The Complete History of Generation 8 Competitive Pokemon (Singles)

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  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1638

    Love that Mandibuzz was barely holding the metagame together for a good half a year between the start of Isle of Armor up to when Spectrier was banned

    • @The_Moodi
      @The_Moodi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      Mandibuzz: the hero we dont deserved, but the one we needed

    • @rainyglow
      @rainyglow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      mandibuzz is the goat flying type and im so sad it's not in sv

    • @diegoxavier9107
      @diegoxavier9107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@rainyglow They've got Rufflet but no Vullaby, eh?

    • @Expialadociouss
      @Expialadociouss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@diegoxavier9107 hisuian mandibuzz when 😭

    • @cyanmarker8386
      @cyanmarker8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Now Spectrier has to face the big brother, Yveltal

  • @Victini0510
    @Victini0510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1331

    Freezai Cinematic Universe begins now

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    Having unlimited Sleep, Shadow Tag, Genesect and other known broken shit around for a few days every generation is good as a reminder for everyone WHY that shit is broken. Maybe its better to do that in the last week of a meta so everybody understands before the new meta starts.

    • @YOSSARIAN313
      @YOSSARIAN313 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Considering how long chi yu was in the tier they are rarely fast even when its obvious

    • @addchannelname2052
      @addchannelname2052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And now we just ban inflicting sleep lol

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@addchannelname2052not even the problematic move. Just sleep in general. Because fuck you spore users

    • @clarambrosia9834
      @clarambrosia9834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      people aren't playing the last week though

  • @burbotime
    @burbotime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    42:12 "That's never happened to a cover legendary before"
    Kyurem-Black, which was literally discussed in the video, was OU up until Gen 8
    Which means there's hope for shield dog

    • @chevairelame
      @chevairelame ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Guess which doggo has dropped into OU!

    • @thememehead
      @thememehead ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ...and its real good

    • @GhoulishCard1319
      @GhoulishCard1319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...and crowned got banned

    • @crunchytoast6007
      @crunchytoast6007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Guess who got a buff and shot up the rankings!

  • @bbq4005
    @bbq4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +745

    Week 1:Dragapult is killing everything
    Week 2:Dragapult is killing everything
    .
    .
    .
    End of the first year: Dragapult is still killing everything

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      End of the generation : "Dragapult still killed everything" -doomer Wojack

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Its honestly funny how of all the Pokemon that remained from the beginning all the way to the end, it just had to be Dragapult. And to think the only thing that keeps it from leaving the tier is actual Physical Ghost Stab

    • @senny-
      @senny- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Gen 9 meta: Dragapult is still killing everything

    • @Expialadociouss
      @Expialadociouss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@butteredsalmonella give it shadow claw and the world will be destroyed

    • @DubuyuW
      @DubuyuW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I never understood why dragapult was so good. Its fast but its attacking stats aren’t that high, gengar seems like the better option for specs shadowball spam.

  • @supremeoverlordfallen5
    @supremeoverlordfallen5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    I loved how Bisharp stayed the entire last half+ of gen 8 in OU despite Melmetal being that controvertial and stayed OU leaving UBERs all the time.

    • @DraculOkeanos
      @DraculOkeanos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I really, really wish it dropped back down and could be a top tier UU pick, instead of being stuck in OU where it really doesn't belong - it has usage ratings equal to some UU pokemon, and I don't understand why it's still there.

    • @wyatthepner203
      @wyatthepner203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Ari Bakke I wouldn't be watching this video if I had any authority to answer this definitively, but I would imagine Bisharp is a victim of being too good for UU but average in OU

    • @DraculOkeanos
      @DraculOkeanos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@wyatthepner203 Then it'd be UUBL. It's not because of an anomaly.

    • @wyatthepner203
      @wyatthepner203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ari Bakke it would be uubl if it weren't enough for OU, which is not the case. Uubl marks pokemon that can't stay in one tier that are not up to snuff in the higher tier due to balancing reasons, whereas bisharp is just too good to be in UU and lands as a middle of the road OU mon ( In my opinion and understanding)

    • @DraculOkeanos
      @DraculOkeanos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wyatthepner203 Yes, but according to Pikalytics, its usage rating is quite low for an OU mon.

  • @kieranbennett7453
    @kieranbennett7453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    6:35 i love how this scene is talking about “overpowered strategies” whilst showing Mazar, who used a very certain overpowered strategy you could say

    • @Cat-pv6yx
      @Cat-pv6yx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Such a great overpowered strategy maker, I hope he doesn’t turn out to be someone who uses unfair exploits to get perfect counters

    • @SeriousStriker
      @SeriousStriker ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean, that's why Mazar is being shown.

    • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
      @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This Mazary dude looks pretty good at predicting his opponent's teambuilding!
      Seems like a genuine player

  • @venabre
    @venabre ปีที่แล้ว +11

    42:06 "that's never happened to a cover legendary before"
    Yes it has. Kyurem-B was OU in BW2

  • @Inithia
    @Inithia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    Early Crown Tundra was my fav meta with genesect running rampant. Makes me wish for an OUBL tier

    • @Seinsmelled
      @Seinsmelled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ubers is the ou banlist. What is the point of OUBL

    • @valen0276
      @valen0276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@Seinsmelled using mons banned from ou but not used enough to be considered ubers, like genesect or cinderace

    • @Seinsmelled
      @Seinsmelled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@valen0276 wdym using mons banned from ou but not good enough to be used in Ubers? there's no playable bl tier

    • @doobi6343
      @doobi6343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      That’s… why they said they wish there was one

    • @valen0276
      @valen0276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Seinsmelled there is no bl tier, thats why they are asking for one

  • @unlimitedwill
    @unlimitedwill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Congrats on 100k! One thing I would've liked to see is an on-screen timeline throughout the video. Similar to Summoning Salt or other videos covering history like this, I think it would be helpful to have a visual reference to divide up the different eras and to understand how much time passed between events. But great video nonetheless!

  • @josidfin
    @josidfin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Congratulations on 100k and thanks for having me 🎉🎉🎉

  • @NathanLikesChicken
    @NathanLikesChicken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Finally got around to this video, somehow exceeded my expectations - keep it up freezai!

  • @SceptileScythe
    @SceptileScythe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    42:13 the kyurem-black mentioned earlier in the video was a cover legendary legal in standard play for like gens 5,6,7

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You know the power creep is insane when the generation’s mechanic gets sent to AG, the highest banlist of them all. The banlist created in response to Mega Rayquaza being so OP that not even Ubers, the banlist that existed from the beginning to contain monsters like Mewtwo, the Weather Trio, Garchomp, and Wobuffet.

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I mostly play VGC doubles, but I learned some incredibly weird trivia about Pokemon moves this last generation, including that there are only 6 Special moves that make contact in Gen 8, including Grass Knot and Draining Kiss. I'm not sure if this info will ever be useful again, but it was fun at the time for triggering Weakness Policy and Pickpocket.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It is actually relevant in Singles because it means that Ferrothorn completely stops Calm Mind Tapu Fini even if it doesn't run Power Whip simply because Fini's main mode of healing is with draining Kiss, but the Fairy resist, good defense and pretty low HP and Iron Barbs of Ferrothorn means that Tapu Fini generally loses health upon using Draining Kiss or at least doesn't heal and so if Leftovers are removed (which is very conveniently one of the things Ferrothorn is VERY good at with it's Knock Off) that means that Ferrothorn is going to win, Leech Seed is just the nail in the coffin.
      I mean yes, Ferrothorn has a type advantage from both types on Tapu Fini but still, Calm Mind Tapu Fini is a very very dangerous threat for defensive mons normally and one that can easily cheese through even really sturdy checks like Toxapex if it doesn't run haze and/or Toxic, so having an ironclad (pun intended) answer is really relevant and the interaction of Draining Kiss activating Iron Barb is really crucial to that

    • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
      @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Any viable move making contact will always be important in any metagame with Ferrothorn or Garchomp

  • @leavemealone8534
    @leavemealone8534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I used eiscue back when zamazenta was being tested because after a belly drum, eiscue 80bp reversal can ohko zamazenta

  • @lillithplays6514
    @lillithplays6514 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Could Zamazenta be okay in OU? That's never happened to a cover legendary before." Suicune and Kyurem-B are both cover legendaries.

  • @FlyingPichu
    @FlyingPichu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Haven't finished watching the video yet, but can already tell this is an incredible video

  • @SpectreXS
    @SpectreXS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I wish there was one of these for every generation.
    That was a good watch!

    • @Polostick
      @Polostick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think BKC does one for gen 5 and 4.

    • @antlerman7644
      @antlerman7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Polostick his lack of scrips and shitty reading skill makes it a difficult watch.

    • @Siscon92
      @Siscon92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Just watch every video of FalseSwipe and you can piece together the story of all generations

  • @killerkane747
    @killerkane747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Congrats on 100k you’ve earned it! And thanks for another great video!

