THIS transmission swap is about to TAKE OVER high HP builds

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  • @WillyPanama
    @WillyPanama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    American here. Theres a builder here on TH-cam called Nivlac57, which put a 4.2L Vortec inline 6 engine in a 5th gen Camaro, added a turbo, and is making 1000whp. He is looking into making an adapter plate to mate a 8HP70 to the 4.2 I6. It seems that MaxxECU will be the way to go...

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’ve seen a few people have put 8HP70’s behind 1000HP motors and they’re handling it fine.
      Didn’t end up including that in the vid cuz it can depend so much on a bunch of factors.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fgmodsyep. Plus the rebuild cost of 10k for a stock rebuild....

    • @Mp-jw1qg
      @Mp-jw1qg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      maxxecu, cantcu, or turbolamik (the best option)

    • @mastercricket7626
      @mastercricket7626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Calvin is a goat with the atlas 4200 , he doing a new gen Camero now and a I think 88 supra with the 4200 swap ... merow is the auto, and the supra is a top dog, imo cuz it's still got a manual trans and both going high power and high boost 💪🏽🤘🏽🤙🏽✌🏽

  • @zskytop8790
    @zskytop8790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I got a quote for an 8hp conversion in my f6 and I can tell you now it was way more than a built zf6

    • @jeremygolding109
      @jeremygolding109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What was the price if I may ask?

    • @zskytop8790
      @zskytop8790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @jeremygolding109 was roughly 19k

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@zskytop8790 Yeah man, even doing the work myself I get to around 15k, which in car world will end up at 20k after shit happens lol

    • @zskytop8790
      @zskytop8790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @sircefiro it's definitely not cheap, as cool as it is I worked it that youre better off going with a 4L80, th400 or well setup powerglide

    • @exploranator
      @exploranator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why not use a Lenco?

  • @kenmackay9276
    @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Yes they are a great conversion , I have the N57 8hp70 behind a Atomic 998 running a G45 1500 .
    I have the Turbo Lamik receiving speed rpm and the other connectionwith the Haltech Barra pro elite with the sequencial shifter , in 12 months the only damage I've heard of , is because people start their cars without the TCU being powered up . The 8hp must be connected and power up before starting them . I have the whole Catalog of Domiworks parts , the Swedes have been using the 8hp since they came out behind everything they could .❤ .
    In Queensland the Drifting scene is big on the 8hp70 swaps , behind jz's and RB's with a clutch pedal .😊❤8hp70

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the drift scene has been using them for a minute.
      My dream drift build now involves a ZF8 😂

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @fgmods with Paddle shifters ? Easy mod . Mine is for roll racing when it's completed . 8 speed , was the ones whom put me onto the 8hp , now I've ordered and received all the best parts to make mine Super Tuff . Only thing missing is the Cryo treatment . Good luck mate .

  • @timbrwolf1121
    @timbrwolf1121 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Russell Drake from Sound German Automotive is the progenitor of all 8hp swaps. He was the first to unlock the transmission. He sells controllers for ZF8 and the NAG1

  • @pepidav
    @pepidav 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've had my eye out for zf8 stuff for a bit now - Garage Whifbitz has some good content on a bunch of different cars. glad to see that it's on workshop's radars for the Falcon.

  • @turbowankel1264
    @turbowankel1264 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Already running this swap for over a year now. Yes it is awesome

  • @emperor002002
    @emperor002002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    8HP90 in the Hellcats and Demons over here in the USA. 👍🏿
    2JZ+8HP90 is my gold for my SC300. 😉

    • @ClassifiedRecon
      @ClassifiedRecon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the dodge bellhousing is a tight squeeze in the tunnel from what i hear

    • @emperor002002
      @emperor002002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ClassifiedRecon 🤔 thanks for the info. I'll have to take that into account.

    • @flashhorton2447
      @flashhorton2447 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ClassifiedRecon apparently the only difference is bolt pattern and tune. Size-wise they're all the same.

