The books aren't intended to be canon, and including any book related content in Ruin was a huge mistake in my opinion. If the books are canon then also you've got pregnant middle aged men and sentient cacti.
@@JonesCrimson Quite literally all the books are confirmed canon including the weirder stories. The Novel trilogy was addressed and explained from the start and explicitly states how it's canon and where it fits wirh the games, Frights was said to have stories directly connected to the games and it also directly follows from UCN, and Tales from **The Pizzaplex** was marketed to be "set in the world of the newest games" which is beyond any doubt true when they cross over so much, especially the Mimic appearing 1:1 in RUIN. Not to mention the Freddy Files which also goes over all of this again. The blatantly wrong idea they're just meant to be "parallels" or "hint at whats in the games" just doesn't make any logical sense. The argument boils down to minor inconsistencies from information handed accross multiple writers and mediums. Frights is intentionally a side narrative with mostly new characters that get resolved in-between the events of UCN and Help Wanted, it *directly* ties into the events of the games and is incomplete without them. Although we do quite literally see Andrew in UCN, for the most part we don't need to see those characters or that story in the games. Tales is even more ridiculous because the arguments used have no basis and again, the games and book stories are incomplete without complimenting eachother. There's just no reason for them not to be one timeline from a reading or writing standpoint, but people are seriously arguing that Scott (or the handful of other writers on the book series) chose to make near identical timelines different so there could be minor date or timeline inconsistencies. And again, with the direct and clear cut appearance of *the Mimic* in RUIN, people still arguing otherwise are coping so hard and/or look only to MatPat
@@dousc7579when you say minor differences, do you mean literal names, dates and series of events? Yeah no, they are meant to be in their own continuity, even when there are details crossing over. There was never a Charlie bot in the games, nor Baby's version of her in the games, but we know how remnant works. The later books introduced agony and what it can do, as well as ideas that could be introduced in game timeline. Pizzaplex books introduce the mimic and what it does, we never got the tiger animatronic nor even a plushtoy. ID's fantasy explained the concept pretty neatly
@@MrIljuha2000 @MrIljuha2000 Please give me examples of inconsistencies with names, dates, and series of events. When *i* say minor inconsistencies I acknowledge that some dates are a little cramped or iffy, such as the Mimic's creation or Larson's comment about the FFPS fire, but the intention for it to be one story is very obvious, and it makes no sense to suggest slightly fudged numbers are the only differences Scott added to say these are different timelines. There's just zero point to it. I didn’t say TFC Baby or the Charlie bots were in the games, I explicitly said the Novels are a different case to Frights and Tales. But still, Remnant and specifically agony remnant are explained even as far back as The Silver Eyes. Remnant has never been explained in the games themselves. It's so weird how people treat them as "secondary canon" when Scott has expressly said they are just as canon as the games. And that last point just doesn't make sense, the Mimic in RUIN is at a completely different point in time, it hasn't had a Tiger Plush, lace or real, for literal decades. The only physical Tiger Rock "suit" we've seen was made part of the Storyteller. To our knowledge it has never worn a real Tiger Suit. But again, there's no point for it in RUIN, it doesn't factor into its story at all. In RUIN its mimicking Gregory to trick Cassie, the Suit it wears is even an attempt to look like Gregory. But again, it's the literal Mimic, there, in RUIN, under the Pizzaplex in FFPS. What more do you need
@stephenredmond3739 parts of the ride could of been damaged after it being abandoned making it look less complete, and the safety concerns could of been found after she rode it
@stephenredmond3739 except this is fazbear entertainment were talking about. Having children test an unfinished ride with safety concerns wouldn't be in the top 10 worse things they've done.
Pretty sure that racers is just a nickname Cassie uses (Could even be the running concept before they changed it to raceway but she’s used to calling it that). Funny theory though!
@@sokaize its hinted that cassie's dad was a fazbear entertainment employee, so she may have had some free and early access to some things and tested the ride or something
I don’t know if the “you are number one - twice” is a reference to her birthday being 11/11, or just that her birthday is on the 11th day of some month
I thought Roxy referenced that Cassie raced on her raceway during her previous birthday party, at which none of her “friends” showed up, so she won twice by default.
