2 best lines... "Do the Bruins draft assholes or do the Bruins breed them?" "Look at this miniature shithead, and he's blossomed info a full grown, adult shithead." Hilarious 😂
Somebody else tweeted this (sorry do not remember who), but it was perfect. "Marner has two giveaways that leads to Ducks goals. As a result, Nylander has been demoted to fourth line" 🤣
Steve's being at peace makes me picture him as Lt. Dan thanking Forrest. "I never thanked you for losing to the Ducks." Then he jumps into the lake and swims.
1@@cdubsoptional7849 , if you think about it, the LFRs are pretty much just like Lt. Dangle yelling at the Hockey Gods, on a mast, during a hurricane. "You''ll never sink our fanaticism! You call this a Game 7 collapse?!!?"
The part on Bunting was spot on - when he basically got face washed by every Duck on the ice and not one Leaf showed up. If you’re Bunting, why care? Why put yourself on the line if guys don’t play for each other.
@@dannymoxley-towns8541 🤣🤣🤣 Real taskmasters over in leafland huh? Saying they have no grit or 🔥. But when your coddled the whole way through what do you expect eh?
An example of conflict resolution during a hockey game, and one that stands out immediately as a Sens fan, is the 2017 playoffs when Karlsson yelled at Brassard on the bench in Game 2 of the 1st round vs Boston. Brassard had just made a bad play not getting back leading to a goal and #65 just had at him. But then the 3rd period came and it was Karlsson setting Brassard up for the game tying goal and Brass jumped into EK's arms. That team had quite a strong leadership group with Karl, Anderson, Methot, Phaneuf, Ryan, and Turris, plus Kelly and Neil around but not playing. That strength and togetherness is a big part of why they came so close to the SCF.
I truly believe if they didn't make the Duchene trade and fired the couch alittle sooner they would have been okay. Before that trade they had a really solid record and that team was really solid. Boucher did the same thing in Tampa. First year conference finals. Next year miss the playoffs he was a one trick pony. Hoping this Sens core will bring us back to the promise land by next season
that’s what a true brotherhood of a hockey team is like. your leaders keep you in line and will absolutely give it to you if you do something stupid or make a costly play. but if you can take it and work hard to just keep going and do even better when you get out there, that right there is what a true team does. you clash with your brothers, but you celebrate and rejoice with your brothers *coming from someone who played hockey from a young age til I was 19. so i’m not just speaking sh*t out my ass lol*
This is true. Last year, on Oct 23 vs the Pens he tried to break a stick on the bench and failed. I couldn’t believe it and felt the second-hand embarrassment. Brutal
A lot of the changes Steve talks about adding to the team reminds me exactly like how the 06-07 Sens were built. They had the high end talent in Heatley, Spezza, and Alfredsson, but Alfie was a nasty mean competitor and a great leader. Fisher hit, Neil hit, Phillips was one of the best shutdown D-men, Volchenkov laid massive hits and blocked everything. Kelly and Vermette were elite 3rd liners and were monsters on the PK. And they still had 3 good puck movers on the back end in Redden, Corvo, and Preissing. That team started 17-18-1 but finished the year 31-7-8. This Leafs team has Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander, but they could sure use guys like Phillips, Volchenkov, Fisher, and Neil - all guys that would stand up for each other.
Ah, but Adam still believes in this core. And skill. I lost it already too, AND I'M FINNISH Leaf's fan because I love Steve, Jesse. And Adam too but with an Asterix. Haha joking that last part
Gio mightve been the most effective voice at that moment. A Player his age, with his pedegree, success and years in the league give him instant credibility with other players.
Kane and Hyman were the missing pieces for the Oilers. Brought a new dimension of grit that Oilers top 6 was missing. Leafs need to find a way to add that dimension quickly.
24:00 okay but Cody Ceci is actually performing excellently with Edmonton. Maybe he found his game with them and didn't with the Leafs, but if his stats were good then and he's good now .... then likely it was something about the Leafs that was the issue
The Leafs whole blue line could use improvements, just like they did before. Trade away a 10 million dollar contract and at least start on building towards it. Getting an actual shut down pair would help build a culture this team is lacking.
here's a question: why does keefe hate building line chemistry? It's hard to get in tune with your linemates when the lines are being thrown in the blender every single game
22-23 is Babcock's last year and Keefe only got a 2 year extension. Writing's on the wall. Also, Habs had 3 coaches on the payroll last year. Julien, Ducharme and St.Louis. Edit: Look up Barry Trotz' hockey reference picture and tell me that's a coach that wouldn't get 110% out of the Leafs.
