I like that there is a sense of class fantasy presevation. I was turned off of poe 1 due to actually not liking the idea of "unlimited" customization. I like whe active skills remain thematic and not just whatever is best for the build I'm pursuing .
My biggest thing with PoE and ultimately why I didn't stick to it, is that PoE feels extremely overwhelming as a casual ARPG fan. It's like someone picking up Warframe for the 1st time and playing on someone else's account who's currently running steel path. I'm gonna give PoE 2 a shot cause it looks really fun. I'm just hoping it's more accessible to newer players.
GGG has made a big effort to make it more accessible. That's why there are the character archetypes, so you're not overwhelmed by 100+ skills to choose from. You're shown the ~20 available to quarterstaves. I think they're going to be introducing league mechanics gradually as well with things like the trials showing up in the campaign.
@ yeah seeing how everything is broken up made me already feel a lot better about getting into PoE 2. When I tried PoE 1 it was probably about 3-4 years ago now and every system I interacted with felt like a bombardment of information. So far, it seems way better and much more digestible which makes me excited to give it an actual go this time around.
@@TenkieiI wouldn’t say it’s that accessible, looking at the endgame it’s too many systems each with their own skill trees locked behind pinnacle bosses(very hard bosses) all of which have their own crafting systems and things roll use crafting mats on. It is indeed overwhelming already.
I mean, I started playing PoE around the time deli league launched. I didn't understand anything. Now I understand most of the basic things and some more advanced things. The overwhelming feeling is your enemy. Just try to have fun in the game. That's why it's made in the first place
@@captaintoet1983 yeah, that’s why I’m going to just try and stick it out on PoE 2, I’m really interested in some of the new stuff like chronomancer, Infernalist, Mercenary. The way they presented endgame stuff felt a lot better on how these activities work and what they give. Vs me just loading the game with no idea on anything at all and playing solo
I'm still gonna start Merc day one, it's just such a cool class and I think it will be amazing with WASD. But since I saw the Chronomancer, I've been thinking of running a Chronomancer Crossbow build
The merc looks very cool. I'm hoping PoE2 has good controller support because it looks like the sort of game that should be super cozy with a controller.
Im leaning towards one of these in order 1.Witch hunter 2.Blood mage 3.Chronomancer 4.Infernalist I love the playstyle of the gun weapon in hades. The witch hunter looks to have a very similar playstyle. The blood mages sustain looks to be very helpful. But it's probably going to be super gear dependant, and might struggle against bosses. The chromomancer looks super fun, but it's probably going to have a high skill requirement. Probably not the best canidate for a 1st character. Demon form on the infernalist looks really fun, but it's probably going to a squishy ascendancy.
Flicker Invoker looks like it's going to be neat. One big advantage of PoE2's design is it should be easier to get these archetypes up and running during the campaign because they've really focused on synergies between the different skills available to each weapon.
I'm tempted with blood witch, lots of health stacking and crit scaling potential, if lightning tendrils is still in the game and functions the same way i want to see if i can make a 1 button build. Obviously I'll roll with a couple of "cast when shocked" or "cast when dodge rolling" if these are a thing also
Witch Hunter seems really strong for group play depending on how his max health damage works. I'll probably either try that or a witch as my second character. My first has to be monk.
Hey im new player, i dont understand a thing, so skills are bound to a weapon and not to a character? I mean i can have minions like a witch but using a warrior? Or using a witch and go with mace? And whats the point to do that?
Hey Tenk one question. Do you think somehting like POB will still be needed ? I despise it and the idea that i have to learn a really hard(for me) program to play a game
Not Ten but I will say this, unless GGG include a fairly comprehensive breakdown of our characters with stats laid out, more so than they are in PoE 1, I suspect it will still be an incredibly helpful tool. It gives SO much information that the game simply doesn’t have a screen to show you, and unless PoE 2 includes said screen, I can’t imagine people letting go of it. However, FWIW, there will be a period of time where PoB is being updated to PoE 2 where nobody will have it, I assume. Once it launches in full, I’m sure a ton of people will create videos breaking down the features. If you’re playing at that point, hopping in and just messing around might make you feel more comfortable learning. It’s intimidating.
