Hopefully Springfield will import these and give it a sweet name like Beelzebubs tactical taint. I can hear the voice over now on the commercial that will play before a mailroom vid.
That’s a f’n great idea. I see a few places online that have them for $2k or so… expensive but I’d like to see a long term test on it to see accuracy and durability.
The longest term review online so far is by kit badger. Sage Dynamics also did a review. I believe the default barrel from importer AEA is by Walther Lothar. The thing is, you can put whatever AR15 barrel in it. Criterion, BA, Triarc, etc.
The dude's talking about the design man... Why do you "enthusiasts" have to be so dense sometimes? I saw the gun, I immediately remembered the SCAR. Good Lord.
@@COLT_Chrisbecause the SCAR is an overpriced and poorly engineered hunk of scrap. Go take a look at the AR-180, the ACR, the G36, or even the BREN 2. Those guns have so much more thought put into them than the SCAR, but because FN improved the STG44 and called it the FAL, they get more credit than they deserve.
It’s basically a unbullpuped Tavor with heavy interchangeability with the AR-15 and some interchangeability with the SCAR in terms of its stock (that’s really it). If it came to the U.S. market imo it’d sell like hotcakes due to the interchangeability with the AR since that means a large part of the AR aftermarket is available to the Perun X16.
Honestly, James does a great job in these interviews/interactions. He listens well and he asks important questions (especially for n00bs like me). Great content. 👍🙂
I'd say the most interesting part of the system is the 2nd rod in the contained bolt - bolt carrier - recoil spring assembly. It locks the bolt from the moment after it's unlocked & all the way through the return stroke. As a result, the cam pin isn't trying to rotate and grind on the receiver like on the AR, increasing the longevity of the receiver ( I think ). I believe a similar rod is also in the VHS-2/Springfield Hellion, doing the same job. Edit: Idiot me said bolt grinding on receiver. Now fixed
@@ramzankadyrov6035 incorrect. Rotating cam pins (bearing/bushing) Carrier twist. Tilt mitigation buffers Upper and carrier track milling The force is amplified in an external piston system, but all have the capability of beating the upper to death.
“The AR poops where it eats” this is my new favorite IWA video, what a champ. I’d try to spell his name but that might be a hate crime. Thanks James and crew.
Love my Perun. I bought one right when they came out and another recently. They’re seriously sick guns and I re-barreled one for 300blk. I highly recommend. My only complaint is the insane tightness with which they torque their barrel nuts down. I heated many times with a torch, soaked overnight several times, and even brought it to the best gunsmith in my area. They couldn’t break it. Finally, they said they’d attach a pipe to the wrench but they made me promise I wouldn’t blame them if the receiver got fcked. Finally, they got the nut off. Sure, it fcked my received alignment, but eventually I bent it back to near spec. They’ve evolved a lot over the past couple years so I’m hoping they’ve worked through that. With all that barrel nut bullsht, I still love these guns. They run like a fcking spotted ape.
The 308 version is available for pre-order at this time. All versions that I found are all 16” too. I believe that the price is also just for the upper. Do a quick search, you’ll find them. I’d post the link, but between TH-cam and scammers, it’s bound to get flagged or used by some criminal.
So it's an Advanced ACR. I like it, there are a few similar products out there BRN-180 and FM-15. This thing has some unique features compared to those albeit with a proprietary lower. That gas system is dope AF.
@@Gl0ckb1te the BRN180 is entirely short stroke gas piston whereas the perun is a true hybrid short stroke gas piston and DI system. Basically it uses a shortened gas tube and makes the short stroke piston act like a gas key. The upside to it is the piston doesn't retract all the way into the reciever(like he said in the vid the piston only moves about 12mm) so the reciever doesn't get gasses and fouling punched back into it. A DI system is inherently more accurate than a ssgp rifle so making s properly functioning hybrid of the 2 would in theory make this rifle more accurate than a strictly ssgp gun but much cleaner running(and by extention more reliable) than a DI gun. This is more or less a very happy medium between systems. I have yet to get my hands on one for my own testing but everything I've read and watched seems to be overwhelmingly positive about the perun
This is a really, really cool rifle. Not really $2700 worth of cool IMO, but if I could afford it, I’d want one. I feel like the major expense is the tooling and machining setup for the upper (because the rest of it is mostly stock AR parts), so if that starts coming down in price, I’ll get VERY interested, VERY fast.