  • @4964fxc
    @4964fxc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Couple of points.
    You can’t compare a “$16,000” 6HP build to the installation of a used 8HP, one will be capable of running a 7 second pass the other might need rebuilding soon after you buy it… and building an 8HP to handle the same power will cost you $20k, Pure charge $6000 USD for a basic build through to $15,000 for a stage 3
    Compare this to a FULLY built 6R80 in the USA which is less and has run 7.26 @ 194mph as a 6 speed or 6.76 @ 208mph as a 3 speed with overdrive delete.
    Back here in Australia the 6HP26 has run 7 second passes in a full weight (almost 4000lb) FG sedan.
    A 6R80 input shaft, billet planetary and quality build will be less than $16,000 and will handle whatever people can throw at it.
    The 8HP is very cool but make sure you stick to comparing apples to apples

    • @lachlanbrown409
      @lachlanbrown409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The higher spec 8 speeds can handle 1000nm...My old fella has the low spec 8 speed in a 5 series. It changes gears like a DCT...Insane economy on the highway as well.
      In an F6 or Xr6t it would be a game changer. ZF 6 speed still decent though

    • @Low760
      @Low760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly, you can't rebuild a zf8 for under 10k as they will be rooted and need rebuild.

    • @lachlanbrown409
      @lachlanbrown409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Low760 depends how mich stress. If its over 1000nm then yeah...

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Be good to see how second hand 8hp70s hold up, good points here

  • @carpetsteamcleaningipswichqlda
    @carpetsteamcleaningipswichqlda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant, full of some fantastic information.

  • @hendo337
    @hendo337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    You realize that guys are running 7s and 8s in the 1/4 with Powerglides, TH400s and 4L80e when they have enough power, the right converter and gears? How fast are you expecting to run? At least when it comes to turbo LS stuff. A kid ran 7s in a New Edge Mustang with an unopened gen IV 4.8L, the 243 heads stayed on, he did and cam and a valve spring kit. He used a lightly modded 4L80e and a very serious converter which is likely much easier to find, buy, control and adapt if necessary than a rwd high Tq ZF8. If I was going to step outside the GM.boxes and use a Ford engine, I would use a 6R140 with a turbo 6.8L or 7.3L Godzilla from a box van. The 6R140 cam in Ford "modular" bolt pattern behind rhe 6.2L SOHC V8 from 2010 on and handles over 1,000ft/lbs from very low rpms from built 6.7L diesels, living behind a turbo gas engine should be a cake walk for one. Most of the ZF8s are the lower tq rated units from behind turbo I4s and V6s. I suppose things are just a lot different in Australia with parts avaliability, prices and willingness to gamble.

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@hendo337 mate that is correct on the stock Mechtronic , but once you solder in the chip supplied with the Turbo-lamik TCM , then the torque limit and HP levels are all adjustable , and one of America's big engine builders Blue Power is offering the 8hp to suit the LS , they showed it at this year's SEMA , attached to a LS

    • @spectres_garage
      @spectres_garage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean one thing a power glide doesn’t have over the ZF 8HP is usability. It’s not like I could go to the strip and then the mall afterwards. That’s the beauty of having many gears AND the strength to suit. Plus it’s highly tunable these days although maybe being in SoCal helps with getting parts but either way it’s so worth it!

    • @dgo9121
      @dgo9121 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ZF 8hp is always in the power band and not an on/off switch style of driving of the old power glide. 10R80 is the fastest shifting TQ converter trans on the market.

    • @kylestephenson3004
      @kylestephenson3004 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Talks cheap. Too cheap infact

    • @iBill_Tit
      @iBill_Tit 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dgo9121 you should check the G meter on a dragy run with a 7 sec th400 equipped car, you keep talking about fast shifts until you realise you cant even see a G dip in a shift on a th400 when it only has to shift twice.... this youtube video and the guy making loves to imply that all these 8hp70's can take 1000hp, they might be able to take 1000hp when you yank a ton of torque from them as you shift 4-5 times, that makes them slower, they also cant 60ft or 330ft like a fast th400 car, and guess what, a billet manual valvebody 4L80E is a th400 with lockup and overdrive. so now the 8hp cant argue about the th400 not being lockup/od. trust me when i say this, an 8hp70 behind a powerful engine with lamik or cantcu or maxxecu controlled is a 5000-9000 dollar investment, to pray that a 800 dollar junk yard 8hp70 actually does live....

  • @mastercricket7626
    @mastercricket7626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro , we have been doing zf swaps in the states for years . They are strong , hold good torque numbers , and they all have great gearing , but now that more people know of it , they going crazy in price 😅.. peace and love brotha, keep it rad, stay safe, and build on..l8r famz

  • @N4CR
    @N4CR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    8L and the 10 speed from GM/Ford with upgrades do pretty well too.
    Meanwhile a bone stock, 5k AUD T-56 magnum will do 950nm.... If you don't need the automagic, the manual is far cheaper and easier to build if you need more than that.
    I do love me an 8 speed v8 for daily duties though.

