7075 Aluminum is half the strength of Titanium. The Sevr was the highest scoring broadhead in Lusk’s test for good reason. Josh has also shot the sevr through a car hood and cape buffalo just fine.
Yes. I remember those videos, and I was going to mention that John was a huge advocate for Sevr and Essential he just added to the already existing design, but I cut the fluff out of the video. I also like the strength of the sevr, but 7075 is some tough stuff. Also, the sevr scored higher only on durability. Beast scored way higher on sharpness and edge retention.
I’ve been shooting the SEVR 1.75 and they are absolutely phenomenal!!! Never had a broken or bent blade but just like every mechanical I’m sure it might happen someday but until then I’ll stay with SEVR at 16.99 before I’ll pay the astronomical 30$ price for the Beast!!
Really feel you will have great success with the SEVR 1.75. I shot a 300# hog at 35 yards….. complete pass through went 30 yards and died. I also picked up 3 of the new SEVR 1.5 hybrid just to try and I wish they would make the hybrid in 1.75!
the reviewer is a fan boy, one concern i have with the slowmo beast clip is deployment rate. they hang the skin to pop the broadhead about a foot away, they have the abililty to put it very close to the meat/bone to still show deployment if the broadhead can achieve it but they pick a weird distance to keep skin from meat
If I’m a “fanboy” for thinking the broadhead is a good design and will put Deer down quickly, then sure. I'm just curious: Have you purchased any to test them out, or is this another uneducated comment based on opinions rather than facts?
@riversedgeoutdoors6208 just so you know Josh literally Barely threw an arrow tipped with a beast and it barely went in and the blades deployed. They're good broadheads my worry is how big the feral is
The Beast looks pretty great, but that pricepoint though... I will say, I hit the handle rope inside of my rinehart 18-1 target and broke the little wing off my sevr and they sent me a whole replacement broadhead! Points for the customer support from Sevr.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yeah I hear you and awesome you dropped in on a set to try out, I'm just saying from a general consumer, that's gotta push a lot of people away.
I was considering running the Beast this year but I ran the 3 blade 2in Megameats last year and was the easiest blood trail I've ever followed. Kid could have followed it.
I've killed 4 nice bucks the last 3 years with the sevr 2'' and 1.5'' and none of the deer ran out of sight. They are a fantastic heads but they have one small flaw by design. When they hit the rib cage on the back side of the deer the blades pivot just like they should. Only thing is during pivot, they reduce their cutting area by as much as half when coming out of the deer, and that makes for a fairly weak blood trail. So far I've not had to use the blood trail, but if one runs off, it's going to be hell finding it.
I know you acknowledge the pivoting head is by design, but the original theory still stands: a pass through is the goal whether it's one inch or two inches or more. Even a smaller exit with a pivoted blade is better than, say, a 3 inch Shwacker with a small entry and no exit due to getting caught up or deflected in the animal.
I'm curious how people will fare with the beast Broad head and thank for your time producing this video. I feel after watching the archery market since the 80's there will be a small flurry of interest initially, but the price point is too far north in my opinion. I will watch with interest, but my pros & cons list to this comparison point straight to SEVR.
I got a dozen of the best model 207 broadheads $65 bucks and free shipping. I bought 9 dozen and will be using them for a while. Blood trails are great on elk or deer. Durability is not as good but I load a brand new broadhead Everytime.
Killed a deer and a turkey with the same Sevr. It's still very sharp, has no damage and I'm going to use it again this season. Sevr was a huge upgrade from the junk Rages that I was using.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Oh for sure! It makes me laugh when people never shot them or tested them, but still bash them. Look at those tests Josh has done, those heads are tough!
I shoot fixed because I like to reuse and it’s relaxing for me to resharpen them. But if forced to shoot a mechanical, I would use sevr based of Lusk test.
I have sevr’s and don’t use them but I think I’d use the beast broadheads. I won’t buy them at that price but I’m not into mechanicals anyways. I have a handful of fixed heads that I use.
I want to go beast but not without replacement parts and I just can’t get over the price for a two pack. Till then, I’ll stick with my faithful Magnus Stinger
@butleroutdoors2188 I get what you mean, and I appreciate the comment and for watching. Lately, the broadhead is getting a lot of hate. In my opinion, it is more about who manufactured it than the design itself, and he is just trying to show how the bone-evading technology works at avoiding bone and passing through bone, which will help with increased penetration and pass-throughs.
