The idea that Freddy was taken out of the AI system because he was rebooted in safe mode could also help explain why Roxy saved Cassie despite having been shut off. Perhaps instead of actually shutting Roxy off, Cassie actually rebooted her (like the daycare attendant) and being rebooted into safe mode explains why she can be taken off the network (no longer being a security node) but still able to get up and save Cassie.
My theory is Gregory was actually at the pizzaplex when he contacts us before the chase, Walkie Talkie's don't have the best range after all. So I think he and or Vanessa rebooted Roxy, who quickly came down to rescue Cassie, and Gregory and or Vanessa destroyed the elevator (for what reasons, we don't know yet.)
At this point, with all the layers of old structures and caves that exist below the Pizzaplex, I can't help but imagine that it's located on a suspiciously large hill that towers above the surrounding city.
Roxy's endo isn't changed from the original SB at all in Ruin, she clearly put on another Endo face as a "mask" to hide her grotesque look after her snout probably fell off when the place collapsed. Furthermore while it does line up that the headless Freddy is the remains of Freddy from the main game, Steel Wool wouldn't have put "prototype" on his foot for no reason or as a design change from the base game.
Yeah, this probably ties into Freddys unused voiceline of "older models" (yeah he is probably talking about past games Freddys but it also could hint at past Glamrock Freddys)
Either way, it is leading that this Freddy is not on the Vanni like the Freddy we knew, and he doesn't have a head too. We might need more information as to why he is not the same Freddy if he isn't, cause there are more pros than cons for him being the same then for being a different one.
I think the reason Glamrock Freddy has prototype on his foot is because he was the first Glamrock animatronic made however since was so much of a success that he was promoted to main star. After all, what better way to experiment with advanced technology than with the face of your franchise. (Heck, it may even be the reason why he’s the one who glitches at the start of the game and not anyone else)
I think the 'Prototype' on Freddy's foot was more of a clarification from Steel Wool. We see and hear a few times in Security Breach that Freddy has glitched out at least once before, and that Freddy is the only one that has any power issues at all; the other animatronics don't need to recharge as often as Freddy does. Freddy also isn't sure if he's the first "Glamrock Freddy," implying that there may have been more Freddys before the Freddy we meet in Security Breach.
They say though that Freddy would be replaced by having his parts put onto another Endo they wouldn't need to do all that if there was another Freddy implying there is one casting per animatronic
you should totally translate this comment that i commented using google translate because i dont speak Burmese ငါပြောတဲ့အတိုင်း မင်းလုပ်ခဲ့တာလား။ နည်းနည်းရှက်စရာကောင်းတယ်မဟုတ်လား
Bro I just realized. John is probably going to have a field day with circus baby being made by Henry. Can't wait to see how he tries to justify it as a stolen Charliebot
Important detail someone pointed out. The Mimic's costume during the scooper ending looks like it was trying to *mimic* Gregory. Brown hair, blue shirt, bracelet on left hand to mimic the watch.
More evidence for the links between Ruin and SL is that in the Fredbear ending we hear Gregory saying “I found somewhere to hide” which I thought was way too similar to Baby talking about how they wanted to hide in Mike’s body, thus making me believe that it was the Mimic that gave that final Gregory voice line and Cassie got replaced Ennard style whilst she was hallucinating that final image for the ending.
Oh, and here's another thing; When Ennard replaces Michael in SL, he comes back, and I noticed something about the Brazil (Fredbear cutout) ending, when the mask is put on, the image slowly gets clearer, as if Cassie's consciousness is being uploaded to the VANNI network, meaning she could come back after being replaced by the mimic, Just like Mike comes back after being replaced
It’s kinda confirmed ig? Spoilers ahead for taps of the pizzaplex so skip: But in the latest epilogue a girl gets crushed bones and all by the mimic while it enters the suit she’s hiding and it wears it. So that explains it especially since the voice line is the same one it used before especially with the hyper ventilating from Cassie and the name and reference.
Not sure if this has already been touched on, but does the post-it note room from Security Breach have any more relevance now that Ruin has been released? Perhaps they were attempting to train it, before it was sealed away? It could even be proof of that the whole Edwin story may have some truth to it.
it’s pretty obvious that the story has been improvised over the years… but Scott’s ability to make every new part of the lore be parallel and make perfect sense with the older games is unmatched.
Remember when you had to watch the curtain to see if it had moved? And if it did then you have to close the vent so foxy wouldn’t get you. Simple times.
A thing I noticed: Sun and Moon have the same teeth as the Mimic. They used to be jesters, maybe they were from circus baby's? Meaning that the mimic was from that era. Kinda interesting.
Another thing to note is that sun and moon are an hardshell mask with an costume made of cloth draped over it. All other Animatronics are similar machine bodies with differrent glass fiber(?) Shells over them...sun and moon also fit into an circus theme with the baggy colorful pants...
Just want to say that, I'm amazed with how you make theories. I can't even imagine how the team must know ALL lines from FNAF to find all of this. Really mind blowing
It’s such a relief to know that the Princess quest ending is most likely canon and that Burntrap/Glitchtrap’s relationship with Afton might be more complicated than initially thought.
Now what if there were 2 timelines one with aftons ending on with princess quest that would be my most huge relief yet as the afton ending was said to be canon before ruin
@@justaperson1692yeah that’s what is confusing, because why would Gregory make up a version of spring trap when nobody has ever seen spring trap, and the blob/enard/funtime Freddy. Like some parts have to be cannon, plus there is a charging pod where Afton was, same as the ending. It just doesn’t make sense unless that means ruins not cannon or something which is most likely not the case.
If the FNAF series ever comes to an end, I seriously hope Cawthon releases an entire book explaining every single mystery and lore snippet that has been created as he has released each game and book. I would love to know which theories Matpat and the gang were spot-on about and which were completely false.
Lol I wonder if Cawthon even knows it all at this point, he's probably relied on awesome theorist communities to fill in the gaps for him! Which would be kind of cool to learn about after the fact.
Sadly, this MatPat video made me cringe hard. He got so many things wrong, that I would honestly hate to see him to try explain the Amalgamation and drag it into his craziness.
@@litzyantero5274 I can, but it would have to be after 7 as I am working right now. But I will break it down tonight for you, and you'll see why I said what I said.
@AdalineAlice I... think you meant to post this as your own comment instead of as a reply to me. Makes it sound like you're congratulating ME for the video when I had nothing to do with its creation 🙃
it was a smart shift to make, considering remnant and agony were pretty consistent with only being mentioned in the books it made making new fans to get into the lore difficult, to make games that retroactively take the books and shift the way the power scaling works in the series is brilliant.
@@chiryo1224 remnant is directly referenced in the egg baby ending of pizzeria sim and while agony isn't explicitly mentioned, it at least appears to be what still powers the blob
I’m glad that we also finally got the answer about Bonnie. I still don’t know how to feel about the Freddy we see be out Freddy. It feels like the “Prototype” being on his foot is really important. I’m excited to see the follow up for this theory.
It's very interesting to see both Matpat and Fuhnaff realized that the first 3 books are very closely related to Fnaf Ruin and future games. Goes to show how important these books are.
@@nanuqo2006 They aren't disregarding them, Matpat brings it up anytime the series connects to the lore at hand, such as when he brought up the mimic story. However, not every tale connects back to the lore of the franchise because the books are still in their own universe, even if they have parallels to the games.
