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Surface Book 3 (13.5-inch) first look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- Microsoft updated the Surface Book 3 with new 10th Gen Intel processors and new GPU options. In this first look, Dieter Bohn talks about the whole idea of this laptop with a detachable screen. If your laptop screen turns into a tablet, what are the tradeoffs?
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Does the Surface Book 3 have enough horsepower for your needs?
I`d rather use Mac.
I use it for streaming my Steam VR to my Quest in HD and it does a damn fine job for VR gaming 👍🏻
Absolutely Plenty.
One thing that I kind of miss in the first look is the pen. The Pen is a big plus for me as a student as markups and all kinds of notetaking as well as heavier workflows just work! This makes for a powerful student machine, that kan handle quite a bit of studying.
better question is do i want to sacrifice my pocket over something that is bulky and does the job of pretty much every other laptop there are in the market with better aesthetics?
no you fool me once not twice
i had a surface book 2 and it was the worst decision ever
heavy, bulky, POOR absolutely horrifying battery life, it's like carry a pizza stone around for no reason
Looks too much despite its just a laptop.
Is Dieter the only employee left at Verge?
The rest have corns virus 🦠
Ooof
Nilay loves him 😜
At this point he should just leave the verge and make his own TH-cam channel.
He only has to turn his head and make a question-like inflection every time he doesn't approve something.
The Verge on iPad 13-inch : Phenomenal
On Surface Book : Substantial
yeah thats why they turned it into a surface with a 300 dollar keyboard
@@_lastnline not if you need cpu/gpu intensive work tho!
@@fwng69420 or real software
@@_lastnline the iPad doesn't have a real computer OS. It has the functionality of a chromebook.
@@fwng69420 yup. at 2 or 3 times the cost of an ipad pro and it can't even edit videos as good as an ipad pro.
As an artist and constant sketcher and note-taker, this was my dream laptop. It was too expensive so I settled for a Surface Pro.
Also, people are not buying a detachable tablet laptop with drawing and touch capabilities to play games!
I personally would wanna be able to do all of those things and more even at the same time with such a laptop.
I've got the SB2. Solidworks is great. OneNote is great. AND I can play Rocket League and Warzone with the homies. I didn't purchase it in Feb '18 to play games, but it's nice that I casually can!
@@tonyt913 I have a similar experience, I bought this mainly for University and it works great for taking notes, casual video editing, or CAD. It's just a bonus to be able to play games on the same device.
*shuffles away in embarrassment*
Actually, I am.
I have one of these (1st Gen). Still works great bar the battery draining way quicker than when I first got it
These things are for designers mainly. Someone who is doing a full array of things, all of office, CAD, sketching/marking up, video conferencing
If you only fall into one of those categories, there is something out there cheaper that does the one or two things you do the most better.
This is more of an 'all in one' rather than a 'two in one'
yeah I use mine for App Development, Studying for University, Creative work and reading Mangas and stuff. There is just nothing that comes close to the versatility of the SB
I also have the Gen1. You can replace the battery yourself- there's a tutorial on ifixit, or have it done for you at your local repairshop. It'll work much better after that, and doesn't cost a ton.
I bought the 2nd gen 15 inch in December and it's been working great. I love the tablet feature and it's great for school as well as just content consumption. I also do a bit of light video editing and it handles it perfectly. A bit bummed out that the refresh came out now but I did desperately need a new computer and this was the best I could have picked :)
@@shreysoni7391 this thing actually makes me want to be back in uni/school...it would make life so much easier 😂👍
chooqqsonthenooqs All repair places I live refuse to work on the tablet part
Good review Dieter! I just wanted to respond to the question you and Nilay keep asking about who this laptop is for. The Surface Book is tailor made for the design and construction industry. You need graphics horse power when you are designed at your desk but you need a large tablet when you go to your construction site to look a your drawings or fly through your model. I know many of my colleagues in the architecture, engineering and construction industry that love their Surface Books.