@@AZBADBOYz 2k is too expensive for what is essentially an upgraded gas piston AR. Not to even mention how many gas piston bullpups are out there in a highly competitive rifle market.
If they sold the uppers it would be huge for the 3d printing market. One of the hardest parts of printing is the buffer tube hole on the lower. I want one.
this looks seriously cool. Im all for the tried and true and battle tested platforms, but seeing this tweaking innovation is really exciting. Would love to get my hands on one eventually
If they sold something like an essential parts kit it'd sell like hotcakes, I'm sure a lot of guys would be all over the idea of building out one of these with their own parts.
That really is an awesome setup. They come in .308 also. And you can get a non-folding adapter to tube. 308 = 9lbs, 5.56 = 6.8lbs. So not terribly heavy. I would def like to get one.
It's amazing how ahead of the times Eugene Stoner was. He invented the Ar-18 like 50 years ago and the operating system is still tje most advanced system firearms companies can come up with...
And the AR-15. Which is probably more widely used, and a simpler design.. I don't own any piston guns so I don't know how much better they are, but I also don't own any suppressors.
@@1111111111202 In what way? Weapons engineering is one of the things where politics matters the least I would think. Anything we create that improves weapons or offers an advantage is immediately adopted to try and stay ahead of any potential rival states and their corporations.
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That is a cool system. I've always been an AK guy because growing up in altitude in the NW ARs struggle a little bit especially in the deep cold and hot dusty but you have to be a certain build and height to have the very specific ergonomics of any AK to enjoy it. My wife is 5'1" and outside of a 5.45 Krink which the ATF, well you know the story, ruined. This hybrid DI/piston might be one of those fringe ideas that before we know it will become mainstream. I already have the PSW in 7.62 but I really like this innovation and may be getting more into ARs if stuff like this keeps showing up.
They should look into the Canadian market. The AR15 is recently banned here buy you can own at 180, and x95 and type 81 or type 97 etc. This might be different enough from an at 15 to be fully legal in Canada.
Would be incredible if they sold "build" kits with the only thing missing being the lower receiver group. It has to be simpler to import those to the US than the full gun, and then all we'd need is some good specs or a jig to convert a standard lower to be compatible with the upper. I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Great interview!!! Identified the presenter’s nervousness and gave him room, time, and subtle queues which assisted him in presenting what really appears to be A Real Upgrade to Stoner’s original idea. Masterful class of interviewing
Actually loving the higher up upper rail part with the little step down area in front of the front sight…. Beautiful spot for a light to be mounted!! I mean the whole thing is pretty nifty, but that’s just a great added feature in my opinion. 👍😎
It was meant so you could mount your laser system on the handguard without it being in the way of you optics. The rail on the receiver extending forward also makes it function like a monolithic upper.
Having so much AR compatibility is perfect. The bolt carrier piston group thing looks a lot like the X95s internals but this is better because of the AR lower.
So it's a short stroke piston, but it just has a gas tube instead of an action rod. Pretty interesting and simple idea that combines the piston and bolt; being built into the carrier, effectively reducing parts but still keeping the function. Very cool on paper. I wish they would have integrated a way to adjust the gas. Possibly by pinning a little cup in the front of the piston, that can have different sized vent holes, and you can pull the bolt out and spin the cup and adjust the gas. Should be an easy upgrade later too, or for the aftermarket. super interesting as a base design, and easy to build upon.
I like that there are designs coming out that are very well thought out like this. This seems like a good compromise between the benefits of short stroke piston but keeps the front end lighter and has a rail set up specifically for illumination. Has the cross compatability and economy of scale from the AR-15. I hope it works out for them.
