Consider this perspective, an ENTP won't usually argue with someone they already have little to no respect for. If an ENTP is debating you over seemingly nothing then they are reassuring themselves of their respect for you and the value of your ideas. It can also be a way of bonding with you by aligning to your perspective on a matter and grounding themselves from their flights of fancy.
Tell me how can I just not procrastinate my life away. I want to jump topics like a madman and I believe in utopic realization of my ideas. Double whammy.
I have an ENTP friend and he does argue for things he doesn't agree with all the time. Sometimes he argues the craziest things and I have to remind myself that this isn't what he truly believes.
Omg.... yeah.. liek thta one time i was arguing wiht my sister that objects have the presence of their creators in them becuase they cant exist wihtout thir cretaors
For ENTPs, the argument is separate from the person. You'll rarely hear an ENTP use an ad hominem in an argument, and it's not uncommon for them to go, "ooh, good point" when you refute their argument
I'd add another thing: Not every ENTP is argumentative. ENTPs are first and foremost curious and open minded. They love exploring new ideas, which often involves taking the idea apart, asking questions and looking for contradictions. Not every ENTP however, is a "devil's advocate." They might prioritize learning over dissecting. Or they might just have a less combative communication style. This is probably why a lot of ENTP might test as ENFP; because they're not argumentative and don't fit the stereotype.
100% agree + some. Any subject I debate on is one I know backwards forwards and sideways and only with allies. With competition, I listen and observe to build a strategy for walking away with a win. And, I play fair - a must.
@@private_ventures2592 It's more of a fluid process that continues to build when we allow what we've learned to influence our future beliefs and actions. I am a female ENTP and only use 'duels' to learn and understand more. Men and women are socialized much differently in our cultures.
3rd point - empathy. I would NEVER put someone else through anything that I wouldn't willingly undergo myself. Most people just never find out how strong they are! And I'm here to help with that! 🤣
@@valdasdr8432We look at the bigger picture. Tiny little feelings being hurt by tiny little things does not help humanity. We're more empathetic for "people" (Fe) not petty individuals (Fi).
Loved point 2#- I’m really ambitious but always felt like I was damned to be incompetent because I didn’t naturally have the organizational talent of my peers (adhd). It’s really healing to know that ENTP’s aren’t cursed to be this way; and we can be disciplined and unwavering for things we are truly passionate about- ENTP
@@Vinsue96 mmh I recoment writing books. Maybe children books? I mean they sell well, and don't take that much time. If you're lucky you know somebody who can draw? or creating music for children on TH-cam. Or create one hour videos about rainsounds or forest sounds XD. Work smart, not hard. I'm INFP and I stream together with my ENTP husband but luckily I love drawing and burn for our goals, so I create pretty much everything, the avatrs, new outfits, Emotes, artworks etc. and I also earn money while creating that stuff for others. I love our energie, my calm reversed energie and his chatotic raging energy, I want him to be able to do voice acting, I really believe that he has a talent for it. so he entertains the viewers with his gameplay, the thing he loves the most (well we are both gamer). So another big tip of mine is look for someone who is actually willing to do the work you have in mind. ....it's so funny that you have the same mindset as him XD that'S his biggest dream, just chillin his live without having to work and waist his life in the hamster weal. We want to break out of the circle so I want us to achive this goal. I won't give up, I look at it as a tree that grows bigger and bigger from time to time, like our community and later we can seel merch and invest the money in things that will create value and more money. I also want to gain a lot of money so we can have a positive impact on the world and change it for the better, that is my main goal behind it. I don't mind putting in most of the work behind the scenes. He also wants to start with trading and investing.
Brother I’ve struggled with the exact problem you named an an ENTP. That all changed when I found a satisfying blue collar business in Soft washing exteriors. Alls it take is finding something you enjoy (visually) and feels valuable. Start there, you’ll find it brother!
This was the most insightful and accurate way to explain ENTPs' misconceptions and what really is in them. I know that well from my ENTP brother. Why he acts the way he does. And understanding this is how he functions was what caused us to never fight again in years. Even if we appear to be the complete opposites (ISFJ here). I understand him...and I wish more people would too instead of judging from the Joker's facade.
ENTP actually have lots of empathy for people, animals and the whole planet. We show empathy through logic and reasoning, just because we dont show it your way does not negate of our empathy.We love deeply and care for the well being for others and trust and believe if we mean harm to you, you wouldnt even know what hit you.
YAS 👏🏻 KING 👏🏻 finally someone talked about entp’s perfectionism and how we can become similar do INFJ when having a developed Fe! also about the arguing is just so true, like, it’s not YOU that we’re disagreeing with and sometimes we even agree but also what if we’re wrong? what if we’re blinding ourselves to see something something that is missing because we’re so focused and sure about our opinions? we try to explore different perspectives for curiosity as an exercise and often want to share these thoughts or challenge other people to do the same!
@@queenofgoldenhearts INFJ here. You wrote like you have something to aspire to. I have some ENTP friends and colleagues. It's love and hate, but mostly love. I respect and admire the fascinating ways youbuse Ne, and I'd say I may bargain it for this "so admired Ni dom of INFJ (I have it around 90%) that brings up ideas that only a few understand. My only concern with you guyz and now I know, is that I have to explain you that when you seek for boundaries in me, you don' t find them not because you don't have already surpassed them... but because of my nature. I have already gone thru this talk with one or two and things are way better now. We were close before, we argued, and we are sincerely closed now. And it is NOT true that one cannot step back from our doorslams (sometimes and for the good).
2nd point - abandoning projects. Guilty ... so many times! But not because I'm distractible (well, maybe 20% of the time) or undisciplined (20%) or lazy (never! 🤣), but because the end result of the project would yield quite a BORING result. I seek to create something joyful AND exceptional AND meaningful, and not replicate a variation of the same old, same old, that everyone else seems to be making.
Takes practice & skill for you to make something truly exceptional, think about it like this. For once focus on the SMALL details! Like practice, perhaps you may be a little to focused on the bigger picture which is causing you to ONLY focus on that and not on how to refine such skill SO you can get to that picture you want. Practice sucks and my brain hates doing it but boy does it work (and I hate too assume you don't, but it's been something I have struggled with for a while lol. Doesn't hurt to share if it HAS been something you are struggling with)
@@ronan5642 I appreciate your reply, but I'm pretty sure I got it sorted for a while now. My secret was to not worry about what others thought. I made my project for MY delight, not for anyone else's. Forget what marketing advice you've learned. That's how you get sucked into mediocrity and competing with others. Just be yourself ... fully, gloriously, radiantly. Others (the RIGHT others) will notice and be attracted to your shine. ✨💖✨
Empathy IS amoral. We can use it to put ourselves in our enemy's shoes to exploit their deepest fears and then we build the road to their destruction. On the other hand we reevaluate the situation and choose to let them live out the rest of their pathetic lives in their own ruin. I like options lol 🤣😂
that's interessting as a INFP I can do it to but If I want to destroy someone I do it hidden and when they least expect it. Ruin their life and their mental state from the shadows. also hearting them on their weakest emotional point.
