we wuite literally do not need.
Management fears they can't control people if they are not physically there.
It's partly the fact that the corporate real estate already exists and executives will be damned if it isn't put to use and also that managers like the feeling of watching their employees work, thinking that this will make them work harder.
my company has been closing down offices because only 10% or less of empoyees wanted to go back. Its really nice and refreshing and makes me respect it more. One of my coworkers from another state shared that one of the offices in the same city as them is being turned into a Costco lol.
“Nothing is super important enough that it needs to be answered asap.”
That explains a lot. I knew deep down the hours I’ve spent waiting for a dispatcher to call me back with a contact number so I can do my job were due to laziness, but it’s still nice to see it confirmed.
That's one thing I learned the hard way when streaming myself. I started off at 5 days a week, about 6 hours a day, both morning and evening streams. "It's just playing video games; I do that all the time!" WRONG. The commentary is exhausting, focusing on making it entertaining, finding time to upload, make thumbnails and clips, finding time for networking, otherwise just being active outside of stream. All of this on top of having a full-time job.
Is streaming the hardest job? No, of course not! But it is very mentally demanding and requires a heavy amount of time management.
the thing is ... if oyure working AND streaming and are small so no real money commign in . .thats valid
If youre making MILLIONS while people actually work their bodies into the ground tillthey cant work anymore .. and make barely minimum wage .. then youre an entitle fucktard ...
Its not about the statement ... but who says it
I think one aspect Josh overlooked, at least until the point I had watched, is whether or not someone has the right... we'll say abilities... to do (insert here). The more you "fit", for lack of better word, with the job or task the less straining, and draining, it is on the person.
If you're naturally talented in entertaining people, then streaming is easier for you than someone who isn't. You would experience less of a strain and drain then someone who is trying to force it. The same can be said of physically demanding jobs. Someone who has the body type for that physically demanding job will find it easier than someone who doesn't. Again, the strain and drain will be less for that person.
Somewhere a guy has a cellar full of unique socks filled with 10mm wrenches, single jigsaw pieces, vinegar sachets, and those little pens from argos.
"Where do the 10mm wrenches go?" I was a mechanic
in the army, always the 10mm sockets and wrenches that vanish.
Its horrible to say, but covid was the best thing that ever happened to a lot of jobs forced to be in an office you could just do from home. I always wondered why the hell am i having to come into an office to do 2 hours of work and pretend to be busy the other 6.
true dat. some desk job could be done at house with current technology. it is very possible to work 4 or 3 days at office, and 1 or 2 days in home. Imagine the gas price, and travel time we could save
This take was 1000% better than what Asmon flubbed hard on in a much longer context.
There are a few things I disagree with. The work hard = get the things you want argument is way more nuanced. If you wanna caveman the argument and just say, throw yourself into whatever job you can get and apply all your effort to it, sure you may not be able to get all the things you need. It depends. What job is it? Is it minimum wage? Do you work with people who will simply use you for your labor, or will you work with people who value your work and help you go beyond that job?
Beyond those nuances, you can work extremely hard and pick the right job and find massive success. It’s hard to always know what you’re good at and how best to be holistically determined and full of effort. You may say that’s being smarter not working harder, but as Josh proposed in this video, it’s just different. Some people have a knack/ skill for thinking efficiently, knowing themselves, and knowing how to approach their life that minimizes excess stress/effort. Some people don’t. Some people need to simply be given a task and you let them go to town on it. Some people excel with things/stuff, others excel with dealing with people. I’d personally say that you don’t get one without the other: you need to think well and work hard to succeed. Not a lot of people can do that.
Case in point, this whole “how hard is it to stream” argument. Some people who stream have 0 talent in this. They jumped into a job they thought they could do because they assumed they just had to “record themselves playing video games.” They don’t consider things like a regular entrepreneur does: is their product/service something someone else wants and is willing to pay for? it ends up being harder for them because it doesn’t end up being this simplistic job they believed it to be.