  • @original_shmirko_account
    @original_shmirko_account 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Best moment is SwSh to me was Pre-Home, with many unique Pokémon having legit viability like Seismitoad, Sigilyph and Sylveon (say usage over Clef something due to Sub NP Hydreigon with Flash Cannon) as well as new mons like Obstagoon and Toxtricity actually finding a place in the eta.
    Worst moment in SwSh was def Post-Home due to Wishport Clefable being so damn oppressive

  • @JaysonUbo
    @JaysonUbo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    CONGRATULATIONS ON 100k!!!
    I’ve been here since the beginning of you hitting the algorithm and my what a journey it’s been! I’ve watched every video you’ve uploaded, sometimes more than once, practically all year.
    Congratulations on the huge accomplishment and here’s to 200k!

  • @mettatonex7221
    @mettatonex7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I thought Grassy Glide wasn't added until the Isle of Armor update as part of the move tutor that also added moves like Flip Turn, Triple Axle, Scorching Sand, and Meteor Beam. So Rillaboom wouldn't have been abusing it as soon as it got Grassy Surge.

    • @Catgirlwalmart
      @Catgirlwalmart 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It might not have been abusing it as soon as it got grassy surge but it got glide like a week or 2 after getting grassy surge

  • @brett1908
    @brett1908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video is a great concept, glad you made this.

  • @Blackvolttage
    @Blackvolttage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    About zamazenta suspect test, i find interesting how it wasnt the first cover legendary (and no, it wasnt kyurem-black either) to be suspect tested to OU. In gen 4 before HGSS Ho-oH found itself in the same situation. At the time Ho-oh didnt have Brave Bird and without regenerator it wasnt as crazy a suspect as it may sound now. The sheer stats made it a premium Calm Mind sweeper in the suspect test... And sacred fire is great now and was great then.

  • @pmahcgop6693
    @pmahcgop6693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was an amazing video, thank you for always putting out insanely high quality content. I’m as happy as you are with how this turned out.

  • @ashbandicoochie
    @ashbandicoochie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my fav vids you’ve done - I would love to see more vids like this for other tiers and gens ! Had a really tough day but watching this made me feel so much better. Thank you freezai!

  • @beaky8138
    @beaky8138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was the best OU for team builders since ADV. So many great options to build around with clear benchmarks and few overwhelming threats.

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:49 Damn, my man Ojama spitting straight fax. Same shit with nat dex, I actually had a mod go on a condescending rant about how Showdown is meant to be as close to the game as possible, except when it's not, but he sure thought it was in the context of "No, no nat dex doubles I hate nat dex it's not game". Picking and choosing is fucking weird, they unironically wanted to change Freeze but when someone wants to play doubles with Oricorio then suddenly Showdown is sacred and cannot be changed to deviate from the games.

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The "(edit: removed personal attack)" line goes _obscenely_ hard, like unironically

  • @GravityIsFalling
    @GravityIsFalling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was not expecting this! good video

  • @PotatoSeb
    @PotatoSeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    45:04 after all that kings rock bullsht, my man even misses magma storm 😭 ofc he leaves

  • @Doc_Fun
    @Doc_Fun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    42:15 "a cover legendary has never dropped to OU"
    Kyurem Black says hi and also he's very upset you forgot about him like 5 minutes after mentioning him.

    • @martinwilches6583
      @martinwilches6583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Suicune, cover legend in UU

    • @Doc_Fun
      @Doc_Fun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinwilches6583 True, though that one's a weird case what with Suicune being the only cover legendary that also has a base stat total below 600. Makes sense why it could never really cut it in ubers.

    • @Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3
      @Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gen 1 cover legends aswell. Articuno is a zu mon with a niche on UU stall teams

    • @Doc_Fun
      @Doc_Fun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3 Gen 1 has no cover legends.

    • @Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3
      @Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Doc_Fun oh right i forgor

  • @punkuin5208
    @punkuin5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Congrats on 100k, here's to several-hundred-thousand more for Gen 9

  • @hyboirds1536
    @hyboirds1536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This feels like a perfect video to end an era. I'm betting freezai is gonna blow up this year with the start of gen 9. 100k is just the start!

  • @lanka2015
    @lanka2015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what a great video! I played during the beginning of this generation and the way you described it was exactly how i felt it was

  • @corydawson5980
    @corydawson5980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is awesome mate I really enjoyed this longer analysis video.