Mat usually just echoes what the theories are on the fnaf sub, but he also usually credits ppl. So im not sure if they both thought of it separately on their own or if they theorized together
@@merry_whateverI’m guessing it was just a big coincidence or maybe they worked together behind the scenes as it does not take just a couple days to make a full game theory and johns video was only released a couple days ago
Well go figure, people come up with the same stuff if they have the same information.... It happens, you do not want to know how often I came up with a revolutionary book idea only to later find out, that the concept already existed and I am now afraid to get hunted by copyright should I write them..... One example I had monster hunting witches that gainers power through high risk herb and monster concoctions that either killed or forced mutation and either way rendered them infertile. They where protectors but dispised for humans fear what they do not understand and they tended to have inhuman attributes like unnatural hair and eye colors....... Their school was not high up in the mountains but hidden like avalon on an island in a lake behind a veil...... But otherwise it sounds hell like the witcher... Which I did not know when I was 14 and came up with this idea, but sure as hell already existed. And a more commen theory, everyone and their blind cat came up with r+l=j in asoiaf
About Freddy, I think it's also important to mention how in the base game, when he's in Parts and Service, Vanessa threatens him not by saying that he'll be replaced, but by saying that they'll "slap his casing on a new endo", which implies they don't have the ability to replace him. Furthermore, in the van ending where he leaves with Gregory, Monty ends up replacing him and Mr. Hippo fills the empty spot in the band. While comedic, it still shows us that Fazbear Ent. just doesn't have another Glamrock Freddy readily available to replace him if he's irreparably damaged, because he is a prototype. He's most likely the only one. In fact, I'm willing to bet that there's only one of each of the Glamrocks in existence. When Glamrock Bonnie disappears, they don't replace him with another Bonnie either, which shows they either don't have another, or making a new one isn't very feasible. Instead, he's replaced by Monty, and they don't even bother to rebrand the bowling alley.
The animatronics must gain sentience through self learning, but it is really hard for Fazbear to replicate for different endos. So when an animatronic dies and they can't copy him accurately, they just make a new character. Choosing an endo that they have trained, making him a skin that suits his character (angry Monty gets a Crocadile skin), and then wiping his memory of being an endo but leaving his character.
I love how Ruin makes use of camera, flashlight, and mask. Classic FNAF mechanics but now in 3D and over the top. Way better integrated than in the main Security Breach.
It would be hilarious if they made Mark's Bonnie theory cannon. I mean *obviously* Monty was just trying to be helpful and he was the one who placed the wet floor signs around Bonnie so no one else would get hurt.
That fact that MattPatt and John from Fuhnaff have curated and crafted such similar theories on their own excited me for the final end game. It’s so cool seeing Fuhnaff’s journey, and him rising the ranks as one of the best FNAF theory crafters out there, rivaling ol Matty Patty. You gotta love the come up
This actually makes finding chica’s voice box make more sense! For the princess quest ending, Freddy either has chica’s voice box or Monty’s claws. Prototype Freddy has Monty claws, but it’s unclear if it has Chica’s voice box. We can find and re-insert chica’s voice box because it wasn’t put into Freddy.
It actually would not make sense because the Vanny ending is part of Fazer Blast, so that means going Chica's path was canonically first and Monty's was second. Freddy should have the voice box regardless, but we find him without his head. The voice box isn't inside him, though it *should* be nearby Freddy along with Monty's claws. The only reason it isn't is most likely because it was part of an abandoned side quest.
Turns out he straight up steal a lot of other people's theories, not to say he doesn't make his own at times, but it's less impressive when you consider plagiarism
The bit about Henry in FNaF World and who made Circus Baby really brought this whole thing together for me and blew my mind into a million pieces. I love how you and John solved two big pieces of the current FNaF lore
I'm going to be completely honest. I come to these partly for the soap opera that is Five Nights lore, but mostly for Mattpat's energy while he delivers it.
Depends what Mat can offer John after ripping of his theory and shoe-horning it into this video. I can't be the only one who realize how rushed that part about the connection with the novels was? Mat is a fraud.
Ruin was such a blast to play, it really showed Steel Wool was correcting their mistakes and I really appreciate that! I'm also so happy for Matpat, he absolutely nailed the story in his last theory video! I'm also glad we're finally getting a new villain instead of Afton again haha
The fact that MatPat’s recent video actually feels like it could possibly be canon to the actual lore, means that MatPat has now starting to fully take it step by step and not go all out at once. The only thing now left to piece together is to figure out what truly did happen to Glamrock Bonnie.
Can we look for Foxy too? He's just gone and in sb, the kids cove is obviously inspired by him but it's shut down with "banned" written all over but we all seemed to breeze over that ?
There’s a secret cut out of Glamrock Bonnie in Monty Golf where he frozen falling in place. Since security logs in SB say Bonnie was last seen in Monty Golf, and because there’s claw marks on him. I think it’s safe to say Bonnie went up to the catwalks above Monty golf, And Monty attacked him and pushed him off.
when i was playing through ruin i freaked out when i found the caves with the glowing mushrooms because ALL i could think about was the parallel between the game and the twisted ones because i recently finished reading the novels, seeing you bring it up made me so happy 😭
Honestly, Baby being around or relevant even now makes sense to me. Reason being, Baby mentioning that we are in a Springlock suit on Night 4 felt so off. We never see what the suit looks like. But it implies that the Funtime Animatronics still had unanswered questions surrounding them. It just felt like such an odd thing to leave open ended
With reference to the daycare attendant and the 'why is he here' moment, I can say with certainty that he is here exclusively to make me happy. That is all and case closed, he is doing amazing 😂
I KNOWW it's so true like the daycare attendant is one of my new FAV animatronics ever since security breach first came out and hearing MatPat say 'daycare attendant' in the video honestly made my heart skip a beat from excitement for the return of the character
The usage of the Vanny masks reminds me of a certain Freddy mask back in Fnaf 2. The way the animatronics are unable to recognize you with it on is way too similar, only without the augmented reality part.
One note: the Vanny mask you use isn't the one Vanessa wore in SB, but it is the exact one used in Help Wanted alongside the Glitched Bonnie Plush to talk to Glitchtrap
Could be along the line of changes like Roxy's endo. But even then, Ruin had a bunch of wires in the mask, and Dreadbear's was a more flesh red interior.
Not to mention it's called a "security mask." Which might mean the security guards wear those as well. It might be possible that the Fazbear company was in on Glitchtrap's plans.
@@w1ndgeneral226could also just be that the security and maintenance staff wore some other AR gear, more appropriately themed, and Vanny just implemented those into her own mask, given Helpy is the AI assistant in the mask, plastered all over the pizzaplex maintenance stuff and is the mascot for the save stations, the original mask could've been Helpy masks, would make sense for the kids too, they see a bunch of helpys go around fixing stuff.
Yes and no, now we have an timeline inside a timeline, the smaller one existis inside the bigger one, but not the other way, like how fnaf isn’t affected by our reality, but the other way happens Basically one layer of reality and two of fantasy
@@follower8815 Basically: Pizzeria simulator and all the games that come before are just a game in the fnaf universe. Its like gwent in the witcher 3 or a game of poker in RDR2.