I purchased 5 of the Sevr 125gr to hunt for whitetail last year, but they never survived long enough to use in the hunt…. Four of them were destroyed during the first shot into the “Block” target. The blade engagement tabs snapped off when they hit the target. I used them on my crossbow shooting at 383 fps, 22 inch Black Eagle Executioner arrows, and no extra added on weight. No I didn’t shoot at an angle and No I didn’t shoot them through any other medium except for the worn out “Block” target. That was an expensive failure, I shot four broadheads one time each, they broke on the first shot (at 20 yards)…..so I won’t be wasting any more time or money on Sevr Broadheads. I suppose they would be decent for a recurve bow, but I don’t think they would be able to handle anything shooting faster than 300 fps in my opinion
I'm baffled by this. I've shot a sevr that I used for two different deer through a car door (yes, through) and besides some edge chatter, it still was fully functional. I'd almost guarantee it would still kill a deer. 100gr 1.75 out of my phase 4. 463gr arrow @292fps.
yessir I certainly believe that. I reached out to Sevr last week to ask if they could recommend a good mechanical for my crossbow setup and I explained what happened with the last set I purchased from them. They apologized to me and they’re sending me a replacement set….and that truly gets all of my respect! As far as the failures I experienced, I am now believing that I must have received a “bad batch”. I’ve watched several hundred different videos about Sevr, many were the exact model (2.0 Robusto 125gr) and every video praised Sevr broadheads. I really do want to like Sevr Broadheads, so I’m definitely going to try them again. I’ve never bashed Sevr in any videos or in any review….but I will certainly promote them and support them just based on the amazing customer support I received. They were truly exceptional to talk to…and that’s a rare trait these days. I’m excited to be able to give them another shot, hopefully they will surpass my personal opinion of them (which I think is going to be the case). Have a wonderful day and good luck on your upcoming season!
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors yessir I certainly believe that. I reached out to Sevr last week to ask if they could recommend a good mechanical for my crossbow setup and I explained what happened with the last set I purchased from them. They apologized to me and they’re sending me a replacement set….and that truly gets all of my respect! As far as the failures I experienced, I am now believing that I must have received a “bad batch”. I’ve watched several hundred different videos about Sevr, many were the exact model (2.0 Robusto 125gr) and every video praised Sevr broadheads. I really do want to like Sevr Broadheads, so I’m definitely going to try them again. I’ve never bashed Sevr in any videos or in any review….but I will certainly promote them and support them just based on the amazing customer support I received. They were truly exceptional to talk to…and that’s a rare trait these days. I’m excited to be able to give them another shot, hopefully they will surpass my personal opinion of them (which I think is going to be the case). Have a wonderful day and good luck on your upcoming season!
do yourself a favor and try a pack of swhacker original 1.75" . i think i have tried every head on the market over the past 45 years. im done trying new heads, i have came to the conclusion that the original swhacker is as close to perfection as a head can get. you can also tape them shut with 2 to 3 wraps of electrical tape and practice with the exact head you are going to hunt with. they also have the lowest profile in flight of any head on the market, for the best accuracy. i have never had a deer go out of my sight with them, and 99 percent of the time you can just touch up the blades and use it again. i have lost more on pass-through's than i have damaged. i only have had one head that got a slight wobble after a pass-through and it was buried deep in the ground, probably smacked a rock in the ground.
I would take the sevr anyday everyday over the beast.They have a stronger ferrule and dont rely on a spring to deploy.The beast you only get two ,way over priced imo.
Iam going to give the beast a try.. Does the beast take as much force to open then the sevr?? I have shot the sevr 1.5 on 5 deer and i have nothing to complain about.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors And saying the sever o rings are a disadvantage and worry about taking in and out of quiver is accurate to a point. You can also say taking the beast in and out is a huge disadvantage also because IT DULLS THE BLADES THAT ARE EXPOSED!
With the Beast, you're paying the price of a single bevel monolithic head but not getting the lifetime warranty or durability. Sever at least make their heads affordable enough to not sweat it when you break one. I can spend my money once on a single bevel broadhead like a VPA and have it forever. Backed by a no questions asked watranty. I believe the biggest reason everyone is jumping on the beast broadhea is because its innovative and has the cool factor. I dont believe they kill anymore effectively than a sever would. The lack of a new type of bone avoiding technology wasn't a problem before with the severs. If Im afraid ill hit heavy bone, ill shoot a single bevel/ heavier set up. But to stay relevant as an influencer I guess you have to jump in the hype train every time or else youl be left behind. Im just always weary of things that are being sold to solve a problem that already had a solution, the same way, but at twice the price. Thank you for the video. God bless.
You make great points, I've killed over a dz animals with sevr but more then half exit holes have been just over half the full cut size and a exit hole usually produces the most blood on the ground so half the size of entry isn't what I personally want. (I hope seve makes non pivot head) I think the beast will make full cut exits (I hope) but they are not cheap. I just killed a nice reindeer in Greenland with the new sevr hybrid and yep small exit hole compared to entry. But the fixed blades of the sevr did help with a better exit. Now just need it in 2inch cut.
The seve 1.5 gets excellent penetration, but I agree, the blood trails aren't the best. My Hybrids just showed up, and they look sweet. I can't wait to test those out as well
I disagree. I tested the sevr 2.0 when it first came out (the video is on the channel). I shot it through a 2-liter pop bottle with water, and the blades bent. Every sevr I shot is a one-and-done head. They don't bend every time, but there are times that they do.