  • @SUBMACHINEGOTH
    @SUBMACHINEGOTH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo Freezai, your content is straight up fire, dude. This is a helluva work, loved it! Keep going, man!

  • @glacierwolf2155
    @glacierwolf2155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The crazy part about Zamazenta-Crowned is that it rebounded in usage in SS Ubers because of how it checked some of the more popular Pokémon there, like Yveltal and Weavile.

  • @AstridCeleste96
    @AstridCeleste96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    False Swipe probably loves that you released this and plans to use it going forward haha

  • @qhillis
    @qhillis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You mad lad thanks for the incredible content you put out

  • @axelrod45-yugiohandmore38
    @axelrod45-yugiohandmore38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    42:12 For the record, Kyurem-Black was OU for years and was the cover legendary of Black 2.

  • @joshk147
    @joshk147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This should definitely be a series. Excited to see
    more

  • @azeria1
    @azeria1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You know calling smogon an entity makes it sound very ominous

  • @LunarWingCloud
    @LunarWingCloud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was NOT expecting Freezai Analysis: The Movie
    Looking forward to listening to this

  • @zememerr2329
    @zememerr2329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:39 Gen 5 OU council: “this sign won’t stop me because I can’t read!”

  • @griffinhatt4669
    @griffinhatt4669 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a great video, thanks for researching and documenting the generation so well. Much love. 💙

  • @Skarmory22
    @Skarmory22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just watch a hour long video on a tier I have t played since I started in 2021, and don't intend to play. I obviously loved every second of it.

  • @The_Big_Jay
    @The_Big_Jay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There are people that still genuinely believe the dex cut was for balancing, even though Zacian was added in the same game.

  • @duncathan_salt
    @duncathan_salt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great vid. I know it's your standard soundtrack for informational vids, but I'd strongly suggest using a longer playlist for a 50 minute video. Listening to the same song on loop got pretty grating, distracting me from an otherwise excellent history

  • @Quicksilvir
    @Quicksilvir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man this is great. There's these awesome histories in peoples heads that will muddle and get lost over time if unarchived.

  • @jammies701
    @jammies701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video, amazing effort, classic

  • @Butterythequagsire
    @Butterythequagsire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    SO MUCH EFFORT INTO THE VIDEO. I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS! KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK. CONGRATS ON 100K

  • @allgemeintoleranz2598
    @allgemeintoleranz2598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Work, Freezai.
    50 Minute Video. Insane.

  • @poppyfrancis7338
    @poppyfrancis7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have a love hate relationship with Smogon, in equal parts due to their understanding of what makes competitive fun, and their occasional weird goof that, while usually small, still leave me scratching my head.

    • @poppyfrancis7338
      @poppyfrancis7338 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gnomefrompinkertonEvery great once in a while they misidentify what is problematic and it limits team building in ways that could be handled better. I call them goofs and not mistakes because they don't ruin their competitive scene or make it worse

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    44:58 - Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe my series

  • @gravityvertigo13579
    @gravityvertigo13579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an awesome video, thank you for spending the time and effort to make it

  • @onestart586
    @onestart586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very nice video. One thing that would interest me is if there were some famous teams on the generation in tournaments or highest ladder. Blimax has a format called the strongest teams in ss ou where he talked about populartournament teams he liked and he has other videos with such teams as well.

  • @Weavileiscool
    @Weavileiscool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why did it take so long for Dracovish to get banned? It was more overpowering than Arena Trap for me.

    • @bigdumber7242
      @bigdumber7242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      People loved Dracovish

    • @martinwilches6583
      @martinwilches6583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cuz funny no switch ins

    • @daltonhatcher5286
      @daltonhatcher5286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's what BKC likes to call "Current Gen Blindness".

  • @Skylark0000
    @Skylark0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congrats on 100k and god i miss early sword shield meta. So nostalgic

  • @meapux
    @meapux 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is fantastic Freezai, thanks for putting this together for us. Oh, and congrats on 100k!

  • @puffywhy89
    @puffywhy89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strapped in and ready for this banger

  • @sixtybuzzer8373
    @sixtybuzzer8373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always enjoy your content! Congrats on 100k subscribers!

  • @choyenwaymouth4448
    @choyenwaymouth4448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this! I can tell it took a lot to make. Very fun watch

  • @Mingha0
    @Mingha0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Having fun with gen 9 showdown with no tiers, just got a screenshot of delibird in OU.

