Darth Krayt is a fricking gigachad of a Sith, he survived ordeals that would have killed the vast majority of beings (like extreme torture and experimentation by the Yuuzhan Vong), even death couldn't stop him. He would always rise to fight again and literally had to be thrown into the sun to overcome him. Insane, what a total boss. I really wish we could still get more new Legends lore in addition to SWTOR.
@@punishedvenomsnake716 Vergere turned her back on krayt too I find it very interesting how jacen and krayt never met but their fates were intertwined by Vergere
@@Badblood226 Krayt had so many obstacles to overcome during his long life, it was basically nonstop battle. Even his own lieutenant, Darth Wyyrlok III, turned on him and he still emerged triumphant. Jacen and Krayt meeting would have been insane although Vergere indirectly bridges them as you mentioned, this vid makes me want to get back into the post-ROTJ universe lol.
The funny part is that when Jacen was flow walking a skill only he n Luke can do its an esoteric Force ability he learned and saw the vision of The Throne of Balance fate determining that either of the Light would be his daughter Allana Solo or Dark Side being “the Dark Man” whom was Darth Krayt upon the Throne with Allana and Solo’s family as his slaves and the death of Luke Skywalker this vision should he not become a Sith this was the main final nail in the coffin to turn him into Darth Caedus just as much as Lumiya’s grip on him and Vergere’s influence and in the Apocalypse novel Darth Krayt is referred as “the Dark Man” same as Jacen and Luke upon wandering In the Lake of Apparitions after he and Darth Krayt defeated Abeloth he see both Mara Jade wanting to join her and be with her only for her to tell him the Galaxy still needs him and Jacen speaking to him of the Vision he got and there was nothing he could’ve done to prevent Jacen being a Sith.
One of my favorite legends stories. We need more Star Wars novels with captivating storylines like from the legends continuity. They don’t have to be canon or anything. Love the videos SW keep ‘em coming.
I have a fun thought, the Dark Man was either the Dark Jedi Set Harth after learning the secrets of Darth Andeddu holocron. I believe their is enough evidence to say that he ran out of a beings capable of holding his power and was forced to imbue his life into his holocron. Its also possible that it was Darth Andeddu after taking Set Harths body and began to live purely in shadows with a small hidden but powerful army
Just clean up story focus a bit. Legends should have been Templet for new Star Wars. All Disney had to do is focus on main characters while avoiding unnecessary side stories. And possibly a happier ending for Chewie and Skywalker kids.😅
And killed his aunt tried to kill his parents, tortured his cousin and court marshal his sister lied to his lover, kidnapped his daughter and threatened her and betrayed everyone who loved him.
My comment was a rebuttal against the OP's claim that Jacen turned because of Krayt, when it was in fact because of Allana. My comment was of Jacen's motivation, not the lengths he went to. Your comment of his actions was therefore irrelevant to my comment.
Would Jason have done what he did if the vision of the dark man ruling didn't have Alana in it?? Idk. Jason was already broken. And Lumia would have still used him. Idk. Seeing alana certainly pushed him
Yeah, managed to do so twice. Earlier on with a strike team when trying to trap Abeloth and later on when they went to try and finish her off (the next best thing to it without the Mortis Dagger).
This ia why Darth Marr is one of my favorite Sith and characters in SW lore. He aligned with the Jedi and Republic to take down a larger evil, Valkorion. He never had any thoughts of betrayal either, he actually had some respect for the Jedi Grand Master, Satele Shan.
Could you do a video of the full story of haven solo fall to the dark side from the New Jedi order to the legacy of the forces final novel. From what Vergere Lumiya, Yuuzhan Vong, the embrace of pain. How he went from a liver of animals to betraying everyone who ever loved him.
You can blame some of his "doing what needs to be done" philosophy on the Yuuzhan Vong War and Vergere. The two forced Jacen to change and adapt to survive the war and return to his family. But he never truly got the healing war veterans in his position needed. Another example would be Rambo. Look at how he broke down at the end of the first movie. His time in the war severely traumatized him. Not only did he never get the proper healing, he was further traumatized in the later movies.
