KTM 1290 Super Adventure S or Triumph Tiger 1200 GT?
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A direct head-to-head comparison of a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S and Triumph Tiger 1200 GT.
All views are my own and are based on my personal experiences with these motorcycles.
In the end of the day, use this video just as an indication as we’ve all got different preferences, and you should test these yourself before purchasing.
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Good film but your conclusion seems mainly based on which bike makes the best hooligan ride. I think we all know that's going to be the KTM without riding either. But if that's what a rider is looking for surely there are a dozen super-nakeds that would do this job better. Riders in this segment are more focused on long-distance comfort, reliability, speed and safe-handling. The biggest difference between these two bikes is the chain v shaft drive and for me that means there would be only one choice: the Triumph.
I fully agree with your comment. For long touring trips Tiger here is a stronger option.
My conclusion is that most riders would appreciate more what Tiger 1200 provides while my personal and very emotional choice (they're always emotional, aren't they?) would indeed be KTM - in the R variant in fact which is very different to the S. I don't know how Tiger does in terms of reliability. That's also one of the reasons why I don't sum the points but separate those areas so that one can focus on what's important for them the most. I hope this explains it. Cheers!
The KTM offers 11 different seats. You'll definitely find a very comfortable one if you do not like the original. As far as reliability between the two, the KTM is very reliable! I own a 1290 Super Adventure S. It's never let me down! And It's just not a hooligan bike either, but rather a wonderful touring machine. I've heard so many things about the engine on the 1290, the LC 8 engine. it's regarded as one of the greatest engines ever put into motorcycle frame. I guarantee you if you rode this bike, you would not enjoy getting on the tiger afterwards.
The MAIN trouble with KTM is RELIABILITY. Mostly everything you said in this video is true, great video!!! BUT...
I own a KTM 1290 SAS 2021 and I'm selling it to buy an Tiger 1200 GT Explorer 2023. About the breaks I have to say that your appreciation, your feeling when brake is not entirely right about the KTM: you have to squeeze the handle for the bike to actually slows down and it's so smooth and easy with the Tiger that, at least for me, the last is the winner by FAR. The anti dive system is not that good and barely mitigates de diving "trouble" that have any non telelever based dampening system motorcycle. AND, after the 15k km maintenance, the break system of the KTM breaks entirely (pun intended 😋): air in the system, poor breaking, and now, somehow, a bent front disk without even enjoy it after the maintenance. The bike have 20k km so far and: both front dampers spat oil after one week of buying it (0 km, brand new). The valves cap seal leak oil too. They have to change all the rear cables and the preload unit for the rear damper because the preload electronic adjustment was getting disabled when starting the bike. At the end KTM Austria discovers that a low voltage cause this fault so they replaced the gel battery for a Li one (the one that use the S Duke 1290 RR if I don't recall it wrong), problem solved. But the craziest trouble with this bike IS that the QuickShifter+ drops from 3º to neutral directly when you try to use motor breaking with the second gear. And I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting something else, but... I bought it in 06/2022 and the bike has been at the workshop at least half of the year and a half that I own it. So disappointed...
Now, with the Tiger I’m very happy so far. Mechanics apart, even ergonomics are way better. The only think I miss is the KTM’s anti dive that was not that bad after all: the Tiger dives a lot more when you break. Even in sport mode.
In everything else the Tiger is far superior
👍Just in time for my Saturday morning Coffee. Now I know this will be good day despite the forecast 😁
Don't forget that really odd tiger behavior when you let the clutch out from a standstill...it will automatically apply throttle which was kinda surprising when I did my Triumph test ride. And somehow I still stalled the bike when taking off from a stoplight. You cannot beat the comfort of the Tiger also it has better passenger ergonomics . Cheers!
I had no idea that it applied throttle when I did a test ride a few weeks back, but now I understand why it felt weird and overly eager to get away! 😂
That's a good hint - thanks for mentioning it. I also think that it's one of 2 most comfortable motorcycles in the segment. May just as well be the best.
San Diego CA, I would take either. Both are excellent.
Very objective review,
Thanks for your work.
It's my pleasure. I'm glad that you enjoyed watching. Cheers!