@@The_Dumb_1_”Cassie. Cassie… Welcome back, Cassie.” (“You remember me?”) “Your special day. I remember.. your special day. Do you still like carrot cake? It has been sometime since I saw you last. If I remember correctly, it is on the 11th. I remember because you are number one - twice. Have you booked your party? I’m sure your friends will show up this time.” that is roxys whole little monologue. no mention of races/her winning twice. its because she was born on the eleventh of the month!
Cassy saying Roxy Racers is actually very realistic. It portrays a kid saying an abbreviation because they think it sounds cool. Very good touch by the devs.
The "Number 1, twice" line is actually a reference to how Cassie went to the Pizza Plex for her birthday two years in row! It also explains why Roxy says for Cassie to book her birthday there this year again, as we can assume Cassie's birthday hasn't come yet by the time we play as her due to this line.
The log ride is because her dad was a Faz technician so she got to ride the prototype of it before they shut it down and went fir Roxy racers'. Also it may have once been called Roxy Racers before, and she still calls it that even after it was renamed. And Roxy only was turned off temporarily, not permanently. The Freddy disappearing is because he was not linked to the VANNI network. It also explains why freddy couldn't see Vanny until he got Roxy's Eyes, which were linked to the network.
even if "roxy racers" isn't just a nickname cassie gave it, it could be the name of the attraction. Roxy Raceway is the name of the area in the pizzaplex, including the party garages and beauty salon, the actual attraction where you get to race on the raceway could be called roxy racers. And for the log ride, it has been shown that her dad was a faz-technician, he probably let her try out the ride before it was opened.
"this is the worst theory!" *proceeds to explain a very interesting and plausible theory that makes much more sense than what probably actually happens*
24:46 Can't believe you remember THAT existed. They since shut it down sadly. Hey, you know what would make a good game, a game inspired by Magiquest that the whole deal is you visiting the abandoned attraction for the hell of it, and finding truth in horror
@@smallhead9685 You're both wrong. If you actually play the game and actually witness the cutscene in full, Roxy specifically says that the birthday was on the 11th day of an undisclosed month lmao
….. and just when I thought the FNAF timeline theories couldn’t get even more convoluted, this dude brings ALTERNATIVE REALITIES!? MatPat, is going to need to be hospitalized if he hear this! 😅
silly stuff because fnaf is my special interest and i LOVE crack theories, but also love to poke holes in them with canon; 1. roxy is likely just getting a reboot, as that is almost exactly the same way we rebooted the daycare attendant (with the fazwrench and while wearing the mask). why its delayed, i dont know (she is in worse condition than the daycare attendant - so it could be that? or her systems just take longer to get online than the daycare attendant’s. or its because there are seemingly three ais in the daycare attendant, only sun and moon were active, so it had eclipse to fall back on? sun DOES only talk to us again after were removed from the daycare - so perhaps since roxy only has one ai in there and that ai was being rebooted, she appeared offline? 2. within the confines of the game, the ar mask IS actually an alternate reality! its a whole different map you get teleported into im pretty sure. thats not _really_ anything on the theory, just funny to me. but it could be a “parallel planes of reality” thing with the mask, like people sometimes talk about ghosts being in, and thats why cassie can go through walls. (the idea with the ghost thing is that, in the plane of existence ghosts are on, there wasnt a wall there before, so they look like theyre going through a wall to us, lol) 3. nitpick about the reasons why the theory is busted section; im pretty sure we only know that cassies birthday is on the eleventh day of the month, i dont think theres anything about it being in the eleventh month. i may have missed it, tho. id love to have a canon birthday for her.
My theory for Ruin is that Steel Wool is incompetent and that’s why the story has so many holes, but that theory might be a little too far fetched ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“You are number one , twice” means that on that day she turned 11 and Roxy is either trying to say she’s number one or she actually doesn’t know how to say how old she turned (11) because they don’t have birthdays , she just celebrated them.
Explanation for Roxy's "ressurection": When Cassie "deactivated" Roxanne, she actually reboots Roxy, like with the Daycare Attendant. That's why Roxy is able to protect us against the hostile Mimic.
