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  • @briansilva3765
    @briansilva3765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +863

    Josh's patreon has a very good incentive, to see how smaller he can make the names and how bigger the list can get at the end of his videos.

    • @tbone9474
      @tbone9474 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Is there a small enough police size to make them visible on a decent sized monitor? We'll find out

    • @stratojunon2553
      @stratojunon2553 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Can confirm, its getting harder and harder to find my name in the list. and i love it

    • @bunnylovingbastard
      @bunnylovingbastard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Honestly, I am tempted to become a patron when my finances sort themselves out just to be part of the problem 🤣
      Best incentive ever

    • @KalebsRevenge
      @KalebsRevenge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      this is why i kinda wish i could afford to. josh has best patreon XD

    • @ArDeeMee
      @ArDeeMee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A worthy cause.

  • @Endelin
    @Endelin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    Time to start a "Worst Mobile Games Ever" series, sponsored by the game in question 😂

    • @yaminarthem1977
      @yaminarthem1977 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I remember that the Albion video was sponsored by Albion.
      It could be cool to see how much damage Josh can do to the games and how many try to sponsor a video before no Mobil game companies send emails

    • @gavinmorton7682
      @gavinmorton7682 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@yaminarthem1977 Was about to mention that exactly xD

  • @holyknightthatpwns
    @holyknightthatpwns 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +383

    I feel like Patreon has an implicit agreement that you'll continue to make the things to the quality that you have been and fulfill any tier rewards, but that's it. People can stop supporting you if they have an issue with what you're doing, but they don't own you and they don't own the money after they've given it to you

    • @Dyanosis
      @Dyanosis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      While it's true that you never truly "own" anyone by giving them money, you do own a share of the service that they provide and should have a say, and be heard, about the service you're paying for. Like buying stock in a company. Or paying for your electricity bill.
      Your statement is slightly confusing. Here's an example about what confuses me:
      You pay for electricity. The understanding between you and your provider is that you pay money, they provide electricity to your home. You think that means all the time. They think that means whenever it's convenient for them. So they only give you electricity for 6 hours a day. Not always in contiguous chunks. And some days you have no electricity. Is that what you paid for? Is that the service you want? If you stop paying, you won't have any electricity at all. But if you complain to them, according to your ideology, they don't have to do a damn think about it because they're already "fulfilling their part of the deal".

    • @holyknightthatpwns
      @holyknightthatpwns 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

      @@Dyanosis when you pay for electricity, you are purchasing a service. When you support an artist on patreon, you are only purchasing a service if that is explicitly part of the agreement. That service might be exlusive videos, that service might be getting a shout out, or who knows what else.
      In this channel's case, there are no patreon rewards - you are explicitly not purchasing a thing when you support Josh on Patreon. There is no formal agreement, there is no guarantee - there is only the expectation that he continues to make quality content, and the understanding that if he doesn't you'll probably stop supporting him.
      You're confused because you don't understand the difference between purchasing and supporting.
      Regarding stocks (which are irrelevant, because that's not what he's selling) - you do own a portion of the company, but you do not get to tell the company how to operate unless you own a substantial portion of it - a larger percent than most patreon subscribers actually provide.

    • @GreenLarsen
      @GreenLarsen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@Dyanosis Not sure how it is in the UK (or wherever you live), but generally you pay for the electricity you have used, not what you will use in the future (at least where I live). In the same way I look at Patreon, I pay for the content that I have already consumed and enjoyed. I might hope that you will continue providing similar content, but if not, then I will not pay again next time.
      In this way, it is different from a physical product, and this make sense. Since a physical product that do not live up to my expectations, I can return. I can hardly "un-see" a vid. So here it makes more sense to get the "product" first and then pay.
      But that's just me

    • @zeejustin6
      @zeejustin6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@holyknightthatpwns The notion that patreons somehow own or should influence Josh's future content or something like a stakeholder is absurd if that's what is being argued in any way.

    • @chidori0117
      @chidori0117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Dyanosis The difference here is that if you dont pay for electricity you dont get it. If you support on Patreon you are not paying for a service you are donating. You can get access to the same content if you dont pay. People dont just owe you just because you decided to give them money out of your own decision. (Patreon support exclusives are an execption to this since you are paying for those but this is the only thing you are paying for not the content itself. But for those it is clearly stated what you will recieve and if you dont you should withdraw your support). Patreon support is not a purchase of service. You are also not a stakeholder you have no financial risk in the operation of the channel and you can withdraw your support at any time therefore you do not have any control about it.

