externally regulated alternator to internally regulated conversion EASY WAY gm how to
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- car is a 72 monte carlo
easy way to convert a GM externally regulated charging system over to an internally regualted without cutting any wires
What are the two wires at two minutes and 30 seconds that you’re using? the two rainbow shape ones
the whole point of the video… WOW
@@chriscraft77022 I was just asking what do I search for like what is that wire called? just a double jumper wire like you said in the video I just didn’t know if there was like a technical name for it
And size and all
@@chriscraft77022 what gauge and what size are the metal ends?
@@chriscraft77022 yeah so…. Can’t find that size of the metal terminal part. What size is that? Bought two kits and they all to big to fit into the regulator harness.
Your advice was spot on! The new alternator is producing 14.2 volts! Thanks again for posting this!
I know what i will be doing to my 68 lesabre this weekend thanks for this awesome video
Thanks for the video man, I had a new alternator for a mid 80s SS Monte Carlo sitting around for a decade that I was able to use when my generator in my 72 Monte died thanks to your video.
This should help tremendously, I just picked up a 74 Nova and on the way home noticed the GEN light was on, figures the one thing I wouldn't question is the thing that could have made me call AAA. Time to upgrade.
Will this work on a 1964 Buick Riviera? I want to install a 105 or 200 amp alternator. I have two alpine amps 450 watts each ,one is for a sub. I’m also going to install a MSD electronic ignition & 8.5 plug wires.
Hello my friend, i could use some help. I have a Mercury Monterey custom 1962, this vehicle has a generator with a regulator with exterior voltage already integrated. I'm trying to put an alternator instead of a generator. My question is how can I connect the alternator and eliminate the use of the regulator part. I was watching a video that you posted where you explain the different connections. This regulator has only 3 connections AR, FL, and BAT. My alternator is the same as in your video with 3 exits. How should conect it ? , Hopefully you can help me.
they sell kits to do this exact same thing... a little box plugs in and jumps the wires... THEY WILL HAVE YOU RUN A DIODE TO #1 WIRE ON ALTERNATOR pointing towards the ALT
Alternator plug went bad ...2 wire original....new purchased plug has 3 wires...Do you know where 3rd wire goes...Im assuming it's a ground ...🤔
Do you have a video like this one for F100 ford conversion
no, but I had a 67 mustang and I ran the same alternator as this … and removed all that Ford shit wiring mess …
I made my alternative 1&2 blue and white wire plug with female spade connector soldered and heat shrink
Hello Chris, thanks for the video! I had a question. This video mentions swap connector and then connector it to the alternator. However your other video you disregard the F1 on the alternator when it came to your Chevelle. I am also working on a 1970 Chevelle so do I wire F1 or not?
my chevelle has a ammeter in the dash.. no gen light.. my chevelle does have F1 hooked up with a diode.. watch my gm 3 wire hook up alternator video
The thing is,once you watch this video and see how easy it is,don't watch another after and forget all you saw before. If you don't do that,you'll get dazed amd confused. Thanks for the share man👍👍✌️
I just did this to my 64C10 exactly the same . My voltage gauge on the dash is now pegged at the bottom? Any help ?
Hi Chris! Great video, very informative. If it's not too much to ask, would you please enlighten me? I have a 1979 Opel manta b that I can seem to figure out how to wire. The solenoid has only 1 red wire attached to it it starts and runs but it has a very low orangey spark. Should there be another wire that goes somewhere? Thanks man..
Thanks chris good help for my 1972 intern alternator GOD BLESS YOU MAN👍welcam to MEXICO
Great video. Short to the point. K
if you have problems watch my gm 3 wire hook up video with the Chevelle
Will this work on a 71 mustang??
Does anything work on a 71 Mustang?
lol all the warnings 'unplug your friggin battery' are the words of a man who has thrown some sparks with a tool arc. I would have the same warnings for others as those sparks got me jumpin! unhook your battery you lazies!
Mine has the 1 power wire and the 2 for the plug. Looks like you have and extra red wire.
