I 3D printed a 4-axis wire EDM machine that can cut anything conductive
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This is amazing! Great work.
Rare? My father bought a used one in 1980 for his Tool & Die shop, my older bought two more in later years. Many other shops had newer Wire EDM machines. I learned raw G code programming using a teletype for our first wire EDM machine. One of my coworkers at a research laboratory out sourced his parts to machine shops using wire EDM machines.
Sounds like you’re rare too:)
Ohhh, you fixed left audio channel only. Thank you!
I was wondering if I was going crazy and that I had seen it before or if this was someone stealing someone else’s video, but it makes more sense if he just reuploaded with the audio fixed.
Hey awesome, I'm definitely going to buy this. One tip, I think it would be really interesting to make some type of upgrade route where the EDM machine can cut its own replacement parts out of aluminium to make it stiffer. So it would be great if that is kept in mind when designing the 3D printed parts. Beyond that, awesome design! I can see a lot of love went into the design of this machine.
I do not see myself owning one of these, but will be watching your journey - easy sub to make. When shop/homemade CNC machines were first being introduced on TH-cam I predicted we were at the beginning of a new industrial revolution. I believed the CNC would drive a router, and with some modifications a laser. I'll now add and EDM to the list. The incredible power for inventors/makers with these affordable machines tinkering in a garage or basement will really advance society in both good and bad ways. Thank you for sharing. Great little machine.
Why are the bad ways? Gun inventors?
Would really love to see the actual work flow from design to cutting. Awesome project, as soon as it comes available in Europe I'll order one.
Okay, I will make a video on this.
I feel that software experience is going to be key, if you can get the user experience as noob friendly and approachable as modern 3D printing there’s a huge market of people who’d love this. If the process to get a part machining is esoteric and relies on the user being a CAM/klipper expert then it’s going to be a tough ask for most hobbyists.
well said Jon.
Seriously, this is the most excited I've been for the past decade. I'm definitely going to follow this and most probably buy one of these kits sometime down the line, so get ready to have them shipped to Europe.
Just found your channel and project for the first time. 100% saving up for this. I can already think of a few projects that my makerspace could use this on. Thank you for putting in all this work ❤
I'll wait for better tolerances. Gratulations gor your achievements so far! Super impressive
Damn, one video and I subscribed. Thats a record. I want to watch the progress of this device and your new company. Congrats!
Yes exactly my thought, I even subscribed after a few minutes into the video. Well made video, incredible to have access to desktop wire EDM machine (with a 400$ power stystem). Like he said, when I watched the prices back then for the power supply it was really 2-3K. So I'm looking forward to seeing the next version of this machine with great care.
Its going to be wild to see the kind of projects and products that this enables. Your existing non wire EDM machine already opened the door to precision manufactured 2d and stamped parts. adding a whole extra dimension with the capacity for precision rotary manufacturing as well is even more mind blowing! Best of luck in your future endeavors I can hardly wait!!!
This is incredible!! Very well done; I will definitely be buying your next version!!!
Lovely. I've enjoyed the various clips from 3D printer TH-camrs. This is the sort of thing I would love in my workshop (*cough* garage). Will be continuing to keep an eye out.
Looks great. I'd use button head socket caps where possible so all forces are basically compressive. The countersunk can flare and crack plastic if overtightened, button head are more forgiving.
I'm very impressed with this project, both in innovation and straightforward, elegant, engineering.
Thank you!
Amazing! Saw you guys @CNCKitchen. This as a disruption! Micro-mechanics: gears, watch parts, micro-surgery tool parts, brushless motor stators, gun parts, and injection molds etc. Open source, engineering, and product development at its best! I hope you great times! 😀
It's not a new type of machine. Watch parts are much more suitable with laser cutting and/or photoetching cutting. The wire has a diameter really not negligeable for micro parts to create. EMD wire machine can achieve incredibly tight tolerences but a micro gear or watch part, laser cutter can do sharp inside/ouside corner with not radius.
But I'm totally agreed with you, a desktop affordable wire EDM machine could me incredible, mostly the 400$ power supply. After that it's the precision of the X-Y movement of the machine, rigidity and so on that will dictate it's precision. I'm looking forward to seeing the machine and its price.
@@fabienl4979 Thanks for the detail. My bad; perhaps only clock parts, then (which actually someone mentioned) ;)
Sounds like rigidity is a simple problem. Then again, I have no idea about microscopic tolerances of a dynamic system =)
I need one of these! I have been thinking about building one for ages. This project may be it. Can't wait!
