The whole point of wanting an electric to sound like an acoustic is to not have to bring an extra guitar or, as in my case, to make playing a solo gig (guitar and vocal) easier on my hands. I'm 60 yo and any acoustic is more work than an electric. It's purely for practical reasons. Not so worried about the nuances and definitely don't want/need to add or haul even more stuff to a gig. For me it is a full time job and I am looking for a hack. Thanks!
66 years old. The purist in me wants to play the Martin and the Takamine. My hands say "Enough already - let's play the Tele". I totally get it and I am over feeling 'less-than' about it.
@@SeanRyan14 Just a thought for you both.. you guys should try a set of Elixer custom lights 11-52, and setup your acoustics to have a bit straighter than usual neck. I’m a full time player too, but I’m mainly an electric guy and that’s usually the work people want me for. However, during covid, small acoustic gigs were obviously the only game in town in many states, so this setup is what I came up with. The smooth feel of the string coating, and the lighter treble strings made my Breedlove ALMOST feel like an electric. Especially once the strings stretched and settled… Anyway,….My two cents.
REMEMBER: While manufacturers will say that you can go straight from the pedal into an electric guitar amp, this is not 100% true. Just the way an electric guitar amp is built, it's designed for electric guitars. So you would make your singal sound acoustic with the pedal just to send it into the guitar amp afterwards. The problem is that the pre-amp section alters the signal too much again to leave it sounding "acoustic". Possible solutions: yo DO need to amplify your signal, yes, but do it right. Solution 1: if you have the boss ac3, use the direct out into a mixing console to front of house or back to your monitor, so you can hear yourself. The mixing console, as opposed to the guitar amp won't alter the produced acoustic sound of the pedal. Solution 2: if your pedal does not have a direct out, put it in the FX loop of your amp (if it has one). That way the signal skips the pre-amp section, which makes 80% of the sound shaping, and it goes straight to the power section where it just gets amplified without adding too much coloring of the amp. Of course in the next step the type of guitar cabinet would also make a contribution to shaping the sound but again , not as much as the pre-amp does, so skip it if you can!
Dude, great job on the vid. This was a great comparison an you touched every point I’d wanna know about. Not sure if I’m gonna make a purchase yet but I’m gonna come back to this when I’m ready. Thanks man!
Neither give an original acoustic sound to me. But saying that, they both have decent clean sounds of changing tone and I might end up getting both just because one is a little darker than the other and might be beneficial depending on which guitar you are using at the time. Nice demo and I love your Ibanez!
I have the AC-3, played through a Blackstar mini amp (have yet to play it through my Laney solid-state). If you close your eyes, it really makes your electric guitar sound like an acoustic. I especially like the Jumbo, Enhance and Piezo settings.
Fyi, adding a compression pedal post sim REALLY helps alot. I am using the joyo into a TRex Neo Comp,,,,,works great, I couldn't even imagine using it without the compressor at this point
The Joyo is a great pedal.. Not exactly acoustic guitar sounding but close. Very much like a old 50's-ish hollow body electric guitar into a old Fender amplifier kind of sound. I use a Vox AD30VT. Between this pedal and my footswitch I get super acoustic-like super cleans, crunchy cleans and amp distortion.
Thank you for maing this video. I like that you thinked about the tones that you get from a humbucker and a single coil using those pedals. Great point.
I still remember I almost bought one of these years ago, brought my guitar to a local store to test, sadly it doesn't sound decent at all to my ears. I learned the hard way about how it responds to humbuckers, no one said a word about it, had to dig it myself. Anyway I ended up install a dedicated acoustic pickup instead. Good job Music Bliss for a very informative video, it is a good pedal that might serves its purpose for some, but I just hope more guitarists may get aware before buying.
@@marceloabbiatiprado4460 it's called piezo pickup, it's what manufacturers use in most acoustic-electric guitars. It won't sound exactly like a mic'd up guitar but it picks up natural acoustic signal that are meant to run through full-range speaker/acoustic amplifier, which sounds more decent than most simulators, IMHO. There are actually plenty of brands that offer various piezo-equipped bridges, check out Fishman Powerbridge or L.R. Baggs to name a few, and you can pick either tuneomatic, hardtail, or whichever bridge suits your guitar best.
The Joyo makes a loud pop (listen at 7:28) when the bypass is pushed if the volume is up high (I found other mini acoustic sim pedals do this too). I really hate pedals that do that. The Boss pedals are silent when clicking on or off the effect (because they are buffered rather than true bypass) - so I prefer to use the Boss because I like a silent pedal that doesn't make loud popping sounds.
I could get very close to the Rush Hold Your Fire piezo guitar tone using the bridge captation through the Mooer Acoustikar then to a CE-20 using the Dimensional (Dimension) D mode.