I think all expandable heads are 1 and done..I wouldn't reuse any of them..I use a hybrid muzzy and I consider it a throwaway also..At the price I'd rather buy a new one .
i don't care for two blade broadheads. I surely wouldn't use one with pivoting blades like the Sevr. If I used a mechanical, I would explore the Grim Reaper 3 or 4 blade broadheads.
i’d personally pick the beast my opinion may be a little biased because i’m a big fan of josh bowmar but the way he talks about it and how long he worked on it and over 500 designs before he found one he liked and the proofs in the pudding he shoots huge african animals with them and it works very well
This guy makes zero sense as far as bone deflection. 😂 Titanium is also 2+ times stronger than that aluminum. There is no contest here. Several for the win.
Beast broadheads are not functional. They need a different system because the blades never cut much more than an inch. It avoids more than bones. My personal testing says they aren’t worth it. If you’re worried about hitting bone get some magnus stingers. Not a mechanical but very effective. And reusable. And Very accurate.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Ballistics Gel with a layer of cardboard frount and back and at the time a fresh deer rib in front and back. Out of 10 shots with an 80lb compound. 720gr total arrow weight. The best wound channel was 1.2” I wasn’t impressed. And anytime I hit bone on impact the blades would roll. Could be that I got a bad pair but regardless they didn’t meet expectations.
Man, I appreciate that knowledge and the fact that you are debating it with data. You're the first one. This is very insightful and will help everyone debate if this head is what they want in their quiver.
Aluminum is not tough stuff I have used sevr 1,5 and 2.0 and 1.75 I have never had any blades bend I can promise you one thing sevr is the toughest and go look at Josh video in slow motion shooting a 2 liter sprite and the beast broadhead opened up in flight so just like him I emailed him it’s like total silence of the Broadhead opened in flight you got problems I have never had any sevr blades be a issue but if they did bend I would put new ones in before I used it again now I did have a 2.0 tip bend but I was using a Ravin r29x crossbow and shot a small buck in spine quarter to me so it slammed into spine and ran down all that heavy bone deer died but that tip bent I still have it sevr sent me a envelope to send back but I have not yet but they have since redone the tip so we will see
I'll have to go back and watch that video to see if I can pinpoint the part you are referencing. Over the years, the Sevr heads have been fantastic. I have always been a huge fan of the 1.5s, but with the new Hybrids, those may be my new go-to broadheads
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors it’s a video he made with his 200 thousand dollar slow mo camera and he is shooting sprite 2 liter bottle and it opens up before impact
@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I didn't say you. I said @D_Boone didn't know the whole story about Josh and Sarah. They catch so much hate from people in and out of the hunting community and they haven't the slightest idea of what happened. Josh and Sarah are both good people. They got caught up in someone else's illegal activities. Then out of the other 95 people that were also charged that DIDN'T know they were doing anything illegal, Josh and Sarah were "high profile" and so the state of Nebraska USED them as an example! Had to pay like 200k in fines all together and do community service in a state they didn't live in. Then on top of it, Josh, unlike a lot of other people, came out on TH-cam, and said you know what I accept responsibility I should have known the law changed and baiting was no longer legal, even though we used an outfitter who was the ones doing the baiting we assumed it was legel. So they had to plead guilty to conspiracy..... They don't deserve the hate they get. Josh is a super good dude
@zachniverson8816 but claiming ignorance of the law doesn't make someone innocent. I won't support them either. Dude also burnt his truck down during a "controlled burn" lol
Still not convicted yet everyone loves to hate on the Bowmars. They helped an out fitter put out stands and bait piles when they whole visit for there hunts . They and the outfitter said they didn’t know he was setting other clients on top of the piles in off hours aka poaching. The bowman’s didn’t hunt on the piles or off hours and openly said they were just trying to lend a hand to the outfitter when they would go out and didn’t know about his side dealings. Believe that or not they were not convicted of poaching
@@mikeftball44 because they pled for a deal, that's why. Convictions don't prove anything. Many guilty people are never proven guilty in court. the 'innocent until proven guilty' claim that so many people want to throw around these days, is such a dumb line.
I think the bomar is a great head and designed well! The price is too much compared to similar heads. The sevr has been proven to be the toughest .mechanical on the market and it's less expensive.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I have 4 beast broadheads and tbh I haven’t opened the package yet. I’ve been shooting Sevrs for 3 years now with no issues. But will probably try a beast broadhead on a whitetail this year. But to answer your question. No I have not tested them.
I like how people just repeat marketing "They have German Blades, which everyone knows are great" Based on what? Surgical scalpels are made in The UK and The US. What's the proof the German blades are anything but marketing hype?
@MichiganAmBushOutdoors on the broadheads, or on German blades? The reviews on the broadheads appear to mostly be marketing repeating crap like "everyone knows German Blades are the best" and "blades open at 950 mph" or 750. Or repeating flat out lies like the bone avoiding technology, that appears to have been ripped off from VIP broadheads who have been using similar tech for years now. The few tests I've seen result in beast broadheads (a name he ripped off from an older similar design) famous German blades breaking, not retaining and edge, and blades not deploying in gel.
I've heard multiple reports about 750 and 900, and to be honest, I don't know if either is true or false, and I mentioned that in the video. As for broadheads testing, I only watch one guy, and that's Lusk, because his process for scoring broadheads is repeatable and makes the most sense to me, and in his testing, the beast survived MDF and cardboard (if I'm not mistaken) and never lost edge retention. It also survived the steel test and didn't break until it was shot at a cinderblock. My review was about a head-to-head comparison as I don't personally like destroying products I intend to use.