  • @thomsen256
    @thomsen256 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +338

    I think Patreon members want to support you and your current content but I think most of them would be happy for you to produce whatever high quality content feels right. You're the star.

    • @DannehBoi90
      @DannehBoi90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm not a Patreon of Josh, but I am one of two other creators. If either of them decided to make a donation to something related to the field they have most interest in because they want to support some fun, I'd be 100% behind it. There also is always the option of adding a Donation link somewhere, like in a Twitch command or in a video's description, that's all for raising funds for something you believe in.

  • @Mlyodas
    @Mlyodas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Ironically, this was the best advertisement to his patreon.

  • @0cellusDS
    @0cellusDS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Astrology fan: "I wonder which planet is making me sad."
    Me: "Earth!"

  • @MrArchimondde
    @MrArchimondde 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    „Can you be an egotistical altruist?”
    -MrBeast enters the stage

  • @Xanthelei
    @Xanthelei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    11:12 "People are paying for you not to take a certain action" - Viza, explaining how Josh's Patreon is actually a protection racket

    • @Alresu
      @Alresu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A nice little phone game ad free channel you have there. Would be a shame if someone had to... sponsor it...

  • @MrGelowe
    @MrGelowe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Some people get pleasure from the act of helping another. So technically speaking they are being selfish. But main question is whether being selfish a bad thing and whether all selfishness is the same. And the answer is probably no to both questions. For example if I want to be selfish by wanting to breath fresh and clean air, nothing wrong with that kind of selfishness. Alternatively you can be selfish by only having clean air for yourself while ruining it for others, that type of selfishness is bad.

    • @x3TripleAce3x
      @x3TripleAce3x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Giving help and receiving recognition makes it a transaction, so it's not altruistic. Doesn't make it bad just makes it different.

    • @Creepernom
      @Creepernom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@x3TripleAce3xthat's just a silly definition of altruism. If I help out a charity with my labour and they thank me for it, is it not altruistic behaviour because I wasn't completely anonymous, and thus recieved "recognition" for my help?
      If it's completely unattainable, then it's also a completely useless definition.

    • @ahouyearno
      @ahouyearno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something can be two things at the same time. In this case it would be both altruistic and selfish and that’s fine

  • @christaylor7079
    @christaylor7079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +256

    Wake up babe, a new Strife Hayes video just dropped

    • @Azlorn
      @Azlorn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I'm waking up my gf right now! She's like wtf is going on!!!

    • @zerooskil7161
      @zerooskil7161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Comment for me im literally waking up 🤣

    • @blushingralseiuwu2222
      @blushingralseiuwu2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes dear....

    • @Torguish
      @Torguish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Honey i know, already on my 2nd monitor.

    • @remondx8880
      @remondx8880 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hunk Strife Hayes

  • @Bankosek
    @Bankosek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    a clip channel that makes ~30 minute clips, this could only be Josh

  • @Mediados
    @Mediados 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Ultimately there is not much wrong with wanting to be recognized after doing something good. You shouldn't be angry or insulted if you don't, but it is still a good thing. If 10 rich egoists would help people for the glory, the world would already be better.

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not true at all, because they start making problems eventually to be fixed.
      In fact there was an issue where companies polluted more by polluting less. Companies are often responsible for 70% or more of pollution be it waste or other things. They will often reduce one aspect by 20% but raise something else by that 20%.
      So if you have 70-20+20 you end up with 70. They get praised for doing well only to turn out they are in reality being praised for lying.

  • @Joe-it2dh
    @Joe-it2dh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    As long as the content is NOT interrupted, the service people are paying you for, then do whatever you want with your money, its your money that you earned by way of your content. Your boss shouldnt complain about what you do on the weekend, as long as it doesnt impact your job. I highly recommend the Asmon route of investing it until you have enough that you can fund everything you want without it impacting your security.

  • @Awlerr
    @Awlerr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    Daily dose of Josh ✅

    • @iamcerealman102
      @iamcerealman102 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Saint Joshua of Runescape 🙏

  • @jeloxale
    @jeloxale 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Imagine if all companies were as real as Josh is. Customers would be able to tell quality products more easily, which would mean only the ones who actually believe in their product would survive.Josh is truly one of the spokesmen of time.

