2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia Estrema - POV Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Press release:
Based on the top-of-the line Veloce trim, Estrema models bridge the step to the high-performance Quadrifoglio model with standard adaptive suspension and limited-slip differential
Unique exterior and interior design include carbon fiber veneer
Estrema is powered by a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine with best-in-class standard horsepower at 280, routed through an eight-speed automatic transmission to standard Q4 all-wheel drive on Stelvio Estrema (optional Q4 on Giulia Estrema)
Estrema is the first globally available limited-edition series from Alfa Romeo
2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia Estrema and Stelvio Estrema will be available in the third quarter of 2022
March 28, 2022 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - Alfa Romeo introduces the limited-edition Giulia Estrema and Stelvio Estrema series. This new offering is the first time Alfa Romeo has created a globally available limited model.
Engineers started with the premium Veloce trim level and added driving dynamics technology from the high-performance Quadrifoglio model, including standard Alfa Active Suspension. The advanced suspension technology reads the road and quickly adjusts shock valving to deliver greater handling characteristics at speed while maintaining a comfortable ride. The control system acts according to the selected mode on the Alfa Romeo DNA performance switch in the center console. Estrema models benefit from continuous dynamics and weight collaboration with Alfa Romeo’s F1 Team ORLEN to get the most out of Formula 1 know-how.
The Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio include standard active cruise control, Active Blind-spot Assist, Lane Departure Warning, automatic emergency braking and forward collision warning with full stop capability. An optional Active Assist Plus package includes:
Driver Attention Alert
Intelligent Speed Assist
Highway Assist System
Lane Keep Assist
Traffic Sign Recognition
Traffic Jam Assist
Active Blind-spot Assist with braking
Security alarm
The turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine and eight-speed automatic transmission are shared with Giulia and Stelvio models. The Estrema adds Alfa Romeo’s Q4 all-wheel-drive system standard on the Stelvio and optional on the Giulia. The direct-injection engine delivers best-in-class numbers for a standard powertrain with 280 horsepower and 306 lb.-ft. of torque. That output helps deliver quick acceleration times:
Giulia: 0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds for RWD and 5.1 seconds for AWD
Stelvio: 0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds for AWD
Additional technology the Estrema model shares with the Quadrifoglio includes a limited-slip rear differential, which distributes torque and traction during acceleration.
The limited-edition Estrema models are available in four colors:
Alfa White
Alfa Rosso
Misano Blue
Vulcano Black
Both Stelvio and Giulia also include a dual-pane sunroof that allows more natural light. The interior is finished off with a 14-speaker Harman Kardon audio system and wireless phone charging.
Pricing:
Alfa Romeo Giulia Estrema RWD - $55,090
Alfa Romeo Giulia Estrema AWD - $57,090
Alfa Romeo Stelvio Estrema AWD - $58,950
Prices exclude a destination of $1,595
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7 years have gone by since the Giulia was introduced in the market. Still, after all this year the Alfa Romeo Giulia is a gorgeous car and one of the best. Shame it did not sell well.
At least the top-of-the-range models sell very well.
In proportion, the models that had to do the numbers were sold less; for me it is a bit like it is considered a sports car rather than a sedan
Yeah it didn’t sell well because they built it with passion, assuming everyone will understand what was Giulia built for. Unfortunately 90% of drivers can’t event tell if their car is FWD or RWD…
@@maxz2552 Sadly true
@@maxz2552 that is also true. People complain about some of the plastics used for the interior. But will not complain when the German brands do the same.
How are the models sold 7 years ago fairing right now though?!😅 Are they still functional after 100k miles?
Finally a video on non-QV model of Giulia. This car is so underrated yet gets the most looks among Audis, BMWs and Mercedes. @TheTopher you are probably the second person who has filmed on normal Giulia since 2020! Thank you for this !! I knew all these amazing things about Giulia which made me get one😊😊
When we look at the Alfa Romeo line up, we tend to think Quadrifoglio or nothing else! You’d rather want to wait until you can find a QV model before you buy!
@@ntwalipat2 They are not "affordable" as regular models. For lot of people like me who can afford regular models, I would definitely go for it as they handle best in class.
It's awesome to be different. 👍👍😎
I've put 40K on my 2018 and it's been more reliable and way sweeter to drive than our last three Audis. The rear-based Q4 system is also epic in the winter.