Honestly I think I'd have to lose the 2 remaining brain cells I have to go into streaming. Maybe I'm assuming wrong thinking some people just get into streaming as a job rather than tryina capitalize off a chunk of success, but I genuinely find the idea of streaming as work baffling.
But then I'm also self-aware enough to know that I as a streamer am part of a dime a dozen content creators and even among my non-successful peers there's far more witty, savvy, knowledgeable or plain entertaining people.
I just keep getting brought back to John's point in his influencer video, that you should only do it for its own sake, rather than for success.
yeah, it's why I choose to have streaming as a hobby I do instead of a job. I am not out to sell myself, I am out to share the games I enjoy to those that happen to listen
I already learned this as a kid.
The mailman with his red cabby and some other villager started fighting about how easy the others job was so they decided to swap jobs for a day and the next day they set aside their differences as they utterly failed at the very hard job the other had. Kids shows with real wisdom ftw
I was so ready to call BS until you mentioned that it was from a show lol
I do rope access window washing, dangling hundreds of feet in the air, battered by the elements. Then hauling and re-rigging said massive ropes for new drops. This is without a doubt the chilliest and most enjoyable job I've had since I was a chef. I think it's all so subjective, I probably couldn't handle streaming for more than an hour, ignoring the fact I would be horrible at it. I would not be able to sit still for that long or talk for that long. To each their own.
You must really trust whoever is in charge of maintaining the safety harness, the pulley wires and mechanisms, the rods, holds, screws, and welding holding the entire system together, also the person who made them……………….
@@KuchhhI know him because he's me, atleast for the maintenance and inspections of all the gear, I also used to install and assist in the manufacturing of roof anchors prior to taking the rope access course. It's all heavily over engineered and regularly inspected. We take safety very seriously. Irata rope access is an incredibly fun and safe trade! I'm grateful I found my way to it.
Any job you do in your pyjamas is not a hard job
On the clothes thing, I just put my clothes up in a random order based on how I pull it out of the hamper. The most thought I put into my clothes is making sure if I wear a grey shirt I don't also wear grey jeans. I pull my shirts out left to right and put on whatever pants are in the clean pile.
The internet doesnt need more multi hour retrospectives on morrowind and oblivion.... but i will watch any new ones that do get made like ive never seen one before
If he had only said it was hard it would've been completely fine, but the fact he compared it to other jobs and said its much harder is fucking stupid, without mentioning the fact that he's had it way easier than any other streamer who's got to the same position through actual effort which nobody denies is difficult
Oh, of all the people who would be in zero position to talk, it would absolutely be him. At least Asmon actually has had some sort of work experience, even if it was more than a decade ago.
@@YangBalanceYin But he did have work experience lol. In the original video he compared streaming to his previous jobs and how they made him feel afterwards. He later clarified anyways so it doesn't matter.
In the original version that was not cut out of context. His take was %100 identitcal to Josh's take.
as someone who also spent a ltime in the motor industry, the 10mm wrenches, spanners and bits go to the same pocket dimension all the socks go to and i will die on that hill
Josh, you remind me very much of my old Drama teacher. He was a very wise man, and a very funny man. Your experience with teaching and life in general comes off in the way you speak and view the world, which is very down-to-earth and sensible. I say with zero irony that more people should exhibit that same level-headedness, and I very much look up to you in that sense.
This will NOT be read, but if you do read it, I wish you well.
NGL this argument is what makes me love my job. Was planning to switch job to more benefits and income (me being a WFH contractor out from lockdown) but I realize my job right now is almost the easiest job in the world. I don't mean that it's easy per se, but it's easy enough for me that I can just go autopilot on my shift. I don't have to travel, everything can be automated and reduced to only whenever I need to talk, even then I can just do other stuff while the thing is going on, doing good becomes a deterrent for any training. Basically have nothing to make decisions on; just log-in, talk a script, log out. That's the easiest shit ever and I even earn something from it.