Does this also apply to a 71 cutlass because I tried it and my GEN light is constantly on ,even with the car off then when I turn the car off atg the switch it continues to run until I disconnect the jumper from the blue wire
+Blue Suzuki if it doesn't work your wiring has been messed with... watch my 3 wire alt hook up
Blue Suzuki i wonder can twist the wires together from the regulater. or do u have jump plug with wires
the easy way
the only thing i have to say is to take time to clean all your clips, because on such an old car, just move them can bring reliability issues
What 140 Amp alternator should I use on my Chevelle when I convert to a 1 wire alternator?
Another great video. I'm doing exactly this with my '70 C-10.
So did the conversion work?
Great job on the conversion! Planning to do this on my 1970 Monte!
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can u show a video how to reaplacemant the fuse box on 1970 chevy Monte carlo
What part number for the best alternator or application do I buy? Thanks!
The beauty of GM alternators is that they're all the same size dimensionally through the 70s and 80s, except for diesels. The easiest way to pick one, is to get one from a truck. 1979 would be a good year. If you have rear defrost or power windows, get a high amp option. If you have no electrical options, a mere 36 amp alternator will be fine.
You'd want a 63 amp or lower from an early 80's squarebody/g body etc.. The optional 80 amp truck alternator is NOT the same dimensions, it requires a different bracket
Autozone has a plastic voltage regulated that fits right in with rebuilt alternater
Will this work on 1967 Cadillac
I put an alternator with Internal regulator on 72 chevelle but never bypassed the externally mounted one. Will this damage anything?
just jump the plug and you will be ok.. i dont know what it does
Why do some people jump the #2 to the power on the back of the alternator?
Incredible man I did the same on my 1964 Cadillac and it works super thanks
So those two wires sparked off of the alternator no key on nothing now car is dead help
Cool, now when your regulator dies, you can spend 3x as long tearing the alternator apart to replace it instead of just unbolting it from the engine bay. JK, good video
i quit rebuilding alternators like 18 years ago... i just warranty them out at oreilly if they go bad.. externally regulated is NOT the way to go.. the external regulators are over $60 the reman alternator is like $50
@@chriscraft77022 Oh, I agree that internally regulated is great, but when I can rebuild one for $20 with bearings and brushes made in USA, I would rather spend $20 than spend $50 for one that's made in China on my personal vehicle. Internal regulators last a very long time, its just a pain of one does happen to die. For a customer's car, internal is 100% the way to go.
love it good tunes as well
Do you always work on you car by candle light?
Cleanest way we seen to do it yet ! Thank you for this 👍
I have a Ford regulator but the wiring patterns are the same. This video saves me a lot of work. Thanks
Kin fu did you install it on you Ford?
Do what your saying is unplug the white wire going into the alternator and hook my jumper wires back up as shown in the video?
+Blue Suzuki unhook #1 wire from alt and figure out why it's on with the key or hot all the time... it is supposed to come on with accessories... watch the 3 wire video
The wiring is a factory there no cuts in it as a matter of everything is still in the factory look except the alternator wires
+Blue Suzuki if the car keeps running the #1 wire is back feeding to the ignition.. you can just unhook #1 until you figure out the problem.. you just have to rev it up to get it to charge.. what is your charging voltage? you might have to run a diode to #1 watch the alt video
Very good video so so simple and to the point...
What happens those two wires one if them arcrd off the alternator
Great video Chris, this should work for my 1969 C10? My truck is a 250 straight six on a 12Volt system with external voltage regulator?
Raul Garcia did it work for ya
Car don't have notta no lights no start no nothing I need to know
As Denzel Washington said in training day My Nigga
How will my charging light or gauge work doing this?
it will 100% ... just study the wiring and look at what is being connected
Do you have a clue if this would work on a ford
So is there no ground hooked up on this?
I did your easy jumper trick. The alternator charges fine now however I have a constant amp draw. If I un-jump the center two white to red the draw goes away however I have no juice to the ignition. Any ideas?
this is not a trick.. you probably have alternator wired backwards.. you did change the alternator?
Where do i tap the ammeter for an internally regulated alternator?
I have an ammeter video
@@chriscraft77022 fantastic. Thanks so much Chris. Sub'd ur channel.
