”Christian” Ideology Destroys Parallax
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Thank you from way down here in South Africa.
Thanks for the concise clip. I trust before you are done with this section you'll also cover how we may guard ourselves from having too many views, so many that we loose focus and become as bad as those who have a toilet paper-core view of things or, as I once heard Ravi warn of the danger of thinking that in grasping the finger we've grabbed the hand...
Jesus claims to be the only way over and against everything else. And the difference is what He propositionally declares about Himself in being the incarnate only-begotten Son, whose righteousness alone satisfies God that merits forgiveness of sins and eternal life for all those who believe. If I assent to these propositions against all other beliefs claiming to be the way, I’m I giving up all my critical thinking and parallax? I’m I thinking like a stage 3 believer? I understand better what you’re trying to accomplish, but your arguments can easily be brought back against you and other Christians who have discovered the Pearl of great price. I think you need to nuance your argument better. Peace.
Your statement about Jeuss already has a bunch of theological baggage attached to it, which scripture may or may not be saying.
It is true that Jesus is The Way. There is no other way, yes.
The point is not that there are other ways. But the type of thinking that seems apparent in your comment is reminiscent of the thought process, which leads to everything not considered "orthodox" to be automatically desmissed as demonic.
For instance, if you encounter someone "not affirming" penal substitutionary atonement or eternal conscious torment, you would automatically compartmentalize this person as new age/liberal/etc.
Basically, yes, your thinking is stage 3 and is indicative of a person who believes they have nothing else to learn or can not learn from anyone who thinks contrary to the way they do.
The type of learning one with this type of thinking is capable of is to be more effectively convinced in themselves of what they already believe and learn tactics/gymnastics in order to more effectively convince others.
Not real learning, just cognitive doubling down/confirmation bias. Can't take any new wine.
I think what Kevin is talking about is primarily an "in-house" kind of thing. However, this gets even harsher when dealing with others on the outside. Not saying that Islam, Hindu, or whatever are true or the gods involved are the Living God, nor that there is nothing demonic about either, but within the individuals, the real people who are convinced of those religions, you and I as Christ followers can learn from them and be edified by them.
I'm not saying that edification comes from learning their religions and so forth, though that can be edifying, but through having meaningful interactions with them.
If we automatically dismiss anything they could say on the subject of faith/religion as demonic/evil/untrue we cannot be open to any light which the Logos might bring to us through them whether they know of the light which is being given through them or not.
Through genuine interaction, I think that gives us the best opportunity to reach them with what is true, and can demonstrate how while there may be some true things in their religion, The Way is in Christ, and not in their religion.
But if we come to the interaction with the kind of thought exhibited by your comment, we can't engage honestly, and the dynamic becomes rivalrous instead of friendly and loving. Not that there is no space for disputing at all. It will happen from time to time, but when that is the base dynamic of the interaction, hearts are hardened in pride on both sides. And the Lord resists the proud, whether lost or saved.
I learned this lesson too late as I spent much time last year evangelizing to Muslims in NJ. A lot of debating and setting up times to bring teachers to debate me. Few believed, regardless of arguments and apologetics, and so forth. Also, I didn't make any friends that way either.
@@treysmith5513
Any belief in Jesus is theological. What is baggage and what is not?
But that was not the issue. And, you’ve seem to grasp it, to a point.
Jesus made claims or propositional assertions about Himself that no other has or can make that we believe in for salvation. We reject any competing thoughts or beliefs.
Making a distinction between “in house” and outside Christianity is a needed nuance, but should be justified.
What are the bare minimum beliefs or is there such a criteria for salvation? If not, why? These are some things that need to be thought out.
Any true proposition is indicative of something that is more than the proposition.
If a finger is pointing at the moon, the finger is indicating the moon, but is not the moon.
Also, other fingers can point at the moon.
The existence of the moon is not captured in pointing fingers.
The existence of whatever a propositions is indicating does not live solely in those propositions. It is so even if there never were any propositions.
@@KevinThompson1611
True. A proposition does not exhaust the full meaning of its object. But what it does assert, if true, is knowledge of that object. That means it is something and not something else.
The law of contradiction is embedded in and is expressed through its propositional form of predicating something of its subject.
And since contradictions cannot exist, the law of contradiction and its propositional forms are necessary not only for thought but being.
They are not conventions or useful fictions, but divine thoughts, which we share in without becoming Divine.
Thus, when I’m ignorant of certain things or turn away from them, the object and its meaning still exists.
A proposition is the meaning of a declarative sentence that is either true or false. And it means something specific and not something else. This is the same for God and man.