What I think about the log ride is that since her father worked in the pizzaplex it’s possible she was allowed to test ride the log ride before they decided against the log ride
My theory is that whatever chip or implant that was put into her brain when she first got the mask is affecting her mind causing her to think of things that never actually occurred
This would be an interesting theory, except that Roxy Racers is the name of the actual go-karting attraction, located in the Roxy Raceway area, when she says "under Roxy Racers" she's talking about underneath the actual track, and not the entire area as a whole.
I mean based on how base security breach has your own save files bleeding into each other like timelines getting tangled up in a knot or how often you get throttled back and fourth through time and space within the pizzaplex… its not that implausible. Hell the mask was so jank that I remember matty accidentally skipping an entire section without realizing it because of how often the mask seems to teleport you around. But overall my favorite theory is that this entire time cassy has just been stuck walking into a corner thinking she’s walking through walls because Vanny also would get stuck running into objects
Isn't Roxy racers a different thing than Roxy raceway? Like, the raceway is the area, but I thought Roxy racers was like, a go-cart game at the pizzaplex? Not an actual mini game of course, but like, a go-cart game in the lore.
Freddy disappearing when you wear the mask shows that he isn’t connected to the Pizzaplex System. Freddy was in Safe Mode when he rebooted in the base game, so he’s disconnected. The Mask is like looking through the AI system, seeing what is and isn’t connected. As for the thing where we can phase through walls, could mean that maybe there are things I reality that’s are an illusion that aren’t real, and the mask helps us know the difference. As for the teleporting through a glitch door, that’s something even I can’t explain. XD Regardless, Ruin is an amazing DLC. 👌😀
I interpreted roxys “you were number one… twice” as Cassie being the most important person there for the day (aka her birthday) 2 times. The fact that her dad is an engineer for the pizza plex fits in with this idea
Cassie's dad did work at the pizzaplex since he knew how Bonnie died but wouldn't tell Cassie and he let her ride the foxy log ride and her Bday isn't on the 11th of the 11th, we don't know what month her birthday is in
Personally I don't really see the name difference a big deal because as a kid I had my own name for places I liked. Like, I called a play area 'Boing Boing' because it had a row of trampolines. It was my favourite place to go as a kid and my parents would always know what I was talking about.
But it might actually make sense, Roxy’s endo is different to to that on the main game, in the main game there was only 1 music man model but in here there are loads. There are different levels on the Monty golf, these levels all have the augmented reality texture somewhere in the level. Chica has a bakery which I’m not entirely sure of it’s in the main game and Cassie aquires a new voice box for chica where in the main game there is only one which is given to Freddy to get the True Ending.
Maybe when they were gonna test the log ride, Cassie's dad decided to let her daughter test it, because she really wanted to, just a reference to purple guy and Elizabeth/ice cream girl
She rode the log flume ride because her dad works there, and they needed volunteers to do a test running for the ride. When Cassie and a few other workers kids told the construction workers that it was incomplete or didn't feel right, they continued construction, until eventually the pizza plex closed down.
-Freddy disappears due to his head no longer being attached and, as a whole, not connected to the V.A.N.N.I Network. Also he's the only one that disappears. -Roxy "died" because using the mask is the only way to access the nodes. Also Sun-Moon got the same treatment but was turned into Eclipse. Rebooted, not killed. -I misnamed a few things when I don't hear them years apart. And Cassie is still pretty young so it's plausible.
Small note on banban: he isn't actually the scientist guy he says he is. Some of his dna was used, so he *thinks* he is, but they are two separate characters.
Oh god. He's becoming a Fnaf theorist
But hey thats just a theory A FREDDY THEORY
He is the Freddy of the real world
@@A120AMIR12 yes
Yea
MATPAT JR!!!
Someone call matpat we got a lead on Cassie #2
Hello there Yahaha
Oh my God there's 2 of em
@@Campion_7 Yes there is 2 of Fredrick the korok and even more
Yahaha!