The verge will never understand anything beyond an Apple product
I'd argue that this is also built for students (probably mostly in the same architecture and engineering fields). The tablet form is perfectly portable to be able to take handwritten notes on during lectures or docking to a keyboard for essays that get uncomfortable on a flimsy Surface Pro keyboard. For math students, writing with the pen is perfect for equations. For design/architecture students, it's powerful enough to run graphics and editing software. Unfortunately, it's definitely not in a normal student budget.
@@Emilyspace_ yeah my gripe is with the price... If they made it less thin and light and more inexpensive it would be great. Even the Surface Pros are a tad too expensive for what they offer.
Great device for Industrial Designers too!
I do not own a Surface laptop yet. I am actually looking into buying one of these or maybe the less expensive Surface Pro. What I intend to use this is for reading digital sheet music (when detached from the keyboard, of course) while neatly placed on the music stand of my piano. The bigger screen appeals to me compared to the smaller Surface Pro. Also to use this for writing or notating music using the pencil. I have seen a notation app called StaffPad and I was blown away at the features. Aside from that, I want to be able to use this for word processing, productivity and media consumption. I have yet to see musicians who use Surface and review the product (it’s mostly iPad Pro users who do) and see how useable this is in a live music performance setting.
Anyone who loved it still loves it, anyone who didn't still doesn't.
I have the 15 in SB2, and I love it. I am not a huge gamer, but I love the tablet feature as well as working with the Surface Pen, and more. IT fits my needs, and that's the important part. Yes, it is a little pricy, and the CPU/GPU could be better. I have never used Thunderbolt, so I can't comment on whether I am affected by that or not. One of the things I wish they would have done with the SB3 is to add some USB Ports into the tablet portion. I do presentations, and sometimes there isn't a BT/Wifi Projector, and I have to use the base.
Makes perfect sence
i am confused between mac and surface book it is more usable as it can be used to take notes as we;ll and i want to be a ui ux and app developer so the thing is
@@techsandbulls1869 the thing is??
I own a surface book 2 and I love it. It is too heavy though.
These were built for chads not manlets
@@DarkSoul-ds2 Oooh. Edgy~ 📐
I have the first surface book, still love it although it gets a bit slow at times
Same here. I have the 15 inches surface book 2 for about 2 years. On paper it weighs almost the same as a MacBook Pro 15, but it feels a bit heavier somehow.
@@Asdfghjkl-ls1or I just did a clean install of w10 on my surface book 1 and its like a new machine, super fast. It was becoming slow for me too.
He attaches the screen like a million times
That's the whole point of this thing
Hey! He also detaches it like a million times mind you
i don't blame him doe. it looks satisfying and problably feel satisfying to.
@@ChutneyCity thought you get the point😅😜
For all that docking and undocking it's surprising he didn't dock it in reverse
That eliminates the nonsense he was speaking about being unable to CAD/draw with GPU
Surface Book 3, the only modern laptop/tablet that has FRONT FIRING SPEAKERS
with the best "tablet" keyboard
The Yoga 900 series has front facing speakers - with that rotating speaker bar thing.
wtf dude
Do you mean a 2-in-1? Because there are plenty of ultrabooks with front firing speakers
@@manaspradhan8041 which? front and not UP... any ultrabook has speakers by the screen?
@@DarkPa1adin oh, I thought you meant like on the base, besides the keyboard on both sides.
Emmm....the drawing experience? YOU LEFT OUT THE DRAWING EXPERIENCE!!!!
It's because Dieter isn't an artist or a designer, at all. It's always fun when these types of guys review products geared for creatives, the usually completely miss or dont understand the reason behind why the product is designed the way it is.
The drawing experience hasn’t changed much on any Surface device since the Surface Pro 3 which is to say it’s nice but not the best, not even the best on a normal (non Wacom type) tablet. imo if you’re looking for a tablet to draw on you’re better off getting a cheaper XPS 13 and an iPad or iPad Air.
