Yeah I get tired very quickly of throwing my own shoulder out having to pay myself on the back all of the time. Then it’s on!!! Sarcasm laden arguments ……i mean…”debates”! (But since I already know what your gonna say and the excuses you’ll use i of course have answers for those already. Lol
I think there is many ENTP's who aren't extroverted same way extroverted are usually. There was one video where it was explained well. I think it was ENTP vs INTP
Being an ENTP can sometimes suck! Not getting the recognition of seeing patterns that will affect a whole business and even be questioned and ridiculed about it, only to have it been correct pattern recognition some weeks later when it finally struck and then, of course, it was too late. No wonder Cynicism and Nihilism is a thing for us ENTP's :D
Totally agree. I hate when I have an amazingly logical idea but yet am ignored because maybe I’m an outsider on the situation or don’t have as much experience later to have them use my tricks to no credit or ignore my advice and make the mistakes I advised they could’ve avoided.I hate being dismissed as though I don’t know what I’m talking about, as I don’t like to speak out of my ass.
You describe what seems to be a foreign language to most! It's lonely out here sometimes isn't it? (Echo echo)Add female to your plight and we may be twins. I hear you and then some. I work in male dominant environment so what happens in addition to their delayed stolen eureka gets real interesting is when said decision makers stalk you for more ideas in the future but not in front of others so they can use your fkn operation strategies to advance themselves more .. But I have no doubt you have experienced this too as male entp. And they think we don't know what they're doing 😂 recently, i calmed my inner temper i played back with this new bff.. Told my one boss " i give it 48 hours and u will hear this at the board meeting". When he asked why I am asking this i said the game is getting old. You will know going forward; good or bad, my yes is my yes and no is no..if i am wrong give me rope to fix or fail but if i am getting f'd over _ have to painfully watch us all ineffectively double work (shoot me) they better keep up or fk off. You can tell him or not, good either way. My nurturing of team calabs does not mean i am a doormat. ~ early menopausal entp Ps: i need to get my shit together and work for myself lol. My own fault for not pushing harder earlier in life, previous door matting to try and fit in and blooded tongue-smiling thru middle management for dummies.
I think a lot of people just get stressed out or even annoyed with these "rants", however logical and reasonable. We do need to work on slowing down and restraining our communication. At least I find writing the best way as I can write at speed-of-thought, but can then re-evaluate how well I'm communicating things and hopefully sum things up a bit rather than just blurting everything out at once. Just as introverts are struggling with expressing themselves at all, especially in "competition" with socially fearless ENTPs ;)
As an entp I have learned that I need people who are as creative as me around me. I don’t want to do projects with others, but to find a buddy who will sit next to me and do their own project, is the absolute best. Especially if they are ambitious with their creativity, and can spare and share knowledge and inspiration, then you got a best friend in me.
you cleared my dilemma. i think the imposter syndrome goes way further because part of that charisma is a need to fit in, or to be accepted. just by fitting in we can view other perspectives more clearly. only thing is, when we try to fit in, we don’t intend to belong. it’s just done for the purpose of trying to understand which satisfies our curiosity and social needs.
Oh my God. How did this guy explain my whole deep never spoken of struggles. Amazing. Being a female ENTP I think is harder because having female friends has always felt more like a chore or a good deed. I have always connected with men more but having male friends can get weird.
I laughed at this😂 yeah women aren’t exactly the most intellectual creatures. As a great man once said during a long hilarious rant about women “If chicks didn’t have tits and pussies we’d probably just throw rocks at them”
ENTPs are so self-conscious about how they could be percieved that they have mastered so many techniques that make them unique and charismatic which contributes to the social attraction they manifest.
me being an ENTP, sometimes I get caught manipulating the feelings of others, it seems that I am aware of what others feel for me and I also know what to do to make this happen with each specific person.
Thinks about x: Does x: recognises x's effect: recognises former knowledge of x's effect: questions why I am doing x to begin with. Are my intentions honest? Questions self. Cannot come up with a satisfactorily conclusive answer. Alternatively: does y, sees new reaction, oooh new thing!!! New data!! More to play with!!
I don't build rapport. I seek stimulation. I don't make jokes for others, i makes jokes for myself, that i share with others. I am not telling people that i am right, i simply bring up points. I don't think you are wrong but you are speaking as an observer. Asking myself how i feel about things just returns a question mark. It's also easier to follow my likes than figure out my wants.
@Lapislazuli it's hella hard to choose what you want when there's so much to choose from and you've already experienced 10 versions of a thing in your imagination.
"Asking myself how I feel returns a question mark" This curse man! I thought there was something wrong with me until i found out it's just how ENTP's roll. I hate it though. Why can't i see myself as easily as i can see through others?!
That’s very true. Just today I was in school and it was my teachers birthday. I said: “Are you sad that your older now.” Some people just don’t get my humor...
As an ENTP growing up I constantly bot my tongue and kept my internal dialogue to myself, but now that im in my early 20s I’ve learned to speak my mind and speak my truth a lot more. I feel that the world is better for it as long as I don’t weaponize truth and keep pure intentions
Hahahaha. This sounds soo much like me! God I love fellow ENTPs, it's so refreshing and I feel free to by myself, lol. I speak my mind many times and then realize oops, that can go wrong, they are not getting it. She's getting really older, so what?! No reason to be offended but yeah, clown world sometimes
Oh man - you hit the nail on the head x1000 on what we want to hear as compliments...saying we're "funny" or "smart" etc doesn't mean much at all, though pointing out & celebrating our work/influence is exactly what we want to hear deep down.
