@@whisperviz1346 we have to include yinlin's weapon because jiyan also needs his signature weapon to get massive damage boost... jiyan without his weapon deals same damage as calcharo and yonlin or havoc rover...
Jiyan does all his damage through his resonance liberation. Raising his basic attack talent does absolutely nothing, except if you're basic attacking outside his ult. Which is okay for overworld i guess but not really worth it. Moga i like your content but please check a few guides before making videos. Resources are scarce enough in this game for f2p players, don't mislead people (i know it's not on purpose but that's the end result) to waste resources.
Up, this is the reason I unsubbed him in the first place, all the way in his Genshin days, I thought maybe he has changed over the years but nah, still the same content filled with misleading info...
@@vl6702 yes but they aren't affected by his basic attack talent. The liberation talent has separate multipliers which affect the damage. Just because it's considered "heavy attack dmg" doesn't mean it relies on his basic attack talent. In genshin, do you level up Raiden's basic attack to get more dmg from her burst? No, because raiden's burst has it's own multipliers. It's the same thing.
@@Mirongw I'm gonna be fully in nerd mode so If you don't want to read this it's fine, First genshin and Wuwa is different games just because it's similar doesn't mean the same, but I digress. Second, why do you think his signature weapons give heavy attack damage bonus? and why Mortefi is good with him? Third, this is my experience but I use Calcharo as my main DPS and Mortefi as the buffer using Impermanence heron. I thought for the first time Calcharo's damage based on his heavy attack because of his forte "Mercy" this also applies to his liberation because in the forte its says Heavy attack: "Death Messenger". that's why I choose Mortefi but later on I realize that it says based on Liberation dmg and change Mortefi to Jianxin and yeah his Liberation attack chain is increased after using Jianxin outro skill. Sorry if my English is bad it is not my first language and I use Grammarly lol. And no I'm not mad or anything, just want to give info so if I am wrong please tell me
@@vl6702 see i never disagreed that it counts as heavy attack damage. But my point is that the multipliers used come from his resonance liberation talent not from his basic attack talent. Yes getting heavy damage bonus does increase his damage and makes his synergy with mortefi better. You're right about all of that. I think you're just misunderstanding what I'm saying he said wrong. You can try it out yourself. Check Jiyan damage in ult mode. Then increase level up basic attack talent once and try again. You will not see an increase in damage. If you level up liberation talent, the damage will increase. And yes calcharo is different because his damage is considered liberation dmg not heavy attack (except the death messenger). But that was never my point. I have just been trying to make the talent needed to be leveled up clear, not the dmg bonus you want from echoes/weapons. My point is that Jiyan's damage comes from his liberation talent multiplies. It being counted as heavy attack dmg doesn't make it scale with basic attack talent levels. Being counted as heavy attack only makes heavy dmg bonus from echoes/weapons increase damage. And my comparison to genshin was only to give an example of another character who has a kit in which you level up burst and not the normal attacks while the description mentions it as normal attack damage. Same as ayato and clorinde also.
Bruh I’ve seen Chixia do more dmg than most characters, these are mostly Guides for dummies 😆, nobody’s guides are anywhere near accurate, because of limited resources
First team is: Encore - first 5 star I got. Sanhua - nice sub dps, buffs Encore and Ive gotten a lot of copies of her. Verina - lost 50/50 to her on the limited banner. Second team will probably be: Yinlin - have guarantee and decided to skip Jiyan after losing 50/50. Calcharo - I got lucky and got Jiyan's weapon with just the pulls you buy from shop with coral, so need to use that. Baizhi - or Jianxin, but I don't like how clunky getting the shield is, so all she really brings is the outro buff and I guess suction, but as the targeting is hot garbage in the game, even that is questionable. Also got 0 copies of Mortefi, despite ~100 pulls on the limited banner (hit hard pity until losing 50/50), which is another reason to just skip Jiyan for me.
Failed steps 1 & 2, despite using ~100 pulls on limited banner. Yes, 0 copies of Mortefi, lost 50/50 at hard pity and did some extra pulls. As such, skipping them now and saving for Yinlin instead.