I think you're going to be able to play PoE2 without PoB more easily, especially during the early access. I remember one of the reasons GGG hired OpenARL (the dev behind PoB), was to make better tooltips for PoE2. But I also think inevitably, yes 10 years into PoE2 we'll be back to a point where PoB feels mandatory. Because there are going to be ways to use PoB to optimize, tracking breakpoints and seeing the impact of upgrades which doesn't display in game because it would be overwhelming, or simulating the impact of things like AoE radius changes (which a tooltip can't do). As more players do this, GGG will need to balance around the fact that a significant portion of players optimize using PoB, thus making it more important to use PoB to optimize your build. ----- With that said, I think going into PoE2 is a good opportunity to learn PoB, because it's probably going to be a lot simpler at the start, so you can get comfortable with basic things like using it to import your character and plan your resistances when upgrading gear, then slowly learn more as you progress and play more builds.
@@Tenkiei it’s a good point yes. maybe it’s indeed the time now when things are still simple . I was thinking same thing with crafting. Get to know it know that seems way way easier and simple
It'll still be useful, but you can respec the passive tree which is nice. I don't know if I would ever say it feels mandatory, but I can see something like that for the more 'hardcore' or 'minmax' among us.
While dead eye is a tough sell, I think the power of a small thing in Poe1 as 1 ekstra projektile is very easily overlooked here in POE2. The impact of having multiple projektile support on only 1 skill, in a game where you are encouraged to use different skills, is not recognized because we are so much in the mindset of a 1 or 2 skill use playstyle from poe1. 1 ekstra projectile on all skills, is quite interesting and powerful if you actually use a lot of different projectile skills. Compared to multiple projectiles it is 1/2 of the power of a support gem on every skill. But it ofcause comes down to if this multiple skill use playstyle does hold up or if we are ending up doing a 1 skill build anyway, because in that last case it is for sure not very interesting.
I think deadeye is going to be very powerful (and bows in general look strong). I think a lot more things can shotgun too so +1 proj without a damage penalty is really good... But it feels pretty boring to see an ascendancy that's the same as PoE1 when all the other classes got so many different and interesting options.
It feels like a sleeper ascension. It doesn't look that attractive, but then you realize how good it can be. It's not the same shiny as the others, as has been said.
not a criticism, so much as a general reminder. While certain ascendancies/classes definitly lean towards certain weapons/skills it sounds like NO ascendancy has weapon specific abilities, so nothing is stopping you from being big beefy boi with a bow or monk go bonk!
I'm gonna play with my partner, which will main a Witch. I was thinking Monk would be nice, however would the better play be to go Mercenary, because it's Str/Dex and Witch is Int. I'm thinking about avoiding the situation where an item drops that's good for both, because Monk is Str/Int. What do you guys think? I like both Merc and Monk, but was leaning into Monk because the idea of a ranged and melee party sounds nicer.
Monk is Dex/Int by archetype. But I wouldn't worry too much about avoiding armor class overlap. The attributes apply more to the Skills available to an archetype by default, you can swap your travel nodes to whatever attribute you want. So if you want to be a witch wearing heavy Str armor, that's fine (provided you use Str skills).
There have been about 3 builds that i've really enjoyed in PoE1 that i was hoping to use in PoE2. Thorns Super-tank and Super-Speed build. I might try to do super-speed with the Chronomancer...that seems like it would be funny.
I used to play path exile one and I know how the skill tree works and I’m very little bit very familiar with path exile so I have a little my work cut out for me on path exiled to
Path of Exile is a Seasonal game, so yes every new league you start over. There is "Standard" and that'll probably be a pretty good place to play long term for the first couple years of PoE2, but over time it'll become bloated by tons of wealth from people who have been there for a long time which makes it much harder for new players.
i always try out poison build to start with, so probably something pathfinder for me (poison prolif) but i guess the crossbow guy has some poison stuff available too
im curious how much skills of other weapons will already be ingame, since i was planning on doing a dagger poison pathfinder myself, but i might have to wait for shadow release to try that.
I feel like GGG has gone out of their way to make most of the ascendancies flexible. You'll probably be limited to attacks or spells on some of them, but aside of that you can use a wide variety of skills and weapons for your endgame build.
