Having unlimited Sleep, Shadow Tag, Genesect and other known broken shit around for a few days every generation is good as a reminder for everyone WHY that shit is broken. Maybe its better to do that in the last week of a meta so everybody understands before the new meta starts.
I really, really wish it dropped back down and could be a top tier UU pick, instead of being stuck in OU where it really doesn't belong - it has usage ratings equal to some UU pokemon, and I don't understand why it's still there.
@Ari Bakke I wouldn't be watching this video if I had any authority to answer this definitively, but I would imagine Bisharp is a victim of being too good for UU but average in OU
@Ari Bakke it would be uubl if it weren't enough for OU, which is not the case. Uubl marks pokemon that can't stay in one tier that are not up to snuff in the higher tier due to balancing reasons, whereas bisharp is just too good to be in UU and lands as a middle of the road OU mon ( In my opinion and understanding)
Its honestly funny how of all the Pokemon that remained from the beginning all the way to the end, it just had to be Dragapult. And to think the only thing that keeps it from leaving the tier is actual Physical Ghost Stab
I never understood why dragapult was so good. Its fast but its attacking stats aren’t that high, gengar seems like the better option for specs shadowball spam.
Congrats on 100k! One thing I would've liked to see is an on-screen timeline throughout the video. Similar to Summoning Salt or other videos covering history like this, I think it would be helpful to have a visual reference to divide up the different eras and to understand how much time passed between events. But great video nonetheless!
42:12 "That's never happened to a cover legendary before" Kyurem-Black, which was literally discussed in the video, was OU up until Gen 8 Which means there's hope for shield dog
I mostly play VGC doubles, but I learned some incredibly weird trivia about Pokemon moves this last generation, including that there are only 6 Special moves that make contact in Gen 8, including Grass Knot and Draining Kiss. I'm not sure if this info will ever be useful again, but it was fun at the time for triggering Weakness Policy and Pickpocket.
It is actually relevant in Singles because it means that Ferrothorn completely stops Calm Mind Tapu Fini even if it doesn't run Power Whip simply because Fini's main mode of healing is with draining Kiss, but the Fairy resist, good defense and pretty low HP and Iron Barbs of Ferrothorn means that Tapu Fini generally loses health upon using Draining Kiss or at least doesn't heal and so if Leftovers are removed (which is very conveniently one of the things Ferrothorn is VERY good at with it's Knock Off) that means that Ferrothorn is going to win, Leech Seed is just the nail in the coffin. I mean yes, Ferrothorn has a type advantage from both types on Tapu Fini but still, Calm Mind Tapu Fini is a very very dangerous threat for defensive mons normally and one that can easily cheese through even really sturdy checks like Toxapex if it doesn't run haze and/or Toxic, so having an ironclad (pun intended) answer is really relevant and the interaction of Draining Kiss activating Iron Barb is really crucial to that
You know the power creep is insane when the generation’s mechanic gets sent to AG, the highest banlist of them all. The banlist created in response to Mega Rayquaza being so OP that not even Ubers, the banlist that existed from the beginning to contain monsters like Mewtwo, the Weather Trio, Garchomp, and Wobuffet.
CONGRATULATIONS ON 100k!!! I’ve been here since the beginning of you hitting the algorithm and my what a journey it’s been! I’ve watched every video you’ve uploaded, sometimes more than once, practically all year. Congratulations on the huge accomplishment and here’s to 200k!
One of my fav vids you’ve done - I would love to see more vids like this for other tiers and gens ! Had a really tough day but watching this made me feel so much better. Thank you freezai!
Best moment is SwSh to me was Pre-Home, with many unique Pokémon having legit viability like Seismitoad, Sigilyph and Sylveon (say usage over Clef something due to Sub NP Hydreigon with Flash Cannon) as well as new mons like Obstagoon and Toxtricity actually finding a place in the eta. Worst moment in SwSh was def Post-Home due to Wishport Clefable being so damn oppressive
I thought Grassy Glide wasn't added until the Isle of Armor update as part of the move tutor that also added moves like Flip Turn, Triple Axle, Scorching Sand, and Meteor Beam. So Rillaboom wouldn't have been abusing it as soon as it got Grassy Surge.