@@Moxzii_isnt_real Yahaha! Fellow cdot fan
Dont worry, its not the most ridiculous ruin theory
*Stares at Mark intensly*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
wdym the bowling ball exploding on Rockstar Bonnie makes so much sense
Yes, mmhm
Naw, his theory is the most sound 😆
@@Manlikegibbon
GLAMROCK Bonnie*
There is already a Rockstar Bonnie, but it's not the dead Bonnie in ruin
Someone force matpat to look into this, this is an incredible theory no matter how "wacky" it sounds! Id be really surprised if this was the case
@The Game Theorists
@GameThoery
@GTLive ash, do somthing with this
@The Game Therorist
IM PRAYING THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THE BOOKS WERE THEIR OWN UNIVERSE AND WITH CURRENT ONES IT DIRECTLY CONNECTS TO THE GAMES
this series has a time travelling ballpit i wouldnt write off anything at this point
The ballpit wasnt actual time travel, it spins a dream like state based on the agony inside
The books aren't intended to be canon, and including any book related content in Ruin was a huge mistake in my opinion. If the books are canon then also you've got pregnant middle aged men and sentient cacti.
@@JonesCrimson Quite literally all the books are confirmed canon including the weirder stories.
The Novel trilogy was addressed and explained from the start and explicitly states how it's canon and where it fits wirh the games, Frights was said to have stories directly connected to the games and it also directly follows from UCN, and Tales from **The Pizzaplex** was marketed to be "set in the world of the newest games" which is beyond any doubt true when they cross over so much, especially the Mimic appearing 1:1 in RUIN.
Not to mention the Freddy Files which also goes over all of this again.
The blatantly wrong idea they're just meant to be "parallels" or "hint at whats in the games" just doesn't make any logical sense. The argument boils down to minor inconsistencies from information handed accross multiple writers and mediums.
Frights is intentionally a side narrative with mostly new characters that get resolved in-between the events of UCN and Help Wanted, it *directly* ties into the events of the games and is incomplete without them. Although we do quite literally see Andrew in UCN, for the most part we don't need to see those characters or that story in the games.
Tales is even more ridiculous because the arguments used have no basis and again, the games and book stories are incomplete without complimenting eachother.
There's just no reason for them not to be one timeline from a reading or writing standpoint, but people are seriously arguing that Scott (or the handful of other writers on the book series) chose to make near identical timelines different so there could be minor date or timeline inconsistencies. And again, with the direct and clear cut appearance of *the Mimic* in RUIN, people still arguing otherwise are coping so hard and/or look only to MatPat
@@dousc7579when you say minor differences, do you mean literal names, dates and series of events? Yeah no, they are meant to be in their own continuity, even when there are details crossing over. There was never a Charlie bot in the games, nor Baby's version of her in the games, but we know how remnant works. The later books introduced agony and what it can do, as well as ideas that could be introduced in game timeline. Pizzaplex books introduce the mimic and what it does, we never got the tiger animatronic nor even a plushtoy. ID's fantasy explained the concept pretty neatly
@@MrIljuha2000 @MrIljuha2000 Please give me examples of inconsistencies with names, dates, and series of events. When *i* say minor inconsistencies I acknowledge that some dates are a little cramped or iffy, such as the Mimic's creation or Larson's comment about the FFPS fire, but the intention for it to be one story is very obvious, and it makes no sense to suggest slightly fudged numbers are the only differences Scott added to say these are different timelines. There's just zero point to it.
I didn’t say TFC Baby or the Charlie bots were in the games, I explicitly said the Novels are a different case to Frights and Tales. But still, Remnant and specifically agony remnant are explained even as far back as The Silver Eyes. Remnant has never been explained in the games themselves. It's so weird how people treat them as "secondary canon" when Scott has expressly said they are just as canon as the games.
