@@CantusTropus m-sableye has magic bounce, only regular sableye had prankster, iirc the reason it was nerfed was bcuz the genies were abusing it in vgc
I remember when people were abusing Switcheroo and Trick, so the metagame started running Mail as a hold item in Gen 5 to prevent losing your item. Also Imprison strategies was also a big thing back in the day.
@@aaleven4728 I've never seen that, I'm more familiar with spooky plate to beat normalize ghosts, and the occasional scarf to make sure you outspeed their setup sweeper or light ball pika for the meme. Or any of the basic good items on bliss (boots, lefties, cloak).
U could genuinely make chansey the best Pokémon in the game with guard and power split in doubles, I love using transform on shedinja to give it 400+ Hp
Oh my god, this sure takes me back! I was a prolific Balanced Hackmons stall player named Adrian Marin. I recognize basically everyone in this video! I would be happy to help you in future BH/PH videos since I'm extremely familiar with the history.
@@beanslinger2 well, fun fact - in either Black and White 1 or 2 (idr which), Triple Battles and the rotation battles are version exclusive outside of the subway and 1 NPC who does the opposite
I love the way you adress and rebut common questions and perspectives people who dont play competitive pokemon tend to have, all while being non-judgmental. You do so much good for the scene.
Point of order re: Unaware-it's just as potent of an _offensive_ tool as a defensive one, because boosting isn't always used offensively. While I got my balanced hackmons start in Gen 6, one of the things I struggled with early on was defense-boosting Giratinas. Being immensely difficult to break and immune to my _favored_ boost-wall-breaking tool, Final Gambit Blissey, short of being tricked a Ring Target (a risky and typically unrewarding play since the Blissey Bomb requires full HP to secure the KO), I was feeling at a bit of a loss for what exactly to do...and then I looked to Unaware Snorlax. A bulky Pokémon immune to one of Giratina's STABs that, with Unaware could doubtlessly stand up to a lot of punishment, but was also very potent as a Belly Drum threat. The boost-wall Giratina weren't often all that fast or powerful on their own, so it wasn't hard to get a drum off on them, with them not expecting Snorlax's Ability, and lay up for a Night Slash that would bring them to tears.
Really really love the boxes telling what the moves and abilities do, really love it for someone like me who doesn't know them all and often has to pause to look up on bulbapedia
Liking your comment because, even though I do remember all those things by heart, I think a lot of people might benefit from the boxes staying on screen
Funny thing is the Rock paper Scissor element is very prevalent in pure hgackmon too Mold Breaker Beats Wonder Guard, which beats Pure Power which in return loops back to Mold Breaker
It's so cool to see Freezai tackling one of my favorite metagames of all time! Great job on the video, you got just about everything that was run back then perfectly, excited to see the next parts.
God this gives me so much nostalgia. Back in 2012, I remember Hackmons was the first meta I ever really got good at and the only time I've ever topped the ladder & gotten over 2000 ELO. The meta was basically solved so even though I sucked at the game, I could just spam Wonder Guard Electrode and get wins. That was great xD In August of 2012, In Balanced Hackmons, I played a game in which I got protect 5 times in a row TWICE in the same battle PLUS a chain of 4 protects in a row (also in the same battle). It still wasn't enough to win me the game b/c I sucked, but in the 10 years since, I've never seen anyone get that lucky again.
In the gen 4 days there was a way you could use a website to generate and trade on the GTS to give yourself hacked Pokemon and I used wonder guard Spiritomb to troll all my friends
Aerilate and its counterparts of Refrigerate and Pixilate were not yet released. The only type changing ability at the time was Normalize, and I also don't remember Normalize Gengar being as prominent as modern threats like Normalize Dragapult. Gen 6 was where we started conversion sweepers (Aerilate Mega Rayquaza, Refrigerate Kyurems, Pixilate Xerneas). To an extent, Galvanize in Gen 7 added more variety as it could be further boosted with Electric Terrain, but the immunity makes it less used. Incidentally, this also made Rapid Spin more reliable; stuff like Fake Out/Extreme Speed/Rapid Spin/U-Turn was somewhat prominent.
