Thank you for an excellent tutorial. Clear and concise, and the PDF checklist is much appreciated. I see that you created them for mad dog, 737, and A320 also. Thank you for your hard work.
Nice video, just a few corrections. The engines on the 146 are started with an electric motor not using compressed air. Don't forget to switch on the engine bleed air as the PACKS require a air source (either APU or Engine bleed).
Noted - the video above was recorded very late last night while also looking at the MD-82 - I'm amazed I didn't say anything else flat-out wrong lol. I'll correct the startup checklist later to reflect the bleed air - I was trying to chop out as much as possible to shorten the start-up routine, and went a bit too far :)
That was nicely done, Captain; it explains much about my last flight from EGPH TO EIDW. The plane was all over the place, with two sets of switches for yaw dampers needed both on. It's a shocking way to fly anywhere, but it's a great plane. The FMC is a bit tricky, but you have videos. Super job on startup. Slainte, Johnathan. 👍☘
Loving your stuff. This was super helpful to get me going with my newly purchased Bae146. A really clear step by step guide. One thing i have noticed on the engine start though is that it helps to keep the revs high on the engine to ensure a positive start - seems to need a lot of welly!
The yaw damper has 2 functions: the damping function is actually to dampen dutch roll tendencies (that do not occur in turns per se - they can occur in cruise at altitude, if the flightpath is slightly disturbed by wind or sudden aileron inputs); the other function is to automatically put in rudder for "coordinated turns" (turns without sideslip) - right rudder for right turns and left rudder for left turns (as in jets the pilots do NOT do that with the rudder pedals - the rudder pedals stay untouched during turns); so it will NOT ever put in opposite rudder, except - maybe - during damping of unwanted dutch rolls occuring, certainly NOT in turns (as that would cause a dangerous cross control situation - which we never want, except very shortly before touchdown in crosswind landings - other than that cross control is very undesierable).
Thank you for this great explanation. The best I could find on the net. I really liked your short explanations of the individual switches. One should already know approximately, which switches one just operates ;o)
Many thanks for your amazing Step by Step tutorial to start this amazing fat boi heheheh i live in Punta arenas city and we have a company that make flights to antarctica in the BAe 146 and they have an amazing livery of a Macaroni Penguin greetings from Chile
Nice video and good explanations. I guess the warning was caused by the flaps retracted. You could press the config test below the throttles. I didn't know about the FMC, interesting info.
Great video. Just a small mistake. Yaw dampers are not used to prevent the yaw when getting into a turn and out of it. They re used to prevent dutch roll which is a couple of yaw and rall at high altitudes and high mach numbers
Not a mistake at all - the primary initiator of "dutch roll" is adverse yaw. Obviously it gets worse at higher altitudes because the air is thinner, and the tailplane isn't any bigger than it was :)
Im really sorry and you are totally right. I ve been studying principles of flight and instruments for my atpl’s and the data basses kept on insisting that it did not help on coordinating a turn however today I came across and better explanation of yaw damper systems and as soon as I saw that I ve made a mistake I run over here to try to correct. Nevertheless sorry for anything hope I didn’t sound cocky out anything. Ps: flying the 146 after watching your videos has become really easy cheers
As an aside: the 200 series is speed/alt limited with the yaw damper inop, whereas the 300 is not. The TMS, not mentioned here must be selected off during start, or the actuators will do some most unpleasant things during the start sequence (that should be on the checklist ?)
Thank you vey much for the video and background information! One thing I noticed: I think the Engine Anti-Ice needs to be activated prior to engine start and may be switched off after. I assume you confused the Anti-Ice Switches with the Ice Detect switch.
Actually, I intentionally trimmed it out of the procedure. As you say - it's the *correct* procedure, but not essential in the simulator. I miss a LOT of the various procedural checks out.
Great video!!!! Please can you inform which camerasettings you use? You are looking in the cockpit with mouse or something else??? For me it is a big problem to get it working properly. Regards, Jan
@@jonbeckett Thank you very much for your response but can you give me please the right settings for mouse and keybord? I want to go through the cockpit as you do in your video as I am no computerexpert for me it is very difficult to get to the right settings. I hope you can give me a hand to solve this problem? Regards, Jan F. Gleusteen
Hi Jonathan, great video! I keep running into the same problem though. When I flip the Batt 1 and 2 switch to the ‘on’ position, I never get a reading from the Fuel Feed dials Upper panel to the left. As a result after following the steps to the APU start and the RPM needle reaching the green. The APU powers off due to lack of fuel. The tanks are all 50% full (Max TOW) but the needle never comes alive on a cold & dark start. Am I missing something in the startup that you can think of? Thank you
I'm wondering if it's a controller and/or binding issue? Just out of interest, disconnect your joystick/throttle etc and try starting up without it. It could be you have a switch somewhere that is cutting off the fuel.