Yea its very different than ur regular audis, bmws, and mercs. Only other one i can think of is volvo
I know right? If I could have any Audi, it'd be in this order:
Q3 (gas only)
Q5 TDI (I'll take the gas ones too)
Q7 TDI (as well as the gas)
A6 TDI (as well as the gas)
A8 TDI (as well as the gas)
A4 or S4 (I'd also take the TDI in the A4 as well, despite them being really hard to find)
A7 TDI/A8 TDI
A5 (same deal with the A4)
R8 (either as V8 or V10)
Also, next Sunday is the 7th anniversary of the VW Dieselgate cheating scandal.
i dont believe you saying that an alfa is reliable lol
@Engi_Nerd Thats awesome. I was always curious, does it allow you to slide in the snow or does the systems interfere even on the lowest settings?
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For those who don’t know/are unfamiliar: you can program in ‘Race’ mode from the QV into the 2.0 Giulias which allows you to turn off TCS - mind you that does mean paying for a MultiECUScan license, a set of adapters and a bypass for the SGW (~120 bucks all in)
Did that with my Giulia. Was pretty straight forward but you have to make sure you have correct software, cables, tools, etc.
Exactly, I got so used to the race mode in my non QV giulia that I almost forgot the car doesn't come with it. However you have to warn people that there is a downside to that modification, the adaptive gas pedal will default to neutral in all modes. Still soo worth it.
@@Gameover571 actually no, only in ‘Race’ the throttle response dials back to ‘Natural’ mode, all the others are maintained - and I actually don’t mind that, in natural mode the throttle’s more predictable than in dynamic, less jumpy when you’re trying to control a slide
@@jp_0118 if u used CC in proxy and enabled the real race mode, with yellow graphics and all, u lose ECU maps in all modes all the time. If u used EC with the traction off dynamic mode (which was supposed to come out from factory) u get to keep ecu maps for all modes until u switch off TC/ESC then u lose them until u restart the car.
Also, I just want to say the mod is very easy to do these days, nothing scary, just a cable and software to buy, and if u buy a new giulia u may need to remove the SGW hacking protection (also easy). My comment was only about a small detail that remains unresolved with this modification.
Who’s this oh wait he was joking
I just looooooove this Giulia....i think it's the most beautiful 4 dr sedan inside & out right now!!
That’s bc it is!
i love alfa romeo, i test drove the stelvio and it was absolutely amazing. Fell in love with the handling and stopping power was awesome. Those paddle shifters are also underrated! Very responsive Tranny too
Yes the steering is delightfully light, friction-free, and precise on the Stelvio, too.
There's cars with better handling, power, and more responsive paddle shifters.
Please don't waste your money on an Alfa, their reliability is among the worst on the car market.
@@TheRealCatof Any examples? Remember that this car costs 50k.
@@user-vd3pu3kx5b Genesis G70/Kia Stinger GT
@@TheRealCatof Holy shit. Hahaha. No..just no bro. Not even close in feel.
I can't stop eyeing these cars...
That opening was awesome 😁👍
Also great to see some more Alfa 😍😍😍
0:00 walk around
6:22 drive/thoughts
13:18 take off
17:31 sound test
18:52 final thoughts
19:50 one last drive.
Thanks 🙏
@@mra4486 Your welcome
5.1 sec 0-60 and 280HP out of a 2 liter engine is more than enough. I'd say anything in the 4 second range and normal people are not able to handle that much power. This car has been my dream car ever since it launched. However, I am Bias and very lucky as my first car was the predecessor to this, the 1994 164 LS. It was like a bat out of hell had a 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and had heated seats IN 1994!! I do believe this car would be the perfect car for most people as most people really don't need an SUV.
I agree the 2.0L is more than fast enough for me. I drove a c43 AMG that goes 0-60 in 4.4 seconds and it was too fast to be fun for me.
Topher thank you for these wonderful videos! The intro was really funny!
Honestly thought an Italian car reviewer was talking and The Topher was replaced for this very video xD
OMG I LOVE THE INTRO!! THANK YOU FOR THE ITALIAN ACCENT! I absolutely love your POV reviews since I can imagine what I would feel like driving the car myself.