I know they have said that Trotz doesn't want to coach right now, but he also stated he would only want to coach an original 6 team. So if they Leafs made him an offer, i bet he would at least sleep on it instead of saying no outright.
@@neptunepriest I'd argue Keefe is unusable in TOR atm. 5 years with the same group and he drops a beaut; "the team is looking for itself". That's a massive red flag.
It's quite clear Adam hasn't watched the Devils this year at all. I don't think we'll win the Metro but this has been a really positive start especially after starting 0-2 and the fans calling to fire Ruff.
I’ve said it every leaf game so far this year and it keeps happening… the leafs take too many penalties and Justin Holl turns the puck over in his own end WAY too much
Another thing I found curious about the Leafs game against the Jets. When Robertson, Samsonov, and Sandin were smashed, the team went nuts and guys jumped in to have their backs, but when Marner got his face smashed off the boards, crickets. He was then yelling at the refs after every shift and it didn't look like anyone said anything to him. Might be nothing there, but it makes me wonder why the team didn't have his back on the ice.
That is a very interesting point. I wonder if between the big 4 making money, he's the one shouldering most of the blame for the team's inability to go out and leverage cap space (because we don't have any). Matthews has proven his value, JT proved it before in his early years. Yes you're paying a premium for him technically but that's what free agency does. Then Nylander has the most tradable contract, but it is because he's also the most reasonable in value today. So I wonder if you're on to something, that Marner holding out to get near Matthews money, has the team at odds with him in ways. The sad thing is, Marner drives any line he's put on so it's not like he's not worth the money. Unfortunate situation for all sides.
Y'all remember when Ovi yelled at Samsonov after a playoff loss because he messed up and played the puck and it directly led to the ge winning goal against? The Toronto Maple Leafs leadership would NEVER do that to their teammates. That's a problem.
As an Ohio native, if Steve thinks the Leafs look like the worst team in the league, I'll invite him to tune into a Jackets game. Whoa boy are they dreadful. Imagine if every Leafs' loss was by 3 or more goals...
Wouldn’t this be the biggest “leafs” year and thing to win the cup after they get talked about like this 😂. (I don’t think they will) just be a Leafs thing to do. Great pod! ❤
Adam you are incorrect about the '97 Red Wings situation. It was after Game 4 in Round 1 vs St. Louis. They had been shutout in that game and The Captain addressed the room saying everyone including himself has to play better if they are going to win anything. And they did.
Adam is making the exact point I made in the LFR comments. There is no internal culture setter for the whole team. Its the same problem in Vancouver. John Tavares and Bo Horvat are just too nice. Good player does not equal good leader.
Steve is right. This team has been a field of Lillies that other teams run through with a ride on mower. Time to drop some balls and turn this situation around. PLAY WITH HEART AND SOME GRIT !!! NO ONE HITS ANYONE ANYMORE!!! Brutal !!!!!
Watching this as a wings fan wearing an old wings sweater as I watch. I love that people compare team to late 1990’s / early 2000’s Detroit teams to explain how champions play
Well as much as people get off on Messier as a leader and all that jazz, Yzerman was by far and away the better captain. 95 to 09 (you could even stretch it to 2013 if you wanted) were absolutely amazing times to be a red wings fan.