FYI the other job was mobilization which got hyped by my mother for being her dream job, boy she had no idea how much I hate leaving the house.
As a hobbyist mechanic - I've heard the 10mm wrench joke so many times that I pay special attention to where I place my 10mm wrenches so they rarely get lost. =)
It's wonderful we have people like josh who use reason and thoroughly explain things. Rather then getting emotional and angry when explaining.
I drive hours to work and back where I monitor valves mostly by muself with a heavy backpack and a handheld probe 4 to 5 days a week. Despite it being many more hours than my previous grocery cashier job (which was in a.c. of course and gave me more time to hang out, sleep, etc), it's so much less mentally draining. It's amazing how a 10 hour shift can be so much preferred to a 5 1/2 hr mundane job that prevents use of headphones and requires constant smiling and customer interaction.
I personally think working at a call center is a hard job
Josh made a good point that people are different if you are afraid of heights. Climbing towers to change light bulbs is probably not on your top 10 most wanted job list where someone else could love doing that.
Sewer diving is a job, and I think about that sometimes when I start thinking my job sucks.
I wake up every day at 430. I’m at work 530-545 and I’m offloading trucks of furniture and staging it for our warehouse team. I’m loading frames of glass and furniture to be on jobsites that morning by 7-8. I also have to do all the paperwork that pertains to pulling and transferring the product in our inventory system. I’m here 12 hours every single day, and work most of the day on Saturday.
If I could sit and goof around playing video games I’d be pretty happy. Video games are how I relax.
I was a live-in caretaker of my grandma that had dementia. 24/7 for 3 years as it got worse and worse, rarely got to properly sleep because of her sundown syndrome where she starts packing the house to go "home" every night.
Got hit a lot, chased with knives, and had to add extra locks to doors to keep her from leaving. All alone with no breaks or vacations, while my family didn't want to help, even my multimillionaire uncle who was buying fancy houses and fixing them up by New Orleans at the time instead of helping his mother. My mom left the state when my sisters went to work at Disney, and just moved with them instead of helping.
I did this until I had a nervous breakdown and had to go to mental rehab for a week. I still haven't recovered because they threw her in a nursing home, 5 months in, they neglected her letting her fall, causing brain damage, so she couldn't walk anymore or use one of her arms. It was only down hill from there, in exchange for my uncle not looking at the security tape they didn't want him to see, they gave my grandma a discount for staying there, so back she went to the neglectful nursing home until she died almost a year to the day after they threw her away. That was a year and two months ago now.
Don't think any job could be worse. I loved my grandmama. Even when she forgot everyone else she remembered me.
22:51 spot on, a clothing company I used to work for did something like that where the customer would by their clothes, then they bought a piece of reduced clothing to donate. So we took the money none of which went to charity then donated a bunch of old clothes we could of donated anyway and patted ourselves on the back. I remember the supervisors/ managers trying to like hype every one up about it while I stood their asking the above. I do not miss that job. TLDR company took from the poor to give to the poorer and declared job well done
11 minutes ago I was listening a short of Josh talking about grind.
For those 11 minutes I was absolutely, without a shadow of doubt, sure, that I was still listening to right now, is just a continuation of that previous clip.
I was wrong.
In my last job my 1st boss (middle manager) was so hell bent on working in a hybrid system (it was at the tail end of covid), and I was like, look, it's covid, I'm from far away, I am down to come in sometimes, but lemme work from home. They warned and warned we're gonna go back to the office, and covid case after covid case in the office, we just wouldn't. Eventually she went on a maternity leave, and the whole management structure got restructured and they were like okay 60% of our employees are not even from towns near the office, fuck the hybrid system; people in Warsaw come into the office twice a week, and it was very adjustable to just not come in as long as one person from your team was in. And honestly, working from home was kinda funny, I'd get up, do my morning work, go to sleep, do my afternoon work, make dinner, watch something, do the end of the shift work, easy. Obviously sometimes I had to actually put 8 hours in, but we could also take breaks like normal people. When I went into the office though my productivity was lowest ever because open office is like the worst invention of all time when you need to focus. I don't mind office noise, but people speaking while I proofread something that has to be handed in, in 20 minutes... nah. Not only that, but when you have nothing to do you can't really kick back with youtube or some TV series because someone will snitch on you.