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah need 3 cars, a daily, an 8hp toy & a manual toy

    • @Nathan0A
      @Nathan0A 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Manual is also lighter! Zf8 has a bit of heft

  • @mickvonbornemann3824
    @mickvonbornemann3824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The old Albury-Wodonga Borg-Warner Single Rail 4 speed ( which was very different to the US BW SR 4 Speed) worked great in my old Valiant, oh & a hotted up P76 V8 I owned.

  • @TorqueupAu
    @TorqueupAu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lol @ the haltech reference. same deal with the gm 6l80e control. ive been hounding them for years... worked with Link & they got me something to test in under 2 months.

  • @BenDuncan-o4k
    @BenDuncan-o4k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8HP70 behind a big pump/turbo OM606 here, it's a game changer in terms of daily driveability and performance

  • @Julzilla
    @Julzilla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Bro, they are putting these ZF8HP's in Greatwalls too....maddddddddddddddddddd

    • @GRUSS225
      @GRUSS225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You would have to be mindful of the input shaft size and spline count. Like the Jeep ZF, they may be smaller.

  • @steveallen1340
    @steveallen1340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I thought the 6HP26 has a 600nm limit from the factory, hence why all Falcon / FPV turbos and supercharged V8’s are kept below 600nm, even the GT-F and the sprint models.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Ford licensed version called a 6R80 in the states is only supposed to be good for 800nm and guys were pushing 900Ft/Lbs and running 8s with a big Whipple on a Coyote in 2011.

  • @anish-79
    @anish-79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Camaro's that were imported to Australia between 2018-2020 had 8 Speed Auto Gear-Box and Challengers with 5.7 HEMI also have 8 Speed Auto Gear-Box. Camaro's were using GM 8 Speed which had some issues with metal shards getting into Torque Converter. ZF 8 speed if you have the Money& go for it. the question is has it been done on Barra Engines yet ? Successfully ?

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The irony is that it’s been done to a bunch of Barra’s in Europe, but only 2 Falcons in Aus so far.

    • @anish-79
      @anish-79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fgmods if somebody has the Money$ to put 8 Speed Auto in a XR6 Turbo / F6 and the Transmission place confident they can do it, then it may be done.

  • @rashadrali
    @rashadrali 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It would be cool if u could contact the awd fg falcon dude. In his vid (with the basic barra turbo plus/ stage 2, what ever u wanna call it) it did a 2.9sec 0-100! He said he was building it for more power but we havent got an update for years 😔.
    P.s Imagine an AWD 8HP falcon 👀

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’ve been thinking a lot about an AWD ZF8 falcon, the guy who built the AWD Falcon was definitly an inspiration.

    • @Mp-jw1qg
      @Mp-jw1qg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we make an awd 2jz oil pan that uses the g80/f90 front diff for the zf8hp swaps, if you get me the barra oil pan 3d scan and a scan of the barra in the car and where the front axle plane is i can draw you an awd oil pan for barra that would work with barra and the bmw 3.15 final drive in cad .(the native 8hp ratio that hauls the most ass) or i can make it fit the trackhawk 3.73 ratio front diff. i make a lot of zf8hp parts for swaps.

  • @SmartieFan
    @SmartieFan หลายเดือนก่อน

    8HP are plentiful and cheap in the UK, planning a swap with a OM605/606 for my Cherokee.

  • @AdmissionGaming
    @AdmissionGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't zf8 in the greatwall cannon's?

  • @Phil.Z_
    @Phil.Z_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did your grapevine source tell you anything about he possible timeline for the aussie based pixelated ECU manufacturer for native ZF8 support? great video btw, very informative.

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No timeline. Last I heard they were working with a well known existing TCU controller maker. So IF they get native support it’s probably going to be quite advanced.
      But it also seems like they’re hitting roadblocks and others are well ahead of them already.

  • @adammarshall4576
    @adammarshall4576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blueprint engines has a plug n play option to use a LS3 with a ZF8 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @joesander778
    @joesander778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are also standard in VW Amorok V6's, they come 550 nm standard👍

  • @S_36_A
    @S_36_A 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saw the thumbnail. Instantly knew what it was about... 8HP

  • @blrn54
    @blrn54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    8hp everything!