About zamazenta suspect test, i find interesting how it wasnt the first cover legendary (and no, it wasnt kyurem-black either) to be suspect tested to OU. In gen 4 before HGSS Ho-oH found itself in the same situation. At the time Ho-oh didnt have Brave Bird and without regenerator it wasnt as crazy a suspect as it may sound now. The sheer stats made it a premium Calm Mind sweeper in the suspect test... And sacred fire is great now and was great then.
Oh this is gonna be goooood video I can feel it (I haven’t started I’m just excited a video like this exists I was just thinking about it the other day)
The crazy part about Zamazenta-Crowned is that it rebounded in usage in SS Ubers because of how it checked some of the more popular Pokémon there, like Yveltal and Weavile.
Very nice video. One thing that would interest me is if there were some famous teams on the generation in tournaments or highest ladder. Blimax has a format called the strongest teams in ss ou where he talked about populartournament teams he liked and he has other videos with such teams as well.
Great vid. I know it's your standard soundtrack for informational vids, but I'd strongly suggest using a longer playlist for a 50 minute video. Listening to the same song on loop got pretty grating, distracting me from an otherwise excellent history
8:49 Damn, my man Ojama spitting straight fax. Same shit with nat dex, I actually had a mod go on a condescending rant about how Showdown is meant to be as close to the game as possible, except when it's not, but he sure thought it was in the context of "No, no nat dex doubles I hate nat dex it's not game". Picking and choosing is fucking weird, they unironically wanted to change Freeze but when someone wants to play doubles with Oricorio then suddenly Showdown is sacred and cannot be changed to deviate from the games.
42:15 "a cover legendary has never dropped to OU" Kyurem Black says hi and also he's very upset you forgot about him like 5 minutes after mentioning him.
@@martinwilches6583 True, though that one's a weird case what with Suicune being the only cover legendary that also has a base stat total below 600. Makes sense why it could never really cut it in ubers.
I played all formats but mostly AG, and it went so hard. Slurpuff regileki and butterfree all went crazy it was by far my favorite meta of all time (although I am biased bc I was top 100 at one point)
@@heebashahbaz you didn’t need quagsire though I certainly used it for a while, if you just played well you could one shot zacian with a handful of different mons, or beat it with dusk-mane. Yveltal was best in tier, you could get away with any item and it would be good. Band, scarf, specs, boots, vest, orb, it was beautiful. Assault vest heat wave oblivion wing dark pulse and either knock off or sucker punch, at any time you could dynamax, max airstream twice, and boom you win.
Love that Mandibuzz was barely holding the metagame together for a good half a year between the start of Isle of Armor up to when Spectrier was banned
Mandibuzz: the hero we dont deserved, but the one we needed
mandibuzz is the goat flying type and im so sad it's not in sv
@@rainyglow They've got Rufflet but no Vullaby, eh?
@@diegoxavier9107 hisuian mandibuzz when 😭
Now Spectrier has to face the big brother, Yveltal
Freezai Cinematic Universe begins now
Fcu
The light time line has been restored…
Now?
Hopefully
Amem brother, amem
Having unlimited Sleep, Shadow Tag, Genesect and other known broken shit around for a few days every generation is good as a reminder for everyone WHY that shit is broken. Maybe its better to do that in the last week of a meta so everybody understands before the new meta starts.
Considering how long chi yu was in the tier they are rarely fast even when its obvious
And now we just ban inflicting sleep lol
@@addchannelname2052not even the problematic move. Just sleep in general. Because fuck you spore users
people aren't playing the last week though
I loved how Bisharp stayed the entire last half+ of gen 8 in OU despite Melmetal being that controvertial and stayed OU leaving UBERs all the time.
I really, really wish it dropped back down and could be a top tier UU pick, instead of being stuck in OU where it really doesn't belong - it has usage ratings equal to some UU pokemon, and I don't understand why it's still there.
@Ari Bakke I wouldn't be watching this video if I had any authority to answer this definitively, but I would imagine Bisharp is a victim of being too good for UU but average in OU
@@wyatthepner203 Then it'd be UUBL. It's not because of an anomaly.
@Ari Bakke it would be uubl if it weren't enough for OU, which is not the case. Uubl marks pokemon that can't stay in one tier that are not up to snuff in the higher tier due to balancing reasons, whereas bisharp is just too good to be in UU and lands as a middle of the road OU mon ( In my opinion and understanding)
@@wyatthepner203 Yes, but according to Pikalytics, its usage rating is quite low for an OU mon.
