@@blargghkip E-killer often runs Silk Scarf, yes, but if you're running a different Arceus-Normal set then you might want to run something else, and Arceus-Normal is the only type that can run a different held item. Freezai should have mentioned this.
@@afriendlycampfire260 That might be necessary to keep Arceus relevant come Gen 13 when Miraidon and Zacian have been so powercrept that they're considered D-tier Ubers.
Arceus is such a cool pokemon. you can build an ubers team without it, then you can just slap in an arceus to patch any holes it has. It’s amazing in how versatile it can be
You know, there IS one more form of Arceus, but it's locked behind its signature item in its own game. Yup, I'm talking the Legend Plate which you get once you complete the Hisui Dex and defeat/catch Arceus. Here's what the Legend Plate does: When given to Arceus, it starts as a Normal-Type. The twist is that when using Judgement, Arceus will automatically change its type to whatever is super-effective against the target. I'm just saying...if we have to live with Calyrex-Shadow going Tera Fairy, why not implement the Legend Plate in the mainline games to let Arceus change its type every time it uses Judgement? It might be too much for Ubers, but with Ubers specifically, I say screw order, I want chaos!
@@georgecortes3416 eternamax isn't even playable because if it would be due to a glitch it can become invincible in one stat, ruining any tier it finds itself in
@@theschnozzler I know, I'm just spitballing lol. I know Eternamax is meant to be unplayable as the BST makes it like those big RPG bosses with stats your player characters can't comprehend ever having. But yeah, even a tier where everything is legal couldn't comprehend Arceus changing its types at will lol.
@@theschnozzler eternax literally broke the entirity of true hackmons lmao, make a physically immune version and a specially immune version and just wall anything.
this and ground type are the only ones who can effectively use an item, the ground one has earthquake to replace judgement. Allowing it to use groundium z to change its form and use a z move
the eternal pain of the physical rock-type attacker. unless your name is lycanroc, ogerpon, or iron boulder, you have to play every turn with your fingers crossed.
I play the Ubers UU tier, and some forms are insanely good in the format. We only have Normal, Ground, and Fairy banned via usage, and the majority of the banned mons are Arc forms. Arceus Water, Steel, and Flying were banned for being way too good defensively, and Arceus Ghost and especially Fire were extremely strong offensively, mainly due to them being very good Ekiller forms without Normal being around. Currently Arceus isn't super common, Arc Dark being the most used for utility purposes.
Yeah it's not that most of these Arceus forms aren't strong. It's just that they have a unique issue of not only competing for team slots with other Ubers in the tier, but also competing with the 3 best forms for species clause. If you banned Arceus normal and Arceus ground then Arceus as a whole would probably still push 50% usage.
@@fortidogi8620 magearna, mewtwo, hero zacian, palkia-o, giratina all really common and valuable, lots of the banned in ou but not good enough for ubers mons like archaludon, chien-pao, palafin make frequent appearances too. awesome super fun tier tbh
@@fortidogi8620 The top mons at the moment are Magearna, Zacian, Mewtwo, Terapagos, Chien-Pao, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, and Palkia-Origin. The format is super fun and unique, I highly recommend it.
One thing I always found a bit funny about Arceus is that it has the stats for a gameplay niche we don’t see much. Which is a fast wall. Fast Pokémon usually are super frail and defensive Pokémon usually not fast. While you can EV some defensive mons to be a bit faster and some fast Pokémon to be a bit sturdier, they will still lag behind in these categories next to Pokémon more dedicated to these niches. Arceus is the only one that can do both and not underperform in either stat when compared to other Pokémon of similar strength.
@@troykv96 Technically Serpiroir’s stats are made for being a fast wall. But because it’s typing and movepool weren’t good for it it didn’t take. So they reinvented it with Contrary
@@frankwest5388the same can be said for lugia being held back because of its typing and honestly subseed serp performs better in ou then lugia performs in Ubers as a wall
@@troykv96 I think I remember hearing Raikou being described as a fast wall in Gen 2 due to it being able to use recover before the opponent can attack
Something interesting to mention is that in gen 7, z-crystals also changed arceus’ type, giving it access to a z-move, but at the cost of not having the 20% type boost from the plate. although idk if any did use it because i didn’t play Ubers back then, it’s just something i found on my own.