Tyler Young yeah after weeks of deciding I bought an iPad Pro 2nd gen yesterday. I only wanted to know about the drawing experience so he could tell me it wasn’t as good as the iPad Pro :D
@@0mildoo Had the xps 13 2in1. Do not recommend.
Danish Sheikh well he showed everything else in this “first look”. Seeing as the main selling point of the device is the removable tablet you think he’d mention it. He’s awesome but it would have been nice to know what it’s like
The Surface Book has been on my list since its first iteration. A tad too expensive though for what it offers, which has put me off so far.
I have the SB2 13in. It’s amazing. Highly recommended. I don’t see myself getting a different brand even if it breaks, I’ll probably get the same one.
Like I'm staring at my reflection. I can relate
yeah, but theres nothing quite like it so (for me) it's justified, especially with the spec refresh
@Leander Berg I think that surface pro are really good for stylus too.
Agreed. And the second hand market price is ridiculous
I feel like people don’t cut enough slack for companies other than apple even when their innovations are quite phenomenal.this is top heavy?has he even seen the new iPad pro’s keyboard.Most reviewers give way too much leeway for apple and praise even minor upgrades and changes but don’t acknowledge enough real innovations in design and quality of hardware in other areas and hence other than apple no tech company can really push any true change,they end up following apple even when their changes are eventually detrimental to the customer.Don’t know if its an inherent bias unknown to them or if they are really partial to apple.
Look at their coverage on the TCL Pro. It's incredibly telling.
The Verge on every review of a non Apple product: "Hey, here is a list of trade-offs".
Oscar Féliz Exactly
True
yes!!
maybe they're happy with the money they receive from Apple
“Here are the trade offs. But is it good? Not really” every single time
I’ve used the surface book in a work environment and it just awesome,
Microsoft really makes the sexiest computing hardware!
i'd say dell, with its xps lineup has the surface beat
@@picklesnachos5417 yeah in some points though
@@picklesnachos5417 I like the all metal design, hate that the XPS has that carbon bit
Dieter should make his own youtube channel. Imho, He is the best reviewer on youtube. Simple, intuitive, and unbiased person.
good idea
@조먀두 is it?
Ko Timo same, he needs to go solo
Unbiased 😕apple stuff😕
Is he’s the best reviewer at the verge then thier standards are really low
Macbooks having the same design since 2005....The Verge: Wow unbelievable design!!!
Surface Books having the same design since 2018...The Verge: Hmm, outdated design!
It's 2015 not 2018...
The last redesign for MacBook Pro 13 was in 2016, 2018 for MacBook Air and 2019 for MacBook Pro 16.
@@paulu_ theres no drastic difference with them is his point
non apple reviews seems always biased...am I the only one who thinks that
A graphic designer here with original Surface Book, and I can't Imagine myself using a normal laptop again, thanks Microsoft
when I'm in tablet mode, I'm always wishing they just have a kickstand for the tablet.
You can detach and them attach it backwards. It would work as a kickstand
and more battery life
@@maxiholler7828 True, but doing that still feels like work, and the base can be kind of bulky trying to use it as a kickstand alternative.
I have an original SB and totally agree. There have been so many times when I would have used this.
The verge in a nutshell:
Microsoft builds powerful and sleek laptop/tablet: "It's all about trade-offs"
Apple removes headphone jack: "so brave, phenomenal!"
Yeah, true, apart from all the times in Verge videos they complain about the lack of a headphone jack. So not true at all then.
If the CPU uses Ryzen 4800U or 4900HS, it can guarantee the basic performance without too high heat.
completely agreed!
honestly, half of that tablet is empty space right now which can be used for cooling, and the whole thing isn't all that thick at all compared to the bottom of the macbook pro. i will pay good money if MS can stick more battery and a higher wattage CPU (with properly scaled cooling) in the tablet portion too.
agreed on this. ms should havr gone ryzen
@@vikumwijekoon3166 Every single manufacturer should've gone Ryzen this year.