42:30 Jessie is so right because in a team sport that happens all the time When i used to play basketball and my teammate did something dumb I'd all say something especially if i had to bail it out If my teammate lazily threw the ball into traffic and i had to battle in order to keep it from being a turnover in a game we're losing by double digits they're getting yelled at 100000% of the time no matter what and id expect them to do the same It'd be worse if i didn't tbh
Hopefully someone will take the time to read this... I know that the Oilers are not perfect and I am not saying they are, but I do believe they display what you guys are discussing. Most of their lines have IDENTITY. Of course, you should not overlook analytics, but every line has to have a purpose and cohesion, otherwise they will be exploited by the opponent. For example: Hyman (Dog, Big, Forechecker) - McD (God) - RNH (Large, Experienced Playmaker) ... Top Tier Skill Line Kane (Pain in the Ass, Strong in the corners, Goalscorer) - Drai (Playmaker, Goal Scorer) - Yamo (Annoying, Quick, Strong on puck, Forechecker) ...Skill + Size line Foegle (Large, Strong in Corners, Forechecker) - McLeod (Young, Fast, Playmaker [mini-McD]) - Puljujärvi (Big, Fast, Strong) ... Forechecking / Tire you out line Holloway (goal scorer, young, up and coming, getting his feet wet) - Ryan (experience, smart, distributor) - Shore (forechecker) ... 4th line / workhorse line. AGAIN, not saying they're perfect and obviously I am an Oilers fan, so I am biased, but Jay Woodcroft talks about this all the time. He believes each piece is a component that results in the lines overall success. Each piece brings something different and they all bring out each others best. Each player has a ROLE and they know what it is. Now, I am young, and I firmly believe in analytics. However, I have said it before and I'll say it again, Just because a team looks good on PAPER doesn't mean they will work. On paper doesn't show you a players work ethic / effort level, chemistry or grit. I know people hate "grit" but like Jay Woodcroft also says, "we may have different opinions of what physicality or "grit" is. It isn't just hitting or fighting. It is going to hard areas of the ice, winning battles and being difficult to play against". I hope for Steve's Mental Health they turn this around
@@some1fromfin Christmas Day and January first are statutory holidays, and most provinces give boxing day off as well. Many places will close early on Christmas Eve anyway. Do you get more days? I'm fascinated to know if there's much of a difference.
@@bradleymyrick2315 well, there are official holidays 25.12 26.12 and 1.1 and everything closes earlier 24.12 and 31.12 If you aren't working in retail those are days everyone takes off anyway because we get more holidays than most countries and workplaces often make these longer weekends by planning office wide extra off days there.
Want to see how a dressing room operates? there's a clip on You Tube of the recent Chicago-Minnesota game. Kane is knocked down flat from behind. Max Domi REALLY settles the score. For his efforts, Domi gets a thunderous standing ovation from the Chicago fans. For what is suppose to be a bad team, they have only lost one in regulation in their last seven.
Trade out Marner. That would be a good 1st step. It's not his play, it's his attitude. Otherwise a Scheifele/Wheeler type scenario is brewing. However, what does his absence do to Matthews? I want to know if Austin is okay with Marner's behaviour and attitude. Now I know why Holl is still around. He's best buds with Marner. Getting Keefe to grow a spine would be another good move.
Years ago I listened to Mark Spector on Prime Time Sports. It's the only time I emailed a show and told them that if they ever had that guest on again I'd turn off the show. The producer responded and said "yeah I know what you mean".
Does it really matter if you leave the bench? Like guys in baseball go down the tunnel to blow up all the time, and some do it in the dugout. Like who cares whether or not he does it down the tunnel? If he blows up and trashes his stick on the bench and hurts someone, everyone would be yelling at him and saying to go do it down the tunnel
Byest time of year: 1) Christmas time, 2) Long weekends, 3) Halloween. The only thing that's mattering to me here is time off work, and I get the most time off work during Christmas time.
I'm not a bruins fan nor a leafs fan.. but I love sdpn... and find it very amusing how they would build the leafs to be more like Boston- I bet bruins fans love that
The penalty shot declined option is interesting. I actually thought you we're allowed to decline a penalty shot in the NHL, but it looks like I was wrong. The USA hockey rule book, which governs almost all youth hockey in the United States does allow for this option to take a minor penalty instead (rule 406), but the NHL rulebook doesn't seem to allow this and I don't understand why.
Players get frustrated and break sticks. It's better to walk away and break your stick, so no one gets hit with the stick by accident. I don't know how anybody who watches the Leafs play on a regular basis can question Marners effort or skill. Marner is not the problem. I don't listen to this podcast often, but when I do there's usually a lot of overreacting. Safe to say you guys didn't surprise me this time.
At 1:00:40, Adam says that "no less than 5 GM's" said they'd immediately hire Dubas if Toronto fired him. Can someone find me where this has ever been said? I'm interested in reading it. I mean, surely he didn't pull it out his ass... bu how come NO ONE is talking about this?