I/ENFP just wanted to let all you ENTP’s out there know that you’re all awesome!!! I may not be the type of person who would challenge you are be worth your accomplishments as a fellow companion but just know that you dudes & dudets are some of the most entertaining, insightful geniuses of the human race! Keep finding ways to wow me!!!
Start adopting realism and stop thinking with your emotions and you can experience this too. But beware once you loose your emotions life may become dull and uninteresting. Procede with caution only and know this once you go black, in this case you may not be able to go back
I think ENTP have mastered so many facets of themselves to appeal to people to see from their perspective... attributing to charisma... That over time it gets harder for people to see through the veil. As much as I would like to have more genuine connections, I also fear getting myself too invested and hurt as I have seen too much of what people are capable of, at the same time I want more and some part of me is hopeful for it. But I still get stuck in this mobius feedback loop.
"As much as I would like to have more genuine connections, I also fear getting myself too invested and hurt as I have seen too much of what people are capable of, at the same time I want more and some part of me is hopeful for it" Damn I have never related to a sentence as much as this one. I have always noted that I have never ever had a romantic relationship with someone I really liked. Because the more I like someone the harder for me is to make a meaningful connection. But even when I try to, there is something inside me stopping me from doing so because of a fear of being hurt, or even worse hurting someone I really care about.
@@ihsankamil6279 my best friend is an INFJ and he definitely opens my eyes to my more vulnerable and emotional side. I’m 21 and still working on being able to open with him about stuff bc being open with him is like a different kind of raw and open. It makes me feel uncomfortable honestly but it’s something internally I need to work on.
As an autistic person who has had to LEARN to be social, rather than just feeling it naturally, I think the difference, socially, with an ENTP is that they have a social life for different reasons than many 'social' personalities. ENTPs see people as mental exercise and respect people who fight back.
As an entp, while I do have the ability to manipulate ppl, it feels wrong so I don't do it. And when I do, I don't have the energy to keep it up and ppl eventually realize I wasn't being me lol. Maybe my external feeling isn't skilled enough?
As one too I can see when others are being manipulative, which is my main purpose is making sure someone doesn't get take advantage of or hoodwinked. I love being an entp, but the boredom can get to me. However think this, if you are bored, you're the boring one.
Since young age I've realized it's easy to manipulate ppl (and by manipulate I understand making ppl change thier opinions to my liking) so I've made myself a promise I wouldn't do that. And yes, ENTP here.
I've noticed that manipulation comes in two different types. I myself despise emotional manipulation and I honestly hate it, it's also quite good that ENTP's can sense when someone is trying to manipulate us. Now the second type of "manipulation" is which I don't necessarily dislike - Putting out irrefutable logic and reasoning which changes people's opinion into one that benefits me (and doesn't really harm them).
So true, I am always trying to be the best until I am and realize that is not what I wanted at all. At the end of the day my goal is not to be the best or the most successful, rather it is to be appreciated. I want people to recognize my ability, even if I am the best, If I surround myself with people that do not appreciate anything I do, I get depressed. But the other way around is also true, If I surround myself with people that constantly compliment me without challenging me, then I feel empty I feel like it is not deserved. For me, the best place is to be somewhere in the middle, with people that appreciate me but also constantly challenge me.
Word for word i share your desire for that middle environment... for those same reasons. I had the pleasure of being part of a team with that perfect ballance twice in life and miss them so much. So rewarding and so hard to find.
The habitual use of charisma subliminally creating Imposter Syndrome is some very heavy breakfast. Subbed for sure. I'd buy a "Cross-Contextual Thinking is my Superpower" shirt. And wear it too.
As an ENTP i feel like each engagement is a performance. Afterwards, i score myself. Reliving the glory of accomplishment or prob solving (sometimes the achievement was my own prob to be solved) OR in agony for a mistake or lost opportunity. Then I vow to myself to overcome the obstacle and not let that happen again. Anybody else?
I tend to use my Fe on all people (even those I don't know at all) because I'm happy when people like me and I don't want them to hate me. And that's definitely the bad side - thinking about what others think of me (is it because logical types require acknowledgment?) and my distrust to everyone (bc my nonexistent Fi can be very hurt by others). I'm trying to fight it so I don't stick to "what anyone thinks" bullshits. Sometimes, however, in society I feel like an actor playing for the people around me, and when someone doesn't like me, I regret every second of my attention to him. I have found that mutual respect is the only thing that will convince me that a friendship will be long-lasting, trustworthy and worth investing in. I have found, that the best way to find out that respect exists in a relationship, is to expose the other person to my worse side - doubts about our relationship, cold insensitive logic, distrust. If I shows up in the worst light, but does not lose the respect of a friend, who, on the contrary, bring me out of doubt, I get my conclusion - this relationship has a future and I can fuly dedicate myself to it.
A huge part to this is zero'ing in on what someone cares about overall & appealing to that...a natural skill for that translates out to serious influence in groups if you get the chance to 1-on-1 with the members.
ENTP, I took the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator within the U.S. Military. The exam was a 3 day testing exam, Exam to indicate a person's personality and if the individual mentally and emotionally capable of performing under extreme stress, isolation and duress environments. The testing/exam was within the Special Operations/Military Intelligence Community, for a slot in a 6 man deep penetration Ranger/Airborne LRRP/LRSD Team. The 3 day exam was interesting to say the least and yes, I made the Teams.
I think I’m actually an ENTP at heart. I have some pretty severe social anxiety though so I never talk to anyone in real life. In video games however and games like VR Chat I can often be the center of attention and a real joker. People add me as friends every time I join a world and I get a lot of people adding me on discord. A lot of the time I don’t even remember people but they remember me. I feel like my true self and much happier in the virtual world than real life. In the real world I present more like an INTP/INTJ/ISTP though.