  • @isaacyap4903
    @isaacyap4903 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I 8hp70 swapped my bmw n55 for $3000 and that includes labor, shipping, ISN reset and tuning.

  • @Bondango
    @Bondango 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maxxecu.... Even the entry level ecu has full zf8hp control and uses the dodge demon firmware on all 8hp70 and 45 boxes

  • @trickford460
    @trickford460 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MaxxECU has 8HP45, 8HP70 and 8HP90 are currently Supported and Working OFFICIAL Beta

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting. Their website still says they might be coming in the future. Good to know they’ve already got it working and supported

  • @james10739
    @james10739 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it is more than 1 or 2 years out before they become very popular and that price tag man here i am thinking about a turbo ls swap with a junkyard 4l80e with a hd2 kit in it so like $500 all in or the trans

  • @g_force3857
    @g_force3857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When’s the Barra swapped Hilux back ?

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big things are happening with it right now.
      So hopefully another episode of the build will be out in a few weeks.

  • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
    @NOTSOSLIMJIM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep. Getting ready to swap my hp6 to a hp8.

  • @AdmissionGaming
    @AdmissionGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which car from bmw do you pull the gearbox from?

  • @terrypikaart4394
    @terrypikaart4394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Falcon looks like a front drive Malibu.

  • @Grooty79
    @Grooty79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @hellothere4342
    @hellothere4342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can bet your dollars on shift programming are being locked by manufacturers. I had ZF8 fitted to BMW M5, and the shifts,logic, and tuning were day and night different to my mum's RR fitted with the same transmission. I'd wager it would be very expensive too.

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which is a big advantage the controllers like HTG have by utilising the factory TCU, thousands of hours by engineers perfecting the ZF/BMW logic.

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hellothere4342 the Turbo Lamik does the same thing with the chip you solder to the mechtronic , and it's self learning to always give the best performance it can , you can change and program everything with the Turbo-lamik .

    • @hellothere4342
      @hellothere4342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kenmackay9276 I would love to have one fitted to my VE SSV. Is there more information on this? Surely LS crowd could benefit from better transmission.

    • @hellothere4342
      @hellothere4342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fgmods it would be interesting for sure. This programming side of thing is well beyond my capabilities. Just knowing first hand how good it is in BMW and that's where my standards would be set. I've got the 9g tronics in my C63s. Even though it's a newer gearbox it's nowhere close to ZF. Doesn't help that I've already had recall for valve complications repairs under warranty.

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hellothere4342 And it's not only BMW , Bentley Aston Martin , Range Rovers , Jaguars and Dodge . Also there is a big aftermarket for high performance internals .
      Sonnax, is a very big name with parts , most people know of them for their GM Powerglide turbo 350 turbo 400, 4l80 performance parts .
      Raybestos have the RGPZ-018 HEAVY DUTY CLUTCHES
      & Raybestos STMZ-019 STEEL CLUTCHES , THEY MUST BE USED TOGETHER .

  • @jacobmoses3712
    @jacobmoses3712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are already Land Cruisers, Skylines and even an RX3 with yhe ZF 8HP and TurboLamik

  • @blalien777
    @blalien777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Depending on the mileage on this transmission, it can run you between $800-2500+ used.

  • @bigcazza5260
    @bigcazza5260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rated 260nm seems wrong on 6 speed
    maybe pound feet?
    au made 354nm at the flywheel 25 years ago

  • @lutherjackson_
    @lutherjackson_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we find a GM version in the states

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For a LS , Blueprint has just started fitting the 8hp to LS motors and it's available through them 🎉

  • @leftardtroller
    @leftardtroller 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amg e55 gbox is a powa house 1000nm capable from factory

  • @turbogears900
    @turbogears900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to put 1 of these z8 into my toyota aristo jzs161

    • @simonhill6267
      @simonhill6267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same. their prices have skyrocketed though, and becoming unobtanium

  • @rocketsurgeon11
    @rocketsurgeon11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been saying this for years. Been waiting for years. Unfortunately, I want to adapt it to a defunct application that nobody really cares about.

  • @petehalasz7547
    @petehalasz7547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, this is been going on now for about 2 years.. as you mentioned the worst hurdle was the proprietary TCU that was in the zf.. i believe the Turbolamik is by far a better choice..we are about to install the ZF 8 into my sons Jag v-12, xjs.. and we have a Maxx ecu in the jag.. will be interesting..

