thank you for covering this case. I am Indonesian and I used to work in Jalan Setiabudi around the building where the case happened. even until now, people in the area are still talking about this case. I read Dr. Mun'im Idris's book ; Indonesia's X-files volume 1 where he specifically wrote Setiabudi Case as one of the most highlighted cases in his career and he also regrets that he couldnt resolve the case. he also wrote that the person who did the crime, somewhat had some medical knowledge or at least knowledge on human body as he or she made such a clean and precise cut on the body.
Hi, I am an Indonesian too. Few years ago I often visited the RSCM for work and the people areound there told me that those bones were likely the bones of the criminals and gangsters/thugs (preman) that escaped the punishment from the law. So the government (aka Soeharto regiment) actually created a special force to annihilate those thugs secretly. This also happens to those people who were opposing the governments. I am not sure whether this is true or not but they say that during the 80s, they often see dead bodies suddenly discovered in the early mornings around those areas and usually those bodies belong to thugs or people with political interests.
@@daisydove3336 yeah, I admit it. During Suharto regime, there are many secret police action that aim gang members and criminals, sometimes they shoot wrong targets because has same tattoo or piercing.
@@Frooooooo i think what you meant is the Petrus killing, i dont think this one is related to it. From dr. Mun'im's books, it is said that the victim of setiabudi 13 has no tattoo which was one of the main characters of the petrus killings (all petrus victims have tattoes). While petrus killing victims were indeed thrown away in sacks on the roadside, they were intact (no mutilation) and has gunshot wound in their heads as warning to other thugs and outlaws to behave or beware. In his book, Indonesia's X-file, Dr. Mun'im clearly stated that setiabudi 13 wasnt one of the petrus victims.
I am thinking about those killers who were walking free for years after doing this crime. The fact that they were still out free living a normal life gives me chill.
I feel like “medical knowledge” is an extremely dangerous thing to assume in a case like this, because it can lead to tunnel vision extremely quickly. Mostly because when I heard the description of this man’s remains, I didn’t think surgeon - I thought butcher. And a professional butcher would definitely have the ability to single-handedly dismantle a body in a couple hours without damaging the internal organs or leaving anything on the bones, AND hide the evidence of it. This sort of thing could even explain how the boxes were left so discreetly (if, say, from some sort of delivery vehicle) and possibly why no one seemed to know the victim (if he was poor/lower class or only recently moved to the area) and why no similar crime was ever reported (if this was a crime of passion of some kind, followed by not a mutilation, but a disposal). I wonder if some sort of line of thinking like that got overlooked by the original investigators, and that was a part of the reason this poor man never got justice, or even his name back.
Yup i thing also are butcler who do this crime. But mostly physicopath evolve their method but why stop? Are they death? Or in jail because another crime? Or some agent killed them? I remember, in Indonesia ever have mysterius killer who kiling many member gangster. Some said he is a agent because that time in Indonesia, have too many crime by gangster.
Animals and humans have different anatomies. I could butcher a chicken in a minute, but I know almost nothing about the human body. Different object require different set of tools and skills to work with. It could be a butcher, but one with medical knowledge specifically.
If the forensic doctors suspected that the crime was carried out by someone who was skilled in carrying out such medical procedures , police should have also looked into people in this area of expertise.Also all the evidence led to the area where the remains were found then the police should have also looked into it's residences.
or they did, but found no one. I mean, the police and public took the doctors idea seriously, and the case was huge even after decades. pretty sure even if the police did nothing, the residents near the area would report it if their neighbors were skilled in that. anyway, it's a business district, so there wasn't many house residents, and it's in the 80s, apartments buildings or that kind of residential buildings were little to none in Indonesia yet.
@@takenononsense yep. In the 80's, apartment building and similiar type of building is a very rare sight in indonesia. That time indonesian still live in a ground level house. Apartment and stacked residential become popular in the 90's
still not enough clue to make a breakthrough. If we're going to investigate people with expertise skill to remove flesh from bone, i guess we should ask every meat butchers and every surgical doctors.
there's actually some details and theories missing on this case and very hard to find on the news. 1. The police never revealed the suspected ethnicity of the victim. Back then, there was actually a theory that the victim wasnt Indonesian at all. But a vietnamese refugee, that's why it was really hard to find the identity of the victim 2. 1981-1982 was Indonesia's political year. at the time, some people raise the issue of PKI's (Indonesian Communist Party) resurgence and its affiliation with current president Soeharto. The case was theorized to spark this issue. However, it was deemed a failure. Soeharto was too powerful and very capable to shutdown the issue 3. the perpetrator was theorized to have been found and caught but wasnt given any civil trial at all, but directly executed. I got those theories above from my late apartment manager. He was lived in Setiabudi area for over 60 years. And during the case, he was a security guard in one of the building near the Garuda Mataram building.