    • @UriGerhard
      @UriGerhard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Unfortunately, being real is the opposite of profitable

    • @pyramear5414
      @pyramear5414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Being real is not the opposite of profitable, it just isn't the *most* profitable. Some people are too greedy to life a comfortable and honest life, they demand exorbitant levels of wealth.

    • @swordzanderson5352
      @swordzanderson5352 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pyramear5414 It is, it just isn't short-term. But if people continue to chase fashion and trends, brands that are hollow and scammy continue prospering. Which companies? *_I_* wouldn't know. :)

  • @pikmints
    @pikmints 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    "Maybe i have an old school way of looking at things"
    Yeah, it does seem like relying on merit and integrity to succeed is becoming less common. Both in terms of companies' priorities as well as consumers'.

    • @Hotshot2k4
      @Hotshot2k4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Gotta disagree on the note of consumers. Consumers are becoming more and more jaded and distrustful - or at least I am, and it's what I observe around me, but I guess I can't speak for everyone. At this point it is only unpaid word of mouth that I trust when it comes to buying anything over $100 or so, or youtubers whom I've watched for a long time and who have demonstrated integrity. Like I'd have no reservations about buying LTT products if I made more money, because I know even if something goes wrong, that they'll make it right.
      My opinion of companies or products literally lowers when I see their advertisements, and are only raised up when I hear someone speak positively of them without being paid to do so. Similarly, the kind of sponsorships I see youtubers hawk has a big impact on how much I'd trust the things they say outside of those sponsorships. Integrity matters to me, because the only vote I have when it comes to the consumer world around me is the vote of my wallet. And while mine is just is a drop in the ocean, oceans are made up of drops, so we can influence the business practices that succeed by choosing which ones we financially support.

    • @cookies23z
      @cookies23z 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Hotshot2k4 while I think a decent amount of people are like this, to at least some degree... I also think there are a LOT of people tired, who cant/dont give a shit anymore after how much work was a pain in the ass, and how much X Y Z stressed them out, and they just want to pay 20 dollars to feel ok for a bit, even if it is manipulative bullshit
      At least my take on it, not everyone is savvy, some dont care, some cant manage to care, some do

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't know man. I think this is a bit reductive.

    • @angusmcmillain
      @angusmcmillain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's what people have been saying recently. And throughout all time. I think it's more that they ways people get scammed change, not increase.

    • @TheDoomBlueShell
      @TheDoomBlueShell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sadly this don't mean your company will grow or even survive, like one of the best oil paints company in my country closed up because they thought that these two things are enough so they never gave money on marketing or used influencers, so people only knew they were good by word of mouth but oil painting being niche and most people that do being recluses you can bet how this worked out in end...

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "trust is the only long term currency" - Seth Godin

  • @chaosgyro
    @chaosgyro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Once something is given it is given. People have no further claim on what you do with that money after they have willingly decided it is yours.

    • @sephestra.
      @sephestra. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Came here to say this as well. It's the same with gifts.

    • @geofff.3343
      @geofff.3343 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Not in a patron relationship. If someone commissions you to make a painting you can't donate the money to a church for orphans it has to go to making that painting. What you can do is take it out of the money you allot for yourself and give a portion of that.

    • @chaosgyro
      @chaosgyro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@geofff.3343 Just because the service is called "patreon" doesn't mean these folks are patrons. They haven't specifically commissioned him to do any particular job. This is a donation support network not a work contract.

    • @Sniperbear13
      @Sniperbear13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      just to be clear, there are exceptions; mainly in a Business contract sense where you say you will do X. but in the sense of what josh is talking about; yes, he has no obligation to spend the money on anything in particular.

    • @sutirk
      @sutirk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, it's Josh's money
      If he stops making videos or decides to completely change his content and stark making prank videos, a big chunk of his audience will probably decide to stop giving him money
      It's a system that works for both sides, josh won't tell us which monitor we should watch his videos, and we won't tell him what to do with the money

  • @Marwolaeth01
    @Marwolaeth01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I once read a book regarding altruism and whether it exists, as even if you get just a tiny feeling of satisfaction for doing a good deed, then who is to say whether that was the pay off?
    This is why whenever I donate on a friends charity raising event I always try my best to do it incognito. I try to minimize the benefit to myself as much as possible. I do it to help them reach their target, not to show off "how generous I am". I have even stopped myself from donating as much as I wanted to when I realized there was no way to hide the donation from the person who set it up. Philosophy is cruel.

