Also it's a still an ongoing pandemic! And there is not just the acute respiratory phase of the disease we have to worry about, even though vaccines saved millions of lives in the initial years of the pandemic. Covid is a vascular disease, which damages our organs, blood vessels. Sting in the tail down the line.
And? Elderly people die. It's what happens. Heart attacks, cancer, pneumonia, sinus infections, colds, UTIs, foot injuries, falls...Elderly people are at risk for death... not risk for death from covid.
@@TabooEducation they would have died regardless. No one is as healthy as they lie to themselves to be. Especially in this country. Metabolic health is key and always has been.
My dad was the 161st death in my state on April 9th, 2020. My state shut down only 2 weeks before that. Unfortunately my dad and I were both essential workers. There were no masks or hand sanitizer. Someone sent me a blanket without saying who sent it after. My dad's side is indigenous lol. I donated it. My sister nearly died from it, and she caught the plague when she was 15 from a squirrel in AZ. My great grandma and 3x great grandpa died from TB, my 2x great grandpa died from Spanish flu. We don't have good luck with pandemics in our family
The COVID death numbers in the US is also suspected to be low because some causes of death were listed as some other issue (heart issues, senility, drug or alcohol, etc.) even though those diagnoses were abnormally high at the time.
Yep. My mother died after contracting Covid and recovering twice, but her COD was ultimately determined to be cardiac issues, which immediately arose comorbidly with her Covid infections despite a lifelong history of excellent cardiovascular health.
Deasths caused by covid filling the hospitals and preventing others who required care not getting it leading to death does still count as a covid death which sounds to have been what the largest number of non direct covid deaths listed in the total for the US and those deaths do come directly down to covid so they probably should be included
I read articles that said that hospitals were paid by the government a certain amount for every COVID death reported, which is why hospital report deaths by heart attack, stroke, car crashes, etc., as COVID deaths.
@@LedSubmarine93 ...Except statistics show that the exact opposite of that was true. Fatalities due to other conditions were exorbitantly higher than projected annual expectations, while reported covid deaths were very low. Was the article in the Daily Mail or something, or do you just lack a bit of reading comprehension?
@LedSubmarine93 and that's been proven to be false. There's a calculation done every year on expected death numbers. It's based on population, age demographics, health statistics.... then you look at the actual numbers of deaths. Anything over is called "excess deaths". The number of excess deaths over the last couple of years would indicate that COVID deaths were under reported in most countries.
"Survival of the fittest" is not equivalent to "only the strong survive." Look only at the 1918 flu, which disproportionately took those with the most vigorous immune response--young adults. Also, take the various sci-fi dramas where diseases prevent reproduction. "Strong" means adaptive, "fit" means fortunate.
Majority of COVID deaths were from people with multiple comorbidities and elderly with comorbidities. Prime example from Canada. A teenage child who had end stage terminal cancer contracted covid and the morons in the health system reported the terminal cancer wasn't the cause of death, covid was! Another woman had her husband collapse at home and die of a massive heart attacks. They isolated and took precautions when out. Neither had anyone in their family or friend circle contract covid. The coroner deemed the death heart attack from covid complications. Yet, the medical testing post mortem didn't show he had covid. She fought to get death certificate amended to cardiac arrest I never caught it, still haven't either. I did however, many years ago get Zika virus infection while on a cruise to the Caribbean. Odds are 1:20k...oh lucky my....
To be fair the DPKR may have suffered so little due to their isolation from the international community. Covid appeared to spread via travel most of which is tourism which North Korea don't get much of.
One case I found weird was the Antarctic scientists who were in isolation longer than normal and when they finally had to be switched out the scientists that were in Antarctica since before the pandemic started somehow had contracted it. So tell me, how did these people who are more isolated managed to get it?