I played Gen 8 Balanced Hackmons, and was around 1400 at several points, until Impostor Chansey/Blissey became a PROBLEM and very little counterplay was feasible. Very few pokemon could reliably use unburden and judgement/plate sets were Only good against Impostor sets, and lost a lot of utility to fight anything else. It was incredibly hard to play against I stopped playing then, but would be very interested to see if it actually got banned at any point.
This concept interests me mostly just from how fun difficulty randomizers can be (although max EVs seems pretty lame imo), but it also got me thinking about a side meta for Showdown where instead of being able to choose any move/ability, all Mons' abilities and movepools (along with other things like types if the community wanted it) would be randomized/shuffled instead (following base forms, e.g. Mons with 3 abilities get 3 random new abilities and Mons with 2 get 2, same for movepool count, maybe types). Even though the results would likely be fairly similar to BH in terms of which Mons end up the best, there would surely be some cool, interesting, and unique combos that would arise due to the much more restricted (and of course random) nature of it and it'd be fun to see how a new meta evolved around that, plus they could just roll the dice every month or so to keep things fresh.
@@aerybirb8748 Not that I can find much of anything about Broken Cup, but I'm describing a meta where you can still team build, just with pre randomized/shuffled attributes (like an rng seed for the whole dex similar to how randomizers function). Broken Cup from what I can tell seems to be randbats with random attributes.
Mail can stop trick/switcheroo in Gen5 but it doesn't remove the fact that it was a strong way to help STag/ATrap users. Only place where Mail is really viable is 1v1's formats
I remember I made a prankster Blissey with mean look, spore, imprison, and transform back in gen 6. I was just goofing around but I remember making a lot of people salty by trapping their sweeper and then setting up max stats while they struggled to death
It's really cool to see that a format you'd expect to boil down to the best Pokemon with the best combos is actually super intricate Fantastic video and excited for the rest!
Early Hackmons history is an object lesson in why tiers and banning in general are a good thing. Theoretically, you can do anything, but only one or two things are actually viable, and if you do anything else you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Lower tiers existing is so nice for giving less-than-top-tier Pokemon a place to exist.
My favorite generation was Gen. 6- back in the day there would be these hilarious rock paper scissors of deoxys speed Either using mold breaker, prankster, or magic bounce to try and get rocks up before the other guy.
what if in pure hackmons a strategy would be to run both wonderguard and ohko moves? since u can hit mons with no guard because no guard makes all opponent moves hit also
Gen6 hackmons is a really good mode. Theres an interesting interaction where ghost arceus is immune to ghost. Put wonderguard on it and it is a normal arceus but looks like ghost
Pretty sure they’d just have a flash fire mon on every team if a Pokémon like that was beating teams lol. Also, if Desolate land is an ability, then a primordial sea mon would probably just switch in the instant desolate land showed itself.
There are similar mons to what you're running, although kinda split up. The most popular offensive desolate land mons are physical. This is cuz vcreate op. A hooh or entei with any offensive item hits like a truck. And they don't need to waste any turns setting up. For reshiram sets (gen8), eruption is very popular. But usually the set would be with dragons maw and dragon energy alongside it, or the rare simple nasty plot. You generally want your qd mon to have more bulk i.e ph xerneas. As a bonus note on your set idea, roost wouldn't be the best choice here. Either go synthesis/morning sun for the boosted healing in deso land, or strength sap. Also primo sea ferro or kyo/palk were decently popular, and almost any steel type could justify flash fire just to bypass vcreate. Really stops fire offense from being overwhelming.
Really enjoyed this video! just wanted to give the feedback that the rapidly shifting crinkled paper background kind of hurts my eyes and makes it difficult to watch at times.
Incredible stuff, and since Generation gimmicks are massively important, I'm betting that each Gen will have a lot of stuff to talk about even tho all the basics were covered here. Amazing video, very excited to see pt 2 ASAP!!