  • @Oscar-ek2jx
    @Oscar-ek2jx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Youre on the cusp of something great here

  • @gnosticares
    @gnosticares 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Freezai! Congrats on 100k subs!

  • @cornholiobunghole1683
    @cornholiobunghole1683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video so much, I can see the effort it took you and it was entertaining as hell for a person like me who does not know gen8 so well.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @pedroqueiroz3476
    @pedroqueiroz3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey great vídeo
    One of the best on the channel, I would love smt like this for past gens (7 and 6 specially)

  • @nielspoulsen6132
    @nielspoulsen6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like we got our own pokemon history channel

  • @brooksyang5834
    @brooksyang5834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly the metagame was more balanced than anything else. Because even things like future sight attackers still means you have mons like slowbro on the team.

    • @pouihurmen
      @pouihurmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Slowbro was on most teams because of Regen + Teleport + Boots, Future Sight was just an afterthought sadly

    • @maagic2031
      @maagic2031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, i want to say that later on offensive teams that wanted future sight just started using G-Slowking. Still a defensive mon, but much less so compared to Slowbro

  • @EricKingOfScots
    @EricKingOfScots ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "a cover legendary has never dropped to OU before" *Kyurem-B sweats nervously*

  • @sephikong8323
    @sephikong8323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:24 : To explain Darmanitan Galar in more detail : OOGA BOOGA, MONKE STRONG

  • @nicholasschmidt2864
    @nicholasschmidt2864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dynamax era: hilarious metagame, DD Moxie Gyarados was killing teams left and right. Dynamax is absolutely 100% broken, and the only counters being your own Dynamax, a faster Pokemon with Substitute, or Ditto is so funny. The reason it took so long to ban Dracovish and Garmanitan was because they weren't even good Dynamaxers. I can't believe it took a month for it to get banned in OU, but I am still RAGING that it's unbanned in Random Battles.
    Pre-Home + Home: honest to god one of the most dogshit unfun metas to ever grace this earth. Wish + Teleport Clef had legit over a 50% usage rate because nothing had the straight up power (after Dracovish and Garm bans) to beat it or its teammates that it was supporting with Wish or even Aromatherapy. Many games, your only win condition was to PP stall Clef. Was pretty funny how Seismitoad was on most teams while the Vish was still around, for not only being Water immune, but pre-Home it was one of the only mons with Stealth Rocks and Toxic. Also there was legitimate concerns that Tyranitar would drop to UU, what a cruel world.
    Isle of Armor: Thank god for guys like Protean Cinderace, Urshifu-SS, and Magearna beating Clefable out of the #1 spot. Other guys like Safeguard Volcarona and Future Sight Slowbro definitely contributed too, but watching that disgusting pink blob take 40% from a resisted Wicked Blow it couldn't protect from was amazing. This was also that era when people found out that residual damage was in a bad place -- you started seeing everything with Rocky Helmet and Knock Off just to get a crumb of residual damage from those accursed Heavy Duty Booties. Unaware Clef with Booties was seen during the dark times, but now you would start seeing it on Hippowdon, Blissey, the Slow twins, and Zeraora. Also, shoutouts to Mandibuzz for rising to top 10 for being one of the only things keeping Urshifu and ghost spam at bay.
    Crown Tundra: banning Spectrier was officially the end of the Mandibuzz arc. This could really be separated into the era of Kyurem, when there was a bunch of banned threats running around, and the post-Kyurem era where nothing really changed except metagame shifts. The meta settled back into an analogue of Gen 7 that was controlled by terrain, Ultra Beasts, Regenerator cores, and the occasional rain team that used Barraskewda instead of Mega Swampert. Was super cool that this was the meta that made Hail as not only viable but potentially one of the strongest weathers.
    Overall thoughts: Dynamax is the worst generational gimmick. Dexit and removing other generation staples like Z moves and Megas could have done so, so much more gracefully. Zacian is the stupidest Pokemon ever designed. Removing Pursuit was dumb and really facilitated the meta-defining Ghost spam we have. I am convinced removing Hidden Power was a lazy way to balance the already unbalanced Dynamax and the meta suffered because of it. Dragapult ruled this meta.

    • @bruceyuchuanyu
      @bruceyuchuanyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait to see tera to be somehow worse 🙂
      Or maybe it wouldn't, I'm just salty

  • @Saltyape0
    @Saltyape0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excited for this video for gen 9 eventually!

  • @nomatyx5789
    @nomatyx5789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is fucking awesome! I love long-form content.