Having the Piston further back with the gas tube funneling gas back to it has the advantage of extra built in dwell time. The gas isn’t immediately acting on the piston like when it’s right above the gas port on most systems. It’s probably softer shooting than other short stroke systems I would guess.
need a bullpup version asap. If they car figure out the trigger, i think this hybrid DI piston would work well. Maybe give the bcg more travel for several reasons. 1. less recoil 2. faster reloading= mag would be slightly further 3. transitioning to opposite side would be more comfortable as the brass and gas can eject a little further forward from the face 4. theoretically slighly better trigger as the tigger bar would be a little sorter because the striker and actual trigger would be closer together Example the tavor 18 ich without the butt padd comes in at 26 inches A desing with a 16 inch barrel and 26 inch total lengh would still not be considered an sbr and give you 2 extra inches of play.
Looks wise this is immediately up there with the SCAR16 and HK433 among modern AR-15/18 derivatives for me. That pseudo integrated handguard looks great.
Other DI rifles like the Ljungman and MAS-49 also didn't vent gas into the bolt carrier, just at the front the front of the piece. Those guns have a cup there that fits over the end of the gas tube.
I've never actually seen the operating mechanism, just people talking about it. Really cool, sets it apart from all the modernized ar-18s on the market
Honestly I don't know why everybody's talking shit this is the biggest advancement I've seen for the AR-15 rifle in my entire life and you can guarantee once I get the money I'm buying one of those!
It looks like an improved copy of the old Magpul Masada rifle. The way he striped it down for cleaning reminds me of videos of that rifle! Putting that aside, I just want to see this available in the US market!
Ahh they improved upon the CZ Bren2 ms modular system and made it so we actually can modify and find parts easy enough. Love my Bren.. I’ll definitely buy one of these without a doubt!
The x16 is surely an interesting rifle, but I'll keep my proven & reliable IWI x95. (Although, if the price on the X16 dropped DRAMATICALLY, then I'd look to pick one up. $2,700 is a lot for something with no track record.)
This looks like it might give me another option to think about when i get my next rifle: Bren 2 or the X16............. As i guy who likes to be different and have things different from most of other people, i love the design already. And that they made it so you can get your own parts mostly if u wanna change something thats also a great bonus. Not just Americans would love it, us Europeans too ^-^
It really is a brilliant way to get pretty far from the AR rifle, while maintaining so much parts compatability. Very clever. The only real downside as an American AR owner is that yiu are stuck with only one upper.
@@justinkase1360 That is the biggest reason i am looking to get a regular AR first. So that i have a .223 but can also just change the upper and use it as a PCC or if i wanted a .22 And have the extra option of using it with FX if that comes across. But to have a dedicated .223 like this i would not mind also. It's the same....but different ^-^
people are concerned with the action getting fouled in DI but thats where it shines. Internal piston blows away debris foreign and domestic which adds in the reliability. Keeping it gas operated halfway down the gas system then making it operating rod cycled removes the debris rejecting feature of the original ar15. I disagree with this being an upgraded eugene stoner system.
So....to recap, this is basically an AR-15 with a slightly heightened upper receiver to accommodate a compact recoil spring, bolt, and a short stroke semi-internal piston assembly that uses a standard gas tube as its gas feed source. Sounds cool on paper, not sure that it will yield significant benefits (other than the shortened recoil system similar to the AR-180) in regards to reliability or cleanliness, since that piston is still very close the overall bolt assembly and internals. Interesting though. Would be another fun option.
I think I've said it before, but I love this design & I only wish you could use standard AR lowers without having to saw off the buffer tower. If they could tweak the design just enough to accommodate that, I think this thing would sell like hotcakes.
I agree. They brag about AR modularity, yet it's not compatible with almost all standard AR lower receivers. A clear design flaw for the market their aiming for if you ask me.
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Hopefully Springfield will import these and give it a sweet name like Beelzebubs tactical taint. I can hear the voice over now on the commercial that will play before a mailroom vid.
And then claim that they make them lol
They should call it the Psoglav
I fucking hope so. And it better be called the taint.😂
Was thinking the same thing haha
@@bolognatony8739 honesty James's cats could probably crap out a better name than what springfield comes up with
That’s a f’n great idea. I see a few places online that have them for $2k or so… expensive but I’d like to see a long term test on it to see accuracy and durability.