Firwok: Nvidia Graphics Cards r Junk-A-Lunka according to u. I would not know, I'm not a Gamer, so I'll take your word for it.
I'd rather have a Ryzen than an GPU. For my use case I would get far more value for the money.
As a Surface Book 2 owner for nearly 2 years, after watching this, I literally just realized that I can charge the tablet on its own. I had always thought/assumed to charge the tablet portion you had to dock it with the keyboard, haha.
you can also charge the tablet on its own by plugging it directly from the dock connector
That was like the big revelation for me after I got it. Nobody is talking about that you can just charge the tablet directly and never have to bother about battery life while on the couch.
Also there is a surface connector to type c adapter so you can charge the tablet with a powerbank or type c charger
hahahah you also know you can charge it with the usb c no need for the charger cable if you are in the car or something
@@kimmi1462 exactly and that's why I still don't understand their reason for using the surface adapter if you could just charge it using usb type-c
@@leondroidgeeks i guess maybe because its magnetic and maybe the surface doc uses that plug as well. I just leave there own charger at home and use my own usb c charger to charge anywhere
Love love love my Surface Book 2, have been using it as my primary work machine for 4 years. Looking forward to upgrading to a 3 when I can save the money for it.
Lol SB2 hasn't been even out for 4 years
Funnily despite the price ig et back my investment in a matter of weeks. With the amount of the type of work I can get done unimpeded it's well worth the investment.
My problem is I always have to buy it overseas! MSFT support the Philippines fully already!
There is more innovation in this one machine than Apple have had in the past 10 years.
well said
*4 years, but apple is working on their apple silicon macs which will change macs a lot.
I think the hinge is okay. You mentioned dust issues, but I haven't seen anyone having issues with that.
I personally have experienced very little dust get on the hinge itself but honestly I don't think it should hold one back from purchasing. I have a little brush i use to clean the keyboard and everything to keep it clean
0:51 DON'T DO THAT. you can't leave the dock plugged in and take off the laptop I fried my dock on my split x2 and now I have a tablet with no IO only way I can do anything is with Bluetooth...
I can't believe there's no i9 or Bluetooth 5.1 for the price. I want to know when laptops with cellular connectivity and eSIM will be a thing.
Excited to see the review!
For me, I accept some of the trade-offs since I actually find this form factor pretty much perfect for me. I need a laptop that can be used a pure tablet with full pen support without that bulky weird feeling keyboard at the back on most 2-in-1s, and still respectably powerful enough with GPU for graphically heavier load and occasional gaming. The 3:2 aspect ratio is also great, I wished they upgraded the panel to improve Adobe RGB gamut. Since I do art, photography and programming with some gaming on the go for LAN party, this is pretty much tick all the boxes and a balanced device for me. If there is another device with similar form factor on another brand that can fit better spec with lower price, I would go for that. But for now, this is pretty much only in the market, thus in its own class.
For those who is looking for better price to performance laptop, Surface Book isn't a right device for it. Traditional workstation laptops that has 45W CPU would be the best choice still.
i think one of the big problems with people reviewing the SB is that they say it not Top of the Tier here and there. The SB is about being pretty good at everything which is way less limiting than a laptop that does one thing super well and some things are just not possible.
+1000 I hate feeling keyboard keys on the back of tablet mode on two in ones.
The Surfacebook is a capable Ultrabook.
Not exactly the same. The function keys have been remapped which is a feature that Microsoft has been trying to get right for three generations.The first-generation surface book did not have function keys assigned to change the brightness of the screen. 2nd generation had dedicated f keys for that. They've been remapped again.
I do not have a Surface Book 3 to look at and compare with my SB2, but perhaps you could elaborate.
I'm waiting for the redesign of this. Bigger trackpad and smaller bezels. Hopefully that will come on the 4th version.
As a 15" SB2 user, I am kinda disappointed in this update. It's been a few years, and… it's kinda just a spec bump. I really hoped for a more refined form factor. I *love* using it as a touch/pen device (I use it flipped, but attached to keep the 'good' GPU running). You don't really get the versatility from other tablets/laptops.