Not to mention various experiments proved that working in an office can decrease productivity as much as 60% compared to working from home. Bruh, just rent a smaller office, source people from all around the country/world.
Here in Italy there was a theatre play about the worth of one's job.
It was about a comedian and his friend. They both die and meet in heaven and they have to persuade Saint Peter to let them through the pearly gates, and once the main character comes up, he says that he was an entertainer, who gifted millions with laughter and made everyone's day a bit better.
To which Saint Peter asks him if he ever thought about working in a deli, implying that a comedian has less overall value than the guy cutting your sandwich meat.
The moral of the story is that the value of one's work and the struggle and the effort are all subjectively related to the person doing it.
Josh is such a wise man.
There are jobs that are physically hard, ones that are mentally hard and ones that are neither and the hard part is doing nothing while time seemsto crawl to a stop. Who could decide which one is the worst one.
Don't worry, he's honestly not very wise, you are just very stupid, which makes him seem a lot more intelligent relative to you.
Hope that made sense (I know there's a good chance you're just more confused now)
Big respect Josh... I already was with You from the start but when You stared cooking about working from home... Big up 🎉
4:40 no because i just pick something without thinking much about it, as long as it's clean idc
100% agree on your comment about offices. I saw The Telegraph write an article about it, the author was an old bloke lol.
Underwater oil rig welding: exists.
Streamer: I have the hardest job.
That hammer joke reminds me of the story about Picasso where he charged a lady a lot of money for scribbles on a paper, she said "but it only took you 30 seconds" and he replied "no, it took me 40 years".
i work in a CNC workshop with very large parts up to 1,5 Tons per part. these parts get manufactured to be within a tollerance of 0.005mm. My manager has to decide daily multiple times if parts are good or no good. projects can be sometimes up to 4000 parts large. if one of those is no good. it causes thousands sometimes tens of tousands of Euros of damage or remanufacturing. That i belive is working under pressure. That is mentaly taxing. Streaming is being entertaining for long periods of time, definitly not easy and can be taxing but no way as taxing as many other jobs.
What an utterly alien way of thinking to me. I never like to set up calendars or alarms (except for waking up), I like having an assortment of teas and coffees and choose in the moment what I'm going to have, whenever I get thirsty. I almost never play games with friends because I hate being "forced" to do something in advance, maybe when the time comes I don't want to play an action game, I want a turn based one, or maybe I don't want to play or talk with people at all and prefer to read.
May be because of my line of work (product research).
10mm bits go to the same dimension as guitar picks when they fall.
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Retail security here. It's a bit cheeky, but it's the same item so that's probably fine. The problem is when you put that yellow sticker on a microwave or something.
I definitely have decision fatigue and it’s not even because I have a demanding job or anything like that. I just overthink everything I do and I need to take a break from decision-making whenever I can. I mostly struggle with indecision paralysis and it might be because I have ADHD or something but I don’t know cause I don’t have a formal diagnosis. I always wondered why the idea of having a limited number of clothes. Options appeal to me so much now I know! There’s a reason why I am attracted to the idea of collecting two or three pairs of the same color pants and blank T-shirts, I’ve settled on outfit formulas with a limited color scheme and that has already helped with my decision fatigue a ton.
Regarding home office: In my experience lots of middle and higher managment is almost married to their work. I mean you normally dont get into those positions if you are not actively pushing for your career and it requires a certain "get ahead" mentally to be there. Those people dont want to work from home in many cases since the family is there and they need some time away from family.