Theory 3: he was indonesian but from another city. Given how big the country is and how big jakarta itself is, it’s no surprise that this theory should be considered
@@hoisdisguy7400 In the 80's, police and military forces are not seperated just like today, but united as ABRI (Angkatan Bersenjata Republik Indonesia, or Armed Forces of Indonesian Republic) and under Soeharto's regime it basically at it's peak and very powerful. FYI, at the time, some of South East Asian countries (golden triangle area), which is the area sorrounding Burma/Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, basically become the centre of drug production and trafficking. There's theory that it's related to CIA psyops in SEA (after Vietnam war), you know, just like CIA planted General Noriega in Panama, and many South American countries (you can google the book about it, the tittle is 'Our Man in Panama). Which is also happened in Afghanistan (Afghanistan poppy fields) for the last 20 years after Iraq war. Same modus operandi. So, this why a lot of people having theory that this case probably part of Soeharto's special force operation, a.k.a PETRUS (short of 'Penembak Misterius' or Mysterious Shooter) who's targeting the drug dealers, thugs, gangsters. The drug cartels is highly suspected sponsored by you-know-who, to sabotage Indonesia and other South East Asian countries national stability. Actually, this is also one of the main reason that later on many countries of SEA approved death penalty law to against drug dealers or anyone related to drug cartels. You can watch Lee Kuan Yew (former Singapore Prime Minister) interview with BBC, and his explanation of death penalty for drug trafficker in Singapore. But in Indonesia in the 80's, it's the era of infamous PETRUS (mysterious shooter), Soeharto's allegedly assasins. And this case, and how the victim's body was placed in the centre of the city, probably like somekind of statement, from The Smiling General (Soeharto) to the drug traffickers to gtfo? Or middle finger to CIA? Who knows.
Sadly it will likely never happen. Why? Because Indonesia police doesnt have good track record in solving cold case. Especially murder case that already past its 18 years expiration date.
your channel is my favorite true crime channel. thank you so much for covering the unknown cases and letting them be known to a larger audience! you're an amazing storyteller.
i find it rly sad but also weird that no person came forward to identify this man... he was pretty young so even if his family was dead or smth didnt he at least have a friend or some classmates from school that would at least recognize him? it's rly unfortunate that his brutal murder couldnt be solved so that justice can be served...
@@akut4gawa yes and the more mind blowing facts. The killer kept this man's face, fingers and toes, intact and clean. it's like the killer challenged the police to be able to solve this case. Police looking for his fingerprints and couldn't find the victim's fingerprints in the database
In 1981 Indonesia, reporting a missing person to the police wasn't a common thing to do. On top of that, the sketch of that victim's face couldn't get enough exposure. A TV set was a luxury for most Indonesians. On some occasions, the entire town would gather in the town hall to watch a football match because that's the only place one could find a TV set. Newspapers are quite the same. The biggest newspaper at that time only send out around 1 million-ish to circulation everyday, while the total national population was over 100 million people, spread on thousands of separate islands. The logistics challenges alone would make a newspaper so expensive and so late in smaller populated islands.
as an avid true crime enthusiast, i really love your way of narration, it keeps the listener engaged. Cant wait for more uploads from you❤️ love from india 🇮🇳 🫶🏻
There was a theory that mentioned that the murder motive was to give warning to some "special" group and that the person that was murdered was a mafia because there is no way there is no people that knew him
@@radyza6909 yup, that's why When people wear shirt with "my era is better" with his face is dumb, infact Soeharto have personal gunmen not related to police or military and i know this because one of my relative are one
The interesting thing about Indonesia before '98 is, people would always connect every cold case to Soeharto in some way. It's either he's getting rid of criminals through the (rumored) infamous Penembak Misterius (mysterious "gunman") operation, or the killer was somehow backed up by him or his cronies. And you couldn't deny the possibility because he's just that terrifyingly powerful.
one thing to remember is that during the 1980s indonesia was still a dictatorship so crime was often hidden covered up like in other dictatorships of the era. the police were not trustworthy and were often deeply corrupt.
I just found this channel, better late than never. In the midst of other youtube channels ignorantly talking and mutilated the humane aspect on true life crime cases, Megan deliver each case with honesty, its refreshing.
I've always detested how Americanized true crime is as a genre on the internet, I very much appreciate you and your channel for your masterful delivery of cases that would have likely otherwise remained unknown to the general North American public❤
why detest? No one's stopping anyone from diving into international true crime. I personally suspect: 1) There's already a ton of crime to go over in the US alone 2) A lot of American hosts feel more comfortable covering crime in a country they're culturally and socially familiar with
It's also easier to do research for north american crime because of the language, most people learn english as their second language. Unless an international case get famous, it's hard to do research in foreign language. It automatically limit your access to reseach materials too.
@@jac1207 @Basement_Trickster i don't hate american true crime lmao i just don't like how true crime as a genre is often american-only, that's all! that's fair ^^
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Nice one .. The way the perpetrators placed two boxes of cardboard in an office building in Setiabudi, a busy area and was guarded by many security personnel without being detected in the slightest, shows something odd. the people around the office building where the mutilation victim was found really didn't know or didn't dare to talk.