Accuracy will depend upon barrel and attachment, but since that is all AR 15 I would expect the same accuracy as whatever barrel you have on it.
The longest term review online so far is by kit badger. Sage Dynamics also did a review. I believe the default barrel from importer AEA is by Walther Lothar. The thing is, you can put whatever AR15 barrel in it. Criterion, BA, Triarc, etc.
You can also get them as a DIY kit (without barrel and gas tube, which you'll need to modify) for like $800.
The price will come down to compete with that Daniel Defense money's 💰 🤑 💸
I saw what you did there. 😄
I love seeing other countries' take on the SCAR. And I really love how many AR parts this one uses!
This is way different than the SCAR though. Lighter weight and has most of the advantages of the AR-15 that the SCAR doesn't.
No buffer tube =/= scar clone
The dude's talking about the design man... Why do you "enthusiasts" have to be so dense sometimes?
I saw the gun, I immediately remembered the SCAR. Good Lord.
@@COLT_Chrisbecause the SCAR is an overpriced and poorly engineered hunk of scrap.
Go take a look at the AR-180, the ACR, the G36, or even the BREN 2.
Those guns have so much more thought put into them than the SCAR, but because FN improved the STG44 and called it the FAL, they get more credit than they deserve.
It’s basically a unbullpuped Tavor with heavy interchangeability with the AR-15 and some interchangeability with the SCAR in terms of its stock (that’s really it).
If it came to the U.S. market imo it’d sell like hotcakes due to the interchangeability with the AR since that means a large part of the AR aftermarket is available to the Perun X16.
Love how patient and respectful you are with the man explaining the gun even helping him out with words he was struggling with 10/10
Honestly, James does a great job in these interviews/interactions. He listens well and he asks important questions (especially for n00bs like me). Great content. 👍🙂
Ah yass, tune in for the sexy 1988 H.S. Gym Teacher shorts & stay for the great questions....🩷
I'd say the most interesting part of the system is the 2nd rod in the contained bolt - bolt carrier - recoil spring assembly. It locks the bolt from the moment after it's unlocked & all the way through the return stroke. As a result, the cam pin isn't trying to rotate and grind on the receiver like on the AR, increasing the longevity of the receiver ( I think ).
I believe a similar rod is also in the VHS-2/Springfield Hellion, doing the same job.
Edit: Idiot me said bolt grinding on receiver. Now fixed
Also makes it easier to create a 3D printed lower since there is less to no stress on it.
The bolt never touches the inside of an AR upper, also the carrier doesn’t rotate at all. Are you referring to the cam pin??
@@ramzankadyrov6035 incorrect.
Rotating cam pins (bearing/bushing)
Carrier twist. Tilt mitigation buffers
Upper and carrier track milling
The force is amplified in an external piston system, but all have the capability of beating the upper to death.
@@PBVader dude, he said the bolt rotates and grinds on the upper. So all I said was, the bolt doesn’t ever touch the upper.
Which it doesn’t. Lol. Tf
@@PBVader the hell are you replying to 😂😂😂😂
“The AR poops where it eats” this is my new favorite IWA video, what a champ. I’d try to spell his name but that might be a hate crime. Thanks James and crew.
Love my Perun. I bought one right when they came out and another recently. They’re seriously sick guns and I re-barreled one for 300blk. I highly recommend. My only complaint is the insane tightness with which they torque their barrel nuts down. I heated many times with a torch, soaked overnight several times, and even brought it to the best gunsmith in my area. They couldn’t break it. Finally, they said they’d attach a pipe to the wrench but they made me promise I wouldn’t blame them if the receiver got fcked. Finally, they got the nut off. Sure, it fcked my received alignment, but eventually I bent it back to near spec. They’ve evolved a lot over the past couple years so I’m hoping they’ve worked through that. With all that barrel nut bullsht, I still love these guns. They run like a fcking spotted ape.
That action is beautiful!!!
This is the the most impressive design I've seen! All the advantages of the Stoner system without any of the drawbacks.
That operating mechanism actually looks really cool. Could have the weight of DI (or "internal piston"), but the cleanliness of long-stroke.