Wow I actually got a lot of great helpful information from this, what you said about relying on Charisma I realize I might be doing this. I'll go on like a first date for instance and if their sense of humor is like mine I like will make them laugh like almost the whole time, nothing but smiles and having a great time and really likes me is the vibe I get, but then we don't have a second date. I think its because I might be relying on charm and humor to get them to really like me but I am avoiding substance which is vital to make an emotional connection instead of just being humor fluff.
This is the video where I finally and definitely typed myself as an ENTP. Also where I decided to define Erik Thor as the genius of MBTI. Though, I had the feeling for some time already... Thank you!
True, people around me always asks how do I manage to get along with everyone even if I don’t really share any interest with that person or even have the same mindset , and I will be like Idk people just like me lol
This was very insightful. You actually brought some thing up that I haven't been able to fully identify in myself until I heard it. You managed to actually specify what has been going on in my head. It's amazing! As for what compliments I want to hear as an ENTP, you were absolutely right about that as well. Thanks for sharing! I really found this helpful and it definitely gave me a better understanding of myself. 👍😎
WOW, I think this video might be the most useful & relevant to my life clip that I've ever watched. Not confusing my tool (my voice & charisma) for my purpose is an invaluable takeaway. Enormous thanks!
Good points An ENTP can play a part in this dynamic by constantly resisting equilibrium and seeking novelty. With age, maturity and/or examination of one’s own feelings, values, and goals, which doesn’t come, or maybe not accessible to consciousness as easily, they can learn to not just flit from one to other superficial engagement, but to be develop deeper friendships as well. At least this has been my experience. (ETA: I personally cant relate to the part about Te Doms being ideal kind of complements - feels like Te at such high dose would drain me. I relied on some self control and self direction and judiciously dealing with Te systems for “keeping myself in check” rather than those types of people being my close relationships. Maybe this is easier for me to say though because I’m older and many of the Stuff that I have achieved or the results of my reputation or however you put it are already are there? Not to say that I don’t get unsure about my direction still...
This is accurate. I had an assignment due yesterday and I really didn't care to do it and talked my way into getting it delayed and made people forget for a while. My relationships dominate mind cause their honestly where I'm least satisfied and I haven't found that solution yet. I threw away a lot of friends, it didn't feel good and it didn't feel like me (whatever that means). I maneuvered my way out and even now I still have no full relationships. It's all barren.
I don’t feel like I have any real friends, but a decent amount of people think we’re great friends. I haven’t had a true great friend since high school, and I don’t really care. Idk if some would call that depression or something like that, I wouldn’t. So far it seems like people open up to me and they think I open up to them, but I don’t think they truly know me. I have 2 truly honest relationships with my wife and son and that’s about it.
Hmm. I write a lot, usually with lots of very specific terms and outlining; for basically everything. I do use a lot of emoji however. Especially regarding sarcasm. But, never vapid, and they're usually related to what's being said, and now, and not at all the relationship with recipient - which come to think of it, might be how some write. My more ISTJ associates I've not seen use any much. My ENTPs definitely use. Usually with humour and sarcasm.
I often just talk continuously for a few hours, while they give input as they try to understand me. I do find it annoying when yk it feels so one sided sometimes, but usually these long conversations just comes from a night of digging around the internet and now I've got all these opinions ideas whatevers to share and who ever happens to be there will just be mostly viewed by me as a ear to let off all that steam i accumulated over night. I've had friends that are entj, intp, intj and they often saw through my stuff but these days I've grown quite cautious of my words so i make sure to regulate myself and keep myself in check, but i feel like that isn't exactly a good thing, I'll learn with time though, and find a different way as i grow older
Well not with Te, but I find INFJ's quite excellent at calling me out on my BS lol. It's like an awakening slap to the face by someone who took the time and effort and contemplated just exactly what kind of wake-up-slap you actually need hahahah. Punish me for my own good UwU . Though the INFJ's like me a lot, I can feel them having to actively resist my charisma and not get sucked into it, so they can accomplish whatever plan (which they refuse to let me in on! grrrr!) they have concocted for my personal growth. The whole situation: it's quite hilarious actually.
ability to see problems people cant see... put that on my gravestone because if we boil it down, thats what we stand for... see issues ahead /before anyone else and solve problems
Ugh, I hate it when people just agree with me without reflecting on what I said. I mean, I also hate it, when people disagree with me without reflecting. But I can call them out on that. But if they just agree... Meh. xD
I can’t relate with getting away with responsibilities. I know I can do it but I don’t. Although, I accidentally find myself in that scenario but rare. I make sure everything I do are backed with truth.
Deep down, we are unrelenting problem solvers... Never had it put so succinctly; nothing drives me more than seeing something done in an worse way or seeing others struggling with something complex. The idea of a Utopia was never appealing to me as a "perfect" world would have no problems to solve which makes existence very empty and unsatisfying. When the problem is solved, the drive to do anything almost instantly disappears.
Alright. Gotta have a cheap Fiat for the Ferrari to have it's value. If all had a ferrari, it won't be so special anymore, it'll become standard, and standard is boring, and often unappreciated.
Funny indeed, I'm easy going and many people like me.. While I seldom like them back. I tend to screw it up, though, because I can suddenly attack them verbally, when I don't like their views. And not many people can handle that, strangely enough.. . Because you should be able to defend your view on matters. And.. I will respect you for it, even if I don't agree.
I was a friend with an ENTP when I called this person out on their caviler ways this person got angry and offended they never asked why I called them out most ENTP'S would probe as to why i said that instead this person cut off the friendship but that's what you get when you are open and honest Most ENTP'S would respect the person if they give their reason why this happened instead of getting offended .
