351 Windsor In a Fox Body / The Differences When Swapping Out Your 302 Ford Mustang

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
  • SMASH LIKE, SUBSCRIBE AND BELL FOR NOTIFICATIONS OF NEW VIDEOS!
    Short informational video that gives you a brief overview on what it takes to put a 351 in a fox body. Replacing the 302. This is my 1990 Ford Mustang GT On3 Turbocharged Fox Body that i have done the swap in over the years.
    SUPPORT THE CHANNEL! JOIN THE NEOMUSTANGS MEMBERSHIP CLUB! / @neomustangs
    INSTAGRAM: neomustangs
    TWITTER: / neomustangs
    EMAIL: MYBUSINESS01@HOTMAIL.COM.
    #neomustangs #mustang #fordmustang #foxbody #projectcar #streetcar #on3turbo #on3performance #dragracing #horsepower #stickshift #turbocharged #foxbodymustang #turbo #stockbottomend
  • ยานยนต์และพาหนะ

ความคิดเห็น • 415

  • @jamesgeorge6551
    @jamesgeorge6551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The 260, 289 and 302 were all slight increases from the original "Windsor" block that debuted in 1962, a 221 cubic inch engine. In 1968, the deck was raised to accommodate the longer stroke of the 351, and the 351 also has larger main journals than the 302. The 302 was also a 28.8 oz imbalance engine until 1983 model year cars, when 50 imbalance because standard on 302 engines. The 351 Windsor also came standard with roller cams beginning 1994, to only last until 1997. 302 lived untill 2001 in the Explorer.

    • @justinatkinson5265
      @justinatkinson5265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang you mean to tell me the 351 is bigger than the 302?? Thanks man we would of never guessed. let me an neuro mustang do the schooling please and thank you... Don't forget to subscribe!!! Tell you mother , brother, and cousin too get the whole family to subscribe and like our foxbody taking y'all fools to school videos

  • @timbowalk
    @timbowalk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A trick I found when converting a fox body to a 351 order the oil pan pickup tube distributor and bracketed needed for a 89 crown Victoria police package it all drops right in a fox body

  • @davidsimmons177
    @davidsimmons177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You always have a video for everything I need! I decided to 351w swap my fox lol

  • @foofoojergins9741
    @foofoojergins9741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Good video man, i got a little coupe with a 351 out of an e350 van with aluminum heads etc.... and when i mash the gas she leaves outa thar pretty gooood

  • @zaywhittz154
    @zaywhittz154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good overall video. Definitely enough information for someone deciding on the swap.

  • @alejandrocoss1117
    @alejandrocoss1117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informative video. I don't know much about engines but you were able to explain and breakdown to be understandable. 👍🏾

  • @zREDDINGTONz
    @zREDDINGTONz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Subbed.. binge watching your videos. Building my first fox and you're filled with knowledge. Awesome work!

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks ! And wLevine!

    • @romero.4089
      @romero.4089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ^ same here have my first fox body and still new to it all lots of info

  • @adamcartwright6220
    @adamcartwright6220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re awesome!! First time viewer and I greatly appreciate your channel and the info, thank you!!

  • @Pushrodlife
    @Pushrodlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the info! Love the channel

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @c431inf
    @c431inf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is freaking awesome , can't wait to do more upgrades on mine , put on hold for last 20 years ,to many kids lol

  • @jerrymurphy6014
    @jerrymurphy6014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome channel subscribes about a year ago. Long time fox body owner I have three. Love all the content you do Keep up the great work brother

  • @robertturner1059
    @robertturner1059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also the timing cover will interchange between both engines. Motor mounts will also fit both. Thank you for the information you have provided, great channel.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya I focused the most on stuff that didn’t. There’s a lot of it

  • @Element0145
    @Element0145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info thank you , definitely helped clear up any doubts 👍

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @josephgonzalez744
    @josephgonzalez744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew about your channel and that you guys were in NEO, I’m actually heading to Ashtabula tomorrow to pick myself up a 351w roller engine for my fox! Hope to see y’all around sometime!