Although Boss is definitely the boss out of these two, neither one of them come close to simulating acoustic, in my opinion. My 20 something year old Zoom 505 had a better acoustic simulation. With the proper EQ and adjustments I got it to sound pretty good. Great video review though.
I need to grab one of those before Josh from JHS sends the used prices into the stratosphere I remember liking it, then caned myself for a week afterwards because shit Guitar World told me
@@rocketpigrecords3719 don't get me wrong, I love Boss. Their pedals have the most bang for the buck. But I still have my zoom 505 and it seems to have a better acoustic effect than anything else I've heard. You just have to give it a little more volume.
Believe me or not..... I had both the AC3 and the Acoustikar (Mooer) and in the end I kept the Acoustikar and passed the AC3. While using the Mooer, I almost forget I'm playing an electric guitar, but the AC3 gives me just another tone of electric guitar, got it? I've built a switch to bypass all other pedals in the chain and send the signal directly to the reverb (last one) when I need to use acoustic sounds. Ok, the Boss one already has this bypass feature, but soundwise it didn't work for me. I use Duncan Designed Caps.
Both manufacturers should be prosecuted for mis-selling, because neither product sounds like they're supposed to. Thankfully, this video saved me wasting my money.
He's running it into an amp that isn't truly clean. Aside from clean amps vs gainy amps, an electric guitar amp is gonna retweek your tone and spit it back out sounding electric. Electric guitar amps are made for electric guitars. If he ran the pedal through the effects loop, it would bypass all the tone shaping stuff and go straight to the amplifying section (best way I can describe it...I speak in lamen's terms haha). Or, running the pedal through an amp that has a truly clean tone would make the pedal work a lot better. This guy didn't fully think the pedal through before doing the demo. When used correctly, most acoustic simulators tend to work very well, actually.
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It's not just an issue of lugging around an acoustic. I'm a somewhat decent guitar player (what's two steps above beginner?) but I can't play an acoustic for shit. You have to press soooooo much harder and I've always had a light touch. Maybe it's because mine is really cheap (a $120 Yamaha with no adjustable bolt and the action way too high) but hell, search "Slash acoustic" and you'll see at least 30% of *his* notes are entirely muted and you'll see why I utterly loathe that fucking instrument. Which is why these pedals are a godsend.
I actually run both together set slightly different the joyo louder on a giant acoustic guitar and the boss as a Martin sound and run it through a flat 500w bass amp they sound close to an acoustic amp with the horn and an eq pedal then run it in stereo with the quilter 202 overdrive into the simplifier with a few pedals delay reverb
The whole point of wanting an electric to sound like an acoustic is to not have to bring an extra guitar or, as in my case, to make playing a solo gig (guitar and vocal) easier on my hands. I'm 60 yo and any acoustic is more work than an electric. It's purely for practical reasons. Not so worried about the nuances and definitely don't want/need to add or haul even more stuff to a gig. For me it is a full time job and I am looking for a hack. Thanks!
66 years old. The purist in me wants to play the Martin and the Takamine. My hands say "Enough already - let's play the Tele". I totally get it and I am over feeling 'less-than' about it.
@@SeanRyan14 Just a thought for you both.. you guys should try a set of Elixer custom lights 11-52, and setup your acoustics to have a bit straighter than usual neck. I’m a full time player too, but I’m mainly an electric guy and that’s usually the work people want me for. However, during covid, small acoustic gigs were obviously the only game in town in many states, so this setup is what I came up with. The smooth feel of the string coating, and the lighter treble strings made my Breedlove ALMOST feel like an electric. Especially once the strings stretched and settled…
Anyway,….My two cents.
REMEMBER: While manufacturers will say that you can go straight from the pedal into an electric guitar amp, this is not 100% true. Just the way an electric guitar amp is built, it's designed for electric guitars. So you would make your singal sound acoustic with the pedal just to send it into the guitar amp afterwards. The problem is that the pre-amp section alters the signal too much again to leave it sounding "acoustic".
Possible solutions: yo DO need to amplify your signal, yes, but do it right.
Solution 1: if you have the boss ac3, use the direct out into a mixing console to front of house or back to your monitor, so you can hear yourself. The mixing console, as opposed to the guitar amp won't alter the produced acoustic sound of the pedal.
Solution 2: if your pedal does not have a direct out, put it in the FX loop of your amp (if it has one). That way the signal skips the pre-amp section, which makes 80% of the sound shaping, and it goes straight to the power section where it just gets amplified without adding too much coloring of the amp. Of course in the next step the type of guitar cabinet would also make a contribution to shaping the sound but again , not as much as the pre-amp does, so skip it if you can!
that difference at 5:25 was all I needed
Which did you chose? I think the Boss has more lows and the joyo is brighter.
so you vote joyo?