No his only interaction was the mystery of whom he was dubbed “The Dark Man” in the Apocalypse novel that fought besides him in the Lake of Apparitions and Luke wondered whom he was that he was not a Lost Tribe Sith because they didn’t believe in having tattoos and markings on themselves as Darth Krayt did ruling out his affiliation with that faction of the only Sith after The Rule Of Two so Luke didn’t know the history of Krayt in that regard only that he was in Jacen’s vision.
Dark Krayt became what Darth Gravid tried to do by merging Sith and Jedi teachings together not the Light and Dark. Gravid lost his mind as he didn’t know how to be a Jedi as he, just like the Banite System dictated, became a Sith first. Krayt had the chance to take his Jedi teachings and merged it with Sith teaches especially the ancient teachings of the original Dark Jedi that were outcast on Korriban. Though Krayt also had to go through much greater agony than mental disruptions he was able to merge Sith and Jedi together, at least in his own unique way. Perhaps that was what allowed Krayt to help Luke when Abeloth was present. Not just because she was a much greater evil but his Jedi self could’ve emerge just for a moment to help rather than dominate.
Need more vong stories. And also isn't this like where luke kinda just let shit happen krayte is an opportunities taker... I always had this question if luke really wasn't so relaxed and like hippie about everything And he really took the time to become what his father was instead of just acting like he was what he became, I don't know, I wonder how Star Wars would have kept going with him.Because if he would have been what he was supposed to be it would have been different
Jacen Solo bought them time. His actions changed the future of Allana Solo going to the darkside and standing with the "dark man" (Krayt) Very unfortunate that he turned Dark and died. He was INSANELY powerful and actually harnassed that power by learning all kinds of techniques. I loved the Legacy of the Force novels and wish they would have just followed those books for the sequels. I think Disney would have had to pay royalties to the authors or something because it doesn't make any sense for them to just change everything like they did.
"Even in evil, the sith bring their own victory"... okay "even in evil the jedi bring their own victory" is my thoughts on that, yet both exist and are stuck in their ways. A hues is a color. So...
Revan and Caedus both tell themselves they bring a sacrifice (kreia do to but for a different reason) but the dark can only fought by the jedi not by the dark jedi.
ForJacen/Kiadus he only had it PART right. I think about the ONLY Force user that can be Good aligned BUT still use Darkside abilities an power would be those Grey or neautral aligned and/OR those with a history of it. An have become wild cards or on they way back to something more balanced or light side. Like Ventress, Quen Lin Viss or Galen/Starkiller Marik. That haave roots so steeped in Dark they choose now to be Good or mostly good...ish... BUT Darkside abilities are so engrained in them they'll probably STILL be using them even at senior citizen an older ages an reaching things like GrandMaster Jedi levels.. pretty sure if ever we saw an Alternative Reality GrandMaster Jedi Starkiller hed STILL be hurling force lightning as one of his MOST deadly an signature Force attacks couple with his signature fighting style
Title is a bit click bait as you brought up kryat at the start and I love that story, he allied with the lost tribe of the sith at several points and was traveling with and working with a young sith girl from said tribe most of the series which ends with him teaming up with darth kryat, love you stories and lore dumps just wanted to toss out that bit
Another note Jason in his turn to the dark accomplished what he wanted. In the pool of knowledge Jason saw a image of darth kryat on the thrown of balance and when Luke saw it Jason's daughter sat on the thrown which he told Jason later when he saw Jason in the lake of apparitions Jason smiled when told
Luke did try to ally with the lost tribe of the sith first aigenst abeloth (They was the ones bringing it up first) but sith do what they do and attempted to backstab/betray luke There is a few other times in history when sith and jedi did acctualy work together, like aigenst a self replicating type of drone, and there is also the sith that was managing the empire that worked together with a jedi grandmaster and ended up turning to the light. he was acctualy demed one of the least evil sith ever in several videos covering that topic, he realy belived in that empire.