@@douglasfreer the two are actually a great comparison because they get similar levels of tourism outside of the pandemic, and Antartica didn't get infected until like 2021 despite ongoing research and resupplies from New Zealand. North Korea usually only gets 100k tourists or visitors from China a year generally but imposed strict lockdowns and North Korea stopped admitting tourism and only opened up for visitors early this year. So if you don't let people in you don't get sick, a historical comparison is American Samoa during the Spanish Flu, due to their maratime quarantine they had no influenza related deaths at all during the period of the Spanish Flu. Due to North Korea bordering China and South Korea they might as well be in the sea - China helped close the northern border off and you get shot crossing the southern border
When studying to become a nurse, we had a module on sexual health. As part of that, we had to take a topic related to sexual health, reasearch it (3,500 word assignment) and then condense it down into under 5 minutes of presentation. Because I like a challenge, history and also am gay. I decided to try attempt to cover HIV/AIDS in men who have sex with men. Needless to say, 5 minutes resulted in an extreme cliff notes version 😂. So yeah, I LOVE that you brought up HIV/AIDS because that is a truly horrible condition that many people have disregarded as a gay disease and therefore doesn't warrent discussion. Also, a knock on effect of covid on healthcare (at least in my local hospitals) is an extremely toxic workplace environment. So many nurses have been so burnt out but still need to work, coz bills, have turned into bitter old hags who in their frustration take out their resentment and hostility on others, who in turn pass that shit on to others etc etc. So despite the fact I spent 4 damn had years fighting to become a nurse in the middle of a pandemic, I've pcked it in, as have so many otger new and long qualified nurses
@jamesmurray438 yeah and I don't blame them, healthcare aound the world is so underfunded with so many problems. Also, I had to laugh at a 5min presentation of the 80s HIV crisis- I'm mean good on you, but damn talk about biting more then you can chew! I can imagine your lecture thinking "well it's going to be interesting to see how he manages to pull this off!"
Delta ravaged India. I was very sick in 3/2020, and still have long covid. Did these other illnesses have long term issues? 10-30% of ppl with covid got long covid. The trauma of the nurses is now dismissiveness towards those with long covid. "Did you die" is not appropriate talk to someone who once trained for 70.3 mile triathlons but then narrowly escaped the need for a vent but that is what medical staff say to me.
Oliver Sacks, a neurologist, wrote a book about working with patients who experienced long term neurological impacts from the 1918 flu. It was adapted into a film starring Robin Williams called Awakenings.
I wonder what the statistics would have been like if Covid happened before the 1800's or if the great plagues happened today? It would be interesting if anyone has worked up projections for either case.
I am one of the few who is still wearing a mask when I am shopping, attending class, or mowing the grass. I saw two other people wearing masks when I was at the doctor's office yesterday. I don't like wearing a mask; but, I hate being sick (so I'm going to keep wearing a mask).
Same here. I am a transplant recipient so I take immunosuppressants, though, so I have an extra excuse. I don't mind at all, however; the masks have never bothered me, and I never did understand why so many people were obsessively opposed to them.
I work grocery retail and even before CoVID-19, have had people cough/sneeze/spit on me. I'd contracted so many infectious illnesses, my doctor (back in 2016) had asked if my employer would allow me to wear a face mask, at least during cold/flu season. Plot twist: the employer had told me "no, it might scare the customers". And then CoVID happened and we all had to wear face masks. I think I was one of the first, if not the very first worker in my store who started donning masks in early March, 2020. I still wear them to work, when out shopping or in any situation where I know I'll have a lot of people around me, and on days when the pollen is really high. One thing I noticed during 2020, my seasonal nasal allergies didn't bother me half as much as usual, due to my wearing face masks. Of course I get idiots mocking me for it. I either make a rude face at them under the mask, or, without looking at them, mutter things like, "I liked you better before you opened your fool mouth", or "Can you stop doing that talking thing? you're making yourself look dumb."
I still wear a mask. I’m a nurse who watched a lot of people die from Covid. It’s still out there and could mutate at any time. Plus, there’s the flu, RSV, colds, etc.
@@MatrixRefugeeone of my moms Facebook friends commented on a post that people look stupid wearing masks in the grocery store. I kind of lost my mind a little bit and said ina reply, I’m a nurse working with Covid patients every day and they’re dropping like flies. They cough on me, directly into my face sometimes, and I do have PPE on, but do you want me to not wear a mask at the store and breathe all over the food you’re going to feed your children after working with Covid infections all day? Would you invite me over to dinner? Let me sit next to your kids and breathe on them? It was pretty embarrassing actually I really lost it on the guy. But he didn’t have anything to say after that so oh well.
Covid was very bad but thanks to previous research and modern medicine it was much better then it could have been. Now the big question is have we learned anything from Covid that will help when the next pandemic hits. I hope so but sadly I also live in the US so I am not counting on it.
Ha, we've learned nothing. When the next one hits, people will scream about their rights again while others drop dead around them. Despite the tragedies, Covid was insufficiently deadly to teach us any real lessons other than we're extremely susceptible to disinformation campaigns.
70% of people didn't have to die. They discovered the exact mechanism by which covid kills in April of 2020. I found the research in July of 2020. Covid kills via cytokine storm. We have dozens of medications that shut down a cytokine storm. DOZENS. Several of them are rheumatoid arthritis medications that were proven to stop it from killing a person. And yet, very few people were given these drugs. The federal government actually restricted their use in a few states. Why? Profit. If no one died, no one would use the vaccine.