Ah yes, the infamous Setiabudi 13 case. Indonesian here, and honestly, if there is a case happen like this here and no one comes forward to identify the victim, it would be hard to identify the remains because dental record that could be used is hard to obtain / doesn't even exist in the first place due to the lack of people who would go to the dentist or even the datas didn't stored well.
megan you have my respect, as an Indonesian I know it was hard to collect information and make it as a story like this. thankyou Megan for your hardwork
While listening to this story, a thought came to mind that the murdered poor young man must have people who knew him but for some reasons forced to be silent for the rest of their lives. I am thinking, family.. Inheritance and the hiring of assassination and getting rid of evidence. Just sharing my thoughts. Again, most of us can only speculate. Another great report Megan. We'll done. PS: Hoping you can cover the update of this case in the near future.. As being "Solved".
This murder is not some random murder,this might be part of a serial murder or must be a murder that was committed to seek attention i mean maybe this was a murder showing what would happen to the people who disrespect or betray the murderers ,these guys must be a mafia or something. Maybe a warning to the companies that is located on the nearby buildings. With the height and weight of that person maybe we can say assume that he is poor malnutritioned, . Rent owner or the electricity board staff must know the killer cause water charge must be high for the murderer
hi at 8:30 to 8:35 you're using a recent image of one of Indonesia's governors, Ridwan Kamil. In that distressing image, he is being comforted after finding his son's body in the Aare river in Switzerland back in 2022. Although, u may think the image fits the "energy" of the video, i believe it is unwise & quite insensitive to use this image on such a gruesome case. I think it's best if you change the image to something else related to the Setiabudi 13 case. Thank you!
your channel is one my favourites when it comes to crimes. its also really nice to see asian crime stories when literally everywhere people are always talking about the absurd stories of the west. there is a really disturbing case that took place in India. it is called the Kolkata House of Horrors. it is one of the most bizarre cases ever and i hope you would do a video on it
This happened during the leadership of the 2nd president who led like a dictator (1966-1998). He has a mysterious gunner/snipper division under him to get rid unwanted people secretly and they often leave the victim in an open area, maybe that's why commoners don't get really curious about a case like this.
It's very odd that they could never identify him. And really sad too tbh To die such a horrible death and not even able to be laid to rest by his loved ones is such a layered tragedy.
i like her voice and the way she deliver herself, i usually listen to her cases while i paint. listening to this real life cases makes me realize im so lucky im in safe place. danger is everywhere
I really love your content! If you have time, pls cover another Indonesian story cuz there's many more unsolved tragic murders that people here don't want to cover 😢
Theres another most recent cold case from Indonesia called Subang murders from 2021. Mother-daughter found dead in their car in a state of undress and the murderer left no trace of dna or any evidence at all. Up to 120s witnesses were questioned but nothing come out of it.
@@54living well thats what most people speculated but officially from the investigation no arrest has been made only some individual back in 2022 arrested but has been released after further investigation so it is somewhat a cold case even though officials are refusing to say so
Hey Megan..... first of all BIG FAN of you and your channel......I saw your previous post....I sadly couldn't give you much information about the crimes in my country..... that's why I decided to support you..... always be there for you and the channel..... And so grateful to you.... because these days it's easier to get to know the culture and history of any country we stumble upon.....but I believe it's difficult to learn about the criminal history and judicial system of any country....... So big THANKS to you for showcasing these crimes.... Always support and love you..... FIGHTING!!! 🥰
Thx for your content as always ❤️ Can you please talk about the Chinese Corpse Dungeon (Serial Killer Jia Wenge) case. There is almost no info about this horrific case and all articles are only in Chinese. Maybe you have the source to cover this case with your team. That would be awesome
You have the voice, cadence, and enunciation that news anchors and documentary narrators would die for. It's very soothing. I appreciate the way you tell these victims stories. Thank you for covering cases many in the Americas and 'western' countries don't hear about. These victims deserve to have their stories told and to help drive awareness and change.
oh wow, even i am jakartan didn't know if there is a criminal case still hasn't unsolved in my hometown until now, i felt shocked after watching a whole the video and the polices still don't know who's culprit did this. but thank you, you shared a video about one of indonesia's infamous cold cases on your channel and also hopefully this case will solve as soon as possible :)
Nothing just leaving my broom in the middle of the house and pausing a kdrama just o watch crime stories. Btw u r amazing u r way of explaining is amazing
The Setiabudi 13 case was not the first mutilation case in Indonesia, but it was the first such case widely known for its brutality, and also the eye opener to the public that such crimes existed.
this was done during soeharto's regime right? my mom told me it was horrifying time because of all the mysterious sh00ting (petrus killings). she even talk about how one of her neighbor tried to remove their own tattoo to avoid becoming a victim using an iron
Miss Megan, I am honestly addicted of your true crime channel.😍❤️ Thank you for covering those cases that we've never seen before.. Looking forward for more interesting crimes cases.. More power to your channel..☺️❤️
Your channel has to be my favourite true crime channel. It's always been an interest of mine to travel across Asia, particularly South Korea, but it's also important to know about such things as nowhere in this world is 100% safe. Cold cases must be so haunting to those who worked on them and the families who have lost a loved one with their cases unsolved. I hope the souls of cold cases have been able to move on from this world and not be stuck in misery, never seeing justice for their death.
You are so self composed Megan to speak all this brutality with a straight face ! You deserve so much of respect hope your channel grow faster and you shine :)
Thank you for sharing these stories. It is truly horrifying to learn what one man can do to another. Humans are the scariest thing in the world. Hopefully someday this case may be solved and the poor soul gets the justice he deserves.