I like this more edited videos talking about the history of competitive tiers, people really don't talk that much about other tiers apart from OU and maybe UU and Ubers.
@AzurefoxBH In most modern metas, there are more ways to hit hard without setup than in gen 5. Additionally Contrary is a prevelant threat in gen 5 and Prankster doesn’t work to beat it and Fur Coat and Ice Scales don’t exist yet. Thus, Unaware in gen 5 is a great defensive ability, while in modern gens that’s less true.
Did anyone have success from using bad abilities + Entrainment? I feel like having your mon unexpectedly Entrain Truant onto foes would throw off a lot of strategies. Or hell, run some bulky Fire types who can Entrain Dry Skin.
Illusion is much more broken than the few seconds this video lets on. By fooling your opponent ibto wasting a turn, this was often enough for a Shell Smash or Tail Glow which was usually an auto win. The typical imposter strategy to counter set up sweepers didn't work because Imposter does not work if Illusion is still up. Illusion eventually ended up getting banned from balanced hackmons.
This is really interesting, thank you for starting this series! I make board games as a hobby, and something people struggle to understand is you need limits to protect freedom. When you open the gates to do anything, what you can realistically do successfully becomes extremely narrow. The rules of a game are usually designed to protect player choice and freedom, and make sure there's no one dominant strategy that shuts down all other options.
People still need to remember that possibly having a mold breaker Mon can make or break it in hack mons even just having a simple beam user in doubles can be really helpful when dealing with obnoxious abilities say huge power wonder guard etc
Darn, this is fascinating. I've never cared about the Hackmons format because I thought the idea of having any move/ability on any pokémon sounded silly as it removes part of these mons' identities, but I just had to look at it with different lens, as a game which is completely different, even if it shares most rules.
As someone who has no prior knowledge of this: this seems like an amazing level of understanding of the Meta. Did you already know this or do some research? Amazing video!!
He has access and is friends with a lot of top players. They also have to practice different gens for smogon tornuments and hes a top player. So I'm sure both of your questions are true. He has probs played this at a high level, but also have learnt from his team mates with theory crafting and other top players in scrims and top level play. And just pure ladder practice. Also there would be a paper trail in the in the forums for the banning (and reasons), facts/stragaies and just genuenly when things happened.
Extremely important thing to note- Dark types weren't immune to Prankster in Gen 5.
and for another generation
@@책쪼아먹는학헌 i thought gen 6 changed it
nvm im dumb
@@Ghoats gen 7
@@Musasensei1674 Wasn't that pretty much exclusively because of Mega Sableye being such a massive problem?
@@CantusTropus m-sableye has magic bounce, only regular sableye had prankster, iirc the reason it was nerfed was bcuz the genies were abusing it in vgc
I remember when people were abusing Switcheroo and Trick, so the metagame started running Mail as a hold item in Gen 5 to prevent losing your item. Also Imprison strategies was also a big thing back in the day.
I noticed in the vid that Giratina used Heal Order and made me think Imprison was definitely prevalent
How does that help? Aren't you conceding an item anyway by holding mail?
@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 switcheroo/rick let an enemy give you an item that acitively was harmful or force you into choice items
@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 choice scarf, choice specs, choice band, lagging tail, stick barb, iron ball, etc
Damn I totally forgot about imprison
Love to see my favourite formats featured in a video! In 2006 I ran over a family of four
Me too! There were no survivors.
Talking about a Maushold.... right? RIGHT
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy you act as if itd make it better
I hate this format.
Wait what?!
relatable!!
improved editing and overall production from Freezai
we love to see it!
Haven't watched him in a bit so this vid's quality was a great surprise
Although it's so funny that he still doesn't know how to say "Shedinja" lmao
The eviolite also work in the transformed form, making the imposter chasey stupid good
Lucky Punch was also an option to win against the bulky setup sweepers that you copied and tried to PP stall you
@@aaleven4728 I've never seen that, I'm more familiar with spooky plate to beat normalize ghosts, and the occasional scarf to make sure you outspeed their setup sweeper or light ball pika for the meme. Or any of the basic good items on bliss (boots, lefties, cloak).