So glad you finally got into a 2.0T one! I think this is one of the most underrated cars around. Especially used, you can get a 2018 with the same adaptive dampers and LSD for around 30K. Phenomenal steering and turn in, super balanced, great transmission, and still very comfortable and refined. Fantastic Daily. I would take one over an S3 any day of the week. Simple tune will give you a 12.8 1/4 mile and remove that traction control.
Does a tune make the traction control a toggle?
There’s a reason why used Alfas are cheap. They are gorgeous cars that are a blast to drive but I would be too afraid to own one out of warranty.
@@UnrelatedNonsense I wouldn’t. It’s ridiculously blown out of proportion imo.
@@Kamukix you get the race mode knob from the QV and a tune which gives you the ability to turn of traction control. Also this is holding better value than an A4 or 330i.
@@jjchockey I didn't know that, do you have a link to anything about that? I've down some searching and only see people talking about the battery thing or some other such shenanigans haha.
I love these cars but no TCS off is a deal breaker for me without question.
You only appreciate the handling when you drive it. Best handling machine I ever had in 60 years of driving. It's DNA is Ferrari derived.
That might be the best console i've ever seen. The screen is really well integrated and doesn't stay on top like a chinese tablet. Hope the reliability of the brand has improved too.
i have a my2016 and basically no issues
thumbs up for being able to pronounce "Estrema" correctly!!
Pity "Quadrifoglio" is not
These are used bargains. I picked up a 2020 TI sport Q4 and loved driving it for the few months I had it. Not the quickest out there, but still quite fun. Everything seemed well made. You can pick one of these up just a few years old for a massive deal.
I will pick one up once I get tired of my Mazda3 haha i love the looks of them
yea jus get a intake and tune and ur set
Quickest? Where do You live bro? Are You crazy? In US you can drive only 80. Even in Germany there are speed limits.
@@piotrba2166 he said not the quickest?
@@WhaddupImJohn fellow Mazda 3 owner here (Turbo). This one is on my list as well for the upgrade.
Chris, would love to see you drive a Stelvio 4 cylinder! Bought one a couple years ago and found it to be just amazing, Macan level if not more fun.
The trunk / backseat aren’t as tiny as specs suggest and I found them to be about similar to a Q5 overall - and drives way better.
stelvio....un suv...bleah!
So I’ve had 2 Giulia TI Sports, my first was a 2017 awd car that I got used, not many options besides ti with sport pack. I traded it in at roughly 73k miles for a 2019 5K miles rwd ti sport with the lsd and adaptive dampers and a few more goodies. I live in the northeast and put my car on snow tires and the car does fairly well in the snow. I’ve driven through blizzards at a normal pace for the conditions without issue, if you are mindful that you have a rwd car it’s really not an issue assuming you have the correct tires. One thing to note about the rwd car is that I think they do similar boost by gear to the quadrifoglio, as first and second you definitely don’t have all the torque available, the awd car gives you it all from a dig in first.
As an owner of the sprint trim, I really enjoyed the video and think your review was fair. While there are certainly downsides (tech being the major one), it is just a blast to drive and, at the end of the day, that's my main concern. If you can get your hands on one, I'd love to hear your insights on the Tonale.
Had a Giulia Ti as daily for 3 years, such a joy to drive.
Let me guess, it was too unreliable?
@@TheRealCatof Enough already, dude! You can leave the Alfa Romeo video. I promise, just close the TH-cam window. It will stay closed. Byeee... 👋
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 Crying about criticism won't make Alfa any less unreliable.
@@TheRealCatof I've had mine for 5 years it was extremely reliable, and i drive it harder than anyone, ive redlined it and hit top speed more than i can count, drifted it, raced it everything. The "unreliable" italian car is a myth of the last century, these days american cars have that label ;)
@@TheRealCatofwhy are you in every comment reply section bruh 😅 did you get burned by owning an Italian car at some point or what
Your pronounciation of "estrema" is actually spot on 😂
You either “get” Alfas or you don’t. My cars of choice for 30 years. Current is identical to the one in the review, except, being a European model, it has the old style QV alcantara seats. I love it. The fact that it’s the best looking saloon in it’s segment by a margin is a bonus.