@@jonbeckett still doesn’t work. Difficult to pinpoint this issue. I bought and installed my version from the MSFS marketplace. So that shouldn’t be the issue. The simulator is installed on an external E: drive. As so are the other add-on planes. I’ll try and contact Just Flight support for this one. Was just making sure it wasn’t a quick fix that I was overlooking. Thanks anyway!
Hi and thx for the video. At 9:29 you switch on the nav radio. When i start the plane cold and dark i am not able to press the on and switch on the nav radio. Do you know maybe what may possible do wrong? Is there any other switch which needs to be on to provide power?
If you follow the same procedure I did, you should be good to go. With the 146 you need the batteries on, then the APU, then you have power to do everything.
If anyone else have this issue it is a known bug and JF works on that. As a short-term solution, in MSFS if you go to Options > General Options > Accessibility and then set the Cockpit Interaction System setting to LEGACY it will work.
Great video. Thanks so much for helping me get started on this wonderful aircraft. May I ask how you moved across the cockpit at time 6.51 on the video. For the life of me I can’t find out how to do this on MSFS. Thanks in advance.
Is anyone having an issue with the pitch controls not working? I've tried the "Ready for TO" option, and done a startup from a "Cold and Dark" state, uninstalled and reinstalled the aircraft. I'm currently using the default keyboard settings and all other flight controls work, it's just the pitch controls. When I do get the aircraft in the air I can control the pitch by adjusting the pitch trim (CTRL 1 & 7) but it's impossible to fly the aircraft that way. Anyone have any thoughts on what the problem can be.
Have you checked the axis are appropriately bound on your control profile ? Also - there is a box on the yolk that acts as "gust lock" (that locks all control surfaces) - it could be that.
The 146 is famously light on the GPU and CPU. The computer here is an I7 with a 3080 GPU, and 16Gb of fast RAM. Internet connection is fast too. I actually see it far higher quality than the videos appear - I have a 4K monitor. It gets downrated to 1080P by OBS for TH-cam.
@@jonbeckett Eitherway the Graphics still look very realistic. The 146/RJ-100. Some of my favorite aircraft! Too bad they didn't continue with a 3rd generation, etc....
Hi Jonathan, just a quick question, did you have to configure your thrustmaster quadrant for the 146. I’ve just bought it and although idle, it’s mid-range on the 146. I couldn’t see a config (like the 310) on the electronic flight bag tablet. Many thanks in advance!!
Nice Effort ,…Thankyou For explaining the Why to’s for Most of the Switches ✈️👍 Very Helpful in Learning This Fine Bird !!!😎 I do Hope someone,Someday, Puts up Quick Start Guides for these More Complex Aircraft, …Showing Each Switch Press in Chronological Order, But Maybe Without the Explanations 😌👍….it would be Great to just follow along with a video that does Only “That”. …Kind of a “Shortcut” to a checklist, so to speak. One thing Though that would Further Enhance a Video Like that or even this one, Would be A Larger, More Colorful “pointer/Cursor” as Well.😎✈️👍…because I & Many others Have IPads or Tablets that Have Much smaller Screens & it’s tough trying to see Your Mouse Pointer Sometimes.😳😌 Looking Forward to Watching Your other Tutorials Too !!
It's interesting that you're after a procedure without explanations - knowing what the switches are doing helps me understand how things work and why - so it makes sense - rather than blindly following a procedure. If you're just going through steps, but don't know why, you can't solve problems :)
@@jonbeckett Yes, of course I Respect the Way You’re approaching this, I Just Wanted to Make a Point That, In Addition to More Contextual Tutorials, Sometimes we Just Don’t get Back to flying the Aircraft for a While, & It would be Quicker , That’s all I Meant,…Thanks for Responding Jon !! What are your Thoughts on using a Larger, more colorful Cursor In your videos ??😎👍🤷♂️
how realistic do you think it is, compared to pmdg or fenix, like is it close to study level or less or what ? im curious about it and still hesitant to take it, i really like realistic simulations.. Thanks for your opinion !
It's probably 70% towards study level. The only big thing missing is the FMC - although to fly it "period accurate" you can completely remove the retro-fitted CJ4 FMC.