Nice review. Every new bike rides anywhere between decent and great. Reliability is where it is for a adventure bike. Not having to stop anywhere because you need repairs done...that is worth money and piece of mind. I hope you will be able to do this. Cost of ownership etc. Anyway I enjoy your reviews
hi! great video!! Could I know what windscreen you use on KTM? Standard windscreen with a smoke sticker? wrs sport? Thank you :)
Hi, thanks. I believe that the screen was simply a KTM short screen for 1290 Super Adventure. It's there on the R variant as standard. Perhaps this one has indeed been also tinted. Cheers! :)
Pity you never compare these long run bikes in duo as well as with loading equipments. Most often it is in this typical format most of the owners ride them.
Thanks for the feedback! With equipment like extra luggage I can't do it indeed but then it would still be possibly different to all of use depending on what luggage I'd use and how much stuff I'd put inside. So I tend to believe that using them the way they are straight from the factory then allows for the most dependable comparison. I personally never rode with side panniers on my personal motorcycles actually. Just a top case - mostly empty and just to later put my helmet into it.
The tiger 1200 is a perfect beginner's bike. Im loving it. 👍
How do you come to that conclusion? It’s a big bike. Most novices would come unstuck with the power and the weight.
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I am 6'4 and it's easy for me. So, yes. It's a good beginner's bike. I would also recommend the Hayabusa.
Wait, but why a Hayabusa? I’m not so sure about the big Tiger but only because of its weight and that it’s placed high. If one doesn’t know how to handle that weight in a variety of situations, they may go down quickly and hurt themselves. Especially that Tiger 1200 likes to stall for no reason.
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C mode is beginner's friendly in Hayabusa and the seat height. I have tried it. Triumph is beginner's friendly for the people who are taller.
I would recommend these bikes for mature people who want to start on a big bike.
I’ve got a KTM SDR so went with the Triumph for touring 😎🍻
At least there's some variety in the garage. Nice one by the way!
I think KTM is the best, If I get tired of cleaning chain I'll buy a GS, not a Triumph!
There's always an automatic lubricating device that can be installed and keep the chain lubricated and cleaner. The surroundings are dirtier then though.
This thorough independent review can be complementary to the Championship event held by "Great Egret". Of course, in the end it's a matter of personal preferences, but the fact that KTM won the comparison of the two for the second time has certainly tipped the scale in one's favor.
I admit I had to do some search regarding what you wrote and if I'm correct, then the quoted fragment is a name of a TH-camr. Again - if I searched correctly, then he took the previous Triumph Tiger 1200 into consideration. That's quite a different motorbike in fact but it's still interesting to learn about te similarities in conclusions even if they're about different generation of motorcycles. Cheers!
@@VToldsMotoShow you are right, the direct link was not possible to post though but that is not necessarily a bad thing 'cause the two channels are independent infotainment sources. ;) For those who choose a bike to keep, no information is redundant
Chain drive is never an issue if you fit a scottoiler from the start.
Yes and no as you still need to remember to watch the fluid reservoir once in a while, there's even more mess in there and so it requires cleaning if you want the bike nice and shiny for a trip to a local night club. But definitely it's a solution that I'd recommend to anyone with a chain-propelled motorcycle. I've had one of such devices myself on a V-Strom 1000 and it worked perfectly except for the mentioned annoyances.
The rust on the triumph would be a back off alarm.
Do you have a bike in this category?
Since 2009.
Ktm short warranty says a lot. 12m for the R version is pathetic.
Got a 2year and another 2yrs on top for free so I have a 4 yr warranty on mine which I bought back in July. Though mine is on an S.
My SAS came also with a 4 yrs. Warranty! Got my bike 2 weeks ago and i'm more then happy🎉
PNW, WA. Die Müsi spielt in Österreich.
Both great bikes, but living on the Dolomites, I have the KTM. Simply the best adventure bike for my roads.
Nice bikes, still have a lot to learn from GS...
Right, there are areas where others should attempt to catch up. And the new GS is rght behind the corner being unveiled tomorrow of the day after. Cool!
VTOLD should join Polish gymnastics Olympic team on the horse. New routine doing flips over KTM
One is reliable one is not 😉
I don't know about that ;)
Ktm ❤
Ktm all the way
It surely has its advantages. But then so does Tiger in other spots.
KTM sells the most motorized two-wheelers in Europe. The reason: they are unreliable, have a high depreciation rate, they are too expensive, they look like shit and they don't ride well. Sounds logical? 🥱