Well the bramble patch is down but now its time for all the roots, weed killer, digging or just a flame thrower? Also find some other surprises that this allotment keeps throwing up.
As Lisa said japanese onions alongside the carrots, if you're hoping to get carrots in now. If waiting until spring regular onions will do, the Japanese are for over wintering. Along worth putting some garlic in there too... it deters carrot root fly
A maincrop carrot like Autumn King should give you a nice big carrot. Beetroot are easy to grow. The Brassica (cabbage) family are chewed by everything so you will need to net them - extra cost. Have a look at DT Brown's website for good cheap seeds. They are the same company as Mr Fothergill, Johnson Seeds plus many more. If you have a local Wilko then they have a good gardening section. Grow stuff that you like to eat but try a few new fun things each year. Cheers
Thank you very much for the advice, we do have a good wilko and I have large netting left over from the previous owner. More bird control I think. Time to make a plan me thinks.
We had the same problem with brambles on our plot, it was untouched for years. 2 years later still digging it up and using poison strategically. Good luck
I had a go at carrots for the first time this year. Early Nantes and they were so easy and tasted amazing. Going to try touchon next year. Am after the best taste I can get. Don't want to spend time and end up with supermarket food! Loving your vids, thanks.
Sounds great! The only thing I have on my sowing calendar so far is Early Nantes.... lots of things on my wish list. If they don't taste as good or better than the supermarket I'm going to be in so much trouble with my little girl. Oh that has given me an idea!
The rotting wood would be a great filler for any raised beds. Can you cover the site with cardboard, then the found plastic over that? Then just uncover the parts you want to grow in. Grow what you like. Anise sounds like the beginnings of an herb plot or a pickling/spice section. Put seeds in the ground. Plants want to grow.
It might be worth going to a garden centre to see if they have got some early spring cabbage seedling to over winter. It might be a bit late to start sow anything now but try these to get you started - broad beans (over winter) - radish (a quick crop) - lettuce (a quick crop) - turnips pick when small (a quick crop) - onions/shallots/garlic (over winter) the quick crops should be grown under cloches/fleece for warmth and protection from the elements Keep digging and keep safe
Thank you, cloches etc I have no access too as of yet. So I'm think more of early next year now to be honest. Just getting the plot tidy and get a better storage sorted. Make it a bit safer for the kids to help (dig holes where they like, rather than in my lawn at home). Think Ill devise a sow/harvest calendar soon and share that to see what you lot think. If I don't make a plan I can see it all going wrong fast!
@@Plot79B You don't need cloches for broad beans over wintering variety is Aquadulce, same goes for first early peas (e.g. meteor or feltham first). I would net the peas as pigeons get hungry especially in the winter and eat the leaves. Sow both October to November for a crop about May next year.
Some people did used to do it this way. If they had bad soil it seems rather than building a bed would dig it out and then line it and refill with better soi, then no need to dig again. Rather than a raised bed that is much more common. But that's all guess work as we shall never know. But yes you are right should never have it in a no dig. Its there so now/how to deal with it....
Weed killer may not work so well as the summer as this time of year plants will soon not be actively growing. Weed suppressant membrane and plastic is a pain to dig out and dispose of.
Yup, the weed killer waste a waste of time so back to digging it all out. As for the membrane... oh my word what a nightmare. Plot is becoming more of a collection of plastic at the moment.
My allotment was a bit like yours loads of brambles and every year I'm still digging them up! I've just planted out winter cabbage, winter kale, chard and winter beetroot but I did start them all off at home first. Love the tiles , will you be acquiring a greenhouse or poly tunnel?
Yea the tiles are very thick, so may turn on their side and use for edging for now. Thinking more of a poly tunnel, but its all in my head at the moment. No firm plans on anything yet!
Spuds, spuds and spuds! It will cultivate the beds really well for the next crops.
Yup spuds are a must!
As Lisa said japanese onions alongside the carrots, if you're hoping to get carrots in now. If waiting until spring regular onions will do, the Japanese are for over wintering. Along worth putting some garlic in there too... it deters carrot root fly
Thank you for the advice and your right Im waiting till early next year. Trying to get plot cleared and safe place to leave tools etc sorted first.
A maincrop carrot like Autumn King should give you a nice big carrot. Beetroot are easy to grow. The Brassica (cabbage) family are chewed by everything so you will need to net them - extra cost. Have a look at DT Brown's website for good cheap seeds. They are the same company as Mr Fothergill, Johnson Seeds plus many more. If you have a local Wilko then they have a good gardening section. Grow stuff that you like to eat but try a few new fun things each year. Cheers
Thank you very much for the advice, we do have a good wilko and I have large netting left over from the previous owner. More bird control I think. Time to make a plan me thinks.