I think these games largely benefit from this formula to keep things fresh on league start with new additions/balance. It's hard to explain to people that just don't get it, I suppose. I can see why a casual/new player would dislike it. Think the simplest of the several reasons is that the player trading economy exists and is a large part of the game. No resets would make that not engaging. With the way POE is expected to work, unfortunately, resets are a vital part of the game, and for any arpg's that strive to have a fulfilling/long-lasting endgame. Hope you still enjoy the game though if you decide to play! Looks incredible
No worries! I'm not sure if daggers/swords are going to be in the early access at the start but if they are should be able to, yes. The way dual wielding works in PoE1 - you can mix and match any melee weapons, such as 2 daggers, or dagger and axe so long as the skill is compatible with both. You cannot mix a melee and a ranged weapon, so no wand and sword. It should work the same in PoE2, and any class can use any weapon, some will just be more suited to the archetypes supported by an ascendancy.
So youve been saying that classes «use» specific weapons and abilities… Is that just a reccomendation or class fantasy or is poe 2 diverting hard from the whole any class any skill thing Edit: LOL yea ok just keep watching my bad
Yeah it's just a handy way to introduce things, especially because a lot of new players are going to go with an in-game recommended build based on the class fantasy.
You'd think, but this was still overwhelming because there was such a density of information. I feel like there are a ton of things you can find if you freeze-frame a specific section that you'd overwise miss just watching through.
I think they're making an effort to make ascendancies more generic. So instead of having a "minion ascendancy" you have something like the hellhound on Infernalist who makes you tankier and lets you play an ignite minion build.
I wonder if you can build any other melee build with warrior as in other weapon / skills, I mean if there is any? or is it slams + maces thats it anyone knows?
I feel like people are so dead-set in how certain characters are played. This is path of exile, there's no one way to play a character... for instance; the mercenary doesn't need to use a crossbow.. they can be 100% melee.
I think it's less that people are dead set on characters being played a certain way, and more that (with so little information) it helps to ground things. Especially because your early game experience (1-45) is very likely to be grounded in the recommended archetype. Can you probably start 100% melee on a mercenary? Yeah. But will most people? No, they're gonna start with crossbows and transition in endgame.
I'm very much in favor of the fact that GGG decided to make the exiles individuals with unique backstories and personalities instead of voiceless soulless dolls for people to play self-insert with.
One of my biggest concerns, not my biggest... but one of the top 3... is that, despite the appearance of a massive variety, there is too much focus. I'm a minion player at my center. I sometimes play other types, and definitely WANT to all the time, I inevitably return to center every league, at least for a time. How many of these ascendancies even mention allies or minions? Just 1? Yet, PoE1 has them mentioned in no less that 3 (Necromancer, Guardian, Champion), maybe include Scion, and one or two others. I get that it isn't finished yet... but, the starting 12 ascendancies don't even focus on them at all, AND there's only 1 (so far). Just makes me really concerned that minions are either not a major concern at all, or so big of a thing that they are holding it off. I'd be very concerned if it was the second actually, as that means it is on the verge of being over-powered. Minions are almost always OP, and that is by accident. In this case, it would mean they are OP on purpose, and they are trying to make sure it isn't TOO over-powered. When that sort of thing happens in games (with other powers, skills, etc), it generally results in a very bad thing.
We've seen less than half the nodes for each ascendancy so it's possible the minion nodes didn't get showcased yet. Minions could also work differently, maybe they inherit more stats from the player so the distinction of "minion" or "allies" isn't needed. This is very much a "wait and see" type deal imo.
@@Tenkiei Right, it's just why it's a concern. Minion builds are as big of a thing as totem builds or slam builds, bigger I think. But an ascendancy that focuses on those was showcased. My main point was that the ascendancies look extremely focused, the classes as well. I mean, they say no matter what class you play, you have tons of options on which weapons and skills to use. Yet, haven't seen any videos, even by non-GGG, with a Mercenary using anything other than a crossbow. I get that it is a new weapon, fun to play with, but why never a sword, mace, bow, even a staff or wand? Is the Merc so focused into XBow that using anything else is underpowered? Of course, they also might only be allowed to use pre-made builds, too. This is why I can't wait to play the game. I want to experiment with so many things!!
