Puedes diseñarlo tu mismo, usa un inventor generative model, está herramienta en base a los parámetros que tu estipules puede generar formas orgánicas que optimicen el peo o la resistencia. Debes hacer unos cuantos cálculos y definir las restricciones y listo. Tienes un modelo optimizado listo para imprimir o fabricar mediante algún proceso definido.
...I'm surprised it took us this long to make a lore-accurate Orca Fighter, considering how many dozen projects have already been done in the past two decades. I'm impressed!
I've always wanted to make a drone based on the Orca (Tiberian Dawn version). It looks like you're flying as a tri-copter (can't be sure); are you looking into doing thrust-vectoring control for forwards flight?
I think it's naturally stable and the third fan is used only to make it pitch, really nice idea, didn't think about it. Probably more efficient than quadcopters, but it has to be naturally stable. Also no way to roll without yaw, or stabilize against wind from the side.
Are there ways to take the print direction into account for the topology optimization? Because such anisotropic materials that delayer easier, you would expect different optimal thicknesses in different directions.
Good question. I assumed isotrope behavior, which should have been nearly correct for Multijet Fusion PA12. Turned out it wasn´t, too brittle on impact, maybe because of anisotropy. Current solution is to use PA11, which is way more ductile! Until now, anisotropy seems no big issue with that material.
Thanks for asking :) It's a prototype and also needs some special FC tuning, so sharing it with good quality needs more preparation. I currently focus on developing the next model. If many people want an Orc though, there will be a way!
it is amazing to see all the new tools that have emerged and matured over the last decade for everyday people. I would love to see a full size version this concept aircraft
Absolutely amazing! I´ve always wanted to build an RC Orca myself but that project never went past the static display phase (files can be found thingiverse if anyone wants to have a scale model). Would be really interesting to know how much extra weight can be added before the flight characteristics become worse.
This makes me even more exited for the future. It's ironic how a design like this makes fans feel outdated. Image this design with silent ionic thrusters or something. that would be dope.
isnt the purpose of thos rotateable rotors/turbunes that the body can stay horizontal to flight tirection for aerodynamics? your model still seems to angle forwards when it starts flying forward. but none the less nice work.
Such a fascinating design, and design process. That the drone was able to meet weight, plus rigidity constraints and it flew quite well, is very impressive! Would like to see more details of topology optimization design process used in a future video. A simple design, to focus on tools used and the design process. Have seen discussions/graphics of topology optimization designs, but never applied to creating actual working object(s).
Amazing work! Can you please let me know what software you used for the topology optimisation? I've seen there is an add-on for FreeCad but I don't think it is stable for the latest versions. Thanks!
Thanks! I used Altair Inspire. It can also handle the CAD creation, worked pretty well for me. They usually give away free licenese for students, just contact them.
I'm amazed by such a great design, also the rendering is perfect, with textures and all the components that the model needs. Thanks for the inspiration!
did you use counter rotating dual blade setup in the tail? what did you do for the design of the propellers? anybody want to build a human size version?
Very cool project. I haven't seen much of this generative structures, so that was awesome to see. But please turn down or off the music when talking, it's rather distracting.
It's interesting that the Orca seems to angle forward when going faster, because that's exactly how it acts in the original game; in fact the craft has two sprite sets in the game, a flat one and a forward-angled one. (For the record, all vehicle sprite sets are typically 32 prerendered frames to get a full 360° rotation)
Process is real smart. Final vehicle looks a little underpowered, but the design should be able to adapt and adjust for that nicely through ongoing itterative fine tuning.
How did you determine the motors specs? Trial and error, past experience, or is there a approximation method of this voltage, this motor, and with this prop will produce this much trust?
All of it combined actually. The main thing is that there are enthusiasts for every topic, sharing their knowhow freely. E.g. I investigated drone builds on rotorbuilds.com/. Channels from Chris Rosser and Jushua Bardwell are also really valuable. www.youtube.com/@ChrisRosser www.youtube.com/@JoshuaBardwell
Wow. I'm blown away. This thing is art. Are the models for this available anywhere? Can you give an order of magnitude hint at what the printing costs were? If the models stay private, are you considering of a small commercial run? I'd love to have one of these. [ or v2. ;) ] On the topic of weight optimization, i think your fan shrouds don't need the bell-mouth on the bottom side...
Thanks for asking :) Small Comercial run is an option but would currently slow the development of the next design. Shower, if many people want that, go a find a way! The price for printing is middle/high 3 digits due to the size. There's a lot of potential for mass down/cost down.