I love your videos so much. especially with you touching crime cases from around Asia it is great to see somebody is covering such cases in the Asia region. many thanks and love from Singapore!!!!!
I always look forward to watching your videos, Megan. Just like others, I'm also an avid fan of true crime. Each episode puzzles me on how humans can be so cruel. Fortunately, kind-hearted people still outnumber the evil ones.
crazy how i pretty much have lived in Jakarta my whole life, and at same point worked near where the boxes were found yet I have never heard of this story before! damn this is sad
Tq so much for covering horrible case..i hope one day u will also cover some Nepal unsolve n horrible case..Anyway tq so much sis for letting us known what's happend.
This is my first time watching your video. Great intro, and as soon as i see you with those background, caption/subtitle, exquisite word by word knit and also speaks with such elegant and distinct. Definitely deserve a sub. God bless you and thank you
I really appreciate you for doing a deeper research for pictures that quite depict the 'real' condition in countries or places you tell about.. As an Indonesian, I'm quite surprised you showed that bathroom picture, so authentic
Wow it's amazing to see you have a video channel now. Thank you so much for covering cases with other asian countries. I'll also look forward for Philippines cases sooner.
challenge the police? it could also be that they killed that guy, made sure the face was intact for identification, to threaten someone else. like a rival group or syndicate, or individual that might do something against them so they were sending a message to that person not to do something cute or else...
I have so many questions. But like everyone else, I hope whoever murdered the victim did not commit another gruesome act again. I'm grateful and appreciative of your and your team's efforts. You all deserve more recognition and a wider audience. Thank you, Megan! :)
thank you for covering this case. I am Indonesian and I used to work in Jalan Setiabudi around the building where the case happened. even until now, people in the area are still talking about this case. I read Dr. Mun'im Idris's book ; Indonesia's X-files volume 1 where he specifically wrote Setiabudi Case as one of the most highlighted cases in his career and he also regrets that he couldnt resolve the case. he also wrote that the person who did the crime, somewhat had some medical knowledge or at least knowledge on human body as he or she made such a clean and precise cut on the body.
Hi, I am an Indonesian too. Few years ago I often visited the RSCM for work and the people areound there told me that those bones were likely the bones of the criminals and gangsters/thugs (preman) that escaped the punishment from the law. So the government (aka Soeharto regiment) actually created a special force to annihilate those thugs secretly. This also happens to those people who were opposing the governments. I am not sure whether this is true or not but they say that during the 80s, they often see dead bodies suddenly discovered in the early mornings around those areas and usually those bodies belong to thugs or people with political interests.
@@Frooooooowow thats something new! This is indeed an intriguing unsolved case.
@@daisydove3336 yeah, I admit it. During Suharto regime, there are many secret police action that aim gang members and criminals, sometimes they shoot wrong targets because has same tattoo or piercing.
@@Frooooooo i think what you meant is the Petrus killing, i dont think this one is related to it. From dr. Mun'im's books, it is said that the victim of setiabudi 13 has no tattoo which was one of the main characters of the petrus killings (all petrus victims have tattoes). While petrus killing victims were indeed thrown away in sacks on the roadside, they were intact (no mutilation) and has gunshot wound in their heads as warning to other thugs and outlaws to behave or beware. In his book, Indonesia's X-file, Dr. Mun'im clearly stated that setiabudi 13 wasnt one of the petrus victims.
@@coffeesweet1 ah I see. Thanks for your explanation
I am thinking about those killers who were walking free for years after doing this crime. The fact that they were still out free living a normal life gives me chill.
They even maybe watch this channel. Maybe in their 60-70 🤔
They're probably already old
They're probably either super old or dead or even arrested for different reasonings
@@nyes4596 or even hold a throne in a governmental position 🙃
@@muhammadrayhansatria2699 ??
I feel like “medical knowledge” is an extremely dangerous thing to assume in a case like this, because it can lead to tunnel vision extremely quickly. Mostly because when I heard the description of this man’s remains, I didn’t think surgeon - I thought butcher. And a professional butcher would definitely have the ability to single-handedly dismantle a body in a couple hours without damaging the internal organs or leaving anything on the bones, AND hide the evidence of it. This sort of thing could even explain how the boxes were left so discreetly (if, say, from some sort of delivery vehicle) and possibly why no one seemed to know the victim (if he was poor/lower class or only recently moved to the area) and why no similar crime was ever reported (if this was a crime of passion of some kind, followed by not a mutilation, but a disposal).
I wonder if some sort of line of thinking like that got overlooked by the original investigators, and that was a part of the reason this poor man never got justice, or even his name back.
Perhaps, a gang that included with a butcher. Some people may know them but dare not to open their mouth.
@@54livingagree. Perhaps some people knew the truth but remain silent to keep themselves alive
Yup i thing also are butcler who do this crime. But mostly physicopath evolve their method but why stop? Are they death? Or in jail because another crime? Or some agent killed them?