Sanhua is a very good support/sub dps unit if your main dps damage come from basic attack damage like Encore. Her outro skill give 38% basic attack damage bonus. And unlike most characters, all you need is to launch her combo (Q > HA > E > HA or E > HA > Q > HA) properly and she pretty much gonna have 100% uptime for her outro skill by only spending 3-4 secs time on the field.
@@Sh4dowMast3r tf you on about? is (basic attack -> basic attack -> basic attack -> skill > skill > skill) hard? you are telling me lingyang is easier?
I don't have mortefi, I've been running jianxin with jiyan and verina as a healer, but i've found myself literally never using verina, just setting up jianxin's shield and transferring it to jiyan and taking no damage, switching back just before the shield runs out to heal jianxin if she took any damage while doing the attacks to build up the forte circuit, then building up shield with her again and switching back to jiyan. has worked for pretty much every situation for me somehow so far but I'm only at union level 30 so
6:54 bro no replace baizhi jianxin is way better especially with calcharo plus she is an better healer/shielder and her buffs are easier to get and deals extra damage plus groups enemies i love her so much ❤
I was lucky enough to get Jiyan after missing the first 5050 to Jianxan, I got Verina from the selector banner, and Calcharo with the free selector. Jianxan and Calcharo roll everything.
I for some reason, thought that Jiyan‘s attack combos are hard to figure out than Calcharo, so I just decided to make my own combos and if they work they work
Would like to see your take on what is the most future proof team and what is the best way of continuing with the same team if the next stage of power creep does not appeal to you.
I’m so close on building Encore properly. I invested in Spector too much before I got Havoc MC though. Now I’m low on resources, so I kinda have to wait a bit before I can switch over.
No, unfortunately Calcharo + Yinlin won't be AS strong as in CBT2, because Calcharo relies on Switching to another character when he does that slam attack, using the other character's skills and switching to him back, the problem is that now Yinlin's Other Skill Buff will expire if you take Calcharo off the field
I usually Play with Encore, Virina and Jiyan. My second team of choice is Rover, Verina and Jiyan. Encore is pretty strong, she can deal a lot of damage but she's more difficult to use than Jiyan. Jiyan is broken, Verina provides support and heals. Havoc Rover is very strong. Jianshin is a solid support DPS that can provide shield and a bit of healing. Baizhi is Virina's side grade since we don't have other true healers in the game, Verina is better, but Baizhi is still good, you would still need her in the tower of adversity for your second team.
Any tips on who to pick for someone absolutely loving Jiyan as Main DPS, but despising the gameplay of all pistol-characters? I have Verina as third, but I don't wanna pick Mortefi. T_T At this point I'm even considering switching to Calcharo, just to avoid having to play him...
I leveled mortefi until I looked up teams, now I have havoc mc Norte varina as a team, should i swap Norte for senhua or danjin? Norte is like 10 level behind the others and skills are all level 1 🙈 trying to get changli…but already got the flying dude with m lost 50/50🫠
I'm out here just having fun with Pistol Resonators. Aalto and Mortefi with Verina. I even have Jiyan and Calcharo but, I want to play pistol resonators lol. I'd play all 3 of them if I didn't need SOMEONE to heal the team.
I lost my Jiyan 50/50 to Verina, who’s now at S1. Should I just use my beginner banner selector on Verina to get her S2? I already have Calcharo and none of the other standard banner characters appeal to me. My main team is Calcharo, Mortefi, Verina.
Havoc MC is a bit more offensive; can benefit from basic attack boosting and has a much stronger ult than Spectro. I think Specto gets a bit of healing added to their kit when they get more of the Wavebands
my current team is lingyang, encore, & verina, cuz i like animals :3 lingyang = kitty, encore has sheepies, and verina's vine kinda looks like a tail i find lingyang most fun to play, and encore most satisfying before i recently decided on verina, i'd been using aalto, cuz his sunglasses are funny on my side acc, i use chixia, baizhi, & sanhua; chixia i find the most fun, and sanhua reminds me of rhythm games, and baizhi's dragon thing is cute and reminds me of my friend
I got jiyan in my first 10 pulls luckily. But I don't have mortefi. And I don't wanna pull cause I want save for upcoming characters. Suggest me some teams for jiyan without mortefi. (Currently I have rover, calcharo, verina, jianxin, baizhi, chixia, danjin, sanhua, and yangyang.)