Melee looks kinda trash to me tbh.. Ive tried the "slam" archetype in PoE and it is fminearly on.. But moving like a slug can only be fun for so long.. IMO, melee combat "feel" is the only thing D4 does better than PoE. Id have to say Im leaning gemling merc right now.. being able to use any skill without attribute requirements seems like the right move on a first playthru.. either that or Ill stick to pathfinder.. Ive started PoE 1 leagues with exclusively pathfinder going on 3 years so why stop now?
There's going to be different types of melee in PoE2, yes slams are probably slow on the warrior. But the monk looks very fast and agile. Speed wise I expect him to compete with a lot of the ranged builds.
I think the slams look awesome and this is from a barb main on d4. I think the big thing is the damage has to be there with the slow attacks or else it will feel like a waste. Kind of like great sword in monster hunter.
Each of the classes represent a specific character, with their own unique story and background. As you play through the campaign, you'll learn more. For example the warrior, is an apprentice Blacksmith in Ogham, he was taken in at a young age and trained both as a smithy, and a fighter.
The only reason I’m going to give this game a try is because monk. I like Poe but I hate these developers so much. They only care about money in their pocket and wanna make light of console players in their interviews. PoE 1 looked like it belonged on a Dreamcast for 10 plus years on console but they want console money on release now for PoE 2? The gall to sell 370 dollars for a cosmetic pack. Thats Tencent and GGG making sweet love all the way to the bank. Despicable.
"cosmetic pack" is correct - no need to buy anything you don't want. This is a huge, free game (with a possible exception of needing/wanting stash tabs).
That pack also includes every cosmetic, forum title, weapon effect, pet, or anything else from all the packs under it. And as others have said, its all optional unless you want early access.
![[PoE 2] Which CLASS + Ascendancy to Pick? Overview Deep Dive for Path of Exile 2](/img/n.gif)
As a Guildwars 2 player, the idea of playing a Time mage in an aRPG is extremely appealing.
It's cool to see different elements in PoE2 taking inspiration from such a wide variety of games.
I don't like mages, but time spells on a monk would be pimp
I like that there is a sense of class fantasy presevation. I was turned off of poe 1 due to actually not liking the idea of "unlimited" customization. I like whe active skills remain thematic and not just whatever is best for the build I'm pursuing .
Overwhelming? Nope. Warrior all the day. Bonk is life
What you're saying is; you like big bonks and you can't lie :P
This. I’m going Warrior Titan first up to see how high I can crank the 2 handed bonk up.
@@Tenkiei accurate.
Witch all day!!! I am so pumped!!!! MINIONS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!
hes back? the legendary poe content from the goat tenkiei????
Yep, I've been looking forward to PoE 2 for years :D
My biggest thing with PoE and ultimately why I didn't stick to it, is that PoE feels extremely overwhelming as a casual ARPG fan. It's like someone picking up Warframe for the 1st time and playing on someone else's account who's currently running steel path. I'm gonna give PoE 2 a shot cause it looks really fun. I'm just hoping it's more accessible to newer players.
GGG has made a big effort to make it more accessible. That's why there are the character archetypes, so you're not overwhelmed by 100+ skills to choose from. You're shown the ~20 available to quarterstaves. I think they're going to be introducing league mechanics gradually as well with things like the trials showing up in the campaign.
@ yeah seeing how everything is broken up made me already feel a lot better about getting into PoE 2. When I tried PoE 1 it was probably about 3-4 years ago now and every system I interacted with felt like a bombardment of information. So far, it seems way better and much more digestible which makes me excited to give it an actual go this time around.
@@TenkieiI wouldn’t say it’s that accessible, looking at the endgame it’s too many systems each with their own skill trees locked behind pinnacle bosses(very hard bosses) all of which have their own crafting systems and things roll use crafting mats on. It is indeed overwhelming already.