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck!! Where did you get it from? LOL

  • @billybro1999
    @billybro1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just found a really good deal on a complete running 351 locally for $300 and was gonna jump on it, that's how I came across this video. It's not a FE block but I'm gonna convert. I was wondering what's all involved as far as what I can use and this vid helped alot. I just got a set of new to me aluminum heads (302) to use and a set of longtubes. I know I can make the heads work I'm just hoping the headers are still useful. I have a completely empty engine bay right now because I was shaving, filling and adding scott rod panels.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! theres a lot to it. more than people think.

  • @eljorgitotres5155
    @eljorgitotres5155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your car is the reason why I'm converting to a 351 with a on3 turbo, keep putting up videos, if you have parts for sale let me know lol

  • @JasonMartinez-wv1gd
    @JasonMartinez-wv1gd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. Good stuff

  • @CourtneyEdmonds
    @CourtneyEdmonds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm doing the same thing in New Zealand with a 1991 Fairlane (Australian made) and having all the same issues as a 351w foxbody swap. Great info and keep all the great content flowing. :)

  • @justin91lx
    @justin91lx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video Man! Like to add Head bolts (351 1/2inch and 302 7/16s) are different. Plus lot of ford 302 heads will need to be drilled out to accept the bigger head bolts.

  • @marklohnes6313
    @marklohnes6313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice video! I have a few things to add:
    Oil pan, oil pumps and windage trays also won’t interchange. The 351w dizzie is not only longer but more importantly the oil pump drive shaft is physically larger, meaning the hex drive is larger, so that isn’t interchangeable either.
    While camshafts can interchange it is important to note that a cam for a 302 won’t run the same in a 351. You can run a larger, ie longer duration cam in a 351, all things being the same, than you can in a 302. This can be advantageous if torque down low is important to you.
    Main journal bearings are larger so the bottom end is different and that’s important to know as well. The block is 75 pounds heavier so there might be a need to change strut springs out for heavier ones if you swap to 351. IMHO the 351 is far better for the strength of the bottom end than for the 50 cubes greater displacement. More headroom for higher power, it also longevity if not built too stout or horsed to hard at the track.

    • @drtb69
      @drtb69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crown vic salvage

  • @badasspecv
    @badasspecv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the information, always interesting 🤔

  • @frogman7874
    @frogman7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    351W specific Headers are recommended.
    302 W heads can be used on 351W but the 302 head bolt opening will require drilling to 1/2 inch bolt.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right

    • @Spad68
      @Spad68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ??? Don't the 351 come with larger head bolt then the 302 . The are in the same location as the 302 . Why woukd you drill out the bolt side ? I'm confused.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Spad68 Your must be confused. He means the head bolt holes on 302 are 7/16th. The factory 351 head bolts are 1/2". He's saying you gotta drill out GT40 and stock 302 heads to fit the head bolts or studs FOR a 351 if you use them.

    • @Spad68
      @Spad68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Neomustangs OK. Lol
      After rereading his post . That's what I figured it was .
      Thank you sr.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yw !

  • @jpp9846
    @jpp9846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for making this, I was mulling over the idea of a 351 too. Seems a little more involved than I thought.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its pretty involved. It hought same thing when i first started.. then i was like ugh

    • @dk2190
      @dk2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nothing that money can’t fix :)

    • @Costanza2014
      @Costanza2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dk2190 or time, I am just finishing a LS swap with my son into his 88 Iroc, so ready to upgrade a foxbody now.

  • @806toxikautoz8
    @806toxikautoz8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some of the '95 351w came with a roller cam. I recently did a 351w swap on a 84 bronco ii and used a 351w out of a '95 f150. so to keep from having to purchase retro-fit roller lifters you can salvage one of those engine and just purchase a new cam.

  • @Miss__Victoria
    @Miss__Victoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also, also, for my upper radiator hose, I had hood clearence issues with the factory hose and I ran an AutoZone radiator hose part no. D71626. (Saved that for future cause God it was hard to find a hose that worked... Lol)

  • @ChapsUnlimited
    @ChapsUnlimited 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bro, as always you are right on time!! I just got a 351 and I’m looking at what I need to do. Thanks for for this and keep up the great work!!