Hey this has nothing to do with the video but can u revisit hyperbloom kuki.for team do kuki,nahida,snake guy(I can’t spell his name), and water dude. Kuki needs as much em as possible (freedom sworn is better then key unless key is R5) and the bloom set is best, nahida stats don’t matter but she will need deep wood and building her with er is good for snake guy, snake guy want 50k hp and enough er to burst every rotation, wader dude is normal just er. Rotation is kuki skill, nahida skill+burst,water dude burst + skill, snake guy burst (u can skill but unless you need healing or energy it’s pointless, kuki will now just normal attack spam on field and reset skill when needed.for those who read this (thank you) and are like “but kuki c6” shut up, that for one is only active 1/3 of the time and the em and hyperbloom damage she gets from nahida and snake guy magerly out way it in numbers and up time.(I will keep commenting his on videos untill it happens)
I went all in for R6 (Or S6 I don't know their exact terminology) for Jiyan and got Mortefi R6 as well, them plus Verina is a really strong team with real good damage. So my main team is the same as yours lol
I don't know why, but it feels like there's a lot of misinformation in my personal opinion. Especially when the 4 stars are eliminated straight out at the beginning. Also the analysis of the 5 stars, seems a bit off...
Can you actually do some research and watch other guides before making one of your own? Because you always seem to be spreading misinformation on 'guides' you make....
![ROVER IS BROKEN! Full Havoc Rover Guide & Build [Best Echoes, Weapons & Teams] - Wuthering Waves](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XWTTTdeALKA/mqdefault.jpg)
The MC that is actually strong in-game and lorewise.
Yeah, very rare in gacha games.
Trailblazer: am I a joke to you?
I agree ,the trailblazer is a very strong character and he can be main dps or support ,but don't know why people see him as a joke 😔@@Pako_345
I really like encore. My encore personally does 1000 per slice of basic atrack and her skill does 4000 damage non crit. Im really invested into her.
what level are you? i swear, my mc is level 60 and can barely do 3 digit damage on a crit😭😹 or is like encore thing?
@@jougen im level 60 but most my echoes are 5 stars
Same! A good team for her is encore, yinlin/,baizuh/verina but could you tell me what team you have because that's some good damage you have there
I'm building encore as well, is there any tips you can give me?
Isn't encore the highest damaging unit? I saw a CN dps analysis...
with Yinlin weapon, yes.
She deal more damage than Jiyan with his signature weapon
@@whisperviz1346 we have to include yinlin's weapon because jiyan also needs his signature weapon to get massive damage boost... jiyan without his weapon deals same damage as calcharo and yonlin or havoc rover...
This game needs to be on console 😭 plss
get a pc and plug your controller onto your pc
@@Croxy115 buy me the pc then I will
they're already working on the controller(from recent dev post) so hopefully console isn't far off
Yes, yes. Finally. A like minded individual that shares my goal. Together our voices will be heard
@@locamiGI u don't work do ya?
Jiyan does all his damage through his resonance liberation. Raising his basic attack talent does absolutely nothing, except if you're basic attacking outside his ult. Which is okay for overworld i guess but not really worth it.
Moga i like your content but please check a few guides before making videos. Resources are scarce enough in this game for f2p players, don't mislead people (i know it's not on purpose but that's the end result) to waste resources.
Up, this is the reason I unsubbed him in the first place, all the way in his Genshin days, I thought maybe he has changed over the years but nah, still the same content filled with misleading info...
nah, read more on his skills and you can see his forte and liberation are considered as heavy attack damage
@@vl6702 yes but they aren't affected by his basic attack talent. The liberation talent has separate multipliers which affect the damage.
Just because it's considered "heavy attack dmg" doesn't mean it relies on his basic attack talent.
In genshin, do you level up Raiden's basic attack to get more dmg from her burst? No, because raiden's burst has it's own multipliers. It's the same thing.
@@Mirongw I'm gonna be fully in nerd mode so If you don't want to read this it's fine, First genshin and Wuwa is different games just because it's similar doesn't mean the same, but I digress.
Second, why do you think his signature weapons give heavy attack damage bonus? and why Mortefi is good with him?