I'm getting really inspired by some of the things you're playing, so thank you for that!
Just got the Joyo while hearing you play. Thanks a lot. Great video.
Dude, great job on the vid. This was a great comparison an you touched every point I’d wanna know about. Not sure if I’m gonna make a purchase yet but I’m gonna come back to this when I’m ready. Thanks man!
Neither give an original acoustic sound to me. But saying that, they both have decent clean sounds of changing tone and I might end up getting both just because one is a little darker than the other and might be beneficial depending on which guitar you are using at the time. Nice demo and I love your Ibanez!
I have the AC-3, played through a Blackstar mini amp (have yet to play it through my Laney solid-state). If you close your eyes, it really makes your electric guitar sound like an acoustic. I especially like the Jumbo, Enhance and Piezo settings.
Fantastic ! Tasteful playing, and this is a really good comparison video, too. The Joyo's got my vote ;-)
I think the Boss crunches the signal a little more, but that extra line out seems really useful
Seth Anderson he's plugged into a 6505 with an Ibanez. Of course its breaking up.
Superb video!!
First video where I waa actually interested all throughout??
Well done
Fyi, adding a compression pedal post sim REALLY helps alot. I am using the joyo into a TRex Neo Comp,,,,,works great, I couldn't even imagine using it without the compressor at this point
True...this will definitely help even out each string volume...helps tremendously when soloing....
Can you explain a bit more about this? I have a Keely comp
The Joyo is a great pedal.. Not exactly acoustic guitar sounding but close. Very much like a old 50's-ish hollow body electric guitar into a old Fender amplifier kind of sound. I use a Vox AD30VT. Between this pedal and my footswitch I get super acoustic-like super cleans, crunchy cleans and amp distortion.
Thank you for maing this video. I like that you thinked about the tones that you get from a humbucker and a single coil using those pedals. Great point.
I still remember I almost bought one of these years ago, brought my guitar to a local store to test, sadly it doesn't sound decent at all to my ears. I learned the hard way about how it responds to humbuckers, no one said a word about it, had to dig it myself. Anyway I ended up install a dedicated acoustic pickup instead. Good job Music Bliss for a very informative video, it is a good pedal that might serves its purpose for some, but I just hope more guitarists may get aware before buying.
I didnt know that there was an acustic pickup. What its the model/name plz?
@@marceloabbiatiprado4460 it's called piezo pickup, it's what manufacturers use in most acoustic-electric guitars. It won't sound exactly like a mic'd up guitar but it picks up natural acoustic signal that are meant to run through full-range speaker/acoustic amplifier, which sounds more decent than most simulators, IMHO.
There are actually plenty of brands that offer various piezo-equipped bridges, check out Fishman Powerbridge or L.R. Baggs to name a few, and you can pick either tuneomatic, hardtail, or whichever bridge suits your guitar best.
Something similar with this, hope it helps
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The Joyo makes a loud pop (listen at 7:28) when the bypass is pushed if the volume is up high (I found other mini acoustic sim pedals do this too). I really hate pedals that do that. The Boss pedals are silent when clicking on or off the effect (because they are buffered rather than true bypass) - so I prefer to use the Boss because I like a silent pedal that doesn't make loud popping sounds.
I go for an HSH pickguard on squire strats. The middle single coil was initially designed to replicate an accoustic sound.
Very nice Video and Playing !!☺🎸✌Thank You for the comparison!🎓
Your guitar is beautiful ! !!!
Not really. Have you seen the rhoads ivory? That's a beautiful guitar
I could get very close to the Rush Hold Your Fire piezo guitar tone using the bridge captation through the Mooer Acoustikar then to a CE-20 using the Dimensional (Dimension) D mode.
Rush fan! ❤️
FINALLY a guy who say about humbucker and single coil , tks for that man !!! full respect
Beautiful ...simply Beautiful!!!
Joyo sounds incredible!
Great video, and fantastic beard!
this vid come jz in time, getting boss ac 3 frm ur store soon!
Thank you sir
Although Boss is definitely the boss out of these two, neither one of them come close to simulating acoustic, in my opinion. My 20 something year old Zoom 505 had a better acoustic simulation. With the proper EQ and adjustments I got it to sound pretty good. Great video review though.
I need to grab one of those before Josh from JHS sends the used prices into the stratosphere
I remember liking it, then caned myself for a week afterwards because shit Guitar World told me
@@rocketpigrecords3719 don't get me wrong, I love Boss. Their pedals have the most bang for the buck. But I still have my zoom 505 and it seems to have a better acoustic effect than anything else I've heard. You just have to give it a little more volume.