Not sure. The piston is above the bolt, so gasses are still released inside the receiver.
@@JippaJ didn’t he say it releases out the front? The gases?
It's literally just a shortstroke piston. The piston up front moves a few mm to give the bolt carrier group momentum.
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 exactly it's short stroke but with a shorter piston and a gas tube after the gas block.
This is the perfect mechanism. DI w/ short-stroke. Clean, accurate, reliable and even a face free of gas when using cans.
Wow, this rifle look great, simple and absolutely reliable. I would love to try one, and i would love to see a 308 version of it :)
The 308 version is available for pre-order at this time. All versions that I found are all 16” too. I believe that the price is also just for the upper. Do a quick search, you’ll find them. I’d post the link, but between TH-cam and scammers, it’s bound to get flagged or used by some criminal.
@@teesimpson3872 Thank you for the information.
@@ExhumedButhcer Ask & ye shall receive. Put it to good use.
So it's an Advanced ACR. I like it, there are a few similar products out there BRN-180 and FM-15. This thing has some unique features compared to those albeit with a proprietary lower. That gas system is dope AF.
The BRN-180 is amazing and I think is the way to go.
@@brianwebb1984 whats different with the brn bolt/gas piston wise
Bren 2
Nothing will replace the look of the ACR, but this one is really close and looks better than all the other comparable style rifles I've seen so far.
@@Gl0ckb1te the BRN180 is entirely short stroke gas piston whereas the perun is a true hybrid short stroke gas piston and DI system. Basically it uses a shortened gas tube and makes the short stroke piston act like a gas key. The upside to it is the piston doesn't retract all the way into the reciever(like he said in the vid the piston only moves about 12mm) so the reciever doesn't get gasses and fouling punched back into it. A DI system is inherently more accurate than a ssgp rifle so making s properly functioning hybrid of the 2 would in theory make this rifle more accurate than a strictly ssgp gun but much cleaner running(and by extention more reliable) than a DI gun. This is more or less a very happy medium between systems. I have yet to get my hands on one for my own testing but everything I've read and watched seems to be overwhelmingly positive about the perun
This is a really, really cool rifle. Not really $2700 worth of cool IMO, but if I could afford it, I’d want one.
I feel like the major expense is the tooling and machining setup for the upper (because the rest of it is mostly stock AR parts), so if that starts coming down in price, I’ll get VERY interested, VERY fast.
$2K at Rainier Arms.
@@AZBADBOYz 2k is too expensive for what is essentially an upgraded gas piston AR. Not to even mention how many gas piston bullpups are out there in a highly competitive rifle market.
I think the innovative aspect of it is worth it alone,more than a 4k DD pos.
@@Arnuld15Governator 99% of bullpups are for female dogs
looks more like the ACR to me
Brilliant engineering. With the death of the piston Rec7 this offering is super compelling!
Why would you want a piston Rec7?
There are companies that make short stroke piston rifles of high quality. HK, LWRCI, LMT all come to mind immediately, not just Barrett.
@@Totemparadox Barrett has the patent on a single piece piston. Less to break. Plus I like supporting Tennessee companies
@@davism131 So just get a DI Rec7.
SIG 516
This has been my dream rifle for the last year.
If they sold the uppers it would be huge for the 3d printing market. One of the hardest parts of printing is the buffer tube hole on the lower. I want one.
They do sell just the uppers.
And they're expensive
this looks seriously cool. Im all for the tried and true and battle tested platforms, but seeing this tweaking innovation is really exciting. Would love to get my hands on one eventually
Ok I’m actually excited about this 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Great to see this kind of innovation going on!
It's a simple idea that seems so obvious after seeing it. Combine the piston with the bolt.. wow. Very cool.
If you've ever smashed that refresh button waiting for another TFB video to drop, go ahead and hit that Like button.
This isn’t the flannel tryhard
@@Sig_P229Works harder than you.
@@AJohnSmith so does a washing machine, yet I was a higher rank than him getting out of the service. I also make 6 figures. Work smarter not harder.
@@Sig_P229 The comment section is out of control and I cant do anything to prevent it.
