@@trainman665 No... the order could change completely. Let's assume that the Porsche has the worst practicality (reasonable assumption I feel): Imagine if they had carried out the tests in this order: 1. Practicality 2. EV range 3. Race Then the final positions would have been: 4th - Porsche 3rd - Audi (less range than the BMW/Volvo) 2nd - Volvo (or 1st) 1st - BMW (or 2nd)
Had the Volvo. Horrid with rubbish engine and loads of road noise. Got rid and got the Q7. Loved it. So much better. Quality, ride performance and quiet.
As a diehard Audi fan, when it comes to SUV’s I’d take a Volvo over any of the Germans all day and I did when I got my XC40, I didn’t even consider a German brand.
@@dhvanantrivedi the main reason for me is I have a S4 as my fun car and the Q5 is the same exact thing in the inside, Q3s are outdated and cheaply looking. And with the Germans it feels more like the SUVs are just to fill gaps in the market for people that don’t want cars, while Volvo has had pretty much only 2 cars, 2 wagons, and their SUVs for the longest times.
I agree with the verdict: large family SUVs are about the practicality and the comfort. If you prepare for a long journey of 2000 miles - you don't care about the acceleration and etc. What you need - enough space, good mpg and the comfort of sitting and driving. I agree, that Volvo XC90 is the number 1 of all the tested cars.
Good review but the BMW was thrown out on a slightly irrelevant basis. Technically it has the best range and would have likely won on speed and handling. It was right to exclude the Porsche on range. I think the exclusion of the BMW for that particular reason was probably the wrong call given that this was an EV death race.
Well done JP. At the very end of this video, you confirmed to me and what others think that these tests, done like this, in changeable running orders, are 100% useless. You said that the best SUV is a big one so the Volvo was the best overall. But the smaller Audi won thus proving that the way you're testing vehicles is definitely _NOT_ the best way.
What a rubbish test. The BMW & Porsche were eliminated by tests they don't want to be the best at. And then the 2 more practicle vehicles need to do the slalom test? Really: WTF
Being an owner of both an 08 X5 and a 2012 Q7. I prefer the x5, as its much more user friendly as a driver (cup holders in right spot and sound track changing on wheel) compared to Q7, and the x5 infotainment system is much more informative and easier to navigate for everyday user and for maintenance/issue details.
the crazy prices on these hybrid suv £70000!! and all you are getting is 30 to 40 miles on electric power which has taken 6 hours to charge up a complete waste of time
I got the XC90 T8 and have had it for 4 years now. You get a 7 seater that looks amazing and can do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds and has a tax (or BIC) rate of basically nothing. Anybody who is buying these cars to save the planet.. well I agree with you. :) On a serious note though, they are very nice cars and if you want to burn off a boy racer at the lights they are so fun. They cost more to the environment to create than they'll ever save though.
So the Volvo would have won, but because you can turn off the traction control un the audi, it was a little bit quicker. but the test should have been fairer and the audi should have had its traction control on. Volvo stick to their guns and give you fun, but safe driving, audi couldn't give a shit if you crash or not, they just want the money...
The Mercedes GLE 350 de hybrid would beat them all hands down, I know because I’ve gone one….50 mile real world electric range and 50mpg….Shame they didn’t test it but they are hard to get hold of atm….
Till you actually try it AND compare the price. I've just come out of a GLE350d into a Volvo XC90B6 Ultimate- £20k price difference and the Volvo is a far nicer place to be in. My only criticism of Volvo is the narrow engine choice as I'm used to big cylinder diesels. But the B6 hybrid lacks for nothing in performance - it is really surprising how refined and powerful this engine is.
It is so sad when two car experts decide to insult their own professionalism and expertise of decades by doing poor, invalid comparisons like this one.
Wish you would stop breaking these not-very-long videos up into multiple parts. Knocking out cars along the way without letting every car complete the full test is also dumb.
A Porsche guy will get a Porsche, A Bimmer guy will bet a BMW, Soccer moms will get Audi and retired people will Volvo. Nobody actually cares if they can fit an extra bag in the boot.
Volvo was becoming GARBAGES when they switched to FWD and transverally mounted engines. NOBODY which owns even a spoon of brain will ever buy an big SUV which had FWD bias or had transversally mounted engine.
Death of petrol cars for him feeling smug 😡 weve destroyed all our industry to feel smug and everyone bout to lose thier freedom to own a car but its okay jason and people like him are smug 👍🏼
You just don’t get it do you? Imagine that instead of buying all the oil abroad from countries holding an oligopoly, the society would relay on local energy supply. This is economically smart, improves energy safety and most importantly creates jobs within the country. You can either fund local company or foreign oil sheiks. I know which one I would choose. All the talk about people loosing their freedom to own a car is lies. It’s a straw-man. For individuals who are unable to understand bigger picture.