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! Will do!

    • @Costanza2014
      @Costanza2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking same thing. I just bought a 86 Vert and it is going to be 351. Already found a buddy with a 351 willing to part with it. Already on a stand and complete top to bottom.

  • @jerrymaldonado9397
    @jerrymaldonado9397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @b.a.ward.
    @b.a.ward. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't scroll through comments to see if it was mentioned, but the oil pans are different as well.
    I'm running a 357W in my Fox. And I can attest to the tight fit of the headers. Not a lot of room.
    Additionally, even with a carburetor and convertible motor mounts, there is very little clearance under a stock hood with an air cleaner.

  • @terrycarter8929
    @terrycarter8929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crane Cams sold a conversion kit that came with the hold down spider and proper lifters and dogbones. The drivers side power steering and a/c brackets don't line up. I made a bracket to use them. Only issue is the battery tray now touches. Ford made a conversion bracket. I bought offset bushings for the rack and used convertible style engine mounts. I used the distributor from the lightning and put the right gear on it.

  • @americantrucker2452
    @americantrucker2452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome info 👌🔥🔥

  • @xonsightx
    @xonsightx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great info

  • @ahoneyman
    @ahoneyman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    83-89 Crown Vic police cars had an optional 351. It's got the front mount pan, pickup, and a stock 4bbl intake. They do pop up in a pick a part once in a while. If you see a dark blue box Crown vic with dog dish hubcaps take a peek. If you're on a no budget rat rod build you save a few bucks.

  • @lanebarker297
    @lanebarker297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GREAT INFO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @oscarvillarreal8951
    @oscarvillarreal8951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great knowledge!

  • @alvinmann7675
    @alvinmann7675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good info👍

  • @mustangmike4078
    @mustangmike4078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good video, naturally!😉

  • @sbf_fox2434
    @sbf_fox2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For my street 1985 GT. I got my 351w to fit under the stock hood by using vert mounts, Pro Comp dual plane (Weiand Stealth knock-off), Holley with no spacer, stock dual snorkel air cleaner and cutting the brace out from the center part of the hood. I also have a couple washers between the hinges and the hood.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya the carb 351 isn’t all that hard. This efi intake I use is about as bad as it comes lol

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Neomustangs I know, I have the Super Victor 351W on mine, with a spacer to clear the rails, and a low profile Eldebrock elbow. Perfect but I have a 2.5" cowl. I put my buddies 90mm big tall unit on there and cracked the paint on my hood. No biggie, hood is cracked elsewhere, stupid old fiberglass.
      You know, they used to make an aluminum cowl hood for these cars, should have picked one up back in the day.

    • @osoblizz7937
      @osoblizz7937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Neomustangs I'm glad im not the only one. I have 351W in a 89 GT. It looks like it was just thrown in there so I gotta go over there work. How much more power does the 351 have over the 302?

    • @myeighty-nine7813
      @myeighty-nine7813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@osoblizz7937 Stock they have about the same, 351W makes more torque. But Heads Cam Intake makes a bid difference and makes more that an HCI 5.0

  • @sibirty
    @sibirty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Off the top of my head, in addition to what you mentioned, the heads from a 302 wont work unless you machine out the head bolt holes to accommodate the larger bolts the 351 requires. The crank is larger in the 351 also and wont swap over.

  • @alexgarza2759
    @alexgarza2759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 351 in my blue coupe. I had to get a 4” cowl. I love your cars brother

  • @justintx75
    @justintx75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video with good info, please make more informational videos

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More to come!

    • @justintx75
      @justintx75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neomustangs good deal as i am about to start a Windsor swap soon

  • @joey4872
    @joey4872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative.

  • @dalejustice9207
    @dalejustice9207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy!! I kn it's been a minute since you did this video, but what size was the drill bit n threader size did you use for the 351 Dog bone you drilled n tapped? I'm getting ready to build my 10th Mustang. I thout I was out of the pony's for yr's n the more I seen, the more I wanted another n I went n got a 89 coupe turtle back. Had some goodies on it but I am wanting to do a 351 stroker this time n I am goin with a novi 2000 with a Css blow thru carb, the 347 I built was very strong for a NA car on a stock block. Thanks for all the video's buddy! I will have to play catch up on all the one's you have done.