To elaborate on the part of good forms depending on the meta, Arceus-Fire is far from the best in singles Ubers, only being oppressive in Ubers UU where many of its would-be answers are banned by usage. However, in Doubles Ubers, the power of the Koraidon-Groudon core makes Arceus-Fire one of the best forms, where its natural bulk, utility and access to a strong sun-boosted spread move in Heat Wave make it the perfect partner for the dual sun setters. It helps that Kyogre is at its lowest point due to the presence of both bike dragons who resist its Water moves and either replace its rain with sun (without having to get out immediately or Tera on the rain like Groudon) or threaten to OHKO it or force a Tera, on a move that nothing that isn't immune wants to take either, making sun-boosted Fire STAB harder than ever to withstand.
I love how the types fit into their theming Fairy being a trickster, spreading status and being a lil goober Ground being strong and offensive, using rocks to jts advantage Then theres just water who likes the burn. Dammit
Necrozma Dusk is also a steel type and one of the best mons in the game. Honestly the introduction of dusk mane is what mostly killed steel arceus, because why would you use steel arceus when you can use Dusk Mane to do the same things it does while also freeing up your arceus slot.
The difference between Arceus Dark in Ubers and NDubers is pretty interesting. It is considered pretty mid in most generations, but is great in NDubers since it has access to all of toxic, stab foul play, refresh, defog, and taunt which it never could use together in previous gens
The 4th factor in Arceus type viability, much like megas its taking up your Arceus slot. A lot of these types would be more usable if you didnt have the opportunity cost of losing on Fairy or Ekiller for using them
Arceus is so interesting for being pretty fast, insanely bulky, and slightly underpowered compared to other mons in ubers, which is funny considering it has the same base stat across the board
Nah, it wasn't busted, it was over centralizing, which is a worse sin. If you did not had a Palkia-Origin, Dondozo, Booster energy Great Tusk or Defensive Landorus-T, you were just screwed. This is what I like to call "The Silvally theorem", the fact that a Pokemon might not see play because of species clause causing insane competition.
@@N12015is sivally actually a good example though? Most sivally types don't see play because it sucks, not because it has competition from species clause.
Great vid as usual, Freezai! I just wanted to say, though - you've used the same asset for the DRAGON type many videos now, and each time it has the D a bit black and a black bar across the A... is that intentional, or a mistake? I don't get it... (sorry if this seems like a nitpick)
Arceus-Grass is arguably the best form imo. It's been the best utility 'mon in Ubers for well over 10 years now, and it's always useful. Aromatherapy, Grass being a decent typing, Healing, Will-o-wisp/T--wave support, Defog, Roar, Calm Mind tank potential. It's just amazing. Gen 6-7 Arceus-Grass and Groudon core made such a nice balance sweep shutdown core that Weezing was slotted onto the team and if played properly, you had 0 losing matchups. Xerneas got hard-walled, Mega Mewtwo got rolled, Yveltal lost to Will-o+Weezing...it was just great. Idk you can't go wrong with Arceus-Grass.
Lots of weird editing problems in this one: Errors and glitchy textures on the type nameplates, silhouettes fading back out during transitions but not ALL of them (Arc:Ground keeps vanishing), just a lot of funky stuff. Neat topic, but the production is definitely down.
I don't know if I'll get an answer to this but I have a question. Arceus-Water is A on the viability rankings (with stuff like Arceus-Normal, Eternatus, and Kyogre), but when looking at it's actual usage it's down in 36th place with 2.6% (around mons like Ditto, Giratina-Altered, and Terapagos). Why is it considered on-par or even better than pokemon in the top 10-20 in the tier when it's usage actually sits around pokemon that are C- ranked or worse?
It’s because you can only have one Arceus on a team. If the three best Pokémon in a tier are all Arceus formes, then that won’t be reflected in the usage stats (unless the tier is incredibly diverse). It’s possible for six Pokémon to be on over 50% of teams, but it isn’t possible for two of the six to be Arceus. Water is outclassed by EKiller and Fairy, so its usage stats are artificially low compared to its viability.
If a type can be good as a mono type it can be a good arceus. The metagame is also a factor. A bigger one really. Even Arceus bug could be good in the right circumstances. That being said I can't imagine electric arceus ever being good. Ground is just way too prevelant.