Ultra light arrow and a mechanical, I’m 100% expecting to see a follow up video of how you lost a big buck😂 That setup is asking for nothing but trouble.
418 grains is perfect for a white tail. Hell, MFJJ completely passed through a buffalo with that. And he was using a grim reaper mechanical. It's not about weight. It's about how much KE you're delivering to that animal. Once you hit a certain threshold of arrow weight, your bow can no longer give it more energy because of how heavy it is. Just because the arrow is heavier, doesn't mean your bow is maxing it with kinetic energy. You do have a peak. And for most set ups, that's going to peak at about 430 grains of arrow weight. You can find KE calculators everywhere to find out what your maximum is.
For example, my set up is a Mathews V3X 29, 28 inch draw, 75 lbs, 430 grain arrow. My KE is about 84.8 ft/lbs. Shooting right at 300 fps. With a 500 grain arrow, my KE would be 83.78. And arrow speed would be 275. Why in the world would I want to keep the same KE, actually a little less, but have my bow shooting 25 fps slower??? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There's no animal in North America that would require someone to have a 500 grain plus arrow to harvest.
@user-nx8kk9no3x I did not know MFJJ ran that light of an arrow. That’s great news. I did do a KE calculation and talked about it in my arrow build video but that’s for all the additional information. Good luck this season!
a couple of great heads! thanks for the review
Thank you for checking it out!
7075 Aluminum is half the strength of Titanium. The Sevr was the highest scoring broadhead in Lusk’s test for good reason. Josh has also shot the sevr through a car hood and cape buffalo just fine.
Yes. I remember those videos, and I was going to mention that John was a huge advocate for Sevr and Essential he just added to the already existing design, but I cut the fluff out of the video.
I also like the strength of the sevr, but 7075 is some tough stuff.
Also, the sevr scored higher only on durability. Beast scored way higher on sharpness and edge retention.
I’ve been shooting the SEVR 1.75 and they are absolutely phenomenal!!! Never had a broken or bent blade but just like every mechanical I’m sure it might happen someday but until then I’ll stay with SEVR at 16.99 before I’ll pay the astronomical 30$ price for the Beast!!
1.75 will be in my quiver, as will this year. I want to see how that head performs.
They were expensive, but I had to pick some up to test them out.
Really feel you will have great success with the SEVR 1.75. I shot a 300# hog at 35 yards….. complete pass through went 30 yards and died. I also picked up 3 of the new SEVR 1.5 hybrid just to try and I wish they would make the hybrid in 1.75!
I got the 1.75s also.
I am sure they will come out with it now that they have seen how well the 1.5 has done.
Great broadheads to have in the quiver.
the reviewer is a fan boy, one concern i have with the slowmo beast clip is deployment rate. they hang the skin to pop the broadhead about a foot away, they have the abililty to put it very close to the meat/bone to still show deployment if the broadhead can achieve it but they pick a weird distance to keep skin from meat
If I’m a “fanboy” for thinking the broadhead is a good design and will put Deer down quickly, then sure.
I'm just curious: Have you purchased any to test them out, or is this another uneducated comment based on opinions rather than facts?
@MichiganAmBushOutdoors oh you're a fan boy. 😂 Not gonna waste my time on this channel. 👋
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@riversedgeoutdoors6208 just so you know Josh literally Barely threw an arrow tipped with a beast and it barely went in and the blades deployed. They're good broadheads my worry is how big the feral is
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Results are everything and for me Sevr is a beast!
It performed very well.
The Beast looks pretty great, but that pricepoint though... I will say, I hit the handle rope inside of my rinehart 18-1 target and broke the little wing off my sevr and they sent me a whole replacement broadhead! Points for the customer support from Sevr.
The price is steep, but I wanted to test them to see how they are.
Sevr has been a great company to deal with over the years.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yeah I hear you and awesome you dropped in on a set to try out, I'm just saying from a general consumer, that's gotta push a lot of people away.
I agree. But if the beast were manufactured by any company other than Bowmar Archery, it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it does.
I was considering running the Beast this year but I ran the 3 blade 2in Megameats last year and was the easiest blood trail I've ever followed. Kid could have followed it.
I've killed 4 nice bucks the last 3 years with the sevr 2'' and 1.5'' and none of the deer ran out of sight. They are a fantastic heads but they have one small flaw by design. When they hit the rib cage on the back side of the deer the blades pivot just like they should. Only thing is during pivot, they reduce their cutting area by as much as half when coming out of the deer, and that makes for a fairly weak blood trail. So far I've not had to use the blood trail, but if one runs off, it's going to be hell finding it.
Thats a solid point! Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with them.
I know you acknowledge the pivoting head is by design, but the original theory still stands: a pass through is the goal whether it's one inch or two inches or more. Even a smaller exit with a pivoted blade is better than, say, a 3 inch Shwacker with a small entry and no exit due to getting caught up or deflected in the animal.