  • @rondye9398
    @rondye9398 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got it! But MY choices for the 90 gt convertible ( 150K leaky rear main) are 5.0, 351W, and '70 351C 4V. Hmmm.

  • @jodeycampbell240
    @jodeycampbell240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude..im so glad I came across your channel and so far the content has been really helpful and actually I have a 86 double eye fox that I'm building a 30 over 351c from a 70's block and wondering about the fitment of it as in will I run into alot of problems. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s covered pretty well in video and in comments. Lots chimed in to help complete the video. And thanks ! For sub!

    • @jamesdelavan9573
      @jamesdelavan9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but it's called a 4 eyed mustang not double eye.

    • @jodeycampbell240
      @jodeycampbell240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesdelavan9573 thanks...I know that in Alabama and we tend to call them both "4-eyed " and "Double eye'd" but it's 1 in the same IMO. I've owned 8 over the years..but Thanks for the info 👍🏽

  • @salvinni3434
    @salvinni3434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just did a sbf Boss 427 crate swap. My main concern was keeping stock hood.
    Well, that did not happen. Had to go Cobra r hood and that only clears throttle body by 1/4 inch. (
    Has to be a way to get it down to at least a 2 inch cowl. Went trickflow R intake.
    Thinking maybe I should of went carb style efi.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya clearance isssues are the devil

  • @automotiveaddiction428
    @automotiveaddiction428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm old school.i like my carburated motors..my car in 1985 mustang...and I just bought myself a 1977 ford f 150 with the 351 Windsor...I'm hoping I can get some headers to fit the truck.....it hasn't arrived at my house yet...

  • @honestpainter
    @honestpainter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought my Drop top summer time . Red . White . 342. Holbrook. It’s super powerful for street . Smokes the tires at 65 roll . No need for 351. In fox .

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you make 600 there is

  • @leeblackharry
    @leeblackharry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm finishing up a 351W build in my 88 fox. I have an Edelbrock super victor intake with an Edelbrock intake elbow (overall height is 7.75") EFI application. Would you happen to know what size I would need for a cowl hood? I'm using stock k member at the moment. I did some measuring and it look like I would need a 4" cowl. I want to double check because I don't want to get anything that is too big if I can avoid it.

  • @kgray59
    @kgray59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stock sn95 front drive and timing cover waterpump bolt up without the need of the ford racing adapter brackets for the fox but the ac lines and bulkhead connector at the compressor are different for the sn
    Energy suspension mounts I believe are the aftermarket equivalent to the shorter oem convertible engine mounts.
    Various efi intakes naturally have different heights but with gt40 and cobras I believe being the shortest with using a stock hood and possibly kmember spacers

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes your correct

    • @RJ-zf7fw
      @RJ-zf7fw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you use sn95 front accessory brackets you need to use a sn95 timing cover as well because they are a different width than the foxbody. If you use the foxbody timing cover and sn95 brackets your waterpump will not be aligned with the rest of the accessories.

  • @jasonredepenning
    @jasonredepenning 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dam should get a Cleveland. I had a Cleveland and I would tap the gas and 100 instantly

  • @nealpurdy1202
    @nealpurdy1202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the short and to the point video. What is your thought on drop solid motor mounts and k member spacers?

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like it. I couldnt use it on one of my cars.. rack was in teh way!?

    • @jamesdelavan9573
      @jamesdelavan9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used the solid drop motor mounts and a solid transmission mount. Works good. I need to lower my front sway bar too. The pan is REAL CLOSE, without the drop mounts it probably would be better. I was trying to fit it all under the stock hood. However the Victor Jr intake, phenolic spacer, and Holley 750 still didn't. I take the hood off when it has an air filter on it. My plan is a Spectre carb hat, build a 4" fenderwell cold air intake, and cut the hood to clear the carb hat.