3:50 Im not a competitive pokemon player so i could be completely missing the point here, but if arceus normal is so strong that every team needs to be ready for it, why is it (relatively) so low in pick rate? Why isnt everyone using it if its thats strong? Are the other pokemon also that powerful or is there something else that I'm not taking into account?
I absolutely adore Arceus. one of the best pokemon designs in terms of flavor, and making it an incredibly versatile mon that's been relevant since it released is quite fitting for the God of pokemon
A few years ago I used the "Arceus we have at home," Silvally, in Gen VIII VGC and Grass was actually one of its best forms (before Rillaboom got its hidden ability of course). It really shows how metagame changes which Plate... or Memory is best.
Idk if I’m the only one, but I want Z-moves to come back. And Arceus was able to run it too with its Multitype, which was cool. An OP mechanic Pokemon even straight out banned was type-gems where a move did 1.3 or 1.5 times (i forget which) on the first move of that type.
I agree, the gem ban is underwhelming. but also consider that z moves work once a battle where gems work once per mon. its a 1.5 boost with no choice lock nor recoil.
@@meannush7552 Speaking of gems I feel like EITHER Pokemon Co. or Showdown should have a “Single-gem Clause.” Pokemon would straight out ban it, can’t see why not be able to use at least one. Also it’s a one time use, or make it so that it doesn’t stack with stat buffs, like setting up SD then Iron Head with Steel Gem Kartana (just an example).
Noticed a few little weird visual things in the editing. They probably weren't too distracting for most people, but hopefully Freezai's style becomes easier for this editor if they continue working together.
Arceus Dark Tera Normal is good against Calyrex Shadow. When you terastallize to Normal you are immune to Astral Barrage, you could run coverage to hit Calyrex with Psyshock if its Tera Fighting or Sludge Bomb for Tera Fairy.
yea, well... in practice (anything goes, only tier where caly is legal), caly-shadows tend to use tera ghost, normal or grass. a good dark-type judgement is usually enough to put it in its place. and even if not, you don't know if ur opponent is fairy or fighting, and running 2 coverage moves just for 1 mon means u miss out on utility like twave or willowisp.
I was always partial to Dark Type Arceus. During the 3DS days, I ran a defensive Calm mind sweeper, with Refresh for getting rid of status. I was disappointed when they axed it.
When picking a type you can also think about what moves that type Arceus *could* have. It’s got 120 in every stat, if you use a type that has a build using both Attack or Special Attack. Like how Galarian Rapidash was back in SwSh, if you choose the right type they have no way of knowing whether to switch in a Special wall or a Physical wall. If you choose for example Normal, there’s no thinking needed, they know what you’re doing. Arceus has equal SpAtk and Atk, so if you take everything out, like team preview back then; there’s no way of knowing which they are.
Poor Shaymin Sky, I remember almost always using it in Ubers, since besides Arceus it was the only other Grass type in there, and it was nice to outspeed Darkrai with it. Ubers Jirachi flinching, if only it could be 130 speed now.
I rhink one extra mention for why arceus-normal is so good is because it can hold an extra item. Idk how the damage multiplier for plates work (stab + plate boost?), but normal can let you carry whatever other items you want. Life orb is a pretty great example since it also boosts ypur other attacks
You know, in the anime, Arceus is probably the most overpowered Pokémon ever, because in the anime, the movie to be exact, arceus had the ability to change his type mid battle, practically allowing him to either resist or even completely immune to attacks.
Power creep might be a thing, but I love how GameFreak continues with the tradition of Arceus being the mon that, on its base form, has the highest BST of them all. Only Eternatus comes "close" at 690.
Ubers has an over representation of Dragon, Steel, Fairy, Psychic, and Flying with the number of Pokemon over 660 BST being extremely limited when you exclude Arceus We have Groudon, Kyogre, aaaaand that’s it
![The False Arceus [Pokémon Legends Theory]](/img/n.gif)
Arceus-Steel (Arceus-Flying)
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@@MegaSpamziken1996Because the colours look similar some players nicknamed their Arceus a different type than it actually is
@@davispo7550 just look at the type instead of the color smh
@@MegaSpamziken1996Its a meme where in a competitive match someone clicked Earthquake on an Arceus-Flying that was nicknamed Arceus-Steel.