I leased a 2021 Alfa Giulia Ti Sport earlier this year. It is blue with the black out package and white leather. I call her Azula (if you're a fan of the last airbender, it makes sense). I have been wanting to do a review on the car for a while now, because these cars are SO misunderstood. I have 10K miles on my car now, and have not had any issues with it at all (fingers crossed). If I was to describe the car in one word it would be: Perfect.
The car has its fair share of issues, but the pros out weight the cons. For example my cons are: Key fab is WAY to big, I wish there was more center console storage, and I find the alfa infotainment to be very slow and non-responsive some times. But, somehow, I completely forget about all of these issues when I turn the car on and drive. The driving dynamics and the performance are absolutely incredible. As I mentioned above: Perfect. It is not over powered and it is not under powered. I never feel like I am out of control or the car is driving me; I am driving the car and the car responds to me. It is absolutely gorgeous and stunning to look at. One of my favorite aspects of owning the car is that very few people know what it is and the compliments are just incredible.
To end my comment here: I was spiritedly driving along with a 5.0 mustang in N mode and kept up with him at a speed that is in the three digits and after we slowed down and regrouped he rolls his window down and says, "I had no idea those things were that quick". Yessir it is, and it has half your cylinders and and 200 less horsepower, I'm glad you noticed.
These cars look so much better in person. Gorgeous car and stylish as can, it's what you'd expect out of an Italian vehicle.
finally! you need to review more alfa romeo!
I've got already 9000 km on my new Estrema, awesome car, no issues yet. Can't wait to test out the AWD in the snow! The only thing that anoys me is that there isn't an auto hold function for the handbrake. And in europe we unfortunately have just cars with an OPF, the car hast almost no exhaust sound at all.
Pretty there is for the auto handbrake in the settings.....when you switch to parking mode, the handbrake light will automatically on.
default setting it's for auto parking brake, annoyed me so i turn off in the infotaiment since most time i dont use parking brake at all
The Veloce should get more attention seriously amazing car
Loved the intro! Definitely fooled me into thinking you were an Alfa marketing person.
Funny i just purchased this same exact car Friday and i love it. Just a different exterior color but definitely a beautiful car.
Worth it. Seems to match the hype. I'm all for the analog gauges. Looks like a proper car, not like a bunch of tablets giving info like too many cars today. Cars are about chassis engineering and this type of car, revs to performance. I'm not sure an BEV Alfa would work. I guess they'll go that way in time so let's enjoy this car while we can.
I've got this car but 2018. It lives up to the hype. Fun to drive, and absolutely an incredible chassis. I don't plan to sell mine ever. It's a special car even with the 2.0
@@mikeshort4061 that’s great these get shit on for being “unreliable” but I don’t really ever see anyone complain in ownership
@@mikeshort4061what does it mean by chassis? Also how is the car reliability ?
@@JitinMisra in the case of the Giulia it has a lightweight body and it's stiff. Even weight distribution as well means that the car is very controlled and precise as far as handling
In terms of reliability, 2019+ is great since they worked out the bugs. Overall I would peg reliability the same as other euros like BMW, Audi. Outside of some warranty work I haven't had any problems
So underrated! Please, who has enough money to buy a car like this, and likes to drive drive, buy this car! Don't let Alfa die
I couldn't have said it better ! 🍀
Trust me. I would be f I could. ❤️
So glad you did one of these. I've long been considering a Guilia but I too live in Michigan and haven't seen you or another channel I frequent do the AWD 4 Cyl. Granted i'd be looking for a Ti Sport or Veloce, something used, but it's the same engine and trans as this so im super glad you reviewed one.
I love the AR Giulia, but a few points. 2.0L redline: 5.5K (low). Estrema pricing now closely approaching BMW 340 I-6 range and down by 100 HP! That will be a very tough sell and even many Alfa owners agree. ie AR priced the Guilia out of the market (not enough power for this level of pricing - needed an engine slotted in between this & QV or kept the price down). Hence, Giulia 2.0 will not be continuing after MY2023 afaik. Sad, but true.
Don’t know where you’re from but in Germany a new 340 is 75k euros and the Giulia estrema cost between 52k and 56k. Nearly 20k difference.
A similarly equipped m340i is $10 grand more expensive and if you buy a Giulia at the end of the model year you can get one for $20 grand less than a similarly equipped the m340i.
BMW may have more power, but it's also like 150 kgs heavier...