@Chris Craft I'm considering doing this on my 69 Pontiac Grand Prix do you know if this would be the exact same for a Pontiac I have 2 wires on the bat terminal on the alternator I think the second wire is a fuse able link I see you only have one wire going to your bat terminal on your internally regulated alternator ?
yes connect those 2 wires to the lug BAT on the new alternator.. it could be an ammeter lead if it has a fused link.. it may be wired different from my chevelle but will not hurt anything.. the main thing is not getting an alternator over 75amp output
@@chriscraft77022 ok thanks appreciate it
I have problem whit my car ... Dont wanna Turn off Still keep on even if I take the keys out of the Swuits The car still run ...First think Is the Swischt
just un hook #1 wire to alternator until you figure out the problem.. i have a gm 3 wire alternator video with chevelle (not truck) .. check that out.. alternator will charge without #1 but you have to rev it up a little
Do you have to buy an new altenator or use the same one
Okay I got it so as soon as it starts to charge the ALT lightg will go off???
yes... that is the charging light feature.... just like in the car you drive to work
I was able to replace alternator and battery with new ones but still not charging battery. I disconnect battery and engine turns off, I check with meter and reads 12.5 v with engine on but that's what the battery reads too so nothing higher when engine is on. Can this regulator prevent power or alternator from charging battery?
Did you ever figure it out? I’m having this exact problem now.
Just did this on my 66 olds 425 worked perfectly thanks man.
Im trying to get this conversion to work on my '87 Prelude, so I can throw in a 90amp Bosch. There is 6 wires off the regulator plug tho. And only 5 are documented.
2 wires input off the alternator. *2* go to charge indicator. 1 goes back to battery. 6th one goes... god knows where
Positive. Honda had their own bizzaro-world way of doing... everything... until the late 80s. And that includes external Voltage Regulators. Because reasons. :-/
If I could add photos to these comments I could show you
Did you figure it out?
Great video, thanks so much, everything is working Awesome.
will this work for my polaris 800 atv?
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Off topic question. I am helping a friend with a 1986 C10. The alternator gets really hot to touch with truck off, even off overnight. Any ideas? I'm stumped. Pulled plug on side of alternator and it does not get hot.
clean your ground cables first .. I have an automotive grounds video
@@chriscraft77022 Thanks
do the wires going to the voltage regultor need to be rewired like u did in the beggining of the video if the number two wire is going to the positive on the alternator?
jordan lumbreras yes for your gen light to work
So I just did a engine swap in my 70 Nova, from the original inline 6 250, to a vortec I pulled out of a 99 tahoe.
I am having issues with it charging, I did almost everything you did, except my alternator only has one smaller brown wire coming out of the clip, besides the red cable going to the positive side of battery.
I connected the brown wire from the alternator to the original blue wire, my GEN light is only on when the key is ON, but turns off after I start the car. Once I start the car; it only charges just over 13 volts. Is that good? I am not getting 14+ volts like you are.
At the old Voltage regulato terminal do I jump it like you showed? (1-4, 2-3)? Cus a website i was following said to jump 1-3 and 2-4
Awesome Video Straight to the point Exactly what I was looking for Thank you Very Much !!!!!!!!!!!
Tried your tips and went from 12.5 volts charging to 14.1 volts- HOWEVER, the next day my alternator started charging at FULL FIELD- 17.8vdc. WTF? I don't need my battery boiled.
Will thiswork on a 66 mustang v8? If not, can anyone help? My alternators charging at 15 and 14 on idle. Plus my gauge is flickering. Can't figure out why. Any advice anyone?
Great video. But the new alternator I bought has 4 prongs instead of the old 2. I don't know which 2 to go to. And it's American from an alternator shop. What do I do?
Great video. Mine is a 1962 Nova that was half way converted to a internal voltage regulated Altenator. The voltage shows 14.4 volts when running but the wiring needs attention. Have a pic of my wiring. Can i post it from comments?
I appreciate this greatly! It's exactly what I'm looking for.