@@i_like_chomp6382competitive pokemon moment
You forgot to mention that e killer can also hold a different item since it doesn’t need the plate which is very helpful
A lot of the time it just ends up running Silk Scarf anyways
@@blargghkipit can also run life orb for slightly more damage, or choice band for more immediate damage
@@blargghkipreally? I remember in the past the common item was lum berry for status or chopple berry for marshadow.
@@petelee2477yeah in the past because marshadow isnt in gen 9
@@blargghkip E-killer often runs Silk Scarf, yes, but if you're running a different Arceus-Normal set then you might want to run something else, and Arceus-Normal is the only type that can run a different held item. Freezai should have mentioned this.
Arceus-Flying with the nickname "Arceus-Steel"
A showderp classic
Really stole the show
freezai talking about something i didn't think i gave a shit about is an instant click
Fax. I’ve never played ubers, have no plans to, and I clicked without hesitation.
I just clicked cause I was bored
Atheists smh. Arceus bug is not a god worthy of worship tho
i clicked because i will watch practically anything related to pokemon
These are facts.
I like how the literal God of everything cannot command wind to remove some random rocks, hazards really are god tier threats
"I fear no mon, but that... _thing_ scares me"
- Arceus AKA God talking about some hurty spikes and rocks
That is criminal. How comes Arceus can't learn EVERY move in the game??
@@ieatvirginsyou want a 120 omnistat smeargle?
@@afriendlycampfire260 Yes
@@afriendlycampfire260 That might be necessary to keep Arceus relevant come Gen 13 when Miraidon and Zacian have been so powercrept that they're considered D-tier Ubers.
you know you're strong when your best counters are different versions of yourself
Arceus is such a cool pokemon. you can build an ubers team without it, then you can just slap in an arceus to patch any holes it has. It’s amazing in how versatile it can be
That’s the whole point of arceus - any type, almost any move
Kinda like snorlax
At least Extreme-killer Arceus has remained pretty consistent over the years, especially in Gen 9 where it can use the Tera-Normal extremespeed combo
Or you can use tera ghost for stab shadow claw and getting more swords dances up
It really struggled in Gen 7 when Marshadow and Zygarde-C were everywhere, but now it gets to another peak in its career.
Dragon Dance ESpeed and it’s just another Dragonite!
You know, there IS one more form of Arceus, but it's locked behind its signature item in its own game. Yup, I'm talking the Legend Plate which you get once you complete the Hisui Dex and defeat/catch Arceus. Here's what the Legend Plate does: When given to Arceus, it starts as a Normal-Type. The twist is that when using Judgement, Arceus will automatically change its type to whatever is super-effective against the target. I'm just saying...if we have to live with Calyrex-Shadow going Tera Fairy, why not implement the Legend Plate in the mainline games to let Arceus change its type every time it uses Judgement? It might be too much for Ubers, but with Ubers specifically, I say screw order, I want chaos!
Instant AG ban
@@theschnozzler A new tier where he can hang out with Eternamax Eternatus and Tera Electric Shedinja lol.
@@georgecortes3416 eternamax isn't even playable because if it would be due to a glitch it can become invincible in one stat, ruining any tier it finds itself in
@@theschnozzler I know, I'm just spitballing lol. I know Eternamax is meant to be unplayable as the BST makes it like those big RPG bosses with stats your player characters can't comprehend ever having. But yeah, even a tier where everything is legal couldn't comprehend Arceus changing its types at will lol.
@@theschnozzler eternax literally broke the entirity of true hackmons lmao, make a physically immune version and a specially immune version and just wall anything.
Arceus Normal also has access to an item which makes it so versatile.
this and ground type are the only ones who can effectively use an item, the ground one has earthquake to replace judgement. Allowing it to use groundium z to change its form and use a z move
Arceus-Fairy used to be terrible.
Saw 0% usage in gen V and prior.
Oh my god
Watching stone edge miss every time you talk about it has me dying laughing. Fuck that move.
>Says and talks about Stone Edge
>Actually shows Rock Slide
>Doesnt matter, still misses
LMAO
the eternal pain of the physical rock-type attacker. unless your name is lycanroc, ogerpon, or iron boulder, you have to play every turn with your fingers crossed.
I play the Ubers UU tier, and some forms are insanely good in the format. We only have Normal, Ground, and Fairy banned via usage, and the majority of the banned mons are Arc forms. Arceus Water, Steel, and Flying were banned for being way too good defensively, and Arceus Ghost and especially Fire were extremely strong offensively, mainly due to them being very good Ekiller forms without Normal being around. Currently Arceus isn't super common, Arc Dark being the most used for utility purposes.