Third, this is my experience but I use Calcharo as my main DPS and Mortefi as the buffer using Impermanence heron. I thought for the first time Calcharo's damage based on his heavy attack because of his forte "Mercy" this also applies to his liberation because in the forte its says Heavy attack: "Death Messenger". that's why I choose Mortefi but later on I realize that it says based on Liberation dmg and change Mortefi to Jianxin and yeah his Liberation attack chain is increased after using Jianxin outro skill. Sorry if my English is bad it is not my first language and I use Grammarly lol. And no I'm not mad or anything, just want to give info so if I am wrong please tell me
@@vl6702 see i never disagreed that it counts as heavy attack damage. But my point is that the multipliers used come from his resonance liberation talent not from his basic attack talent.
Yes getting heavy damage bonus does increase his damage and makes his synergy with mortefi better. You're right about all of that.
I think you're just misunderstanding what I'm saying he said wrong.
You can try it out yourself.
Check Jiyan damage in ult mode. Then increase level up basic attack talent once and try again. You will not see an increase in damage.
If you level up liberation talent, the damage will increase.
And yes calcharo is different because his damage is considered liberation dmg not heavy attack (except the death messenger). But that was never my point.
I have just been trying to make the talent needed to be leveled up clear, not the dmg bonus you want from echoes/weapons.
My point is that Jiyan's damage comes from his liberation talent multiplies. It being counted as heavy attack dmg doesn't make it scale with basic attack talent levels. Being counted as heavy attack only makes heavy dmg bonus from echoes/weapons increase damage.
And my comparison to genshin was only to give an example of another character who has a kit in which you level up burst and not the normal attacks while the description mentions it as normal attack damage. Same as ayato and clorinde also.
0:15 You do Encore dirty like that? No shot...
Choosing lingyang over encore is insane
he said he doesn't have Encore
@@ImagineCats9339 i mean one doesn't need to have encore to know that she's a DPS..... unless he really doesn't know that encore is DPS.
@@bewe5473 WDYM ?! he said she is a solid DPS .. 0:47 ! Did you even watch the video
You guys did not watch the video….
mann but danjin's dmg output is amazing
Here for this comment!
She is! And she's my permanent member for my havoc rover, her smile man I can't get enough of it.
She is solid, but nothing crazy especially considering that she is very squishy
Bruh I’ve seen Chixia do more dmg than most characters, these are mostly Guides for dummies 😆, nobody’s guides are anywhere near accurate, because of limited resources
First team is:
Encore - first 5 star I got.
Sanhua - nice sub dps, buffs Encore and Ive gotten a lot of copies of her.
Verina - lost 50/50 to her on the limited banner.
Second team will probably be:
Yinlin - have guarantee and decided to skip Jiyan after losing 50/50.
Calcharo - I got lucky and got Jiyan's weapon with just the pulls you buy from shop with coral, so need to use that.
Baizhi - or Jianxin, but I don't like how clunky getting the shield is, so all she really brings is the outro buff and I guess suction, but as the targeting is hot garbage in the game, even that is questionable.
Also got 0 copies of Mortefi, despite ~100 pulls on the limited banner (hit hard pity until losing 50/50), which is another reason to just skip Jiyan for me.
Step 1 & 2
Get jiyan and mortefi
Step 3 verina
All step done 😌
Next step get yinlin!
Failed steps 1 & 2, despite using ~100 pulls on limited banner. Yes, 0 copies of Mortefi, lost 50/50 at hard pity and did some extra pulls.
As such, skipping them now and saving for Yinlin instead.
Sanhua is a very good support/sub dps unit if your main dps damage come from basic attack damage like Encore.
Her outro skill give 38% basic attack damage bonus.
And unlike most characters, all you need is to launch her combo (Q > HA > E > HA or E > HA > Q > HA) properly and she pretty much gonna have 100% uptime for her outro skill by only spending 3-4 secs time on the field.
Sanhua can detonate her intro, skill, and liberation with one heavy. You don't need to do one for each icicle.
@@Nudderbols that is to guaranty you fill her concerto energy in one go so you can immediately active her outro skill
Shud I choose baizhi or sanhua with rover and verina in my team please help
I main jianxin and imma die on this hill until that magistrate lady comes out
Bruh danjin is a secret 5 star, you gotta consider her as a main dps 100%
Yeah but the skill lv needed to utilise her properly is very high
@@Sh4dowMast3r tf you on about? is (basic attack -> basic attack -> basic attack -> skill > skill > skill) hard? you are telling me lingyang is easier?