@@mikojarvinen6273 Sorry but we are not seeing local jobs. We are seeing wind turbines ( built abroad ) but no jobs for local people. Just grants used as bribes to allow them to be built in areas that are struggling economically and are unable to support businesses because of a lack of infrastructure and amenities being taken away. We are not seeing the charging infrastructure being built to meet the timescales that are being enforced through legislation. We are seeing overpriced SUV's being forced on consumers at every turn. This has normal people worried due to alternatives seemingly being deliberately discontinued. These are the same people who need transport for work, their mental health and do not have any off street parking. No straw man. Real people. With real concerns
@@robsmall6466 In Finland the green industry is huge and growing. We’re seeing a lot of new jobs and well being for the country. We have massive amounts of important minerals such as lithium. You don’t seem to understand how much it creates opportunities to companies, especially for our companies. Maybe we’re stealing the market from backwards countries. Good for us I suppose. I don’t understand you comment about SUVs. These particular models have never been affordable and aren’t supposed to be. There’s nothing wrong with that. Manufacturers start from most profitable models and later electrify more affordable models. VW is bringing ID2 EV which starts from 25k €. As much as a Golf. The fact is that moving to sustainable local energy is good for the economy and creates jobs. Spending money on foreign fossil fuels only creates jobs and boosts the economy of the foreign oil countries. Green transition creates a lot of opportunities and you need to take them not sit around. Complaining and waiting only means that you’re going to be the customers of those countries us who knew if was the right time to invest into green technologies.
@@mikojarvinen6273 Ok.... Number 1 - In Finland. World is a big place. Let's try and think of others. Number 2 - Backwards countries. Don't call other countries backwards. Your doing your own nation a disservice. Number 3 - Affordable SUV's. Dacia says Hi. Prior to electrification plenty were affordable. Ford Kuga for example. VW are only now turning to the ID2 concept because the ID is a poor effort. Consumers have forced them to reevaluate. Number 4 - Job creation. It's not happening. These green jobs are not replacing what was there before. Same when a mine closes. No more well paid jobs but they will open a call centre
@@robsmall6466 You can’t stop green transition. It’s going to cost you more in the long run if you try to oppose it. Regarding the SUVs. You didn’t listen. Manufacturers will be making more affordable electrified models as they already have. You can’t expect them to figure out everything immediately. 2026 it’s estimated that an EV will cost as much to produce as an equivalent ICE car. High performance EVs are already cheaper than high performance ICE cars. In Finland Tesla Model Y already costs as much as Toyota RAV4. You have to understand than fossil based economy is not sustainable in long run. Neither are the jobs. You shouldn’t oppose development. However new jobs and industries will be created. Excluding mechanics I can’t even think many fossil industry jobs in my country. Although even they have important role in the future, they’ll just need to adapt to electrified models.
i'll stick with my 3 litre diesel Audi A6 Avant thanks. And my two aging German Shepherds will stick with it too, as they can still jump in and out of it easily, whereas forcing them to try get in and out of one of these totally unnecessary tanks would be just plain cruel. Though as the owners of these things tend to have Bijons, pugs or freaky looking French Bulldogs - I guess you can just continue lifting them in and out: owners of real dogs drive estates!
that last test, it would have been good if you could see all four vehicles doing the same
I don't buy Volvo, a Chinese automaker. Because I don't want to hand over my information to China.
The elimination process is really weird. If they had done the tests in another order, another car could've won.
No. Whichever order you do it, the result would be the same.
@@trainman665 No... the order could change completely. Let's assume that the Porsche has the worst practicality (reasonable assumption I feel):
Imagine if they had carried out the tests in this order:
1. Practicality
2. EV range
3. Race
Then the final positions would have been:
4th - Porsche
3rd - Audi (less range than the BMW/Volvo)
2nd - Volvo (or 1st)
1st - BMW (or 2nd)
@@jamesfilosa6277 So the result wouldn’t have changed.
@@trainman665 - What do you mean? The Audi won but it could as well have finished 3rd.
@@jamesfilosa6277 They should've put every car through every test and then made it a point system.
The uncle has one xc90 great cars the bowers and wilkins sound system is amazing
I’d still have the Volvo.That Audi is ugly
The Volvo has superb lines and the rear is superb. Strange how Land Rover have just adopted it 😅.
I agree the Volvo xc90 is by far unbeatable
Had the Volvo. Horrid with rubbish engine and loads of road noise. Got rid and got the Q7. Loved it. So much better. Quality, ride performance and quiet.
This is not fair.
The same driver must test both cars.
Yes, I know from experience that the T8 brakes need a bit of a shove.
Yes, Volvo didn't get brakes from Lamborghini like Audi did in this test
As a diehard Audi fan, when it comes to SUV’s I’d take a Volvo over any of the Germans all day and I did when I got my XC40, I didn’t even consider a German brand.