Beautiful work! I'm impressed!
Commenting to boost the trip vid
This is way cool!
Great Work Rack Robo!
exciting, always wanted to try one out, so looking forward to getting one. great video too.
That's incredible. Fantastic work.
Congratulations. I hope you sell a million of these!
I hope so too!
BRILLIANT. Easy, nobrainer subscription. I am looking forward to adding an EDfrigginM to my capabilities!
Very interesting, i didn't see the Kickstarter but interested when it comes out. How often does the wire break mid cut and how easy is it to thread, is there a way it can auto thread?
gods work. you are doing gods work. its like a stopgap until real 3d metal printing gets to the consumer level
Consumer 3d printing, especially with metal (if it ever even happens) will never be as accurate as these machines can be.
@@NigelTolley why. rocket engines and jet turbines are 3d printed, I think those industries require accuracy
@@alexross26 Rocket engines are printed from massive rolls of welding wire by robot arms and turntables. It's very neat - I've seen it happening - but the accuracy is in the millimetre range. The nozzle is metres across. You couldn't fit the machine in your house, even if you took the furniture out, and the 3 phase requirements are rather high. Oh, and it is £millions too. Jet turbines are done via a rather more accurate process, something like direct laser sintering of metal powder heated to near melting point under an inert gas. The risk of an inert gas killing you and your entire family in your sleep is likely too high for most, as well as, again, the power requirements and the costs that start from £200k. Maybe as low as £60k for the very lowest kit.
Having said that, there is a nylon 3d SLS/DLS printer coming out soon, running about £2k, dropping the price from the £16k bottom end of the market currently. Micronics. Look them up!
@@NigelTolley I went to a conference 30 years ago held by Apple where they explained why computers would never get any faster. Plenty of surprises to come with this technology.
My lord this a revolutionary, incredible work
Indeed. This idea has the capacity to change the hardware world.
Ohhh, very good, I worked doing mechanical projects and drawings for the first wire edm made in Brazil, it was long time ago, 1980. The electronics was made for a friend, he is electrical engineer, i belive this machine is working 'till now, was usede a Diadur CNC 2 axis only . . .
Amazing machine. Wish you the best
Amazing to see this! awesome work
Nice work! Following your work! And subscribed.
This is actually crazy. Awesome.
Yes, very good, like a lot. Sadly poor and luckily european, so eagerly standing by and thrilled for the things to come. :D
We will get to you soon.
@@MorlockEngineering Kisses.
Congrats on developing a game-changing machine! When are you guys looking to expand the team 👀? I’d love to contribute to a technology that will change manufacturing as we know it!
hell of a power supply there fella.
beautiful.
Awesome! I created "GatorCAM for cnc" with slow feed speed capabilities to allow for EDM!
You may really like it!
I'd want a more 2d axis version, designed specifically for sheet metal. From watching this video (no further knowledge) that would be the best use case for this type of machine.
With that Fith axis you could in theory cheaply make a lead screw for a 3d print plastic recycling machine if the tolerances are tightened up more. Then all you would need is a grinding machine which all you would need to do is cut out some gears and make a sturdy attachment for them.
This is simply amazing to see!
This is awesome. I'll be looking into this and following along. A wire chopper is a very good idea. I watched a guy drop a used wire spool and end up needing is calf muscle put back together.
On my infinite bucket-list... but a hat-tip to you for doing a decent job! Thank you.
You are welcome. Thank you for buying me lunch!
I personally dont have any uses for this, but I'm tempted to get one just to help out. This is amazing
This is gonna change the 3d2a space forever
I had no idea wire edm was so rare! Thankfully I work in a shop with 5 of them.
That's what I was thinking too. Not super common, but definitely not what I would consider "rare".
I worked in a shop with 16 wires for 20 years. Agreed, not super rare in the manufacturing world nowadays.
Thought the same, worked in a machine shop and we did occasionally outsource EDM work, and I can think of 4-5 shops that were within a 30 minute drive of us. Major metro city, so obviously not the norm, but still.
That said, this is still a fantastic idea, especially for those who live in apartments and the sort. Being able to manufacture metal parts in my room without bothering the neighbors is fantastic.
They're not rare 😅
Same
Just a note, we have 240 Volts rating in Sweden (Europe).
