Literally the first thing I thought about when they started talking about draft busts was if they were gonna bring up Luc Bourdon. Thank god Steve was there to quickly clear it up.
On the downside pretty sure Huberdeau and Weegar are UFA’s so the only reason I could see it not being a win is if they can’t resign them and they walk. But that’s a conversation for the middle of the season
Nice to see 'Too Many Men' t-shirt - Dangle. Big question does Producer Drew have one. Love to see you supporting Kadri's Foundation. Every Avs fan probably has one too, along with the Stanley Cup Champions ones.
Luc Bourdon is such an unfortunate story and I hate how everyone makes it sound like he’s a bust. Was a legend on team Canada in the world juniors and I vividly remember watching his game tying goal against the Americans back in 07. Thank you Steve for clearing that up.
Can't wait for their next podcast on the FLEECING that the Flames did to the Panthers on the Tkachuk trade...No one in hockey would've expected Huberdeau to move......
That and the fact it's not just a staight up Tkachuk for Huberdeau trade is what makes this such a head scratcher. I'm still trying to figure out how the Flames managed that + 2 extra players and a 1st rounder.
@@Asch519 With Huberdeau's contract (which in itself is too good at the moment) expiring in a year I would've understood a pick and that prospect... but a player of Weegar's caliber? A head scratcher for sure. Might be something else in a year of course. Either way.
My trade proposal is Tkachuk to the Panthers for noted Alan Walsh client Johnathan Huberdeau, Mackenzie Weegar, Cole Schwindt and a conditional 2025 1st round pick. Call me crazy, but it just seems to make sense to me.
I love steves reaction when Jesse mentioned the Knights as a place Tkachuk would sign with that is absolutely beautiful especially the get a calculator
nono i agree with steve i think the 2012 draft has some players. Teuvo Teravainen, Adam Pelech, Frederik Andersen , Jaccob Slavin and Connor Hellebuyck where all drafted in that draft to name a few and in a redraft you could argue that those guys could all have gone top 5. It was a really weak draft but a redraft now would be extremely interesting
Yeah it really was. Crazy to think that year had Anderson, Vasilevskiy, Hellebuck & Murray. It really was the year of the goalies that none of us knew about lol. But yeah that 1st round was a really bad drafting just in general, most of those 1st rounders didn't turn out half as good as expected and the like 4 or 5 players that did went way too low in the draft. Hindsights crazy but it's mindblowing that Vasey was drafted 19th overall by the lightning looking back on it. What a steal.
God damn Florida got fleeced in this trade. As a leafs fan im ecstatic about this. Personally, I think Florida got worse with this trade and gave up a 1st rounder. Wow!
Make the Prez trophy worth 23 million dollars for the players based on games played, including those traded or inured. For example, if you played all 82 games for the winning team that is one million for you. If you played 10 games for them before being sent back to the minors or being traded you would get one million divided by 82 for a game rate and then times it by your 10 games. That way no matter your role on a potential Prez trophy team you are rewarded for your part in that incredible season by the team.
If you’re a hockey, or any sport, executive and your secretary says “Rick Westhead is on line 3” do you just start swearing and swearing uncontrollably?
As an American hockey fan, I am embarrassed right with you. Unfortunately, it happens to be occuring under Canada and hockey's name. Even more unfortunately, it goes across borders and across sports as a culture. Football, baseball, basketball, even gymnastics all share this toxic culture. I think (and this should be obvious) that complete transparecy at every level is a must. Don't give these "people" any place to hide. Its going to take a while, but it can be done...
Totally agree, imagine how greatly these kids lives have been changed forever. Those responsible for these heinous crimes and those that aided in the coverup, no matter who it is must be held accountable and severely punished. Sick!
I remember the day Luc Bourdon passed like it was yesterday, we were season tickets holders for the Manitoba moose right on the glass and I can still see clear in my mind Luc lined up for a face off right infront of me. So sad
@@MikeRC21 "Ka-rade" if the "Tka" is pronounced the same way as it is in Tkachuk. That's why I though "Tkachrade" was a better pun. Great show regardless
You guys need to get paid, I get it. I will, however, say thank you for playing the same recorded ads in every episode so I can easily skip them by watching for the frame where your t-shirts change back.