I mean, I started playing PoE around the time deli league launched. I didn't understand anything. Now I understand most of the basic things and some more advanced things. The overwhelming feeling is your enemy. Just try to have fun in the game. That's why it's made in the first place
@@captaintoet1983 yeah, that’s why I’m going to just try and stick it out on PoE 2, I’m really interested in some of the new stuff like chronomancer, Infernalist, Mercenary. The way they presented endgame stuff felt a lot better on how these activities work and what they give. Vs me just loading the game with no idea on anything at all and playing solo
I'm still gonna start Merc day one, it's just such a cool class and I think it will be amazing with WASD. But since I saw the Chronomancer, I've been thinking of running a Chronomancer Crossbow build
The merc looks very cool. I'm hoping PoE2 has good controller support because it looks like the sort of game that should be super cozy with a controller.
Bro I just wanna play the merc because it gives me blackops zombies arcade vibes!!!
@@Tenkiei I'm sure it will since it was developed for consoles simultaneously, but I don't have it in me to leave keyboard and mouse lol
Im leaning towards one of these in order
1.Witch hunter
2.Blood mage
3.Chronomancer
4.Infernalist
I love the playstyle of the gun weapon in hades. The witch hunter looks to have a very similar playstyle.
The blood mages sustain looks to be very helpful. But it's probably going to be super gear dependant, and might struggle against bosses.
The chromomancer looks super fun, but it's probably going to have a high skill requirement. Probably not the best canidate for a 1st character.
Demon form on the infernalist looks really fun, but it's probably going to a squishy ascendancy.
The Monk! Gonna be out here like Donatello on that TMNT arcade game 🕹 working that staff!
im so excited for flicker strike invoker with the elemental expression, or the new mom with instant mana leech
I did a flicker build for the beginning of Necro Settlers, had so much fun. Never even considered Flicker Invoker. Love it
Flicker Invoker looks like it's going to be neat. One big advantage of PoE2's design is it should be easier to get these archetypes up and running during the campaign because they've really focused on synergies between the different skills available to each weapon.
mom? you can make babies in this game or something?
I'm tempted with blood witch, lots of health stacking and crit scaling potential, if lightning tendrils is still in the game and functions the same way i want to see if i can make a 1 button build. Obviously I'll roll with a couple of "cast when shocked" or "cast when dodge rolling" if these are a thing also
From what I remember GGG has said they want 1 button builds to exist, but be suboptimal.
Witch Hunter seems really strong for group play depending on how his max health damage works. I'll probably either try that or a witch as my second character. My first has to be monk.
Yeah that's what I was thinking too, if you remove even 10% of a 6 player boss's health that's huge.
Hey im new player, i dont understand a thing, so skills are bound to a weapon and not to a character? I mean i can have minions like a witch but using a warrior? Or using a witch and go with mace? And whats the point to do that?
Hey Tenk one question. Do you think somehting like POB will still be needed ? I despise it and the idea that i have to learn a really hard(for me) program to play a game
Not Ten but I will say this, unless GGG include a fairly comprehensive breakdown of our characters with stats laid out, more so than they are in PoE 1, I suspect it will still be an incredibly helpful tool. It gives SO much information that the game simply doesn’t have a screen to show you, and unless PoE 2 includes said screen, I can’t imagine people letting go of it.
However, FWIW, there will be a period of time where PoB is being updated to PoE 2 where nobody will have it, I assume. Once it launches in full, I’m sure a ton of people will create videos breaking down the features. If you’re playing at that point, hopping in and just messing around might make you feel more comfortable learning. It’s intimidating.
I think you're going to be able to play PoE2 without PoB more easily, especially during the early access. I remember one of the reasons GGG hired OpenARL (the dev behind PoB), was to make better tooltips for PoE2. But I also think inevitably, yes 10 years into PoE2 we'll be back to a point where PoB feels mandatory.
Because there are going to be ways to use PoB to optimize, tracking breakpoints and seeing the impact of upgrades which doesn't display in game because it would be overwhelming, or simulating the impact of things like AoE radius changes (which a tooltip can't do). As more players do this, GGG will need to balance around the fact that a significant portion of players optimize using PoB, thus making it more important to use PoB to optimize your build.
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With that said, I think going into PoE2 is a good opportunity to learn PoB, because it's probably going to be a lot simpler at the start, so you can get comfortable with basic things like using it to import your character and plan your resistances when upgrading gear, then slowly learn more as you progress and play more builds.