U could genuinely make chansey the best Pokémon in the game with guard and power split in doubles, I love using transform on shedinja to give it 400+ Hp
Oh my god, this sure takes me back! I was a prolific Balanced Hackmons stall player named Adrian Marin. I recognize basically everyone in this video! I would be happy to help you in future BH/PH videos since I'm extremely familiar with the history.
Nice
Now I'm wondering how a Triple Battle Hackmons or a Rotation Battle Hackmons meta would work.
I wonder how a Triple Battle meta would work, its super fun but i can only play it on my bw cartridge in the battle subway :/
water spouts and eruptions galore
@@beanslinger2 well, fun fact - in either Black and White 1 or 2 (idr which), Triple Battles and the rotation battles are version exclusive outside of the subway and 1 NPC who does the opposite
@@beanslinger2Isn't there a way to play it over wi-fi pvp?
@@enoyna1001 i believe it’s playable online in ORAS (triple battles specifically)
I love the way you adress and rebut common questions and perspectives people who dont play competitive pokemon tend to have, all while being non-judgmental. You do so much good for the scene.
Point of order re: Unaware-it's just as potent of an _offensive_ tool as a defensive one, because boosting isn't always used offensively. While I got my balanced hackmons start in Gen 6, one of the things I struggled with early on was defense-boosting Giratinas. Being immensely difficult to break and immune to my _favored_ boost-wall-breaking tool, Final Gambit Blissey, short of being tricked a Ring Target (a risky and typically unrewarding play since the Blissey Bomb requires full HP to secure the KO), I was feeling at a bit of a loss for what exactly to do...and then I looked to Unaware Snorlax. A bulky Pokémon immune to one of Giratina's STABs that, with Unaware could doubtlessly stand up to a lot of punishment, but was also very potent as a Belly Drum threat. The boost-wall Giratina weren't often all that fast or powerful on their own, so it wasn't hard to get a drum off on them, with them not expecting Snorlax's Ability, and lay up for a Night Slash that would bring them to tears.
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Part 2 when?
Really really love the boxes telling what the moves and abilities do, really love it for someone like me who doesn't know them all and often has to pause to look up on bulbapedia
Liking your comment because, even though I do remember all those things by heart, I think a lot of people might benefit from the boxes staying on screen
"reality is very different from a dream"
this dude spittin
Funny thing is the Rock paper Scissor element is very prevalent in pure hgackmon too
Mold Breaker Beats Wonder Guard, which beats Pure Power which in return loops back to Mold Breaker
@@fghjfghjk2192 Its not "one" its 4/6ths of the team
gas killed all the fun from pure hackmons
@@R8Spike Oh damn I completely forgot neutralizing gas existed. Damn that sucks
@@fghjfghjk2192 200+% useage baby
Gens 7-9 Hackmons are my main tiers, can't wait for the rest of this series
It's so cool to see Freezai tackling one of my favorite metagames of all time! Great job on the video, you got just about everything that was run back then perfectly, excited to see the next parts.
God this gives me so much nostalgia. Back in 2012, I remember Hackmons was the first meta I ever really got good at and the only time I've ever topped the ladder & gotten over 2000 ELO. The meta was basically solved so even though I sucked at the game, I could just spam Wonder Guard Electrode and get wins. That was great xD
In August of 2012, In Balanced Hackmons, I played a game in which I got protect 5 times in a row TWICE in the same battle PLUS a chain of 4 protects in a row (also in the same battle). It still wasn't enough to win me the game b/c I sucked, but in the 10 years since, I've never seen anyone get that lucky again.
In the gen 4 days there was a way you could use a website to generate and trade on the GTS to give yourself hacked Pokemon and I used wonder guard Spiritomb to troll all my friends
Can we talk about how busted Aerilate Noivern is in this format?