Vaguely remember a few years ago an entertainment chat show host saying something along the lines of "Every hockey player I've ever met was a jerk." Caused a brouhaha at the time of course. Looking back at it now, is it still a hyperbolic gross generalization? Certainly but maybe there's an ounce of truth to it, certainly more than a lot of people would like to admit.
As hard as it is to talk about the subject it is awesome to see you guys handle the sexual assault cases within the NHL Thank you for bringing it to light By talking about it we can change the culture This channel rocks
I could see Yzerman trading Filip Zadina in a package to the Coyotes for Victor Soderstrom. It looked like Yzerman had interest during the draft with the Coyotes.
I love it when Steve rants "Vegas Nights get a calculator." You know Steve, school and training camp starts in September. You could buy the team a calculator using a back to school sale.
Just a heads up, transitioning AHL franchises from Oklahoma City to Bakersfield 15-16 was the rookie season for that AHL franchise. It was an ECHL team before that year, k. And also, if you mention Yakupov, you have to mention no AHL time spent, and on the other side of that argument, is Akim Alieu who had played in Bakersfield in ECHL, and chooses to run to KHL instead of waiting around for AHL transition.
The Canucks I felt have been good at drafting of late, just incredibly bad at cap and asset management. Hughes at 7 in 2018, Pettersson at 5 in 2017, Boeser at 23rd in 2015, they definitely haven’t been consistent but they could have done much worse
“Good at drafting” *remembers Juolevi over Tkachuk.* Benning was awful at drafting too, when he did it cause he kept trading all the picks. Canucks fans just try to find a tiny silver lining or bright side so the 8 years of Benning weren’t a complete waste. They were.
I’ll say it, this has been the best, most exciting, for league changing offseason in the last 25 years no doubt! 3, 100 point players on the move. The east became deeper, and very few teams got worse in my opinion. Devils improved, blue jackets improved, Oilers improved, Detroit improved, the flames lost there two best players who were 2 of the best in the NHL last year and are still a very good playoff team. Next. Season. Will. Be. Amazing. Cannot wait
Steve misunderstood the Tkachuk list by Rutherford - it's teams that Tkachuk are rumoured to want to play for - NSH, FLA, VGK, STL. STL or tax friendly US states.
As a Habs fan, I obviously love to hate the Leafs, even more than the Bruins but I don’t miss one of your podcasts which is a testimony of how good it is. Keep up your good work Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield for 10 years Go Habs Go 😉
I'd like a three way deal between the islanders, blues, and flames. Islanders send beavillier, mayfield, and a first to the blues for tarasenko. This makes cap room and gives the blues more assets so they can afford to send their first round and a few of their own assets to the flames for tkachuk. Triple win
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Literally the first thing I thought about when they started talking about draft busts was if they were gonna bring up Luc Bourdon. Thank god Steve was there to quickly clear it up.
Posted the pod when I needed a boost to the night , you guys rock
Thanks boys. Love this cast. Always make my days that much better.
Best hockey podcast out there forsure!
Huge Tkachuk trade! Can't wait to hear what the boys think
Spoiler: Calgary did not get fleeced
On the downside pretty sure Huberdeau and Weegar are UFA’s so the only reason I could see it not being a win is if they can’t resign them and they walk. But that’s a conversation for the middle of the season
Luc Bourdon would’ve been a star. He had tons of potential.
He was gonna be in the lineup the year he passed for sure.
Nice to see 'Too Many Men' t-shirt - Dangle. Big question does Producer Drew have one.
Love to see you supporting Kadri's Foundation. Every Avs fan probably has one too, along with the Stanley Cup Champions ones.
Luc Bourdon is such an unfortunate story and I hate how everyone makes it sound like he’s a bust. Was a legend on team Canada in the world juniors and I vividly remember watching his game tying goal against the Americans back in 07. Thank you Steve for clearing that up.
he had an absolute bomb from the top of the blue line
Luc Bourdon was going to be a stud. I still remember hearing about his accident, and the tribute the Canucks did for him.