Why is that? Why not an Audi suv?
@@dhvanantrivedi the main reason for me is I have a S4 as my fun car and the Q5 is the same exact thing in the inside, Q3s are outdated and cheaply looking. And with the Germans it feels more like the SUVs are just to fill gaps in the market for people that don’t want cars, while Volvo has had pretty much only 2 cars, 2 wagons, and their SUVs for the longest times.
@@driver8703 so basically it sounds like you had no reason except that you liked one better
I can’t believe you got rid of the Porsche and bmw. I think everyone who watched this would have liked to see those two in the performance test.
I agree with the verdict: large family SUVs are about the practicality and the comfort. If you prepare for a long journey of 2000 miles - you don't care about the acceleration and etc. What you need - enough space, good mpg and the comfort of sitting and driving. I agree, that Volvo XC90 is the number 1 of all the tested cars.
Good review but the BMW was thrown out on a slightly irrelevant basis. Technically it has the best range and would have likely won on speed and handling. It was right to exclude the Porsche on range. I think the exclusion of the BMW for that particular reason was probably the wrong call given that this was an EV death race.
your never rude about cars, always fair. makes for interestingly dull viewing.
We have a 2010 Q7 TDI. It’s great. We can fit a 70” tv in the box in it. Third row seat. Fuel mileage is low 20s mpg. ❤
Well done JP.
At the very end of this video, you confirmed to me and what others think that these tests, done like this, in changeable running orders, are 100% useless.
You said that the best SUV is a big one so the Volvo was the best overall. But the smaller Audi won thus proving that the way you're testing vehicles is definitely _NOT_ the best way.
I agree. JP concluded that the Volvo was the best all-rounder so how can the Audi have beaten it?
Love the VBH Hair g-meter.
What a rubbish test. The BMW & Porsche were eliminated by tests they don't want to be the best at. And then the 2 more practicle vehicles need to do the slalom test? Really: WTF
Keep your diesels..one day they will be worth a fortune.
Being an owner of both an 08 X5 and a 2012 Q7. I prefer the x5, as its much more user friendly as a driver (cup holders in right spot and sound track changing on wheel) compared to Q7, and the x5 infotainment system is much more informative and easier to navigate for everyday user and for maintenance/issue details.
We love our 2022 BMW X5 45e. ;)
The last test needed all four really instead of eliminating them you could have used a points system or a pass or fail
honestly ;) the test should be done by one person for both cars...
You forgot the mercedes GLS as well 😒
GLS is not in this class (size above)
Would be GLE
This isnt the best test only be cause there should have been a standard point for the suvs to start stopping.
I'd still get the x5
the crazy prices on these hybrid suv £70000!! and all you are getting is 30 to 40 miles on electric power which has taken 6 hours to charge up a complete waste of time
I got the XC90 T8 and have had it for 4 years now. You get a 7 seater that looks amazing and can do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds and has a tax (or BIC) rate of basically nothing. Anybody who is buying these cars to save the planet.. well I agree with you. :)
On a serious note though, they are very nice cars and if you want to burn off a boy racer at the lights they are so fun. They cost more to the environment to create than they'll ever save though.
So the Volvo would have won, but because you can turn off the traction control un the audi, it was a little bit quicker. but the test should have been fairer and the audi should have had its traction control on. Volvo stick to their guns and give you fun, but safe driving, audi couldn't give a shit if you crash or not, they just want the money...
Very little actually happening in many of these videos. A lot of chat, a lot of clips edited in, but that's about it. D-
So it's now called "plus lady sings"?
X5 is still the best. By far actually.
The Mercedes GLE 350 de hybrid would beat them all hands down, I know because I’ve gone one….50 mile real world electric range and 50mpg….Shame they didn’t test it but they are hard to get hold of atm….
Ugh no Volvo all the way
@@jacobstratton1523 Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it….I have!
Till you actually try it AND compare the price. I've just come out of a GLE350d into a Volvo XC90B6 Ultimate- £20k price difference and the Volvo is a far nicer place to be in. My only criticism of Volvo is the narrow engine choice as I'm used to big cylinder diesels. But the B6 hybrid lacks for nothing in performance - it is really surprising how refined and powerful this engine is.
@@williampatterson3683I couldn’t drive a car that seems to attract the woke brigade….😂
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Read the title and thought great finally you will blow up the buses, but alas no cigar. PT4: We blow up the buses so you don't have to look at them 😇
dont believe this test different drivers different results
It is so sad when two car experts decide to insult their own professionalism and expertise of decades by doing poor, invalid comparisons like this one.
X7 should have been included
So the winner is the BMW. Cool.
Wish you would stop breaking these not-very-long videos up into multiple parts. Knocking out cars along the way without letting every car complete the full test is also dumb.