  • @frogman7874
    @frogman7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Original accessory brackets can be used but the steel plate which hold the a/c compressor will need to be replaced by a 351w specific which is available from ford racing.

    • @Miss__Victoria
      @Miss__Victoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never run that plate, 302 or 351. It's over kill and in the way when adjusting timing.

    • @frogman7874
      @frogman7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Expo
      True . But for the people who want the a/c they will be happy to know their is a bracket for them. Hard core guys no need for this bracket.

    • @Miss__Victoria
      @Miss__Victoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@frogman7874 I have A/C????? The A/C Pump bolts to the power steering bracket via for bolts, the plate is just a brace and is overkill, un-needed weight, and in the way....

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Miss__Victoria Dang you could have saved me 45 bucks a while back lol....

    • @Miss__Victoria
      @Miss__Victoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertelmo7736 lol

  • @hallboy1382
    @hallboy1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think you're doing a great job with the channel man !!! We'd probably be best buddies if we were in the same state lol cheers man🍻🍻🍻🍻

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would be cool

    • @justinatkinson5265
      @justinatkinson5265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, Y'all look like y'all would make a good couple...

    • @hallboy1382
      @hallboy1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol always a dick face in the bunch 🤣!!

    • @taniarjenis2174
      @taniarjenis2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to meet you i live in ohio hope to run in to you soon ive been working on a 92 fox body my self

    • @EASTCOASTIMPERIAL
      @EASTCOASTIMPERIAL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t nobody wanna be friends with someone named Hitman. 👻

  • @dk2190
    @dk2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m in the middle of a 427 build. One thing to know is going to a 408W using stock 351W block not an issue but a 427 means an even longer stroke so if you want a 427 generally better to go to Dart or Boss block.
    If you have existing turbo or supercharger From your 302 based motor you’ll need different brackets to mount to the 351W blocks it’s not direct swap.
    Depending on your rotating assembly the 351W could be either 28oz -or- 0 oz balancer
    Oil pick up and oil pump (and shaft) are different than 302 as well so Budget for new oiling system.
    Most Budget way to do swap is get a running motor and throw a turbo or SC on it. Otherwise plan on spending some coin

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx for the info!!!!

  • @LITTLE1994
    @LITTLE1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know the 5.8L is larger and more powerful, but I didn't there were that many differences internally. I might swap that with the 302 (non-HO, because the Mustang had the better HO version) out of my 1989 LTD Crown Victoria LX to bypass the so-called 500hp limit, plus the police counterparts did have that, but I don't know if the 351 is EFI or not.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya 351 is the big brother of the 302 sbf for sure. However never really came with fancy forged parts really or cams

  • @williamlund5532
    @williamlund5532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude,can't believe this was that long ago.i just acquired a time capsule 91 lx with actual leather interior, 39k documented miles..problem is,it's the 4cyl..8 plug mill auto with the weeeeek rr.

  • @theyluvprin
    @theyluvprin 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What bout t5? I have a 95 gt that I’m currently doing a 351 swap on I have about everything I need but haven’t getting the crank pulley/ damper and flywheels yet due to being unsure on that to get exactly

  • @shontaward836
    @shontaward836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could I put a carburetor intake on my E350 it came out of vein a cub wagon 1995

  • @turboman351w3
    @turboman351w3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    late 1993 to 1997 f-150 to f-250 and vans and comerical flete all had f4t3 roller 351w engine and there are alot in junkyards, so there are plenty of F4TE 351w roller engines avilable ,thats where i got mine 827hp 760tq turbo motor.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THx for info.

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just make sure you have the block checked at the cam bearings...notorious for cracking from the factory!
      www.corral.net/threads/must-read-psa-for-windsor-roller-block-guys.1352369/

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s your combo turbo man? What kind of car is it?

  • @adamrushka8096
    @adamrushka8096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at doing this swap with a 95 351 out of a lightning. What balancer did you use and do the stock 5 liter alt and power steering brackets work ?