Maybe look past personality types, i feel like we're all too into expectations of how this and that should respond, there could be more too it that you wouldn't know or something, cutting off the friendship though, just seems more like you hit a button that was bad for that certain person, or maybe they were just looking for a reason to not be friends, hell life circumstances might have a play in it, then they just never tried repairing it. Ik this is kinda an excuse, but im trying to make sense of it
I feel a slap on my face.Waht I need is a people won't let me cheat. Because I am good at talking and very charming, I get myself out of a lot of duties and tasks. It is good in the short term. However, It hurts me a lot in the long term. I am wasting my potential all the time when I use Ne, my talent to cheat. Now, I will not allow myself to cheat any more. I will only use Ne to convince other people to see the problems and understand the solutions.
then I seem to have lots of charisma and people skills. I think I did fall into the trap of imposter syndrome and have almost completely lost my sense of identity. im slowly trying to build it back up again, but its very difficult
@@shaefox2229 I think it’s the way he recognizes & describes our true uniqueness and the special quirky charisma of ENTP so accurately makes me realize that ppl like me actually exist since we are not common as other mbtis- no wonder, I knew I always felt a little less blended w the crowd, yet never really wanted to blend in fully or wd be awk for me. We may def be lone rangers by choice but hopefully not too lonely girl! 🙈
hey as an entp here, i'm trying to understand how i can better harness my Fe to be more charismatic or build better rapport, do you or does anyone else have any tips?
There's no advice for you, just be you only you know you best so take you're years to figure it out. Trying to be more charismatic will just be an act in the end, just let it come naturally, hah you might not even realise you already are. Almost forgot, don't try to live you're life based on what us "Entps" are supposed to be, that'll just make you act like what's considered an entp, which is pointless since being yourself is more than just being an entp.... Sorry for sounding like some kind of wise motivational speaker dude, im trying to up my English
I feel im really different, i talk way to mutch about me and Kind of my feelings, I dont manipulate people, at least emotioaly, with intend, dint acctually really know how to, I also have a strong Moral code, and i dont really care about people and stuff enought to manipulate them
True hahahaha. Just messing with you. We are probably obsessing with a new subject, besides we are pretty forgiving unless you are a monster. Stay spicy 🌶 😉!!
Watching this to stroke my ego
True 😂😂
a true entp brother
Mee too😂
same, don't worry
Not at all. I'm already plenty full of myself. Just learning more about the toolbox.
The best thing an ENTP would like to hear is "thank you"
Or "good job"
This hit home for me..
Yeah I get tired very quickly of throwing my own shoulder out having to pay myself on the back all of the time. Then it’s on!!! Sarcasm laden arguments ……i mean…”debates”! (But since I already know what your gonna say and the excuses you’ll use i of course have answers for those already. Lol
I like hearing "How do you know so much?!"
Me:it's a gift and a curse I assure you
"you're right" feels better than any of those.
There's nothing an ENTP loves more than a room with one entrance and 12 exits!
@smile first for yourself love in your heart uP
everything we do has fluidity
I think there is many ENTP's who aren't extroverted same way extroverted are usually. There was one video where it was explained well. I think it was ENTP vs INTP
That's truly hilarious
12 exits just means 13 entrances
Being an ENTP can sometimes suck!
Not getting the recognition of seeing patterns that will affect a whole business and even be questioned and ridiculed about it, only to have it been correct pattern recognition some weeks later when it finally struck and then, of course, it was too late.
No wonder Cynicism and Nihilism is a thing for us ENTP's :D
Totally agree. I hate when I have an amazingly logical idea but yet am ignored because maybe I’m an outsider on the situation or don’t have as much experience later to have them use my tricks to no credit or ignore my advice and make the mistakes I advised they could’ve avoided.I hate being dismissed as though I don’t know what I’m talking about, as I don’t like to speak out of my ass.
You describe what seems to be a foreign language to most! It's lonely out here sometimes isn't it? (Echo echo)Add female to your plight and we may be twins. I hear you and then some. I work in male dominant environment so what happens in addition to their delayed stolen eureka gets real interesting is when said decision makers stalk you for more ideas in the future but not in front of others so they can use your fkn operation strategies to advance themselves more .. But I have no doubt you have experienced this too as male entp. And they think we don't know what they're doing 😂 recently, i calmed my inner temper i played back with this new bff.. Told my one boss " i give it 48 hours and u will hear this at the board meeting". When he asked why I am asking this i said the game is getting old. You will know going forward; good or bad, my yes is my yes and no is no..if i am wrong give me rope to fix or fail but if i am getting f'd over _ have to painfully watch us all ineffectively double work (shoot me) they better keep up or fk off. You can tell him or not, good either way. My nurturing of team calabs does not mean i am a doormat. ~ early menopausal entp
Ps: i need to get my shit together and work for myself lol. My own fault for not pushing harder earlier in life, previous door matting to try and fit in and blooded tongue-smiling thru middle management for dummies.
EVERY.FREAKING.TIME!!!!
I think a lot of people just get stressed out or even annoyed with these "rants", however logical and reasonable. We do need to work on slowing down and restraining our communication. At least I find writing the best way as I can write at speed-of-thought, but can then re-evaluate how well I'm communicating things and hopefully sum things up a bit rather than just blurting everything out at once. Just as introverts are struggling with expressing themselves at all, especially in "competition" with socially fearless ENTPs ;)
@@AlexCass1515 same😭😭
Haven't watched, but I agree in advance
Second 20 agree
I see this guy commenting this on every entp video🤣🤣🤣
@@Heliam-mi7nd I wonder what type he idenifies with 🤔
😂
LMAO
As an entp I have learned that I need people who are as creative as me around me. I don’t want to do projects with others, but to find a buddy who will sit next to me and do their own project, is the absolute best. Especially if they are ambitious with their creativity, and can spare and share knowledge and inspiration, then you got a best friend in me.