Week 1:Dragapult is killing everything
Week 2:Dragapult is killing everything
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End of the first year: Dragapult is still killing everything
End of the generation : "Dragapult still killed everything" -doomer Wojack
Its honestly funny how of all the Pokemon that remained from the beginning all the way to the end, it just had to be Dragapult. And to think the only thing that keeps it from leaving the tier is actual Physical Ghost Stab
Gen 9 meta: Dragapult is still killing everything
@@butteredsalmonella give it shadow claw and the world will be destroyed
I never understood why dragapult was so good. Its fast but its attacking stats aren’t that high, gengar seems like the better option for specs shadowball spam.
6:35 i love how this scene is talking about “overpowered strategies” whilst showing Mazar, who used a very certain overpowered strategy you could say
Such a great overpowered strategy maker, I hope he doesn’t turn out to be someone who uses unfair exploits to get perfect counters
I mean, that's why Mazar is being shown.
This Mazary dude looks pretty good at predicting his opponent's teambuilding!
Seems like a genuine player
Congrats on 100k! One thing I would've liked to see is an on-screen timeline throughout the video. Similar to Summoning Salt or other videos covering history like this, I think it would be helpful to have a visual reference to divide up the different eras and to understand how much time passed between events. But great video nonetheless!
Early Crown Tundra was my fav meta with genesect running rampant. Makes me wish for an OUBL tier
Ubers is the ou banlist. What is the point of OUBL
@@Seinsmelled using mons banned from ou but not used enough to be considered ubers, like genesect or cinderace
@@valen0276 wdym using mons banned from ou but not good enough to be used in Ubers? there's no playable bl tier
That’s… why they said they wish there was one
@@Seinsmelled there is no bl tier, thats why they are asking for one
Finally got around to this video, somehow exceeded my expectations - keep it up freezai!
42:12 "That's never happened to a cover legendary before"
Kyurem-Black, which was literally discussed in the video, was OU up until Gen 8
Which means there's hope for shield dog
Guess which doggo has dropped into OU!
...and its real good
...and crowned got banned
Guess who got a buff and shot up the rankings!
Congratulations on 100k and thanks for having me 🎉🎉🎉
I mostly play VGC doubles, but I learned some incredibly weird trivia about Pokemon moves this last generation, including that there are only 6 Special moves that make contact in Gen 8, including Grass Knot and Draining Kiss. I'm not sure if this info will ever be useful again, but it was fun at the time for triggering Weakness Policy and Pickpocket.
It is actually relevant in Singles because it means that Ferrothorn completely stops Calm Mind Tapu Fini even if it doesn't run Power Whip simply because Fini's main mode of healing is with draining Kiss, but the Fairy resist, good defense and pretty low HP and Iron Barbs of Ferrothorn means that Tapu Fini generally loses health upon using Draining Kiss or at least doesn't heal and so if Leftovers are removed (which is very conveniently one of the things Ferrothorn is VERY good at with it's Knock Off) that means that Ferrothorn is going to win, Leech Seed is just the nail in the coffin.
I mean yes, Ferrothorn has a type advantage from both types on Tapu Fini but still, Calm Mind Tapu Fini is a very very dangerous threat for defensive mons normally and one that can easily cheese through even really sturdy checks like Toxapex if it doesn't run haze and/or Toxic, so having an ironclad (pun intended) answer is really relevant and the interaction of Draining Kiss activating Iron Barb is really crucial to that
Any viable move making contact will always be important in any metagame with Ferrothorn or Garchomp
Haven't finished watching the video yet, but can already tell this is an incredible video
You know the power creep is insane when the generation’s mechanic gets sent to AG, the highest banlist of them all. The banlist created in response to Mega Rayquaza being so OP that not even Ubers, the banlist that existed from the beginning to contain monsters like Mewtwo, the Weather Trio, Garchomp, and Wobuffet.
I wish there was one of these for every generation.
That was a good watch!
I think BKC does one for gen 5 and 4.
@@Polostick his lack of scrips and shitty reading skill makes it a difficult watch.
Just watch every video of FalseSwipe and you can piece together the story of all generations
42:06 "that's never happened to a cover legendary before"
Yes it has. Kyurem-B was OU in BW2
CONGRATULATIONS ON 100k!!!
I’ve been here since the beginning of you hitting the algorithm and my what a journey it’s been! I’ve watched every video you’ve uploaded, sometimes more than once, practically all year.