Your story about 10mm wrenches reminded me about our problem at railroad deport.
13mm was popular size at old soviet tech.
And it was X-files mystery how 13mm wrenches have tendency to... just disappear.
Always amazing to see how many walks of life all converge on one content creator. Apparently Josh has a lot of mechanic fans. I didn't even know he was a mechanic before. This is new lore to me. I knew he was a teacher but not this
Offices are one of those multiple things can be true at the same things. There’s the investment portfolio aspect and then there’s a series of more complex management, communication, socioeconomic and sociocultural aspects. Things like people being super disconnected from each other and their tasks because spontaneous communication doesn’t happen as much when everyone is at home (granted there are entire organizational models around people that almost never see each other working from home in different time zones to keep work up basically 24/7, but those are specific to a handful of industries mostly in IT), rifts between different positions because not every job is an office job (even some of those have on-site requirements for certain tasks) and therefore aren’t afforded the flexibility of things like work from home etc. Very much depends on the job and the industry.
He also overlooked all the people those evil offices employ. Janitors, grounds keepers, cooks, cleaning people, the dude that fixes our elevator, etc. that are actually at the office. Then add the businesses around those offices like gas stations, doggy daycare, restaurants, etc. and you have a ton of people that no longer have a job. Businesses often get big tax breaks for having people in the office. I am sure a lot of that is lobbying, but you can’t say that the economy doesn’t need those offices.
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Very true and a lot of those auxiliary jobs are pretty important to keep things functioning.
It would be lovely if people could get out of these dichotomies of good and evil and more into mindsets of this constructive and this is not constructive, then work towards actionable solutions.
@keithb6344 then we look at Japanese black companies and they are actual hell on earth, or better yet an animator
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You do realize that this comment thread is about offices as in the physical buildings and the economic impact not the specific policies of the companies in them?
@@4.1132 yeah I'm just mentioning the worst of the worst office jobs
Currently, I'm a delivery driver, one of the closers at that. I work from 6pm to anywhere from 1am to 4am depending on the night, 4 nights a week in a row. I used to work 5 back when it was way wayyyy worse staffing wise, but the mental toll on me was too much and I had to dial it back to 4. Most nights (now anyway) are fairly pleasant, if a bit routine, I enjoy driving at night so it suits me I guess. But there'll always be those awful nights, shit happens, and work can (and will) suck sometimes. As long as you give yourself recovery time any job can be manageable, and that can vary depending on the person. For me it's 3 days to rest, deal with family obligations, and have consistent time to schedule doctor's appointments for my wife.
Had to stop 3min in to drop my 2 cents. A physically demanding job is just as mentally demanding or possibly more so than a strictly mentally demanding job. I work a cushy office job now, but have had my fair share of physical labor and the mental fortitude and general willpower you need to just get yourself prepped for what is ahead is astounding let alone to push through the lows of the day when your arms are numb and legs are jelly while youre covered in sweat. The demanding toll for you to focus and push through while being able to draw out your last reserves of energy is breaking both mentally and physically. The single worst day of work I ever had (so bad it caused me to change my life entirely) was working an 11 hour shift with only a 30min lunch in a -17 degree freezer reorganizing and doing inventory for 3 departments at a major retail chain. The freezer was about 50yrds long and 25yrds wide. I had to completely redo the entire thing. I got home at a level of exhaustion I didnt realize was possible and so cold I couldnt quit shivering. That day I told myself it was time to make some changes and that change was to a job without the taxing physical demands.
Also physical jobs have mental demands too. You have timelines and are often juggling multiple things at once so while youre pushing yourself to the physical brink you are also trying to plot out the day, problem solve issues, and talk to clients just like an office job.
As a counter point to the argument for that being the only reason to go back to offices. I actually don't like working from home because then it is more difficult for me to seperate work and free time. Especially with a stressful assignment, I just won't relax even though the working hours are over considering I am still in the same physical space.