Yeah it's not that most of these Arceus forms aren't strong. It's just that they have a unique issue of not only competing for team slots with other Ubers in the tier, but also competing with the 3 best forms for species clause. If you banned Arceus normal and Arceus ground then Arceus as a whole would probably still push 50% usage.
UUbers sounds really interesting! What are some common non-Arceus names you see?
yeah tera normal arceus fire was disgusting, essentially a burn immune ekiller arceus with stab on flare blitz for steels (magearna the big one)
@@fortidogi8620 magearna, mewtwo, hero zacian, palkia-o, giratina all really common and valuable, lots of the banned in ou but not good enough for ubers mons like archaludon, chien-pao, palafin make frequent appearances too. awesome super fun tier tbh
@@fortidogi8620 The top mons at the moment are Magearna, Zacian, Mewtwo, Terapagos, Chien-Pao, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, and Palkia-Origin. The format is super fun and unique, I highly recommend it.
One thing I always found a bit funny about Arceus is that it has the stats for a gameplay niche we don’t see much.
Which is a fast wall.
Fast Pokémon usually are super frail and defensive Pokémon usually not fast.
While you can EV some defensive mons to be a bit faster and some fast Pokémon to be a bit sturdier, they will still lag behind in these categories next to Pokémon more dedicated to these niches.
Arceus is the only one that can do both and not underperform in either stat when compared to other Pokémon of similar strength.
I don't remember other Fast Wall besides Arceus themself, Lugia and Scream Tail.
@@troykv96
Technically Serpiroir’s stats are made for being a fast wall. But because it’s typing and movepool weren’t good for it it didn’t take. So they reinvented it with Contrary
@@frankwest5388the same can be said for lugia being held back because of its typing and honestly subseed serp performs better in ou then lugia performs in Ubers as a wall
@@troykv96 I think I remember hearing Raikou being described as a fast wall in Gen 2 due to it being able to use recover before the opponent can attack
Mew could be a fast wall before Arceus
7:42 Arceus-ground was lost
rest in peace...
Something interesting to mention is that in gen 7, z-crystals also changed arceus’ type, giving it access to a z-move, but at the cost of not having the 20% type boost from the plate. although idk if any did use it because i didn’t play Ubers back then, it’s just something i found on my own.
he mentioned arcues ghost used to use the z crystal alongside shadow force
Any phsical arceus would prefer the z move
All forms are equal…but some forms are more equal than others.
Can’t believe George Orwell lost the Gen 9 world finals
I love him showing stone edge/rockslide and it missing while being good options with Ground. XD
To elaborate on the part of good forms depending on the meta, Arceus-Fire is far from the best in singles Ubers, only being oppressive in Ubers UU where many of its would-be answers are banned by usage. However, in Doubles Ubers, the power of the Koraidon-Groudon core makes Arceus-Fire one of the best forms, where its natural bulk, utility and access to a strong sun-boosted spread move in Heat Wave make it the perfect partner for the dual sun setters. It helps that Kyogre is at its lowest point due to the presence of both bike dragons who resist its Water moves and either replace its rain with sun (without having to get out immediately or Tera on the rain like Groudon) or threaten to OHKO it or force a Tera, on a move that nothing that isn't immune wants to take either, making sun-boosted Fire STAB harder than ever to withstand.
Pretending that Body Press Cosmic Power Stored Power Fighting Arceus doesn't exist.
It sucks
even the literal god pokemon has some pretty ass sets i suppose
That could work in a tournament, but why Arceus-fighting ? I mean you spoil the entire strat
Ive ran cosmic power arceus, but like fighting is horrid for that If rather run steel or fairy
Ground and Dairy do that better
I love how the types fit into their theming
Fairy being a trickster, spreading status and being a lil goober
Ground being strong and offensive, using rocks to jts advantage
Then theres just water who likes the burn. Dammit
Water is carried by a great defensive typing
Dark is there for shenanigans
E-Killer is love, E-Killer is life
8:42, ground is still hidden lmao
I saw that, lol
I had literally no idea how complicated Arceus would be in singles.