And that last point just doesn't make sense, the Mimic in RUIN is at a completely different point in time, it hasn't had a Tiger Plush, lace or real, for literal decades. The only physical Tiger Rock "suit" we've seen was made part of the Storyteller. To our knowledge it has never worn a real Tiger Suit. But again, there's no point for it in RUIN, it doesn't factor into its story at all. In RUIN its mimicking Gregory to trick Cassie, the Suit it wears is even an attempt to look like Gregory. But again, it's the literal Mimic, there, in RUIN, under the Pizzaplex in FFPS. What more do you need
for me the big thing isnt cassy saying a wrong name, but that log ride text brings so much into question
Her dad was a technician, he probably was allowed to have her ride it because employee benefits.
yea theory stands that she could have been something akin to a test audience being a nepobaby @@syweb2
@@syweb2but if they hadn't finished the ride it could be realuy dangerous to ride it so the theory stands
@stephenredmond3739 parts of the ride could of been damaged after it being abandoned making it look less complete, and the safety concerns could of been found after she rode it
@stephenredmond3739 except this is fazbear entertainment were talking about. Having children test an unfinished ride with safety concerns wouldn't be in the top 10 worse things they've done.
Pretty sure that racers is just a nickname Cassie uses (Could even be the running concept before they changed it to raceway but she’s used to calling it that). Funny theory though!
but gregory called it that first so it would have to be a nickname he gave it too
@@jeffery9543 can confirm the mimic does not, it just says raceway
Log ride explanation?
@@sokaize its hinted that cassie's dad was a fazbear entertainment employee, so she may have had some free and early access to some things and tested the ride or something
@@Starxii_-ub8ytI don't think a parent would tell their child to get on an unfinished ride
I don’t know if the “you are number one - twice” is a reference to her birthday being 11/11, or just that her birthday is on the 11th day of some month
Its because she turned 11
I thought Roxy referenced that Cassie raced on her raceway during her previous birthday party, at which none of her “friends” showed up, so she won twice by default.
Its because its on the 11th
it's because SHE WON TWICE AT THE RACE, WHY ARE PEOPLE OVERCOMPLICATING THIS???!
@@The_Dumb_1_”Cassie. Cassie… Welcome back, Cassie.” (“You remember me?”) “Your special day. I remember.. your special day. Do you still like carrot cake? It has been sometime since I saw you last. If I remember correctly, it is on the 11th. I remember because you are number one - twice. Have you booked your party? I’m sure your friends will show up this time.”
that is roxys whole little monologue. no mention of races/her winning twice. its because she was born on the eleventh of the month!
Honestly I just assumed Roxy Racers was like a nickname she had for the attraction.
So many people have used slightly incorrect names for things, it's hardly unusual for Cassie to do the same.
@@syweb2 exactly. I’ve given rides at Disneyland nicknames so I can see Cassie doing the same for Roxy raceway.
Backseat matpat confirmed?
yes, he is the matpat junior
Backpat
Someone call matpat he solved it!
Quick ring *Lore* or *Theory* alarm!
We need a cross over
WE NEED A CALLAB!
no no we need markiplier from game theory. have you no knowledge of five evening at fredericks?
@@soulsearcher9620Compromise, we need Mack.
Cassie's birthday isn't on 11/11, it's on the 11th of an unknown month.
Or it could have been her 11th birthday
Anything but september.
@@Semper_Fidelis_ what's wrong with september?
@@ApocalypticJay 9/11
@@def3ndr887 ...oh...
My eyes have been cleared of the wool pulled over my eyes by matthew patthew
The.... steel wool?
@@gaIIowsCaIibrator👏👏👏
Wait how did you do that it’s made out of steel
Cassy saying Roxy Racers is actually very realistic. It portrays a kid saying an abbreviation because they think it sounds cool. Very good touch by the devs.
Roxy's "revival" is explained by eclipse happening,we rebooted them the same way we did to Roxy,so she never died
Cassie rebooted moon and we dont see moon again only eclipse
@@stephenredmond3739eclipse is a mix, that’s why he’s called ECLIPSE!
@@stephenredmond3739 that's why I refered to *them* no sun/moon
@@stephenredmond3739we can hear sun talking after that, so it's safe to assume moon isn't dead, just locked away as long as the lights are on
The "Number 1, twice" line is actually a reference to how Cassie went to the Pizza Plex for her birthday two years in row! It also explains why Roxy says for Cassie to book her birthday there this year again, as we can assume Cassie's birthday hasn't come yet by the time we play as her due to this line.
no literally she says she remembers her birthday is the 11th because its number 1 twice 💀
The log ride is because her dad was a Faz technician so she got to ride the prototype of it before they shut it down and went fir Roxy racers'. Also it may have once been called Roxy Racers before, and she still calls it that even after it was renamed. And Roxy only was turned off temporarily, not permanently. The Freddy disappearing is because he was not linked to the VANNI network. It also explains why freddy couldn't see Vanny until he got Roxy's Eyes, which were linked to the network.