That will be a quid Vicki and cough up😂
A Porsche guy will get a Porsche, A Bimmer guy will bet a BMW, Soccer moms will get Audi and retired people will Volvo.
Nobody actually cares if they can fit an extra bag in the boot.
Written by an American.
I am a Volvo guy and far from retiring lol
Volvo was becoming GARBAGES when they switched to FWD and transverally mounted engines.
NOBODY which owns even a spoon of brain will ever buy an big SUV which had FWD bias or had transversally mounted engine.
Two great cars an a godawful ugly BMW.
Why is the X5 here?
X5 vs Q5 vs XC60
X7 vs Q7 vs XC90
Surely?
No, X5 is the same size of Q7 and XC90. X7 is bigger then Q7 and Xc90
X1 vs Q3 vs XC40
X3 vs Q5 vs XC60
X5 vs Q7 vs XC90
Audi and Volvo don't have a rival for the X7
Death of petrol cars for him feeling smug 😡 weve destroyed all our industry to feel smug and everyone bout to lose thier freedom to own a car but its okay jason and people like him are smug 👍🏼
You just don’t get it do you? Imagine that instead of buying all the oil abroad from countries holding an oligopoly, the society would relay on local energy supply. This is economically smart, improves energy safety and most importantly creates jobs within the country. You can either fund local company or foreign oil sheiks. I know which one I would choose.
All the talk about people loosing their freedom to own a car is lies. It’s a straw-man. For individuals who are unable to understand bigger picture.
@@mikojarvinen6273 Sorry but we are not seeing local jobs. We are seeing wind turbines ( built abroad ) but no jobs for local people. Just grants used as bribes to allow them to be built in areas that are struggling economically and are unable to support businesses because of a lack of infrastructure and amenities being taken away. We are not seeing the charging infrastructure being built to meet the timescales that are being enforced through legislation. We are seeing overpriced SUV's being forced on consumers at every turn. This has normal people worried due to alternatives seemingly being deliberately discontinued. These are the same people who need transport for work, their mental health and do not have any off street parking. No straw man. Real people. With real concerns
@@robsmall6466 In Finland the green industry is huge and growing. We’re seeing a lot of new jobs and well being for the country. We have massive amounts of important minerals such as lithium. You don’t seem to understand how much it creates opportunities to companies, especially for our companies. Maybe we’re stealing the market from backwards countries. Good for us I suppose.
I don’t understand you comment about SUVs. These particular models have never been affordable and aren’t supposed to be. There’s nothing wrong with that. Manufacturers start from most profitable models and later electrify more affordable models. VW is bringing ID2 EV which starts from 25k €. As much as a Golf.
The fact is that moving to sustainable local energy is good for the economy and creates jobs. Spending money on foreign fossil fuels only creates jobs and boosts the economy of the foreign oil countries. Green transition creates a lot of opportunities and you need to take them not sit around. Complaining and waiting only means that you’re going to be the customers of those countries us who knew if was the right time to invest into green technologies.
@@mikojarvinen6273 Ok.... Number 1 - In Finland. World is a big place. Let's try and think of others. Number 2 - Backwards countries. Don't call other countries backwards. Your doing your own nation a disservice. Number 3 - Affordable SUV's. Dacia says Hi. Prior to electrification plenty were affordable. Ford Kuga for example. VW are only now turning to the ID2 concept because the ID is a poor effort. Consumers have forced them to reevaluate. Number 4 - Job creation. It's not happening. These green jobs are not replacing what was there before. Same when a mine closes. No more well paid jobs but they will open a call centre
@@robsmall6466 You can’t stop green transition. It’s going to cost you more in the long run if you try to oppose it.
Regarding the SUVs. You didn’t listen. Manufacturers will be making more affordable electrified models as they already have. You can’t expect them to figure out everything immediately. 2026 it’s estimated that an EV will cost as much to produce as an equivalent ICE car. High performance EVs are already cheaper than high performance ICE cars. In Finland Tesla Model Y already costs as much as Toyota RAV4.
You have to understand than fossil based economy is not sustainable in long run. Neither are the jobs. You shouldn’t oppose development. However new jobs and industries will be created. Excluding mechanics I can’t even think many fossil industry jobs in my country. Although even they have important role in the future, they’ll just need to adapt to electrified models.
i'll stick with my 3 litre diesel Audi A6 Avant thanks. And my two aging German Shepherds will stick with it too, as they can still jump in and out of it easily, whereas forcing them to try get in and out of one of these totally unnecessary tanks would be just plain cruel. Though as the owners of these things tend to have Bijons, pugs or freaky looking French Bulldogs - I guess you can just continue lifting them in and out: owners of real dogs drive estates!
Keep your diesels...one day they will be worth a fortune.