Certainly this has been said before, but as soon as I heard his voice, it sounded like Mark from Savageese!
Beautiful car and nice review.
My '17 was beautiful, but this '23 has it beat by faaaaaaar!
Wish they just gave it more boost pressure, around 350 hp would have been perfect.
Might be able to find a chip to up the boost by 2 or so lbs
To be honest I still like to good old look and feel of the Alfa Romeo’s interior comparing to all the new gen BMW and Benz, which using flat digital screen.
You questioned the all weather ability of the giulia, after the cold winter we've had in the UK I can tell you it's pretty damn good 🤣
Great review. By the way, "A"mode is actually called "Advanced Efficiency Mode"
it annoys the hell out of me how many people on TH-cam get this wrong. like wtf.
This car has probably the BIGGEST Paddle Shifters I’ve ever seen. I was a little disappointed with the engine sound, doesn’t sound as good as the Stelvio SUV you drove, but the Pros of this car out-weigh the Cons by a lot ;)!
Recently I committed the ultimate sin of being in Milan and NOT visiting the Alfa Romeo museum. 😑
🤔🤨😥
I definitely agree with the lightweight feel. It felt really nimble
Really hoping you hop in the 2024 models when they drop next year. Would love to see what the model refresh is like!
What models? Giulia will be produced only with 100% elecrtic engines. That new one will be aviable only with elecrtric eng.
2024 modes get new headlights and a digital dash. Electrification starts in 2025 over in Europe, which means 2026 here in the States
Bellissima automobile !! Complimenti !!
so excited, i just bought a veloce a few days ago. just waiting to go pick it up now!
If only there was an Alfa dealer nearby! The brake by wire may take some time to get use to, but not a deal breaker.
Topher is a pro! Always produces excellent videos
The only way to bridge the gap is to add a mid ~350Hp engine trime, between 280Hp and 505Hp, and price it around 60K base.
Topher I love you and your videos! I literally watch everything you upload man. Quick question, will you buy another Lexus Gx anytime soon?
Thanks for the support, appreciate it man! I'd love to get another GX sometime, but don't have the space or need for it right now with our Highlander Hybrid in the garage. Someday I might try to pick up a used 2022 or 2023 with the updated carplay, that'd be the one to get!
The intro got me good
Hard to focus on the car when you’re wearing that beautiful speed master 😂
intro really caught me off guard lmao
Fantastic car...I love alfa romeo giulia ❤️❤️
Thought I was on Marchettino's channel for a sec. Ciao ragazzi!
The gap was exactly the same.
The Estrema was just a configuration trim just like the Sprint, TI or Veloce
I’ve always liked these. Looked at several pre-covid and they had them marked down to high 20’s, low 30’s depending on equipment. Fast forward to today and no chance getting one under $45k. Sad times, indeed.
I see plenty used under 30k, even 2019 models
@@shiikon2193 to clarify the prices I stated are for new, not used.
Wooooooow that a beautiful car!!!!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Would be nice to see a Giulia Estrema vs Elantra N in a drag race
I love how that pothole at 17:36 has just gotten worse and worse over time. Gotta love Michigan roads
How is the Harmon Cardon? I ve heard it isnt as good as the BMW's soundsystem? I dont noticed any speakers either so it might be true.
Its much better than in the BMW. According to a german youtube channel that compared these cars.
The only annoying thing is every new model "Bridged the gap" between the 2L and the Quad... but they keep forgetting to do the bridging part by adding any more power. I love my 2018, and wish they were tempting me to buy a new one. Bump the power a bit and offer a Manual transmission in the Ti Q4 and they'd have me emptying my wallet for them.
Agreed. I would have loved to see a version with 300+ horsepower, let's say 330 - 350. And also a version with a v8 would not displease me 😅
This kind of deep, saturated red ("Rosso Alfa") is amazing.
I have seen a lot more alphas and Maseratis on the road the last 2 years. Is it because of the chip shortage and the overall problem in the car market, that these things that were previously slow sellers are selling much better now? Or is it just my perception and nothing has changed?