0:15 w-why if they’re 4 star? 😢 Danjin is strong
seriously, why aren’t 4 stars considered as important as 5 stars?
I don't have mortefi, I've been running jianxin with jiyan and verina as a healer, but i've found myself literally never using verina, just setting up jianxin's shield and transferring it to jiyan and taking no damage, switching back just before the shield runs out to heal jianxin if she took any damage while doing the attacks to build up the forte circuit, then building up shield with her again and switching back to jiyan. has worked for pretty much every situation for me somehow so far but I'm only at union level 30 so
6:54 bro no replace baizhi jianxin is way better especially with calcharo plus she is an better healer/shielder and her buffs are easier to get and deals extra damage plus groups enemies i love her so much ❤
I was lucky enough to get Jiyan after missing the first 5050 to Jianxan, I got Verina from the selector banner, and Calcharo with the free selector. Jianxan and Calcharo roll everything.
I for some reason, thought that Jiyan‘s attack combos are hard to figure out than Calcharo, so I just decided to make my own combos and if they work they work
Would like to see your take on what is the most future proof team and what is the best way of continuing with the same team if the next stage of power creep does not appeal to you.
I’m so close on building Encore properly. I invested in Spector too much before I got Havoc MC though. Now I’m low on resources, so I kinda have to wait a bit before I can switch over.
No, unfortunately Calcharo + Yinlin won't be AS strong as in CBT2, because Calcharo relies on Switching to another character when he does that slam attack, using the other character's skills and switching to him back, the problem is that now Yinlin's Other Skill Buff will expire if you take Calcharo off the field
Doesn’t Sephiroth's Ult mostly do basic attack damage and then have one attack do Ult damage
BRO...JIYAN IS AN ABSOLUTE BEAST ...I HAVE GOT HIM IN 10 PULLS
Don't need to worry about that then.
Went for the full 80 pity on Jiyan, missed and currently at 19/80 pity saving for Yinlin.
I usually Play with Encore, Virina and Jiyan. My second team of choice is Rover, Verina and Jiyan. Encore is pretty strong, she can deal a lot of damage but she's more difficult to use than Jiyan. Jiyan is broken, Verina provides support and heals. Havoc Rover is very strong. Jianshin is a solid support DPS that can provide shield and a bit of healing. Baizhi is Virina's side grade since we don't have other true healers in the game, Verina is better, but Baizhi is still good, you would still need her in the tower of adversity for your second team.
What's the difference between DMG bonus and DMG deepen?
you didnt mention taoqi at all
For a good reason...
You forgot that Spectro MC is a healer on his RC4
Any tips on who to pick for someone absolutely loving Jiyan as Main DPS, but despising the gameplay of all pistol-characters? I have Verina as third, but I don't wanna pick Mortefi. T_T At this point I'm even considering switching to Calcharo, just to avoid having to play him...
Encore with yinlin's weapon does literally about the same damage as jiyan with his weapon
can’t you use mortefi with calcharo since with calcharo forte thing makes his heavy attack do more dmg
This aint genshin, danjin is great four star means nothing
What does "Deepen" buff mean/do? There's really no explanation in-game that I can find.
It just means it powers it up, like Sanhua will "deepen" basic attacks - meaning she will strenghten them
Shud I choose baizhi or sanhua with rover and verina in my team please help
I leveled mortefi until I looked up teams, now I have havoc mc Norte varina as a team, should i swap Norte for senhua or danjin? Norte is like 10 level behind the others and skills are all level 1 🙈 trying to get changli…but already got the flying dude with m lost 50/50🫠
Team 1
MC, Encore, Baizhi
Team 2
Calcharo, Encore, Baizhi
how is it?
im aiming for full dps build
more team you build more team you need
were getting sm rewards tomorrow and on june 10
I'm out here just having fun with Pistol Resonators. Aalto and Mortefi with Verina. I even have Jiyan and Calcharo but, I want to play pistol resonators lol. I'd play all 3 of them if I didn't need SOMEONE to heal the team.