@@jonbeckett okay, but on the RJ100 they're doing they are going to code like an accurate fms to the real aicraft not the one from WT right ? i saw something like that and thank you for your quick answer !! :)
You can! It's a bit of a hack though - you have to go into the tablet, go to the aircraft section, click on the cog at the top corner, and then the option appears to use the MSFS flightplan (I forget what it's called exactly).
You must have missed something during start-up. If you download the checklist I made, you can check each step. Otherwise - the tablet lets you jump straight to "ready to fly" - but it does take a minute or two to get everything ready.
@@jonbeckett i noticed it was right after i turn on the battery. i was wondering if it was the master caution, but i could not find anything that would turn it off.
You can download the start-up procedure for free from:
ko-fi.com/jonbeckett/shop
Thank you for an excellent tutorial. Clear and concise, and the PDF checklist is much appreciated. I see that you created them for mad dog, 737, and A320 also.
Thank you for your hard work.
You are welcome!
Nice video, just a few corrections. The engines on the 146 are started with an electric motor not using compressed air. Don't forget to switch on the engine bleed air as the PACKS require a air source (either APU or Engine bleed).
Noted - the video above was recorded very late last night while also looking at the MD-82 - I'm amazed I didn't say anything else flat-out wrong lol. I'll correct the startup checklist later to reflect the bleed air - I was trying to chop out as much as possible to shorten the start-up routine, and went a bit too far :)
Good stuff Jon ! Thx for the functional check list for BAE146, it’s excellent…quick and easy to get going without spending too much time.
Thanks muchos. I appreciate your bits of knowledge thrown in to explain why things happen in the order they do.
Glad to help
That was nicely done, Captain; it explains much about my last flight from EGPH TO EIDW. The plane was all over the place, with two sets of switches for yaw dampers needed both on. It's a shocking way to fly anywhere, but it's a great plane. The FMC is a bit tricky, but you have videos. Super job on startup. Slainte, Johnathan. 👍☘
Loving your stuff. This was super helpful to get me going with my newly purchased Bae146. A really clear step by step guide. One thing i have noticed on the engine start though is that it helps to keep the revs high on the engine to ensure a positive start - seems to need a lot of welly!
Thankyou :)
outstanding. Thankyou also for the pdf. I will share this video with my squadron buddies.
Awesome, thank you!
The yaw damper has 2 functions: the damping function is actually to dampen dutch roll tendencies (that do not occur in turns per se - they can occur in cruise at altitude, if the flightpath is slightly disturbed by wind or sudden aileron inputs); the other function is to automatically put in rudder for "coordinated turns" (turns without sideslip) - right rudder for right turns and left rudder for left turns (as in jets the pilots do NOT do that with the rudder pedals - the rudder pedals stay untouched during turns); so it will NOT ever put in opposite rudder, except - maybe - during damping of unwanted dutch rolls occuring, certainly NOT in turns (as that would cause a dangerous cross control situation - which we never want, except very shortly before touchdown in crosswind landings - other than that cross control is very undesierable).
Just picked up this bird today. Great tutorial to get me started 👍🏻
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you ! I have find all primary informations i need to start moving ! Great introduction, thanks again :)
You're welcome :)
Thanks for this..... You made it simple
You're welcome!
Thanks Jonathan, excellent video. Looking forward to more on this wonderful aircraft👍
You're welcome :)
Thank you for this great explanation. The best I could find on the net. I really liked your short explanations of the individual switches. One should already know approximately, which switches one just operates ;o)
I recorded it that way on purpose - so thank you :)
Many thanks for your amazing Step by Step tutorial to start this amazing fat boi heheheh
i live in Punta arenas city and we have a company that make flights to antarctica in the BAe 146 and they have an amazing livery of a Macaroni Penguin
greetings from Chile
Greetings from the UK :)
your videos are so helpful, thanks man, subscribed
You're welcome :)
@@jonbeckett currently doing a flight from EGWU - EHEH thanks to you 😄
Nice video and good explanations. I guess the warning was caused by the flaps retracted. You could press the config test below the throttles. I didn't know about the FMC, interesting info.
Yes - I've since found out the warning was about the flaps :)
Great tutorial thanks
Glad you liked it
Great Tutorial
CORRECTION - I described the N1 numbers incorrectly - it's showing you percentages - they just have integers and decimals across the three columns.
Thanks!