Love watching this podcast after the trade happened
Thanks for posting guys, you got Tkachuk traded today
Yo guys can you do more of those cheap dollar store hockey card unboxings
The podcast was uploaded 4 hours ago and Tkachuk was just traded to Florida. The trend continues!
Insane haul for Calgary
Steve has inside knowledge and trolls us
Can't wait for their next podcast on the FLEECING that the Flames did to the Panthers on the Tkachuk trade...No one in hockey would've expected Huberdeau to move......
That and the fact it's not just a staight up Tkachuk for Huberdeau trade is what makes this such a head scratcher. I'm still trying to figure out how the Flames managed that + 2 extra players and a 1st rounder.
@@Asch519 With Huberdeau's contract (which in itself is too good at the moment) expiring in a year I would've understood a pick and that prospect... but a player of Weegar's caliber? A head scratcher for sure. Might be something else in a year of course. Either way.
I would pick Iginla as best player to not win a cup
My trade proposal is Tkachuk to the Panthers for noted Alan Walsh client Johnathan Huberdeau, Mackenzie Weegar, Cole Schwindt and a conditional 2025 1st round pick. Call me crazy, but it just seems to make sense to me.
Podcast: *Finishes recording*
Jarmo Kekäläinen: Sign Laine and trade Bjorkstrand NOW!
Finnishes* recording
Imagine Edmonton with Vasilevskiy right now.
Thanks for the pod, guys. Gave us an absolute haul.
I love steves reaction when Jesse mentioned the Knights as a place Tkachuk would sign with that is absolutely beautiful especially the get a calculator
nono i agree with steve i think the 2012 draft has some players. Teuvo Teravainen, Adam Pelech, Frederik Andersen , Jaccob Slavin and Connor Hellebuyck where all drafted in that draft to name a few and in a redraft you could argue that those guys could all have gone top 5. It was a really weak draft but a redraft now would be extremely interesting
Funny how Turbo Freddie and Slavin are all canes
Yeah it really was. Crazy to think that year had Anderson, Vasilevskiy, Hellebuck & Murray. It really was the year of the goalies that none of us knew about lol. But yeah that 1st round was a really bad drafting just in general, most of those 1st rounders didn't turn out half as good as expected and the like 4 or 5 players that did went way too low in the draft. Hindsights crazy but it's mindblowing that Vasey was drafted 19th overall by the lightning looking back on it. What a steal.
God damn Florida got fleeced in this trade. As a leafs fan im ecstatic about this. Personally, I think Florida got worse with this trade and gave up a 1st rounder. Wow!
Make the Prez trophy worth 23 million dollars for the players based on games played, including those traded or inured. For example, if you played all 82 games for the winning team that is one million for you. If you played 10 games for them before being sent back to the minors or being traded you would get one million divided by 82 for a game rate and then times it by your 10 games. That way no matter your role on a potential Prez trophy team you are rewarded for your part in that incredible season by the team.
This is really good, but it would require billionaires paying their players which they are always reluctant to do lol
No one cares about the presidents trophy
“Imagine how many cups the oilers would have over the last decade if they made just vaguely good decisions…” - Steve Dangle
Hahahahaha
Steven with the save on Luc Bourdon.
It's so sad to hear about Scott, I hope he gets a job in the league/team if he wants it
Yeah, I was following his development since he was drafted, and it's just been one thing after another. Really feel bad for the guy.
If you’re a hockey, or any sport, executive and your secretary says “Rick Westhead is on line 3” do you just start swearing and swearing uncontrollably?
As an American hockey fan, I am embarrassed right with you. Unfortunately, it happens to be occuring under Canada and hockey's name. Even more unfortunately, it goes across borders and across sports as a culture. Football, baseball, basketball, even gymnastics all share this toxic culture. I think (and this should be obvious) that complete transparecy at every level is a must. Don't give these "people" any place to hide. Its going to take a while, but it can be done...
Totally agree, imagine how greatly these kids lives have been changed forever. Those responsible for these heinous crimes and those that aided in the coverup, no matter who it is must be held accountable and severely punished. Sick!