Sure, covid might seem less scary compared to the great plagues of the past. But the difference is we can _do_ something about it. We have vaccines, we have germ theory, and so much more knowledge about treatment and prevention which our ancestors would have killed for
I mean, in the US at least, we weren't just fighting evolution. We had also elected a sh*tbird who gutted or dismantled various government response teams and the like whose job it was to be prepared for this exact kind of thing. Also our hospitals are run like businesses and are expected to maintain thin margins on everything. This includes not wasting a bunch of space on ample stores of life-saving PPE or other medical equipment. It also includes scheduling shifts with the bare minimum of workers needed, leading to rapid burnout in those professions and our ongoing shortage of qualified medical professionals 🙃 And that's just a couple of the myriad ways my country failed to protect its residents from covid. So, like, yeah in the context of how well our whole species has done combating pandemics in the past, we showed a lot of improvement in the numbers. But compared to what we could have been capable of accomplishing, I feel there's still reason to be angry that we didn't do better. If we'd just been fighting the disease, that'd be one thing, but we were also fighting a bizarre level of incompetence, greed, and political theatre.
I am 68 and healthy. I refused the jab, took off my mask the moment I could get away with it, and first came down with COVID after a year and a half. It wasn't particularly fun but it was no worse than a medium-to-bad cold. (I've been way sicker in my life than that.) I had it the second time a little over a year ago, and it was even milder than the first round. Others' mileage, of course, can and will wary.
Same for my wife and I. After avoiding it initially, we both contracted it from our 5 year old granddaughter in March of 2022 (I was 69, my wife 64). Neither of us took the jab, my wife because of a history of bad reactions to flu shots and myself I have a condition that affects my immune system so I was advised not to take it. We are both in fairly good health, although I have a history of asthma and her bronchitis, so I wasn't thrilled we contracted the virus. However, while we both felt like crap for about 7-10 days we both survived with no ill effects and now have the same type of immunity that someone who took the jab does. I can remember in my younger years having a flu that made me MUCH sicker than Covid did. I'm not saying Covid wasn't bad, it just wasn't bad for us. By the time we got it the virus had mutated several times and seems to have become much less deadly than it originally was. It seems to have become "just another flu bug" now. What do they call it? Herd immunity?
When I got Covid the first time my only symptom was a loss of my sense of taste. The next time I got it, it knocked me on my butt for more than three weeks.
I had covid once. So did my brother in law. I didn't get the jab(still haven't), he did. For me it was about the same as a really bad chest cold and a mild flu at the same time. For my brother in law it was much worse. It took me 2 weeks to get completely back to normal. It took him a month and a half.
I’ve had it too and it was tough the first time. Just a bad flu and it just got easier the subsequent times I had it. Will never take the jab. It’s not a vaccine anyways. CDC admitted this and half the world banned 2 versions of it!!
Even if true, what did tribes do to each other before the Europeans showed up? They scalped, unalived, and force bred each other. Every country’s history has dark spots.
It's impossible to know unfortunately. Especially with the virus being so easily transmissible and 20-30% of infections being asymptomatic (which can then be symptomatic in the next person in a chain)
I do not know if I had it or not, had a couple bad colds over the last couple years, just nearly died due to a Infection that went septic because the first time I went to the hospital (pre-vaccine) they tested for covid and sent me home to wait for the results.
This part is important. Modern medicine was able to make a sizable dent in the death toll. The ventilators were able to give a lot of people enough time for their bodies to fight it off before the vaccine brought down the numbers. Not everyone, unfortunately, but a decent portion survived what would have been death 100 years ago. That and overall health really mattered for covid, iirc the plague you needed a specific genetic mutation to survive without antibiotics.
@@sjmcc13 Those genetic mutations are probably responsible for modern autoimmune diseases, which ironically lowers your chances of surviving things like covid.
Hello Fellow Deathling! I truly enjoy and appreciate this channel. Thank you for your insight, your knowledge & your great presentation. "Let's talk death!"
@@singamajigy That's a BIG question. The simplest answer I have is that people need to learn to let go and make sure their wishes are known to those who care or might be...less than helpful. It feels to me like, culturally, we've medicalized death at the cost of humanity and diganty. Maybe try to focus more an making the passing as comfortable for the person as possible instead of extending life at all cost. But, it should be according to the wishes of the person dying, of course.
I think (in my non medical thick bloke opinion) that the 2 main factors at play in the covid outbreak where the JET engine "bad" and medical research/technology/vaccine "good" the 2 main players in the game
When COVID first hit, I told people that it was going to be a survival of the fittest, natural selection type of ordeal. That it was nature's (or man's, if youre a conspiracy theorist) way of population control. I said the weakest among us would be taken out. But of course that was a very unpopular thing to say.