I’m a Bostonian (yes I actually grew up IN THE CITY….6 miles from The Garden/Fleetcenter in fact) but I’ve lived in North Carolina for 14 years thanks to my military service and my stupidity for buying a house here after I was medically discharged quite a few years ago however I AM STILL A DIEHARD B’s FANATIC!! I would HAPPILY TRADE TEFLON DON SWEENEY, who is FAR AND AWAY THE WORST GM IN HOCKEY….for Kyle Dubas!!!! Sound good?
2 best lines...
"Do the Bruins draft assholes or do the Bruins breed them?"
"Look at this miniature shithead, and he's blossomed info a full grown, adult shithead."
Hilarious 😂
Somebody else tweeted this (sorry do not remember who), but it was perfect. "Marner has two giveaways that leads to Ducks goals. As a result, Nylander has been demoted to fourth line" 🤣
Steve banging on the table saying “SHAVE YOUR BALLS” made my day 😂
And then he immediately starts giggling like a kid who knew he did something bad haha
Steve's being at peace makes me picture him as Lt. Dan thanking Forrest. "I never thanked you for losing to the Ducks." Then he jumps into the lake and swims.
"But you ain't got no team, Lieutenant Dangle."
1@@cdubsoptional7849 , if you think about it, the LFRs are pretty much just like Lt. Dangle yelling at the Hockey Gods, on a mast, during a hurricane.
"You''ll never sink our fanaticism! You call this a Game 7 collapse?!!?"
Lol I can totally see it!
That's gold bro!!! 🤣
loooooool
The part on Bunting was spot on - when he basically got face washed by every Duck on the ice and not one Leaf showed up.
If you’re Bunting, why care? Why put yourself on the line if guys don’t play for each other.
To think about it, when was the last time a Leaf retaliated to fight a opponent who wronged one of their team mates?
Jesse is spot on about Marner's temper tantrum.
Pay him another 11M..... that'll teach him a lesson 👌🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dannymoxley-towns8541 🤣🤣🤣 Real taskmasters over in leafland huh? Saying they have no grit or 🔥. But when your coddled the whole way through what do you expect eh?
An example of conflict resolution during a hockey game, and one that stands out immediately as a Sens fan, is the 2017 playoffs when Karlsson yelled at Brassard on the bench in Game 2 of the 1st round vs Boston. Brassard had just made a bad play not getting back leading to a goal and #65 just had at him. But then the 3rd period came and it was Karlsson setting Brassard up for the game tying goal and Brass jumped into EK's arms. That team had quite a strong leadership group with Karl, Anderson, Methot, Phaneuf, Ryan, and Turris, plus Kelly and Neil around but not playing. That strength and togetherness is a big part of why they came so close to the SCF.
I truly believe if they didn't make the Duchene trade and fired the couch alittle sooner they would have been okay. Before that trade they had a really solid record and that team was really solid. Boucher did the same thing in Tampa. First year conference finals. Next year miss the playoffs he was a one trick pony. Hoping this Sens core will bring us back to the promise land by next season
@@Smolder09 Nah, the Hoffman situation would have still played out, that's what ultimately triggered the decision to just blow it all up I imagine
that’s what a true brotherhood of a hockey team is like. your leaders keep you in line and will absolutely give it to you if you do something stupid or make a costly play. but if you can take it and work hard to just keep going and do even better when you get out there, that right there is what a true team does. you clash with your brothers, but you celebrate and rejoice with your brothers
*coming from someone who played hockey from a young age til I was 19. so i’m not just speaking sh*t out my ass lol*
Guys, the reason Marner went to the back to break his stick was because he wasn't sure he'd be able to break it....
This
I'm dying 😅
This is true. Last year, on Oct 23 vs the Pens he tried to break a stick on the bench and failed.
I couldn’t believe it and felt the second-hand embarrassment.
Brutal
Jesus fuckin A lmaoooo
A lot of the changes Steve talks about adding to the team reminds me exactly like how the 06-07 Sens were built. They had the high end talent in Heatley, Spezza, and Alfredsson, but Alfie was a nasty mean competitor and a great leader. Fisher hit, Neil hit, Phillips was one of the best shutdown D-men, Volchenkov laid massive hits and blocked everything. Kelly and Vermette were elite 3rd liners and were monsters on the PK. And they still had 3 good puck movers on the back end in Redden, Corvo, and Preissing. That team started 17-18-1 but finished the year 31-7-8. This Leafs team has Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander, but they could sure use guys like Phillips, Volchenkov, Fisher, and Neil - all guys that would stand up for each other.