Preach
you cleared my dilemma. i think the imposter syndrome goes way further because part of that charisma is a need to fit in, or to be accepted. just by fitting in we can view other perspectives more clearly. only thing is, when we try to fit in, we don’t intend to belong. it’s just done for the purpose of trying to understand which satisfies our curiosity and social needs.
Oh my God. How did this guy explain my whole deep never spoken of struggles. Amazing. Being a female ENTP I think is harder because having female friends has always felt more like a chore or a good deed. I have always connected with men more but having male friends can get weird.
I laughed at this😂 yeah women aren’t exactly the most intellectual creatures. As a great man once said during a long hilarious rant about women “If chicks didn’t have tits and pussies we’d probably just throw rocks at them”
ENTPs are so self-conscious about how they could be percieved that they have mastered so many techniques that make them unique and charismatic which contributes to the social attraction they manifest.
me being an ENTP, sometimes I get caught manipulating the feelings of others, it seems that I am aware of what others feel for me and I also know what to do to make this happen with each specific person.
Probably true
Omg it is so scary. This is exactly what I do
Whenever you as an entp in my vision.. manipulating with a positive way with a too sided win_win
Everytime 😌
Thinks about x: Does x: recognises x's effect: recognises former knowledge of x's effect: questions why I am doing x to begin with.
Are my intentions honest? Questions self. Cannot come up with a satisfactorily conclusive answer.
Alternatively: does y, sees new reaction, oooh new thing!!! New data!! More to play with!!
I love how this came on random and now I feel NAKED
I don't build rapport. I seek stimulation. I don't make jokes for others, i makes jokes for myself, that i share with others. I am not telling people that i am right, i simply bring up points.
I don't think you are wrong but you are speaking as an observer. Asking myself how i feel about things just returns a question mark. It's also easier to follow my likes than figure out my wants.
@Lapislazuli it's hella hard to choose what you want when there's so much to choose from and you've already experienced 10 versions of a thing in your imagination.
"Asking myself how I feel returns a question mark" This curse man! I thought there was something wrong with me until i found out it's just how ENTP's roll. I hate it though. Why can't i see myself as easily as i can see through others?!
@Lapislazuli he makes decisions with logic not based on his feelings.
@Lapislazuli Indonesian
Rapport is social stimulation. You're missing the boat.
I am quite charismatic, but i also say everything that comes to my mind, and let me tell you, some things is better unsaid.
That’s very true. Just today I was in school and it was my teachers birthday. I said: “Are you sad that your older now.”
Some people just don’t get my humor...
@Hungti Many people respect me for it, and i value that more than those so insecure that they can't hear the truth.
Silence is a potent tool.
As an ENTP growing up I constantly bot my tongue and kept my internal dialogue to myself, but now that im in my early 20s I’ve learned to speak my mind and speak my truth a lot more. I feel that the world is better for it as long as I don’t weaponize truth and keep pure intentions
Hahahaha. This sounds soo much like me! God I love fellow ENTPs, it's so refreshing and I feel free to by myself, lol. I speak my mind many times and then realize oops, that can go wrong, they are not getting it. She's getting really older, so what?! No reason to be offended but yeah, clown world sometimes
Oh man - you hit the nail on the head x1000 on what we want to hear as compliments...saying we're "funny" or "smart" etc doesn't mean much at all, though pointing out & celebrating our work/influence is exactly what we want to hear deep down.
I/ENFP just wanted to let all you ENTP’s out there know that you’re all awesome!!! I may not be the type of person who would challenge you are be worth your accomplishments as a fellow companion but just know that you dudes & dudets are some of the most entertaining, insightful geniuses of the human race! Keep finding ways to wow me!!!
Please challenge us (when we say/do something and you have an insight!) xD
Start adopting realism and stop thinking with your emotions and you can experience this too. But beware once you loose your emotions life may become dull and uninteresting. Procede with caution only and know this once you go black, in this case you may not be able to go back
dam that almost made me cry, i guess that is something i have needed to hear for all my efforts ive put into others. thank you stranger.
I think ENTP have mastered so many facets of themselves to appeal to people to see from their perspective... attributing to charisma... That over time it gets harder for people to see through the veil. As much as I would like to have more genuine connections, I also fear getting myself too invested and hurt as I have seen too much of what people are capable of, at the same time I want more and some part of me is hopeful for it. But I still get stuck in this mobius feedback loop.
"As much as I would like to have more genuine connections, I also fear getting myself too invested and hurt as I have seen too much of what people are capable of, at the same time I want more and some part of me is hopeful for it" Damn I have never related to a sentence as much as this one. I have always noted that I have never ever had a romantic relationship with someone I really liked. Because the more I like someone the harder for me is to make a meaningful connection. But even when I try to, there is something inside me stopping me from doing so because of a fear of being hurt, or even worse hurting someone I really care about.
Find some INFJ they will cut through all your Bullshit lol. - Fellow ENTP
@@ihsankamil6279 my best friend is an INFJ and he definitely opens my eyes to my more vulnerable and emotional side. I’m 21 and still working on being able to open with him about stuff bc being open with him is like a different kind of raw and open. It makes me feel uncomfortable honestly but it’s something internally I need to work on.