I remember, in Indonesia ever have mysterius killer who kiling many member gangster. Some said he is a agent because that time in Indonesia, have too many crime by gangster.
yeah i think so. Maybe it's related to some gang war
Animals and humans have different anatomies. I could butcher a chicken in a minute, but I know almost nothing about the human body.
Different object require different set of tools and skills to work with.
It could be a butcher, but one with medical knowledge specifically.
If the forensic doctors suspected that the crime was carried out by someone who was skilled in carrying out such medical procedures , police should have also looked into people in this area of expertise.Also all the evidence led to the area where the remains were found then the police should have also looked into it's residences.
or they did, but found no one. I mean, the police and public took the doctors idea seriously, and the case was huge even after decades. pretty sure even if the police did nothing, the residents near the area would report it if their neighbors were skilled in that. anyway, it's a business district, so there wasn't many house residents, and it's in the 80s, apartments buildings or that kind of residential buildings were little to none in Indonesia yet.
@@takenononsense yep. In the 80's, apartment building and similiar type of building is a very rare sight in indonesia. That time indonesian still live in a ground level house. Apartment and stacked residential become popular in the 90's
still not enough clue to make a breakthrough. If we're going to investigate people with expertise skill to remove flesh from bone, i guess we should ask every meat butchers and every surgical doctors.
It wasn't a butcher@@KoeSeer
They are lazy and indeed incompetent
there's actually some details and theories missing on this case and very hard to find on the news.
1. The police never revealed the suspected ethnicity of the victim. Back then, there was actually a theory that the victim wasnt Indonesian at all. But a vietnamese refugee, that's why it was really hard to find the identity of the victim
2. 1981-1982 was Indonesia's political year. at the time, some people raise the issue of PKI's (Indonesian Communist Party) resurgence and its affiliation with current president Soeharto. The case was theorized to spark this issue. However, it was deemed a failure. Soeharto was too powerful and very capable to shutdown the issue
3. the perpetrator was theorized to have been found and caught but wasnt given any civil trial at all, but directly executed.
I got those theories above from my late apartment manager. He was lived in Setiabudi area for over 60 years. And during the case, he was a security guard in one of the building near the Garuda Mataram building.
Theory 3: he was indonesian but from another city. Given how big the country is and how big jakarta itself is, it’s no surprise that this theory should be considered
Theory 5: it's still in the 80s, so the police are just incompetent especially in Indonesia
@@hoisdisguy7400 In the 80's, police and military forces are not seperated just like today, but united as ABRI (Angkatan Bersenjata Republik Indonesia, or Armed Forces of Indonesian Republic) and under Soeharto's regime it basically at it's peak and very powerful.
FYI, at the time, some of South East Asian countries (golden triangle area), which is the area sorrounding Burma/Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, basically become the centre of drug production and trafficking. There's theory that it's related to CIA psyops in SEA (after Vietnam war), you know, just like CIA planted General Noriega in Panama, and many South American countries (you can google the book about it, the tittle is 'Our Man in Panama). Which is also happened in Afghanistan (Afghanistan poppy fields) for the last 20 years after Iraq war. Same modus operandi.
So, this why a lot of people having theory that this case probably part of Soeharto's special force operation, a.k.a PETRUS (short of 'Penembak Misterius' or Mysterious Shooter) who's targeting the drug dealers, thugs, gangsters. The drug cartels is highly suspected sponsored by you-know-who, to sabotage Indonesia and other South East Asian countries national stability. Actually, this is also one of the main reason that later on many countries of SEA approved death penalty law to against drug dealers or anyone related to drug cartels. You can watch Lee Kuan Yew (former Singapore Prime Minister) interview with BBC, and his explanation of death penalty for drug trafficker in Singapore.
But in Indonesia in the 80's, it's the era of infamous PETRUS (mysterious shooter), Soeharto's allegedly assasins. And this case, and how the victim's body was placed in the centre of the city, probably like somekind of statement, from The Smiling General (Soeharto) to the drug traffickers to gtfo? Or middle finger to CIA?
Who knows.
@@NurmaBP kinda make sense considering the bladder is missing
@Louis Santo urine sample can define whether a person use drug or not
As Indonesian, I'm really intrigued with this case. I really hope that this case will be solved one day;;;
Thank you for covering this case Megan
Sadly it will likely never happen. Why? Because Indonesia police doesnt have good track record in solving cold case. Especially murder case that already past its 18 years expiration date.
@@KyraWS sad to be true.
@@KyraWS jadi detektif di dunia nyata gak segampang detektif di drakor drakor blokkk😂
@@KyraWS true😭
@@myramx ikr😭
your channel is my favorite true crime channel. thank you so much for covering the unknown cases and letting them be known to a larger audience! you're an amazing storyteller.
i find it rly sad but also weird that no person came forward to identify this man... he was pretty young so even if his family was dead or smth didnt he at least have a friend or some classmates from school that would at least recognize him? it's rly unfortunate that his brutal murder couldnt be solved so that justice can be served...