Likely will be covered in the gen 6 hackmons video when he makes it
Aerilate and its counterparts of Refrigerate and Pixilate were not yet released. The only type changing ability at the time was Normalize, and I also don't remember Normalize Gengar being as prominent as modern threats like Normalize Dragapult.
Gen 6 was where we started conversion sweepers (Aerilate Mega Rayquaza, Refrigerate Kyurems, Pixilate Xerneas). To an extent, Galvanize in Gen 7 added more variety as it could be further boosted with Electric Terrain, but the immunity makes it less used.
Incidentally, this also made Rapid Spin more reliable; stuff like Fake Out/Extreme Speed/Rapid Spin/U-Turn was somewhat prominent.
Verlisify in shambles rn
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I played Gen 8 Balanced Hackmons, and was around 1400 at several points, until Impostor Chansey/Blissey became a PROBLEM and very little counterplay was feasible. Very few pokemon could reliably use unburden and judgement/plate sets were Only good against Impostor sets, and lost a lot of utility to fight anything else. It was incredibly hard to play against
I stopped playing then, but would be very interested to see if it actually got banned at any point.
I really liked pure hackmons until eternamax became a thing. The one bulky unkillable creature wasn’t fun
This editing is really nice! Love to see more good content from you freezai.
This concept interests me mostly just from how fun difficulty randomizers can be (although max EVs seems pretty lame imo), but it also got me thinking about a side meta for Showdown where instead of being able to choose any move/ability, all Mons' abilities and movepools (along with other things like types if the community wanted it) would be randomized/shuffled instead (following base forms, e.g. Mons with 3 abilities get 3 random new abilities and Mons with 2 get 2, same for movepool count, maybe types).
Even though the results would likely be fairly similar to BH in terms of which Mons end up the best, there would surely be some cool, interesting, and unique combos that would arise due to the much more restricted (and of course random) nature of it and it'd be fun to see how a new meta evolved around that, plus they could just roll the dice every month or so to keep things fresh.
That's literally just broken cup
@@aerybirb8748 Not that I can find much of anything about Broken Cup, but I'm describing a meta where you can still team build, just with pre randomized/shuffled attributes (like an rng seed for the whole dex similar to how randomizers function). Broken Cup from what I can tell seems to be randbats with random attributes.
In later gens, you only get the usual 510 max EVs so the entire metagame isn't extra bulky
editing in this one is fire, really makes all the difference imo
Mail can stop trick/switcheroo in Gen5 but it doesn't remove the fact that it was a strong way to help STag/ATrap users. Only place where Mail is really viable is 1v1's formats
Still waiting for part 2 of this
I just realised Pokestar Tyranitar may have been the inspiration for Iron Thorns 😮
This is the metagame that makes my head explode
I remember I made a prankster Blissey with mean look, spore, imprison, and transform back in gen 6. I was just goofing around but I remember making a lot of people salty by trapping their sweeper and then setting up max stats while they struggled to death
Very nice editing! Someone is stepping up production quality!
who is stepping up production quality
please dont say showdown is over a decade old, to me we still mainly play on pokemon online and showdown is in beta. it makes me feel old.
It's really cool to see that a format you'd expect to boil down to the best Pokemon with the best combos is actually super intricate
Fantastic video and excited for the rest!
Havent watched for like 3 months and the editing is starting to look so clean
Early Hackmons history is an object lesson in why tiers and banning in general are a good thing. Theoretically, you can do anything, but only one or two things are actually viable, and if you do anything else you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Lower tiers existing is so nice for giving less-than-top-tier Pokemon a place to exist.
The new editing style is amazing! Hats off to Taz and I hope you two continue working together for future videos
I miss Anything Goes! Like Hackmons, but every Pokémon could have any move
This is such a high quality video!! Love to see new vids from you
Ah to be a pure hackmons player and to defeat teams with a level 1 Leech seed endeavor Pichu with prankster...
2:13 What is this?
pokestar f-002
Common Freezai W
WHEN IS PART 2 👹
Hi, how do I play it? I don't see it on Pokémon showdown formats and I searched sharkmon and a digimon shows up, thank you!