Congratulations on the huge accomplishment and here’s to 200k!
Congrats on 100k you’ve earned it! And thanks for another great video!
One of my fav vids you’ve done - I would love to see more vids like this for other tiers and gens ! Had a really tough day but watching this made me feel so much better. Thank you freezai!
42:13 the kyurem-black mentioned earlier in the video was a cover legendary legal in standard play for like gens 5,6,7
This video is a great concept, glad you made this.
This was an amazing video, thank you for always putting out insanely high quality content. I’m as happy as you are with how this turned out.
Best moment is SwSh to me was Pre-Home, with many unique Pokémon having legit viability like Seismitoad, Sigilyph and Sylveon (say usage over Clef something due to Sub NP Hydreigon with Flash Cannon) as well as new mons like Obstagoon and Toxtricity actually finding a place in the eta.
Worst moment in SwSh was def Post-Home due to Wishport Clefable being so damn oppressive
This was the best OU for team builders since ADV. So many great options to build around with clear benchmarks and few overwhelming threats.
I used eiscue back when zamazenta was being tested because after a belly drum, eiscue 80bp reversal can ohko zamazenta
I thought Grassy Glide wasn't added until the Isle of Armor update as part of the move tutor that also added moves like Flip Turn, Triple Axle, Scorching Sand, and Meteor Beam. So Rillaboom wouldn't have been abusing it as soon as it got Grassy Surge.
It might not have been abusing it as soon as it got grassy surge but it got glide like a week or 2 after getting grassy surge
This is such a great video, thanks for researching and documenting the generation so well. Much love. 💙
"Could Zamazenta be okay in OU? That's never happened to a cover legendary before." Suicune and Kyurem-B are both cover legendaries.
Congrats on 100k, here's to several-hundred-thousand more for Gen 9
what a great video! I played during the beginning of this generation and the way you described it was exactly how i felt it was
I was not expecting this! good video
This feels like a perfect video to end an era. I'm betting freezai is gonna blow up this year with the start of gen 9. 100k is just the start!
I was NOT expecting Freezai Analysis: The Movie
Looking forward to listening to this
This is awesome mate I really enjoyed this longer analysis video.
Yo Freezai, your content is straight up fire, dude. This is a helluva work, loved it! Keep going, man!
You mad lad thanks for the incredible content you put out
This should definitely be a series. Excited to see
more
holy fuck, i was worried because of the lack of uploads, but holy shit, the movie, ur the best
About zamazenta suspect test, i find interesting how it wasnt the first cover legendary (and no, it wasnt kyurem-black either) to be suspect tested to OU. In gen 4 before HGSS Ho-oH found itself in the same situation. At the time Ho-oh didnt have Brave Bird and without regenerator it wasnt as crazy a suspect as it may sound now. The sheer stats made it a premium Calm Mind sweeper in the suspect test... And sacred fire is great now and was great then.
Oh this is gonna be goooood video I can feel it (I haven’t started I’m just excited a video like this exists I was just thinking about it the other day)
False Swipe probably loves that you released this and plans to use it going forward haha
I just watch a hour long video on a tier I have t played since I started in 2021, and don't intend to play. I obviously loved every second of it.
The crazy part about Zamazenta-Crowned is that it rebounded in usage in SS Ubers because of how it checked some of the more popular Pokémon there, like Yveltal and Weavile.
This video must have taken a crazy amount of work. Interesting to hear everything that happened!
Oh man this is great. There's these awesome histories in peoples heads that will muddle and get lost over time if unarchived.
Great Work, Freezai.
50 Minute Video. Insane.
Congrats on 100k and god i miss early sword shield meta. So nostalgic
Very nice video. One thing that would interest me is if there were some famous teams on the generation in tournaments or highest ladder. Blimax has a format called the strongest teams in ss ou where he talked about populartournament teams he liked and he has other videos with such teams as well.
SO MUCH EFFORT INTO THE VIDEO. I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS! KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK. CONGRATS ON 100K
This is fucking awesome! I love long-form content.
congrats on 100k!!
Strapped in and ready for this banger
What an awesome video, thank you for spending the time and effort to make it
Fantastic video, amazing effort, classic
This video is fantastic Freezai, thanks for putting this together for us. Oh, and congrats on 100k!