@@follower8815the first 5 games exist in our world and in the fnaf world fazbear entertainment pulled some facts and fiction from the different pizzerias and made the games fnaf 6 happened in reality so the events from the game are also canon to the universe as well security breach and the mobile game along with the vr game are all apart of a “separate reality” from the first 6 games
@@RamenBowl2.0 ah I see. So the fnaf universe has come to a close with fnaf 6. And a new universe has started with the pizzaplex. How does afton exist in the pizzaplex universe and why did matpat refer to fnaf 3 if both of these things are before the new story?
I do have a question... If Glamrock Freddy can't se Vanny at the beginning of Security Breach because of his "safe mode" and isn't capable of doing so until he gets Roxy's eyes, why is Gregory capable of seeing her from the start? Wouldn't it mean that Gregory is somehow connected with this AI?
I've started seeing Sun & Moon like this: Sun is the excited one that is there to be nice, but tends to take it up a bit too far, Moon is the slightly creepy one that keeps you from continuing to play, but is there to keep kids safe. When we see Eclipse first, his actions and way of speaking find the best sides of both. He tries to put you in a safe place, but does it in a nice and calm way.
what's interesting about the endings is that despite them apparently having been made up by Gregory, he still somehow knew about the existence of the blob, which we know is cannon in the games as it can be seen in the DLC, albeit for a split second. this could suggest that perhaps burntrap did exist. perhaps when Gregory went back down to seal away the mimic, he came across burntrap and the blob
I think instead of none of them existing, I think the stars indicate the order of events for what happened. It started off surface level, with Gregory trying to run away, and then fighting off Vanny by controlling the bots, the mall catching fire, Gregory meeting the blob and the springtrap again and finally, him freeing Vanessa and them all getting away. It’s the only explanation for the blob existing and Gregory knowing about it but springtrap not being in the basement as well
Exactly, why the Pizza Plex would be in such condition if it didn't set on fire. Besides, when Cassy enters the underground area it asks "Why there is an oven here". Glitchtrap was there. So my theory is that Gregory fought Glitchtrap, confronted Vanny, Freddy was disassembled, Gregory solved Princess Quest and saved Vanny and the head of Freddy before the AI took control again, the three escaped and now are working together.
Do you think that maybe the dialogue hidden in the SB game files of Freddy stating, “I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me.” “Those were other models- Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that, right?” , might have some relation to the prototype from Ruin possibly being different from the Freddy we see in SB?
Idk how he does this, but matpat really just connects all the wires and makes everything make sense, so smooth. And yes I know thats what theorists do but something about this is just so great. Really great work Matpat, you deserve some props for this one
Something I thought was interesting is that the walls you can walk through with the Vanny mask seem to be visually glitching, and I couldn't help but think about the illusion disks. You know, the ones that alter your perception of reality? The ones that made the blank animatronics with opening chest cavities look like Twisted animatronics? The Twisted animatronics that Freddy's body now bares a striking resemblance to...
Glad its confirmed that Gregory decided he was going to play an arcade game instead of turning the robots against Vanny in an attempt to stop everything.
Honestly, given the books and the story GGY, it makes so MUCH more sense for Gregory to spend his night playing arcade games. It also gives him a motive to be there in the first place: Find the Arcades that he hasn't played yet.
@@LeonardGreenpaw i mean, this theory isn't even something the game theory team came up with. the first half (with the mimic's circus costumes and alternative branding) was discovered and fleshed out by ryetoast, and the second half (with the scooper and the silver eyes series/fnaf sl/help wanted 2 connection) was completely done by fuhnaff.
Now that Matt has covered the “less” controversial elements of ruin, I’m excited to see how he tackles the idea of everything being in VR, Cassie’s dad, the existence of burntrap, the costumed mimic, and the scooper.
I like to find it interesting that out of all the animatronics, aside from Freddy of course, Roxy is the only one with a seemingly apparent personality, Monty was just destructive, and chica seemed mindless, but Roxy was infatuated with herself and knew she was a person. Well that’s what it seems to me at least.
Roxie does seem to be more aware/conscious than the others, I'm not sure if thats influenced by the fact that she IS so self-absorbed, but that in of itself has more "sentient" qualities than just "blind rage" and "mindless eating"
i like to think each animatronic will be "human" around children (aside from extraneous circumstances like gregory blinding roxy) but are otherwise how they are in SB
Someone suggested that her programming was extremely conflicted, she has the goal of beating everyone but that wouldn’t be fun so she was also programmed to always lose.
Matt I have a theory for you. The new ending to security breach where you go down to burntrap and play the mini game showing the mimic is the true ending but burntrap is the mimic and Afton controls it (purple eyes). After Gregory sees the mimic he has to run and leave the controlled Freddy’s body behind but saving his head. (Why Freddy attacks us). The bunny entity is also Afton and with Roxy, she escaped the mimics control.
The one thing I’m most excited for with the set is the fact there are pockets on the leggings. You almost never see pockets on any women’s clothing! *Thank you!!*
This’ll likely be buried, but…I learned this week that tigers in the wild can MIMIC prey to lure them in. I think this is why Tiger Rock is a form of the Mimic, intentional choice by design.
I feel Freddy having a prototype message on his foot is more significant than a design change. I think if it was the princess quest ending that was canon, burntrap would still be in his recharge station, and the blob would still be asleep.
ngl I just feel like since old willy is probably still inside his recharge station and because of the collapse of the Pizza plex he's just stuck inside of it and the Blob is just well roaming but not actively trying to capture everyone inside the Pizza plex. Probably on the next security breach we will just see Cassie still alive if Gregory didn't betray her also see Gregory's PoV outside actively trying to get to Cassie (We can hear intercom noises and the "Do you need assistance staff bot" has a chance to use the REAL gregory's voice trying to warn Cassie game files the Mimic using Gregory's voice is called Grimic while Gregory's real voice is still Gregory idk and if someone look into the elevator ending we can see if Gregory actually betrayed Cassie using the files) and they're just stuck there trying to survive till 6am (since Cassie did start in the day and who knows how long she's been there) while blind Roxy, the one arm Mimic and probably the Blob and old willy will be there too.
I agree about the prototype message, I feel like it's way too central to be a design change. It opens up an interesting direction for where Freddy is and his potential involvement with Gregory in the post-Ruin storyline (which might get explained in Help Wanted 2, who knows)
I have been frantically checking TH-cam waiting for a Game Theory video on Ruin:DLC. I wanted so bad to hear the joy in Mat’s voice when he realized he was right about the mimic. Picking up the lore from books and everything else to decide on the mimic being a possibility is awesome.
i love that matpat outed astralspiff as a speedrunner and said your welcome for this speedrun strat, and now when he does ruin challanges he calles that spot "matpat incident". it's beautiful
Matpat and his team are so talented , the fact they can look at tunnels with an ai animatronic and be like "oh yeah that reminds me of sister location"
Something Matpat should note before associating Ennard with the mimic specifically is that the Blob is actually in ruin, as noted by HorrorScoped, but it's a really brief flash and the Blob doesn't do anything in game other than hide from the player when you get to a specific location. 🤔
You know what's weird? Cassie's name is a lot like Cassidy. Now, It's prolly a coincidence, but it's weird that the two protags of Security Breach and its DLC are suspiciously like the two spirits in Fredbear. It is most likely a coincidence? Yes. Is it most likely untrue? Yes. Do they most likely have nothing to do with eachother? Most definitely. But still-
18:06 Yes! I had the exact same thought about the costumes leading back to fnaf 3! I remember back when Mat thought they were referring to the mediocre melodies, but this makes even more sense.