  • @redelfshotthefood8213
    @redelfshotthefood8213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Kindness is a gift to the giver. But it is also a gift to yourself. It’s the basis of civilization.
    This video is the kind of video I subscribed for. I’m not an MMO player. But I enjoy the thoughtfulness and kindness of JSH. A balm.

  • @Frink77
    @Frink77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    That charity stream would be so cool, giving back to your community and helping kids put on the best show possible is more valuable than anyone could imagine, I think. Great content Josh

  • @TheRothphoto
    @TheRothphoto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Feel like people that don’t work for themselves might struggle with this way of thinking but you’re 100% right in your process.

  • @handlesmademeloseauniqename
    @handlesmademeloseauniqename 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Astrology vs astronomy. I let out a verbal YESSSS! when you were on about this. I've made this same observation to my friends before. You're awesome man!

  • @Frostycrypton
    @Frostycrypton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    21:11 The comedic timing of this message cannot be understated.

  • @marshallmarcano6275
    @marshallmarcano6275 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I love what you do and doing this for you and the fans. You are a true GOAT!!!

  • @sarcastictruth9427
    @sarcastictruth9427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thank you for the Diablo Immortal video. You simultaneously saved me from a bad game and introduced me to one of my new favorite long form video makers. Your videos are EXCELLENT!

  • @Ghost101
    @Ghost101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm glad you brought up Vampire Survivors 9:30 because that game, its dlc and soundtrack are worth every penny. I love that game.

  • @the_markoman
    @the_markoman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Josh getting into a moral wrestling match with his own thoughts, while chat are the orphans who don't care as long as they get what they already get xD

  • @RaRaBravura
    @RaRaBravura 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I give TO GIVE. Once the money leaves my hands it’s no longer mine.

  • @ytmandrake
    @ytmandrake 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One does not owe anyone anything, if they GAVE you their money, that money is now yours to do with it as you see fit. The discussion here is about the gift receivers "integrity" and "reputation". If their reputation is tarnished in a way that they don't do with their gift what is expect of them, they will no longer continue to receive gifts. When you stand for a cause, people are willing to "vote with their wallets" to support you to stand for that cause, which you ultimately and seemingly share.

  • @dragons_advocate
    @dragons_advocate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    According to Nietzsche, there is no such thing as selflessness, as everybody has their own reasons to be selfless, and strives to fulfill those reasons as a selfish pursuit.

    • @TheSweetSpirit
      @TheSweetSpirit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      (Talking about Nietzsche) Calling all reasons to be selfless as selfish is missing the nuance. Expecting an outcome that you desire, Wanting recognition, appeasing some higher power or just appeasing their emotions are all different levels of selfishness. Some of those reasons wouldn’t even be seen as selfish by most people.

    • @excalibro8365
      @excalibro8365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheSweetSpirit Because most people think of gains only as in material gains. Now that's missing the nuance.

    • @dragons_advocate
      @dragons_advocate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @TheSweetSpirit it's been 15 years since I read it, and I was oversimplifying, but yeah: that. Thanks for elaborating 👍

  • @Vorzac
    @Vorzac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is possibly my favorite video I've ever seen on TH-cam. Enlightening, thought-provoking and inspirational. Wonderful stuff! thanks for all the Insight, Josh!

    • @JoshStrifeSays
      @JoshStrifeSays  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Glad it was enjoyable, I tried to edit it so it more larger range compared to usually really focused edited clips on the channel where I cut out a lot of the thoughts that deviate from the original topic the video is titled about.
      I'll include more of these conversation-like videos on the channel in the future!
      -Visa, editor.

    • @skorpiongod
      @skorpiongod 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JoshStrifeSaysplease do

  • @Noble1717
    @Noble1717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just found your channel and really been enjoying the talks ya post, thank ya for the content sir

  • @Fata59
    @Fata59 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    It's wild to me to see people bragging about the stuff they've bought from cash shops in mmos nowadays. 15+ years ago we would've called those people idiots and tell them they wasted their money - nowadays they advertise for the corpos for free. It's disgusting.

    • @1IGG
      @1IGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I still call them that, but you have a point, of course.