It was 220 decades ago.
Now we got 230 in practice.
Yes
Imagine, you could essentially print a planetary gear box with it.
Maybe it wouldn't be efficient and time-consuming, maybe some flaws. But as a demonstration in practice, it would be very impressive.
Not with those tolerances. You want to be in the 5-10 micron range, not 50-100.
What is this Voodoo magic? I have just purchased my very own workshop and planning the machinery right now! THis is definatley going to become part of the landscape!
Pure genius. I'm a manual machinist, the only CNC machine I have ever desired is a EDM machine.
This is so cool!!!!
This is awesome! Looks less difficult to build than the Voron 2.4 r2 I'm currently building.
An amazing project.
I have a couple thousand hours on professional EDM and this excites me very much.
Little tip, even if your hardware is flawless, it's all about the controller and software.
My Voron has single micron repeatability but it's useless without correct compensation.
Yes. I agree.
This is brilliant! Is the power core sold separately from the EDM Machine or does it come with it?
When do you expect the 50 micron machine kit to be avaliable? Looking for 0.001" in accuracy
Nice project , just take in consideration water shall be pure and filtering is a crucial parameter on wire EDM , aluminium is easy to cut but worth to filtering
We generally run 10 micron filters on our 100 PSI flushing pump.
Will it be able to have a tool swap head to use a brass rod to boar a hole to start a wire cut inside a shape?
why not pre drill one?
@marcusrauch4223 In very hard materials, it could be much easier and more precise to use a rod to create a small hole for the wire. Also, with that alternative attachment, you could produce some other geometry not possible with strictly wire edm.
Yes. That is a future possibility. We have done it before.
This is Stanley Meyer level knowledge
Awesome. Is it possible to recover electrode material from the water bath?
This is awesome! Have you tried cutting tungsten carbide?
Great work!
Ohhh this is so cool. I would definitely buy one!
Can you imagine the PC Speed demons going crazy with this thing to make custom solid copper heatsinks?
By using pure copper, they can then take a sledgehammer to their failed experiments( to protect their IP if they so desire) before selling them as scrap.
A machine like this would also be looked at by the mech keyboard crowd for making custom cases.
And think about the metal keycaps you could make with it (my main interest).
The cost to have them made (material cost not included) might be more than one of these units costs.
Can this unit also do the loss rod (for lake of a better bame) method as well?
If it can then holes in side the edges of a flat surface could be done without having to cut from the outside edge or drilling a hole first and then stringing the brass thread through that so as to complete the cut.
I know the drilling a hole method would be cheaper on consumables but if the user doesn't care or has other reasons to do so, that would add another level of functionality.
As both the power supply & cutting power supply are separate enclosed units, there should be very little problem to get this past the Canadian Standards Association or the European Stardards body.
How many litres in 10 US gallons?
Also can this unit cut brass & bronze? I ask because you are using brass wire and wouldn't like materials fuse/weld together instead of cutting?
I can cut and make lots of things at home with consumer 3D printers and laser engravers/cutters (Fiber & C02) but metal is not one I can really cut, expect for 0.2mm AL card.... This is an amazing development for home makers, well done!
Great work
I’ve been making EDM since sandstorm… was clearly doing it completely wrong. I am absolutely building one of these thanks you!
Thanks for sharing, if you make some videos telling the theory of operation of the power supply i have good expertise to suggest improvements, also I may have some tricks in my hat to lower the PCB BOM cost
Nice job!
I'd love to build one!
I love it. Very cool 👍
Wow , very cool machine ,impresive work, this machines ,the big ones cost a lot of money ,i think there is a market there for litle but usefull machines like this
Looks really well designed.
Thank you.
This is awsome, ive looked many times for a mini EDM for my hobby shop. When will it be ready for purchase and how would I go about ordering one? Is there anyway to place a pre order to ensure I can get when as soon as they are released? What the limitations are as far as material thickness and material type such as hardened tool steel, Can you use the wire as an edge finder to locate your part, or find the center of a hole before you start cutting? Great Job!
Wow! Bringing this tech to the hobbyist is incredible. For small to mid sized workshops, do you think it's possible to scale this up? Here's the dream: being able to cut standard >12mm thick steel sheets at pace with insane tolerances (without having to fork over silly amounts of money for laser cutting equipment), and keep floor space usage minimal.
Very interesting project
Nicely done. Let me know if you ever have a use for a coop student!