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The idea that Freddy was taken out of the AI system because he was rebooted in safe mode could also help explain why Roxy saved Cassie despite having been shut off. Perhaps instead of actually shutting Roxy off, Cassie actually rebooted her (like the daycare attendant) and being rebooted into safe mode explains why she can be taken off the network (no longer being a security node) but still able to get up and save Cassie.
Why is everybody so much better at Theorizing than me
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Now this makes so much more sense
My theory is Gregory was actually at the pizzaplex when he contacts us before the chase, Walkie Talkie's don't have the best range after all. So I think he and or Vanessa rebooted Roxy, who quickly came down to rescue Cassie, and Gregory and or Vanessa destroyed the elevator (for what reasons, we don't know yet.)
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I haven’t played a single fnaf game, but I have all this lore stored in my head for no reason at all.
Same
You got a point
same. I've binged watched markipliers whole fnaf playlist on repeat like 10 times. I know all the lore by heart
Same
ditto
At this point, with all the layers of old structures and caves that exist below the Pizzaplex, I can't help but imagine that it's located on a suspiciously large hill that towers above the surrounding city.
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next fnaf game is set in the core of the earth, under the pizzaplex
I've always just been curious how many km deep these locations are, if the pizzaplex mall is at ground level
@@bipbapboop1140 So what we're going to do when we emerge on the other side of the Earth? Go into space?
@@kevinwest7111FNaF 58: Freddy in Space😂 I think it's in FNaF World
Roxy's endo isn't changed from the original SB at all in Ruin, she clearly put on another Endo face as a "mask" to hide her grotesque look after her snout probably fell off when the place collapsed. Furthermore while it does line up that the headless Freddy is the remains of Freddy from the main game, Steel Wool wouldn't have put "prototype" on his foot for no reason or as a design change from the base game.
Yeah, this probably ties into Freddys unused voiceline of "older models" (yeah he is probably talking about past games Freddys but it also could hint at past Glamrock Freddys)
Either way, it is leading that this Freddy is not on the Vanni like the Freddy we knew, and he doesn't have a head too. We might need more information as to why he is not the same Freddy if he isn't, cause there are more pros than cons for him being the same then for being a different one.
I COME FROM THE FUTURE, you're pretty much right actually. she takes a mask in help wanted 2.
Yup it is a mask in help wanted 2 you’re supposed to give Roxy a makeover after her face got destroyed. She gets fed up then takes the mask
I think the reason Glamrock Freddy has prototype on his foot is because he was the first Glamrock animatronic made however since was so much of a success that he was promoted to main star. After all, what better way to experiment with advanced technology than with the face of your franchise. (Heck, it may even be the reason why he’s the one who glitches at the start of the game and not anyone else)
I think the 'Prototype' on Freddy's foot was more of a clarification from Steel Wool. We see and hear a few times in Security Breach that Freddy has glitched out at least once before, and that Freddy is the only one that has any power issues at all; the other animatronics don't need to recharge as often as Freddy does. Freddy also isn't sure if he's the first "Glamrock Freddy," implying that there may have been more Freddys before the Freddy we meet in Security Breach.
Actually…This makes sense
More Freddys than you can ever Freddy for Fazbear's
@@Aereto5 freddy’s at night
They say though that Freddy would be replaced by having his parts put onto another Endo they wouldn't need to do all that if there was another Freddy implying there is one casting per animatronic
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
Only Matpat would find a speed running strat looking for hidden lore in a fnaf dlc
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you should totally translate this comment that i commented using google translate because i dont speak Burmese
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Guess this means yet ANOTHER "Final FNAF Timeline" from Matpat is inevitable
Nah, give it 2 or 3 years first
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Let’s be honest… Matpat is inevitable
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Sounds like matpat is starting to enjoy fnaf lore again. Last few videos sounded like he was close to losing his sanity 😂
Every video sound like he's a loose canon ngl it's just MatPat
@@randomsavageperson2918He is Ness from fnaf, which is canon for real 😅
@@Покруч-я5э what does that have to do with like anything said here bro?
he's been losing his sanity over this lore since fnaf 4
looks like matpat is losing his sanity and uploading less, lets encourage him with a controlled shock!
I think the fact that Matpat and John have almost identical theories regarding the books is so cool.
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@DJILMarioBrosOfficialdon’t care
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialNuh uh.
John?
I was just coming to comment that. So true.
The Matpat Incident will be forever remembered as one of the most comedic contribution to the Speed-running Community.
ok
What did he do?
@@dadreiantennyson4489 he found a glitch that made him skip an entire chapter in the ruin dlc
He found a glitch that let him skip a huge section of the game, ironically it was a pretty lore heavy part
wasnt that found before he accidentally did it tho?
MatPat and John sharing a brain cell with these theories is the second funniest thing that came with this DLC, behind the *huge* collab 😂
And 3rd place goes to the monty dog memes
Exactly what I was thinking
Bro I just realized. John is probably going to have a field day with circus baby being made by Henry. Can't wait to see how he tries to justify it as a stolen Charliebot
Legit was thinking to myself how similar these theorys were to each other
And ryetoast too he was close w this idea but just didnt think the books
“Am I saying Cassie is Charlie? No. I might one day” is the perfect description of MatPat and ever-growing fnaf lore
you mean saying
The lore is actually starting to make sense now
Cap
Nice
Nice
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
Yeah, indeed.
Important detail someone pointed out. The Mimic's costume during the scooper ending looks like it was trying to *mimic* Gregory. Brown hair, blue shirt, bracelet on left hand to mimic the watch.
I've heard that before. It's quite a neat idea.
Oh you absolute genius
More evidence for the links between Ruin and SL is that in the Fredbear ending we hear Gregory saying “I found somewhere to hide” which I thought was way too similar to Baby talking about how they wanted to hide in Mike’s body, thus making me believe that it was the Mimic that gave that final Gregory voice line and Cassie got replaced Ennard style whilst she was hallucinating that final image for the ending.
Oh, and here's another thing; When Ennard replaces Michael in SL, he comes back, and I noticed something about the Brazil (Fredbear cutout) ending, when the mask is put on, the image slowly gets clearer, as if Cassie's consciousness is being uploaded to the VANNI network, meaning she could come back after being replaced by the mimic, Just like Mike comes back after being replaced
It’s kinda confirmed ig? Spoilers ahead for taps of the pizzaplex so skip:
But in the latest epilogue a girl gets crushed bones and all by the mimic while it enters the suit she’s hiding and it wears it. So that explains it especially since the voice line is the same one it used before especially with the hyper ventilating from Cassie and the name and reference.
Not sure if this has already been touched on, but does the post-it note room from Security Breach have any more relevance now that Ruin has been released? Perhaps they were attempting to train it, before it was sealed away? It could even be proof of that the whole Edwin story may have some truth to it.
Matpat truly never escapes FNaF huh? He’ll always come back.
Nah@DJILMarioBrosOfficial
Just like these bots 💀
@@mosterchife6045TH-cam BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE BOTS
The other OTHER Anti-Afton.
Nope.
The fact that the editors really labled it the "MatPat Incident" makes me wanna cry tears of joy for Spigg
I was going to mention spiff if no one else did but it was only 11 comments down yay
omg i know i was looking for a spigg enjoyer comment about it!
Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
it’s pretty obvious that the story has been improvised over the years… but Scott’s ability to make every new part of the lore be parallel and make perfect sense with the older games is unmatched.
Scott has mentioned that he has only retconned ONE thing across all the games.
So ether this was all planned from the start, or...
Idk about PERFECT sense, but yeah, it is pretty impressive.
@@librariantopokemon What was the thing he retconned?
Perfect sense isn’t a word I’d use.
@@jasonalen7459idk if it's confirmed or just speculation but afaik the general consensus is that he retconned the bite of '87 into the bite of '83
Remember when you had to watch the curtain to see if it had moved? And if it did then you have to close the vent so foxy wouldn’t get you. Simple times.
MatPat 2014: Freddy is our main enemy he will never die.
MatPat 2023: Rest In Peace Freddy
It is what it is 🤷♂️
@@MrAdd077 It is what it is
@@bones0013It is what it is.
@@Ruby2Pit is what it is
@@A.s2476it is what it is
Matpat is honestly surprising in how he can make lore from this dlc that doesn’t destroy all the hard work he has put in on other theories
Ruin DLC is the goat, it really tied up some loose ends on some theories
@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENT no
@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENTYou cant order me
I've been rewatching all the old theories, and god dang, Mat calling the timeline complicated at FNAF 3!? Wild looking back after all this
Ikr
A thing I noticed: Sun and Moon have the same teeth as the Mimic. They used to be jesters, maybe they were from circus baby's? Meaning that the mimic was from that era. Kinda interesting.
Another thing to note is that sun and moon are an hardshell mask with an costume made of cloth draped over it. All other Animatronics are similar machine bodies with differrent glass fiber(?) Shells over them...sun and moon also fit into an circus theme with the baggy colorful pants...
Just want to say that, I'm amazed with how you make theories. I can't even imagine how the team must know ALL lines from FNAF to find all of this. Really mind blowing
Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
because they don't...liek there's just straight WRONG info in this video 😭
@@sunnyd4zewhich info is wrong? If u don’t mind sharing
@@sunnyd4zewhich part is wrong?
Imagine Casey is the daughter of Michael
It’s such a relief to know that the Princess quest ending is most likely canon and that Burntrap/Glitchtrap’s relationship with Afton might be more complicated than initially thought.
Now what if there were 2 timelines one with aftons ending on with princess quest that would be my most huge relief yet as the afton ending was said to be canon before ruin
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
@@justaperson1692yeah that’s what is confusing, because why would Gregory make up a version of spring trap when nobody has ever seen spring trap, and the blob/enard/funtime Freddy. Like some parts have to be cannon, plus there is a charging pod where Afton was, same as the ending. It just doesn’t make sense unless that means ruins not cannon or something which is most likely not the case.
This would imply that Afton is still in Ultimate Custom Hell and that Burntrap is actually just the Mimic 'mimicking' Afton
@@uneducatedturtlemaybe Vanessa, after being freed, told Gregory about what happened and what she was forced to do.
If the FNAF series ever comes to an end, I seriously hope Cawthon releases an entire book explaining every single mystery and lore snippet that has been created as he has released each game and book. I would love to know which theories Matpat and the gang were spot-on about and which were completely false.
AGREED
Yesss
Lol I wonder if Cawthon even knows it all at this point, he's probably relied on awesome theorist communities to fill in the gaps for him! Which would be kind of cool to learn about after the fact.
I’d love to see how the blob ties into this. Like Gregory says the damages were cause by something escaping and the blob is sighted near the surface.
Sadly, this MatPat video made me cringe hard. He got so many things wrong, that I would honestly hate to see him to try explain the Amalgamation and drag it into his craziness.
@@tonyf4991 Could you explain what he got wrong? Not trying to be rude js genuinely curious
@@litzyantero5274 I can, but it would have to be after 7 as I am working right now. But I will break it down tonight for you, and you'll see why I said what I said.
@@litzyantero5274 I hope all this helped.
@@tonyf4991Sadly nothing will top the cringe of your profile pic
It’s so cool to see how far Matpat and his Team have come, that merch segment is honestly pretty cool
sure its cool but nobodys catching me wearing a shirt with a youtubers name on it
@@notawamen2311yeah.. same
@@notawamen2311straight up 😭
Exitly right
I love Matpat and his team, but... How is plastic merch, likely sewn in China, likely by children, "cool"?
I was laughing as I watched Markiplier playing the game when it got to The Mimic.
My literal first thoughts were "MatPat was right on the money here"
I bet everyone that denied it and thought it was stupid felt really dumb that day when that scene happened. 😅 Never underestimate Mattpatt haha
@@jaydabomb2510 Even if Mat was wrong we all have to remember it was just a Theory A *GAME THEORY!*
I loved watching Mark call out MatPat in his video 😂
@@legendarytronic7774thanks for watching
@AdalineAlice I... think you meant to post this as your own comment instead of as a reply to me.
Makes it sound like you're congratulating ME for the video when I had nothing to do with its creation 🙃
this franchise went from reminent and agony to AI very quickly.
Ai is a lot more dangerous in real life than you might think, my friend
True, also remnant not reminent
Meh , never really liked the remnant stuff but AI has my attention
it was a smart shift to make, considering remnant and agony were pretty consistent with only being mentioned in the books it made making new fans to get into the lore difficult, to make games that retroactively take the books and shift the way the power scaling works in the series is brilliant.
@@chiryo1224 remnant is directly referenced in the egg baby ending of pizzeria sim and while agony isn't explicitly mentioned, it at least appears to be what still powers the blob
I’m glad that we also finally got the answer about Bonnie. I still don’t know how to feel about the Freddy we see be out Freddy. It feels like the “Prototype” being on his foot is really important. I’m excited to see the follow up for this theory.
wow Matpat finds lore that doesn't burn absolutely every one of his brain cells!
Fick five frendy
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialshut
@I_hatenegros1 what you only made one video that just a clip
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94just stop literally no one will read your name
@I_hatenegros1explains why u have 7 subscribers
It's very interesting to see both Matpat and Fuhnaff realized that the first 3 books are very closely related to Fnaf Ruin and future games. Goes to show how important these books are.
Why are they completely disregarding Tales From The Pizzaplex then
@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENT we don't talk about those
@@nanuqo2006 Because only some parts are actually relevant to the major lore of the game, like for example The Mimic and GGY.
Yea maybe they talked together
@@nanuqo2006 They aren't disregarding them, Matpat brings it up anytime the series connects to the lore at hand, such as when he brought up the mimic story. However, not every tale connects back to the lore of the franchise because the books are still in their own universe, even if they have parallels to the games.
I find it very interesting that John Fuhnaff and Matpat came up with such similar theories seemingly separately
was looking for this
Mat usually just echoes what the theories are on the fnaf sub, but he also usually credits ppl. So im not sure if they both thought of it separately on their own or if they theorized together
I think ryetoast also had something similar
@@merry_whateverI’m guessing it was just a big coincidence or maybe they worked together behind the scenes as it does not take just a couple days to make a full game theory and johns video was only released a couple days ago
Well go figure, people come up with the same stuff if they have the same information.... It happens, you do not want to know how often I came up with a revolutionary book idea only to later find out, that the concept already existed and I am now afraid to get hunted by copyright should I write them..... One example I had monster hunting witches that gainers power through high risk herb and monster concoctions that either killed or forced mutation and either way rendered them infertile. They where protectors but dispised for humans fear what they do not understand and they tended to have inhuman attributes like unnatural hair and eye colors....... Their school was not high up in the mountains but hidden like avalon on an island in a lake behind a veil...... But otherwise it sounds hell like the witcher... Which I did not know when I was 14 and came up with this idea, but sure as hell already existed.