Abeloth appeared in the ‘Fate of the Jedi’ novel series. A set of 9 books released between 2009 and 2012/13. Jacen becoming Darth Caedus was during the ‘Legacy of the Jedi’ (should be Legacy of the Force) novel series. Which chronologically ended about 2 years earlier. Jacen had his first vision of Krayt during the NJO novel series. Darth Krayt was featured in the ‘Legacy’ comic series by Dark Horse. Which was set roughly around 140 aby.
@ No. Unfortunately, they only released one novel for one last adventure for the big 3 of the OT after FotJ, and finished the Legacy comics by tying up the loose ends with the One Sith, though the last issue left with something going on. In my head canon, Abeloth returns after the end of the Legacy comics. But without the Dagger and the galaxy in disarray, they had no choice but to regroup and send most of the remaining Jedi / Force Users to Tython to wait things out to keep Abeloth from using or draining them or whatever she did with Force users. Which was probably the purpose of the Tho Yor 37,000 years earlier.
So someone please explain because my knowledge of this period is limited(thanks disney) was krayt and his sith comparable to sideous or even the old republic era sith or after sideous did the sith really die?
I mean Luke joined the empire of Darth Brandon, so he is still working with an evil empire to this day he also tried to Kylo Ren his own grandson before he was born (look it up)
Too bad we never got to see Luke as the Jedi Grand Master. I would've liked to see the new republic formed and Luke's new Jedi High Council and jedi academy and new threats on the big screen. Of course it would've had to have been made by talented people instead of the frauds that made the disney abominations.
This is disturbing. Very. Very stupid reasoning of Jason. But his choice. Luke was right. Its good he associated with Krayt(he was ABSOLUTELY despised and hated by ancient Sith if you remember). In fact by every Sith ever. and Jedi. Citizens of the Republic and beyond. May the Force be with you. We walk always together in the light😊
Dude one of the most famous parts of the star wars movies is luke teaming up with _Darth_ vader to defeat palpatine this is dissapointing from such an accurete channel
I think u mean democrat. Look at ur fearless leader Biden getting snubbed from by Harris, sith taking one another out for leadership Still lost to the light side
This video would be a lot better Without those horrible AI composite images . They make no sense on the story , not to mention you dont need to use these cheap things ...
Darth Krayt is a fricking gigachad of a Sith, he survived ordeals that would have killed the vast majority of beings (like extreme torture and experimentation by the Yuuzhan Vong), even death couldn't stop him. He would always rise to fight again and literally had to be thrown into the sun to overcome him. Insane, what a total boss. I really wish we could still get more new Legends lore in addition to SWTOR.
@@punishedvenomsnake716 Vergere turned her back on krayt too
I find it very interesting how jacen and krayt never met but their fates were intertwined by Vergere
@@Badblood226
Krayt had so many obstacles to overcome during his long life, it was basically nonstop battle. Even his own lieutenant, Darth Wyyrlok III, turned on him and he still emerged triumphant.
Jacen and Krayt meeting would have been insane although Vergere indirectly bridges them as you mentioned, this vid makes me want to get back into the post-ROTJ universe lol.
Definitely one of my favorite, may the rule of one reighn!
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A top tier favorite of mine as well! All hail the Dragon of the Sith! 🔥
The funny part is that when Jacen was flow walking a skill only he n Luke can do its an esoteric Force ability he learned and saw the vision of The Throne of Balance fate determining that either of the Light would be his daughter Allana Solo or Dark Side being “the Dark Man” whom was Darth Krayt upon the Throne with Allana and Solo’s family as his slaves and the death of Luke Skywalker this vision should he not become a Sith this was the main final nail in the coffin to turn him into Darth Caedus just as much as Lumiya’s grip on him and Vergere’s influence and in the Apocalypse novel Darth Krayt is referred as “the Dark Man” same as Jacen and Luke upon wandering In the Lake of Apparitions after he and Darth Krayt defeated Abeloth he see both Mara Jade wanting to join her and be with her only for her to tell him the Galaxy still needs him and Jacen speaking to him of the Vision he got and there was nothing he could’ve done to prevent Jacen being a Sith.