Well, yeah, it's just eugenics. It shouldn't be popular. Especially because we have so much knowledge and technology now, we don't have to throw people to their 💀 these days. We can take reasonable precautions.
Did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate ? At TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten indicate that to replicate SARS COV2 on different tissues must decrease incubator temperature to 34C -35C. Theoretically, higher mucouseal respiratory temperature protect against SARS COV2 infection and Covid19. But if thermogenesis was weakened by different causes ( old age,low thyroid function,low muscular tonus...), how can maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature ? Maybe avoiding air cooler, ? Mask wearing not only stop droplets, but also maintain higher mucoseal respiratory temperature.
At this point, talking about covid in the past tense is living in a fairy tale and the last part of social Darwinism is quite supremacist. Other than that, good video 😷😷
@@amoureux6502that's good but also saying during the pandemic as though it's in the past is also the opposite of what we need getting people to see the pandemic is ongoing+ there are things we can do to protect ourselves. Get the best fitting and best quality mask you can get your hands on, push for clean air in schools and workplaces, public transport etc.
Most people I know who took the vaccines got COVID (badly) two or three months after getting the vaccine or booster. I got the J&J vaccine and luckily, I didn't catch COVID. I probably wouldn't have caught COVID, anyway, even if I didn't get the vaccine. COVID vaccines don't work that well. The reason why COVID is less prominent is because it had become more contagious but less potent as it evolved, just as most viruses evolve.
The actual statistics (not anecdotal evidence) show that those who have had the vaccine have significantly lower hospitalisation and death rates and significantly lower rates of long COVID.
The vaccine still raised peoples immunity to the infection so while covid did continue to prolirate it reduced hospitalizaion and eased the burden placed on medical systems allowing them to begin to function again as normal gradually as shown by the US medical system beginning to function again as vaccination rates rose in some areas and taking longer where vaccination was shunned due to politcal affiliation, and shown by other nations that did lock downs until vaccination rates rose having very few comparative losses like New Zealand
@coreysimmons4519 lol. Sure it did. Which is why the most treated country also has the highest casualty rate. The least jbbed nations have the least amount of casualties..
@rdallas81 how were the US the most treated? They're like 19th or 20th in vaccines taken per population so the US definitely wasn't that. The over all stat there also ignores that some states and cities did alright while others communities did not based on how it was treated
@@rdallas81 it's your choice to put yourself and the people around you in statistically more danger. If you don't want to trust people who've spent their whole lives studying disease, then you're free to face the consequences of doing so. Being vaccinated isn't a "battle". You are just framing it as one so you can justify your decision.
And COVID is still killing, my elderly neighbour died last week after contracting it (and his wife, who has survived)
Influenza still kills people as well.
@@AllisonReynolds1 yep, they reckon around 300 a week are still dying from it
Also it's a still an ongoing pandemic! And there is not just the acute respiratory phase of the disease we have to worry about, even though vaccines saved millions of lives in the initial years of the pandemic. Covid is a vascular disease, which damages our organs, blood vessels. Sting in the tail down the line.
And? Elderly people die. It's what happens. Heart attacks, cancer, pneumonia, sinus infections, colds, UTIs, foot injuries, falls...Elderly people are at risk for death... not risk for death from covid.
@@TabooEducation they would have died regardless. No one is as healthy as they lie to themselves to be. Especially in this country. Metabolic health is key and always has been.
My dad was the 161st death in my state on April 9th, 2020. My state shut down only 2 weeks before that. Unfortunately my dad and I were both essential workers. There were no masks or hand sanitizer.
Someone sent me a blanket without saying who sent it after. My dad's side is indigenous lol. I donated it.
My sister nearly died from it, and she caught the plague when she was 15 from a squirrel in AZ.
My great grandma and 3x great grandpa died from TB, my 2x great grandpa died from Spanish flu.
We don't have good luck with pandemics in our family
I am so sorry for your loss.
@@singamajigy Thank you
I'm so sorry
I'm sorry for your loss. This is so injust what's happened to your family
@@paulaschaffer2418 thank you
I've been on heart meds for three years after catching COVID
The COVID death numbers in the US is also suspected to be low because some causes of death were listed as some other issue (heart issues, senility, drug or alcohol, etc.) even though those diagnoses were abnormally high at the time.
Yep. My mother died after contracting Covid and recovering twice, but her COD was ultimately determined to be cardiac issues, which immediately arose comorbidly with her Covid infections despite a lifelong history of excellent cardiovascular health.
Deasths caused by covid filling the hospitals and preventing others who required care not getting it leading to death does still count as a covid death which sounds to have been what the largest number of non direct covid deaths listed in the total for the US and those deaths do come directly down to covid so they probably should be included
I read articles that said that hospitals were paid by the government a certain amount for every COVID death reported, which is why hospital report deaths by heart attack, stroke, car crashes, etc., as COVID deaths.