Is there anyone who knows when this is coming out on Mac? I can barely run it on mobile
Want to make a good team? A youtuber named gamebreaker god you covered
I lost my Jiyan 50/50 to Verina, who’s now at S1. Should I just use my beginner banner selector on Verina to get her S2? I already have Calcharo and none of the other standard banner characters appeal to me. My main team is Calcharo, Mortefi, Verina.
You can also replace Mortefi with Sanhua
I got encore and jiyan on the 10 spin so I'm watching this
At first I was like oh not Encore? But no she there
is havoc mc better than spectro or its basically the same depending on echoes and weapons it equires?
Havoc MC is a bit more offensive; can benefit from basic attack boosting and has a much stronger ult than Spectro.
I think Specto gets a bit of healing added to their kit when they get more of the Wavebands
my current team is lingyang, encore, & verina, cuz i like animals :3 lingyang = kitty, encore has sheepies, and verina's vine kinda looks like a tail
i find lingyang most fun to play, and encore most satisfying
before i recently decided on verina, i'd been using aalto, cuz his sunglasses are funny
on my side acc, i use chixia, baizhi, & sanhua; chixia i find the most fun, and sanhua reminds me of rhythm games, and baizhi's dragon thing is cute and reminds me of my friend
I got jiyan in my first 10 pulls luckily. But I don't have mortefi. And I don't wanna pull cause I want save for upcoming characters.
Suggest me some teams for jiyan without mortefi.
(Currently I have rover, calcharo, verina, jianxin, baizhi, chixia, danjin, sanhua, and yangyang.)
I have Jianxin, Encore, Verina and Jiyan yet.... my team is Spectro Rover, RC6 Sanhua and Baizhi and somehow this team is strong af
Hey this has nothing to do with the video but can u revisit hyperbloom kuki.for team do kuki,nahida,snake guy(I can’t spell his name), and water dude. Kuki needs as much em as possible (freedom sworn is better then key unless key is R5) and the bloom set is best, nahida stats don’t matter but she will need deep wood and building her with er is good for snake guy, snake guy want 50k hp and enough er to burst every rotation, wader dude is normal just er. Rotation is kuki skill, nahida skill+burst,water dude burst + skill, snake guy burst (u can skill but unless you need healing or energy it’s pointless, kuki will now just normal attack spam on field and reset skill when needed.for those who read this (thank you) and are like “but kuki c6” shut up, that for one is only active 1/3 of the time and the em and hyperbloom damage she gets from nahida and snake guy magerly out way it in numbers and up time.(I will keep commenting his on videos untill it happens)
I went all in for R6 (Or S6 I don't know their exact terminology) for Jiyan and got Mortefi R6 as well, them plus Verina is a really strong team with real good damage. So my main team is the same as yours lol
Danjin
my team is havoc rover , jianxin and verina is that good
Moga can you do the event in genshin it’s actually difficult
I use calcharo with mortefi and veridna
Daijin c6 obliterating anyone on her path
i love lingyang ☹️☹️ i play him with verina and chixia
Haha I always main the “worst” standard five stars LOL. I main Yanqing and Lingyang but they aren’t bad at all
We NEED four character slots bro 😭😭😭
Lol I main yangyang...
And here my main dps is sanhua with 80cr 210cd.......
Danjin is better than most 5* dps tho
Jinshi is best 🗣️
No Taoqi My Heart 🥲
Reasons why i WONT use lingyang and encore as my main dps
First, ones a furry the others cringe... kinda cute no diddy tho.
That concludes my reasons
Tiny encore 😭😭😭
I just use sanhua as dps 🤣😭😭
Not sure if somebody who fails to understand simple mechanics of characters should make guides lmfao
I don't know why, but it feels like there's a lot of misinformation in my personal opinion. Especially when the 4 stars are eliminated straight out at the beginning. Also the analysis of the 5 stars, seems a bit off...
🍔🍔🍔
Can you actually do some research and watch other guides before making one of your own? Because you always seem to be spreading misinformation on 'guides' you make....
First
only 210 views in 6 minutes. bro fell off
how u do dat
Haha I always main the “worst” standard five stars LOL. I main Yanqing and Lingyang but they aren’t bad at all