All the trade offs he mentioned are worthy for the design and usability 😍
Except the price...
i use the surface book 13.5 inch model for 3 years and now i have been using the surface book 2 for around 8 months and for me is the perfect 2 in 1 device i love it , and the battery last like 10 to 12 hours depending on the update you have .
It's not just the tablet. The whole point of this form factor is the canvas mode when you take off the screen, spin it around, and put it back on. You then have an angled screen for pen input with all the battery and GPU. This is pretty much the only option for a whole range of professionals.
Last time I was this early, macbooks had a logo which lit up.
I really want a Surface Book with OLED Display and a more modular design.
I want to change/Upgrade: The SSD, RAM, and the battery.
They should also shrink down those bezels...
Agrre with all that you said. And they should also offer a black version!
@@annecy49 Yeah, like their new headphones...
Those bezels are for windows hello and for tablet use
@@LogicalError007 I would use a fingerprint sensor over Face Recognition...
@@user-bp8yg3ko1r People don't say those things about Apple products.
I don't know what to do throughout the video! So I'll just keep attaching and detaching the surface book! Even if it's not being spoken about or even if viewers have already seen how it happens/works!
I wonder what happens if you put the surface book 2 screen on a surface book 3 keyboard (or viceversa)
Still rocking my book 1. Nice no one can tell the difference between a 1 from a 3.
1:43 looking at you Apple.
The Verge works for Apple?
Is it worth upgrading to the intel i7 over the AMD Ryzen 7? The 15in version with Intel i7 + Nvidia is roughly USD 500 more expensive where I am vs the AMD.
I wont need it for much content creation apart from editing podcasts, but will mainly be general multi-tasking and keeping 10+ chrome tabs open. I also like being able to read on the tablet from my couch, so my main concerns will be battery life and multitasking.
What do you think?
This is the one I have been waiting for 😍
I still own the 1st gen SB
SB1: Cool & Quirky early adopter stuff.
SB2: Ok, didn't really optimize the design, but nice new internals.
SB3: Wow, you really didn't fix the design? It's too heavy, trackpad is too small, hinge mechanism isn't the greatest. You can't just ride the internals game forever with an Ultrabook, Microsoft.
Definitely have been waiting for the SB3. For me, this seems to be the right form factor if you want the tablet and laptop fused into one. The only are that I expect to want improvement in is the battery life of the clipboard.
But what about the quadro? I want to know about the QUADRO
He complains about things I’ve never been concerned with using my surface books... only problem.. too expensive🤷🏿♂️
@drew scrivers Guess we are different kinds of users, because when he talked about those issues it resonated, those are the biggest pain points for me as well. But I never draw so I dont' even think of mentioning it.
I've loved my first Surface device, the Surface Book 2, modern looking, really different from other products oout on the market, but the paint on the device scratches way to fast, doing almost nothing with it, sitting all day on the desk(and i'm someone who can't sleep at night if i scratch something i own:)) )
After a few months, and a few macbooks(that didn't scratch doesn't matter what i've done to it), i came back to Surface, now with the Surface Laptop 3 13,5" with alcantara
I just love this device, it's the first laptop that i've owned more than 3 months, it's super premium, and i like more the ideea of a laptop than a 2 in 1(because it wears to batteries at the sime time, one more than other)
The problem with the scratches on the SB2 didn't disappeared on the SL3, still wondering how it's scratches without moving from my desk :))) but anyway, there's no any laptop that compares with this :)
Are you made of money? How do you switch out laptops every less than 3 months usually?
There are a mate transparent skins on the market for SB2/3. It's absolutely invisible and not ruining it's design anyhow.
@@TG93Handle Not really! Look, this is my secret :) i'm buying brand new devices from olx(like ebay, but in our country) at less than half of the retail price
I use them for about 2-3-4 weeks and after i sell them with 100-250$ more. So now, i earn some money using a new laptop every month, really cool, right?