  • @Miss__Victoria
    @Miss__Victoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh and for a distributor, I used a distributor for a 1989 f150 351w(just make sure to change the distributor gear for a hardened gear)

  • @lochnessfox3441
    @lochnessfox3441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No problem Dan. Wish there was a way to just chat w you

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s all good. Hit me up on Facebook or messenger

  • @dwestinghouse
    @dwestinghouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought I saw an order video talking about doing a stroker in the 351w after you bent a rod? Was that the plan or future content?

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its one of the cars yes. THeres actually 3 cars i do here on tube channel. Soon to be 4 different ones.

  • @leojones7266
    @leojones7266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put a 351w with a c-6 transmission from a Lincoln Versailles in my foxbody.Tons of power&torque.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C6 is heavy but strong.

    • @leojones7266
      @leojones7266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neomustangs Direct fit and indeed strong took lots of abuse from me

  • @MOJOATLBIGSHOTS
    @MOJOATLBIGSHOTS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hunting for my 351w now.. Goin in a 89 lx hatch

  • @Nick17354
    @Nick17354 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a question for you, you briefly touched on roller cams. I'm a bit confused, I bought a 1995 351W roller engine on eBay (F4TE casting), but haven't started tearing into it yet. You said you have to drill the two holes for the dog bone bracket; but if the engine is a factory roller engine, shouldn't that be done from the factory? If not, how are the roller lifters held in place from the factory on these?
    Thanks! Your videos have been immensely helpful with planning my project, absolutely subscribed to your channel!

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      F4te is already set up for roller yes

    • @Nick17354
      @Nick17354 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Neomustangs Awesome, that's great to hear. Thanks for the response brother!

  • @drtb69
    @drtb69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kaufmann Engineering So Cal has affordable kits for 351w 351c 429 460.. tons of room

  • @dannyrivas5125
    @dannyrivas5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saleen mustang had 351w in the fox body back in the days with a supercharger on it 351 w are tall Deck 289 blocks

  • @blindabinda1234
    @blindabinda1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the bell housing bolt pattern and everything to do with the clutch alignment the same?

  • @tyrikmoore2903
    @tyrikmoore2903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use a 351w fuel rail let’s say from a lightning or any F150 fuel rail for my foxbody swap?

  • @awee5816
    @awee5816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can a 351w fit a stock Foxbody🐎 K-member? Or does it fit different depending the year of the engine? I heard certain engines have a problem with oil pan.

  • @GearHead704
    @GearHead704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The stock hood is probably the biggest issue for me as I really like the stock hood look. Thanks for making this vid.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yw man. I actually started watching yoru channel lately! That coupe SSP build very interested!

    • @GearHead704
      @GearHead704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Neomustangs Oh thanks a lot man for checking it out. I'm still learning a lot of stuff but love these FoxBodys. My channel is a bit more corny/vlog style at times but I'm having fun.

    • @GearHead704
      @GearHead704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinatkinson5265 LOL, yup that's pretty much my personality 😁

    • @GearHead704
      @GearHead704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinatkinson5265 LOL no problem man. Have a great night!

  • @KYLE_FROM_THE_FUTURE
    @KYLE_FROM_THE_FUTURE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, great vid. Definitely helped. Do you have experience converting a stock 302 to a BOSS 302? I swapped a stock 302 into my 65’ mustang coupe. Wanting to put a BOSS 302 block in. Know anyone who’s done this conversion?

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boss 302 is usually an aftermarket thing now. Unless you have an old OLD boss one.

    • @KYLE_FROM_THE_FUTURE
      @KYLE_FROM_THE_FUTURE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neomustangs Grabbed a new BOSS 302 block, SCAT 347 striker kit, stage 2 cam, AFR 195cc heads/58cc combustion chamber, 90mm Trick Flow intake, and a ton other stuff. Assembling the bottom end next week... will lyk how it goes. 🤙🏽

  • @BlindFoxXx515
    @BlindFoxXx515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Advice on starters? Thats the last piece I need to figure out. I have a 351w with a 157 tooth flywheel and a T5 (for now ha) and can't seem to figure out what starter ill need..

    • @theyluvprin
      @theyluvprin 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What fly wheel?