"They really hit on Ilya Samsonov"
Caps fans waiting for the train to inevitably come off the rails 👀
Ah Adam. Every metric that measures a good team suggests the devils are legit monsters this year.
apparently not the "sell tickets" metric though. which apparently matters these days. who knew
@@benz2873 I mean it does very much matter just not in this context
Adam hasn't seen a good defense, so he doesn't know it's important
Ah, but Adam still believes in this core. And skill. I lost it already too, AND I'M FINNISH Leaf's fan because I love Steve, Jesse. And Adam too but with an Asterix. Haha joking that last part
@@benz2873 Icing a garbage team for a decade will do that.
19:30 start of hockey talk
A hero among mortals
Tip of the hat!
geeze thanks fir that
It's also in the description.
Mitch Marner deserved to get called out. I stand with Sheldon
Gio mightve been the most effective voice at that moment. A Player his age, with his pedegree, success and years in the league give him instant credibility with other players.
Adam, the Leafs had the guy you want who is tough and can score...Mason Marchment!
Us Stars fans are happy at that Maple Leafs failure right now
Obviously the Ducks arent good but to say they have no talent...Zegras, Terry, Mactavish?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The whole leafs talk about this hypothetical player who’s mean and skilled lol they are perfectly describing mason marchmeny
Marchment, Hyman, Kadri, Lybushkin…
Tell me you need Evander Kane without telling me you need Evander Kane.
Christ, this atmosphere would turn Kane into a 20-year-old overnight.
I've been waiting all day for this.
Kane and Hyman were the missing pieces for the Oilers. Brought a new dimension of grit that Oilers top 6 was missing. Leafs need to find a way to add that dimension quickly.
Tom Wilson
Can't trade Marner for 2 players if you have 50 contracts.
Oh, I’m sure they can find someone else to get rid of.
"A break is a break away from your family." Adam is a wise man. :-)
Been waiting all day for this one.
Crazy how little Adam knows about hockey outside the leafs
Not really. He wakes up at 4 in the morning. He barely watches leaf games so don't expect him to watch other teams
He’s clueless
24:00 okay but Cody Ceci is actually performing excellently with Edmonton. Maybe he found his game with them and didn't with the Leafs, but if his stats were good then and he's good now .... then likely it was something about the Leafs that was the issue
The Leafs whole blue line could use improvements, just like they did before. Trade away a 10 million dollar contract and at least start on building towards it. Getting an actual shut down pair would help build a culture this team is lacking.
Cody was bad in Toronto it maybe wasn't 100% on him and could have been the structure but he was not it in the slightest
Steve carries this podcast. 100% on point with the issue starting at the top with Shanahan
here's a question: why does keefe hate building line chemistry? It's hard to get in tune with your linemates when the lines are being thrown in the blender every single game
22-23 is Babcock's last year and Keefe only got a 2 year extension. Writing's on the wall.
Also, Habs had 3 coaches on the payroll last year. Julien, Ducharme and St.Louis.
Edit: Look up Barry Trotz' hockey reference picture and tell me that's a coach that wouldn't get 110% out of the Leafs.
Tortz was the pick in the offseason
The habs were put against the wall. Ducharme was unusable. Keefe isn't great but it's not a Ducharme situation yet.
I know they have said that Trotz doesn't want to coach right now, but he also stated he would only want to coach an original 6 team. So if they Leafs made him an offer, i bet he would at least sleep on it instead of saying no outright.
@@neptunepriest I'd argue Keefe is unusable in TOR atm. 5 years with the same group and he drops a beaut; "the team is looking for itself". That's a massive red flag.
@@RandomPlaceHolderName Keefe has only been here for 3yrs ...
"Patrick Stefan you should be ashamed of yourself!"
NO SLEEP GANG
Jesse is the only one without the Blue goggles on lol
intro music refused to stop 😂😂😂
Finally lol
Right? Love the show, not the late posts
It's quite clear Adam hasn't watched the Devils this year at all. I don't think we'll win the Metro but this has been a really positive start especially after starting 0-2 and the fans calling to fire Ruff.