@@LedSubmarine93 ...Except statistics show that the exact opposite of that was true. Fatalities due to other conditions were exorbitantly higher than projected annual expectations, while reported covid deaths were very low. Was the article in the Daily Mail or something, or do you just lack a bit of reading comprehension?
@LedSubmarine93 and that's been proven to be false.
There's a calculation done every year on expected death numbers. It's based on population, age demographics, health statistics.... then you look at the actual numbers of deaths. Anything over is called "excess deaths". The number of excess deaths over the last couple of years would indicate that COVID deaths were under reported in most countries.
"Survival of the fittest" is not equivalent to "only the strong survive." Look only at the 1918 flu, which disproportionately took those with the most vigorous immune response--young adults. Also, take the various sci-fi dramas where diseases prevent reproduction. "Strong" means adaptive, "fit" means fortunate.
Lyrics from a song I used to like.
Mobb deep I think.
Majority of COVID deaths were from people with multiple comorbidities and elderly with comorbidities.
Prime example from Canada. A teenage child who had end stage terminal cancer contracted covid and the morons in the health system reported the terminal cancer wasn't the cause of death, covid was!
Another woman had her husband collapse at home and die of a massive heart attacks. They isolated and took precautions when out. Neither had anyone in their family or friend circle contract covid. The coroner deemed the death heart attack from covid complications. Yet, the medical testing post mortem didn't show he had covid. She fought to get death certificate amended to cardiac arrest
I never caught it, still haven't either. I did however, many years ago get Zika virus infection while on a cruise to the Caribbean. Odds are 1:20k...oh lucky my....
With regards to HIV. Dont forget to use protection and PREP folks, take care out there 💜
To be fair the DPKR may have suffered so little due to their isolation from the international community. Covid appeared to spread via travel most of which is tourism which North Korea don't get much of.
One case I found weird was the Antarctic scientists who were in isolation longer than normal and when they finally had to be switched out the scientists that were in Antarctica since before the pandemic started somehow had contracted it.
So tell me, how did these people who are more isolated managed to get it?
@@douglasfreer the two are actually a great comparison because they get similar levels of tourism outside of the pandemic, and Antartica didn't get infected until like 2021 despite ongoing research and resupplies from New Zealand. North Korea usually only gets 100k tourists or visitors from China a year generally but imposed strict lockdowns and North Korea stopped admitting tourism and only opened up for visitors early this year. So if you don't let people in you don't get sick, a historical comparison is American Samoa during the Spanish Flu, due to their maratime quarantine they had no influenza related deaths at all during the period of the Spanish Flu. Due to North Korea bordering China and South Korea they might as well be in the sea - China helped close the northern border off and you get shot crossing the southern border
I never knew how much I needed to experience someone in this style of dress say "sh*t hits the fan" 😂
When studying to become a nurse, we had a module on sexual health. As part of that, we had to take a topic related to sexual health, reasearch it (3,500 word assignment) and then condense it down into under 5 minutes of presentation.
Because I like a challenge, history and also am gay. I decided to try attempt to cover HIV/AIDS in men who have sex with men. Needless to say, 5 minutes resulted in an extreme cliff notes version 😂. So yeah, I LOVE that you brought up HIV/AIDS because that is a truly horrible condition that many people have disregarded as a gay disease and therefore doesn't warrent discussion.
Also, a knock on effect of covid on healthcare (at least in my local hospitals) is an extremely toxic workplace environment. So many nurses have been so burnt out but still need to work, coz bills, have turned into bitter old hags who in their frustration take out their resentment and hostility on others, who in turn pass that shit on to others etc etc.
So despite the fact I spent 4 damn had years fighting to become a nurse in the middle of a pandemic, I've pcked it in, as have so many otger new and long qualified nurses
@jamesmurray438 yeah and I don't blame them, healthcare aound the world is so underfunded with so many problems.
Also, I had to laugh at a 5min presentation of the 80s HIV crisis- I'm mean good on you, but damn talk about biting more then you can chew! I can imagine your lecture thinking "well it's going to be interesting to see how he manages to pull this off!"
Delta ravaged India. I was very sick in 3/2020, and still have long covid. Did these other illnesses have long term issues? 10-30% of ppl with covid got long covid. The trauma of the nurses is now dismissiveness towards those with long covid. "Did you die" is not appropriate talk to someone who once trained for 70.3 mile triathlons but then narrowly escaped the need for a vent but that is what medical staff say to me.
Oliver Sacks, a neurologist, wrote a book about working with patients who experienced long term neurological impacts from the 1918 flu. It was adapted into a film starring Robin Williams called Awakenings.