16:40 how have you so accurately described my workplace?
Josh Strife throwing out the Patrician Tier shoutout. What a lad.
Streaming isn't as physical as doing parkour.
Saturday's at 7
Sunday's at 4.
You never lectured for 8 hours a day and it shows.
@@1IGG in regards to your comment I feel I could add more.
Saturdays at 7
Sundays at 4
I was born with ADHD and Autism. Those two mixed is udder fucking chaos. I can't have a strict schedule otherwise i go insane. i can't have a purely chaotic schedule otherwise i go insane. Having both this severely my entire life did give me more coping mechanisms than most people get. I would take a shower the night before, pick out my clothes, do anything else that needed doing the next day so i didn't burn mental energy with my overactive brain thinking about *everything* and paying attention to even the littlest details at any point in the day. I won't even have my own kids due to how likely they are to get one or the other or both and be subject to the same hell I'm subject to.
There was this one pair of trousers and this one hoody that were my definite favourite. I'd always feel best when wearing this set. Then, when I went to the store again, there were miltiple of these trousers and hoodies in my size! So I bought two more sets, and then I could wear my favourite clothes EVERY DAY!
Now, whenever my clothes wear out after a couple of years, I find clothes I like and buy multiple sets, and they will be my clothes for a prolongued period of time. I always look the same. I just don't see, when you have clothes that you like, why you would buy other clothes that you like less, just for some vague sense of variation. I just don't understand.
Working in refrigeration was probably the most draining job I've ever had. Working in hot areas in the summer sweating your ass off, being frozen as hell in the winter, up and down ladders, up and down stairs carrying gear. That would just wipe me, brain toast from troubleshooting, exhausted from running around everywhere. Yeah after work id eat, shower and pass out on the couch watching tv and repeat.
The miners in the cobalt mines 👁️👅👁️
And in defense of offices.
Not many people have self-discipline to work at home.Too many distractions.
Office space sets the mood. "This is working place. I am going to work"
Josh is so wise 💜
issue with the factory job is it is a lot of mental too. if you care you will look over every part all day 100's and 100's to look for small defects. to keep focused 500 parts into you being tired and to catch a issue that will save $1000 is a real skill and a lot cant do it. also why we have bad products now because they dont pay people to care.
LOL. My dad's 79 years old and still does some mechanic work. I can tell you we've been looking for the 5/8 wrench and the 10mm wrench for YEARS.
I love the Yellow Stickers!
But sometimes they are traitors among them.
Stickers that are yellow but not lowered in Price!
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To paraphrase that one kid from south park;
EFAP did it!
Absiolutely, Streaming is right up there alongside off-shore underwater welding in the north sea.
You've got to make a multi day Morrowind retrospective. Something over 48 hours.
I agree. It always bugged me to find the correct sock and to fold them. Easy solution: one model of sock in black, two types of underwear, one for summer and one for winter.
Every time I buy jeans, I buy 3 black ones and 3 blue ones of the same model.
I own the same jacket in black for every day, in white for night, red for the forest, blue for special occasions.
I buy shoes in dozens, I like the model and it's cheaper to order more.
My wife thinks I'm weird, but I know I'm just efficient.
Your wife is good at judging people.
How many shoes do you break? I buy ONE PAIR every 5 years or so
@@derAtze one pair of knock-off chucks last 2-3 years, after 2 years I can not show myself with them at pseudo-fancy meetings, so there is always a mix of 1 great pair, one okay pair and one raggedy pair. So each order lasts about 12-15 years.
But just to be clear: I did not order 12 pair of shoes all my life, I worked myself up from 1 pair and last time I went a bit too far.
But on the bright side: I don't have to look for shoes for a very long time.
I do think there is a benefit to an office, at least if you have proper communication between departments. There are too many instances of work-from-home jobs devolving into a situation where the right hand doesn't even know the left hand exists, let alone that it doesn't know what its doing.