An awesome project and outcome…. Would love to know your process…. 5 yrs ago I used Hyperworks software with modefrontier and HEEDS to do similar optimisation but the managers are Ford didn’t embrace it as their only focus was cost reduction and not weight/performance improvements…
Oh god the technology of peace. I dreamed on building a RC orca many, many times I love the whole VTOL concept and the ORCA is really unique, I love the fact that on your make it feels really like a fighter, moving easily forward and not howering that much like many other similar builds looks moves moslty like quadracopters. It really feels unique *note, please add a couple leds on the sides and some kind of flashlight to the front would feel awesome
Model bases on the C&c Tiberian Dawn Orca, which had a static rear rotor ;) But yes, it would be working fine to pitch the rear rotor. Actually it would be easier to get the model stable.
:D And the helipad must unfold itself! No, really, someone build that thing and let me know the Parts and interfaces I need to implement so it charges!
You may be able to solve the 'pitching forward' issue, by using a reverse thruster assembly on the rear duct. It will allow some of the air to be directed upwards, preventing the tail from lifting, which has always been a problem with VTOL craft.
I've been trying to create simple topology optimized structures for bicycles for forever and fusion 360 hasn't worked at all, ill check out Altair hopefully they are more intuitive!
Cool Vid! It's insane how far we have come manufacturing and modelling wise. How did you smooth out the topology optimised structures? Did you remodel the parts?
In the Software (Inspire), there is a feature called "Polynurbs". It is perfect to transfer topology optimization results into a clean CAD. With a standard CAD programm, I would surely have gone nuts ;)
Printed in carbon fiber nylon this would be nearly indestructible. Please let the 3D printers of the world play with this design and improve upon it. Only by freeing the data can we all improve the world together.
This is the most lore-accurate one I ever seen. So many forget about horizontal tail fan that does the pitching.
GIIIIIIIVVVVEEEEE MMMEEEEE TTHHHHEEEEE STL !!!!!!!!!!
Hell I’d pay for them!
@@bobbymccourt6794 I'd Buy That For a Dollar 🤖
Puedes diseñarlo tu mismo, usa un inventor generative model, está herramienta en base a los parámetros que tu estipules puede generar formas orgánicas que optimicen el peo o la resistencia. Debes hacer unos cuantos cálculos y definir las restricciones y listo. Tienes un modelo optimizado listo para imprimir o fabricar mediante algún proceso definido.
@@bobbymccourt6794si te sirve se podría hacer un grupo para diseñar y generar el modelo. Se puede lograr mediante inventor o solid works
This is so much more impressive that most people will understand, like to get that thing to actually FLY and fly that well is incredible!!
...I'm surprised it took us this long to make a lore-accurate Orca Fighter, considering how many dozen projects have already been done in the past two decades. I'm impressed!
The design, process and visualization of this project is amazing and cool
Very cool. C&C has always been one of my favorite games.
Wow this is awesome! The final tricopter looks like it flies very well! I am looking forward to more details!
I've always wanted to make a drone based on the Orca (Tiberian Dawn version). It looks like you're flying as a tri-copter (can't be sure); are you looking into doing thrust-vectoring control for forwards flight?
I think it's naturally stable and the third fan is used only to make it pitch, really nice idea, didn't think about it. Probably more efficient than quadcopters, but it has to be naturally stable. Also no way to roll without yaw, or stabilize against wind from the side.
Are there ways to take the print direction into account for the topology optimization? Because such anisotropic materials that delayer easier, you would expect different optimal thicknesses in different directions.
Good question. I assumed isotrope behavior, which should have been nearly correct for Multijet Fusion PA12. Turned out it wasn´t, too brittle on impact, maybe because of anisotropy. Current solution is to use PA11, which is way more ductile! Until now, anisotropy seems no big issue with that material.
So do you plan on sharing the files so others can replicate your work?
Thanks for asking :) It's a prototype and also needs some special FC tuning, so sharing it with good quality needs more preparation. I currently focus on developing the next model. If many people want an Orc though, there will be a way!
Great Project !. What kind of software is runnig on the FC ? ArduPilot, INAV or something else ?
BetaFlight. A little tricky to use as it assumes the rear rotor can tilt. Hower it still does a splendid job and people provide it for free!
it is amazing to see all the new tools that have emerged and matured over the last decade for everyday people. I would love to see a full size version this concept aircraft
Absolutely amazing!
I´ve always wanted to build an RC Orca myself but that project never went past the static display phase (files can be found thingiverse if anyone wants to have a scale model).
Would be really interesting to know how much extra weight can be added before the flight characteristics become worse.
I hope the updated version gets flip out wings and a go fast mode. Awesome!