@@Scarygothgirloh WOW I have to look at that. THANK YOU.
Is it really that bad? Well.. Its hell if you get it! I'm not that old. My lungs are destroyed and I now have asthma?
I wonder what the statistics would have been like if Covid happened before the 1800's or if the great plagues happened today? It would be interesting if anyone has worked up projections for either case.
I am one of the few who is still wearing a mask when I am shopping, attending class, or mowing the grass. I saw two other people wearing masks when I was at the doctor's office yesterday. I don't like wearing a mask; but, I hate being sick (so I'm going to keep wearing a mask).
Same here. I am a transplant recipient so I take immunosuppressants, though, so I have an extra excuse. I don't mind at all, however; the masks have never bothered me, and I never did understand why so many people were obsessively opposed to them.
I work grocery retail and even before CoVID-19, have had people cough/sneeze/spit on me. I'd contracted so many infectious illnesses, my doctor (back in 2016) had asked if my employer would allow me to wear a face mask, at least during cold/flu season. Plot twist: the employer had told me "no, it might scare the customers".
And then CoVID happened and we all had to wear face masks. I think I was one of the first, if not the very first worker in my store who started donning masks in early March, 2020. I still wear them to work, when out shopping or in any situation where I know I'll have a lot of people around me, and on days when the pollen is really high. One thing I noticed during 2020, my seasonal nasal allergies didn't bother me half as much as usual, due to my wearing face masks. Of course I get idiots mocking me for it. I either make a rude face at them under the mask, or, without looking at them, mutter things like, "I liked you better before you opened your fool mouth", or "Can you stop doing that talking thing? you're making yourself look dumb."
I have a raging case of Cotard's Syndrome. Wearing a mask is a luxury for me. No one should pay attention to who I am.
I still wear a mask. I’m a nurse who watched a lot of people die from Covid. It’s still out there and could mutate at any time. Plus, there’s the flu, RSV, colds, etc.
@@MatrixRefugeeone of my moms Facebook friends commented on a post that people look stupid wearing masks in the grocery store. I kind of lost my mind a little bit and said ina reply, I’m a nurse working with Covid patients every day and they’re dropping like flies. They cough on me, directly into my face sometimes, and I do have PPE on, but do you want me to not wear a mask at the store and breathe all over the food you’re going to feed your children after working with Covid infections all day? Would you invite me over to dinner? Let me sit next to your kids and breathe on them? It was pretty embarrassing actually I really lost it on the guy. But he didn’t have anything to say after that so oh well.
Very interesting, thank you. And btw, I love your Victorian style!
Thanks!
@richsenecal Thankyou so much! Super kind of you 😀
Covid was very bad but thanks to previous research and modern medicine it was much better then it could have been. Now the big question is have we learned anything from Covid that will help when the next pandemic hits. I hope so but sadly I also live in the US so I am not counting on it.
Ha, we've learned nothing. When the next one hits, people will scream about their rights again while others drop dead around them. Despite the tragedies, Covid was insufficiently deadly to teach us any real lessons other than we're extremely susceptible to disinformation campaigns.
70% of people didn't have to die. They discovered the exact mechanism by which covid kills in April of 2020. I found the research in July of 2020.
Covid kills via cytokine storm. We have dozens of medications that shut down a cytokine storm. DOZENS. Several of them are rheumatoid arthritis medications that were proven to stop it from killing a person.
And yet, very few people were given these drugs. The federal government actually restricted their use in a few states.
Why?
Profit. If no one died, no one would use the vaccine.
Sam, thank you for a very informative video. I have sometime wondered how COVID stacked up against other pandemics and now I know.
Without minimising at all how bad the ongoing Covid pandemic continues to be, Avian Flu human to human pandemic is waiting in the wings
Sure, covid might seem less scary compared to the great plagues of the past. But the difference is we can _do_ something about it. We have vaccines, we have germ theory, and so much more knowledge about treatment and prevention which our ancestors would have killed for
Excellent video. Very informative! Cheers & Thank you.
Thanks
@@rhyshawley6054 thankyou 😀
I mean, in the US at least, we weren't just fighting evolution. We had also elected a sh*tbird who gutted or dismantled various government response teams and the like whose job it was to be prepared for this exact kind of thing. Also our hospitals are run like businesses and are expected to maintain thin margins on everything. This includes not wasting a bunch of space on ample stores of life-saving PPE or other medical equipment. It also includes scheduling shifts with the bare minimum of workers needed, leading to rapid burnout in those professions and our ongoing shortage of qualified medical professionals 🙃 And that's just a couple of the myriad ways my country failed to protect its residents from covid.