@toddzoro9831 I 100% agree and that's why I have stayed away from the Sevr 2.0s in years past.
@@toddzoro9831 Don't shoot a 3in if u don't have the nuts to get a pass thru
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I'm curious how people will fare with the beast Broad head and thank for your time producing this video. I feel after watching the archery market since the 80's there will be a small flurry of interest initially, but the price point is too far north in my opinion. I will watch with interest, but my pros & cons list to this comparison point straight to SEVR.
You can't go wrong with the Sevr. Great broadheads
SEVR’s have never done me wrong….. love the 125 grain 1.75
Great comparison match up... i picked these 2 heads to try this year. Not sure which one gets to fly first.
Thank you.
I am in the same boat. I'm not sure which one to test first. I'll have to flip a coin.
Tails: Beast / Heads: sevr 😂
The Sever head reminds me a lot of the Rocky mountain gators from years back.
They are great broadheads
Shot placement king. Serv 1.5 through 20 point heart, blood trail was 3’ wide
Amazing head but I wonder about Elk?
Sorry 10 point
I've never tested them on Elk, but many have. You could check out Aron Synder from Kifaru.
Swhacker arent as flashy as either of these, but talk to the people who use them. Theyre absolutely devastating.
I've heard great things about them.
3inch swhacker and excaliber matrix 380fps drains em fast ,my go to !!!
I got a dozen of the best model 207 broadheads $65 bucks and free shipping.
I bought 9 dozen and will be using them for a while.
Blood trails are great on elk or deer.
Durability is not as good but I load a brand new broadhead Everytime.
@johnnewcomb5162 I have to test these out soon.
Killed a deer and a turkey with the same Sevr. It's still very sharp, has no damage and I'm going to use it again this season. Sevr was a huge upgrade from the junk Rages that I was using.
100% agree. Once I stared using Sevr I never looked at another rage 😂. I picked up the sevr Hybrids to test out this year.
Great video brother. I did a video as well, so much hate in my comments too. Oh well, anyways I can’t wait to test the beast had this fall!
Thanks, man. I'll have to check the video out. I figured it would get some hate 😂
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Oh for sure! It makes me laugh when people never shot them or tested them, but still bash them. Look at those tests Josh has done, those heads are tough!
@Foreverbowhunting84 Josh's testing on live animals sold me on this. Also, Brody Turner talked about his success with them on a podcast.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yup. Same here brother. Yeah I heard Bodie talking about that with Dan. That speaks volumes too!
Here in America its pounds not Newtons.
I can tell you're not an engineer.
For 30 bucks a piece bomar can keep them for himself..screw that I'll keep doing sevr haven't broken 1 yet
Sevr are great broadheads. I shot the Hybrid, and the accuracy was as expected.
I shoot fixed because I like to reuse and it’s relaxing for me to resharpen them. But if forced to shoot a mechanical, I would use sevr based of Lusk test.
Have you checked out the Sevr Hybrid yet? Amazing broadhead
Yes. We have a review dropping tomorrow on it 😎
I have sevr’s and don’t use them but I think I’d use the beast broadheads. I won’t buy them at that price but I’m not into mechanicals anyways. I have a handful of fixed heads that I use.
Sevrs are great. If you have some, I'd encourage you to test them to see the results.
I want to go beast but not without replacement parts and I just can’t get over the price for a two pack. Till then, I’ll stick with my faithful Magnus Stinger
Replacement parts would be nice.
My biggest thing is why are we so worried about rib bones, especially on a whitetail?
I'm not. It was a good way to explain the difference between the two broadheads.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors oh, I didn’t mean that you were, but all the marketing behind the Beast is.
@butleroutdoors2188 I get what you mean, and I appreciate the comment and for watching.
Lately, the broadhead is getting a lot of hate. In my opinion, it is more about who manufactured it than the design itself, and he is just trying to show how the bone-evading technology works at avoiding bone and passing through bone, which will help with increased penetration and pass-throughs.
I purchased 5 of the Sevr 125gr to hunt for whitetail last year, but they never survived long enough to use in the hunt…. Four of them were destroyed during the first shot into the “Block” target. The blade engagement tabs snapped off when they hit the target. I used them on my crossbow shooting at 383 fps, 22 inch Black Eagle Executioner arrows, and no extra added on weight. No I didn’t shoot at an angle and No I didn’t shoot them through any other medium except for the worn out “Block” target. That was an expensive failure, I shot four broadheads one time each, they broke on the first shot (at 20 yards)…..so I won’t be wasting any more time or money on Sevr Broadheads.
I suppose they would be decent for a recurve bow, but I don’t think they would be able to handle anything shooting faster than 300 fps in my opinion
I'm surprised by that. Did you contact Sevr, and if so, what did they say?
I'm baffled by this. I've shot a sevr that I used for two different deer through a car door (yes, through) and besides some edge chatter, it still was fully functional. I'd almost guarantee it would still kill a deer.
100gr 1.75 out of my phase 4. 463gr arrow @292fps.
yessir I certainly believe that. I reached out to Sevr last week to ask if they could recommend a good mechanical for my crossbow setup and I explained what happened with the last set I purchased from them. They apologized to me and they’re sending me a replacement set….and that truly gets all of my respect!