Ye ngl this was an instant click, I've always wanted to know why
There's something funny to me about saying Stone edge twice but both times it's rock slide missing
Makes sense steel is bad, since its such a defensive type and the dominant meta in gen 9 is offense
Well not helping no idem and alot of good ground types
Necrozma Dusk is also a steel type and one of the best mons in the game. Honestly the introduction of dusk mane is what mostly killed steel arceus, because why would you use steel arceus when you can use Dusk Mane to do the same things it does while also freeing up your arceus slot.
May we worship and wait for the move judgement to land to bring us to Salvation.
Praise Arceus
E killer has barely changed since its debut and it’s still to this day one of the biggest threats in Ubers, it’s amazing
Fr, E-killer's only "major" adaptation over the years was the choice between Chople Berry or Life Orb/Silk Scarf soley for Marshadow
"take a look at the world around you"
Immediately starts to cry 😭
"an pick the best Arceus"
How will that help? 😢
get on pokemon and play, your not going to understand without experience.
@@meannush7552 I think you misunderstood my joke, I've played tons of pokemon. Difficulty hacks and on showdown
@@ilovedogs2642 damn dude, sorry for misunderstanding your joke
Arceus will show you the way of Inner Peace and Self Fulfillment 🙏
Praise Arceus
As someone who's a very casual player, I've always wondered this myself. Good video!
Another thing that helped arceus ghost was that it used to check ekiller
It’s ark-eus. As in, arcane + deus. Which means an unknowable deity.
the name is アルセウス (a ru se u su), you're wrong.
@@rodolfogrossmann2965 sir, this is an english channel
@@meannush7552playing a Japanese game
The difference between Arceus Dark in Ubers and NDubers is pretty interesting. It is considered pretty mid in most generations, but is great in NDubers since it has access to all of toxic, stab foul play, refresh, defog, and taunt which it never could use together in previous gens
The 4th factor in Arceus type viability, much like megas its taking up your Arceus slot. A lot of these types would be more usable if you didnt have the opportunity cost of losing on Fairy or Ekiller for using them
Arceus is so interesting for being pretty fast, insanely bulky, and slightly underpowered compared to other mons in ubers, which is funny considering it has the same base stat across the board
Arceus Fire was busted in UbersUU!!
Nah, it wasn't busted, it was over centralizing, which is a worse sin. If you did not had a Palkia-Origin, Dondozo, Booster energy Great Tusk or Defensive Landorus-T, you were just screwed.
This is what I like to call "The Silvally theorem", the fact that a Pokemon might not see play because of species clause causing insane competition.
"It was busted in Ubers uwu!"
@@DrDeathslayer thumbs down👎
@@N12015is sivally actually a good example though? Most sivally types don't see play because it sucks, not because it has competition from species clause.
@@watery2211 I was thinking of PU, and because Deoxys was took by "speed is everything" video.
8:18 The Psychic type has left the chat:
?
came to the comments looking for someone talking about it
Why bother necrozma and Mewtwo are better nerczma for obuse reason but Mewtwo has jest as deep of a move pool and has nasty plot
When was the last time you saw a psychic type move in gen 9 singles. Be honest
Great vid as usual, Freezai!
I just wanted to say, though - you've used the same asset for the DRAGON type many videos now, and each time it has the D a bit black and a black bar across the A... is that intentional, or a mistake? I don't get it... (sorry if this seems like a nitpick)
It’s been cool to hear your voice change over time
Arceus-Grass is arguably the best form imo. It's been the best utility 'mon in Ubers for well over 10 years now, and it's always useful. Aromatherapy, Grass being a decent typing, Healing, Will-o-wisp/T--wave support, Defog, Roar, Calm Mind tank potential. It's just amazing.
Gen 6-7 Arceus-Grass and Groudon core made such a nice balance sweep shutdown core that Weezing was slotted onto the team and if played properly, you had 0 losing matchups. Xerneas got hard-walled, Mega Mewtwo got rolled, Yveltal lost to Will-o+Weezing...it was just great.
Idk you can't go wrong with Arceus-Grass.
I love watching TH-cam videos about niche meta games that I’ll probably never involve myself with!
Shout out to arceus ice for not even being mentioned
Power creep getting so crazy that it wouldn't surprise me if in a Gen or two, an Arceus form dropped to OU
OU? What are you talking about? Are we inventing words now?
@@PCB389 where the fuck else do words come from
"Extreme Speed... outspeeds every Pokemon."