Grow what you want to eat. Quick growing crops allow for clearing weeds at shorter intervals on new plots. Onion family like to be kept weed free!
Thank you for the advice, I still haven't got a clue on what to sow yet. Lots of ideas but really need to make a little plan.
We had the same problem with brambles on our plot, it was untouched for years.
2 years later still digging it up and using poison strategically. Good luck
Yup, I didn't have a clue about them. Then read up and watch some youtube and went EEK! So its not as simple as cutting em down then... lol
I had a go at carrots for the first time this year. Early Nantes and they were so easy and tasted amazing. Going to try touchon next year. Am after the best taste I can get. Don't want to spend time and end up with supermarket food! Loving your vids, thanks.
Sounds great! The only thing I have on my sowing calendar so far is Early Nantes.... lots of things on my wish list. If they don't taste as good or better than the supermarket I'm going to be in so much trouble with my little girl. Oh that has given me an idea!
See if you can get you’re hands on a matic, great for getting out roots,it’s kind of half pick ax half spade...
Sounds like an old army entrancing tool!
The rotting wood would be a great filler for any raised beds. Can you cover the site with cardboard, then the found plastic over that? Then just uncover the parts you want to grow in. Grow what you like. Anise sounds like the beginnings of an herb plot or a pickling/spice section. Put seeds in the ground. Plants want to grow.
Im eager to get growing too, but my plan (which I NEVER stick too) is early next year. Im a bit OCD about clearing it up ;)
I've been ripping out stupid plastic matting all over my new plot so I feel the frustration. Some is well buried under the soil.
Yea I'll be showing soon how much I have pulled out. And I'm only just about half way through!
It might be worth going to a garden centre to see if they have got some early spring cabbage seedling to over winter. It might be a bit late to start sow anything now but try these to get you started
- broad beans (over winter)
- radish (a quick crop)
- lettuce (a quick crop)
- turnips pick when small (a quick crop)
- onions/shallots/garlic (over winter)
the quick crops should be grown under cloches/fleece for warmth and protection from the elements
Keep digging and keep safe
Thank you, cloches etc I have no access too as of yet. So I'm think more of early next year now to be honest. Just getting the plot tidy and get a better storage sorted. Make it a bit safer for the kids to help (dig holes where they like, rather than in my lawn at home). Think Ill devise a sow/harvest calendar soon and share that to see what you lot think. If I don't make a plan I can see it all going wrong fast!
Re. Fleece, it might be worth trying the charity shops for net curtains does the same job👍
@@Plot79B You don't need cloches for broad beans over wintering variety is Aquadulce, same goes for first early peas (e.g. meteor or feltham first). I would net the peas as pigeons get hungry especially in the winter and eat the leaves. Sow both October to November for a crop about May next year.
I’m intrigued to see what you are going to grow I’m along for journey
Carrots of course ;) (yes hopefully plenty of other things too)
In the other part of your plot that you have not touched have a look at strawberries. Should help keep the weeds down and low maintenance.
Its an idea ;)
No dig shouldn't have membrane under it!
Some people did used to do it this way. If they had bad soil it seems rather than building a bed would dig it out and then line it and refill with better soi, then no need to dig again. Rather than a raised bed that is much more common. But that's all guess work as we shall never know. But yes you are right should never have it in a no dig. Its there so now/how to deal with it....
Weed killer may not work so well as the summer as this time of year plants will soon not be actively growing. Weed suppressant membrane and plastic is a pain to dig out and dispose of.
Yup, the weed killer waste a waste of time so back to digging it all out. As for the membrane... oh my word what a nightmare. Plot is becoming more of a collection of plastic at the moment.
My allotment was a bit like yours loads of brambles and every year I'm still digging them up! I've just planted out winter cabbage, winter kale, chard and winter beetroot but I did start them all off at home first. Love the tiles , will you be acquiring a greenhouse or poly tunnel?
Yea the tiles are very thick, so may turn on their side and use for edging for now. Thinking more of a poly tunnel, but its all in my head at the moment. No firm plans on anything yet!
Early Nantes Carrots with some Japanese onions
That be the ones it seems for the carrots and the Japanese onions seems like the way to go too! Thank you for the pointer.