One of my favorite legends stories. We need more Star Wars novels with captivating storylines like from the legends continuity. They don’t have to be canon or anything. Love the videos SW keep ‘em coming.
Luke’s ONLY Sith Alliance? His DAD. Classic Family Drama. 🤦♂
His dad, Palpatine’s Clone (sort of) and briefly co-opted the Lost Tribe.
I have a fun thought, the Dark Man was either the Dark Jedi Set Harth after learning the secrets of Darth Andeddu holocron. I believe their is enough evidence to say that he ran out of a beings capable of holding his power and was forced to imbue his life into his holocron. Its also possible that it was Darth Andeddu after taking Set Harths body and began to live purely in shadows with a small hidden but powerful army
Legends will ALWAYS RULE 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Just clean up story focus a bit. Legends should have been Templet for new Star Wars. All Disney had to do is focus on main characters while avoiding unnecessary side stories. And possibly a happier ending for Chewie and Skywalker kids.😅
The enemy of my enemy is my friend (temporarily).
True enough in war anything goes 😊
The made who created that saying WAS BEHEADED after being tricked into going to a celebration after he ended a war😂😂 so it DOESN’T work well
ONLY Sith alliance eh? We forgetting the Lost Tribe? There were a handful of Sith Luke had allied with during that time
Now it may be the only one he grew to respect but that's not the subject of the video now is it?
This would lead to a great "what if" collaboration with you and Star Wars Theory. "What if Jacen Solo did die?"
Darth Krayt. I’m just starting, thank ya stupendous 😎🫡
Great video Stupendous always love lore videos around this time period and glad that your covering it
Jacen didn't actually care that Krayt would rule the galaxy. He only cared that Allana was beside him.
And killed his aunt tried to kill his parents, tortured his cousin and court marshal his sister lied to his lover, kidnapped his daughter and threatened her and betrayed everyone who loved him.
What does any of that have to do with my comment?
@@herodaresfire4512 well he did all those things to stop the vision he saw of her standing next to the dark Lord.
My comment was a rebuttal against the OP's claim that Jacen turned because of Krayt, when it was in fact because of Allana. My comment was of Jacen's motivation, not the lengths he went to. Your comment of his actions was therefore irrelevant to my comment.
Would Jason have done what he did if the vision of the dark man ruling didn't have Alana in it?? Idk. Jason was already broken. And Lumia would have still used him. Idk. Seeing alana certainly pushed him
He fears Darth Trump. Luke hides behind twitter when he speaks. 😂
Political brain rot.
Soon Canada will fall to Darth trump….he will annex them all and force them to be the 51st state of America like he already claims they are 🤪🤦♂️
Didn't Luke also ally with some of the lost tribe sith like Vestara Khai?
True
He allied himself with vestara and gahvar khai
And Sarasu taalon
Yeah, managed to do so twice. Earlier on with a strike team when trying to trap Abeloth and later on when they went to try and finish her off (the next best thing to it without the Mortis Dagger).
This ia why Darth Marr is one of my favorite Sith and characters in SW lore. He aligned with the Jedi and Republic to take down a larger evil, Valkorion. He never had any thoughts of betrayal either, he actually had some respect for the Jedi Grand Master, Satele Shan.
Darth krayt era sinistro demais muito poderoso.
Thanks for this.
Could you do a video of the full story of haven solo fall to the dark side from the New Jedi order to the legacy of the forces final novel. From what Vergere Lumiya, Yuuzhan Vong, the embrace of pain. How he went from a liver of animals to betraying everyone who ever loved him.
Good Soldiers watch early. 🫡🫡
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You can blame some of his "doing what needs to be done" philosophy on the Yuuzhan Vong War and Vergere. The two forced Jacen to change and adapt to survive the war and return to his family. But he never truly got the healing war veterans in his position needed. Another example would be Rambo. Look at how he broke down at the end of the first movie. His time in the war severely traumatized him. Not only did he never get the proper healing, he was further traumatized in the later movies.