    • @fisharepeopletoo9653
      @fisharepeopletoo9653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's really not a problem as long as it's purely cosmetics. Call them idiots, but if they enjoy the product they purchased then let the idiots pay. Some people have a lot of money. To some people a $20 cosmetic is mind blowingly expensive, to some $20 is literally nothing. Let the rich and desperate support the ongoing development of the game you enjoy. Don't call them idiots, call them shareholders that don't get anything lol

    • @TheDapperDragon
      @TheDapperDragon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@fisharepeopletoo9653 Right cosmetics are one thing, within reason. But I've seen people bragging about buying literal P2W, and thinking it makes them better. And the old arguments don't help them, because their garbage families failed them:
      'It's like borrowing mommy's Lexus. And whenever someone says 'cool car', you have to tell them 'it's my moms''
      'Well, I'm still IN the car, so I win!'
      It's so stupid and self-obviously wrong, I don't even have an answer.

  • @heatrayzvideo3007
    @heatrayzvideo3007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I was about to send josh a few grand on patreon but I decided not to be selfish.
    I got the money from a dodgy sponsorship I do for Benson & Hedges.
    Also Josh if you read this please finish the mmo history series.

  • @Pointy_Bird
    @Pointy_Bird 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the youtuber advice! It's exactly what I need. "Fail fast, fail hard, fail often"... This applies to everything else in life, too, I find. I feel justified in my approach, and the advice you went more in-depth with will definitely help c:

  • @Dan1loBC
    @Dan1loBC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    18:17 kitycat with the "hes monologing", I love it!

  • @Malkamok
    @Malkamok 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely excellent segment. Thanks for the clip

  • @JohnTheodore
    @JohnTheodore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the way to do it. It's great. Thanks, Josh!

  • @jeremylackey6587
    @jeremylackey6587 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, i love your videos because you come off as such a genuine, good person. And youve always got something insightful to say.

  • @kay5676
    @kay5676 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rooky coming in clutch with the content.

  • @yeturs69420
    @yeturs69420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing i love about you is you ask these questions. Its like the polar oppisite of taking gamling money to push gambling on kids.

  • @nobodyimportant2470
    @nobodyimportant2470 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another part of the shitty practices of playing the customers for short term gains is a court case "Dodge v. Ford Motor Company". Michigan supreme court said that a companies primary concern should be what is best for the share holders rather than what would be good for the employees, customers, and company. Share holders are best served by short term gains spiking the value so they can sell to someone else before the long term consequences hit.

  • @Dotzie90
    @Dotzie90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cherry Bakewell Cocktail sounds amazing, I've been addicted to cherry bakewells for 20+ years

  • @LLynell
    @LLynell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe that Transparency is the biggest key in whether or not to use patrons donations towards other endeavors. If you come out and randomly say, "I used patron funds on XYZ because I wanted to" it can leave a negative impression for the patrons because they may not want their money to support that specific thing. But, if you put it out before hand, "I want to support XYZ financially, can you let me know in your donation message if you're okay with it?" It allows the patron the transparency to give their approval, or disapproval when donating their money to your content.

  • @SirPhysics
    @SirPhysics 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to point out that there is another structural reason companies don't slowly build support by making good products: shareholders are only interested in maximizing short-term profits. If a CEO has to decide "well, I could fill this game with microtransactions that nobody actually wants and make us an extra half a billion dollars this quarter, or I could not do that to build goodwill with the customers" they would be removed from their position if they didn't prioritize immediate returns. Even if it will result in less profit over the long term, shareholders don't care. They aren't going to be there long term. They'll sell their investments and move to another company the minute your growth slows down, let alone stops.
    It's not just that's easier (though it definitely is). That kind of behavior is incentivized by how these companies are set up and managed.

  • @vladibalan
    @vladibalan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    During the whole video, in the upper zone, Riker is getting some kind of massage...

  • @clevershades
    @clevershades 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can confirm.. Most public servants have a pint or 2, or few glasses of wine with lunch during their work day here in Australia.. but also, Winston Churchill was a prodigious drinker and look what he did for his country during (and before) WW2! And when you really look at it, it seems America started a downward trend during Prohibition that never really picked up......

  • @briehart-nutter4357
    @briehart-nutter4357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video finally got me to subscribe because I want nothing more than to hear your voice smile about local theatre

  • @Azrael79a
    @Azrael79a 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Identify as Selflessly Selfish.

  • @boomknight1015
    @boomknight1015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anything can be framed as selfish. You only care about friends because of the benifits they give you. You only help people expecting it to be paid back in some form. Say a good after life.
    Regardless of the reason, a good thing is always a good thing, so long the person isn't doing it with the intent to harm others in an under handed way.