I’m hearing the Maseratis are much better from the 2018+ model years. A local dealer won’t take any Maserati on trade before MY 2018. Alfa from what i can gather is better from MY 2020+
I test drove a 2017 giulia quadrifoglio while I was shopping for cars a couple months back - the car was a riot to drive, but I was reeeeally disappointed with the quality of the plastics on the interior. They felt cheap, the scroll wheel felt really wobbly, and the infotainment was horrible to use. The infotainment looks much better now, but I'd be curious to know how you think the interior quality has perhaps changed or stayed the same over the last few years! Thanks for another amazing review.
Those things are not why you buy an Alfa.
shit is all plastic feels fake and cheap
the materials used in the 2020+ models are major upgrades. had a 2018 ti sport for a bit couple years back but right now, got a 2020 ti sport carbon, noticed the difference in feel and quality the second i got in it.
@@sunnysaenngarm5375 nice! that's really good to know. I ended up buying an RS3 but that Alfa was a really special car, I just felt that it was held back in a big way from an everyday usability standpoint.
@@frumpd63 understandable, but this is not a 4c we're talking about. If everything worked out, I would be in one of those right now. However, a Giulia is very different in its market because it was not built to be just a driving machine. You're not just buying an Alfa, you're buying a family sedan: it's meant to be daily driven, and things like poor material and build quality and subpar UI hold it back from fulfilling that need better than other cars can. I didn't expect anything ridiculously fancy, but a lot of the switchgear felt borderline cheap to me which is inexcusable in a car as expensive as a giulia quadrifoglio.
When you push the car, none of that matters. It's an amazing driving experience. But what people with your viewpoint fail to realize is that a sedan needs to also be a place where you can spend your mundane everyday commute, and the issues I listed got very irritating very quickly and I don't think that's a car I would have liked to drive in everyday. For example, I'm a big music person and it was so difficult for me to figure out how to even pair my phone to the car and then once it was paired, I had no idea how to get to a menu where I could listen to my music. Stuff like that shouldn't be that difficult.
What a great car! The best sedan!
Alfa Romeo Giulia 😍
if only they made a true competitor to the m340i, c43, s4. using a detuned/modified version of the qv v6
detuning that ferrari engine should be a crime, I say leave it alone lol
I drove a c43 AMG and it was too fast to be fun on public roads for me. IMO the 2.0L is the sweet spot. Good fuel economy, lower maintenance costs, and a blast to rev out.
this car is a 😍 dream
Hey man, great review. What tyres are in the back? 225/40/r19 or 255? Cheers
I've never seen a dual sun ruff before that's pretty cool
You can turn off TC by disconecting the battery and going into some dyno mode or just installing the race mode dna switch from the quadrofoglio, but yeah I agree that It should have it as standard like the tonale
Very nice review. I just wish they didn’t depreciate so fast (as compared to Porsche). Thanks.
There is a reason for that. Very low built quality. No one wants them. In short, Alfa is j junk. Stay away. Look into Germans. BMW, MB and Audi. These are way better.
@@sunshadow9704 But German cars are so boring compared to Italian cars (more beautiful) or French cars (more delightfully weird)! Whereas if you wanted best quality control of manufacturing you'd just get the Lexus or Acura.
@@TassieLorenzo boring? Hmmmm. Well, to each his own.
There isn’t anything boring in German vehicles.
Pure joy of driving.
@@sunshadow9704 "Pure joy of driving." Steve Sutcliffe track test: th-cam.com/video/mtpwWylnt84/w-d-xo.html Audi S3: "Oh dear, so much understeer. It's not pleasant." (doesn't sound like the driver is finding much joy!) Meanwhile, the Civic Type R: "Wow, wow, wow. This car is so capable and so brilliant."
@@TassieLorenzo unlike you , I have my own opinion. Well, to each his own.
I need to drive one of these to see what everyone keeps saying.
I have a 2020 Mazda CX-30 with some modifications and it’s fun to drive BUT super reliable and great on gas.
Lol so the alpha would have to do significantly better.
Which one is the most sporty fun with features for an affordable price. I’m looking to definitely get it.
Beautiful car.
best italy design and quality 😊
How comfortable is the access (entering and exiting) for a tall person (1.87m)?
Guys what are the discounts on the 2023 models, especially the Sprint base model that you can get from Dealer?
I got a 2022 veloce with 40 miles for $18k off MSRP (in August of 2023). Couldn’t pass up the car at that price.