  • @nathanway20690
    @nathanway20690 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive looked into it. And from what ive seen the 75 will be cooked by a 600kw barra and building it is uncertain and expensive.
    The built zf tho expensive bolts straight in . But at 700kws even the best ones are unreliable.
    So you end up back at th400

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There’s quite a lot of cars with that kind of power using 8HP70 boxes. Weight of the car and how you drive is obviously a big factor.
      My thinking (and what I’ve experienced) is that the ZF8 is so much faster given its newer superior technology, that there’s just no need to chase high HP (even though it can handle a LOT stock) It can make lower HP cars go way faster than something with 1000hp and a t400.

    • @blrn54
      @blrn54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      8hp are in 7 second cars. So they hold 1300hp in Australia or 1500hp in USA.

    • @atifhussein5610
      @atifhussein5610 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      best ones aren't unreliable, just too expensive that you do think twice before buying the best one, Monstatorque is running 7's with their full weight shop car they are warrantying it too so should be interesting. gotta pay to play though.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rvo has 1500hp zf6 speeds

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blrn54 haha nice

  • @chevyboyforlife4234
    @chevyboyforlife4234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fuck that just get a lenco transmission...they are strong af and they shift instantly

  • @markfullerton9890
    @markfullerton9890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you decide to do any of this with english translations, I will watch it. JK love from Canada

  • @Alfonso-mh1np
    @Alfonso-mh1np 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also powere the hellcats and demons etc

  • @myrx2
    @myrx2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ha and all my mates used to hang shit on anyone with a tcu gearbox or even a dgs gearbox. My car walks all over their cars even with almost 100kw less. They are great for daily driving but can handle a shit load of power and shift lightning fast.

  • @robertbruinsmaXXXX
    @robertbruinsmaXXXX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like you are twelve months behind the world, people are already moving to the Asian 8 speed and the 10 speeds version available.

    • @AdmissionGaming
      @AdmissionGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Asian 8 speed?

    • @supernice_auto
      @supernice_auto วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AdmissionGaming no one knows what that dude is talking about don't mind him

  • @RotaryJunkie
    @RotaryJunkie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The actual advantages of the ZF8 are pretty massive against a 4-speed, but the 6HP variants (6L/R80) are very well scienced out at this point as well, and they don't give up much vs the 8HP.
    I dunno. They make a good street car transmission, and potentially a good "fun car" trans, but it remains to be seen if they'll get adapted to hold to the abuse of drag applications like ye olde 4L80E. Probably not, because by the time you're at 4L80E or TH400 power levels in a drag application, you're abusing the torque converter on every shift and letting it make up for the relatively wide spread.

  • @snapped4433
    @snapped4433 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe if the price was cheaper, they would be viable because comparing a zf6 built to the cost of a zf8 thats bog stock and has a higer risk of failure it just aint really worth it. If they where mabe 3k buy in for the box it would be viable but with the cost for one installed at 19k from another comment that isnt viable. You could swap a zf6 and do a mild turbo build for the same cost a zf8 installed

  • @RebeccaKenworthy
    @RebeccaKenworthy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hear ya- BUT I suspect a well sorted Powerglide would be just as fast down the 1/4- although on the street rhere'd be no comparison. I've got a big HP RB30 powerwd R31 with a big dollar Trimatic behind it. It was the worst decision I ever made (besides fitting a Microtech 12C ECU 15 yrs ago 🤦🤣). I've had constant problems with breaking hard parts where there aren't any aftermarket options for upgrade. Yes it's a physically light box and it's relatively efficient and doesn't absorb a lot of power like a TH400 does- BUT it's come at the price of reliability. No doubt the car is faster (off the footbrake- can't trans brake it if I'm blowing it up launching off the foot brake) with this particular Trimatic compared to a TH400- but then again I could launch with more boost AND use a trans brake which would more than make up for whatever power you lose at the wheels with the TH400. But I'm talking about $7,000 - $8,000 built boxes. Hi Stalls level the playing field with these boxes with lots more gears. Yes, technically they keep you in the power band but when a torque converter is operating with slip it's actually a torque multiplier. That's lart of the rwadon Powerglides work so well it a drag application... I'd rather a TH400 and a Gear Vendors overdrive unit replacing the factory extension housing... It'd be much more reliable in extreme operation usage with big HP builds

  • @musclebone7875
    @musclebone7875 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The th400

  • @bn468
    @bn468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Na falcon has the 6hp21, less clutches, Smaller intermediate shaft

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      6HP21 was used in some later model MK2’s and FGX, but the NA falcons before that used a 6HP26, just with fewer clutches and smaller torque converter.