About time, bro!
Did Luke know that Krayt was Asharad Hett who was defeated by Obi-Wan Kenobi?
No his only interaction was the mystery of whom he was dubbed “The Dark Man” in the Apocalypse novel that fought besides him in the Lake of Apparitions and Luke wondered whom he was that he was not a Lost Tribe Sith because they didn’t believe in having tattoos and markings on themselves as Darth Krayt did ruling out his affiliation with that faction of the only Sith after The Rule Of Two so Luke didn’t know the history of Krayt in that regard only that he was in Jacen’s vision.
We out here early today gents
Essa saga Destino de jedi é foda demais abaloth vs jedi e siths porque não fizeram isso nós cinemas 😔🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Disney is too woke and dumb.😊
One of the best Sith.
Sith post Jedi are best. Some are even good guys.😅
You can’t rule a galaxy if it doesn’t exist. Jacen saw his daughter standing by Darth Krayt’s side. Jacen only delayed Krayt’s rule.
And I was JUST reading about Darth Krayt when this dropped. Eerie, but I like it.
Damn quick
You are the GOAT!
Dark Krayt became what Darth Gravid tried to do by merging Sith and Jedi teachings together not the Light and Dark.
Gravid lost his mind as he didn’t know how to be a Jedi as he, just like the Banite System dictated, became a Sith first. Krayt had the chance to take his Jedi teachings and merged it with Sith teaches especially the ancient teachings of the original Dark Jedi that were outcast on Korriban.
Though Krayt also had to go through much greater agony than mental disruptions he was able to merge Sith and Jedi together, at least in his own unique way. Perhaps that was what allowed Krayt to help Luke when Abeloth was present. Not just because she was a much greater evil but his Jedi self could’ve emerge just for a moment to help rather than dominate.
Need more vong stories. And also isn't this like where luke kinda just let shit happen krayte is an opportunities taker... I always had this question if luke really wasn't so relaxed and like hippie about everything And he really took the time to become what his father was instead of just acting like he was what he became, I don't know, I wonder how Star Wars would have kept going with him.Because if he would have been what he was supposed to be it would have been different
Jacen Solo bought them time. His actions changed the future of Allana Solo going to the darkside and standing with the "dark man" (Krayt)
Very unfortunate that he turned Dark and died. He was INSANELY powerful and actually harnassed that power by learning all kinds of techniques.
I loved the Legacy of the Force novels and wish they would have just followed those books for the sequels. I think Disney would have had to pay royalties to the authors or something because it doesn't make any sense for them to just change everything like they did.
Which novels was this story from?
Day 713 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
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"Even in evil, the sith bring their own victory"... okay "even in evil the jedi bring their own victory" is my thoughts on that, yet both exist and are stuck in their ways. A hues is a color. So...
Revan and Caedus both tell themselves they bring a sacrifice (kreia do to but for a different reason) but the dark can only fought by the jedi not by the dark jedi.
ForJacen/Kiadus he only had it PART right. I think about the ONLY Force user that can be Good aligned BUT still use Darkside abilities an power would be those Grey or neautral aligned and/OR those with a history of it. An have become wild cards or on they way back to something more balanced or light side. Like Ventress, Quen Lin Viss or Galen/Starkiller Marik. That haave roots so steeped in Dark they choose now to be Good or mostly good...ish... BUT Darkside abilities are so engrained in them they'll probably STILL be using them even at senior citizen an older ages an reaching things like GrandMaster Jedi levels.. pretty sure if ever we saw an Alternative Reality GrandMaster Jedi Starkiller hed STILL be hurling force lightning as one of his MOST deadly an signature Force attacks couple with his signature fighting style
Title is a bit click bait as you brought up kryat at the start and I love that story, he allied with the lost tribe of the sith at several points and was traveling with and working with a young sith girl from said tribe most of the series which ends with him teaming up with darth kryat, love you stories and lore dumps just wanted to toss out that bit
Another note Jason in his turn to the dark accomplished what he wanted. In the pool of knowledge Jason saw a image of darth kryat on the thrown of balance and when Luke saw it Jason's daughter sat on the thrown which he told Jason later when he saw Jason in the lake of apparitions Jason smiled when told
Luke did try to ally with the lost tribe of the sith first aigenst abeloth (They was the ones bringing it up first) but sith do what they do and attempted to backstab/betray luke
There is a few other times in history when sith and jedi did acctualy work together, like aigenst a self replicating type of drone, and there is also the sith that was managing the empire that worked together with a jedi grandmaster and ended up turning to the light. he was acctualy demed one of the least evil sith ever in several videos covering that topic, he realy belived in that empire.