As far as the failures I experienced, I am now believing that I must have received a “bad batch”. I’ve watched several hundred different videos about Sevr, many were the exact model (2.0 Robusto 125gr) and every video praised Sevr broadheads. I really do want to like Sevr Broadheads, so I’m definitely going to try them again. I’ve never bashed Sevr in any videos or in any review….but I will certainly promote them and support them just based on the amazing customer support I received. They were truly exceptional to talk to…and that’s a rare trait these days.
I’m excited to be able to give them another shot, hopefully they will surpass my personal opinion of them (which I think is going to be the case).
Have a wonderful day and good luck on your upcoming season!
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yessir I certainly believe that. I reached out to Sevr last week to ask if they could recommend a good mechanical for my crossbow setup and I explained what happened with the last set I purchased from them. They apologized to me and they’re sending me a replacement set….and that truly gets all of my respect!
As far as the failures I experienced, I am now believing that I must have received a “bad batch”. I’ve watched several hundred different videos about Sevr, many were the exact model (2.0 Robusto 125gr) and every video praised Sevr broadheads. I really do want to like Sevr Broadheads, so I’m definitely going to try them again. I’ve never bashed Sevr in any videos or in any review….but I will certainly promote them and support them just based on the amazing customer support I received. They were truly exceptional to talk to…and that’s a rare trait these days.
I’m excited to be able to give them another shot, hopefully they will surpass my personal opinion of them (which I think is going to be the case).
Have a wonderful day and good luck on your upcoming season!
I'll be running the 1.75 as well this year!
do yourself a favor and try a pack of swhacker original 1.75" . i think i have tried every head on the market over the past 45 years. im done trying new heads, i have came to the conclusion that the original swhacker is as close to perfection as a head can get. you can also tape them shut with 2 to 3 wraps of electrical tape and practice with the exact head you are going to hunt with. they also have the lowest profile in flight of any head on the market, for the best accuracy. i have never had a deer go out of my sight with them, and 99 percent of the time you can just touch up the blades and use it again. i have lost more on pass-through's than i have damaged. i only have had one head that got a slight wobble after a pass-through and it was buried deep in the ground, probably smacked a rock in the ground.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll have to check them out.
I would take the sevr anyday everyday over the beast.They have a stronger ferrule and dont rely on a spring to deploy.The beast you only get two ,way over priced imo.
That’s a solid point about having a potential spring failure.
Iam going to give the beast a try.. Does the beast take as much force to open then the sevr?? I have shot the sevr 1.5 on 5 deer and i have nothing to complain about.
I don't think you'll be disappointed.
It takes a pound of pressure to deploy the beast which I believe is more than the Sevr.
@michigan AmBush gotta check out the TruGlo backflip
I'll have to look into that one. Thanks for the recommendation.
I thought the sevrs swiveled around bone?
The blade do swivel
Hot tip: double up the o rings on the sevr
You can also leave an O-ring on your arrow up by your vanes.
I picked up a few not used but not brand new in the package. Noticed 2 orings on a few of them. Are they known to open with one oring?
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors And saying the sever o rings are a disadvantage and worry about taking in and out of quiver is accurate to a point.
You can also say taking the beast in and out is a huge disadvantage also because IT DULLS THE BLADES THAT ARE EXPOSED!
@indianapublicland7429 I agree and mentioned that in the video.
With the Beast, you're paying the price of a single bevel monolithic head but not getting the lifetime warranty or durability. Sever at least make their heads affordable enough to not sweat it when you break one. I can spend my money once on a single bevel broadhead like a VPA and have it forever. Backed by a no questions asked watranty. I believe the biggest reason everyone is jumping on the beast broadhea is because its innovative and has the cool factor. I dont believe they kill anymore effectively than a sever would. The lack of a new type of bone avoiding technology wasn't a problem before with the severs. If Im afraid ill hit heavy bone, ill shoot a single bevel/ heavier set up. But to stay relevant as an influencer I guess you have to jump in the hype train every time or else youl be left behind. Im just always weary of things that are being sold to solve a problem that already had a solution, the same way, but at twice the price. Thank you for the video.
God bless.
You make great points, I've killed over a dz animals with sevr but more then half exit holes have been just over half the full cut size and a exit hole usually produces the most blood on the ground so half the size of entry isn't what I personally want. (I hope seve makes non pivot head) I think the beast will make full cut exits (I hope) but they are not cheap. I just killed a nice reindeer in Greenland with the new sevr hybrid and yep small exit hole compared to entry. But the fixed blades of the sevr did help with a better exit. Now just need it in 2inch cut.
Thanks for watching.
The seve 1.5 gets excellent penetration, but I agree, the blood trails aren't the best. My Hybrids just showed up, and they look sweet. I can't wait to test those out as well
You got one thing wrong. Ain't no rib bone going to bend a sevr blade.
I disagree. I tested the sevr 2.0 when it first came out (the video is on the channel). I shot it through a 2-liter pop bottle with water, and the blades bent.
Every sevr I shot is a one-and-done head.