This makes me even more exited for the future. It's ironic how a design like this makes fans feel outdated. Image this design with silent ionic thrusters or something. that would be dope.
interested in how you set up the controls. how does it know the angle to turn the thrust pods etc.
This made me really happy.
This is an awesome video. I wouldn’t have thought this came from a channel with less than a thousand subs
Skynet had the same idea.
An autentic 'Hunter-Killer'.
You mean the director
That was my first thought too lol
I love C&C. And now take my money for the frame kit :)
isnt the purpose of thos rotateable rotors/turbunes that the body can stay horizontal to flight tirection for aerodynamics? your model still seems to angle forwards when it starts flying forward. but none the less nice work.
Absolutely! It's just a matter of tuning the flight controller. Update ongoing :)
You should make more projects like this one. This is very cool looking designe.
subscribed
Finally a good working ORCA model
this gives me some very geeky ideas. You ROCK!
Such a fascinating design, and design process. That the drone was able to meet weight, plus rigidity constraints and it flew quite well, is very impressive!
Would like to see more details of topology optimization design process used in a future video. A simple design, to focus on tools used and the design process. Have seen discussions/graphics of topology optimization designs, but never applied to creating actual working object(s).
thats just awesome!
if i ever go "into drones" i would build one too
I've always wanted to make an Orca. Well done!
Very cool! It reminds me of the HK flying craft from the Terminator series too.
i am in Love! the movement is like the ingame , the Orca is my Favorite Unit of the GDI xD *Start instll cnc remstered*
Amazing work! Can you please let me know what software you used for the topology optimisation? I've seen there is an add-on for FreeCad but I don't think it is stable for the latest versions. Thanks!
Thanks! I used Altair Inspire. It can also handle the CAD creation, worked pretty well for me.
They usually give away free licenese for students, just contact them.
Beeindruckend. Video von der Kamera wäre interessant.
Also looks like a Hunter Killer from Terminator. Very nice project!
I'm amazed by such a great design, also the rendering is perfect, with textures and all the components that the model needs. Thanks for the inspiration!
Great video! liked and subscribed.
did you use counter rotating dual blade setup in the tail? what did you do for the design of the propellers? anybody want to build a human size version?
Dude!! The Orca was such an inspiration since childhood! This is insanely awesome. Can we buy the STL? I want to print it for my desk.
Very cool project. I haven't seen much of this generative structures, so that was awesome to see. But please turn down or off the music when talking, it's rather distracting.
That was also one reason for starting the project. Not enough good topology optimization videos out there.
Thanks for noting on the volume.
well done, which software did you use for the optimization ?
Thank you!
I used Altair Inspire. In the background, the program runs Altairs Optistruct solver.
It's interesting that the Orca seems to angle forward when going faster, because that's exactly how it acts in the original game; in fact the craft has two sprite sets in the game, a flat one and a forward-angled one. (For the record, all vehicle sprite sets are typically 32 prerendered frames to get a full 360° rotation)
Amazing work!!
Subscribed!
#metoo 😂
just what I was looking for some time ago
Full-scale model next!
Process is real smart. Final vehicle looks a little underpowered, but the design should be able to adapt and adjust for that nicely through ongoing itterative fine tuning.
Excellent Post. More like this and you'll have hundreds of thousands of followers.
This is actually amazing!
I've noticed ducts facing down to go forward, it just tilts down. is it possible to fly more like osprey with ducts facing to the back?
amazing, i also hav a design in mind which i would like to bring to life.
How did you determine the motors specs? Trial and error, past experience, or is there a approximation method of this voltage, this motor, and with this prop will produce this much trust?
All of it combined actually. The main thing is that there are enthusiasts for every topic, sharing their knowhow freely.
E.g. I investigated drone builds on rotorbuilds.com/.
Channels from Chris Rosser and Jushua Bardwell are also really valuable.
www.youtube.com/@ChrisRosser
www.youtube.com/@JoshuaBardwell
Very cool! So when are you going to build a much larger scale version?
Which CAD program did you use for the design process?
Altair Inspire. It also perrfomed most of the simulation work.
@@powerofn2858 Great! Thank you for the information!
Grate that looks awsome.
Where did you share te files?
Nice video.
I like drawing in Autodek Inventor myself
Incredible of what modern simulation software is capable of already and awesome that he really build it, looking forward to the 2nd loop.
Flash back to my 90s childhood lol. You guys releasing STL files for the Orca? great work
I can't wait to buy a kit. Great job.
Holy crap you literally brought a piece of my childhood to life. Are you planning on sharing/selling the files at all?