    • @boomknight1015
      @boomknight1015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Personally, when you pay for something and it goes to something the buyer doesn't agree with vs denoting is vary vary different. I'd say 80% of donated money should go right into living expenses or into making better content/making content." the other 20% can be what ever the person wants even if no one agrees. I feel like it's fair for the most amount of people because most of the money went to what they wanted it to go to.

  • @LyricalViking
    @LyricalViking 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My own line of thinking is that even if the act itself is for a selfish reason, the outcome is still altruistic in the sense that you're giving back to a cause that you clearly feel good about helping. Even if it's to make you feel better about yourself, it's still going to a good cause so it's alright. At the end of the day the person that's accepting the donation isn't going to care why you gave them money, they're just going to be happy to have the money.

  • @Booma4142
    @Booma4142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good is good. Enlightened self interest is one of the best ways people can actually use human nature for good.

    • @Sniperbear13
      @Sniperbear13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good and Evil are just concepts Humans created. the reality is there is no true good or evil, just things we labeled as such.

    • @excalibro8365
      @excalibro8365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sniperbear13 Truth. Good and evil are concepts purely based on human feelings, nothing else.

  • @KatieGimple
    @KatieGimple 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your view on sponsorships is something I really appreciate about you, and is why I actually watch all your sponsorships without skipping them. Other people just read off a random script, and I don't know if they actually have anything to do with reality, but every time you've taken a sponsorship what you are saying as part of that is what you actually believe, and is as much a part of the content as everything else.

  • @vroomzoom4206
    @vroomzoom4206 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sponsor: we want to give you money we like your stuff
    Josh: you like my stuff? Name 10 of my videos
    Sponsor: worst mmo ever

  • @michal1743
    @michal1743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the moment you cut it

  • @adamion1993
    @adamion1993 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "You don't understand what you're talking about" guy just got SCHOOLED! I absolutely lived it!😊

  • @dashboots376
    @dashboots376 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want a Patreon goal to be that Josh buys a horse and names it Josh Strife Neighs.

  • @matthewn4896
    @matthewn4896 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's another creator that I really like with a similar philosophy around sponsorships. Their channel has a single sponsorship, with a brand that they had already been using for many years before they got involved with youtube, and said brand gives them complete freedom to promote their products in any manner they see fit. Their stubbon refusal to shill anything they don't, or wouldn't, use themselves is part of the reason I've been a patron of theirs for several years now.

  • @Jan12700
    @Jan12700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:00 Josh is the Guy from the Meme in the businesses room that is kicked out of the window because he says the obvious thing that the bosses don't want to hear xD
    11:30 Fail until you succeed. This is a great concept that I also most of the time do, but it is very time consuming. With YT Videos, especially during the pandemic, a lot of channels popped up that only have a handful of videos or even just one and their videos were really awesome. I don't know how they are doing this, if they just worked so long on just these few videos that they are almost perfect or that they had just a gifted skill for making videos.

  • @martinez206045
    @martinez206045 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:00 I do believe we have a term for that already - selling out :)))

  • @Gormathius
    @Gormathius 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:50 This is the best rule for remembering the difference I've ever heard. I always had the rule that astronomy can get you nominated for a nobel prize, which is much more of a mouthful.

  • @nevisysbryd7450
    @nevisysbryd7450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Taking the sponsorship would not be stupid. It would make your business model gradually become beholden to the sponsors, at which point your control and thus mission are compromised. It is the same trap of taking a company public; as soon as it does, it has sold its integrity and objective to the highest bidder.
    As it currently stands, your business is between you and your audience. Insofar as you care about that or your non-financial goals in this business, taking sponsorships is a Faustian bargain.

  • @coreysayre1376
    @coreysayre1376 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You cannot put a price on goodwill. It almost always works out in the long term that inspiring goodwill within your customers outperforms alternative strategies.
    To generate goodwill in your base, you must do right by them over a long period of time. But once you get to that long term you will have way more than just a customer, you will have a supporter, a recruiter/marketer/advertiser, who will take offense to disinformation and in general someone who will go out of their way to benefit you/your product or service.
    This was written about quite a lot during the early-mid 20th century by people like Napoleon Hill and Dale Carnegie, and when I look back on my life (from both ends of this equation) it has proven to be true. It baffles me to no end, that the opposite approach has taken hold in the corporate world, which by this point is completely oblivious that there actually is another way.

  • @dyrinn45
    @dyrinn45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    After the patrons give you the money, its your money. I support on and off and I think you should use the money however you see fit.