Jesse has proved himself to be a brutal gm i cant take the bertuzzi to canada trade seriously ahah
Matthew Tkachuk is a Florida panther! 😭
I remember the day Luc Bourdon passed like it was yesterday, we were season tickets holders for the Manitoba moose right on the glass and I can still see clear in my mind Luc lined up for a face off right infront of me. So sad
I don’t remember much from my childhood , but I’ll never forget Marian hossa’s high stick on Bernard .
As usual, perfect timing lads! Just before the trade finalises! Knew it'd get done as soon as the pod came up.
Just here to see if they predicted the flames fleecing the panthers like thos
Just a few hours in and the main part of the pod is outdated. Gotta be a new record
How is this podcast not titled "Tkachrade Proposals"? It's so close! 🤣
I came here to try and find out how it's tkarade is supposed to be pronounced
@@MikeRC21 "Ka-rade" if the "Tka" is pronounced the same way as it is in Tkachuk. That's why I though "Tkachrade" was a better pun. Great show regardless
You guys need to get paid, I get it. I will, however, say thank you for playing the same recorded ads in every episode so I can easily skip them by watching for the frame where your t-shirts change back.
Haha, there was a Sherwood ad featuring tkachuk in a flames jersey before this video started
Steve: "I feel great and I've got a FAT AAASSSSSSSS!"
Hank Azaria: "...jesus..."
Man these look interesting now
Oh man the look on my face when I opened up TH-cam and saw a new upload 🥰
lol the first 45 seconds of the show are amazing xD
Vaguely remember a few years ago an entertainment chat show host saying something along the lines of "Every hockey player I've ever met was a jerk." Caused a brouhaha at the time of course. Looking back at it now, is it still a hyperbolic gross generalization? Certainly but maybe there's an ounce of truth to it, certainly more than a lot of people would like to admit.
As hard as it is to talk about the subject it is awesome to see you guys handle the sexual assault cases within the NHL
Thank you for bringing it to light
By talking about it we can change the culture
This channel rocks
I mean Griffin Reinhart led to Barzal and Beauvillier so the Isles aren't sweating that
Timing...
If the president cup came with a cash prize or something like a guaranteed 2-4th in the first round draft it think it would be far more chased after
Adam, the moustache works. It just works.
Although Adam's suggestion of eichel for Tkachuk straight up actually could be interesting
MONDAY CANT COME FAST ENOUGH OMG Can't wait for the Tkachuk/Huberdeau and Weegar segment!
you guys should do a segment called "do you know the answer" and give merch away once a week
A lot of people forget that the Warriors also drafted Anfernee (Penny) Hardaway 3rd overall in 93 NBA Draft.
"In his Hedo days" Jesus lmao never change Adam!
Question: Do Canadian Minor Hockey Programs have to kick $ up to hockey Canada? I think I've heard that before. Does anyone know?
Agree with Adam. The organisation needs stripping back , rebuilt , renamed etc like it is so badly tainted now.
Love that you ordered a Too Many Men shirt to support the Kadri Foundation
Filatov always 1 of my fav cheap pickups in the old chel games. His potential was always great.
Leafs fans dismissing the cup is my favourite part of the summer
That breaking news while you were recording. The more coming out about this 2003 stuff Is even worse than 2018
There is a big difference between isolated incidents which are unavoidable and a systemic problem.
Rip Luc. He would have been a stud.
I believe that out of all 1st overall picks, nail yakupov has the least point per games
The fact that f1 is being talked about on a hockey channel makes me very confused but happy
I could see Yzerman trading Filip Zadina in a package to the Coyotes for Victor Soderstrom. It looked like Yzerman had interest during the draft with the Coyotes.
Lol the Tkachuk trade just broke and the Jays set a franchise record for runs and hits. The podcast on Monday will be so much fun, I cant wait!
I love it when Steve rants "Vegas Nights get a calculator." You know Steve, school and training camp starts in September. You could buy the team a calculator using a back to school sale.
Just a heads up, transitioning AHL franchises from Oklahoma City to Bakersfield 15-16 was the rookie season for that AHL franchise. It was an ECHL team before that year, k. And also, if you mention Yakupov, you have to mention no AHL time spent, and on the other side of that argument, is Akim Alieu who had played in Bakersfield in ECHL, and chooses to run to KHL instead of waiting around for AHL transition.