@@Sig_P229 it would be better if you didn’t even start this conversation, only made yourself a laughingstock
Looks awesome. Love that simplicity.
If they sold something like an essential parts kit it'd sell like hotcakes, I'm sure a lot of guys would be all over the idea of building out one of these with their own parts.
They do, it's like 800 bones
@@victorkreig6089 neato
@@Zeddeck oh shit didn't even realize your pfp was a skeleton
@@victorkreig6089 Where are you seeing it for 800? The lowest I see for the parts kit is 1209. Maybe they upped the price after this video?
@@victorkreig6089 thanks for the info bro
That really is an awesome setup. They come in .308 also. And you can get a non-folding adapter to tube. 308 = 9lbs, 5.56 = 6.8lbs. So not terribly heavy. I would def like to get one.
Wow.. James great interview and a rifle i would enjoy seeing you review.. thanks
Very promising design. Wonder how it holds up to a reliability/durability test? Should be accurate like the AR.
He said there were people who had shot over 20000 rounds thru it.
Fantastic engineering!
Very cool. Love the use of AR components on a bufferless setup. Absent real-world testing, this looks very good.
It's amazing how ahead of the times Eugene Stoner was. He invented the Ar-18 like 50 years ago and the operating system is still tje most advanced system firearms companies can come up with...
And the AR-15. Which is probably more widely used, and a simpler design..
I don't own any piston guns so I don't know how much better they are, but I also don't own any suppressors.
alot of it is politics.
@@1111111111202 In what way? Weapons engineering is one of the things where politics matters the least I would think.
Anything we create that improves weapons or offers an advantage is immediately adopted to try and stay ahead of any potential rival states and their corporations.
Tinck Arms - if you are reading comments, first if all thank you for your great offering in the US market! Secondly, please consider donating to pro 2A organizations who continue to fight legal battles for our right to keep and bear arms.
That is a cool system. I've always been an AK guy because growing up in altitude in the NW ARs struggle a little bit especially in the deep cold and hot dusty but you have to be a certain build and height to have the very specific ergonomics of any AK to enjoy it. My wife is 5'1" and outside of a 5.45 Krink which the ATF, well you know the story, ruined. This hybrid DI/piston might be one of those fringe ideas that before we know it will become mainstream. I already have the PSW in 7.62 but I really like this innovation and may be getting more into ARs if stuff like this keeps showing up.
"people in America will love the simplicity". Excellent subtle dig at our education system.
Oh, yes. I'll be grabbing one! 😍😍
That is a really fascinating design. I love simplified
That looks like a great candidate for a monolithic polymer lower.
Already tested.
I was going to say with a monolithic polymer lower this would be almost perfect.
They should look into the Canadian market. The AR15 is recently banned here buy you can own at 180, and x95 and type 81 or type 97 etc. This might be different enough from an at 15 to be fully legal in Canada.
Would be incredible if they sold "build" kits with the only thing missing being the lower receiver group. It has to be simpler to import those to the US than the full gun, and then all we'd need is some good specs or a jig to convert a standard lower to be compatible with the upper. I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Perun is also by far the best military TH-cam channel
Wow, this looks great. I like it. Definitely needs to be tried in the US.
Great interview!!! Identified the presenter’s nervousness and gave him room, time, and subtle queues which assisted him in presenting what really appears to be A Real Upgrade to Stoner’s original idea.
Masterful class of interviewing
That is acutally innovative and intetesting
I am usually not about the FDE but this would look really good in a Multi Tone FDE.
My favorite shade is Baby Cack Brown.
Or a Fde/olive combo !.
@@DJJAW11 I'd say more like an olive and black.
@@stevenbobbybills Granted I am a quirky Englander, I can only imagine/dream 🇬🇧🇺🇸☺️🥴
Actually loving the higher up upper rail part with the little step down area in front of the front sight…. Beautiful spot for a light to be mounted!! I mean the whole thing is pretty nifty, but that’s just a great added feature in my opinion. 👍😎
It was meant so you could mount your laser system on the handguard without it being in the way of you optics. The rail on the receiver extending forward also makes it function like a monolithic upper.