They don't bend every time, but there are times that they do.
I think all expandable heads are 1 and done..I wouldn't reuse any of them..I use a hybrid muzzy and I consider it a throwaway also..At the price I'd rather buy a new one .
Look at lusk archery for an actual review of these heads and many others.
@jacob11b lusk does a great job and I even say that in this video and point you to his channel.
This was a side-by-side of what each offers.
@daveyboy8907 I would agree, but we will see how this head holds up.
Wish they both had cut on contact tips
Im surprised it was the Sevr 2.0 and not the new hybrid in this comparison.
A Hybrids review is in the works 😎
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I'm looking forward to it buddy!
i don't care for two blade broadheads. I surely wouldn't use one with pivoting blades like the Sevr. If I used a mechanical, I would explore the Grim Reaper 3 or 4 blade broadheads.
I have heard really good things about the grim broadheads.
i’d personally pick the beast my opinion may be a little biased because i’m a big fan of josh bowmar but the way he talks about it and how long he worked on it and over 500 designs before he found one he liked and the proofs in the pudding he shoots huge african animals with them and it works very well
This guy makes zero sense as far as bone deflection. 😂 Titanium is also 2+ times stronger than that aluminum. There is no contest here. Several for the win.
I never said it wasn’t and I never said the beast was better than the Sevr. I simply stated the pros and cons of each.
And sevr wasn’t the first one with the locking blades… ulmer edge, Randy Ulmer is the og. Sevr bought them out.
I did not know that. Thank you for sharing that. I'll have to see what information I can find on the Ulmer Edge. I've never heard of these.
What insert/ outsert is that?
Just the stock hardware that comes with the RIP TKO arrows.
$83 US for 2 Beast Broadheads... Sad Canadian is sad.
😳😳😳 yeah that's crazy.
You actually say nothing, no testing just word salled
I'm pretty sure I explained that at the beginning of the video. If it wasn't your flavor of a review, you didn't have to waste time.
Beast broadheads are not functional. They need a different system because the blades never cut much more than an inch. It avoids more than bones. My personal testing says they aren’t worth it. If you’re worried about hitting bone get some magnus stingers. Not a mechanical but very effective. And reusable. And Very accurate.
What were you testing them on?
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Ballistics Gel with a layer of cardboard frount and back and at the time a fresh deer rib in front and back. Out of 10 shots with an 80lb compound. 720gr total arrow weight. The best wound channel was 1.2” I wasn’t impressed. And anytime I hit bone on impact the blades would roll. Could be that I got a bad pair but regardless they didn’t meet expectations.
Man, I appreciate that knowledge and the fact that you are debating it with data. You're the first one. This is very insightful and will help everyone debate if this head is what they want in their quiver.
That wasn't a really good video because you didn't tell us which one you thought was the best.
I highlighted the pros and cons but didn't explain my bad experience with Sevr 2.0.
Aluminum is not tough stuff I have used sevr 1,5 and 2.0 and 1.75 I have never had any blades bend I can promise you one thing sevr is the toughest and go look at Josh video in slow motion shooting a 2 liter sprite and the beast broadhead opened up in flight so just like him I emailed him it’s like total silence of the Broadhead opened in flight you got problems I have never had any sevr blades be a issue but if they did bend I would put new ones in before I used it again now I did have a 2.0 tip bend but I was using a Ravin r29x crossbow and shot a small buck in spine quarter to me so it slammed into spine and ran down all that heavy bone deer died but that tip bent I still have it sevr sent me a envelope to send back but I have not yet but they have since redone the tip so we will see
I'll have to go back and watch that video to see if I can pinpoint the part you are referencing.
Over the years, the Sevr heads have been fantastic. I have always been a huge fan of the 1.5s, but with the new Hybrids, those may be my new go-to broadheads
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors it’s a video he made with his 200 thousand dollar slow mo camera and he is shooting sprite 2 liter bottle and it opens up before impact
Could be the best broadhead in the world, but I still won’t give the Bowmar’s a dime.
You obviously don't know the WHOLE story
@zachniverson8816 i dont?
@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I didn't say you. I said @D_Boone didn't know the whole story about Josh and Sarah. They catch so much hate from people in and out of the hunting community and they haven't the slightest idea of what happened. Josh and Sarah are both good people. They got caught up in someone else's illegal activities. Then out of the other 95 people that were also charged that DIDN'T know they were doing anything illegal, Josh and Sarah were "high profile" and so the state of Nebraska USED them as an example! Had to pay like 200k in fines all together and do community service in a state they didn't live in. Then on top of it, Josh, unlike a lot of other people, came out on TH-cam, and said you know what I accept responsibility I should have known the law changed and baiting was no longer legal, even though we used an outfitter who was the ones doing the baiting we assumed it was legel. So they had to plead guilty to conspiracy..... They don't deserve the hate they get. Josh is a super good dude
@zachniverson8816 well put!
@zachniverson8816 but claiming ignorance of the law doesn't make someone innocent. I won't support them either.
Dude also burnt his truck down during a "controlled burn" lol
these heads are massively over-priced. and, buying them is supporting a poacher.