"You are #1... twice." Pure gold.
even if "roxy racers" isn't just a nickname cassie gave it, it could be the name of the attraction. Roxy Raceway is the name of the area in the pizzaplex, including the party garages and beauty salon, the actual attraction where you get to race on the raceway could be called roxy racers. And for the log ride, it has been shown that her dad was a faz-technician, he probably let her try out the ride before it was opened.
This still makes more sense then the books.
ehh, why not. alternate universes! add it to the pile!
If Cassie's dad was working at the Pizzaplex ,Cassie whould get early on the ride,but it really looks unfinished lol
wouldn’t be the most crackpot fnaf theory
"this is the worst theory!" *proceeds to explain a very interesting and plausible theory that makes much more sense than what probably actually happens*
But the last second…
It's "Mapbot controls the Pizzaplex" all over again
24:46 Can't believe you remember THAT existed. They since shut it down sadly.
Hey, you know what would make a good game, a game inspired by Magiquest that the whole deal is you visiting the abandoned attraction for the hell of it, and finding truth in horror
Wouldn't be the weirdest theory on the planet...
(Looking at you Fuhnaff's "Fredbear is actually Funtime Freddy" theory)
i must be delusional asf because this sounds like a good possibility
SOMEONE GET GAME THEORY
i thought "you are number one, twice!" means she had two birthdays at the pizzaplex lmao
This is an interesting theory to be honest
This just sounds like an excuse to say the floor stopping him from getting to Bonnie dissent exist
I think the "You're number 1, twice" is a reference to the fact that it was her 11th birthday party
cool but i think its also because no one came to her party so Roxy let her win, Twice.
@@smallhead9685 You're both wrong. If you actually play the game and actually witness the cutscene in full, Roxy specifically says that the birthday was on the 11th day of an undisclosed month lmao
@@SnoFitzroy sorry i can't its not on Xbox and i won't buy a ps4(5) just to play a game
@@smallhead9685is it not on Steam?
@@theorganizer27 idk why would that make a difference? whats steam?
considering the Mimic actually managed to get into the game. safe to say this is a convincing theory.
we need ruin neckless
Mat pat has done a lot more with a lot less
@foxy-48514, probably why is called Game Theory and not Game Facts.
@foxy-48514 you should make your own theories then, so you can show him how to do it better.
@@MaryAshleyB Game Conspiracy Theory, more like
“It’s just a theory, A BACKSEAT THEORY”
Dude, it's fnaf. Any theory is a possibility with something to back it up
….. and just when I thought the FNAF timeline theories couldn’t get even more convoluted, this dude brings ALTERNATIVE REALITIES!?
MatPat, is going to need to be hospitalized if he hear this! 😅
ngl I thought there were already multiple separate canon timelines, as that's what it seems the books are.
Average MatPat theory for literally almost every other franchise (as well as the protagonist is the bad guy theory).
This gives the “Sans is Ness” theory a real run for its money.
i thought roxy saying "you are number 1 twice" was her remembering cassie's 11th birthday
Never knew that a guy that breaks games all the time would become a theorist 💀
Matpats gonna find this theory and make at least a 20 min video on it
It hurts me that this could be a possibility.
Then again we did have an entire game that was from a child in a coma
We found the 5th Matthew Patrick Channel 🤯
Still a better theory than the Gregbot theory.
silly stuff because fnaf is my special interest and i LOVE crack theories, but also love to poke holes in them with canon;
1. roxy is likely just getting a reboot, as that is almost exactly the same way we rebooted the daycare attendant (with the fazwrench and while wearing the mask). why its delayed, i dont know (she is in worse condition than the daycare attendant - so it could be that? or her systems just take longer to get online than the daycare attendant’s. or its because there are seemingly three ais in the daycare attendant, only sun and moon were active, so it had eclipse to fall back on? sun DOES only talk to us again after were removed from the daycare - so perhaps since roxy only has one ai in there and that ai was being rebooted, she appeared offline?