@@Tenkiei it’s a good point yes. maybe it’s indeed the time now when things are still simple . I was thinking same thing with crafting. Get to know it know that seems way way easier and simple
It'll still be useful, but you can respec the passive tree which is nice. I don't know if I would ever say it feels mandatory, but I can see something like that for the more 'hardcore' or 'minmax' among us.
@@Tenkiei Jonathan said today they plan on added in game character builder.
While dead eye is a tough sell, I think the power of a small thing in Poe1 as 1 ekstra projektile is very easily overlooked here in POE2. The impact of having multiple projektile support on only 1 skill, in a game where you are encouraged to use different skills, is not recognized because we are so much in the mindset of a 1 or 2 skill use playstyle from poe1.
1 ekstra projectile on all skills, is quite interesting and powerful if you actually use a lot of different projectile skills. Compared to multiple projectiles it is 1/2 of the power of a support gem on every skill.
But it ofcause comes down to if this multiple skill use playstyle does hold up or if we are ending up doing a 1 skill build anyway, because in that last case it is for sure not very interesting.
I think deadeye is going to be very powerful (and bows in general look strong). I think a lot more things can shotgun too so +1 proj without a damage penalty is really good... But it feels pretty boring to see an ascendancy that's the same as PoE1 when all the other classes got so many different and interesting options.
It feels like a sleeper ascension. It doesn't look that attractive, but then you realize how good it can be. It's not the same shiny as the others, as has been said.
not a criticism, so much as a general reminder.
While certain ascendancies/classes definitly lean towards certain weapons/skills
it sounds like NO ascendancy has weapon specific abilities, so nothing is stopping you from being big beefy boi with a bow
or monk go bonk!
I'm torn between Sorc, or more likely between Witch and Monk.
Secondarily, I'm curious about the Merc.
I'm gonna play with my partner, which will main a Witch. I was thinking Monk would be nice, however would the better play be to go Mercenary, because it's Str/Dex and Witch is Int. I'm thinking about avoiding the situation where an item drops that's good for both, because Monk is Str/Int. What do you guys think? I like both Merc and Monk, but was leaning into Monk because the idea of a ranged and melee party sounds nicer.
Monk is Dex/Int by archetype. But I wouldn't worry too much about avoiding armor class overlap. The attributes apply more to the Skills available to an archetype by default, you can swap your travel nodes to whatever attribute you want. So if you want to be a witch wearing heavy Str armor, that's fine (provided you use Str skills).
There have been about 3 builds that i've really enjoyed in PoE1 that i was hoping to use in PoE2.
Thorns Super-tank and Super-Speed build.
I might try to do super-speed with the Chronomancer...that seems like it would be funny.
If you like super speed, pathfinder looks pretty sweet for attack while moving + lower attack penalty + cannot be slowed.
I was really wanting to play druid and that was my first only focus :(
Now I dont know... Maybe monk or mercenary but im new to POE 2
Despite the excitement, you are perfectly fine waiting until later (closer to or up until release) to play.
I used to play path exile one and I know how the skill tree works and I’m very little bit very familiar with path exile so I have a little my work cut out for me on path exiled to
My biggest question is do your power reset every season or every DLC or whatever it is?
Path of Exile is a Seasonal game, so yes every new league you start over. There is "Standard" and that'll probably be a pretty good place to play long term for the first couple years of PoE2, but over time it'll become bloated by tons of wealth from people who have been there for a long time which makes it much harder for new players.
@Tenkiei oh I see thank you
Minions is my go-to. So, witch. For sure
i always try out poison build to start with, so probably something pathfinder for me (poison prolif) but i guess the crossbow guy has some poison stuff available too
im curious how much skills of other weapons will already be ingame, since i was planning on doing a dagger poison pathfinder myself, but i might have to wait for shadow release to try that.
I'm not sure, but I kinda suspect some of the weapons aren't going to be available.
I saw gas grenade for crossbow. It looks like poison, could be chaos dot though.
0:32 The math isn’t mathing. You said there were 6 classes but only listed 5
Chaos caster dark monk could be a thing. If not definitely blood witch
I feel like GGG has gone out of their way to make most of the ascendancies flexible. You'll probably be limited to attacks or spells on some of them, but aside of that you can use a wide variety of skills and weapons for your endgame build.
Imagine a arpg where you don't have to reset every season that's literally the only thing preventing me from playing these games
Then play the "eternal" realm.