James, you are the best
And this rifle is sick too
Interesting gun. A mix of AR15 and CZ Bren.
Barrel and bolt swap and 6.8SPC is back in business. And you get to keep your triggers. NICE.
Needs a bayonet mount.
Having so much AR compatibility is perfect. The bolt carrier piston group thing looks a lot like the X95s internals but this is better because of the AR lower.
Slovenia is the new Czech Republic in the gun world. They're making high quality, well engineered firearms, that are unique on the market.
So it's a short stroke piston, but it just has a gas tube instead of an action rod. Pretty interesting and simple idea that combines the piston and bolt; being built into the carrier, effectively reducing parts but still keeping the function. Very cool on paper. I wish they would have integrated a way to adjust the gas. Possibly by pinning a little cup in the front of the piston, that can have different sized vent holes, and you can pull the bolt out and spin the cup and adjust the gas. Should be an easy upgrade later too, or for the aftermarket. super interesting as a base design, and easy to build upon.
It uses standard AR15 gas blocks, so you can just get an adjustable gas block for it.
Is sold in the US with adjustable gas blocks.
that's a pretty cool design, hope if takes off here in the states.
I like that there are designs coming out that are very well thought out like this. This seems like a good compromise between the benefits of short stroke piston but keeps the front end lighter and has a rail set up specifically for illumination. Has the cross compatability and economy of scale from the AR-15. I hope it works out for them.
I've been interested in these. I just wish they would have keep the original metal lower and not swapped it for a plastic one during importation
Having the Piston further back with the gas tube funneling gas back to it has the advantage of extra built in dwell time. The gas isn’t immediately acting on the piston like when it’s right above the gas port on most systems. It’s probably softer shooting than other short stroke systems I would guess.
need a bullpup version asap. If they car figure out the trigger, i think this hybrid DI piston would work well. Maybe give the bcg more travel for several reasons.
1. less recoil
2. faster reloading= mag would be slightly further
3. transitioning to opposite side would be more comfortable as the brass and gas can eject a little further forward from the face
4. theoretically slighly better trigger as the tigger bar would be a little sorter because the striker and actual trigger would be closer together
Example the tavor 18 ich without the butt padd comes in at 26 inches
A desing with a 16 inch barrel and 26 inch total lengh would still not be considered an sbr and give you 2 extra inches of play.
Looks wise this is immediately up there with the SCAR16 and HK433 among modern AR-15/18 derivatives for me. That pseudo integrated handguard looks great.
Other DI rifles like the Ljungman and MAS-49 also didn't vent gas into the bolt carrier, just at the front the front of the piece. Those guns have a cup there that fits over the end of the gas tube.
Casually just pulls him over back to the table was gold.😂😂 I feel bad, he was so nervous.
This reminds be a lot of the ACR. Looks super cool and I bet it's fun to shoot.
Cool interview, exactly the questions I would ask myself and good straightforward answers.
I ordered a builders kit last week. Still waiting on it at my FFL but man I'm excited
This is a great video. Looking forward to seeing these stateside
Always bringing the latest and greatest. Can't wait to see that in action in a future TFB vid .😉😉
Nice to see a fresh interpretation of the type.
James , to be honest with you, this is the first gun you have shown in about a year, that is actually interesting. JS
I would say backhanded complement, but I think it's all backhand, lol.
Excellent video - it would be nice to hear an update on the X17 - could you provide it ? Thx for your nice videos from IWA !
Slovenia keeps developing awesome weapons to the market that provide more development and options as well as innovation. ♠️🎩🎯🎱🏁🇺🇦🔱🌻🌼🌸💮🏴☠️🇺🇲
This looks very interesting. Has a really well resolved feel to the design.
Looks like the x95 bolt carrier group. Super reliable and easy to maintain!
That's amazing! Love the design!
I've never actually seen the operating mechanism, just people talking about it. Really cool, sets it apart from all the modernized ar-18s on the market
You James have a lot of realy nice guns to review from IWA, that's really cool
I'm not in a hurry to get this in 5.56, but damn this would be a beautiful 300 BLK gun. A product to rise to the top.