How would you do this on a 64 impala where there’s only two wires off the plug that goes into the alternator
What you mean
I have a 1972 Malibu 307 with an internally regulated alternator. The dummy light on the dash came on and will not go off. Voltage when running is 14.3 so it appears to be charging. I put a dummy light under the hood at the alternator and it works like it should. Goes off when running. Light on dash still stays on. Any ideas? Thanks.
did you jump the voltage regulator plug?
@@chriscraft77022 Yes. The wiring and the jump look good. It was fine and then one day the gen light came on. Thought the alternator crapped until I checked the voltage and tried the under hood idiot light. Also noticed that some of the other dash lights were acting strange. Glowing dim or not coming on with the key at ignition before start. Short of some sort in the dash? Thanks for the reply.
Great, now Herbie goes to Monte Carlo. All jokes aside, thanks. My beetle just got a new chrome Empi alternator to go with my new engine. The old external regulator one couldn't keep up with the 1916cc rebuilt twin port. It was on it's way out and started putting out 17 to 19 volts at my battery. Then it had a meltdown and threw the belt. Similar scenario with the gen light on the instrument cluster and exciter wire.
"Unplug your fricken battery"
Said with the tone of voice of someone who knows exactly why you do that.
I do too...haha
I did the 1 wire alternator and this conversion and it charges but now the car squeaks when the 12v plug is plugged into the back (when its off, it doesnt squeal), and my stereo has some type of whining noise now too..
When I take the red wire off the back of alternator both of these issues are fixed.. but no charging. Any thoughts ? Thanks!
I just did this on my 66 Chevy truck and I'm very grateful for the video it works great thank you so much
What alternator did you use and is yours a 292 engine... just wondering what alt will work with my brackets
Looking to upgrade my 66 Buick alternator will this work
Thanks sir great.
I'm so happy to see your site...Its frickin awesome...Its almost to easy..So how or what would a guy use to attach the conversion wire harness end so it won't dangle ..I'm clueless about all this wiring deal.My car was almost stripped out of everything when I bought it...Hard lesson to learn...
Ok Thanks I well Try
PERFECT GOOD JOB!!! Great explanation!
Just here to say thanks
Awesome man thank you. I picked up a 72 Pontiac Ventura for my sons first car and it was having a charging issue. Previous owner put a new alternator on it but left the original regulator so it was only charging around 12 volts or just under. She’s charging fine now but I still have the generator dummy light on. Any reasons you can think of as to why? Not a big deal he can drive it as is.
I did install new alternator & have it wired thru the OG-stock regulator but it still has a voltage drain at the hot alternator lug? I seen you use a diode & thought maybe that is the solution? Could you tell me what is the amperage/size diode I should use, or other solutions? I did a diode test between cable & battery, it did work but not sure it won't burn up as I start vehicle? Thank you.
This was the exact video I needed! Thanks so much !
Hello Chris i really appreciate your videos they are all very helpful and educational i do have a question for you hope you can help me with I’ve got CVF alternator that’s a one wire deal but it’s got 4 prongs and one is a little bit further apart then the other 3 I’ve not been able to get anywhere with CVF on the phone but they say they don’t sell any plugs or anything for there alternators crazy to me Thanks buddy
Cris craft you the man gotta 1972 monte carlo 454 just did the conversion runs top notch thanks bro
So. I have original 1966 wiring for a external regulator. Alt on left side of engine. Crate engine alt is on right side of engine. New alt is a one wire. Is this the same process to eliminate the external regulator?
I have a 1 wire alternator video
@chriscraft77022 . Looks like I might have figured it out, but my voltage to the battery while charging is.a.little over 1 volt lower through original wiring vs direct connection to battery.
Ok. 1967 Pontiac firebird generator light stays on after turning car off, replaced alternator old one bad replaced voltage regulator gen light stays on after turning car off possible bad regulator
so if you take the key out the light still stays lit?
Chris, I did voltage regulator, 1 wire alternator and no matter where I put white and blue wire on the alternator the generator light comes on with the key off. Something is not right. Everything is new, can you help.