  • @tjsturgess5475
    @tjsturgess5475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Josh, your British humour and mannerisms are spot on. Love it

  • @TheRandomYoYo
    @TheRandomYoYo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stand on the opposite side. Can a person truly ever be altruistic? You can boil it down to such small things. When you help something that is suffering, do you do it from altruism? Or do you do it because that thing's suffering is causing you discomfort? Even if you do help a party purely because you believe it is right, one might claim you do in fact help because you want to be able to perceive yourself as being morally good, even if there are no external witnesses, you yourself are your on witness in this matter. The phrase "doing something to help one sleep at night" comes to mind.

  • @petertodorov5592
    @petertodorov5592 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love watching josh strife says shorts

  • @BenTempest
    @BenTempest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey josh what you talk about at 9:10 fits perfectly for Deep Rock Galactic, you should play it sometimes if you have the time for it

  • @Pers0n97
    @Pers0n97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the topic of Horoscops, I worked for a bit on a fashion magazine and as you can expect we had an horoscope.
    One week we run out of our stock of premade horoscopes, so we just started to reuse horoscopes from a couple of years ago.
    Nobody ever found out.

  • @richardsonrym
    @richardsonrym 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "It's breakfast time somewhere" perfect philosophy

  • @orionfire1947
    @orionfire1947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but who has practiced the same kick 10,000 times." -Bruce Lee
    It is with this outlook that we know we must fail to succeed, without failure there is no growth, and without mistakes there is nothing to learn.
    With that in mind, we have watched you and supported you through that process, and will continue to do so. I feel it's more important that you continue to do what you love to do, and if that means we get higher quality well-produced things as we have been, then so be it, and anyone that wishes to leave will have just missed out on what you make. Glad to have you, Josh.

  • @c3n5i
    @c3n5i 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    regular josh is our premium josh, cause you are the best for us you can be

  • @BALDFURY69
    @BALDFURY69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "What if he uses paper plates? Coward." 😂

  • @Mordshen
    @Mordshen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In a world with little integrity its refreshing to see your content every time Josh.

  • @Kerbezena
    @Kerbezena 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:57 Comic strip
    panel 1: "How can we trick our customers into giving us more money, how can we convince people, where should we put the adverts, how should we make the store smell?"
    panel 2: JSH: "Why don't you just make a GOOD product in a way that people enjoy supporting over a long time period?"
    panel 3: JSH flying out an office skyscraper's window.

  • @Pxinkill
    @Pxinkill 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was like watching a full movie trilogy. So interesting.

  • @Snipfragueur
    @Snipfragueur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By definition, if you take a decision, it is what you decided, and thus it is egoist.

  • @user-yu1mg5lz1v
    @user-yu1mg5lz1v 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unsure if this is related, but: The first part about kids in the orphanage not caring why someone does something reminds me of a dialogue from a mod for Skyrim called "Enderal" (yes). The tldr. of which is that "good" people do "good" things because THEY view THEMSELVES as "good", and THEY feel an obligation to - as opposed to doing "good" things to actually help others.

  • @chickenmonger123
    @chickenmonger123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “They have their reward.”

  • @nevisysbryd7450
    @nevisysbryd7450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who is seriously into astrology-we look at sun sign horoscopes like hardcore full loot pvpers look at Candy Crush microtransactions.

  • @willowbarrelmaker8269
    @willowbarrelmaker8269 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the things to remember about the Barnum statements is that they were initially tested on college kids, so like… you know, it’s important to remember that that specific group does not actually speak for all of humanity, despite how often psychological tests claim it does

  • @kingdomrains
    @kingdomrains 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:08 There is a Buddhist concept called being wisely selfish, the short version is "if you cannot be selfless than you should try to be selfish in a way that benefits others as well as yourself".

  • @RastaMage00
    @RastaMage00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cone on Josh, your Jupiter is in retrograde and you know it.

  • @nobushidono9897
    @nobushidono9897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good thing Kreia taught me that altruism is bad.
    Giving someone something they have not earned is like pouring sand into their hands.

  • @einhasad7
    @einhasad7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    23:42
    Josh: "Rooky, get me back to where we needed to be"
    Rooky: "I also forgot"
    Brilliant!

  • @riotangel4701
    @riotangel4701 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the horoscopes that don't predict your future but insult you for the nasty horrible personality traits you'd possess.