Yes one of the theory say that this man not an indonesia citizen, they asume this man maybe from malaysia or philippines
@@yuliailmi9518 ohh that makes sense... and im guessing this case wasn't known anywhere else back then in the 80s so it was left unsolved :/
@@akut4gawa yes and the more mind blowing facts. The killer kept this man's face, fingers and toes, intact and clean. it's like the killer challenged the police to be able to solve this case. Police looking for his fingerprints and couldn't find the victim's fingerprints in the database
In 1981 Indonesia, reporting a missing person to the police wasn't a common thing to do. On top of that, the sketch of that victim's face couldn't get enough exposure. A TV set was a luxury for most Indonesians. On some occasions, the entire town would gather in the town hall to watch a football match because that's the only place one could find a TV set. Newspapers are quite the same. The biggest newspaper at that time only send out around 1 million-ish to circulation everyday, while the total national population was over 100 million people, spread on thousands of separate islands. The logistics challenges alone would make a newspaper so expensive and so late in smaller populated islands.
Never expected that the first Indonesian case covered in the channel was this Setiabudi 13. Greetings from your Indonesian viewers, Megan!
as an avid true crime enthusiast, i really love your way of narration, it keeps the listener engaged.
Cant wait for more uploads from you❤️ love from india 🇮🇳 🫶🏻
There was a theory that mentioned that the murder motive was to give warning to some "special" group and that the person that was murdered was a mafia because there is no way there is no people that knew him
I think it’s warning to someone in the police officer or some kind like that or sick man wants to have fun and show it to the public
Knowing that it was Soeharto's era, i think that's very much possible
must be people that works in soeharto
@@radyza6909 yup, that's why When people wear shirt with "my era is better" with his face is dumb, infact Soeharto have personal gunmen not related to police or military and i know this because one of my relative are one
I'm from Singapore. Thank you for featuring a story from our neighbour, Indonesia. I truly enjoyed it. 👍⚘️
The interesting thing about Indonesia before '98 is, people would always connect every cold case to Soeharto in some way. It's either he's getting rid of criminals through the (rumored) infamous Penembak Misterius (mysterious "gunman") operation, or the killer was somehow backed up by him or his cronies. And you couldn't deny the possibility because he's just that terrifyingly powerful.
one thing to remember is that during the 1980s indonesia was still a dictatorship so crime was often hidden covered up like in other dictatorships of the era. the police were not trustworthy and were often deeply corrupt.
I just found this channel, better late than never. In the midst of other youtube channels ignorantly talking and mutilated the humane aspect on true life crime cases, Megan deliver each case with honesty, its refreshing.
I've always detested how Americanized true crime is as a genre on the internet, I very much appreciate you and your channel for your masterful delivery of cases that would have likely otherwise remained unknown to the general North American public❤
why detest? No one's stopping anyone from diving into international true crime. I personally suspect:
1) There's already a ton of crime to go over in the US alone
2) A lot of American hosts feel more comfortable covering crime in a country they're culturally and socially familiar with
It's also easier to do research for north american crime because of the language, most people learn english as their second language. Unless an international case get famous, it's hard to do research in foreign language. It automatically limit your access to reseach materials too.
But Why detest them though? 🤣 I'm not even American.
@@jac1207 @Basement_Trickster i don't hate american true crime lmao i just don't like how true crime as a genre is often american-only, that's all! that's fair ^^
Akhirnya nemu akun yg mirip Nessie tapi dari luar negeri dan bahas kasus di Indonesia, selalu penasaran soalnya ada ga ya channel yt yg sejenis kaya punya Nessie judge tp bahas criminal case di Indonesia ternyata ada dong😍
Kalo suka kriminal case story, coba nonton wendigoon
Nice one .. The way the perpetrators placed two boxes of cardboard in an office building in Setiabudi, a busy area and was guarded by many security personnel without being detected in the slightest, shows something odd. the people around the office building where the mutilation victim was found really didn't know or didn't dare to talk.
No security cam at that time
This case 10 years before i was born and just recently i found out about this case, so scary. I love the way you deliver the story ❣️
Ah yes, the infamous Setiabudi 13 case. Indonesian here, and honestly, if there is a case happen like this here and no one comes forward to identify the victim, it would be hard to identify the remains because dental record that could be used is hard to obtain / doesn't even exist in the first place due to the lack of people who would go to the dentist or even the datas didn't stored well.
THE WAY YOU TELL THE WHOLE STORY YOUR CALMING VOICE EVERYTHING IS AMAZING
megan you have my respect, as an Indonesian I know it was hard to collect information and make it as a story like this. thankyou Megan for your hardwork
While listening to this story, a thought came to mind that the murdered poor young man must have people who knew him but for some reasons forced to be silent for the rest of their lives.
I am thinking, family.. Inheritance and the hiring of assassination and getting rid of evidence.
Just sharing my thoughts. Again, most of us can only speculate.
Another great report Megan. We'll done.
PS: Hoping you can cover the update of this case in the near future.. As being "Solved".