Don't chirp Adam when you don't even know what division New Jersey is in 😂
@@devilsarebeastly lol good to see he learned how to use the edit button. It did say Atlantic. Cheers.
Ill be so happy to make the playoffs, thats step 1 and go from there, I believe we can do that this year!
@@derekgray9774 tell us you suck at chirping without telling us you suck.
I’ve said it every leaf game so far this year and it keeps happening… the leafs take too many penalties and Justin Holl turns the puck over in his own end WAY too much
Didn’t have time to carve a pumpkin for my son so I pasted the last 4 results on it. Fans were terrified.
Another thing I found curious about the Leafs game against the Jets. When Robertson, Samsonov, and Sandin were smashed, the team went nuts and guys jumped in to have their backs, but when Marner got his face smashed off the boards, crickets. He was then yelling at the refs after every shift and it didn't look like anyone said anything to him. Might be nothing there, but it makes me wonder why the team didn't have his back on the ice.
That is a very interesting point. I wonder if between the big 4 making money, he's the one shouldering most of the blame for the team's inability to go out and leverage cap space (because we don't have any). Matthews has proven his value, JT proved it before in his early years. Yes you're paying a premium for him technically but that's what free agency does. Then Nylander has the most tradable contract, but it is because he's also the most reasonable in value today.
So I wonder if you're on to something, that Marner holding out to get near Matthews money, has the team at odds with him in ways. The sad thing is, Marner drives any line he's put on so it's not like he's not worth the money. Unfortunate situation for all sides.
People keep saying the jets room is bad but I feel like that’s the opposite
“What player do we need specifically”
Me an oilers fan: cackles on zach hyman
Y'all remember when Ovi yelled at Samsonov after a playoff loss because he messed up and played the puck and it directly led to the ge winning goal against? The Toronto Maple Leafs leadership would NEVER do that to their teammates. That's a problem.
Execute order 66 on the Leafs
Oilers Ceci > Leafs Ceci
If the Leafs lose to the Flyers the fans prolly gonna *leggo their Eggo.*
As an Ohio native, if Steve thinks the Leafs look like the worst team in the league, I'll invite him to tune into a Jackets game. Whoa boy are they dreadful. Imagine if every Leafs' loss was by 3 or more goals...
7 year old me loved that stupid Hey Hey Hockeytown song.
Jesse's straight wrong about the Kings. If you've watched the two of them play, it's obvious that Quick is playing much better than Cal
"sports interatction Canadas sports book" "Available in Ontario only" ........ >.
The SDP is about to enter its AFTV era 😆. Dangle alternating between channeling his Lee Judges and Claude LOL
Wouldn’t this be the biggest “leafs” year and thing to win the cup after they get talked about like this 😂.
(I don’t think they will) just be a Leafs thing to do.
Great pod! ❤
Adam you are incorrect about the '97 Red Wings situation. It was after Game 4 in Round 1 vs St. Louis. They had been shutout in that game and The Captain addressed the room saying everyone including himself has to play better if they are going to win anything. And they did.
Waiting all day :)
Adam is making the exact point I made in the LFR comments. There is no internal culture setter for the whole team. Its the same problem in Vancouver. John Tavares and Bo Horvat are just too nice. Good player does not equal good leader.
Yes. Even tho Tavares has been the Leafs best player he’s still not bringing enough. He could be so much better and he may never reach that potential.
Waited all day for this! Popcorn time!
It's a false peace.
It's not over.
You have not begun to know the true meaning of despair.
Steve is right. This team has been a field of Lillies that other teams run through with a ride on mower. Time to drop some balls and turn this situation around. PLAY WITH HEART AND SOME GRIT !!! NO ONE HITS ANYONE ANYMORE!!! Brutal !!!!!
Quickest I've ever clicked on a show
Sheldon Keefe has lost the room after he went back to Marner after benching him, what a spineless move.
They keep saying the Leafs are below .500, they are 4-4-2 which is NHL .500 (.500 with OT points bailing you)
I think everyone is over-analyzing Marners stick break, its not that complicated. Player mad, breaks stick, the end.
Adam is totally right about the same rules from coach applying for all players. Absolutely correct!