I dont disagree that they are pretty pricey.
Still not convicted yet everyone loves to hate on the Bowmars. They helped an out fitter put out stands and bait piles when they whole visit for there hunts . They and the outfitter said they didn’t know he was setting other clients on top of the piles in off hours aka poaching. The bowman’s didn’t hunt on the piles or off hours and openly said they were just trying to lend a hand to the outfitter when they would go out and didn’t know about his side dealings. Believe that or not they were not convicted of poaching
@mikeftball44 I'm surprised the poaching comment didn't come sooner.
@@mikeftball44 because they pled for a deal, that's why.
Convictions don't prove anything. Many guilty people are never proven guilty in court.
the 'innocent until proven guilty' claim that so many people want to throw around these days, is such a dumb line.
I think the bomar is a great head and designed well! The price is too much compared to similar heads. The sevr has been proven to be the toughest .mechanical on the market and it's less expensive.
The sevr has been good to me over the years and I will still continue to run them. I just picked up the 1.5 Hybrid. They look pretty nasty as well.
Beast is twice the price but not twice the performance.
Have you tested the Beast?
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I have 4 beast broadheads and tbh I haven’t opened the package yet. I’ve been shooting Sevrs for 3 years now with no issues. But will probably try a beast broadhead on a whitetail this year. But to answer your question. No I have not tested them.
Thats okay, I haven't either so I was curious to hear about your experiences with them.
Shooting sevrs in practice mode dulls the blades! :((
I save one for practicing, but if you shot it once to ensure it flew true and wanted to hunt with it afterward, I wouldn't think twice about it.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I thought that but once you pull it out of the target it and feel the blades they aren’t super sharp anymore:(
@aarongoeppner413 maybe it helps that I shoot one of those shitty $40 block targets off Amazon 😂
Why dodge ribs when u can put a swhacker thru em??? I want maximum damage period i dont dodge shit
Beast broadhead is poacher approved.
😂
100% . Not just poach, but lie and poach!
Wow who is the poacher?
nah, i think those are too weak we need 1 per $50 or more
😂😂
Try a G5 MegaMeat…you can thank me later.
MegaMeat have crappy blades that break quite easily. There are better choices like Grim Reaper.
That will be in my quiver as well this year.
I've heard good things about the grims.
I like how people just repeat marketing
"They have German Blades, which everyone knows are great"
Based on what?
Surgical scalpels are made in The UK and The US.
What's the proof the German blades are anything but marketing hype?
If it helps, you could check out the wealth of information available through various sources that showcase their performance and durability.
@MichiganAmBushOutdoors on the broadheads, or on German blades?
The reviews on the broadheads appear to mostly be marketing repeating crap like "everyone knows German Blades are the best" and "blades open at 950 mph" or 750.
Or repeating flat out lies like the bone avoiding technology, that appears to have been ripped off from VIP broadheads who have been using similar tech for years now.
The few tests I've seen result in beast broadheads (a name he ripped off from an older similar design) famous German blades breaking, not retaining and edge, and blades not deploying in gel.
I've heard multiple reports about 750 and 900, and to be honest, I don't know if either is true or false, and I mentioned that in the video. As for broadheads testing, I only watch one guy, and that's Lusk, because his process for scoring broadheads is repeatable and makes the most sense to me, and in his testing, the beast survived MDF and cardboard (if I'm not mistaken) and never lost edge retention. It also survived the steel test and didn't break until it was shot at a cinderblock.
My review was about a head-to-head comparison as I don't personally like destroying products I intend to use.
Both trash
Already saw the beast head perform less than ideal shooting through a soft mushy gel block....
Keep that overpriced garbage !!!
Ultra light arrow and a mechanical, I’m 100% expecting to see a follow up video of how you lost a big buck😂 That setup is asking for nothing but trouble.
We will see. My complete arrow build will be 418 grains
418 grains is perfect for a white tail. Hell, MFJJ completely passed through a buffalo with that. And he was using a grim reaper mechanical. It's not about weight. It's about how much KE you're delivering to that animal. Once you hit a certain threshold of arrow weight, your bow can no longer give it more energy because of how heavy it is. Just because the arrow is heavier, doesn't mean your bow is maxing it with kinetic energy. You do have a peak. And for most set ups, that's going to peak at about 430 grains of arrow weight. You can find KE calculators everywhere to find out what your maximum is.
For example, my set up is a Mathews V3X 29, 28 inch draw, 75 lbs, 430 grain arrow. My KE is about 84.8 ft/lbs. Shooting right at 300 fps. With a 500 grain arrow, my KE would be 83.78. And arrow speed would be 275. Why in the world would I want to keep the same KE, actually a little less, but have my bow shooting 25 fps slower??? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There's no animal in North America that would require someone to have a 500 grain plus arrow to harvest.
@user-nx8kk9no3x I did not know MFJJ ran that light of an arrow. That’s great news.
I did do a KE calculation and talked about it in my arrow build video but that’s for all the additional information.
Good luck this season!
@user-nx8kk9no3x I agree. The heaviest I have ever run is 470 grains which I thought was too heavy for my setups.