  • @frogman7874
    @frogman7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good tip to lower your 351W a bit is k-member spacers. Different manufacturers sell different thicknesses of spacers. Team Z maximum Motorsport’s etc.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good tip!

    • @luispuentes9599
      @luispuentes9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maximum motorsports also offer k member spacers !

    • @frogman7874
      @frogman7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      luis puentes
      Yes they do part number MMKM-20 $69.99

  • @justintaylor2919
    @justintaylor2919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok so I have a question I've got a 91 s10 with a 302 out of a 91 f150 I've put gt40 pro heads on it long tube headers tsp ready to run distributor flame thrower coil 1100 cfm demon carb tsp high rise intake. I'm still running the stock internals and cam the stock auto trans out of the 91 f150 could u tell me if there is any thing I need to change building a grudge drag truck any info will be grateful

    • @justinatkinson5265
      @justinatkinson5265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong channel bud, we're talking about building and swapping motors in foxbody aka ford's not chevrolet trucks aka junk

  • @robertelmo7736
    @robertelmo7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Going to need a new transmission too. All that torque is going to break it lol!
    I just got my swap kinda done for now...stock 302 with ball drive Paxton to 393 Lightning roller stroker...never looking back as the 351 block is so much stronger. You really don't have a choice with the 302 unless you step up to Dart/Boss if you want to go north of 550. I know, I know people have had them live but I have seen stock 351W shortblocks make 1000 hp. Not pushing mine north of 650-700 but just saying...

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i agree completely.

  • @johnmilner6505
    @johnmilner6505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've owned 3 mustangs all foxes and the first thing I do is yank the 302 and in goes a early 70s blocked 351w

  • @edwardmcmillenjr8443
    @edwardmcmillenjr8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats the best factory cast iron head for a 351w.i want to install a carburated 351w into a 84 notchback lx.but not spend alot money on aftermarket heads.i can afford a intake and carb and a cam upgrade and I know headers will cost me some bucks but if I can get 350 hp with factory heads and a hyd cam I would be happy.is there a specific casting number I should be looking for.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GT40 less you talking about world products ?

  • @tylerwill2605
    @tylerwill2605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 351w 2 barrel engine im going to rebuild and stroke it as well maybe a turbo maybe 2. I'm looking for a 88 to 89 gt hatch auto roller so I can build my ultimate sleeper for a roller I'm only gonna pay 500 for roller because 10plus years ago my dad bought a running and driving 88 gt auto hatch for 100 but I know times change but my price is firm so lmk what yall find no manual I prefer to stay on gas while others shift doesn't mean I cant drive one just dont want one

  • @turboman351w3
    @turboman351w3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    dyno dyno dyno neo . i want to see that that new motor light off, wewwwwwweeeeeeeeeee.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have a suprise coming!

    • @dk2190
      @dk2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to know what heads and CR slownate is using on his 427. That notch is Bad A

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dk2190 Ill do a video

  • @sammyvices2547
    @sammyvices2547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going from a 255CI 1980 California carb car and going to a fuel injected 351W with a trick flow bread box plenum what is my cheapeast route to go with a throttle body and throttle cable to make work? Should I just grab a cable and throttle body off of a stock 302 efi Fox? Thanks for any help or advice in advance

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sounds about right.

    • @sammyvices2547
      @sammyvices2547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neomustangs thank you #Chamoisglofox

  • @erikturner5073
    @erikturner5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even in a carb 302 setup if your going for performance, using a phonlic spacer, performer RPM type intake and a diecent sized air cleaner you will still need a small cowl hood. Most people out there slap on Victor Jr intakes which make the fitment issue worse. Main reason cowl hoods were popular back in the day were that EFI to carb swaps were very popular and for a performance/race oriented carb induction, the stock hood wouldn't due. That being the case for a 302, a taller 351 with a diecent street/strip carb build fitting under the stock hood is very unlikely.

  • @reyrodgers34
    @reyrodgers34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been there done that 377 cu stroker in 1993 Cobra 15 years 😁

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @reyrodgers34
      @reyrodgers34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Neomustangs thanks bud. 😁

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rock on bro. Send it!!