I bought this surface laptop 3 at half of the retail price, now i wanna sell it to try the Surface Pro 7
@@pashykevich oh, good to know, i never thought of that
Don't forget about drafting mode! I have a book 2 and you connect the top backward and turn 180 degrees and it's amazing for drawing.
Should've mentioned the battery life, but I guess you will in the full review. My experience is 10 hours easily while browsing Chrome with MS Word and a few other light applications, and 5 hours doing CAD or anything that might require a bit of GPU power. Expect no more than 1 hour 30 mins when using CPU and GPU heavily.
This is the main reason I got this laptop...it has outstanding performance when I want it and amazing battery life when I need it... Nothing else on Windows completed with it (at least 2 years ago when I got my SB2).
Last time I was this early to a Verge video, the iPhone still had a headphone jack.
“This isn’t the final form” lol the Frieza of convertible laptops!
As a first gen owner, i had a lot of expectations like upgradable base, more stable hardware firmware and new designs. Guess i'll have to wait a few more years.....
I'd be interested to see what performance scores it gets in pure tablet mode compared to laptop mode. I love the idea of this, but I'm still not entirely sure when I'd use it as a tablet and not go for my iPad.
The design look futuristic!!!!
Macbook has the same old design
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Microsoft should include a pen to fill the gap
I don't know for you but in France you can buy it right now and get the pen for free with it.
I’m hoping the original one becomes super affordable, it was my first laptop and I (very regrettably) sold it but don’t really have enough money to buy another one :(
I've had the first generation Microsoft Surface Book for almost 5 years, and still use it every day for classroom activities (Microsoft Office), photo editing (Adobe Lightroom), and video editing (Adobe Rush). I'll most likely be upgrading to this newer 3rd generation in the next month or two. This exact version actually.
If you'd be shyed away by the price, I'll let you know these Surface devices hold their value VERY well. Just check ebay and Amazon
Even for the 15W version, I still want the six-core CPU i7-10710U .
Why settle? Get a 4800U!
Intel? AMD: laughing
Don’t get MAD get AMD
Says there's a better GPU option but won't mention what that is... Wth?
Also does the tablet now charge when you put it back into keyboard without the charger? Because battery life of the tablet portion is pretty low like an hour and won’t charge back simply by putting it into a fully charge base. The only way to recharge the tablet side was to either directly plug in the charge into the tablet or put it back into the base keyboard and plug it in wall charger.
Anyway,I will buy a Surface Book 3.
@McBossBrine Ikr
I like my SB2 15, its a powerful laptop, that I can use as a tablet for taking notes. It's not flawless though and the SB3 doesn't do anything to fix the problems I have with it.
I doubt that windows will be pleasant to use in tablet mode for a long time outside of applications.
I like drawing on the screen, but there's no need for it to be detachable since windows is clunky in tablet mode.
In conclusion I hope to keep my sb2 for another year or two. But unless Microsoft fixes the problems i have, I'll plan on getting an xps 15 (with ryzen maybe!) And an ipad
Did anyone else look right at the 0:48 mark? That was some trippy sound editing.
I loved taking notes in lectures with the surface book (compared to standard notetaking). Now that I'm stuck at home, I still love having the option to detach the screen when perusing the internet and stuff like that. or flipping it around when watching netflix. I don't think I could go back to using a traditional laptop now
You have to remember the cpu can run at 25watts
This. The 13.5 model doesn't really sacrifice in power, it has the same Intel Ice Lake 10th processor as other ultrabooks, but capable of running at 25W, which not all do. The i5 model I think it's fanless while still having G7 graphics (Surface Pro 7 and XPS13 use G4 and G1 in their i5 models) just like the Surface Laptop and MacBook Pro 13.
It’s still 15-25W for $2000+. Overpriced. This makes Apple look reasonably priced.
@@chrisak49 can I draw on a MacBook?