As an autistic person who has had to LEARN to be social, rather than just feeling it naturally, I think the difference, socially, with an ENTP is that they have a social life for different reasons than many 'social' personalities. ENTPs see people as mental exercise and respect people who fight back.
Beacuse the more social excercise you have the better you will be at it. And older ENTP is always better than a young ENTP
As an entp, while I do have the ability to manipulate ppl, it feels wrong so I don't do it. And when I do, I don't have the energy to keep it up and ppl eventually realize I wasn't being me lol. Maybe my external feeling isn't skilled enough?
Oye, I'm the same way mate. I think I come off half crazy and half charismatic.
As one too I can see when others are being manipulative, which is my main purpose is making sure someone doesn't get take advantage of or hoodwinked. I love being an entp, but the boredom can get to me. However think this, if you are bored, you're the boring one.
Since young age I've realized it's easy to manipulate ppl (and by manipulate I understand making ppl change thier opinions to my liking) so I've made myself a promise I wouldn't do that. And yes, ENTP here.
Nah, I get lazy manipulating people. It’s not that I can’t do it
I've noticed that manipulation comes in two different types.
I myself despise emotional manipulation and I honestly hate it, it's also quite good that ENTP's can sense when someone is trying to manipulate us.
Now the second type of "manipulation" is which I don't necessarily dislike - Putting out irrefutable logic and reasoning which changes people's opinion into one that benefits me (and doesn't really harm them).
So true, I am always trying to be the best until I am and realize that is not what I wanted at all. At the end of the day my goal is not to be the best or the most successful, rather it is to be appreciated. I want people to recognize my ability, even if I am the best, If I surround myself with people that do not appreciate anything I do, I get depressed. But the other way around is also true, If I surround myself with people that constantly compliment me without challenging me, then I feel empty I feel like it is not deserved. For me, the best place is to be somewhere in the middle, with people that appreciate me but also constantly challenge me.
Word for word i share your desire for that middle environment... for those same reasons. I had the pleasure of being part of a team with that perfect ballance twice in life and miss them so much. So rewarding and so hard to find.
The habitual use of charisma subliminally creating Imposter Syndrome is some very heavy breakfast. Subbed for sure. I'd buy a "Cross-Contextual Thinking is my Superpower" shirt. And wear it too.
I have this effect even when I’m this depressed so I don’t talk to people whenever I’m this down unless you’re up for a really dark humor
As an ENTP i feel like each engagement is a performance. Afterwards, i score myself. Reliving the glory of accomplishment or prob solving (sometimes the achievement was my own prob to be solved) OR in agony for a mistake or lost opportunity. Then I vow to myself to overcome the obstacle and not let that happen again. Anybody else?
I over analyze a conversation so much, but to other people it looks effortless.
Very well said.
damn same
You're goddamn right
maan
I tend to use my Fe on all people (even those I don't know at all) because I'm happy when people like me and I don't want them to hate me. And that's definitely the bad side - thinking about what others think of me (is it because logical types require acknowledgment?) and my distrust to everyone (bc my nonexistent Fi can be very hurt by others). I'm trying to fight it so I don't stick to "what anyone thinks" bullshits. Sometimes, however, in society I feel like an actor playing for the people around me, and when someone doesn't like me, I regret every second of my attention to him. I have found that mutual respect is the only thing that will convince me that a friendship will be long-lasting, trustworthy and worth investing in. I have found, that the best way to find out that respect exists in a relationship, is to expose the other person to my worse side - doubts about our relationship, cold insensitive logic, distrust. If I shows up in the worst light, but does not lose the respect of a friend, who, on the contrary, bring me out of doubt, I get my conclusion - this relationship has a future and I can fuly dedicate myself to it.
From my experience, what I need is not Te. Te drains me. Infjs are very helpful. My boss is INFJ. He keeps checking on me.
Yes, infj and entp are match made in heaven😊
Our manipulating tricks never works on infj and we can also understand their emotions also...they would be.perfect life partners....
I act charisma...but it is easy for me..but need more energy.....
I kinda like the way you talk to me. Like you really know me from inside out.
So true. I'm legit great at understanding the collective values, expectations, etc. In a micro community, and can effectively affect them as I want.
A huge part to this is zero'ing in on what someone cares about overall & appealing to that...a natural skill for that translates out to serious influence in groups if you get the chance to 1-on-1 with the members.
You flatter us, but this is true
Love the humility;)
@@antoinettenovella1630 insecure people created the word humility.
ENTP, I took the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator within the U.S. Military. The exam was a 3 day testing exam, Exam to indicate a person's personality and if the individual mentally and emotionally capable of performing under extreme stress, isolation and duress environments. The testing/exam was within the Special Operations/Military Intelligence Community, for a slot in a 6 man deep penetration Ranger/Airborne LRRP/LRSD Team.
The 3 day exam was interesting to say the least and yes, I made the Teams.
I think I’m actually an ENTP at heart. I have some pretty severe social anxiety though so I never talk to anyone in real life. In video games however and games like VR Chat I can often be the center of attention and a real joker. People add me as friends every time I join a world and I get a lot of people adding me on discord. A lot of the time I don’t even remember people but they remember me. I feel like my true self and much happier in the virtual world than real life. In the real world I present more like an INTP/INTJ/ISTP though.
Wow I actually got a lot of great helpful information from this, what you said about relying on Charisma I realize I might be doing this. I'll go on like a first date for instance and if their sense of humor is like mine I like will make them laugh like almost the whole time, nothing but smiles and having a great time and really likes me is the vibe I get, but then we don't have a second date. I think its because I might be relying on charm and humor to get them to really like me but I am avoiding substance which is vital to make an emotional connection instead of just being humor fluff.