To do something like that from behind the curtain says two things about you. #1, you have no ego to receive credit for humiliating a person Publicly and receiving all the credit and #2 You are truly darker than I am. CONGRATULATIONS!!! @@Cuteemogirl94
A strong Fe ENTP here and ivd like to share my experience in regards of the points you mentioned : 1. Argumentative It's true that for the most of my life i've been always argumentative and i confirm it's never been for malicious reasons it's always to gain more info or to play with other people, see i'm not a person who enjoys a night out, safari or even simple leisures such as dining out...I'm though the type of person to enjoy a good conversation about anything as long as you're willing to truly speak your mind and express your thoughts freely. That being said not many people are actually willing to do so and if they do most of them take things way too personally which is a trait i really hate which led to me being the least argumentative least judgmental in my circle. Honestly at this point i'm more of a people pleaser than ExFJ lol and lately i've been hating that so i became less talktive and less outgoing generally, some've noticed others haven't.... Yeah... I'm currently really disappointed in people around me which leads us to... 2. Idealistic to the point of literally doing nothing You don't know how much i appreciate the way you explained this point so perfectly so thank you very much. I haven't really noticed that about myself untill recently with my friends that i'm too GREEDY! My expectations are too high and too idealistic eventhough i encourage others to be realistic all the time lol, i want to know, learn and do everything so quickly and so perfectly that i end up doing absolutely nothing. I'm never satisfied about anything my work my body my demeanor... Nothing! I really hope i'm in the exaggerated pathological stage and it's my problem not a general ENTP problem because it's really difficult and it's sad and in your words it's making me a "wasted potential" 3. Empathetic We're really underrated in that department, remember when i said i'm a strong Fe ENTP, my Fe is so strong that i notice stuff before my xxFJs friends and tbh i hate it, maybe because i'm in unhealthy loop and i can't use my Fe properly but i do care a lot if people don't give me the same treatment i give them back and i do care a lot about random people around and it's annoying because if i don't act nicely i feel like i'm satan himself... Again i hope it's a "me" problem not an ENTP thing
As a strong ENTP(42, M), I think I would say that for those with high ideals and perfectionist tendencies, it's essential to pose a few reflective questions to oneself: 1. Does it truly matter? Would your future self, five years from now, care as deeply as you currently do? 2. If it does matter, why does it hold such significance? Here, I'd echo Feynman's cautionary advice: "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." Furthermore, it's beneficial to embrace the mindset that "it's about progress, not perfection." Also, remember that "whatever you place on a pedestal will own you." I find this last one to be a useful reminder to back off and re-evaluate the situation, and ask myself 'what do I want' rather than be led by natural ENTP furiously curious traits.
ENTPs in a Nutshell: will play-fight with words and discussions like cute little puppies or kittens, while others just ignore the "play" part and feel attacked even if it's not the intention. Let's face it, most people just want to have fun, not harm people, and ENTP's are no exception - INFP
@@DalbirChanahardcore ENTP here. YES YES YES. Life is so random and short that it must be simply embraced and loved. Yes, sometimes it’s hard to stop doing something because the ideas keep coming, but that’s not being a perfectionist ..it’s just enjoying the process to much. Lol. Btw, Very few things belong on that pedestal 😊. I really like being able to read the comments of other ENTP’s ..we r a bit of a rare breed.
@@Vinsue96 Honestly, I don't really want to be any other type, but I do enjoy thinking what that would be like. And yeah the pedestal is really small for us naturally irreverant type.
I have never felt seen and this video gives hope, I never explain the way I am to anyone, surely because of pride but also, very few people tries to see beyond what the ENTP displays. Being close to us require a certain softness in a soul. I think that the ENTP might also use Fe as a mask to navigate through society, but by doing too much of it, they loose touch with their Ti, which is their best tool to succeed in life. It is a delicate balance for this personality.
I believe that's one of the reasons a lot of INFPs are obsessed with ENTPs XD. I'm INFP and my husband is ENTP. I'm here to understand him even better. Also we love authentic people and ENTPS are super authentic and I also love thie honesty. INFP can look through the surface and look into the feelings, we are great at imagining and feeling what a person has gone through, without actually having to experience it. My empathy is a blessing and a curse at the same time.
Omg they care the most. I've never met a bigger baby. And they'll spend 100% of their energy trying to hide it instead of coming to peace with it alone. Tells me God doesn't exist but secretly has a Bible app on his phone? Come on.
as a INFP I agree. MY husband is ENTP but I'm glad that he showed me his true emotions from the start. He tells me everything that bothers him because I won't laugh, I will understand. But sometimes he tends to bottle it up if the topic involves being jelous of people that achived his goals and then he talks bad about them and acts as if they didn't work towards their goals and that it took years to achive them...that's one of the topics that make me angry and sad at the same time, because I do understand his and his thoughts but aso don't
THIS is my hubby.....civil discourse to discuss issues, come up with new ideas and move in the best direction whether it was his idea or not. He LOVES verbal debating! He is very idealistic and can be disappointed in others/society. OMG #3 spot on.
As an INTP I sometimes envy other NT types for their ability to get shit done. If I had to choose another type I would be an ENTP because I wouldn't want to switch to a judging type. We INTPs might dive deeper into topics and ideas than others but that rarely pays off so we struggle a lot.
@@nehemiah9190 as far as i can tell as a fellow NTP, i bet changing personality type would have to be extremely boring, since there's no time to explore whatever our Ti/Fi hearts (and brains) desire
ENTP here, I dont get anything done lol, im way too scattered, ADHD doesnt help either . Gotta get that Si stronger but I've been stuck in an "Fe-grip", even thou ive always been Fe heavy to the degree of mistypung myself as ENFJ. Just tryna work on my relationships with people and trying to make myself more relatable because I now realize how important it is to vibe with others
@@itsgonbtw3837 not really. the -A/-T has nothing to do with MBTI. Yes, it does add some information, but it's as if i'd say my MBTI, Big 5 and Enneagram types (which would be even more accurate). The issue with the "5th" letter is, that 16personalities is mixing up MBTI with the Big 5 (Big 5 is simply 1000x easier to make an accurate test for), while the latter considers 5 independent scales and the former is built up through an ordered function stack (and thus having 2 intertwined/dependent components, 1st the functions present in the stack and 2nd the order of these functions), thus varying hugely in how they work. It's as if you finish a book summary with the weather outside the window while you read the book. Yes, it's additional information, but it has not much to do with the subject
As an INTP I totally understand that there's only curiosity beneath the confrontational façade of an ENTP. They usually just pick the worst times and people to start think tanking with. One-on-one they are amazing conversationalists for INTPs, but in a crowd they are our endearing entertainment.
I get an ego bust whenever you update an ENTP video, not because they make me feel awesome (although yes) but because it makes me feel like a human being HAHAHA
I think sometimes being an ENTP we are more likely to poke and prod people who are emotionally driven as a way to try and understand something that doesn't make sense to us. Or perhaps with the intention that our prodding an emotional person might somehow provoke them to act more logical. Obviously that isn't what typically happens in those situations though. Instead they just become more emotionally driven.
@@hikaryagravity, enjoy prodding emotionally driven people? Is that what you're asking? No, not really. I think we just have difficulty with emotional responses. It makes us uncomfortable. So we prod in hopes of somehow eliciting a different response. We generally aren't looking for anger. We are usually reaching for humor in most cases. Since we would rather laugh than cry we assume everyone else would prefer that as well. It's one of the reasons ENTP's don't generally enjoy sappy movies.