  • @Raven3557
    @Raven3557 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "What is it all about?"
    I totally forgot what the video was about I just love to hear you speak and tell stories

  • @probablythedm1669
    @probablythedm1669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel that "I want something nice and sweet when I'm out to drink."
    I was out with a bunch of the women at work this week and while they all had beer, cider, wine or champagne... and there I was, one old "you look like you listen to interesting music"-dude with long hair and a beard, with my hard Oreo milkshake (5 cl of booze in it) because it seemed tasty.
    I got at least one very judgemental look and comment from another man at the bar about my choice of drink. It's fine, we talked and even gave each other a handshake hug when I left the bar.
    Nice guy, actually, I think he just had an initial impression of me that I was at the bar to look down on the people trying to enjoy their innebriation. But I was already drunk when I got there and just needed to maintain the buzz in a tasty way.
    I mean think about it. I can buy beer or bottled drinks and enjoy them in the comfort of my home, where I pick the music, the company, the food, the snacks, all of it.
    So if I go to a bar I want mixed drinks made by a bartender, because that I cannot get at home! That is worth paying extra, giving up some control and comfort, and accepting some loud people I don't know for. 😁

  • @Caltato
    @Caltato 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy called himself altruistic: he would lend money to friends in need and then expected his friends to somehow show how grateful and indebted they felt to him and would start drama if the friends didn't meet his expectations; eventually the friends just paid off the money and blocked the guy at least never talked to him again. I'm sure the orphans don't care where the money came from, but the friends didn't think it was worth the hassle.
    I guess the moral of the story is that no one can come to a conclusion because not all situations are the same.
    Either way, thank you for your content, and thank you for putting yourself and your fans first, we appreciate it!

  • @ethanmendiola3070
    @ethanmendiola3070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “But you lose money being snappy and quick with sponsors”
    The term “Dirty Money” would be applicable here.

  • @steamyrobotlove
    @steamyrobotlove 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am so surprised the dev of Vampire Survivors, poncle, offered they’re game for so cheap. It is one of the best games I played last year, and I still continue to boot it up for a 30 minute run. Or several failed runs! I love that game! Thanks, poncle!!

  • @toter80
    @toter80 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think you're holding yourself to a standard no one else is holding you to. There is a balance that can be had with having sponsorships and not taking ones that could be hurtful to the audience. As long as you maintain this balance, you can grow while also being able to achieve some of your long-term goals.

  • @Aisaaax
    @Aisaaax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would argue that a human never does anything selflessly. Everything is selfish. You either do things for direct benefit (to be paid/loved/praised/have friends/receive reciprocation/not get hurt/etc.) or internal benefit (to feel positive emotions or avoid negative ones).
    People who do charity anonymously do that because they get to feel good about themselves. Not because others need help so you have to act - no. It's to feel good.
    People who sacrifice their life and jump in front of the bullet - are making an impulsive decision in which they try and avoid neggative emotion of seeing someone shot.
    I know many people will disagree with me because believing in a fairy tale is much more comforting. But deep down you too know.
    The important bit, though, is that orphans truly don't care. 😮

  • @LykosMenon
    @LykosMenon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a patreon for a while now, this video convinced me to up my patreon even more. Never change, you beautiful man.

  • @MarcinObuchowski
    @MarcinObuchowski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mister Strife they day you fall, I start drinking (so hopefuly never!)

  • @VanadamYT
    @VanadamYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pragmatic with values. treading this ground myself atm josh same conundrum; do i take then sponsor to reinvest in the channel. always comes down to 1 thing. what will the supports feel like. what is the long term damage to my community. this resonates very well.... albeit on a much smaller scale for me haha

  • @AlucardNoir
    @AlucardNoir 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Doubt Josh will ever read this but I did in fact unsubscribe from several TH-camrs I used to watch because they uploaded videos that were 1/3 sponsor spot. At that point I felt like I was no longer watching an education TH-camr but a shill for a product that made what he though was the bare minimum for a video just so he could put the sponsor spot in. And no, I'm not counting you as an education TH-camr, I'm just saying that at least one of the guys I unsubscribed from was in that category and made a 1/3 ad read video.

    • @JoshStrifeHayes
      @JoshStrifeHayes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I try to read every comment :)

  • @djr-crowe
    @djr-crowe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't think that patronage is about *what* you do with the money. A patron supports an artist. The end.

  • @SweetLuups
    @SweetLuups 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gotta go give Josh money now