This is the video where I finally and definitely typed myself as an ENTP. Also where I decided to define Erik Thor as the genius of MBTI. Though, I had the feeling for some time already... Thank you!
Agree! Blatantly true. If only we could focus more.
Reading comments 2 seconds in...
True, people around me always asks how do I manage to get along with everyone even if I don’t really share any interest with that person or even have the same mindset , and I will be like Idk people just like me lol
This was very insightful. You actually brought some thing up that I haven't been able to fully identify in myself until I heard it. You managed to actually specify what has been going on in my head. It's amazing! As for what compliments I want to hear as an ENTP, you were absolutely right about that as well.
Thanks for sharing! I really found this helpful and it definitely gave me a better understanding of myself. 👍😎
WOW, I think this video might be the most useful & relevant to my life clip that I've ever watched. Not confusing my tool (my voice & charisma) for my purpose is an invaluable takeaway. Enormous thanks!
That's a really nice video. Thank you
DUDE, this was so useful!!! I never thought about this this way!
Good points An ENTP can play a part in this dynamic by constantly resisting equilibrium and seeking novelty. With age, maturity and/or examination of one’s own feelings, values, and goals, which doesn’t come, or maybe not accessible to consciousness as easily, they can learn to not just flit from one to other superficial engagement, but to be develop deeper friendships as well. At least this has been my experience.
(ETA: I personally cant relate to the part about Te Doms being ideal kind of complements - feels like Te at such high dose would drain me. I relied on some self control and self direction and judiciously dealing with Te systems for “keeping myself in check” rather than those types of people being my close relationships. Maybe this is easier for me to say though because I’m older and many of the Stuff that I have achieved or the results of my reputation or however you put it are already are there? Not to say that I don’t get unsure about my direction still...
Thank you Erik! I liked your analogy about confusing the tool with the mission. It makes total sense!
Sage advice, thanks!
This is accurate. I had an assignment due yesterday and I really didn't care to do it and talked my way into getting it delayed and made people forget for a while. My relationships dominate mind cause their honestly where I'm least satisfied and I haven't found that solution yet. I threw away a lot of friends, it didn't feel good and it didn't feel like me (whatever that means). I maneuvered my way out and even now I still have no full relationships. It's all barren.
Same
I don’t feel like I have any real friends, but a decent amount of people think we’re great friends. I haven’t had a true great friend since high school, and I don’t really care. Idk if some would call that depression or something like that, I wouldn’t. So far it seems like people open up to me and they think I open up to them, but I don’t think they truly know me. I have 2 truly honest relationships with my wife and son and that’s about it.
Fun fact ; most ENTP write using strong vocabulary and they usually dont use emojis
Hmm. I write a lot, usually with lots of very specific terms and outlining; for basically everything.
I do use a lot of emoji however. Especially regarding sarcasm. But, never vapid, and they're usually related to what's being said, and now, and not at all the relationship with recipient - which come to think of it, might be how some write.
My more ISTJ associates I've not seen use any much.
My ENTPs definitely use. Usually with humour and sarcasm.
I often just talk continuously for a few hours, while they give input as they try to understand me. I do find it annoying when yk it feels so one sided sometimes, but usually these long conversations just comes from a night of digging around the internet and now I've got all these opinions ideas whatevers to share and who ever happens to be there will just be mostly viewed by me as a ear to let off all that steam i accumulated over night.
I've had friends that are entj, intp, intj and they often saw through my stuff but these days I've grown quite cautious of my words so i make sure to regulate myself and keep myself in check, but i feel like that isn't exactly a good thing, I'll learn with time though, and find a different way as i grow older
Thank you for this
Well not with Te, but I find INFJ's quite excellent at calling me out on my BS lol. It's like an awakening slap to the face by someone who took the time and effort and contemplated just exactly what kind of wake-up-slap you actually need hahahah. Punish me for my own good UwU . Though the INFJ's like me a lot, I can feel them having to actively resist my charisma and not get sucked into it, so they can accomplish whatever plan (which they refuse to let me in on! grrrr!) they have concocted for my personal growth. The whole situation: it's quite hilarious actually.
But once you shower them with compliments their hearts will melt away lol.
TRUE, very true. Thats why many of them don't even try to come off well because it's usually one sided.
I’ve never been better understood or better understood myself. Shoutout for the ENTP content and (strangely) the eye contact ??? idk is that weird?
we're the most misunderstood type besides istp 💀
I heard this video at the right time. Thank you :)
This was helpful, thank you.
ability to see problems people cant see... put that on my gravestone because if we boil it down, thats what we stand for... see issues ahead /before anyone else and solve problems
This is so good❤😊
Waw this hit hard. Great video and you seem really sweet
5:38 yes and that's a loop i put myself in and now I'm STUCK.
Not anymore
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Thank you! Very helpful!
Thank you maan!!
Wow interesting great video
As an ENTP and a Christian the best thing that could ever happen to me is to have this conscience about how I am doing things in my life …
Well buddy you did it you make my day whit this video. helped me to understand a little bit about me and it was very interesting, thanks.
Ugh, I hate it when people just agree with me without reflecting on what I said. I mean, I also hate it, when people disagree with me without reflecting. But I can call them out on that. But if they just agree... Meh. xD
I agree
@@CoperXYZ How dare you!
@@julyol119 it was intended. Hope the last 3 years have treated you well!
I can’t relate with getting away with responsibilities. I know I can do it but I don’t. Although, I accidentally find myself in that scenario but rare. I make sure everything I do are backed with truth.
Conversely, I definitely consistently got myself access far beyond normal access for a whole lot of things.