The new one is has the 3 wire inputs, but I did try your one wire method with exciter wire but getting voltage drain. Then I changed setup with old wires & jumpers across the regulator plug yet still I have voltage drain, but when I disconnect hot alt wires it stops drain? Not sure alternator is bad?
you don’t test an alternator by taking the wires off. #2 has to be connected at all times or you will overcharge
watch my gm 3 wire alternator hook up video. it covers everything
did you unhook your battery lol great vid well done with no bullshit you should get the noble prize. getting ready to do this on a 70 gmc did it many years ago on one but it wasn't this easy. I don't think. at this point in time I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday . thanks . and don't forget to unhook the battery
4:20 When you pry back the "keeper" tabs on the female brass terminal connector you MUST be very careful to NOT be too ROUGH or HEAVY handed with them. Don't pry them back VERY far either they WILL snap off. These are the keeper tabs that the video instructor mentioned 3:31 about halfway through the video that you push down on to cause them to "disengage" on the inside of the original alternator's ( white ) plastic connection plug. SO BEFORE you insert each wire into the plastic connection plug for the NEWER style, internally regulated alternator - you HAVE TO pry the "keeper" tab, of each wire, back outward so that when you insert the wire into the new plastic connection plug it will be "kept" in place. You'll feel it "click" when you've pushed it in far enough. That will indicate that it's inserted far enough and will stay inserted. You can gently pull back on each wire after you've inserted them to TEST whether or not the keeper tab had indeed "grabbed onto" it's companion mounting surface inside the plastic connection plug.
Chris, do you have a FB page?
Or another contact Like an email? On my alt side the wires aren't right. There's a red wire on the clip meaning where you push the fittings into the slot. The red they have going to the post on the backside of the alt. I want to try to sent you a pic. Ken
So looking at my wires on my alt, and I think this is wrong. In the plug position, meaning the number 1 that one they have wired, with a wire going to the back post-power of the alt. In yr diagrams that wire should be the number two position. My Gauge reads only 12:3 volts only.
Can this be done on a 1970 Buick skylark?
Hey man what gauge is the double jumper cables u made ?
Worked great
I have a ‘66 Chevy and bought it a new starter, alternator, and alternator regulator. the battery kept dying over time. Checked for drains but there wasn’t any. The alternator wasn’t giving the extra 2 Vs, so we bought a new one. New one didn’t either. I’m trying this out. Thanks
I have a 67 impala, did this set up work for you?
Yeah, however, I had to change the brackets so that the new alternator would have a good fit
@@MexicanJesus1998 Hey, where did you get your brackets for the new alternator and the jumpers from?
@@clearedhot6146 Not too sure about what you mean with the jumpers. I guess any auto parts store. And the brackets I had to improvise with some scrap metal I had around
@@MexicanJesus1998 I thought you had to get some alternative brackets to fit the new alternator and jumper wires appear to be flat which seemed to allow the wires to slip right into the slots. All of the ones I've been seeing appear to be round on on the end
Great Video! Upgrading my 65’ Chevelle but Alt is on Driver’s side.....Do I need to be concerned with stock wires overheating or even burning causing fire?
great video
Thank you
Will this work on a 67 cad? i have an oem externally regulated system and want to upgrade to an internal reg higher output alt
yes
@@chriscraft77022 thanks going to upgrade this weekend
how many amps are you going with? You can only run up to 75amps with the existing charging wires
@@chriscraft77022 100 amp
I have a 100 amp upgrade alternator video you should watch.. you can and will fry the charging system with 100 amp
I had a 1966 Chevy 2 (Nova) station wagon back in the late 1980's it had a bad voltage regulator and putting the new one in and "balancing" the strength of the magnetic field in the ( external regulator ) was a pain in the ass. I said to myself: there's got to be a WAY to put the more modern version of A/C Delco, internally regulated alternator on an pre 1973 Chevy ( or other G.M. vehicle ) I was thinking about it again tonight 3 am, Saturday August 14th, 2021 and looked it up on TH-cam. It's so simple ! A MILLION thanks to you for this great, great video. I don't understand why ANYONE would give this a thumbs down. - Jim in Buffalo, Ny
thanks a mill,,,worked like a charm...
Where is the video showing how to wire it to the bulkhead