Great video. Just a small mistake. Yaw dampers are not used to prevent the yaw when getting into a turn and out of it. They re used to prevent dutch roll which is a couple of yaw and rall at high altitudes and high mach numbers
Not a mistake at all - the primary initiator of "dutch roll" is adverse yaw. Obviously it gets worse at higher altitudes because the air is thinner, and the tailplane isn't any bigger than it was :)
Im really sorry and you are totally right. I ve been studying principles of flight and instruments for my atpl’s and the data basses kept on insisting that it did not help on coordinating a turn however today I came across and better explanation of yaw damper systems and as soon as I saw that I ve made a mistake I run over here to try to correct. Nevertheless sorry for anything hope I didn’t sound cocky out anything.
Ps: flying the 146 after watching your videos has become really easy cheers
@@filipevieira9475 No harm done :) I've got a pretty thick skin (you have to if you post things on youtube) lol
As an aside: the 200 series is speed/alt limited with the yaw damper inop, whereas the 300 is not.
The TMS, not mentioned here must be selected off during start, or the actuators will do some most unpleasant things during the start sequence (that should be on the checklist ?)
Thank you vey much for the video and background information!
One thing I noticed: I think the Engine Anti-Ice needs to be activated prior to engine start and may be switched off after. I assume you confused the Anti-Ice Switches with the Ice Detect switch.
Actually, I intentionally trimmed it out of the procedure. As you say - it's the *correct* procedure, but not essential in the simulator. I miss a LOT of the various procedural checks out.
Brilliant tutorial thanks, could you provide pdf check list you used at all.
Many thanks S
If you follow the link in the notes, it should take you to Google Drive.
3:20 I did not know acdc where doing a show lol
awesome !!!
Thank you :)
Great video!!!! Please can you inform which camerasettings you use? You are looking in the cockpit with mouse or something else??? For me it is a big problem to get it working properly. Regards, Jan
I used keyboard combinations, and the mouse.
@@jonbeckett Thank you very much for your response but can you give me please the right settings for mouse and keybord?
I want to go through the cockpit as you do in your video as I am no computerexpert for me it is very difficult to get to the right settings.
I hope you can give me a hand to solve this problem?
Regards,
Jan F. Gleusteen
gREAT TUTORIAL
Glad you liked it
Hi Jonathan, great video! I keep running into the same problem though.
When I flip the Batt 1 and 2 switch to the ‘on’ position, I never get a reading from the Fuel Feed dials Upper panel to the left. As a result after following the steps to the APU start and the RPM needle reaching the green. The APU powers off due to lack of fuel.
The tanks are all 50% full (Max TOW) but the needle never comes alive on a cold & dark start.
Am I missing something in the startup that you can think of?
Thank you
I'm wondering if it's a controller and/or binding issue? Just out of interest, disconnect your joystick/throttle etc and try starting up without it. It could be you have a switch somewhere that is cutting off the fuel.
@@jonbeckett still doesn’t work. Difficult to pinpoint this issue. I bought and installed my version from the MSFS marketplace. So that shouldn’t be the issue.
The simulator is installed on an external E: drive. As so are the other add-on planes.
I’ll try and contact Just Flight support for this one. Was just making sure it wasn’t a quick fix that I was overlooking.
Thanks anyway!
Hi and thx for the video. At 9:29 you switch on the nav radio. When i start the plane cold and dark i am not able to press the on and switch on the nav radio. Do you know maybe what may possible do wrong? Is there any other switch which needs to be on to provide power?
If you follow the same procedure I did, you should be good to go. With the 146 you need the batteries on, then the APU, then you have power to do everything.
@@jonbeckett I do exactly as you do it but the click to switch on NAV radio doesn’t work! Anyway i opened a ticket to Just Flight.
If anyone else have this issue it is a known bug and JF works on that. As a short-term solution, in MSFS if you go to Options > General Options > Accessibility and then set the Cockpit Interaction System setting to LEGACY it will work.
Great video. Thanks so much for helping me get started on this wonderful aircraft. May I ask how you moved across the cockpit at time 6.51 on the video. For the life of me I can’t find out how to do this on MSFS. Thanks in advance.
The arrow keys :) I mapped them to translate the view around the cockpit.
Is anyone having an issue with the pitch controls not working? I've tried the "Ready for TO" option, and done a startup from a "Cold and Dark" state, uninstalled and reinstalled the aircraft. I'm currently using the default keyboard settings and all other flight controls work, it's just the pitch controls. When I do get the aircraft in the air I can control the pitch by adjusting the pitch trim (CTRL 1 & 7) but it's impossible to fly the aircraft that way. Anyone have any thoughts on what the problem can be.