This murder is not some random murder,this might be part of a serial murder or must be a murder that was committed to seek attention i mean maybe this was a murder showing what would happen to the people who disrespect or betray the murderers ,these guys must be a mafia or something. Maybe a warning to the companies that is located on the nearby buildings. With the height and weight of that person maybe we can say assume that he is poor malnutritioned, . Rent owner or the electricity board staff must know the killer cause water charge must be high for the murderer
So excited as you delving into SEAsia crime cases. I wonder how you would cover the infamous Mona Fendi case 🤔
Keep up the good work❤❤
hi at 8:30 to 8:35 you're using a recent image of one of Indonesia's governors, Ridwan Kamil. In that distressing image, he is being comforted after finding his son's body in the Aare river in Switzerland back in 2022. Although, u may think the image fits the "energy" of the video, i believe it is unwise & quite insensitive to use this image on such a gruesome case. I think it's best if you change the image to something else related to the Setiabudi 13 case. Thank you!
Congrats Gracella! Thanks Ms Megan for giving the opportunity to tell this story from Indonesia.
this case is so horrible, thank you for covering it and letting it be known. i enjoy your content a lot, keep on posting:)))
The way you narrate the story is so soothing. The pacing, the voice, and the quality of the story combined together deserves a subscribe.
your channel is one my favourites when it comes to crimes. its also really nice to see asian crime stories when literally everywhere people are always talking about the absurd stories of the west. there is a really disturbing case that took place in India. it is called the Kolkata House of Horrors. it is one of the most bizarre cases ever and i hope you would do a video on it
This happened during the leadership of the 2nd president who led like a dictator (1966-1998). He has a mysterious gunner/snipper division under him to get rid unwanted people secretly and they often leave the victim in an open area, maybe that's why commoners don't get really curious about a case like this.
It's very odd that they could never identify him. And really sad too tbh To die such a horrible death and not even able to be laid to rest by his loved ones is such a layered tragedy.
i like her voice and the way she deliver herself, i usually listen to her cases while i paint. listening to this real life cases makes me realize im so lucky im in safe place. danger is everywhere
One of the best true crime channels on YT. The way you present every story shows respect and facts about each storyline you share. Great job.
I really love your content! If you have time, pls cover another Indonesian story cuz there's many more unsolved tragic murders that people here don't want to cover 😢
I think you should also cover the Aftab- Shraddha case of India. It was so horrific the way he murdered her.
I randomly stumbled upon your channel and it is the EXACT type of content I've been looking for in a long time! I'm happy to have found your channel!
This is honestly my favorite true crime channel
You're literally so good, megan! I love every single case by you, you're one of my favorites!
OMG YES IVE BEEN WANTING YOU TO COVER THIS STORYYYY
For a future indonesian case, you could look into our own cannibal case: sumanto, i get shivers everytime i read something about him
Theres another most recent cold case from Indonesia called Subang murders from 2021. Mother-daughter found dead in their car in a state of undress and the murderer left no trace of dna or any evidence at all. Up to 120s witnesses were questioned but nothing come out of it.
The killer is ex husband.
@@54living well thats what most people speculated but officially from the investigation no arrest has been made only some individual back in 2022 arrested but has been released after further investigation so it is somewhat a cold case even though officials are refusing to say so
Finally. This cold case gain attention to wide audience. Thanks for sharing this story.
Hey Megan..... first of all BIG FAN of you and your channel......I saw your previous post....I sadly couldn't give you much information about the crimes in my country..... that's why I decided to support you..... always be there for you and the channel..... And so grateful to you.... because these days it's easier to get to know the culture and history of any country we stumble upon.....but I believe it's difficult to learn about the criminal history and judicial system of any country....... So big THANKS to you for showcasing these crimes.... Always support and love you..... FIGHTING!!! 🥰
Thank you for letting this case be known! I saw this case on news, I'm glad you covered it.
Thx for your content as always ❤️
Can you please talk about the Chinese Corpse Dungeon (Serial Killer Jia Wenge) case. There is almost no info about this horrific case and all articles are only in Chinese. Maybe you have the source to cover this case with your team. That would be awesome
You have the voice, cadence, and enunciation that news anchors and documentary narrators would die for. It's very soothing. I appreciate the way you tell these victims stories. Thank you for covering cases many in the Americas and 'western' countries don't hear about. These victims deserve to have their stories told and to help drive awareness and change.
oh wow, even i am jakartan didn't know if there is a criminal case still hasn't unsolved in my hometown until now, i felt shocked after watching a whole the video and the polices still don't know who's culprit did this. but thank you, you shared a video about one of indonesia's infamous cold cases on your channel and also hopefully this case will solve as soon as possible :)
How I just became aware of this case and I'm Indonesian! Thank you Megan and Gracella (the writer) for bringing up this case.
Tysm for covering this case❤ Rest in Peace to the victims💔🙏 hope their loved ones find closure soon
I'm glad you're getting more attention, Megan! Amazing story telling.
Nothing just leaving my broom in the middle of the house and pausing a kdrama just o watch crime stories. Btw u r amazing u r way of explaining is amazing
Hiii unnie ... Your videos are amazing... ❤
Ooooo, snap. The intro is what I'm shook at, this is gonna be a great video!
As always your narration is impeccable! So sad the victim was never identified.
The Setiabudi 13 case was not the first mutilation case in Indonesia, but it was the first such case widely known for its brutality, and also the eye opener to the public that such crimes existed.