Comfey: *"Almost* every Pokemon."
and anything with Upper Hand but that's not as funny
Lots of weird editing problems in this one: Errors and glitchy textures on the type nameplates, silhouettes fading back out during transitions but not ALL of them (Arc:Ground keeps vanishing), just a lot of funky stuff. Neat topic, but the production is definitely down.
Im kinda honored that i was subbed to you when you still had the subs in the hundreds 😅 you came a long way
1:16 because it's a god afterall
So many replays from the previous UWC in which freezai really shined and just narrowly missed the trophy.
I don't know if I'll get an answer to this but I have a question. Arceus-Water is A on the viability rankings (with stuff like Arceus-Normal, Eternatus, and Kyogre), but when looking at it's actual usage it's down in 36th place with 2.6% (around mons like Ditto, Giratina-Altered, and Terapagos). Why is it considered on-par or even better than pokemon in the top 10-20 in the tier when it's usage actually sits around pokemon that are C- ranked or worse?
It’s because you can only have one Arceus on a team. If the three best Pokémon in a tier are all Arceus formes, then that won’t be reflected in the usage stats (unless the tier is incredibly diverse). It’s possible for six Pokémon to be on over 50% of teams, but it isn’t possible for two of the six to be Arceus.
Water is outclassed by EKiller and Fairy, so its usage stats are artificially low compared to its viability.
11:58 freezai misspelled something point and laugh
If a type can be good as a mono type it can be a good arceus. The metagame is also a factor. A bigger one really. Even Arceus bug could be good in the right circumstances. That being said I can't imagine electric arceus ever being good. Ground is just way too prevelant.
This probably sounds insane but I wonder how Arceus bug would deal with sand teams.
He is such a megalomaniac Eevee lol
Funny how Normal Arceus is just peak any and every time.
Ah yes, casually talking about the competitive viability of literal God
Ok he’s omnipotent but is he meta tho?
would love a video abt random moms that saw OU stints bc of an obviously broken mon (houndoom at beginning of gen 9 etc)
Good work algorithm
3:50 Im not a competitive pokemon player so i could be completely missing the point here, but if arceus normal is so strong that every team needs to be ready for it, why is it (relatively) so low in pick rate? Why isnt everyone using it if its thats strong? Are the other pokemon also that powerful or is there something else that I'm not taking into account?
Fairy, Ground, and Water are more consistent due to being better defensively whereas Ekiller needs more support
I absolutely adore Arceus. one of the best pokemon designs in terms of flavor, and making it an incredibly versatile mon that's been relevant since it released is quite fitting for the God of pokemon
A few years ago I used the "Arceus we have at home," Silvally, in Gen VIII VGC and Grass was actually one of its best forms (before Rillaboom got its hidden ability of course). It really shows how metagame changes which Plate... or Memory is best.
Idk if I’m the only one, but I want Z-moves to come back. And Arceus was able to run it too with its Multitype, which was cool.
An OP mechanic Pokemon even straight out banned was type-gems where a move did 1.3 or 1.5 times (i forget which) on the first move of that type.
I agree, the gem ban is underwhelming. but also consider that z moves work once a battle where gems work once per mon. its a 1.5 boost with no choice lock nor recoil.
@@meannush7552 Speaking of gems I feel like EITHER Pokemon Co. or Showdown should have a “Single-gem Clause.” Pokemon would straight out ban it, can’t see why not be able to use at least one.
Also it’s a one time use, or make it so that it doesn’t stack with stat buffs, like setting up SD then Iron Head with Steel Gem Kartana (just an example).
05:52 the day shaymin sky drops from ubers is the day the meta game has been powercrep passed hell
Noticed a few little weird visual things in the editing. They probably weren't too distracting for most people, but hopefully Freezai's style becomes easier for this editor if they continue working together.
Nobody talking about how the intro music is a Sonic 4, Splash Hill Zone, guitar cover???
That's so niche!
Arceus Dark Tera Normal is good against Calyrex Shadow. When you terastallize to Normal you are immune to Astral Barrage, you could run coverage to hit Calyrex with Psyshock if its Tera Fighting or Sludge Bomb for Tera Fairy.
yea, well... in practice (anything goes, only tier where caly is legal), caly-shadows tend to use tera ghost, normal or grass. a good dark-type judgement is usually enough to put it in its place. and even if not, you don't know if ur opponent is fairy or fighting, and running 2 coverage moves just for 1 mon means u miss out on utility like twave or willowisp.