Shoutout Producer Drew. Go Avs
Adam really needs to get on the treadmill
Imagine just not paying 2 thoughts to adams rant against Bettman. I see you wylde. Keep going bro
Watching this as a wings fan wearing an old wings sweater as I watch. I love that people compare team to late 1990’s / early 2000’s Detroit teams to explain how champions play
LGRW!
Well as much as people get off on Messier as a leader and all that jazz, Yzerman was by far and away the better captain. 95 to 09 (you could even stretch it to 2013 if you wanted) were absolutely amazing times to be a red wings fan.
PREACH!
42:30 Jessie is so right because in a team sport that happens all the time
When i used to play basketball and my teammate did something dumb I'd all say something especially if i had to bail it out
If my teammate lazily threw the ball into traffic and i had to battle in order to keep it from being a turnover in a game we're losing by double digits they're getting yelled at 100000% of the time no matter what and id expect them to do the same
It'd be worse if i didn't tbh
The right answer is
4- Halloween
3- Christmas (it’s just a box store scam holiday)
2- Thanksgiving (non commercial Xmas)
1- the summer trilogy.
Waitin all day for Monday night lol
Anyone notice Steve trying to put a hat on over his headphones 😂
3) Christmas 2) Long Weekend 1) Halloween 100%
I really enjoyed the long conversation about the team. It was a nice group therapy session. 🙃
I always thought hard liquors made EVERYONE get heartburn tbh.
Hopefully someone will take the time to read this...
I know that the Oilers are not perfect and I am not saying they are, but I do believe they display what you guys are discussing. Most of their lines have IDENTITY. Of course, you should not overlook analytics, but every line has to have a purpose and cohesion, otherwise they will be exploited by the opponent.
For example:
Hyman (Dog, Big, Forechecker) - McD (God) - RNH (Large, Experienced Playmaker) ... Top Tier Skill Line
Kane (Pain in the Ass, Strong in the corners, Goalscorer) - Drai (Playmaker, Goal Scorer) - Yamo (Annoying, Quick, Strong on puck, Forechecker) ...Skill + Size line
Foegle (Large, Strong in Corners, Forechecker) - McLeod (Young, Fast, Playmaker [mini-McD]) - Puljujärvi (Big, Fast, Strong) ... Forechecking / Tire you out line
Holloway (goal scorer, young, up and coming, getting his feet wet) - Ryan (experience, smart, distributor) - Shore (forechecker) ... 4th line / workhorse line.
AGAIN, not saying they're perfect and obviously I am an Oilers fan, so I am biased, but Jay Woodcroft talks about this all the time. He believes each piece is a component that results in the lines overall success. Each piece brings something different and they all bring out each others best. Each player has a ROLE and they know what it is.
Now, I am young, and I firmly believe in analytics. However, I have said it before and I'll say it again, Just because a team looks good on PAPER doesn't mean they will work. On paper doesn't show you a players work ethic / effort level, chemistry or grit. I know people hate "grit" but like Jay Woodcroft also says, "we may have different opinions of what physicality or "grit" is. It isn't just hitting or fighting. It is going to hard areas of the ice, winning battles and being difficult to play against".
I hope for Steve's Mental Health they turn this around
You can fix a lot trading marner
As soon as Steve said, "A genuine dislike of the rest of humanity. Doesn't need to be huge." my brain supplied an old name. Tie Domi.
Can we all agree that the Leafs are 4-4-2 and not 4-5-1? Steve's been saying it for days
You want a 2nd line winger for Kerfoot, the utility. How about sending Kerfoot to Seattle for McCann 😂
1 - Christmas (or whatever holiday you celebrate)
2 - The long weekends (for the same reasons Adam said)
3 - Halloween
Christmas and the long weekends can be interchangeable depending on what family you're fortunate enough to spend them with
In northern Europe you actually get days of for christmas so I kinda get the NA take, not sure how it works in Canada tho
@@some1fromfin Christmas Day and January first are statutory holidays, and most provinces give boxing day off as well. Many places will close early on Christmas Eve anyway.
Do you get more days? I'm fascinated to know if there's much of a difference.
@@bradleymyrick2315 well, there are official holidays 25.12 26.12 and 1.1 and everything closes earlier 24.12 and 31.12 If you aren't working in retail those are days everyone takes off anyway because we get more holidays than most countries and workplaces often make these longer weekends by planning office wide extra off days there.