@@magneto7930 I don't doubt it
Joyo definitely
finally found this comparison
nice video...sadly I dont like any of the pedals... but good playing and you had my thumbs up as soon as you played the alter bridge riff.
Wooden sounds .feels.looks.are sounds.great .
Great job
Wonder if an EQ in front of these would enhance the effect to any noticeable degree?
I’m going for the JOYO
Thanks for the comparison! Very helpful. :) I want to see how it will work for the Yamaha svc-210. :D And yes it's not a guitar. :D
Very nice!! Do you hear a high pop volume when turn on the Joyo?
There was no noticeable pop on the Wooden Sound....
...we've heard loud pops on the Joyo Analog delay though....
In this test Joyo's tone was more beautiful than Boss' tone
Youll have always to fell it video is lead not always the rigth answer example (eq) boss way better then a cheap eq
Believe me or not..... I had both the AC3 and the Acoustikar (Mooer) and in the end I kept the Acoustikar and passed the AC3. While using the Mooer, I almost forget I'm playing an electric guitar, but the AC3 gives me just another tone of electric guitar, got it? I've built a switch to bypass all other pedals in the chain and send the signal directly to the reverb (last one) when I need to use acoustic sounds. Ok, the Boss one already has this bypass feature, but soundwise it didn't work for me. I use Duncan Designed Caps.
are you forgot to turn the level knob on ac-3 to all the way up ?
What are you playing starting at 4:14? I can't put my finger on it
It's the solo from To Be With You by Mr Big
Hi, I'm looking for something to emulate an acoustic, but with nylon strings, any advice ?
Just got my AC3...but JOYO sounds more natural sounding.
Both manufacturers should be prosecuted for mis-selling, because neither product sounds like they're supposed to. Thankfully, this video saved me wasting my money.
Will either of these work as a preamp for a piezo transducer (disc piezo) or is the impedance too low?
neither one sound like an acoustic guitar, it just boost the highs and lows.
He's running it into an amp that isn't truly clean. Aside from clean amps vs gainy amps, an electric guitar amp is gonna retweek your tone and spit it back out sounding electric. Electric guitar amps are made for electric guitars.
If he ran the pedal through the effects loop, it would bypass all the tone shaping stuff and go straight to the amplifying section (best way I can describe it...I speak in lamen's terms haha).
Or, running the pedal through an amp that has a truly clean tone would make the pedal work a lot better.
This guy didn't fully think the pedal through before doing the demo.
When used correctly, most acoustic simulators tend to work very well, actually.
Boss by a long shot. Not to mention the fact that you can line out the boss to go through your PA
Joyo Wooden
Both are horrible at sounding like an acoustic. Nice electric clean though, but most tube amps have just as nice if not better.
The problem is that some people use way too much gain - the sound shouldn't distort, chords should sound clean and not overdriven.
Boss sounds great as an acoustic pre amp when you use an acoustic
Is the boss pedal buffered?
Randy Bailey Yes it is..!!
@@MusicBlissMalaysiaTVgood bro!
I think all Boss pedals are buffered. Obviously correct me if I am wrong.
Boss is Boss
Hey! Music bliss! GREAT JOB THANKS! Very thorough solid presentation. Be well, be joyful and be prosperous in all ways, always, Joseph A. Vargas, ICU Photo Restoration Studio, Absolute Pilates Studio and Health Center, and "THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT" Dance Art Promotion.
Lol wtf
AC + delay= wes borland-esque tone...
Im surprised that Joyo wins.
Hey it dosent sound acoustic or wooden at alllll heyyyyy don t know why but it dosen t at all it just sounds wierd
It's not just an issue of lugging around an acoustic. I'm a somewhat decent guitar player (what's two steps above beginner?) but I can't play an acoustic for shit. You have to press soooooo much harder and I've always had a light touch. Maybe it's because mine is really cheap (a $120 Yamaha with no adjustable bolt and the action way too high) but hell, search "Slash acoustic" and you'll see at least 30% of *his* notes are entirely muted and you'll see why I utterly loathe that fucking instrument. Which is why these pedals are a godsend.
Joyo gives you cleaner sound
that mustache.. is that even real or is it a sim?
MPOEROT LOL HAHA
Joyo wins
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The Joyo pedal make it sound like a bad guitar. The Boss pedal make it sound like a bad accoustic..
This is like watching someone compare two inflatable dolls to a real woman.
Not even close.
Neither sounded acoustic guitar.
Both sounded like a guitar to me...
I actually run both together set slightly different the joyo louder on a giant acoustic guitar and the boss as a Martin sound and run it through a flat 500w bass amp they sound close to an acoustic amp with the horn and an eq pedal then run it in stereo with the quilter 202 overdrive into the simplifier with a few pedals delay reverb