  • @TopDonBarrow
    @TopDonBarrow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was inevitable. Manufacturers were putting that shxt on everything like hot sauce lol. All the germans except Benz and almost all the muscle Americans have sone variant of 8HP

  • @robertfontaine3650
    @robertfontaine3650 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only it was a standard.

  • @letsputunuthasrimpon
    @letsputunuthasrimpon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or for a fraction of the cost you can go a 80 year old gm design with 3 speeds thats no slower.....

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  หลายเดือนก่อน

      They ARE slower, if you have to build a 2000HP engine to make cars with 3 and 4 speed boxes just as fast as cars with 500HP and newer 6, 8 and 10 speed boxes, than they are literally slower

  • @jhon-cg4rg
    @jhon-cg4rg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was expecting 10l90

  • @joshvalentine226
    @joshvalentine226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still sounds like it's cheaper to buy a bulletproof 4l80

    • @jsmcortina
      @jsmcortina 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WAAY cheaper from the sound of it yes.

  • @lachlanbrown409
    @lachlanbrown409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dream build is an alloy block Boss 5.4 or Barra turbo with a ZF 8 speed. ZF is lighter than the ZF 6 speed.
    I'd move the battery to the boot and reconfigure the rear end suspension to handle some wider rear tyres.
    Suspension wise just an adjustable front sway bar.
    So you'd have a lighter front end and the FG would be lighter on its feet.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't an alloy block 5.4 a coyote?

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were aluminum block 5.4 and 5.8L DOHC sold in GT500s, I wouldn't waste my money or time. A 6.8 or 7.3 Godzilla is significantly better and I would run a 6R140 modular bolt pattern with internals used to survive behind a full tilt 6.7L diesel.

    • @lachlanbrown409
      @lachlanbrown409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hendo337 5.4 iron block has plenty of potential. Gap Sauce on TH-cam has got his BA GT to run an 11.8 second Qtr mile.

  • @marcusheilbronn3055
    @marcusheilbronn3055 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The 8 speed is a great box with great tech, but saying they are faster then a 3 speed is a very naive statement. If they make a car faster then why does all the promod boys who run 5sec 200+mph run either 3 speed TH400's and 2 speed Th400's? A 3 or 2 speed with the right converter and right gear set will always be faster then 6 ,8 or 10 speeds.

    • @xxxroberttheking
      @xxxroberttheking 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The things you’re comparing aren’t really comparable, the TH400’s and glides in those cars are super expensive and built strictly for racing. Also, the engines in those cars have the torque to make up for the difference between ratios. If you compare the stock ZF8 to a TH400 built to take the same power and you put both in the same car the 8 would be quicker, faster, and more fuel efficient. The ZF may be more expensive but that’s kind of based on where you get both transmissions and ultimately value is up to the individual. I’m definitely interested in the 8HP for street/strip builds because highway speeds in a 2-3 speed is terrible.

    • @jamesgeorge4874
      @jamesgeorge4874 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People don't daily drive 6 sec drag cars, bud.....

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesgeorge4874 To be fair he's right, but yeah most are no where near that level, 8hp definitely better for most streeters

    • @trailerparkcryptoking5213
      @trailerparkcryptoking5213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stating “always” is absolutely incorrect! You don’t understand area under the torque curve in different rpm ranges!

    • @njclsx4252
      @njclsx4252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Naive,naive is you comparing lets say 750kw/1000nm vs a 5500hp+ promod ......
      Not all pro mods run a 2,3 speed a few pro mods running 5 &7 speed air shift liberty's

  • @KRShields
    @KRShields 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    48re mike drop

  • @PH020
    @PH020 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got a used 8hp70 for 150$

  • @akaitv6606
    @akaitv6606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TH400 will be around for another 20 years +

  • @RockingJOffroad
    @RockingJOffroad หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who has that kind of money to put into a toy? I know I don’t! I’ll stick with the old school trans!

  • @Low760
    @Low760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rich people will use the zf8, 10k rebuild to handle power...