@@Vinsue96, yes I think you're right. It's not really voluntary or a thought out plan. I was just trying to elaborate on the reason why I think we end up doing it.
@@Wildberryquilting agree, but I always remember the saying, “What we see in others is just a mere reflection of ourselves”. Us ENTP’s really get attacked sometimes but I always repeat that saying to myself. All of its so subjective lol.
I genuinely think that calling ENTPs the devil's advocate is the culprit of the misunderstanding as it's very biased morally; (Just a remainder) personalities are NOT a way to determine people's morals, that's a whole another story that has nothing to do with personalitie types, stop stereotyping!
@@DalbirChana I am currently recruiting searing advocate members of my club to banish the Hellbanning stealth tactics of the TH-cam censorship inferno 🔥
ENTPs are devil advocate because they argue no matter what not because they excuse the bad, they are capable of finding arguments for everything even in the wrong direction, it doesn't make them bad persons at all.
Hwy buddy what are some of the things that you are 100% sure can only apply to ENTPs ? I think I might be one but I can’t say for sure, maybe we can explore that too so we can make it a universal fact or sth ifkwim. Cheers.
What happened? Do you mean that they asked questions about the pandemic/lockdowns/mask mandates and got banned for being ‘offensive’, or am I misreading?
I guess entp were the least likely to take experimental drugs. We all lost friends then. And got called all sorts. Then, I always wondered about how people could all start hating others. We all saw it then. Absolute magic
I think the most accurate feature about entps that fit me the most is the argumentative part. I know a lot of people, but only a few are my close friends. Even some people in my family are not close to me simply because of the lack of "response" from them when I start a subject. I tend to realise now that I truly never judge people on something except indirectly value their existence in my life by the amount of creativity and stimulation they bring into my life, and the best way to do that is by making me talk, or listen.
PS: I also understand why some people don't like me, I start a subject about sharks, and end up talking about the apocalypse, and after 35 minutes of talking I go back to talking about a scene in Jaws, and make a metaphor or a link between the 343592 concepts I just talked about, I think I'm just a crazy person like all the Entps around the world lol
Deadly accurate from the beginning to the banned from the dischord servers... Only, I like to prove people wrong when they are right? Hmm, not sure I do... but I could see the fun it in some situations, come to think of it... Appreciate the bad influence!
as an intp who enjoys verbal fighting just as much as entps albeit with a terrible social battery, i always catch myself using my empathy in sadistic ways and it really makes me have the need to re-evaluate what kind of person i am
I guess I'll join the fray and add some opinions of my own. First, ENTPs care a lot. They care about the truth, and the long term consequences you'll face if they don't tell you plainly. Most people are considered kind if they say a nice word while you're headed for disaster. Also, they don't really argue in the sense most people would think, because they are not attached to any particular stance. You agreeing with them doesn't change how they like you. The alleged argument is simply a discussion to explore views.
(INTJ) I get frustrated with ENTPs. They can be either my favourite or least favourite people. I think the chief criticism the rest of us would level at them is, 'yes, but you've got to stand for something'. I have absolutely no problem with playing devil's advocate, but ENTPs all too often play it so much that they end up actually advocating for the devil. If they want to play the game of intellectual detachment, they would be better to imitate their INTP cousins, rather than actually living out an idea and then suddenly abandoning it.
As an ENTP, I kinda get that - but for me I would say that our 'stand for something' beliefs is simply that we must all question our beliefs and such. Without questioning nothing will ever improve or get better. And then for abandoning ideas, yeah its frustrating for us too, hahaha, but I always feel better knowing I have knowledge in a whole bunch of subjects than deep knowledge in one. But that's just differences in how we prefer things. I know my Dad (ISTJ) cannot fathom my desire to know lots of things and not just one thing in depth
@@carolinemasson7172 I think that spread of attention is a key difference between ENTPs and INTPs. I think INTPs are interested in lots of different things, and often lots of new things too, but they will sustain an interest in something longterm. Do you think Tucker Carlson is an ENTP? I'm cutting to the worst incarnation I can think of for an example, but it makes my stomach churn the way he can publicly extol one idea while believing something else. Anyone who can preach something to the nation night after night while actually believing something else entirely probably needs two to the back of the head.
Thank you for this video. I left an old friend a few years ago because of his questionable views on certain points of morality. Had I considered that he was "debating" with me over these issues, I may have approached the situation differently. One of the main reasons I'm drawn to MBTI is to be able to understand those who differ from me! I fear I may die a hopeless INFP. I would rather believe I'm the one lacking than to lose respect for friend.
nawrr, not leaving them! But even as an ENTP there is an extent to what we will argue from. Usually if I'm arguing from the perspective of a particularly questionable perspective, I'll let my friends know that I don't actually believe it so they don't do this lmoaoo. Also, as an ENTP, there are definitely times where I've argued something I genuinely believe in and when my friend has a very different view on it, it grates against me and makes me almost irritated with them - so I get in a way kinda stopping being friends with someone if their views are very morally questionable!
as a fellow INFP, i can 100% agree, MBTI and the awareness of others is incredibly useful to understand what is happening and how to act for the best outcome
@@carolinemasson7172 as i understand it, for ENTPs it's morally questionable to not question moral.... well, if that makes sense, idk. Anyways, i think ENTPs love arguing so they can find the biggest truth and thus improve the morality of their actions through exceptional understanding and consideration of any possible angle. Sure, it might be immoral to sympathise with a murderer, but it's just as immoral to condemn someone to be a murderer who might actually be innocent on a second or third look, and thus, every side should get a chance to be explored and understood
yes, BUT dont do an INFP one because we dont want to get fought/defeated 🥺, and also, definitely do an ESTJ one, cause they deserve defeat the most of all types 😠
Man the second point is so true, this is the one thing people completely miss on ENTP´s. In reality they are people who want the best outcomes and get frustrated with anything less.
Was surprised to suddenly see a whole video about my MBTI type pop up on TH-cam, it was for sure unexpected. It means people have these misconceptions and the topic is interesting for enough people, like wow.
so like all the P types the need to accept that failure is ok and that you learn from failures. I'm a INFP and I procastinated a lot in the past but that changes once I actually started and realisted that I can only achive my goals if I start and keep going, even on days when my emotions get the better of me. For example, drawing a little bit every day is better than regretting it.
"they just want to simulate what it might be like" soo accurate 😭😂 as well as "not always heading the direction they're pointing". Confuses ppl 9 times out of 10 😂
Us ENTPs are too compassionate, even my ENFJ mother asks me why I don't show this 'good side' of me, but honestly, sometimes even that's for other people's own good.