Honestly I don't know why everybody's talking shit this is the biggest advancement I've seen for the AR-15 rifle in my entire life and you can guarantee once I get the money I'm buying one of those!
We need this in Canada ASAP!
looks amazing, functions seems amazing!
Neatest item so far! All they'll have to do is import everything but the lower! We can just use a cutting wheel on receiver extension tower I assume?
The need to send you one of these. Super cool!
It looks like an improved copy of the old Magpul Masada rifle.
The way he striped it down for cleaning reminds me of videos of that rifle!
Putting that aside, I just want to see this available in the US market!
Rainier Arms has two in stock now for $2,059...
This rifle also produces some of the best conflict analysis related information on TH-cam.
I like it. I would like to see a 308 pistol version with a 13 inch barrel.
It is available for pre-order.
Looks like the perfect platform for a bullpup configuration.
They almost kissed at the end. After the pink gun comment...
Really cool operating system. GJ Slovenia!
Ahh they improved upon the CZ Bren2 ms modular system and made it so we actually can modify and find parts easy enough. Love my Bren.. I’ll definitely buy one of these without a doubt!
Great design for sure. The bolt assembly looks similar to what's in the IWI Tavor/ X-95.
I’ll take the X16 over the X95 oh and I’ll take it in .300 BO.
The x16 is surely an interesting rifle, but I'll keep my proven & reliable IWI x95. (Although, if the price on the X16 dropped DRAMATICALLY, then I'd look to pick one up. $2,700 is a lot for something with no track record.)
I have seen a number of people test this, and only one channel has had an issue with it. PSR has a tiny one that he was reaching out to 300 yds with.
This looks like it might give me another option to think about when i get my next rifle: Bren 2 or the X16.............
As i guy who likes to be different and have things different from most of other people, i love the design already.
And that they made it so you can get your own parts mostly if u wanna change something thats also a great bonus.
Not just Americans would love it, us Europeans too ^-^
It really is a brilliant way to get pretty far from the AR rifle, while maintaining so much parts compatability. Very clever. The only real downside as an American AR owner is that yiu are stuck with only one upper.
@@justinkase1360 Why stuck? You can always get more and different uppers.
@@justinkase1360 That is the biggest reason i am looking to get a regular AR first. So that i have a .223 but can also just change the upper and use it as a PCC or if i wanted a .22
And have the extra option of using it with FX if that comes across.
But to have a dedicated .223 like this i would not mind also.
It's the same....but different ^-^
Aaron Cowen has one, says he loves it.
These newish operating systems seem cool and to work, the issue is nothing as of yet is better ENOUGH to justify the price from switching from an AR
Very impressive!
Favorite gun so far from the show
What an amazing time to be alive
This is genius. I'd like to see it put thru its paces, see if that recoil assembly survives.
people are concerned with the action getting fouled in DI but thats where it shines. Internal piston blows away debris foreign and domestic which adds in the reliability. Keeping it gas operated halfway down the gas system then making it operating rod cycled removes the debris rejecting feature of the original ar15. I disagree with this being an upgraded eugene stoner system.
Very clever design! Quite an improvement of the Stoner AR-15 system...I want!
So....to recap, this is basically an AR-15 with a slightly heightened upper receiver to accommodate a compact recoil spring, bolt, and a short stroke semi-internal piston assembly that uses a standard gas tube as its gas feed source. Sounds cool on paper, not sure that it will yield significant benefits (other than the shortened recoil system similar to the AR-180) in regards to reliability or cleanliness, since that piston is still very close the overall bolt assembly and internals. Interesting though. Would be another fun option.
Beautiful guns
Bada ass innovation and under $1000 well worth it!
I think I've said it before, but I love this design & I only wish you could use standard AR lowers without having to saw off the buffer tower. If they could tweak the design just enough to accommodate that, I think this thing would sell like hotcakes.
Yeah that's not a bad point, and I think that could be done.
I agree. They brag about AR modularity, yet it's not compatible with almost all standard AR lower receivers. A clear design flaw for the market their aiming for if you ask me.
But most importantly, it looks really cool
Everything being ar 15 pieces is amazing.
Brilliant design.