And a more commen theory, everyone and their blind cat came up with r+l=j in asoiaf
so cool to see how far Matpat and his Team have come, that merch segment is honestly pretty cool
About Freddy, I think it's also important to mention how in the base game, when he's in Parts and Service, Vanessa threatens him not by saying that he'll be replaced, but by saying that they'll "slap his casing on a new endo", which implies they don't have the ability to replace him. Furthermore, in the van ending where he leaves with Gregory, Monty ends up replacing him and Mr. Hippo fills the empty spot in the band. While comedic, it still shows us that Fazbear Ent. just doesn't have another Glamrock Freddy readily available to replace him if he's irreparably damaged, because he is a prototype. He's most likely the only one.
In fact, I'm willing to bet that there's only one of each of the Glamrocks in existence. When Glamrock Bonnie disappears, they don't replace him with another Bonnie either, which shows they either don't have another, or making a new one isn't very feasible. Instead, he's replaced by Monty, and they don't even bother to rebrand the bowling alley.
The animatronics must gain sentience through self learning, but it is really hard for Fazbear to replicate for different endos. So when an animatronic dies and they can't copy him accurately, they just make a new character. Choosing an endo that they have trained, making him a skin that suits his character (angry Monty gets a Crocadile skin), and then wiping his memory of being an endo but leaving his character.
This is why Fazbear would love to have a mimic program!
Loved the slow escalation of book lore in the games from “namedrop of William Afton in SL” to “Mimic showing up with zero buildup”
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean to be fair afton showed up a ton before the books were even out
William Afton was named droped in the silver eyes first before sister location 😐
@@sammyjaohnson5631book name drop and game name drop are not the same, they’re different canons.
@@sammyjaohnson5631 yeah, I’m saying that was the beginning of the integration of book lore into the games
I love how Ruin makes use of camera, flashlight, and mask. Classic FNAF mechanics but now in 3D and over the top. Way better integrated than in the main Security Breach.
In the cameras you can use sound to lure them away... so the first 3 games
"they seem to react to your flashlight for whatever reason"
they did it guys
"somehow palpatine returned" is used as a legit way to explain plotholes
Imagine one day, MatPat will do a theory on Glamrock Bonnie except it will be Markiplier’s theory to be more canon in the lore.
MatPat will go crazy if so 😂
@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENTjokes on you bot, that is my native language
@@sulembape695 bot defeated!
It would be hilarious if they made Mark's Bonnie theory cannon. I mean *obviously* Monty was just trying to be helpful and he was the one who placed the wet floor signs around Bonnie so no one else would get hurt.
Ruin's got me back into the FNAF lore stuff on a level Security Breach couldn't imagine. I'm impressed Steel Wool improved so much.
sameee I love this dlc so much
Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
That fact that MattPatt and John from Fuhnaff have curated and crafted such similar theories on their own excited me for the final end game. It’s so cool seeing Fuhnaff’s journey, and him rising the ranks as one of the best FNAF theory crafters out there, rivaling ol Matty Patty. You gotta love the come up
There is a difference between being the best and being popular
@@Joshchivedamn man no need to hate
@@qu1ckl1zard73 I ain't hatin' but saying he's one of the "best" FNAF theorists is subjective
"the best" only applies to matpat btw
@@orewaren8549 that's even more subjective. He's popular theorist doesn't make him the best either. Not bad by any means but he's not the best.
This actually makes finding chica’s voice box make more sense! For the princess quest ending, Freddy either has chica’s voice box or Monty’s claws. Prototype Freddy has Monty claws, but it’s unclear if it has Chica’s voice box. We can find and re-insert chica’s voice box because it wasn’t put into Freddy.
It wouldnt explain why she is so damadged (most of the damage caused by gregory) and has zero voice box
It actually would not make sense because the Vanny ending is part of Fazer Blast, so that means going Chica's path was canonically first and Monty's was second. Freddy should have the voice box regardless, but we find him without his head. The voice box isn't inside him, though it *should* be nearby Freddy along with Monty's claws. The only reason it isn't is most likely because it was part of an abandoned side quest.
I literally cannot understand how matpat can come up with this stuff, it’s so insanely impressive
I mean, it’s not hard. Ruin is very explicit with its story
Alot of drugs, presumably, disguised as diet Coke
@@KryptoKn8Diet Coke itself might as well be a drug, that stuff is addictive if you like it 😭
Mat should do a game theory on the jumping Julian game.
Turns out he straight up steal a lot of other people's theories, not to say he doesn't make his own at times, but it's less impressive when you consider plagiarism
Seeing matpat go from finishing the timeline to going insane having to update it brings me great joy 😭
@I_hatenegros1go away
This reply section is a reminder of the failer of humanity
You have unlocked 3 bots
He’s joined William in purgatory
@@destroyerofeps2714*failure
The bit about Henry in FNaF World and who made Circus Baby really brought this whole thing together for me and blew my mind into a million pieces. I love how you and John solved two big pieces of the current FNaF lore
What's in the box
Which box
We’ll never know I guesss @@ishkanark6725
Thank you, Matpat for everything.
I'm going to be completely honest. I come to these partly for the soap opera that is Five Nights lore, but mostly for Mattpat's energy while he delivers it.
Same here.
Don't read my name
I do the same thing, but then I just find myself getting angry that the lore makes no sense
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Indeed
The fact both Mat and John connected TTO to Ruin literally days apart makes me think they are going to do a genuine collab theory one day
Ikrr
Depends what Mat can offer John after ripping of his theory and shoe-horning it into this video. I can't be the only one who realize how rushed that part about the connection with the novels was? Mat is a fraud.
Don't read my name
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@@treali? Cave system with glowy stuff is a specific setting. Its not a stretch that both came up with that
I love how a singular character gave new meaning to basically every part of the lore
Which character
@@vengeance6833the mimic
okay but like when he said that the tunnels were sister location i slapped my keg and my jaw dropped. this lore is fitting together to well
Ruin was such a blast to play, it really showed Steel Wool was correcting their mistakes and I really appreciate that! I'm also so happy for Matpat, he absolutely nailed the story in his last theory video! I'm also glad we're finally getting a new villain instead of Afton again haha
As willam afotn always says I always come back
2:48 that part made me tear up a little. and Mark just sitting there trying to find a way out without disabling her didn't make the part any easier
Infuriating that there's no secret ending to just save Roxy and leave.
It’s pretty amazing how quick they get these theories out with so much polish.
@I_hatenegros1 BROS NAME 💀💀💀
Not the bots 💀💀💀
I wouldn't say that. He didn't say anything in Polish
It's probably because they went corporate a while back
Can you imagine the orbital sander Matt and co use?
I love that the endings in ruin are called neutral, scooper, and Brazil.
The fact that MatPat’s recent video actually feels like it could possibly be canon to the actual lore, means that MatPat has now starting to fully take it step by step and not go all out at once. The only thing now left to piece together is to figure out what truly did happen to Glamrock Bonnie.