2. within the confines of the game, the ar mask IS actually an alternate reality! its a whole different map you get teleported into im pretty sure. thats not _really_ anything on the theory, just funny to me. but it could be a “parallel planes of reality” thing with the mask, like people sometimes talk about ghosts being in, and thats why cassie can go through walls. (the idea with the ghost thing is that, in the plane of existence ghosts are on, there wasnt a wall there before, so they look like theyre going through a wall to us, lol)
3. nitpick about the reasons why the theory is busted section; im pretty sure we only know that cassies birthday is on the eleventh day of the month, i dont think theres anything about it being in the eleventh month. i may have missed it, tho. id love to have a canon birthday for her.
My theory for Ruin is that Steel Wool is incompetent and that’s why the story has so many holes, but that theory might be a little too far fetched ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
WHAT?! The company who can't even make a scary game without it being in vr is incompetent?!
@@TheLogrealI know. I really shouldn’t make such outrageous claims. I’ll make my apology video tomorrow.
There are no ploy holes
They dont make the story
Also what plotholes
I always interpreted roxy saying cassie is "number one, twice" in the sense that they raced eachother and she had beat roxy twice
"I have the most ridiculous theory"
Dawko: "Toy Chica is William Afton"
“You are number one , twice” means that on that day she turned 11 and Roxy is either trying to say she’s number one or she actually doesn’t know how to say how old she turned (11) because they don’t have birthdays , she just celebrated them.
I hate how this actually makes sense.
Plus the cutouts of cassie that show up at that one bit look different to the cassie in the starting cutscene
And he’s barely played the other games, absolute king 👑
Im pretty sure the 'number 1 twice' line was referring to her turning 11
Explanation for Roxy's "ressurection":
When Cassie "deactivated" Roxanne, she actually reboots Roxy, like with the Daycare Attendant. That's why Roxy is able to protect us against the hostile Mimic.
Everything gotta do with the multiverse now💀
Bro combined the spider verse with FNaF and I love this dude
The log ride is prob captain foxys log ride, as an Easter egg to help wanted curse of dread bear
What I think about the log ride is that since her father worked in the pizzaplex it’s possible she was allowed to test ride the log ride before they decided against the log ride
Here dad was a technician so she might have ridden it to test its safety
the number one twice just refers to the number 11 in general, no her birthday's precise date, just it was on the 11th
Backstreet said “Helpi” instead of “Helpy”, he must be from a different timeline.
This is hilarious but to be absolutely fair, Helpi is how they spell the AR assistant version's name in the game
If you approach sun/moon/eclipse with the VANNI mask on, he says “No! Not me! The other me!” And you have to take the mask off to fix him.
FNAF: Across The FNAFverse
Gotta love how mattpat's gonna turn a simple youtube short into a 5 hour re-analysis of the entire fnaf lore
Also, if they were to Cassie’s, why does the daycare attended treat them like the same person?
My theory is that whatever chip or implant that was put into her brain when she first got the mask is affecting her mind causing her to think of things that never actually occurred
This would be an interesting theory, except that Roxy Racers is the name of the actual go-karting attraction, located in the Roxy Raceway area, when she says "under Roxy Racers" she's talking about underneath the actual track, and not the entire area as a whole.
Just like how the Superstar Daycare has the Daycare Play Area, the Fazbear Theater, and the Lucky Star's gift shop.
You know things have gotten wild when this is considerably tame compared to most FNAF theories * judgmentally stares at the Ball Pit *
After books, everything can be in fnaf.