I dunno if I'm just, not the target demographic. But I don't see how this "bridges the gap between the QV and the regular Guilia", with the same 2.0T 4Cyl as the rest of the lineup. I'd rather have a 3.3t V6 G70 over this, even though it looks gorgeous.
Some lame asain ricer? No thanks 😂
Even in 2022, the window switches still look like they're straight from the FCA/Stellantis parts bin
Modern age my friend, just like a Lamborghini Urus has the same window switches as a VW Golf.... 🤔
It would be awesome if they offered a two door coupe version of this.
Absolutely. A real coup with frameless doors.
Love those paddle shifters, the touch screen could be a bit more responsive though
This the stringer are my top fav rn
Hey man make more test of stability corner turns or start 0-60 if is spin show more of sound out side or any tunnel and how handle full throttle see how spin vs water vs good road then we can see different of car.
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Nice review! Giulia has been one of the few cars I really lust after in the sport sedan segment of the market. What say you between this and the TLX Type S considering they're really close in price point?
I have the same dilemma. What did you decide?
I’ve had the Ti Sport and the veloce
With the Estrema being the “bridge” between the veloce and QV, I am extremely getting annoyed with alfa not making an actual in between in terms of power such as with the BMW 330i and 340i
Alfa seriously needs to make something in between in terms of power not just more BS with “more carbon” etc
can you make a video of your favorites -- like elantra n vs this? g70 vs stinger? --- all i car about is steering feel because everything is NUMB any cars that actually have steering feel anymore? (not just good weighting)
How's the reliability and dealer/service network? Looks and performs very well for the price
i have a my2016 and no issues at all, just keep pluged the battery if i dont use the car regularly because low battery charge (but perfectly enought for starting the engine) disabled the rear windows defroster, so i figured out was the low battery charge and indeed it was, after a overnight charge, worked again.
other electrical issues are related to the 6 relé behind the front bumper, some oxidation can cause few seconds of car shutting down, but replacing them solve the issues.
I have a 2019 Guilia and my lease is ending soon. I got excited after you said this was between the veloce and the Quad, hoping they increased the power a little. I love the car but not enough changes for me to stay with the brand.
The 2nd gen is expected for 2024my. What else are you looking at?
@@Kris-xs7kc unfortunately I can’t wait that long. I’m looking at the g70, stinger, or a CT5 if I can find one at the right price. The 4 banger in the Guilia is quick but lacks the sound to go with it. I. Also kinda want something with more cargo space.
@@bossie006 the stinger is a good pick, especially with their warranty set up
The Estrema is the trim to buy for anyone who wants something new. It's as close to a QV as you can get without the huge maintenance and insurance costs.
My 2018 Ti Sport Q4 is pretty much an Estrema on steroids as I've got a big aftermarket turbo, catless downpipe, aFe exhaust, and almost every add on package Alfa offered including the adaptive suspension and LSD.
Who tuned your car for the turbo.
@@jay12345ist Multi Air Tuning and Development
How do your like your aFe exhaust and which version did you buy?
@@andynickles7505 I have the Axel back version with no muffler. I'm still running the stock mid pipe with the resonator to keep the highway drone down. It's a pretty good sounding combination with the cat less downpipe.
Lexus RX 2023 impressions?
Cool
I was always curious about this one!
Have atualization of transmission 6 speed manual?
From a driving dynamics perspective, how does this compare to the rwd BMW 230i?
i would say it's better, better stability and nice precision.
not because bmw it's bad but because with giulia you get stability and steadiness from a larger car but you still had very nimble handling and low weight (for the size)
btw i own a giulia and i have been a passenger few times on the previous 2 series coupe
In this market, there's nothing better for your dollar. It's sad to see, but Alfa Romeo has done a poor job advertising/selling these vehicles, and now there's 10-20 base Giulias on every Alfa dealer lot.
2022 Ti and Sprint trims seem to regularly be hugely discounted on lease deals. I'm talking a 7K difference to lease an equivalently specced 3 series. The base 2 trims don't have a LSD option, but you can walk OTD with a Sprint AWD for 24K (taxes, fees included) over 42 months.
In this market where dealers will ask you to pay that for a Civic Hatchback EX-L... it's a no brainer.
What's the point of LSD if you cant turn off the traction control?
I ♥ those wheels!