He had a theory that monty did it. The video is titled: Golden Freddy is in SB
Can we look for Foxy too? He's just gone and in sb, the kids cove is obviously inspired by him but it's shut down with "banned" written all over but we all seemed to breeze over that ?
The only reason he took it slow is because he stole johns theory
bonnie was obviously doing some sick bowling tricks smh
There’s a secret cut out of Glamrock Bonnie in Monty Golf where he frozen falling in place. Since security logs in SB say Bonnie was last seen in Monty Golf, and because there’s claw marks on him. I think it’s safe to say Bonnie went up to the catwalks above Monty golf, And Monty attacked him and pushed him off.
when i was playing through ruin i freaked out when i found the caves with the glowing mushrooms because ALL i could think about was the parallel between the game and the twisted ones because i recently finished reading the novels, seeing you bring it up made me so happy 😭
Honestly, Baby being around or relevant even now makes sense to me. Reason being, Baby mentioning that we are in a Springlock suit on Night 4 felt so off. We never see what the suit looks like. But it implies that the Funtime Animatronics still had unanswered questions surrounding them. It just felt like such an odd thing to leave open ended
Dont we see ourselves inside the speinglock suit in vr or smth?
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialbot
@@danyTheGamerKillerthat was Freddy if you’re talking about the end of the game
@@grizzlygamingzz8145 in fnaf help wanted we are in a sister location springlock suit(if I remember correctly.)
@@danyTheGamerKiller wait before I sound dumb what part of the game?
Thank you matpat for everything
With reference to the daycare attendant and the 'why is he here' moment, I can say with certainty that he is here exclusively to make me happy. That is all and case closed, he is doing amazing 😂
I KNOWW it's so true like the daycare attendant is one of my new FAV animatronics ever since security breach first came out and hearing MatPat say 'daycare attendant' in the video honestly made my heart skip a beat from excitement for the return of the character
ok
for fanservice AND HE HELLA SERVED like the king he is🔥🔥
The usage of the Vanny masks reminds me of a certain Freddy mask back in Fnaf 2. The way the animatronics are unable to recognize you with it on is way too similar, only without the augmented reality part.
Ong ur right
Watch matpat make 50 more episodes based on a dlc that lasts around 2 hours to beat
my content is better
Ye
@DJILMarioBrosOfficialok!
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94I will🤪🤪🤪
I feel bad for you becuase basically all of the replys are bots
I have a theory about The Mimic from the Ruin DLC. Hear me out, what if The Mimic is possess by the man himself William Afton.
He is still trapped by Cassidy. Plus, him and GlitchTrap wouldn't see each other as enemies.
That's what I think.
One note: the Vanny mask you use isn't the one Vanessa wore in SB, but it is the exact one used in Help Wanted alongside the Glitched Bonnie Plush to talk to Glitchtrap
Could be along the line of changes like Roxy's endo. But even then, Ruin had a bunch of wires in the mask, and Dreadbear's was a more flesh red interior.
Not to mention it's called a "security mask." Which might mean the security guards wear those as well. It might be possible that the Fazbear company was in on Glitchtrap's plans.
@@w1ndgeneral226could also just be that the security and maintenance staff wore some other AR gear, more appropriately themed, and Vanny just implemented those into her own mask, given Helpy is the AI assistant in the mask, plastered all over the pizzaplex maintenance stuff and is the mascot for the save stations, the original mask could've been Helpy masks, would make sense for the kids too, they see a bunch of helpys go around fixing stuff.
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Wow. First John, now Mat. We have been blessed with back to back Fnaf theory content and I am LIVING for it.
Wait, so you’re saying that all the FNAF games until pizzeria simulator are not real events in the timeline? :(
Yes and no, now we have an timeline inside a timeline, the smaller one existis inside the bigger one, but not the other way, like how fnaf isn’t affected by our reality, but the other way happens
Basically one layer of reality and two of fantasy
@@lulnara5128I’m confused
@@follower8815 Basically: Pizzeria simulator and all the games that come before are just a game in the fnaf universe. Its like gwent in the witcher 3 or a game of poker in RDR2.
@@follower8815the first 5 games exist in our world and in the fnaf world fazbear entertainment pulled some facts and fiction from the different pizzerias and made the games fnaf 6 happened in reality so the events from the game are also canon to the universe as well security breach and the mobile game along with the vr game are all apart of a “separate reality” from the first 6 games
@@RamenBowl2.0 ah I see. So the fnaf universe has come to a close with fnaf 6. And a new universe has started with the pizzaplex. How does afton exist in the pizzaplex universe and why did matpat refer to fnaf 3 if both of these things are before the new story?
I do have a question...
If Glamrock Freddy can't se Vanny at the beginning of Security Breach because of his "safe mode" and isn't capable of doing so until he gets Roxy's eyes, why is Gregory capable of seeing her from the start? Wouldn't it mean that Gregory is somehow connected with this AI?
I've started seeing Sun & Moon like this:
Sun is the excited one that is there to be nice, but tends to take it up a bit too far,
Moon is the slightly creepy one that keeps you from continuing to play, but is there to keep kids safe.
When we see Eclipse first, his actions and way of speaking find the best sides of both. He tries to put you in a safe place, but does it in a nice and calm way.
what's interesting about the endings is that despite them apparently having been made up by Gregory, he still somehow knew about the existence of the blob, which we know is cannon in the games as it can be seen in the DLC, albeit for a split second. this could suggest that perhaps burntrap did exist. perhaps when Gregory went back down to seal away the mimic, he came across burntrap and the blob
I think instead of none of them existing, I think the stars indicate the order of events for what happened.
It started off surface level, with Gregory trying to run away, and then fighting off Vanny by controlling the bots, the mall catching fire, Gregory meeting the blob and the springtrap again and finally, him freeing Vanessa and them all getting away.
It’s the only explanation for the blob existing and Gregory knowing about it but springtrap not being in the basement as well
@@comicbooknerdisme that makes sense!
@@comicbooknerdismeThat makes so much since, that was one of the 2 things bothering me about this theory!
Exactly, why the Pizza Plex would be in such condition if it didn't set on fire. Besides, when Cassy enters the underground area it asks "Why there is an oven here". Glitchtrap was there. So my theory is that Gregory fought Glitchtrap, confronted Vanny, Freddy was disassembled, Gregory solved Princess Quest and saved Vanny and the head of Freddy before the AI took control again, the three escaped and now are working together.
Do you think that maybe the dialogue hidden in the SB game files of Freddy stating, “I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me.” “Those were other models- Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that, right?” , might have some relation to the prototype from Ruin possibly being different from the Freddy we see in SB?
I think that was more likely he can't remember what he did while under Vanny's control
That's referring to the past iterations of Freddy, obviously.
@@ManicFiction
"obviously"
My brother in christ
Nothing is obvious anymore
True dat
Who's rewatching these theories now?
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is it just me, or is it oddly nostalgic to hear phone guy's voice lines as evidence again?
Reminded me of sister location cuz of all the computer panels and stuff
when was that? i dont remember hearing phone guy this episode
@@ASlickNamedPimpbackit was the phone guy from 3 not 1 and 2
@@jeffo7799found it, 18:00
Idk how he does this, but matpat really just connects all the wires and makes everything make sense, so smooth. And yes I know thats what theorists do but something about this is just so great. Really great work Matpat, you deserve some props for this one
Something I thought was interesting is that the walls you can walk through with the Vanny mask seem to be visually glitching, and I couldn't help but think about the illusion disks. You know, the ones that alter your perception of reality? The ones that made the blank animatronics with opening chest cavities look like Twisted animatronics? The Twisted animatronics that Freddy's body now bares a striking resemblance to...