Players need to check their egos at the locker room door. Thinking team over self is the ONLY way to win.
Want to see how a dressing room operates? there's a clip on You Tube of the recent Chicago-Minnesota game. Kane is knocked down flat from behind. Max Domi REALLY settles the score. For his efforts, Domi gets a thunderous standing ovation from the Chicago fans. For what is suppose to be a bad team, they have only lost one in regulation in their last seven.
It's always been, what player making 800k - 1.3 mil is the answer to all our problems lol. The boys saying it how it is in this one
Trade out Marner. That would be a good 1st step. It's not his play, it's his attitude. Otherwise a Scheifele/Wheeler type scenario is brewing. However, what does his absence do to Matthews? I want to know if Austin is okay with Marner's behaviour and attitude. Now I know why Holl is still around. He's best buds with Marner. Getting Keefe to grow a spine would be another good move.
The Leafs lost their window. It ain't happening. Matthews is more preoccupied with his fashion than play on the ice
Please make 39:40 a sound bite on watch a leafs game with Steve dangle
0.5 speed 11:00-12:00 funniest thing I have heard ever.
Years ago I listened to Mark Spector on Prime Time Sports. It's the only time I emailed a show and told them that if they ever had that guest on again I'd turn off the show. The producer responded and said "yeah I know what you mean".
Does it really matter if you leave the bench? Like guys in baseball go down the tunnel to blow up all the time, and some do it in the dugout. Like who cares whether or not he does it down the tunnel? If he blows up and trashes his stick on the bench and hurts someone, everyone would be yelling at him and saying to go do it down the tunnel
Baseball also has a different culture and mindset than hockey so the comparison does not really work
Hey Evgeny Svechnikov has as many goals as Auston Matthews this year
Byest time of year: 1) Christmas time, 2) Long weekends, 3) Halloween.
The only thing that's mattering to me here is time off work, and I get the most time off work during Christmas time.
Being a Habs fan I know the player but leafs need a arber xhekaj. Willing to fight and motivated due to circumstance
Great show guys. I hope Mitch is a scratch tonight. But I doubt it.
I'm so sick of these god damn betting ads they are EVERYWHERE
I'll take the under on that.
Same here
Max Domi for Kerfoot would be a good start. Put Domi on line with Matthew's and Marner
Clearly these guys have never worked in retail during the Christmas season, They wouldn't be praising it so much if they did lol
I'm not a bruins fan nor a leafs fan.. but I love sdpn... and find it very amusing how they would build the leafs to be more like Boston- I bet bruins fans love that
The penalty shot declined option is interesting. I actually thought you we're allowed to decline a penalty shot in the NHL, but it looks like I was wrong. The USA hockey rule book, which governs almost all youth hockey in the United States does allow for this option to take a minor penalty instead (rule 406), but the NHL rulebook doesn't seem to allow this and I don't understand why.
The trade has been Willy for Tom Wilson obviously
You take that Durzi, Byfield, Roy deal in a heartbeat even if it includes a pick or two. 1 protected first or staggered seconds.
Steve no worries about Cam Atkinson. He is still injured and has not played all season.
Players get frustrated and break sticks. It's better to walk away and break your stick, so no one gets hit with the stick by accident. I don't know how anybody who watches the Leafs play on a regular basis can question Marners effort or skill. Marner is not the problem. I don't listen to this podcast often, but when I do there's usually a lot of overreacting. Safe to say you guys didn't surprise me this time.
At 1:00:40, Adam says that "no less than 5 GM's" said they'd immediately hire Dubas if Toronto fired him. Can someone find me where this has ever been said?
I'm interested in reading it. I mean, surely he didn't pull it out his ass... bu how come NO ONE is talking about this?
I’m a Bostonian (yes I actually grew up IN THE CITY….6 miles from The Garden/Fleetcenter in fact) but I’ve lived in North Carolina for 14 years thanks to my military service and my stupidity for buying a house here after I was medically discharged quite a few years ago however I AM STILL A DIEHARD B’s FANATIC!! I would HAPPILY TRADE TEFLON DON SWEENEY, who is FAR AND AWAY THE WORST GM IN HOCKEY….for Kyle Dubas!!!! Sound good?
Watching this late but as a Habs fan I love that Steve and Leafs Nation have circled back to calling for “Truculence and Testosterone” 😂🤡