So, like, yeah in the context of how well our whole species has done combating pandemics in the past, we showed a lot of improvement in the numbers. But compared to what we could have been capable of accomplishing, I feel there's still reason to be angry that we didn't do better. If we'd just been fighting the disease, that'd be one thing, but we were also fighting a bizarre level of incompetence, greed, and political theatre.
I am 68 and healthy. I refused the jab, took off my mask the moment I could get away with it, and first came down with COVID after a year and a half. It wasn't particularly fun but it was no worse than a medium-to-bad cold. (I've been way sicker in my life than that.) I had it the second time a little over a year ago, and it was even milder than the first round. Others' mileage, of course, can and will wary.
You were lucky
Same for my wife and I. After avoiding it initially, we both contracted it from our 5 year old granddaughter in March of 2022 (I was 69, my wife 64). Neither of us took the jab, my wife because of a history of bad reactions to flu shots and myself I have a condition that affects my immune system so I was advised not to take it. We are both in fairly good health, although I have a history of asthma and her bronchitis, so I wasn't thrilled we contracted the virus. However, while we both felt like crap for about 7-10 days we both survived with no ill effects and now have the same type of immunity that someone who took the jab does. I can remember in my younger years having a flu that made me MUCH sicker than Covid did. I'm not saying Covid wasn't bad, it just wasn't bad for us. By the time we got it the virus had mutated several times and seems to have become much less deadly than it originally was. It seems to have become "just another flu bug" now. What do they call it? Herd immunity?
When I got Covid the first time my only symptom was a loss of my sense of taste. The next time I got it, it knocked me on my butt for more than three weeks.
I had covid once. So did my brother in law. I didn't get the jab(still haven't), he did. For me it was about the same as a really bad chest cold and a mild flu at the same time. For my brother in law it was much worse. It took me 2 weeks to get completely back to normal. It took him a month and a half.
I’ve had it too and it was tough the first time. Just a bad flu and it just got easier the subsequent times I had it. Will never take the jab. It’s not a vaccine anyways. CDC admitted this and half the world banned 2 versions of it!!
Thank you for salving many of my pondering questions around death. Stay curious!
I learn so much from your channel. Thank you for doing what you do!!
Small Pox was put on blankets given to American Indigenous tribes when they weren't cooperative. nice people we Americans.
It happened only once as far as I know, it was the British, not the Americans that did it, and it was also during a siege
Speak for yourself.
Even if true, what did tribes do to each other before the Europeans showed up? They scalped, unalived, and force bred each other. Every country’s history has dark spots.
I still haven’t had Covid, one of the few people I know who haven’t
It's impossible to know unfortunately. Especially with the virus being so easily transmissible and 20-30% of infections being asymptomatic (which can then be symptomatic in the next person in a chain)
I do not know if I had it or not, had a couple bad colds over the last couple years, just nearly died due to a Infection that went septic because the first time I went to the hospital (pre-vaccine) they tested for covid and sent me home to wait for the results.
@@sjmcc13 That's awful. I'm glad you made it through.
We have modern technology, rapid testing and quickly making treatment/vaccines. The people experiencing other pandemics did not have this advantage.
This part is important.
Modern medicine was able to make a sizable dent in the death toll.
The ventilators were able to give a lot of people enough time for their bodies to fight it off before the vaccine brought down the numbers. Not everyone, unfortunately, but a decent portion survived what would have been death 100 years ago.
That and overall health really mattered for covid, iirc the plague you needed a specific genetic mutation to survive without antibiotics.
@@sjmcc13 Those genetic mutations are probably responsible for modern autoimmune diseases, which ironically lowers your chances of surviving things like covid.
Hello Fellow Deathling!
I truly enjoy and appreciate this channel. Thank you for your insight, your knowledge & your great presentation.
"Let's talk death!"
"with modern medicine, everyone must live." Ugh. We need to do better.
Do you prefer eugenics? Because that's the alternative.
What do you suggest?
@@singamajigy That's a BIG question. The simplest answer I have is that people need to learn to let go and make sure their wishes are known to those who care or might be...less than helpful.
It feels to me like, culturally, we've medicalized death at the cost of humanity and diganty. Maybe try to focus more an making the passing as comfortable for the person as possible instead of extending life at all cost. But, it should be according to the wishes of the person dying, of course.
No comparisons possible between a mysterious act of nature and an act of powerful humans.
oh i’ve never hit subscribe so fast !!
I thought you were going to do percentages? Also, per year numbers would also be informative.
“With all that in mind…”
Do not “trust” any of the raw numbers!