I love how u are covering some of the more unique formats
Smh the first time i heard of hackmon, my first instinct was "What if I made a wonder guard spiritomb" thinking i was killing it 😭😭
Honey u go pick up the kids I can’t. New freezai dropped 🤷🏽♂️
My favorite generation was Gen. 6- back in the day there would be these hilarious rock paper scissors of deoxys speed Either using mold breaker, prankster, or magic bounce to try and get rocks up before the other guy.
what if in pure hackmons a strategy would be to run both wonderguard and ohko moves? since u can hit mons with no guard because no guard makes all opponent moves hit also
Gen6 hackmons is a really good mode. Theres an interesting interaction where ghost arceus is immune to ghost. Put wonderguard on it and it is a normal arceus but looks like ghost
Has anyone tried quiver dance reshiram with roost and eruption with ability desolate land omg that thing is beyond broken
Pretty sure they’d just have a flash fire mon on every team if a Pokémon like that was beating teams lol. Also, if Desolate land is an ability, then a primordial sea mon would probably just switch in the instant desolate land showed itself.
There are similar mons to what you're running, although kinda split up. The most popular offensive desolate land mons are physical. This is cuz vcreate op. A hooh or entei with any offensive item hits like a truck. And they don't need to waste any turns setting up.
For reshiram sets (gen8), eruption is very popular. But usually the set would be with dragons maw and dragon energy alongside it, or the rare simple nasty plot. You generally want your qd mon to have more bulk i.e ph xerneas. As a bonus note on your set idea, roost wouldn't be the best choice here. Either go synthesis/morning sun for the boosted healing in deso land, or strength sap.
Also primo sea ferro or kyo/palk were decently popular, and almost any steel type could justify flash fire just to bypass vcreate. Really stops fire offense from being overwhelming.
Love to see the longer form content. Editing and visuals have improved so much. Love your vids and please drop part 2 soon!
I love gen 6 pure hackmons, there is a lot of freedom in what you can use, I got to top 20 some years ago, it was fun
Really enjoyed this video! just wanted to give the feedback that the rapidly shifting crinkled paper background kind of hurts my eyes and makes it difficult to watch at times.
7:42 "The best pokemons are legendaries with high stat totals" and then there is our eternal king, Landorus-Therian
Love the way you make your videos and explain it very well, keep it up Freezai
thank you I needed something before bed
Incredible stuff, and since Generation gimmicks are massively important, I'm betting that each Gen will have a lot of stuff to talk about even tho all the basics were covered here.
Amazing video, very excited to see pt 2 ASAP!!
I like this more edited videos talking about the history of competitive tiers, people really don't talk that much about other tiers apart from OU and maybe UU and Ubers.
Part 2 when
One of my very favorite hackmon builds is Prankster Giratina with curse recover substitute and spore. It’s so dirty and I love it.
weird how they value unaware in gen 5 when modern gens it seen as a wasted abil slot maybe because of furscale cores
@AzurefoxBH In most modern metas, there are more ways to hit hard without setup than in gen 5. Additionally Contrary is a prevelant threat in gen 5 and Prankster doesn’t work to beat it and Fur Coat and Ice Scales don’t exist yet. Thus, Unaware in gen 5 is a great defensive ability, while in modern gens that’s less true.
ERM U DIDNT INCLUDE WOLFEYVGC HE HACKES THE FURRY EMO NARCISSTIC TH-camR WITH A DYING CHANNEL TOLD ME
Please, touch grass
Is freezai working on part 2
Can't wait for part 2
ok dude where is part 2
@@Ras_2k one day
Dude your content is perfect, top tier quality, highly interesting, great editing. 10/10 I need you to post more 😅
Oh, Come on!!!
We all know these Pokemon aren't hacked!
Unless they're shiny, THEN they're hacked.
when are we getting a part 2?
"Most hacked Pokémon gameplay takes place on Pokémon Showdown."
Nonono, that's VGC :P
I am an active Balance Hackmons player and it became my favorite format since I discovered it's existence
Fun fact: Eviolite Swadloon's defences are strictly worse than Leavanny's.