13:00 what if Freddy remembers glamrock bonnie
Matt and John having very similar theories is so cool wow
Glad its confirmed that Gregory decided he was going to play an arcade game instead of turning the robots against Vanny in an attempt to stop everything.
He’s a gamer
Maybe Gregory realised the arcade games had some sort of virus that linked to vanny or hes just a true gamer
Honestly, given the books and the story GGY, it makes so MUCH more sense for Gregory to spend his night playing arcade games. It also gives him a motive to be there in the first place: Find the Arcades that he hasn't played yet.
Adhd child
MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
I have been saying this for like 2+ years. Im super glad Mat caught up because I was starting to fear he'd find out about Baby after HW2 was released
What is hw2?
@@bruh2596Help Wanted 2
I love how the editor put the princess quest ending up twice when showing all the endings
I want someone who's as committed to me as Matpat is to making fnaf content
real.
Don’t we all
honestly
Someone that hates you but is stuck repeatedly doing you to pay their bills?
@@LeonardGreenpaw i mean, this theory isn't even something the game theory team came up with. the first half (with the mimic's circus costumes and alternative branding) was discovered and fleshed out by ryetoast, and the second half (with the scooper and the silver eyes series/fnaf sl/help wanted 2 connection) was completely done by fuhnaff.
Now that Matt has covered the “less” controversial elements of ruin, I’m excited to see how he tackles the idea of everything being in VR, Cassie’s dad, the existence of burntrap, the costumed mimic, and the scooper.
I want to see him go analyze the section he accidentally speedran past.
I like to find it interesting that out of all the animatronics, aside from Freddy of course, Roxy is the only one with a seemingly apparent personality, Monty was just destructive, and chica seemed mindless, but Roxy was infatuated with herself and knew she was a person. Well that’s what it seems to me at least.
Roxie does seem to be more aware/conscious than the others, I'm not sure if thats influenced by the fact that she IS so self-absorbed, but that in of itself has more "sentient" qualities than just "blind rage" and "mindless eating"
i like to think each animatronic will be "human" around children (aside from extraneous circumstances like gregory blinding roxy) but are otherwise how they are in SB
The "Confident" Roxy was most likely the Glitchtrap Virus.
It is very clear that there are 2 personalities in many of the Animatronics at this point
Someone suggested that her programming was extremely conflicted, she has the goal of beating everyone but that wouldn’t be fun so she was also programmed to always lose.
Me:watching it
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Matt I have a theory for you. The new ending to security breach where you go down to burntrap and play the mini game showing the mimic is the true ending but burntrap is the mimic and Afton controls it (purple eyes). After Gregory sees the mimic he has to run and leave the controlled Freddy’s body behind but saving his head. (Why Freddy attacks us). The bunny entity is also Afton and with Roxy, she escaped the mimics control.
Mattpat please respond
Man, I hope this all wraps itself up nicely soon. It's all starting to finally make sense and I don't need another twist.
That`s what we`re alll hoping, I mean hey they confirmed the Mimic
Might as well
keep hoping, in fnaf 27 we will learn that Gregory is actually William's brother.
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@@TheBritishQueen Don't jinx it 😭
The one thing I’m most excited for with the set is the fact there are pockets on the leggings. You almost never see pockets on any women’s clothing! *Thank you!!*
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This’ll likely be buried, but…I learned this week that tigers in the wild can MIMIC prey to lure them in. I think this is why Tiger Rock is a form of the Mimic, intentional choice by design.
That's really cool, it makes it make more sense.
Bro the vanny mask looks so uncomfortable 1:49
I feel Freddy having a prototype message on his foot is more significant than a design change. I think if it was the princess quest ending that was canon, burntrap would still be in his recharge station, and the blob would still be asleep.
Truth there buddy ol Willy guy would be on like support like a dying grandpa and my blob thing would be asleep like a person who’s in a deep sleep
ngl I just feel like since old willy is probably still inside his recharge station and because of the collapse of the Pizza plex he's just stuck inside of it and the Blob is just well roaming but not actively trying to capture everyone inside the Pizza plex. Probably on the next security breach we will just see Cassie still alive if Gregory didn't betray her also see Gregory's PoV outside actively trying to get to Cassie (We can hear intercom noises and the "Do you need assistance staff bot" has a chance to use the REAL gregory's voice trying to warn Cassie game files the Mimic using Gregory's voice is called Grimic while Gregory's real voice is still Gregory idk and if someone look into the elevator ending we can see if Gregory actually betrayed Cassie using the files) and they're just stuck there trying to survive till 6am (since Cassie did start in the day and who knows how long she's been there) while blind Roxy, the one arm Mimic and probably the Blob and old willy will be there too.
I think it is to give more lore about Freddy. If he was a prototype from the beginning, it didn't make sense to show that in the base game
The blob appears at the start of the game
I agree about the prototype message, I feel like it's way too central to be a design change. It opens up an interesting direction for where Freddy is and his potential involvement with Gregory in the post-Ruin storyline (which might get explained in Help Wanted 2, who knows)
I have been frantically checking TH-cam waiting for a Game Theory video on Ruin:DLC. I wanted so bad to hear the joy in Mat’s voice when he realized he was right about the mimic. Picking up the lore from books and everything else to decide on the mimic being a possibility is awesome.
i love that matpat outed astralspiff as a speedrunner and said your welcome for this speedrun strat, and now when he does ruin challanges he calles that spot "matpat incident". it's beautiful
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Theory: the mimic is circus baby’s endoskeleton 😮😮😮😮😮😮
I think so too
Same
My jaw dropped when Matpat pointed out the similar security puzzle in the help wanted 2 trailer
I am now flabergasted
fr, i didnt even notice until he pointed it out
Matpat and his team are so talented , the fact they can look at tunnels with an ai animatronic and be like "oh yeah that reminds me of sister location"
I love how both John (Fuhnaff) and mat had the same exact same idea with the books and explained them in some different ways, I love it.
In my eyes, the ending where Gregory drives in a car with Freddy is the canon ending. 🥲
Something Matpat should note before associating Ennard with the mimic specifically is that the Blob is actually in ruin, as noted by HorrorScoped, but it's a really brief flash and the Blob doesn't do anything in game other than hide from the player when you get to a specific location. 🤔
You know what's weird?
Cassie's name is a lot like Cassidy.
Now, It's prolly a coincidence, but it's weird that the two protags of Security Breach and its DLC are suspiciously like the two spirits in Fredbear.
It is most likely a coincidence? Yes. Is it most likely untrue? Yes. Do they most likely have nothing to do with eachother? Most definitely. But still-
That’s what I thought
There's no such thing as coincidence in fnaf. We just haven't figured it out yet
i always thought cassie was like a mix of cassidy and charlie
It's not weird, it's what almost everyone was saying when the Ruin trailer released.
@@helenrose4588There are like 3 Jeremy-s that have nothing to do with each other
18:06 Yes! I had the exact same thought about the costumes leading back to fnaf 3! I remember back when Mat thought they were referring to the mediocre melodies, but this makes even more sense.