I think (in my non medical thick bloke opinion) that the 2 main factors at play in the covid outbreak where the JET engine "bad" and medical research/technology/vaccine "good" the 2 main players in the game
When COVID first hit, I told people that it was going to be a survival of the fittest, natural selection type of ordeal. That it was nature's (or man's, if youre a conspiracy theorist) way of population control. I said the weakest among us would be taken out. But of course that was a very unpopular thing to say.
Well, yeah, it's just eugenics. It shouldn't be popular. Especially because we have so much knowledge and technology now, we don't have to throw people to their 💀 these days. We can take reasonable precautions.
It's also just not how immunity works.
TH-cam deleting comments.
Us highest "treatment" rates-
Also bad the highest casualty rate....
Tells the truth and get deleted
Can’t wait to see what Trump leaves us with THIS time.
Modern medicine ftw
Over 30, winter, past 6pm? Checks out. 😅
Appreciate the perspective and, yes, medical staff even managed to keep alive those who fought life.
Kansan here… Sorry ‘bout that…
Did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate ?
At TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten indicate that to replicate SARS COV2 on different tissues must decrease incubator temperature to 34C -35C.
Theoretically, higher mucouseal respiratory temperature protect against SARS COV2 infection and Covid19.
But if thermogenesis was weakened by different causes ( old age,low thyroid function,low muscular tonus...), how can maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature ?
Maybe avoiding air cooler, ?
Mask wearing not only stop droplets, but also maintain higher mucoseal respiratory temperature.
And don't take paracetamol at the earliest sign of fever (unless it's dangerously high of course.)
Ibuprofen also@@sewmad1400
At this point, talking about covid in the past tense is living in a fairy tale and the last part of social Darwinism is quite supremacist. Other than that, good video 😷😷
She says in the vid that it still kills about 300 people a week
@@amoureux6502that's good but also saying during the pandemic as though it's in the past is also the opposite of what we need getting people to see the pandemic is ongoing+ there are things we can do to protect ourselves. Get the best fitting and best quality mask you can get your hands on, push for clean air in schools and workplaces, public transport etc.
Can't compare with other pandemics
for you don't know how many wd hv died in covid without all those protection measures
@@ing-mariekoppel1637 yeh, that was the point I was trying to make..
She's a hospice worker, she definitely knows how crucial modern medicine has been
It was not for me 😂
❤❤❤❤ from Brisbane Australia 🇦🇺
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Most people I know who took the vaccines got COVID (badly) two or three months after getting the vaccine or booster. I got the J&J vaccine and luckily, I didn't catch COVID. I probably wouldn't have caught COVID, anyway, even if I didn't get the vaccine.
COVID vaccines don't work that well. The reason why COVID is less prominent is because it had become more contagious but less potent as it evolved, just as most viruses evolve.
The actual statistics (not anecdotal evidence) show that those who have had the vaccine have significantly lower hospitalisation and death rates and significantly lower rates of long COVID.
The vaccine still raised peoples immunity to the infection so while covid did continue to prolirate it reduced hospitalizaion and eased the burden placed on medical systems allowing them to begin to function again as normal gradually as shown by the US medical system beginning to function again as vaccination rates rose in some areas and taking longer where vaccination was shunned due to politcal affiliation, and shown by other nations that did lock downs until vaccination rates rose having very few comparative losses like New Zealand
@coreysimmons4519 lol.
Sure it did.
Which is why the most treated country also has the highest casualty rate.
The least jbbed nations have the least amount of casualties..
You were lucky. Vaccines prevented millions of deaths
@rdallas81 how were the US the most treated? They're like 19th or 20th in vaccines taken per population so the US definitely wasn't that. The over all stat there also ignores that some states and cities did alright while others communities did not based on how it was treated
Can't w8 for the VAIDS comparison.
Yes! And also myocarditis, pericarditis and turbocancer. By the way, my comments get deleted one after another.
How shocking! The AIDs crisis is mentioned in a video comparing the death tolls of famous outbreaks throughout history.
TRUMP 2024!!!
The election ended over a month ago. Why are you continuing to show support for a campaign that's over?
@cthulhucult3230 well... because...
TRUMP2024!!! That's why.
Sheep video.
The spanish flu came to 🇺🇸 due to the Chinese railroad workers.
Ummm… wow. There’s a lot wrong here. Maybe as a result of oversimplification, but… Yeah…
@@jamesglenn7027 Care to elaborate...
Care to elaborate on your hypothetical wordage?
Lol
Still trying to sell that dead horse
We won
You lost
Get over it
What are you talking about?
@@singamajigyjbbed vs unjbbed
Exactly
@@rdallas81 it's your choice to put yourself and the people around you in statistically more danger. If you don't want to trust people who've spent their whole lives studying disease, then you're free to face the consequences of doing so. Being vaccinated isn't a "battle". You are just framing it as one so you can justify your decision.