I believe that Roxy actually says
“ I remember because you were number one. Twice. “
Because Cassie won at the racing game twice but i dunno 🤷♀️
I mean based on how base security breach has your own save files bleeding into each other like timelines getting tangled up in a knot or how often you get throttled back and fourth through time and space within the pizzaplex… its not that implausible. Hell the mask was so jank that I remember matty accidentally skipping an entire section without realizing it because of how often the mask seems to teleport you around. But overall my favorite theory is that this entire time cassy has just been stuck walking into a corner thinking she’s walking through walls because Vanny also would get stuck running into objects
Isn't Roxy racers a different thing than Roxy raceway? Like, the raceway is the area, but I thought Roxy racers was like, a go-cart game at the pizzaplex? Not an actual mini game of course, but like, a go-cart game in the lore.
With how convoluted the timeline is, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Freddy disappearing when you wear the mask shows that he isn’t connected to the Pizzaplex System. Freddy was in Safe Mode when he rebooted in the base game, so he’s disconnected.
The Mask is like looking through the AI system, seeing what is and isn’t connected. As for the thing where we can phase through walls, could mean that maybe there are things I reality that’s are an illusion that aren’t real, and the mask helps us know the difference. As for the teleporting through a glitch door, that’s something even I can’t explain. XD
Regardless, Ruin is an amazing DLC. 👌😀
It sounds extremely accurate, especially when Roxy say, “you are number one, TWICE.” That could mean that she could see 2 Cassies.
I interpreted roxys “you were number one… twice” as Cassie being the most important person there for the day (aka her birthday) 2 times. The fact that her dad is an engineer for the pizza plex fits in with this idea
When roxy says "You are number one, twice"
*it means shes just 11*
Cassie's dad did work at the pizzaplex since he knew how Bonnie died but wouldn't tell Cassie and he let her ride the foxy log ride and her Bday isn't on the 11th of the 11th, we don't know what month her birthday is in
“Wouldn’t that be number one…four times?”
No roxy is bad at math starting from now thats my headcanon
Personally I don't really see the name difference a big deal because as a kid I had my own name for places I liked.
Like, I called a play area 'Boing Boing' because it had a row of trampolines. It was my favourite place to go as a kid and my parents would always know what I was talking about.
And all that because Mapbot messed with timelines in SB! It's all connected!!!
But it might actually make sense, Roxy’s endo is different to to that on the main game, in the main game there was only 1 music man model but in here there are loads. There are different levels on the Monty golf, these levels all have the augmented reality texture somewhere in the level. Chica has a bakery which I’m not entirely sure of it’s in the main game and Cassie aquires a new voice box for chica where in the main game there is only one which is given to Freddy to get the True Ending.
This wouldn’t even be the weirdest thing if it was true
Maybe when they were gonna test the log ride, Cassie's dad decided to let her daughter test it, because she really wanted to, just a reference to purple guy and Elizabeth/ice cream girl
She rode the log flume ride because her dad works there, and they needed volunteers to do a test running for the ride. When Cassie and a few other workers kids told the construction workers that it was incomplete or didn't feel right, they continued construction, until eventually the pizza plex closed down.
The FNAF universe is so ridiculous this has a realistic possiblity of being true
She rode the log ride bc her father works at fazbear entertainment
There is a goddamn log flume in a mall. As a theme park enthusiast I adore this
-Freddy disappears due to his head no longer being attached and, as a whole, not connected to the V.A.N.N.I Network. Also he's the only one that disappears.
-Roxy "died" because using the mask is the only way to access the nodes. Also Sun-Moon got the same treatment but was turned into Eclipse. Rebooted, not killed.
-I misnamed a few things when I don't hear them years apart. And Cassie is still pretty young so it's plausible.
I knew the bioshock infinite sequel was gonna take a weird turn, but I never expected this
Small note on banban: he isn't actually the scientist guy he says he is. Some of his dna was used, so he *thinks* he is, but they are two separate characters.
The "you are number one, twice" thing isn't referring to her birthday being 11/11 but to her age being 11, number one, twice.
I think Roxy Racers is probably an old name for it, or something like that
But hey that just a theory! A GAME THEORY!
Roxy said twice because,
-She ment Her and Cassie,
-She ment the 2 realities cassies.
Honestly, at this point, sure. Bring in the multiverse
I rather think the "you were number one, twice" refers to cassie literally beating roxy in her raceway twice, not cassies birthday.
-Marvin.