Hey great vídeo
One of the best on the channel, I would love smt like this for past gens (7 and 6 specially)
I always enjoy your content! Congrats on 100k subscribers!
Love this video so much, I can see the effort it took you and it was entertaining as hell for a person like me who does not know gen8 so well.
Great vid. I know it's your standard soundtrack for informational vids, but I'd strongly suggest using a longer playlist for a 50 minute video. Listening to the same song on loop got pretty grating, distracting me from an otherwise excellent history
What's the name of it?
I love this! I can tell it took a lot to make. Very fun watch
Great video Freezai! Congrats on 100k subs!
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
congrats on 100k subs. i love your videos and this looks like your new magnum opus 😊
This is such an awesome video idea, thank you so much for making it. I know it's going to be good
Excited for this video for gen 9 eventually!
8:49 Damn, my man Ojama spitting straight fax. Same shit with nat dex, I actually had a mod go on a condescending rant about how Showdown is meant to be as close to the game as possible, except when it's not, but he sure thought it was in the context of "No, no nat dex doubles I hate nat dex it's not game". Picking and choosing is fucking weird, they unironically wanted to change Freeze but when someone wants to play doubles with Oricorio then suddenly Showdown is sacred and cannot be changed to deviate from the games.
The "(edit: removed personal attack)" line goes _obscenely_ hard, like unironically
Youre on the cusp of something great here
OH FUCK YEEAAAAHHH!!!!! This is that good content!! I'm gonna end up rewatching this like 15 times I hope you make more for other gens
Gz on 100k
45:04 after all that kings rock bullsht, my man even misses magma storm 😭 ofc he leaves
There are people that still genuinely believe the dex cut was for balancing, even though Zacian was added in the same game.
Congrats on 100k, freezai. Well deserved!
42:15 "a cover legendary has never dropped to OU"
Kyurem Black says hi and also he's very upset you forgot about him like 5 minutes after mentioning him.
Suicune, cover legend in UU
@@martinwilches6583 True, though that one's a weird case what with Suicune being the only cover legendary that also has a base stat total below 600. Makes sense why it could never really cut it in ubers.
Gen 1 cover legends aswell. Articuno is a zu mon with a niche on UU stall teams
@@Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3 Gen 1 has no cover legends.
@@Doc_Fun oh right i forgor
Yo love you Freezai, been watching you since your LC videos back in may, amazing video, and congratulations on 100k!!
Going to enjoy watching this video. :)
You did it - 100K!! Well deserved
You know calling smogon an entity makes it sound very ominous
Looks like we got our own pokemon history channel
Great job, very informative!!
Having fun with gen 9 showdown with no tiers, just got a screenshot of delibird in OU.
Lets goooooo! What a video to celebrate gen 8, and more importantly. FREEZAI HIT 100K!!!!
hard earned 100k subs. Gratz my Dude !
Really informative and great video!
Congrats on 100k subs!
Congrats on the 100k, freez
Really good video dude. I just found you out last month and I’m hooked. And I don’t even play competitive I’m a shiny hunter XD
14:39 Gen 5 OU council: “this sign won’t stop me because I can’t read!”
"a cover legendary has never dropped to OU before" *Kyurem-B sweats nervously*
I love that. Not only under the preservation aspect!
Yoooo congrats for the 100k!!
100k subs! Congrats freezai!
This was like a movie great job :)
I played all formats but mostly AG, and it went so hard. Slurpuff regileki and butterfree all went crazy it was by far my favorite meta of all time (although I am biased bc I was top 100 at one point)
quag and yveltal in ur team just not to insta lose to some specific mons. (yvel was good in general
don't forget ditto
@@heebashahbaz ditto was really funny too yeah, but a little overshadowed by the lack of species clause
@@heebashahbaz you didn’t need quagsire though I certainly used it for a while, if you just played well you could one shot zacian with a handful of different mons, or beat it with dusk-mane. Yveltal was best in tier, you could get away with any item and it would be good. Band, scarf, specs, boots, vest, orb, it was beautiful. Assault vest heat wave oblivion wing dark pulse and either knock off or sucker punch, at any time you could dynamax, max airstream twice, and boom you win.
Congratulations on the 100K!
happy 100k bro
Thank you Mr Fish
congratulations on 100k subscribers
Love your content!
Congrats on 100k
U deserve it
Congratulations on 100k subs! You really earned it!