Darth Krayt is the most badass sith imo
Was he not a Baneite Sith? If neither Vader, nor Sidious taught him, nor I presume his Master, where did he come from?
What comics are the abeloth storyline in?
Abeloth appeared in the ‘Fate of the Jedi’ novel series. A set of 9 books released between 2009 and 2012/13.
Jacen becoming Darth Caedus was during the ‘Legacy of the Jedi’ (should be Legacy of the Force) novel series. Which chronologically ended about 2 years earlier. Jacen had his first vision of Krayt during the NJO novel series.
Darth Krayt was featured in the ‘Legacy’ comic series by Dark Horse. Which was set roughly around 140 aby.
@ yes I’ve read all of those / I just thought maybe the the abeloth books weee turned into comics ! Thanks
@ No. Unfortunately, they only released one novel for one last adventure for the big 3 of the OT after FotJ, and finished the Legacy comics by tying up the loose ends with the One Sith, though the last issue left with something going on.
In my head canon, Abeloth returns after the end of the Legacy comics. But without the Dagger and the galaxy in disarray, they had no choice but to regroup and send most of the remaining Jedi / Force Users to Tython to wait things out to keep Abeloth from using or draining them or whatever she did with Force users. Which was probably the purpose of the Tho Yor 37,000 years earlier.
Best sith
So someone please explain because my knowledge of this period is limited(thanks disney) was krayt and his sith comparable to sideous or even the old republic era sith or after sideous did the sith really die?
Okay, when did Jacen Solo lock horns with Darth Krayt?
Jacen started having visions of a “Dark Man” sometime during the Yuuzhan Vong war I think.
Let’s gooooooooooo!!!!!!❤
I mean Luke joined the empire of Darth Brandon, so he is still working with an evil empire to this day he also tried to Kylo Ren his own grandson before he was born (look it up)
Too bad we never got to see Luke as the Jedi Grand Master. I would've liked to see the new republic formed and Luke's new Jedi High Council and jedi academy and new threats on the big screen. Of course it would've had to have been made by talented people instead of the frauds that made the disney abominations.
Legends will forever be far better than canon
Luke was Grand Master in Fate of the Jedi what are you talking about
@ninjalectualx on the big screen. Like an actual high budget movie.
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Wow
Damn
16 minutes in. Let’s go! 😅
20 seconds ago 😎
I had no idea that life could be this worthless
This is disturbing. Very. Very stupid reasoning of Jason. But his choice. Luke was right. Its good he associated with Krayt(he was ABSOLUTELY despised and hated by ancient Sith if you remember). In fact by every Sith ever. and Jedi. Citizens of the Republic and beyond. May the Force be with you. We walk always together in the light😊
Good soldiers watch early…
just for the EU
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Dude one of the most famous parts of the star wars movies is luke teaming up with _Darth_ vader to defeat palpatine this is dissapointing from such an accurete channel
Vader was redeemed as a Jedi in that moment
wow so the worst sith is just a normal republican. will do anything to save itself while destroying and sabotaging everything else. what are the odds
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I think u mean democrat. Look at ur fearless leader Biden getting snubbed from by Harris, sith taking one another out for leadership
Still lost to the light side
This video would be a lot better Without those horrible AI composite images .
They make no sense on the story , not to mention you dont need to use these cheap things ...
Thanks for the feedback, I'll take that into consideration.