I was always partial to Dark Type Arceus. During the 3DS days, I ran a defensive Calm mind sweeper, with Refresh for getting rid of status. I was disappointed when they axed it.
We got negative theology out here boys
I always found it. Kind of silly that the god of all pokémon needs to hold a little plate to become a different type
When picking a type you can also think about what moves that type Arceus *could* have.
It’s got 120 in every stat, if you use a type that has a build using both Attack or Special Attack. Like how Galarian Rapidash was back in SwSh, if you choose the right type they have no way of knowing whether to switch in a Special wall or a Physical wall. If you choose for example Normal, there’s no thinking needed, they know what you’re doing.
Arceus has equal SpAtk and Atk, so if you take everything out, like team preview back then; there’s no way of knowing which they are.
It’s also worth mentioning that in past gens with smeargle the grass type’s spore immunity can be handy
Me picking the Legend Plate in SV: My powers are beyond your understanding.
So this video is now the reason I find out Eternatus is Poison-Type... Weird
0:07 I don't mean to be "THAT guy" but Arceus ISN'T a Legendary, but a Mythical (yes there IS a difference)
Poor Shaymin Sky, I remember almost always using it in Ubers, since besides Arceus it was the only other Grass type in there, and it was nice to outspeed Darkrai with it. Ubers Jirachi flinching, if only it could be 130 speed now.
Idk why they nerfed seed flare
I like that every time you mentioned Rock Slide you show it missing xD
I rhink one extra mention for why arceus-normal is so good is because it can hold an extra item. Idk how the damage multiplier for plates work (stab + plate boost?), but normal can let you carry whatever other items you want. Life orb is a pretty great example since it also boosts ypur other attacks
Never forget Arceus-Steel
Kirby air ride music
I think it might be music from another Kirby but I remember it from Kirby air ride
For anyone wondering what's the song at 8:20 it's Isekai by Rj Pasin.
Funny how half of the types have their viability or lack thereof solely defined by Miraidon and Koraidon being such incredible examples of power creep
In a similar vein, it'd be cool for you to go over what makes a Tera type good or bad for a Pokemon. I still find that confusing sometimes.
That ending was inspirational
You know, in the anime, Arceus is probably the most overpowered Pokémon ever, because in the anime, the movie to be exact, arceus had the ability to change his type mid battle, practically allowing him to either resist or even completely immune to attacks.
arceus is actually a mythical
oh noooo mario came down with mental retardation 😔
I like how last gen 3 Pokémon had 85%+ usage and now the highest is below 40%
Power creep might be a thing, but I love how GameFreak continues with the tradition of Arceus being the mon that, on its base form, has the highest BST of them all. Only Eternatus comes "close" at 690.
I swear this video is having an identity crisis, every time I find it, the thumbnail has changed.
Im waiting to see how many times Freezai changes the name of this video while it sits in my watch later
I guess any hope that Legends Arceus would've got people to pronounce it correctly has gone. That shit should've been sorted since gen 7 and Silvally
I thought this said arceus type beat and I was ready for some heat
0:05 Arse phone
Edge-quake was something that was not on my bingo card
Arceus Flying? Asking because I'm curious about that Ground Immunity
"pairs with stone edge"
*Clip is rock slide missing*
6:20 Ho-oh can try and take on calm mind arceus, but it would lose to the psychical stone egde:
**The attack misses**
i love how some of they type plates are see through for no apparent reason
I used to use steel arc back in gen 6. I used cosmic power with toxic and willowisp. And I'd say "stall god is above this futile squabble"
Use either the good or bad plates if you want a good or bad form arceus. Hope this helps
Some player is going to make it their goal to reach #1 with an Arceus-Bug team after watching this
Love how the example footage for stone edge was a miss 😂
Ubers has an over representation of Dragon, Steel, Fairy, Psychic, and Flying with the number of Pokemon over 660 BST being extremely limited when you exclude Arceus
We have Groudon, Kyogre, aaaaand that’s it
i agree with you except the part with flying. they arent used a lot in games for their stealth rock weakness
@@meannush7552 Not really talking about viability but representation
We have Lugia, Ho-oh, Rayquaza, and Yveltal