Have you checked the axis are appropriately bound on your control profile ? Also - there is a box on the yolk that acts as "gust lock" (that locks all control surfaces) - it could be that.
very realistic! what graphics card, settings, cpu model etcc...
The 146 is famously light on the GPU and CPU. The computer here is an I7 with a 3080 GPU, and 16Gb of fast RAM. Internet connection is fast too. I actually see it far higher quality than the videos appear - I have a 4K monitor. It gets downrated to 1080P by OBS for TH-cam.
@@jonbeckett
Eitherway the Graphics still look very realistic. The 146/RJ-100. Some of my favorite aircraft! Too bad they didn't continue with a 3rd generation, etc....
Hi Jonathan, just a quick question, did you have to configure your thrustmaster quadrant for the 146. I’ve just bought it and although idle, it’s mid-range on the 146. I couldn’t see a config (like the 310) on the electronic flight bag tablet. Many thanks in advance!!
Yes - I have a profile for it :)
@@jonbeckett are you able to share or have you covered in a tut I’ve missed. Sorry for pestering you!
Fret not. I think I’ve sussed it! :)
anyone else unable to click the "on" button on the VHF NAV panel? I have to start the aircraft from turn-around state due to this
You have to switch the plane into either NAV or RNAV mode on the switch in front of the pilot, which roughly corresponds to FMS/GPS or VOR navigation.
Hi! Will there be a guide how to navigate on Bae-146?
There already is - go check the recent videos in my channel :)
Awesome video, and thabk you very much. I found this very helpful. I hope you will be able to do one for the MadDog Md 82 as well.
I'm going to take a look at the MD-82 today :)
Nice Effort ,…Thankyou For explaining the Why to’s for Most of the Switches ✈️👍 Very Helpful in Learning This Fine Bird !!!😎 I do Hope someone,Someday, Puts up Quick Start Guides for these More Complex Aircraft, …Showing Each Switch Press in Chronological Order, But Maybe Without the Explanations 😌👍….it would be Great to just follow along with a video that does Only “That”. …Kind of a “Shortcut” to a checklist, so to speak. One thing Though that would Further Enhance a Video Like that or even this one, Would be A Larger, More Colorful “pointer/Cursor” as Well.😎✈️👍…because I & Many others Have IPads or Tablets that Have Much smaller Screens & it’s tough trying to see Your Mouse Pointer Sometimes.😳😌 Looking Forward to Watching Your other Tutorials Too !!
It's interesting that you're after a procedure without explanations - knowing what the switches are doing helps me understand how things work and why - so it makes sense - rather than blindly following a procedure. If you're just going through steps, but don't know why, you can't solve problems :)
@@jonbeckett Yes, of course I Respect the Way You’re approaching this, I Just Wanted to Make a Point That, In Addition to More Contextual Tutorials, Sometimes we Just Don’t get Back to flying the Aircraft for a While, & It would be Quicker , That’s all I Meant,…Thanks for Responding Jon !! What are your Thoughts on using a Larger, more colorful Cursor In your videos ??😎👍🤷♂️
how realistic do you think it is, compared to pmdg or fenix, like is it close to study level or less or what ? im curious about it and still hesitant to take it, i really like realistic simulations.. Thanks for your opinion !
It's probably 70% towards study level. The only big thing missing is the FMC - although to fly it "period accurate" you can completely remove the retro-fitted CJ4 FMC.
@@jonbeckett okay, but on the RJ100 they're doing they are going to code like an accurate fms to the real aicraft not the one from WT right ? i saw something like that and thank you for your quick answer !! :)
@@userDFboeing Apparently so.
@@userDFboeing I believe so.
Stewardesses? Flight attendants more like in 2022 thank you very much. Other than that a very good tutorial lol :)
My bad
Is there is GPU for external power?
Look in the tablet :)
Which Bae146 is this? Maybe a stupid question... 🙂
The 100
@@jonbeckett thnx m8
Legend, been struggling a little bit she’s definitely not a 737 or A320
can you load the sim flightplane into the plan automatically?
You can! It's a bit of a hack though - you have to go into the tablet, go to the aircraft section, click on the cog at the top corner, and then the option appears to use the MSFS flightplan (I forget what it's called exactly).
When i start the engine, i have noticed a constant beeping.
You must have missed something during start-up. If you download the checklist I made, you can check each step. Otherwise - the tablet lets you jump straight to "ready to fly" - but it does take a minute or two to get everything ready.
@@jonbeckett i noticed it was right after i turn on the battery. i was wondering if it was the master caution, but i could not find anything that would turn it off.
Great tutorial. Thankyou
Glad it was helpful!