A wild Entp here I prefer playing dumb and making people completely break down there arguments and do this to both sides it gives your more insight than if you challenged it
as a ENTP i love playing dumb. make it so easy to get information, perspective, attitude and easy to ditch out when i'm not interestiing in that topic or person anymore. Anybody relate? or is it just me thing? btw is there any type that like playing dumb as well??
i mean... a well made imagination of * something * can teach us just as much as doing it irl can.. except our imagination tends to act more in a productive way, since we got more control over the situation - INFP
We aren't 'tricking' someone into arguing, in all likelyhood we aren't going into a conversation and prodding so we can get into an argument. It's probably because either we want to understand. Take it as an argument if you will, but we most definitely aren't some boogie man who likes to troll others irl lmfao
thank you, I'm actually studying my own type to understand the difference between me and stereotypes, tho I must say that I do lack a bit of empathy and struggle a lot to understand moods and support\feedback other people naturally so I envy fe types here sometimes
Im an ENTP and sometimes while Im making a point I already see the opposite point of view. And thus disagreeing with myself while still talking. Luckily nobody notices.😂
Your points are especially true for type 7's, which seem to be extra common amongst ENTPs. Valuing the need to see something from all perspectives doesn't make someone directly agree or disagree on a point. More like arguing for another point of view that could be had by someone else, but not necessarily that person's true standpoint on the topic.
Your third point is quite problematic. If someone correctly empathizes with another's perspective only to get under their skin, that is quite a sadistic behaviour. I remember Walter Issacson's biography of Steve Jobs. There is a statement that roughly goes like this. "Those who watch his cutting and cold remarks to others might conclude that Jobs lacked empathy. However, it was the opposite, he clearly was able to accurately gauge the emotions of another person. He just used that knowledge to critique them in the most brutal and cutting way". Now this don't mean Jobs was ENTP. I strongly believe he is ISTP.
As a mature ENTP male, I was shocked when I took the OCEAN personality tests. My Agreeableness score was only 11%. Whereas my Compassion score was near the male norm, my Politeness score was only 3%. I'm a perfectly polite individual in the traditionalist sense of the word, but Politeness is a dimension of intrusive challenging of normative assumptions. This questioning and interrogative need for a clear definition makes my rhetoric precise. I use editing software that tightens my grammar and loose expressions improperly learned from my Si experiences. A good ear allows my extensive vocabulary to continually play with words. I've discovered that much of humor is the poetic application of sounds. Like music, a comedic riff is the product of a flow state of consciousness.
It's fascinating how people put their identities on mbti as if it's accurate and can explain their authenticity. Personality is superficial and can easily change. Nevertheless mbti can give some valuable information about your personality to find more about yourself but this shouldn't be the criteria to know oneself.
I am going to disagree about disagreeing ;) I often disagree with the majority opinion and love to pull peoples ideas apart thread by thread.... My favourite way to raise an uncomfortable idea or dismantle someones ideas is to guide them down the path themselves. Ask them questions, walk them down the garden path, and then watch their faces drop when they find themselves coming to a controversial conclusion. It's a thing of beauty.
feeling seen at a time when masking my perfectionist grief has been borderline suffocating. as a female ENTP I probably look like Mary Poppins juggling fun size insights, articulate and never out of balance. yet overstretching to finalise challenging products (that make transformative sense, have sound ethical procedures, resilience and clear deliverables) brings about a sea change that sweeps away the outlook that helped build the products in the first place. or it’s just narcissist shame throwing me off my war horse again
i relate a lot to entp's and how they see arguing as a game. to me it feels like some sort of improv chess but i don't wanna win, i want you to keep throwing curve balls at me.
I really disagree with you saying I have a desire to stump someone who I know to be correct. You are wrong, Love Who. We are truth seekers. Is it possible we could get bored and do such a thing? Yes. But just to slip that in there with no caveats? You ain't exactly got you the beat on our pulse as closely as you may give yourself credit for.
@@Siansonea you're right i don't understand because mbti isn't that deep, but what i do know is that you might have to work on yourself instead of watching videos generalizing people you hate. bro consume something positive instead
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Hello there fellow ENTPs
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Jesus loves you ❤️ please turn to him and repent before it's too late. The end times described in the Bible are already happening in the world.
@@L17_8 Bro, the devil might be an ENTP but that doesn't mean all ENTPs are devils
Hello, fellow ENTP and smash player
xxFP: dont try me
ENTP: this looks like a job for me
my husband pretty much every day XD
me with my ENTP classmate (it gets annoying ngl)
Consider this perspective, an ENTP won't usually argue with someone they already have little to no respect for. If an ENTP is debating you over seemingly nothing then they are reassuring themselves of their respect for you and the value of your ideas. It can also be a way of bonding with you by aligning to your perspective on a matter and grounding themselves from their flights of fancy.
Fr sometimes I just give an alternative perspective to an idea or plan so ik they have considered all avenues so they don't get stuck up later
Tell me how can I just not procrastinate my life away. I want to jump topics like a madman and I believe in utopic realization of my ideas. Double whammy.
@@kartikpandey8739you miss the point.
@@kartikpandey8739you'd be sat wondering the use of fire and sticks and stones, if it wasn't for people setting up this system you move in.
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I have an ENTP friend and he does argue for things he doesn't agree with all the time. Sometimes he argues the craziest things and I have to remind myself that this isn't what he truly believes.
same 😂 when he gets on my nerves he's like "I'm not even arguing with you"
Omg.... yeah.. liek thta one time i was arguing wiht my sister that objects have the presence of their creators in them becuase they cant exist wihtout thir cretaors
as a INFP I have to say this is very mindblown@@VixieShadowX_sngbrd_X
For ENTPs, the argument is separate from the person. You'll rarely hear an ENTP use an ad hominem in an argument, and it's not uncommon for them to go, "ooh, good point" when you refute their argument
Yes, I've lost many friends through "the argument", it's a joy. But other people actually take it personally.
I'd add another thing: Not every ENTP is argumentative. ENTPs are first and foremost curious and open minded. They love exploring new ideas, which often involves taking the idea apart, asking questions and looking for contradictions. Not every ENTP however, is a "devil's advocate." They might prioritize learning over dissecting. Or they might just have a less combative communication style. This is probably why a lot of ENTP might test as ENFP; because they're not argumentative and don't fit the stereotype.
You KNOW a non ENTP came up with “The Debater” lol. We really r “The Discussers” 😂🤣, we discuss and analyze and don’t argue black and white.
100% agree + some. Any subject I debate on is one I know backwards forwards and sideways and only with allies. With competition, I listen and observe to build a strategy for walking away with a win. And, I play fair - a must.
people gotta start talking about this more
We might prioritize learning to an extent, but the duel itself is the real goal.
@@private_ventures2592 It's more of a fluid process that continues to build when we allow what we've learned to influence our future beliefs and actions. I am a female ENTP and only use 'duels' to learn and understand more. Men and women are socialized much differently in our cultures.
3rd point - empathy. I would NEVER put someone else through anything that I wouldn't willingly undergo myself. Most people just never find out how strong they are! And I'm here to help with that! 🤣
Gigachad mindset
@@mathiasstrom7790 Nah ... I'd just call it a big sister mindset 😏
Same ✨
Real
+@@TheLadyOdin-GuidingWarriors UNBELIEVABLY BASED
Entp here, we're much more empathetic than many of y'all 👀
as an INFP, i dont feel adressed 😛
yeah exactly, and I hate that. Superficial meaningless empathy that only exacerbates the problem for the subject is not empathy at all.
Damn right we are!
@@valdasdr8432We look at the bigger picture. Tiny little feelings being hurt by tiny little things does not help humanity. We're more empathetic for "people" (Fe) not petty individuals (Fi).