Which softwere are you using for creating simulation
It’s mentioned at 1:30 - Altair Inspire
@@jangrasmannsdorf7897 thanks bro
This orca was awesome to pilot in C&C renegade :) awesome work :)
Realy nice, do you plan on releasing the 3d printing files?
That is awesome, now to plan a production version for us all to buy?
Sehr cool, wo bekommt man die STL Daten und die Teile her. Gibt es so etwas wie eine Einkaufsliste? Der STL Daten z.b
Wow. I'm blown away. This thing is art.
Are the models for this available anywhere? Can you give an order of magnitude hint at what the printing costs were? If the models stay private, are you considering of a small commercial run? I'd love to have one of these. [ or v2. ;) ]
On the topic of weight optimization, i think your fan shrouds don't need the bell-mouth on the bottom side...
Thanks for asking :) Small Comercial run is an option but would currently slow the development of the next design. Shower, if many people want that, go a find a way!
The price for printing is middle/high 3 digits due to the size.
There's a lot of potential for mass down/cost down.
An awesome project and outcome…. Would love to know your process…. 5 yrs ago I used Hyperworks software with modefrontier and HEEDS to do similar optimisation but the managers are Ford didn’t embrace it as their only focus was cost reduction and not weight/performance improvements…
I would love to build a full scale one to use as a personal flying machine. Are tge STL files available anywhere?
Awesome work
Oh god the technology of peace.
I dreamed on building a RC orca many, many times I love the whole VTOL concept and the ORCA is really unique, I love the fact that on your make it feels really like a fighter, moving easily forward and not howering that much like many other similar builds looks moves moslty like quadracopters. It really feels unique
*note, please add a couple leds on the sides and some kind of flashlight to the front would feel awesome
Wow!
‘Engineering!‘ - RA2
In the game the rear rotor also pitches left and right. Maybe for slow speed manoeuvring, have you tried this in a prototype?
Model bases on the C&c Tiberian Dawn Orca, which had a static rear rotor ;)
But yes, it would be working fine to pitch the rear rotor. Actually it would be easier to get the model stable.
You made that look easy. Did you guys get it working on the first try?
Thanks!
Well, printing and buildup worked well. The tuning of the flight controller, and the receiver choice was tricky with some pain along the way.
Awesome work!
What's the actual weight of your drone?
Thank you! Just below 0.5kg. Its ok for now, yet there´s ample potential for mass reduction.
Now do an orca helipad with LEDs in it. and make it wireless charge that thing. 😎
shut up and take my money
Shit, that actually could fit perfectly
:D And the helipad must unfold itself!
No, really, someone build that thing and let me know the Parts and interfaces I need to implement so it charges!
@@powerofn2858 if its build into a "suitcase", you would basically unfold the helipad & have an orca there. lore accurate!
Does "Altair Inspire" run on GNOME OS ( Linux ) aarch64 ( ARM 64 bit )?
Hi! I use Windows 10. As far as I know, Altair software also ahs Linux versions. I´d suggest, just get a test license and test it.
So perfect sir
Tell me, what program was used to create this design?
You may be able to solve the 'pitching forward' issue, by using a reverse thruster assembly on the rear duct. It will allow some of the air to be directed upwards, preventing the tail from lifting, which has always been a problem with VTOL craft.
Excellent work!💪
Awesome ! The flight part is perfect with act on instinct in background :-)
Looks really cool, awesome job!
omg this is amazing
It is a very interesting thing !
I've been trying to create simple topology optimized structures for bicycles for forever and fusion 360 hasn't worked at all, ill check out Altair hopefully they are more intuitive!
Nice explanation and demo, great work, thank you.
This is amazing
this topology is inspiring
That looks amazing !!
+1 for the orca
Great video
Will it scale up to Human flight?
Very cool!
Why not using ABS ? Isn't plastic not lighter?
Cool Vid! It's insane how far we have come manufacturing and modelling wise. How did you smooth out the topology optimised structures? Did you remodel the parts?
In the Software (Inspire), there is a feature called "Polynurbs". It is perfect to transfer topology optimization results into a clean CAD. With a standard CAD programm, I would surely have gone nuts ;)
hunter killer drone t1 light version :)
GIIIIVEEEEE
MMEEEEEEEE
THEEEEEEE
SSSSTTTCCCC!
Oh shit, It actually flies
Printed in carbon fiber nylon this would be nearly indestructible. Please let the 3D printers of the world play with this design and improve upon it. Only by freeing the data can we all improve the world together.
Very cool dude. Excited to see what you do next!
😮 wie geil ist das denn?
Any updates on this project?
Amazing! Well done!
If it can scale and make it FPV, it will be crazy killer drone.
Now I want more