This is amazing, please tell me you are working on larger sizes
This is incredible
Its beautiful
blown away with the sexy design of this.
I’ve already got a powercore. Haven’t gotten around to installing in on my old Prusa. Interested in buying the kit without the powercore whenever you’re able to make that an option.
Might consider self sourcing the kit parts otherwise, but that’s probably more hassle than it’s worth..
Hello, will there be a BOM and/or videos on how to build one of these? Or will it be kept closed and you just have to buy the kit? In particular, what can I do if I already have the v1 power supply and would prefer not to re-purchase?
what abouts holes and slots? cutting, surfacing and angled cuts are clear, but with wire there should be entrance for a wire to cut holes, which isn't the best. would be there any option for that? tube electrodes like brass rod at the start? so far it looks like less capable machine vs cnc because of that
We will be making a hole popping tool in the future.
This, and the SLS 3d printer thats hitting the consumer market are literally game changing. At home manufacturing is finally becoming a reality.
LOOOOOve your stuff !!!! hope to get one as soon as i can
Thank you!
Amazing! Great job! Is this noisy when cutting?
No
This is very cool! Id love to see an applications video where you show what this can be used for.
Any future plans for a toolhead to do conventional EDM instead of just wire?
What are you using for torrids and guide in the heads? What are you using to control the K of the water? Are you doing continuous filtering to prevent arcing?
We are using EDM ceramic wire guides in both the top and bottom tools.
Filtration is optional, unless you are doing multi-hour cuts in which a lot of chips are produced. For those cuts, we have found that 10 micron filters work perfectly fine for keeping the water conductivity low.
Water conductivity matters much less, we have found, when you are not trying to hit single digit micron accuracy.
@@MorlockEngineering All very good answers. thank you.
Is there any EMI shielding on the Powercore? Bit concerned about the plastic case.
In Europe nominal voltage is 230V AC but spec is +/- 10% so from 207V to 253V and higher end is very common due to popularity of PV
Not a problem. The SMPS is rated from 90 to 264 VAC.
Great invention! I love the concept of this, but if I wanted to create a larger one just to cut out a shape (1200*400mm) and through plunge 30, 40mm square holes through 3mm aluminium. I'm guessing the brass rod is the way to go and that won't last for the duration of the cut?
Re-upload? Also why no shipping to Australia for PSU?
We will be working with distributors soon for non-US sales.
I re-uploaded the video to fix the audio.
It would reverse the polarity.. being down under
Australian electrical safety rules, in particular earthing requirements, are quite strict. Any device that is mains powered has to comply with a heap of rules otherwise the importer can face jail time.
I have to say that this project is really impressive. I come from a CNC Kitchen video and this catched my eye. Got to do my own research to get here.
Let's boost the algorithm. This is real work of art and engineering combined. I work in plastic injection moulding and I have to design the electrodes, many of which are wire edm cut.
I would love to buy one, or maybe wait for the industrial scale one. I would also love a video of the 3D assembly.
This project has future.
Thank you. What do you mean by industrial?
@@MorlockEngineering I mean no disrespect but, like with 3D printers, it takes a period of time where a product becomes better in the way that it's worth buying for bussinesses. For a guy in his garage, this is epic. But for a small/medium bussiness the risk is too high. They would probably spend more on something that has more experience/background.
Really cool power supply and machine 👍I especially like that it can cut diagonally too.
What about water filtration and cycling?❓Is it just open flow from the tap to the drain?❓Or cycling without filtration?
Also:❓Can the waste spool be used one or a few more times? Or is it pretty much done in the first pass?
I like using a 10 micron filter after the flushing pump to recycle the water.
We are going to leave the flushing and filtration as a self-source system. Different users will want different pumps and filters depending on their application.
I am currently going into my senior year in a mechanical engineering degree and would love to discuss the possibility of interning. I’ve taken some introductory CAD classes and have used inventor to design parts and to create some simple assemblies. I would love to further my CAD capabilities and to work on such an interesting, innovative project. Loved the video !
Can the high current power supplier you developed be used to power a resistant welder?
I wonder if USB C to power it would make things simpler with regards to certification etc.
While no 240W adapters exist that I've seen in the wild, 140W ones are somewhat common place, which makes it realistic to power all of the cutting from a single USB-PD port
Incredible
can't wait to order powercore v2
Noice!
Does it have any water filtration?
Does it need it?