Loved point 2#- I’m really ambitious but always felt like I was damned to be incompetent because I didn’t naturally have the organizational talent of my peers (adhd). It’s really healing to know that ENTP’s aren’t cursed to be this way; and we can be disciplined and unwavering for things we are truly passionate about- ENTP
Quick question…what r your ambitions? I always question what is worthy of our ENTP lives except for stop working and doing whatever we want each day.
@@Vinsue96 mmh I recoment writing books. Maybe children books? I mean they sell well, and don't take that much time. If you're lucky you know somebody who can draw? or creating music for children on TH-cam. Or create one hour videos about rainsounds or forest sounds XD. Work smart, not hard. I'm INFP and I stream together with my ENTP husband but luckily I love drawing and burn for our goals, so I create pretty much everything, the avatrs, new outfits, Emotes, artworks etc. and I also earn money while creating that stuff for others. I love our energie, my calm reversed energie and his chatotic raging energy, I want him to be able to do voice acting, I really believe that he has a talent for it. so he entertains the viewers with his gameplay, the thing he loves the most (well we are both gamer). So another big tip of mine is look for someone who is actually willing to do the work you have in mind. ....it's so funny that you have the same mindset as him XD that'S his biggest dream, just chillin his live without having to work and waist his life in the hamster weal. We want to break out of the circle so I want us to achive this goal. I won't give up, I look at it as a tree that grows bigger and bigger from time to time, like our community and later we can seel merch and invest the money in things that will create value and more money. I also want to gain a lot of money so we can have a positive impact on the world and change it for the better, that is my main goal behind it. I don't mind putting in most of the work behind the scenes. He also wants to start with trading and investing.
Brother I’ve struggled with the exact problem you named an an ENTP.
That all changed when I found a satisfying blue collar business in Soft washing exteriors.
Alls it take is finding something you enjoy (visually) and feels valuable. Start there, you’ll find it brother!
This was the most insightful and accurate way to explain ENTPs' misconceptions and what really is in them. I know that well from my ENTP brother. Why he acts the way he does. And understanding this is how he functions was what caused us to never fight again in years. Even if we appear to be the complete opposites (ISFJ here). I understand him...and I wish more people would too instead of judging from the Joker's facade.
ENTP actually have lots of empathy for people, animals and the whole planet. We show empathy through logic and reasoning, just because we dont show it your way does not negate of our empathy.We love deeply and care for the well being for others and trust and believe if we mean harm to you, you wouldnt even know what hit you.
YAS 👏🏻 KING 👏🏻 finally someone talked about entp’s perfectionism and how we can become similar do INFJ when having a developed Fe! also about the arguing is just so true, like, it’s not YOU that we’re disagreeing with and sometimes we even agree but also what if we’re wrong? what if we’re blinding ourselves to see something something that is missing because we’re so focused and sure about our opinions? we try to explore different perspectives for curiosity as an exercise and often want to share these thoughts or challenge other people to do the same!
@@queenofgoldenhearts INFJ here. You wrote like you have something to aspire to. I have some ENTP friends and colleagues. It's love and hate, but mostly love. I respect and admire the fascinating ways youbuse Ne, and I'd say I may bargain it for this "so admired Ni dom of INFJ (I have it around 90%) that brings up ideas that only a few understand. My only concern with you guyz and now I know, is that I have to explain you that when you seek for boundaries in me, you don' t find them not because you don't have already surpassed them... but because of my nature. I have already gone thru this talk with one or two and things are way better now. We were close before, we argued, and we are sincerely closed now. And it is NOT true that one cannot step back from our doorslams (sometimes and for the good).
2nd point - abandoning projects. Guilty ... so many times! But not because I'm distractible (well, maybe 20% of the time) or undisciplined (20%) or lazy (never! 🤣), but because the end result of the project would yield quite a BORING result. I seek to create something joyful AND exceptional AND meaningful, and not replicate a variation of the same old, same old, that everyone else seems to be making.
Takes practice & skill for you to make something truly exceptional, think about it like this. For once focus on the SMALL details! Like practice, perhaps you may be a little to focused on the bigger picture which is causing you to ONLY focus on that and not on how to refine such skill SO you can get to that picture you want. Practice sucks and my brain hates doing it but boy does it work (and I hate too assume you don't, but it's been something I have struggled with for a while lol. Doesn't hurt to share if it HAS been something you are struggling with)
@@ronan5642 I appreciate your reply, but I'm pretty sure I got it sorted for a while now. My secret was to not worry about what others thought. I made my project for MY delight, not for anyone else's. Forget what marketing advice you've learned. That's how you get sucked into mediocrity and competing with others. Just be yourself ... fully, gloriously, radiantly. Others (the RIGHT others) will notice and be attracted to your shine. ✨💖✨
I love debating someone’s point and then afterwards debating their side better than they did and agreeing with them leaving them confused as hell
Empathy IS amoral. We can use it to put ourselves in our enemy's shoes to exploit their deepest fears and then we build the road to their destruction. On the other hand we reevaluate the situation and choose to let them live out the rest of their pathetic lives in their own ruin. I like options lol 🤣😂
that's interessting as a INFP I can do it to but If I want to destroy someone I do it hidden and when they least expect it. Ruin their life and their mental state from the shadows. also hearting them on their weakest emotional point.
To do something like that from behind the curtain says two things about you. #1, you have no ego to receive credit for humiliating a person Publicly and receiving all the credit and #2 You are truly darker than I am. CONGRATULATIONS!!! @@Cuteemogirl94
Many great men have said, never lose friends over an argument. It may be meaningless to us, but they really care.
that seems entirely insane. But I don't actually care. Proving ops point.
A strong Fe ENTP here and ivd like to share my experience in regards of the points you mentioned :
1. Argumentative
It's true that for the most of my life i've been always argumentative and i confirm it's never been for malicious reasons it's always to gain more info or to play with other people, see i'm not a person who enjoys a night out, safari or even simple leisures such as dining out...I'm though the type of person to enjoy a good conversation about anything as long as you're willing to truly speak your mind and express your thoughts freely. That being said not many people are actually willing to do so and if they do most of them take things way too personally which is a trait i really hate which led to me being the least argumentative least judgmental in my circle. Honestly at this point i'm more of a people pleaser than ExFJ lol and lately i've been hating that so i became less talktive and less outgoing generally, some've noticed others haven't.... Yeah... I'm currently really disappointed in people around me which leads us to...
2. Idealistic to the point of literally doing nothing
You don't know how much i appreciate the way you explained this point so perfectly so thank you very much.
I haven't really noticed that about myself untill recently with my friends that i'm too GREEDY! My expectations are too high and too idealistic eventhough i encourage others to be realistic all the time lol, i want to know, learn and do everything so quickly and so perfectly that i end up doing absolutely nothing. I'm never satisfied about anything my work my body my demeanor... Nothing! I really hope i'm in the exaggerated pathological stage and it's my problem not a general ENTP problem because it's really difficult and it's sad and in your words it's making me a "wasted potential"
3. Empathetic
We're really underrated in that department, remember when i said i'm a strong Fe ENTP, my Fe is so strong that i notice stuff before my xxFJs friends and tbh i hate it, maybe because i'm in unhealthy loop and i can't use my Fe properly but i do care a lot if people don't give me the same treatment i give them back and i do care a lot about random people around and it's annoying because if i don't act nicely i feel like i'm satan himself... Again i hope it's a "me" problem not an ENTP thing
As a strong ENTP(42, M), I think I would say that for those with high ideals and perfectionist tendencies, it's essential to pose a few reflective questions to oneself:
1. Does it truly matter? Would your future self, five years from now, care as deeply as you currently do?
2. If it does matter, why does it hold such significance? Here, I'd echo Feynman's cautionary advice: "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool."