I think these games largely benefit from this formula to keep things fresh on league start with new additions/balance.
It's hard to explain to people that just don't get it, I suppose. I can see why a casual/new player would dislike it.
Think the simplest of the several reasons is that the player trading economy exists and is a large part of the game. No resets would make that not engaging.
With the way POE is expected to work, unfortunately, resets are a vital part of the game, and for any arpg's that strive to have a fulfilling/long-lasting endgame.
Hope you still enjoy the game though if you decide to play! Looks incredible
Can I dual wield dagger or sword as monk or no? Sorry for the dunb question
No worries! I'm not sure if daggers/swords are going to be in the early access at the start but if they are should be able to, yes.
The way dual wielding works in PoE1 - you can mix and match any melee weapons, such as 2 daggers, or dagger and axe so long as the skill is compatible with both. You cannot mix a melee and a ranged weapon, so no wand and sword.
It should work the same in PoE2, and any class can use any weapon, some will just be more suited to the archetypes supported by an ascendancy.
@@Tenkiei Thank you 👍
I haven’t been this hype for a game in a minute though. Think I’m going to main Sorceress. Or witch.
Both are looking pretty good!
Mercenary Gemling Legionnaire for sure.
Lord, have mercy on my build 🙏
The legionnaire looks like a hotbed for degenerate builds and autobombers.
this is the way
Bloodborne inspired which hunting melee (BIGGGG HAMMER) merc.
Lets gooooooooi
So youve been saying that classes «use» specific weapons and abilities… Is that just a reccomendation or class fantasy or is poe 2 diverting hard from the whole any class any skill thing
Edit: LOL yea ok just keep watching my bad
Yeah it's just a handy way to introduce things, especially because a lot of new players are going to go with an in-game recommended build based on the class fantasy.
PoE 1 should have desensitized you to this level of info dumps by now
You'd think, but this was still overwhelming because there was such a density of information. I feel like there are a ton of things you can find if you freeze-frame a specific section that you'd overwise miss just watching through.
Said six classes. Only named 5. Did I miss something?
@ ok he only said 5 though right or did I hear it wrong?
im a bit confused there is no minion witch ascendancy (at first look)
it's probably going to be the 3rd ascendancy which gets released later /shrug
Minions get all the 6Ls they'd ever want, no need for an ascendancy to make sure they're viable.
I think they're making an effort to make ascendancies more generic. So instead of having a "minion ascendancy" you have something like the hellhound on Infernalist who makes you tankier and lets you play an ignite minion build.
Is there a male bow ranger or huntress?
No. Classes in PoE are gender locked.
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I wonder if you can build any other melee build with warrior as in other weapon / skills, I mean if there is any? or is it slams + maces thats it anyone knows?
I don't know how many weapons are available for the early access but you'll definitely have quarterstaff.
Between Merc & Monk for me
Will early access be on xbox ?
I believe it's available on all platforms yes.
@Tenkiei TY
I’m going for monk
I barely touched POE1 because of my dislike of the gems in gear system, glad it’s gone!
I feel like people are so dead-set in how certain characters are played.
This is path of exile, there's no one way to play a character... for instance; the mercenary doesn't need to use a crossbow.. they can be 100% melee.
I think it's less that people are dead set on characters being played a certain way, and more that (with so little information) it helps to ground things. Especially because your early game experience (1-45) is very likely to be grounded in the recommended archetype. Can you probably start 100% melee on a mercenary? Yeah. But will most people? No, they're gonna start with crossbows and transition in endgame.
Warrior main 😊
Where is the druid?
Not available for the start of early access. But Jonathan said adding Druid is one of their priorities.
@@Tenkiei Technical problems?
ty, Nice vid, the background music a little to loud for me though.
inferno witch prob
is there Neocromancer?
Duel 2 hander baby
Good old titan grip fury warrior.
this is definitely going to be fun
This is it boys!!! D4 is out!!!
Not if these classes are still gender locked…can’t go from full character creator back to 1995 gender locked classes
I'm very much in favor of the fact that GGG decided to make the exiles individuals with unique backstories and personalities instead of voiceless soulless dolls for people to play self-insert with.