It becomes hard to coordinate, hard to workshop and hard to build a team that has to work in tandem because you are in your own insulated bubble and no one matters but the tiny bit you have to do, and it can make a system with multiple moving parts lurch along because you have no accountability to the guy that depends on your work.
I had to rewind and re-listen when I heard the 10mm wrench thing. As an auto tech I’ve never related to a TH-camr this much
About the work from home/back to office thing. I actually really dislike a work environment where no one is in half the time. Work takes up 40 hours of your week, having a nice social environment at your work place makes it 1000x more bearable for me. Whenever I've worked at work from home places I noticed it just decimates any kind of collegiality and makes it boring.
Much like it is hard to sit still for long periods of time, it is hard to switch off your brain. I often felt mentally drained from "mindless" work even long after I had physically adjusted to handle it without issue. Your mind wears itself out racing around to fill the dead time where you aren't actively thinking about your bodily movements. In dangerous fields this can be especially problematic if you get stuck on sidetracked thoughts, or with an exhausted mind, just as you need to pay special care to safety.
I call them, Spotlight Snatchers.
"Put out a lot of videos" is probably the easiest way to fail at being a good TH-camr
just came here to say that I appreciate you very much, mister
As someone that did industrial machine repair for 15 years, I have come to the belief that 10mm sockets go to the same place that all the left socks go over time - they are lost to the Warp. I'm in the US and we still have that problem!
i would love to see a reality show where streamers work in a coal mine, "Streaming At the Coal Mines"
I like the multi hour retrospectives of morrowind are welcome, I use them to fall asleep to.
Listen.. multi hour retrospectives of morrowind and KoToR are what keep me going at work some days!
Its very mentally draining to be actively physically drained
I'd like to start a youtube series. But how do I start?
Man, I could listen to Josh Strife for Dayes.
People who make or support that take should try a commonly agreed hard work for at least 1 year, they'll reconsider it real fast.
thats not the take though. thats a bad arguement
@@talkinggibberishDoesn't make it entirely not true though. Streamers of all people have basically zero room to complain about their jobs
@@talkinggibberish This is not the first time i've heard this take. This specific take is definitely false, literally just because teachers exist.
@@alitguar8907 He specifically explains that other constantly people pleasing jobs (like customers service and teachers) are also draining in the same way as streaming, he specifically makes a comparison to his previous job in sales where he also had to talk to people a lot but it was not as draining on his mental health and social battery as streaming.
@@enider Ok, since you clearly watch him, can you tell me does he specifically say that streaming is the hardest job? Because this just isn't true.
About the supermarkets and donations.
Here in my country, not only they get to brag about "they" donating to charities, they also get a tax exemption of 100% of the amount donated.
didn't Josh have a podcast tho? the tangent tavern with Callum. that was a thing a while ago
ah go i hate the reduced stickers especially on like fringe items really hard to scan
The 10mm wrench/rachet go to the mechanics house. Oh let me just bring this home, I forget where mine ended up wandering off to. Then you get to work, wait, where's the 10mm?
I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade, but still don't doubt that streaming can be quite exhausting. To be extroverted for hours on end sounds like a nightmare lmao XD
True. The problem is that streaming is one of the most volunteer jobs you can have. It's not like being in a call center, or in retail. People in these jobs usually don't have much choice. Streaming is unprofitable for most people and most streamers are probably worse off than they would be on a minimum wage. So...yeah, it sounds like a nightmare, but it's self-inflicted nightmare. They can't really complain if they're not forced into it. It would be like having two broken arms, choosing to become a coal miner and then complaining your arms hurt cause you gotta swing the mining pick all day long.
Its not volunteer if u got an audience built up. Now u gotta keep em entertained or u lose it all.
Streaming it can be hard but saying its harder than most jobs is delusional and ignorant.