Furthermore, it's beneficial to embrace the mindset that "it's about progress, not perfection." Also, remember that "whatever you place on a pedestal will own you." I find this last one to be a useful reminder to back off and re-evaluate the situation, and ask myself 'what do I want' rather than be led by natural ENTP furiously curious traits.
ENTPs in a Nutshell: will play-fight with words and discussions like cute little puppies or kittens, while others just ignore the "play" part and feel attacked even if it's not the intention. Let's face it, most people just want to have fun, not harm people, and ENTP's are no exception
- INFP
@@DalbirChanahardcore ENTP here. YES YES YES. Life is so random and short that it must be simply embraced and loved. Yes, sometimes it’s hard to stop doing something because the ideas keep coming, but that’s not being a perfectionist ..it’s just enjoying the process to much. Lol. Btw, Very few things belong on that pedestal 😊. I really like being able to read the comments of other ENTP’s ..we r a bit of a rare breed.
@@Vinsue96 Honestly, I don't really want to be any other type, but I do enjoy thinking what that would be like. And yeah the pedestal is really small for us naturally irreverant type.
A true entp wouldn't look into this made up bs too much
I have never felt seen and this video gives hope, I never explain the way I am to anyone, surely because of pride but also, very few people tries to see beyond what the ENTP displays. Being close to us require a certain softness in a soul.
I think that the ENTP might also use Fe as a mask to navigate through society, but by doing too much of it, they loose touch with their Ti, which is their best tool to succeed in life. It is a delicate balance for this personality.
Was going to comment those exact same words. Always trust Nathan to get us right!
I believe that's one of the reasons a lot of INFPs are obsessed with ENTPs XD. I'm INFP and my husband is ENTP. I'm here to understand him even better. Also we love authentic people and ENTPS are super authentic and I also love thie honesty. INFP can look through the surface and look into the feelings, we are great at imagining and feeling what a person has gone through, without actually having to experience it. My empathy is a blessing and a curse at the same time.
I think what's underrated (not by everyone) is that they're _very_ sensitive (yet tend to hide that with seemingly not caring)
Omg they care the most. I've never met a bigger baby. And they'll spend 100% of their energy trying to hide it instead of coming to peace with it alone. Tells me God doesn't exist but secretly has a Bible app on his phone? Come on.
as a INFP I agree. MY husband is ENTP but I'm glad that he showed me his true emotions from the start. He tells me everything that bothers him because I won't laugh, I will understand. But sometimes he tends to bottle it up if the topic involves being jelous of people that achived his goals and then he talks bad about them and acts as if they didn't work towards their goals and that it took years to achive them...that's one of the topics that make me angry and sad at the same time, because I do understand his and his thoughts but aso don't
THIS is my hubby.....civil discourse to discuss issues, come up with new ideas and move in the best direction whether it was his idea or not. He LOVES verbal debating! He is very idealistic and can be disappointed in others/society. OMG #3 spot on.
Don't judge us too harshly.
As an ENTP, I think a video of at least you talking instead of just the black screen would be so much better. Thank you!
Thought the same. (Also a ENTP)
As an INTP I sometimes envy other NT types for their ability to get shit done. If I had to choose another type I would be an ENTP because I wouldn't want to switch to a judging type. We INTPs might dive deeper into topics and ideas than others but that rarely pays off so we struggle a lot.
I don't know if I would want to change my personality type (also an INTP), but I definitely agree with your admiration for them to "get shit done".
as an INFP, i can relate ways too much 😂
@@nehemiah9190 as far as i can tell as a fellow NTP, i bet changing personality type would have to be extremely boring, since there's no time to explore whatever our Ti/Fi hearts (and brains) desire
ENTP here, I dont get anything done lol, im way too scattered, ADHD doesnt help either . Gotta get that Si stronger but I've been stuck in an "Fe-grip", even thou ive always been Fe heavy to the degree of mistypung myself as ENFJ. Just tryna work on my relationships with people and trying to make myself more relatable because I now realize how important it is to vibe with others
I think switching from INTP to ENTP would mean you'd get even less shit done haha
Couldn’t agree more. Odd. (ENTP-A)
entp-a? is that a 16personalities thing?
@@RENOSINCLAIRS yeah, Turbulent vs Assertive. I believe this distinction is more accurate.
@@itsgonbtw3837 not really. the -A/-T has nothing to do with MBTI. Yes, it does add some information, but it's as if i'd say my MBTI, Big 5 and Enneagram types (which would be even more accurate). The issue with the "5th" letter is, that 16personalities is mixing up MBTI with the Big 5 (Big 5 is simply 1000x easier to make an accurate test for), while the latter considers 5 independent scales and the former is built up through an ordered function stack (and thus having 2 intertwined/dependent components, 1st the functions present in the stack and 2nd the order of these functions), thus varying hugely in how they work. It's as if you finish a book summary with the weather outside the window while you read the book. Yes, it's additional information, but it has not much to do with the subject
@@itsgonbtw3837andrea is
right
I have to say, I wouldn't look into this style too much. It's quite a bit of bs
I don't give compliments over the internet very often, but you are spot on. You've made me think about things in a new way.
As an INTP I totally understand that there's only curiosity beneath the confrontational façade of an ENTP. They usually just pick the worst times and people to start think tanking with. One-on-one they are amazing conversationalists for INTPs, but in a crowd they are our endearing entertainment.
O tanking is the best bit
I get an ego bust whenever you update an ENTP video, not because they make me feel awesome (although yes) but because it makes me feel like a human being HAHAHA
I think sometimes being an ENTP we are more likely to poke and prod people who are emotionally driven as a way to try and understand something that doesn't make sense to us. Or perhaps with the intention that our prodding an emotional person might somehow provoke them to act more logical. Obviously that isn't what typically happens in those situations though. Instead they just become more emotionally driven.
So, what is your real reason to pursue it ? I think you do only because you enjoy it.
@@hikaryagravity, enjoy prodding emotionally driven people? Is that what you're asking? No, not really. I think we just have difficulty with emotional responses. It makes us uncomfortable. So we prod in hopes of somehow eliciting a different response. We generally aren't looking for anger. We are usually reaching for humor in most cases. Since we would rather laugh than cry we assume everyone else would prefer that as well. It's one of the reasons ENTP's don't generally enjoy sappy movies.
I think, and I have been told, we actually don’t even realize we r doing it. We see them as fellow ENTP’s and they see us through their eyes.
@@Vinsue96, yes I think you're right. It's not really voluntary or a thought out plan. I was just trying to elaborate on the reason why I think we end up doing it.