@@Tenkiei agreed.
I will play WASD for sure, best class by far
One of my biggest concerns, not my biggest... but one of the top 3... is that, despite the appearance of a massive variety, there is too much focus. I'm a minion player at my center. I sometimes play other types, and definitely WANT to all the time, I inevitably return to center every league, at least for a time.
How many of these ascendancies even mention allies or minions? Just 1?
Yet, PoE1 has them mentioned in no less that 3 (Necromancer, Guardian, Champion), maybe include Scion, and one or two others.
I get that it isn't finished yet... but, the starting 12 ascendancies don't even focus on them at all, AND there's only 1 (so far). Just makes me really concerned that minions are either not a major concern at all, or so big of a thing that they are holding it off. I'd be very concerned if it was the second actually, as that means it is on the verge of being over-powered. Minions are almost always OP, and that is by accident. In this case, it would mean they are OP on purpose, and they are trying to make sure it isn't TOO over-powered.
When that sort of thing happens in games (with other powers, skills, etc), it generally results in a very bad thing.
We've seen less than half the nodes for each ascendancy so it's possible the minion nodes didn't get showcased yet. Minions could also work differently, maybe they inherit more stats from the player so the distinction of "minion" or "allies" isn't needed. This is very much a "wait and see" type deal imo.
@@Tenkiei Right, it's just why it's a concern. Minion builds are as big of a thing as totem builds or slam builds, bigger I think. But an ascendancy that focuses on those was showcased.
My main point was that the ascendancies look extremely focused, the classes as well. I mean, they say no matter what class you play, you have tons of options on which weapons and skills to use. Yet, haven't seen any videos, even by non-GGG, with a Mercenary using anything other than a crossbow.
I get that it is a new weapon, fun to play with, but why never a sword, mace, bow, even a staff or wand? Is the Merc so focused into XBow that using anything else is underpowered? Of course, they also might only be allowed to use pre-made builds, too.
This is why I can't wait to play the game. I want to experiment with so many things!!
Cyclone !!!!
Yip. Yip.
Spin2Win
Imagine not picking the ascendancy that gives you a doggo. smh
Well, if you are a cat person :p
I'm going for Witch Blood Mage
disappointed theres any male casters/wizards still
Why does the ranger in every ARPG look so lame? It is some sorta fantasy trope?
Melee looks kinda trash to me tbh.. Ive tried the "slam" archetype in PoE and it is fminearly on.. But moving like a slug can only be fun for so long.. IMO, melee combat "feel" is the only thing D4 does better than PoE.
Id have to say Im leaning gemling merc right now.. being able to use any skill without attribute requirements seems like the right move on a first playthru.. either that or Ill stick to pathfinder.. Ive started PoE 1 leagues with exclusively pathfinder going on 3 years so why stop now?
There's going to be different types of melee in PoE2, yes slams are probably slow on the warrior. But the monk looks very fast and agile. Speed wise I expect him to compete with a lot of the ranged builds.
I think the slams look awesome and this is from a barb main on d4. I think the big thing is the damage has to be there with the slow attacks or else it will feel like a waste. Kind of like great sword in monster hunter.
Are classes gender locked?
Each of the classes represent a specific character, with their own unique story and background. As you play through the campaign, you'll learn more. For example the warrior, is an apprentice Blacksmith in Ogham, he was taken in at a young age and trained both as a smithy, and a fighter.
Essentially, yes.
@@MatthewKelley-mq4ce Oh noes ! i can't be an HP office printer jet 6700 series ? sadface
gender lock?
Are the classes still gender locked??
The only reason I’m going to give this game a try is because monk. I like Poe but I hate these developers so much. They only care about money in their pocket and wanna make light of console players in their interviews. PoE 1 looked like it belonged on a Dreamcast for 10 plus years on console but they want console money on release now for PoE 2? The gall to sell 370 dollars for a cosmetic pack. Thats Tencent and GGG making sweet love all the way to the bank. Despicable.
"cosmetic pack" is correct - no need to buy anything you don't want. This is a huge, free game (with a possible exception of needing/wanting stash tabs).
That pack also includes every cosmetic, forum title, weapon effect, pet, or anything else from all the packs under it. And as others have said, its all optional unless you want early access.