I have an extremely important question: why did your opponent name all his mons after Big Bang Theory characters?
psychological warfare
bazinga
patiently awaiting part 2
What is the robot looking thing that chansey transformed into? At 2:14.
pokestar f-002. normal/steel type with all 100 stats across the board
@@cityscapes6741 Thank you!
I'm so glad someone asked I thought I was going crazy
Did anyone have success from using bad abilities + Entrainment? I feel like having your mon unexpectedly Entrain Truant onto foes would throw off a lot of strategies. Or hell, run some bulky Fire types who can Entrain Dry Skin.
Illusion is much more broken than the few seconds this video lets on. By fooling your opponent ibto wasting a turn, this was often enough for a Shell Smash or Tail Glow which was usually an auto win. The typical imposter strategy to counter set up sweepers didn't work because Imposter does not work if Illusion is still up. Illusion eventually ended up getting banned from balanced hackmons.
Generation 8 hackmons is AIDS as for some reason you can make eternamax eternatus invincible to one type of damage
What are some unique Nat Dex AG teams? Thanks for the hackmon video, I'm a big fan of it lol
4:19
Me fanboying over a F1 style graphic being used in a pokemon video
This is really interesting, thank you for starting this series!
I make board games as a hobby, and something people struggle to understand is you need limits to protect freedom. When you open the gates to do anything, what you can realistically do successfully becomes extremely narrow. The rules of a game are usually designed to protect player choice and freedom, and make sure there's no one dominant strategy that shuts down all other options.
part 2? 🥺
Back in the day, I was top of the gen 5 hackmons ladder with my level 1 wonder guard sableye with gastro acid and endeavour x dragon rage. Fun times.
I used to hack in Pokémon in gen 4 and my friends wouldnt fight me because id use safeguard and then switch to Wonder Guard Spiritomb
People still need to remember that possibly having a mold breaker Mon can make or break it in hack mons even just having a simple beam user in doubles can be really helpful when dealing with obnoxious abilities say huge power wonder guard etc
Part 2?
I think to nerf shadow tag or arena trap, just like weather abilities, should be temporary not permanent like 2-3 turns only.
Darn, this is fascinating. I've never cared about the Hackmons format because I thought the idea of having any move/ability on any pokémon sounded silly as it removes part of these mons' identities, but I just had to look at it with different lens, as a game which is completely different, even if it shares most rules.
When everything is broken, no one is.
so where’spart 2
Wtf is that robotic sprite thing at 9:41 ?
PokerStar Studios F-00! It's from the Side Mode in B2W2!
"Sure can't wait for this to become a series!" --- Circa April 21 2023
Hmm, a game with Impostors being critically important. Sounds like…
amogus
A sturdy shedinja might as well use the 999hp action replay code on shedinja to break out the single hit point gimmick
This is what verlisify fans think people who hack pokemon in are using
This video is so fun to watch cant wait to see next!
I have never played competive pokemon in my life but i faithfully watch your uploads.
I was really caught off guard by the F1 TV graphic
Scrappy lets Ghost pokemon get hit by Ghost type moves that they're normally immunte. Needs a spellcheck lol
Very interesting topic! Definitely excited to watch the next parts of this series when they release.
Ferrothorn with Well Baked Body 💀
Prankster pokemon can phase magic bounce pokmon with Parting shot. Parting shot vs magic bounce forces the opponent to switch out
my brain stopped functioning about 5 minutes into the video
As someone who has no prior knowledge of this: this seems like an amazing level of understanding of the Meta. Did you already know this or do some research? Amazing video!!
He has access and is friends with a lot of top players. They also have to practice different gens for smogon tornuments and hes a top player. So I'm sure both of your questions are true. He has probs played this at a high level, but also have learnt from his team mates with theory crafting and other top players in scrims and top level play. And just pure ladder practice. Also there would be a paper trail in the in the forums for the banning (and reasons), facts/stragaies and just genuenly when things happened.