@@Wildberryquilting agree, but I always remember the saying, “What we see in others is just a mere reflection of ourselves”. Us ENTP’s really get attacked sometimes but I always repeat that saying to myself. All of its so subjective lol.
I genuinely think that calling ENTPs the devil's advocate is the culprit of the misunderstanding as it's very biased morally;
(Just a remainder) personalities are NOT a way to determine people's morals, that's a whole another story that has nothing to do with personalitie types, stop stereotyping!
I am not the Devil's advocate.
I am the Devil 👹
@@hideoussails1783 cringe
You have my sympathy fallen angel; now, are you in need of an advocate?
@@DalbirChana I am currently recruiting searing advocate members of my club to banish the Hellbanning stealth tactics of the TH-cam censorship inferno 🔥
ENTPs are devil advocate because they argue no matter what not because they excuse the bad, they are capable of finding arguments for everything even in the wrong direction, it doesn't make them bad persons at all.
You talk about this Discord server all the time, but not until you mentioned the prospect of being banned did I feel this tempted to join.
Hwy buddy what are some of the things that you are 100% sure can only apply to ENTPs ? I think I might be one but I can’t say for sure, maybe we can explore that too so we can make it a universal fact or sth ifkwim. Cheers.
@@DimashCastelluccithere's no such thing. There are overlapping tendencies among every type and everyone is in a spectrum
Thanks 4 your understanding Nathan! It not only helps others to understand us better but also it helps understanding our selves better.
RIP to all the ENTPs who fell on the LW-discord during the pandemic. You will be missed
What happened? Do you mean that they asked questions about the pandemic/lockdowns/mask mandates and got banned for being ‘offensive’, or am I misreading?
I guess entp were the least likely to take experimental drugs. We all lost friends then. And got called all sorts.
Then, I always wondered about how people could all start hating others. We all saw it then. Absolute magic
I think the most accurate feature about entps that fit me the most is the argumentative part. I know a lot of people, but only a few are my close friends. Even some people in my family are not close to me simply because of the lack of "response" from them when I start a subject. I tend to realise now that I truly never judge people on something except indirectly value their existence in my life by the amount of creativity and stimulation they bring into my life, and the best way to do that is by making me talk, or listen.
PS: I also understand why some people don't like me, I start a subject about sharks, and end up talking about the apocalypse, and after 35 minutes of talking I go back to talking about a scene in Jaws, and make a metaphor or a link between the 343592 concepts I just talked about, I think I'm just a crazy person like all the Entps around the world lol
This was unbelievably on point. 😅
I like that entp want to argue in sake of actually wanting to find a solution or like ask the uncomfortable questions that nobody wants to ask
these explanations always help put my life in perspective LOL thanks LoveWho!
Deadly accurate from the beginning to the banned from the dischord servers... Only, I like to prove people wrong when they are right? Hmm, not sure I do... but I could see the fun it in some situations, come to think of it... Appreciate the bad influence!
as an intp who enjoys verbal fighting just as much as entps albeit with a terrible social battery, i always catch myself using my empathy in sadistic ways and it really makes me have the need to re-evaluate what kind of person i am
I guess I'll join the fray and add some opinions of my own. First, ENTPs care a lot. They care about the truth, and the long term consequences you'll face if they don't tell you plainly. Most people are considered kind if they say a nice word while you're headed for disaster. Also, they don't really argue in the sense most people would think, because they are not attached to any particular stance. You agreeing with them doesn't change how they like you. The alleged argument is simply a discussion to explore views.
(INTJ) I get frustrated with ENTPs. They can be either my favourite or least favourite people. I think the chief criticism the rest of us would level at them is, 'yes, but you've got to stand for something'. I have absolutely no problem with playing devil's advocate, but ENTPs all too often play it so much that they end up actually advocating for the devil. If they want to play the game of intellectual detachment, they would be better to imitate their INTP cousins, rather than actually living out an idea and then suddenly abandoning it.
Thank you for your insight. ENTPs frequently leave me in the painful quandary of " do I stay, or do I go?"
@@julieolson1402 As in leave or stay in the conversation, or the leave the relationship, or something else?
As an ENTP, I kinda get that - but for me I would say that our 'stand for something' beliefs is simply that we must all question our beliefs and such. Without questioning nothing will ever improve or get better. And then for abandoning ideas, yeah its frustrating for us too, hahaha, but I always feel better knowing I have knowledge in a whole bunch of subjects than deep knowledge in one. But that's just differences in how we prefer things. I know my Dad (ISTJ) cannot fathom my desire to know lots of things and not just one thing in depth
@@carolinemasson7172 I think that spread of attention is a key difference between ENTPs and INTPs. I think INTPs are interested in lots of different things, and often lots of new things too, but they will sustain an interest in something longterm.
Do you think Tucker Carlson is an ENTP? I'm cutting to the worst incarnation I can think of for an example, but it makes my stomach churn the way he can publicly extol one idea while believing something else. Anyone who can preach something to the nation night after night while actually believing something else entirely probably needs two to the back of the head.
@@johnknight9150 The relationship, and it is not something I consider lightly or briefly!
Thank you for this video. I left an old friend a few years ago because of his questionable views on certain points of morality. Had I considered that he was "debating" with me over these issues, I may have approached the situation differently. One of the main reasons I'm drawn to MBTI is to be able to understand those who differ from me! I fear I may die a hopeless INFP. I would rather believe I'm the one lacking than to lose respect for friend.
nawrr, not leaving them! But even as an ENTP there is an extent to what we will argue from. Usually if I'm arguing from the perspective of a particularly questionable perspective, I'll let my friends know that I don't actually believe it so they don't do this lmoaoo. Also, as an ENTP, there are definitely times where I've argued something I genuinely believe in and when my friend has a very different view on it, it grates against me and makes me almost irritated with them - so I get in a way kinda stopping being friends with someone if their views are very morally questionable!
as a fellow INFP, i can 100% agree, MBTI and the awareness of others is incredibly useful to understand what is happening and how to act for the best outcome
@@carolinemasson7172 as i understand it, for ENTPs it's morally questionable to not question moral.... well, if that makes sense, idk. Anyways, i think ENTPs love arguing so they can find the biggest truth and thus improve the morality of their actions through exceptional understanding and consideration of any possible angle. Sure, it might be immoral to sympathise with a murderer, but it's just as immoral to condemn someone to be a murderer who might actually be innocent on a second or third look, and thus, every side should get a chance to be explored and understood
@@andreas_rrnailed it😊
@@andreas_rr yes, you nailed it, bro. ENTP here
Can you do a video on "How to *defeat* [insert mbti]" ? :D
That seems more CS joseph territory :p
NTJ move
yes, BUT dont do an INFP one because we dont want to get fought/defeated 🥺, and also, definitely do an ESTJ one, cause they deserve defeat the most of all types 😠
Man the second point is so true, this is the one thing people completely miss on ENTP´s. In reality they are people who want the best outcomes and get frustrated with anything less.
I just can't attach emotions to words and know most people get trigger because they associate words with emotions.
these people are insane, also i'm one of them
Was surprised to suddenly see a whole video about my MBTI type pop up on TH-cam, it was for sure unexpected. It means people have these misconceptions and the topic is interesting for enough people, like wow.
so like all the P types the need to accept that failure is ok and that you learn from failures. I'm a INFP and I procastinated a lot in the past but that changes once I actually started and realisted that I can only achive my goals if I start and keep going, even on days when my emotions get the better of me. For example, drawing a little bit every day is better than regretting it.