  • @pinnipes
    @pinnipes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    congrats on 100k subs. i love your videos and this looks like your new magnum opus 😊

  • @flyingtaco2001
    @flyingtaco2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh this is gonna be goooood video I can feel it (I haven’t started I’m just excited a video like this exists I was just thinking about it the other day)

  • @miguelceromil
    @miguelceromil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    holy fuck, i was worried because of the lack of uploads, but holy shit, the movie, ur the best

  • @teeweezeven
    @teeweezeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    33:15 Funny how Landorus T is considered one of the strongest pokemon when it's not even the strongest Landorus form.
    (I know why but it is still funny to me)

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure it's actually the strongest. Smogon doesn't ban by raw power just on how difficult is to handle defensively or offensively (Unless you are Toxapex) which makes sense. A lot of overpowered glues will end up being what handles the tier.

  • @megamanzero29
    @megamanzero29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We’ll have to see how valuable protean and libero in gen 9 are due to their nerfs

    • @mello-by
      @mello-by 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They could be good with choice items

  • @philippelamarche12
    @philippelamarche12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really informative and great video!

  • @yxyyyxy
    @yxyyyxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job, very informative!!

  • @milogop3574
    @milogop3574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did it - 100K!! Well deserved

  • @shogunyams
    @shogunyams 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    congrats on 100k!!

  • @elladunham9232
    @elladunham9232 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:15 Arceus is also banned from Ubers in gen 4, this used to be because the simulator used (shoddy I believe it was called) could not accurately the Arceus that was in the games. Arceus was allowed briefly in gen 4 Ubers once smog on moved to showdown which could simulate the Arceus but people decided they liked the meta game without it

  • @singingcrow439
    @singingcrow439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on 100k subs!

  • @persuisixh4804
    @persuisixh4804 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I played all formats but mostly AG, and it went so hard. Slurpuff regileki and butterfree all went crazy it was by far my favorite meta of all time (although I am biased bc I was top 100 at one point)

    • @heebashahbaz
      @heebashahbaz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      quag and yveltal in ur team just not to insta lose to some specific mons. (yvel was good in general

    • @heebashahbaz
      @heebashahbaz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't forget ditto

    • @persuisixh4804
      @persuisixh4804 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@heebashahbaz ditto was really funny too yeah, but a little overshadowed by the lack of species clause

    • @persuisixh4804
      @persuisixh4804 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@heebashahbaz you didn’t need quagsire though I certainly used it for a while, if you just played well you could one shot zacian with a handful of different mons, or beat it with dusk-mane. Yveltal was best in tier, you could get away with any item and it would be good. Band, scarf, specs, boots, vest, orb, it was beautiful. Assault vest heat wave oblivion wing dark pulse and either knock off or sucker punch, at any time you could dynamax, max airstream twice, and boom you win.

  • @pepeelghetto1231
    @pepeelghetto1231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooo congrats for the 100k!!

  • @Sanninsuplex
    @Sanninsuplex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content!

  • @kurogungnir3193
    @kurogungnir3193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such an awesome video idea, thank you so much for making it. I know it's going to be good

  • @SJrad
    @SJrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    34:20 technically zygarde wasnt banned in gen 6. didnt have access to 1000 arrows nor power construct. currectly its UUBL

  • @mimikyuliker946
    @mimikyuliker946 ปีที่แล้ว

    42:10 it has happened before. Kyurem Black was in OU for gens 5-7 before it got good ice stab and dragon dance

  • @nyukjustacommenter857
    @nyukjustacommenter857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:47 shoutout to this chad naming himself after Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers Dungeons and Songs

  • @nimroddafny7125
    @nimroddafny7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:57 it's nice to hear other people hold this opinion. As far as I'm concerned to justify a complex ban (let alone changing game mechanics) the ban in question would need to have a significant positive impact. Sleep isn't common enough to have a significant impact and when it does show up I view its impact as negative due to how much variance it introduces. If the positive impact that dry passing would have is overshadowed by it being a complex ban the negative impact that sleep clause has shouldn't be given a pass.

  • @MrZoblox
    @MrZoblox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    happy 100k bro

  • @anonymousturtle2653
    @anonymousturtle2653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    42:15 i didn't know 130 atk was considered low these days

  • @mxrcx
    @mxrcx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on the 100k, freez

  • @quiche6400
    @quiche6400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo love you Freezai, been watching you since your LC videos back in may, amazing video, and congratulations on 100k!!

  • @Sposchy
    @Sposchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on 100k, freezai. Well deserved!