Jesse’s trade for Tkachuk is hilarious
Hahahahahaha yes
came here this morning half expecting an epy now that hes in florida
I’m so stoked to see how insane the pod is on Monday after hearing that teams are gonna Fleece Calgary. Popcorn to go with it 🤣🤣
As a Sens fan im supposed to hate you 3 but I must say you're growing on me. Keep up the good content.
I love the summer episodes. 👍👍
This episode should've been called: "What about David ?"
Great podcast love the talk about Petry to Pittsburgh
And Marino to Jersey!
aaaaaand the episode is irrelevant...what timing unlucky
The funny thing is Steve's not even the first person who has tried to take Wolf too like Calgary is having a closing down sale
2012 was my draft year, i should've kept playing hockery, maybe I would've been in the show right now
Surprised Dangle didn’t say Iggy was the best player to not win a cup
Just got covid, gonna be stuck in my basement for a while. Keep the content rolling boys, great work!
Thank you for talking about trade possibilities for Tkachuck!!! If it were not for you guys the trade wouldnt of broke after the show :)
The Canucks I felt have been good at drafting of late, just incredibly bad at cap and asset management. Hughes at 7 in 2018, Pettersson at 5 in 2017, Boeser at 23rd in 2015, they definitely haven’t been consistent but they could have done much worse
“Good at drafting” *remembers Juolevi over Tkachuk.* Benning was awful at drafting too, when he did it cause he kept trading all the picks. Canucks fans just try to find a tiny silver lining or bright side so the 8 years of Benning weren’t a complete waste. They were.
Nucks have been really bad at development.
I’ll say it, this has been the best, most exciting, for league changing offseason in the last 25 years no doubt! 3, 100 point players on the move. The east became deeper, and very few teams got worse in my opinion. Devils improved, blue jackets improved, Oilers improved, Detroit improved, the flames lost there two best players who were 2 of the best in the NHL last year and are still a very good playoff team. Next. Season. Will. Be. Amazing. Cannot wait
As an Oilers fan I am so glad the boy's are talking about how horrible Sharelli was. Literally one of the worst GMs of all time.
I said this in the last video but ima say it again lmao, you guys should talk abt the pens roster and how different it is
@@jesseburke3990 says the one that thinks the flyers gonna make the playoffs in a stacked metro division lmao
I love the surprises in the playoffs!
12:40 Connor Hellebuyck was 130th overall in the 2012 draft. He’s up there for best players of the draft
B’s fan. I’d give them hall debrusk a first and if they want a prospect throw in studnicka or Beecher. Orrrrr take out hall and throw in lysell
Peter chiarelli was in fact hired by the bruins May 26 2006
Rest In Peace Luc, I was fortunate enough to see him play in the short stint with the Nucks before he passed
I bet Adam has a bunch of North Division Champion merchandise
At least we know what the guys will be talking about on Monday… Tkachuk to the Panthers
"Tkachuk could be a pred"!!!🤣🤣
1:15:35 super late but thanks for answering my question.
Adam’s face as he reads the statement from Hockey Canada before announcing it
Bostons GM in 2007 was Chiarelli… he might not be a very good gm
Steve misunderstood the Tkachuk list by Rutherford - it's teams that Tkachuk are rumoured to want to play for - NSH, FLA, VGK, STL. STL or tax friendly US states.
Can't handle the mustache... That's gotta go dude! :)
Lol need another podcast abt the Tkachuk news xD
Re: the Barzal thing. Oilers could have taken Vasilevsky instead of Yakupov…what’s the Oilers biggest issue? Goaltending.
As a Habs fan, I obviously love to hate the Leafs, even more than the Bruins but I don’t miss one of your podcasts which is a testimony of how good it is. Keep up your good work
Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield for 10 years
Go Habs Go 😉
As a German Leafs fan I only can say: Watch out for Stutz and Mo :)
I'd like a three way deal between the islanders, blues, and flames. Islanders send beavillier, mayfield, and a first to the blues for tarasenko. This makes cap room and gives the blues more assets so they can afford to send their first round and a few of their own assets to the flames for tkachuk. Triple win