@@chrisak49 MBP13 doesn't have dGPU, touch and ink support, detachable screen. You probably don't need a SB3, and that's totally fine.
If you don't need those special features then the MBP13 will have better value.
If you need dGPU and all those special features in a single device, there is nothing like the SB3 in the market right now, nothing.
@@chrisak49 Also, the MBP13 with same CPU starting price starts above SB3 price. It's not a 2000+ device (it can be, just like the MBP13)
Few things they need to change to make people buy them:
-make it cheaper. Its SO EXPENSIVE
-get rid of the bezel
Even with just those two it would attract so much more users to this device smh
Also redesign the hinge (I don’t mind it but it’s getting old), more color options, better trackpad and thunderbolt 3
The bezels are there to give you the space to hold your tablet.
@@vaishali.r202 well the ipad pro has almost half the bezel and it is the best premium tablet. 🙄 So.....
@@iglo1209 Although I do agree that it is a tad bit overpriced.
@@vaishali.r202 thats true, but at the same time the surface book is pretty expensive too (last time I checked it was over 2k) If you're paying that much you probably want a bit more sleek looking screen :(
As someone going to university next year, I believe the trade offs are worth it. I plan on using it for taking notes at lectures and it can really help me stay organized. But then I can also use it as a laptop which is really convenient for doing code and other tasks that require a laptop. I’m also practicing digital art, so I can use the tablet feature for that as well. As a student who will be taking a lot of notes in Uni, I would definitely recommend this from what I’ve seen so far about it, however if I were not a student, then the trade off would not really be worth it.
As for price, I think it’s worth it for me, since I had to choose between getting a 2 in 1 laptop, or getting an iPad and a laptop separately.
@2:58 anyone noticed screen is not stable. It's wobbling without any touch. It would be difficult for media consumption.
I think this going to be my last review video I am watching here, didn't hear anything good about the product except trade offs, trade offs and I don't have any problems with that but where are the good stuff " the non trade offs"
You closed the door finally.
i am convinced.. microsoft literally have the best design team ..for hardware as well as software.. i love windows aesthetics ,both for laptops and well missed windows phone and obviously these awesome looking machines..
i hope if somehow microsoft bring those windows phone back..
do you know that the previous Surface Book 2 (which has the same design as S.B.3 now), its repair-ability is 0. so when your battery need replacement after the warranty void, good luck. they gonna have to tear down a lot of GLUED board to the chassis.
You lost me at 2,500
I love the concept but its way too overpriced. You can get more powerful specs at lower prices. Heck, you can buy a gaming laptop and an iPad and would still spend less.
I don't think the point of this laptop is purely based on specs. It's the form factor. You'd have to ask yourself if you are in the category of people who see themselves benefiting from a detachable powerful screen to justify it's price. That tech is expensive
I've tried many gaming laptops. Most of them had issues with drivers and didn't operate as effectively as Microsoft's products. However, the problem I've had with the surface book 2 is the gpu CONSTANTLY disconnecting. Due to this, I wasn't able to play games over an hour without it disconnecting.
Not only that but Microsoft products are "premium." Compared to other brands like Dell, HP, Lenovo, and others, they feel plasticy and don't have a "nice" texture to their products. So there's a trade-off.
Nobody buys the Books for raw performance. If that's a serious consideration for you, you shouldn't even be looking at the Books because that's not what they're designed for.
Well, an iPad Pro with stylus and keyboard cost already as much so do not know how you could get a laptop on top...
After years of having MacBooks, iPads, Galaxy Tabs, Surface tablets, and windows laptops....why is a thunderbolt port important? I have NEVER used it on ANY device that had one.
if there's no Thunderbolt and apparently no DisplayPort or HDMI ports, how do you connect an external display?
usb type c & surface dock
You slap an Apple logo on a donkey, the verge will call it the best donkey ever
I swear!!! So devoted to Apple
@@Kevynmorgan They bashed Surface Go 2 with M3 processor and said it cannot run photoshop and you go to the MacBook 12" with M3 video the same guy says it's not designed for it and never mentions how slow it is. Absolute p***ies
If apple would have made this he would be drooling 🤤 all over it
Hi.., it was a great video. Can you compare the similar spec macbook pro 13 inch with the surface book 3 ?