I agree just because I’m ENTP
I got a feeling that you know what is going on in my head. I always have this freaking feeling like I am a fraud or smthng
the best this for a ENTP who can call them out and play them at their own game...
Deep down, we are unrelenting problem solvers... Never had it put so succinctly; nothing drives me more than seeing something done in an worse way or seeing others struggling with something complex. The idea of a Utopia was never appealing to me as a "perfect" world would have no problems to solve which makes existence very empty and unsatisfying. When the problem is solved, the drive to do anything almost instantly disappears.
Alright. Gotta have a cheap Fiat for the Ferrari to have it's value. If all had a ferrari, it won't be so special anymore, it'll become standard, and standard is boring, and often unappreciated.
Funny indeed, I'm easy going and many people like me.. While I seldom like them back. I tend to screw it up, though, because I can suddenly attack them verbally, when I don't like their views. And not many people can handle that, strangely enough.. . Because you should be able to defend your view on matters. And.. I will respect you for it, even if I don't agree.
I was a friend with an ENTP when I called this person out on their caviler ways this person got angry and offended they never asked why I called them out most ENTP'S would probe as to why i said that instead this person cut off the friendship but that's what you get when you are open and honest Most ENTP'S would respect the person if they give their reason why this happened instead of getting offended .
Maybe look past personality types, i feel like we're all too into expectations of how this and that should respond, there could be more too it that you wouldn't know or something, cutting off the friendship though, just seems more like you hit a button that was bad for that certain person, or maybe they were just looking for a reason to not be friends, hell life circumstances might have a play in it, then they just never tried repairing it. Ik this is kinda an excuse, but im trying to make sense of it
You scream in my face, I'll just smirk back.
We are the MOST charismatic.
Thank you
I feel a slap on my face.Waht I need is a people won't let me cheat. Because I am good at talking and very charming, I get myself out of a lot of duties and tasks. It is good in the short term. However, It hurts me a lot in the long term. I am wasting my potential all the time when I use Ne, my talent to cheat. Now, I will not allow myself to cheat any more. I will only use Ne to convince other people to see the problems and understand the solutions.
Charisma! My precious! Imposter.... FML
then I seem to have lots of charisma and people skills. I think I did fall into the trap of imposter syndrome and have almost completely lost my sense of identity. im slowly trying to build it back up again, but its very difficult
"I only got this far because of my voice", said the singer 😅
I probably have some charisma. 👑
I try to solve problems but no one wants to listen because of their egos/ unwarranted self importance 😢
Joined 😊
man this is so fucking accurate
we are not saints... moral code is a spectrum, some of us will play more or less clean, some dont.
no bc I like having everyone like me despite it not being important to me
Thanks, your constructive criticism will help ENTP to be profound for meaning full out come.
Nice wardrobe. :D
Are we not "genjuingly" talk about his genuinely? xD
Bdw, nice video dude!
You. Are wise
This video kinda makes me wanna cry tbh
Why did I initially feel this way too omg
@@juliea413Julie, we might be lonely
@@shaefox2229 I think it’s the way he recognizes & describes our true uniqueness and the special quirky charisma of ENTP so accurately makes me realize that ppl like me actually exist since we are not common as other mbtis- no wonder, I knew I always felt a little less blended w the crowd, yet never really wanted to blend in fully or wd be awk for me. We may def be lone rangers by choice but hopefully not too lonely girl! 🙈
I’m ENTP, not sure that I am that charismatic!😉😂
I watch this video because I'm an entp narcissist
Yep I'm definitely not an ENTP
Wait... Maybe?
Thanks
One day I realize that I want the people see me as a intelligent not just funny
hey as an entp here, i'm trying to understand how i can better harness my Fe to be more charismatic or build better rapport, do you or does anyone else have any tips?
There's no advice for you, just be you only you know you best so take you're years to figure it out. Trying to be more charismatic will just be an act in the end, just let it come naturally, hah you might not even realise you already are.
Almost forgot, don't try to live you're life based on what us "Entps" are supposed to be, that'll just make you act like what's considered an entp, which is pointless since being yourself is more than just being an entp.... Sorry for sounding like some kind of wise motivational speaker dude, im trying to up my English
thank you broski for your advice, it's really helpful!! imma let loose a little ykwim
@@mobisqrd 🗿im tearing up, no one ever accepts my advice 🤣.. Thx u made my day ngll
This is awkwardly accurate
thanks
Ok let me be honest , ur video is great , everything is perfect.... Except one, ur thumbnail 🤣
Wow you know me so well 😔
I feel im really different, i talk way to mutch about me and Kind of my feelings,
I dont manipulate people, at least emotioaly, with intend, dint acctually really know how to,
I also have a strong Moral code, and i dont really care about people and stuff enought to manipulate them
Damn INFjs anyway. Our biggest fans until we let them down (because we inevitably will) then it's like we never existed.
True hahahaha. Just messing with you. We are probably obsessing with a new subject, besides we are pretty forgiving unless you are a monster. Stay spicy 🌶 😉!!
@@bio.Luminescence That was after 21 years and four kids. I will endeavor to remain so. Thanks
@@richsackett3423 I am sorry to hear that. So yeah, damn them.
I came here to massage my ego
Do you mean entps should think like extroverted thinking users to accomplish something or inventing something!?
You should use Te as kind of an external standard to orient yourself towards and as something to compete with and try to beat/surpass. :)
Erik Thor's Flow Code yeah I agree
Yep using ti and te will give you a huge adventege (by experience:-)
Yep using Ti and Te will give you a huge adventege (by experience:-)
The right term is dominant, not users. All of us are extroverted thinking users.