ENTP here, finally someone opened peoples eyes to the truth about us!
"they just want to simulate what it might be like" soo accurate 😭😂 as well as "not always heading the direction they're pointing". Confuses ppl 9 times out of 10 😂
Us ENTPs are too compassionate, even my ENFJ mother asks me why I don't show this 'good side' of me, but honestly, sometimes even that's for other people's own good.
A wild Entp here I prefer playing dumb and making people completely break down there arguments and do this to both sides it gives your more insight than if you challenged it
as a ENTP i love playing dumb. make it so easy to get information, perspective, attitude and easy to ditch out when i'm not interestiing in that topic or person anymore. Anybody relate? or is it just me thing? btw is there any type that like playing dumb as well??
But...
ENTP.
one cant spell ENTP without "but" 😂
If everyone gets wrong then literally nobody is right. Do you agree?
ENTP.
It makes perfect sense. thanks for making me understand them better, I'm Intj, i love entps❤😊
As an INTP, I was nodding along to most of this video. But I'm more likely to imagine an argument than trick someone into one lol
i mean... a well made imagination of * something * can teach us just as much as doing it irl can.. except our imagination tends to act more in a productive way, since we got more control over the situation
- INFP
We aren't 'tricking' someone into arguing, in all likelyhood we aren't going into a conversation and prodding so we can get into an argument. It's probably because either we want to understand. Take it as an argument if you will, but we most definitely aren't some boogie man who likes to troll others irl lmfao
About to get banned from another Discord server! Best part of my day!
They just want to simulate what disagreeing with you would like ! Hahahahah that’s amazing. Thank you for simplifying this for me
Good analysis.
thank you, I'm actually studying my own type to understand the difference between me and stereotypes, tho I must say that I do lack a bit of empathy and struggle a lot to understand moods and support\feedback other people naturally so I envy fe types here sometimes
Im an ENTP and sometimes while Im making a point I already see the opposite point of view. And thus disagreeing with myself while still talking. Luckily nobody notices.😂
Oml so true 😂😂
Vive les entps
Your points are especially true for type 7's, which seem to be extra common amongst ENTPs. Valuing the need to see something from all perspectives doesn't make someone directly agree or disagree on a point. More like arguing for another point of view that could be had by someone else, but not necessarily that person's true standpoint on the topic.
I needed this. Thanks
Your third point is quite problematic. If someone correctly empathizes with another's perspective only to get under their skin, that is quite a sadistic behaviour.
I remember Walter Issacson's biography of Steve Jobs. There is a statement that roughly goes like this.
"Those who watch his cutting and cold remarks to others might conclude that Jobs lacked empathy. However, it was the opposite, he clearly was able to accurately gauge the emotions of another person. He just used that knowledge to critique them in the most brutal and cutting way".
Now this don't mean Jobs was ENTP. I strongly believe he is ISTP.
If I ever meet this man in real life, I’m not telling him I’m an entp. Its scary how accurately he has Entp’s figured out.
completely true
Hey! Where's the rest of the video?
I thought I was the only f heavy entp
For the last time! WE ARE NOT EVIL!
true, ENTJs are XD
The thing is, Nathan, that whatever it is we get wrong about them, THEY. WILL. CORRECT. US.
As a mature ENTP male, I was shocked when I took the OCEAN personality tests. My Agreeableness score was only 11%. Whereas my Compassion score was near the male norm, my Politeness score was only 3%. I'm a perfectly polite individual in the traditionalist sense of the word, but Politeness is a dimension of intrusive challenging of normative assumptions.
This questioning and interrogative need for a clear definition makes my rhetoric precise. I use editing software that tightens my grammar and loose expressions improperly learned from my Si experiences. A good ear allows my extensive vocabulary to continually play with words. I've discovered that much of humor is the poetic application of sounds. Like music, a comedic riff is the product of a flow state of consciousness.
nto suyre if im intp or entp so I'm watching this even though i have a quiz tmorow
Lol i volunteer as your lawyer 😂
If you would like to get banned… I’m cracking up. I always get banned from everything. Oh well, such as the life of an ENTP.
It's fascinating how people put their identities on mbti as if it's accurate and can explain their authenticity.
Personality is superficial and can easily change. Nevertheless mbti can give some valuable information about your personality to find more about yourself but this shouldn't be the criteria to know oneself.
ENTP = Extroverted Notice To Proceed ... 😈😇😅
I am going to disagree about disagreeing ;) I often disagree with the majority opinion and love to pull peoples ideas apart thread by thread.... My favourite way to raise an uncomfortable idea or dismantle someones ideas is to guide them down the path themselves. Ask them questions, walk them down the garden path, and then watch their faces drop when they find themselves coming to a controversial conclusion. It's a thing of beauty.
As an ENTP I always feel empathy and don't believe in the idea of sympathy, I just can't express it.
feeling seen at a time when masking my perfectionist grief has been borderline suffocating. as a female ENTP I probably look like Mary Poppins juggling fun size insights, articulate and never out of balance. yet overstretching to finalise challenging products (that make transformative sense, have sound ethical procedures, resilience and clear deliverables) brings about a sea change that sweeps away the outlook that helped build the products in the first place. or it’s just narcissist shame throwing me off my war horse again
i relate a lot to entp's and how they see arguing as a game. to me it feels like some sort of improv chess but i don't wanna win, i want you to keep throwing curve balls at me.
The second and third one are so true!!!
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Love, who?!
what yessss
Good job
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Thanks we are weird
I wish someone could understand this irl
Very accurate
2:32 lol
Number 2..... ouch
my sister is an entp
Wtf this is real
I really disagree with you saying I have a desire to stump someone who I know to be correct. You are wrong, Love Who. We are truth seekers. Is it possible we could get bored and do such a thing? Yes. But just to slip that in there with no caveats? You ain't exactly got you the beat on our pulse as closely as you may give yourself credit for.
Petition to change and call ENTPs "The Discusser" instead!
As the "devils avodcate" is very moraly biased which contradics with the purpose of MBTI.
This makes me sure im an entp lol
I disagree :)
i agree to disagree. if you want to disagree, i will also agree with that. Oh, how the tables have turned now 😈
- INFP
@andreas_rr ......ur boring aren't ya 😀
@@hotdogeater8647 XD
"They just want to simulate what disagreeing with you would look like". Where I come from, that's called *LYING.*
Is just banter :3
@@shameemnilu2694 yeah, you don't value honesty, I get it.
@@Siansoneadamn, who hurt you?
@@nana31633 people who lie, that's who. Lying is bad, you see. I don't expect an ENTP to understand, though, so just roll with it.
@@Siansonea you're right i don't understand because mbti isn't that deep, but what i do know is that you might have to work on yourself instead of watching videos generalizing people you hate. bro consume something positive instead
You’re telling me they’re into playing Devil’s Advocate even more than me?? Gobbledygook! (INTP)
How am I able to join the discord?
It keep saying link has expired
I’m new to this lol can someone invite me or send me a new link? 🙏🏼
@L17_8. Serious….?
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