I have owned many Surface products: Surface Pros, Go, & Books, & they are nice, but most of them had issues. I have been using MSI GS65 & iPad Pro for awhile now, & now more happy.
So when apple refreshes their devices and no change in design, you guys say "best device ever". And in this case, you spend 10 seconds cribbing about no change in design
Well, most people complain about Apple as a bias. But yeah incremental S upgrades are just lazy. Come on apples 13 inch was boring so Microsoft could have totally beat them if they redesigned
Verge is super biased in favor of Apple - from someone who has nearly all Apple products (Macbook Pro, iPhone 11 Pro Max, iPad Pro,...)
The only thing that bothered me is that it doesnt have Thunderbolt port. Why not make 2 different models one with and one without one if they are concerned with security issues. So the buyer decides it.
definitely need some comparison when u show us the numbers of the benchmark. Seeing how different cooling it is compared to other brands' laptops with the same cpu.
If Hwawei have the guts i would like to see them rip off this design!!!
You mean Huawei. Damn. That's a poor company name people don't know how to spell it.
@@claudiusmoi108 😂 i don't even know how to say it Hawaii???
Or probably a better design
@@MaiONerds 華為 google translate it.
Ungainly, you say, milord ? Tut. A veritable tutteroony. I pass.
Can you compare surface pro 7(i7) with book 3(i7). In my memory they have the same CPU. It will be interesting to see the difference.
Your SP7 would get blown out of the water as the Book3 has a Dedicated GPU
Still rocking the original Surface Book and it's been a dream for me! Surprisingly reliable hinge design, I was expecting it to break or get weaker by now, but it still works and feels as intended! Hopefully I'll upgrade soon, because the 940 equivalent (apparently) GPU isn't really cut out for me, but I have a desktop for that kind of work tbh
Wow, I was expecting a lot from the Surface Book, but I'm disappointed. This is very underwhelming.
Microsoft can do abit more with this devices to make it more awesome without sacrificing its core design. i just feel like they kinda being lazy with their surface book line
I feel like all the hardware this year has been really lazy. Maybe with the exception of the new xps.
@@Davidsworldtravels zephyrus g14!
Nischay yea? I'll look into it
@@Davidsworldtravels true at least they making really attractive design choices that dont feel like just a refresh
the fulcrum is like that because it props up the display at angle when connected screen out enabling better use of sketching apps etc
Hi i am about to buy surface book 3 and my useage is for ui and ux works , sketching and using of multiple software at a time does surface book is a good choice? If yes whats the specification i should buy?
if this was an apple product verge would say its the best
They're not Apple biased these days.
The reviews of any non Apple product feels bias
I have the SB2. I usually just carry the tablet part to work and back. At work I dock, at home I attach it to the keyboard. The tablet is actually lighter than all other computers strong enough for me. Lighter than macbook air 11", lighter than the surface pro.
Not only is the processor a 15W 4-core processor you'd typically find in ultrabooks, it's the exact same processor (1065G7) you get in the Core i7 variant of the Surface Pro 7 (I own one, typing on it right now - it's great). I owned the 13" SB1 and the 15" SB2, and IMO unless you really need the detachable screen (its use is very limited: seriously unwieldy - esp on the 15" model, very limited battery life, no GPU acceleration) or you really like the 3:2 aspect ratio (it's great for coding, writing, research work etc), or you just enjoy having a laptop that's a bit different (totally get that), this is a very 'pro' pricetag for what, in several key ways, is a very 'non-pro' machine. For the same money as the 15" version of the SB3 you can get a similarly specced MacBook Pro 16" or Dell XPS 15 with a heck of a lot more processing power.