What was the first one??
this was done during soeharto's regime right?
my mom told me it was horrifying time because of all the mysterious sh00ting (petrus killings). she even talk about how one of her neighbor tried to remove their own tattoo to avoid becoming a victim using an iron
Miss Megan, I am honestly addicted of your true crime channel.😍❤️
Thank you for covering those cases that we've never seen before..
Looking forward for more interesting crimes cases..
More power to your channel..☺️❤️
Your voice is so soothing and it doesn't distract the listener 🙌 ❤ looking forward to see which country you choose nxt
Your channel has to be my favourite true crime channel. It's always been an interest of mine to travel across Asia, particularly South Korea, but it's also important to know about such things as nowhere in this world is 100% safe. Cold cases must be so haunting to those who worked on them and the families who have lost a loved one with their cases unsolved. I hope the souls of cold cases have been able to move on from this world and not be stuck in misery, never seeing justice for their death.
The way you cover these are amazing
Keep up the good work
Ur voice makes me have a calm mind all tho i am hearing such violent cases.. u r my fav TH-camr.. lots of love from India
It is a great pleasure to listen to you narrating these histories.
Your channel is my favourite! Your hosting, narrating and presentation of cases are the best!! You are best!!
Hello, I am also Indonesian and i love your videos. You actually pronounce it se-tee-ah-boo-dee (Setiabudi)
You are so self composed Megan to speak all this brutality with a straight face !
You deserve so much of respect hope your channel grow faster and you shine :)
good morning from BELGIUM.🌹love the way you speak.always watching you
Thank you for sharing these stories. It is truly horrifying to learn what one man can do to another. Humans are the scariest thing in the world. Hopefully someday this case may be solved and the poor soul gets the justice he deserves.
Yeah this is one of the most disturbing case in indonesia indeed, thanks for covering this topic.
I love your videos so much. especially with you touching crime cases from around Asia it is great to see somebody is covering such cases in the Asia region. many thanks and love from Singapore!!!!!
I always look forward to watching your videos, Megan. Just like others, I'm also an avid fan of true crime. Each episode puzzles me on how humans can be so cruel. Fortunately, kind-hearted people still outnumber the evil ones.
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crazy how i pretty much have lived in Jakarta my whole life, and at same point worked near where the boxes were found yet I have never heard of this story before! damn this is sad
Please upload more videos. I really like the way you narrate crime stories hoping that you can share crime stories from the Philippines. ❤
Tq so much for covering horrible case..i hope one day u will also cover some Nepal unsolve n horrible case..Anyway tq so much sis for letting us known what's happend.
Probably Not a positive thing to start the day with but it s awesome being able to start my day with your videos ❤
Megan, love your story. Please do the Murder case of Altantuya, a Mongolian lady who was murdered in Malaysia.
This is my first time watching your video. Great intro, and as soon as i see you with those background, caption/subtitle, exquisite word by word knit and also speaks with such elegant and distinct. Definitely deserve a sub. God bless you and thank you
Ur English is impeccable ! Love ur narration style too !
I never forget to watch her videos I'm always waiting for one its so interesting Love your videos !
❤❤❤ the best host ever ❤❤❤
Can you please make a video on Laxmi Aggarwal case??
PLEASE!!!
Lots of love from India 🇮🇳 ♥️ ❤️
I could listen to you for hours, Megan! Your voice is so beautiful and smooth and I love how you talk about every case, with skill and respect ❤
I really appreciate you for doing a deeper research for pictures that quite depict the 'real' condition in countries or places you tell about.. As an Indonesian, I'm quite surprised you showed that bathroom picture, so authentic
Wow it's amazing to see you have a video channel now.
Thank you so much for covering cases with other asian countries. I'll also look forward for Philippines cases sooner.
I'm so glad that your account exists and you also post without leaving it for 1 or 2 months!
challenge the police? it could also be that they killed that guy, made sure the face was intact for identification, to threaten someone else. like a rival group or syndicate, or individual that might do something against them so they were sending a message to that person not to do something cute or else...
Very creepy case. These are especially sad because the victim has no known identity.. Very sad that no one was able to claim him.
It is really a puzzling case😮
Also your way of narration is very impressive!!😊
Wow... As an Indonesian who was born and raised in Jakarta, how come i didn't know about this tragedy, RIP poor man
That time many people missing . specially if they are smart and have good heart for humanity .
Sad we call the victim "Dihilangkan"
Your content is unmatchable ...
Thank you for this mesmerizing video, your stories are Great enough ❤❤
LOVE your content! I'm binging all the videos on your channel now! Thank you ❤
I have so many questions. But like everyone else, I hope whoever murdered the victim did not commit another gruesome act again.
I'm grateful and appreciative of your and your team's efforts. You all deserve more recognition and a wider audience.
Thank you, Megan! :)
I don't know about that this might be a part of serial murdering
I love your channel. Thank you for all your hard work. You are now my number 1 goto ❤ ❤
i love ur true crime stories!! thanks for working hard. :)
🙏🏽🙇🏻♀️ Thank you very much for sharing this.
Cant wait for some case files from Philippines 👌
I love how you narrate the case! Subs immediately!
Awesome content. You are beyond words😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤🎉
I go past this area everytime i go to work and i never heard of this case before, thanks for the knowledge Miss