  • @sammyvices2547
    @sammyvices2547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about fitment issues with k members? I am going to try and use a Griggs racing but is there k members that fit better or are a complete headache compared to others? Or should I just stick to stock k member

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Give it a shot. Never heard of it

  • @aletorres8039
    @aletorres8039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did a 347 with 351w heads and you can see the difference in heads

  • @paulmbylbie6065
    @paulmbylbie6065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can run yr 302 camshaft in a 351 but ya have to run yr 302 firing order I've done it in non ecm apps is that how you use same ecm 302-351 in yours neo or do you just reroute yr injection harness ??I didn't see this in any other comments ?thx neo ✌️

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure i mentioned it.

  • @jasonredepenning
    @jasonredepenning 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a nice Nissan

  • @FootageFactory
    @FootageFactory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you trust the 351w block more than a 302 when it comes to splitting in high hp?

  • @steaknive
    @steaknive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    79-85 mustang 302s were 28oz balance they changed to 50oz balance 302s in 86’.

  • @firsttimeautomotiveinc.3002
    @firsttimeautomotiveinc.3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is that thompson raceway?

  • @rle1020
    @rle1020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If your fox was 302 instead of 351 what would be the power difference between the 2. Thanks

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its definately a difference but more strength than anything.

  • @95Sn95
    @95Sn95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was curious... Yeah nope... I'd say a stroker crank is the cheaper easier way to add 45ci... This is the kinda stuff that swayed me to GM 5.0 to 5.7 or even 6.6 is direct bolt zero changes not this mess of mods. Thanks for the heads up lol.

  • @bigboytv6089
    @bigboytv6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So you drove the tubro and supercharger what you like better and what gave you more power just adding it .

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Turbo

    • @jamesdelavan9573
      @jamesdelavan9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turbo for sure and it doesn't make boost all the time like a Supercharger. Easier on the crank. Out of the hole a Supercharger will make power sooner, but once the Turbo builds boost you will fly by the Supercharged car.

  • @mikeaustino4505
    @mikeaustino4505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see you run the on3 alternator bracket I have the same and having a problem with belt squeaking any tips?

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From time to time yes. I just rack it up as whatever ya knwo.

    • @justinatkinson5265
      @justinatkinson5265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Change tensioner and new belt

  • @nathancurtis2112
    @nathancurtis2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also if you use stock accessory brackets, you have to relocate the battery. The power steering pump lands where the battery tray sits.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used the stock ones on my black car.. didnt have to move battery. I did use the relocation kit for PS in place of AC tho.

    • @terrycarter8929
      @terrycarter8929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't have to relocate it but had to do some trimming.

    • @nathancurtis2112
      @nathancurtis2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, if you're not running PS then it's not a problem, and I might could have trimmed it,but I didn't feel comfortable with trimming it and it being that close to the battery. But whatever works for who's ever car it is! That's what makes this game fun, building it your way.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terrycarter8929 yes

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathancurtis2112 I agree. The PS pump i used i had to modify the ford racing relocation pump bracket set (replaces AC spot) to make 351 work but it wasnt a big deal.

  • @alec4453
    @alec4453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are you running for your computer? I've read the a9l will work but will cause the 351 to run super lean. I pulled my 351 out of a 89 f250, I pulled the computer and harness from that truck. Would that work ? Or would I be better off buying a new computer?

  • @porboysdream
    @porboysdream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What year block did you go with ? Im building a F4TE right now to a 408. What stroker kit did you go with? Thanks!

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a 93 block. I messed up didnt do the roller block.

  • @trailerpark187
    @trailerpark187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put a 460 in my fox. I used a Nascar lower air cleaner. It dropped the air cleaner all the way around the carburetor. Under a 3.5" cowl. Car was quick. But dosent matter its not a 351.

    • @Neomustangs
      @Neomustangs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow 460?

    • @trailerpark187
      @trailerpark187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neomustangs yes it was a motorsports svo 460 from the Ford racing catalog. 550hp version.

  • @teofiloberumen3066
    @teofiloberumen3066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice informático thanks