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's about the same price for a top th400 rebuild / Upgrade plus including Sonnax race parts plus extra for Reid case

  • @Aph87
    @Aph87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10 speeds are taking over not 8

  • @speedup
    @speedup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the 8hp90 in a hellcat is way better

  • @riffraff7183
    @riffraff7183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    th-cam.com/video/gZZtt_cnvyE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SkGHaRfafJFCiDF2
    This rotary is running one.
    Seems like it will great.

  • @drzorderz470
    @drzorderz470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool vid dude, cheapest solution teach your falcon ecu to speak German problem solved

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ECU: Shift you swine, trans: nein lol

  • @r33skylineprojects59
    @r33skylineprojects59 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nah its slow to change gear i dont like it ..

    • @kenmackay9276
      @kenmackay9276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then it's not running a Turbo-lamik TCM , as you can tune Violent Shifts in them , throw in Raybestos Fibre GPZ-018 clutches and the Raybestos STMZ-019 Steel clutches for insane power .

  • @paulgeri1734
    @paulgeri1734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hahaha this guy obviously doesn't understand there's more to it, look up what happened when Brett LaSala or anyone else swap from a factory style trans like a 6R etc and go 'Glide or TH400 lol they all went quicker

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let’s check back in 12 to 24 months and see how confident you are in t400 superiority then.

    • @sircefiro
      @sircefiro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fgmods To be fair my thoughts are the 8hp is better for most all rounder cars but I wouldn't be surprised if the old drag transmissions are still at the top for drag, I'm keen af on an 8hp swap, always need a manual though which means another car & bigger garage, cars are expensive lol

  • @supernice_auto
    @supernice_auto วันที่ผ่านมา

    htg is a scam and is no longer a thing- a lot of burned customers

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  วันที่ผ่านมา

      They definitely ran into some issues that seem to have brought the project to a halt.
      However if you have one of their units and the knowledge to set up and use it they’re incredibly powerful.

    • @supernice_auto
      @supernice_auto วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fgmods yeah but based on their current situation alone i'd never recommend them let alone mention their name at this point, turbolamik and cantcu are household names in this space now

  • @Mp-jw1qg
    @Mp-jw1qg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    about to? brother youre literally 4 years late on this video lol. weve been sticking these gearboxes behind 1500+hp engines for a good while. people laughed, now they dm us for parts.

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m talking about using them in Falcons, there’s like 2 in all of Aus

  • @nicolashuffman4312
    @nicolashuffman4312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eww gross! Its an automatic!

  • @Corbots80
    @Corbots80 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is pretty late to the game

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's well ahead of all the Falcon owners and shops who are only just catching up now. There's only 2 ZF8 swapped Falcon's so far.
      I've been talking about this for years already. It's just now Falcon owners are finally taking it seriously... After the rest of the car world has already been doing it.

  • @bigcncguy
    @bigcncguy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or just buy a ZF from Monsta Torque for 9k that comes with a converter and it will be better.
    Zf8 is cool tho. If they can get it to be more of a bolt in package it will be good.

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I give it 6 months and big ZF6 builders like monsta torque will be providing ZF8 options. In fact I’ve already seen a couple of known names say on their FB etc that they’re working on ZF8 build options.

  • @pheonixfps9248
    @pheonixfps9248 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fixed heaps of these in vw's and jeeps. Unless it's the ZF8H90, forget it. Buckets of shit. You're on the money with the 6R80. Stangs do really well with stock boxes.

  • @G42J3T
    @G42J3T 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol the th400 ain't old news, there's a reason it's the king. I think you'd have a hard time telling all the 7, 8 and 9 second street cars that 8 speeds is better than 3😂

    • @fgmods
      @fgmods  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not even a hard argument to make. I did it in the video. Showed how the cost is similar for a much faster car by using 8speed

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fgmods Thing is at the power levels of a 7s or better car, you don't need all the gears, you already have more power/torque than you can put down in those few gears.

    • @jrwstl02
      @jrwstl02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@fgmods”Faster” where? A lot of 2 speed (power glide) cars in the USA that’d beg to disagree! Tons of T400’s disagreeing too! 😂 Hell….top fuel is one speed. Bottom line, with enough power, less shifting is actually faster than more shifting.

  • @jeffwilliam7500
    @jeffwilliam7500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New flash 6 cylinder sux.. barra is just a cross flow 😂 v8 are for men

  • @jeffwilliam7500
    @jeffwilliam7500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    T400 will hold 5,000hp no barra comes close 😂