Rare Earth element from the Hardware Store
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- We find a lanthanide salt for sale at the hardware store, but what is it, and is it useful or interesting?
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Directionless and unsuccessful? Finally something I can relate to!
**SAME**
Don't we all
Ouch, I felt that from here! XD
Cuts deep
Is this a William Osman crossover?
"One third coke, one third water." Where is the final third? Are they okay? Am I simply left to wonder for its well-being and how it was lost?
Excellent video by the way
One third air.
And a third coke
@@izzieb + one third cup
@@nedshead5906 this video should be titled two thirds one cup.
oh, that's his yields.
I actually think this is pretty interesting. Sometimes, we need to appreciate things that just...work. Sure, there's no explosion, no massive color shift, no massive temperature shift, and no effervescence...but it's a useful chemical that, after doing its job, doesn't become a toxic waste superfund site. And...it's interesting that this chemical is actually less dangerous to humans than half of the additives in the Coke (phosphoric acid is not kind to teeth...hell, the Coke is probably safer to drink now than it was before) from what I can tell. Let's all give a cheer for something that is useful, simple, and safe.
Okay. Nothing turned yellow. So i assume this was a success.
Can the coke be considered a super intense yellow?
brown is just dark orange
of course it was a success he got the forbidden coke at the end
Turning yellow thing is probably universal. Yellow was many times bad sign for me as well. Only when used SeO2 as oxidant good sign.
@@humr2346 yea i was doing pure oragnic syntesis with things that where yellow so i was worried when it wasnt yellow
Maybe lanthanum azide has some energetic properties
azidify every element
Ram the azide into everythingg
@@ExtractionsAndIre but could you ram the azide into a ram I dare to ask
'make it explode' is the answer to everything
AZIDOAZIDE AZIDE, but in French with severe distortion
Just as an interesting note on lanthanum, it's also used as a medicine to clear phosphate from people with kidney failure. Same as in pools.
Bro needs some research fund for sure, I can tell you that from that measuring cylinder.
it's a good cylinder ! and I gotta say, every research lab i've been in has also had a measuring cylinder in the same condition haha
bro, everyone knows that broken glassware is the easiest to work with
@@ExtractionsAndIre can confirm, the presence of these glassware usually boost yield by a significant amount
@@ExtractionsAndIreconfirmed. our tlc kit is exclusively made from smashed glass
Every piece of broken glassware that you use in the lab is a savings for you. They can't charge you twice for using something that was already broken. In university I would sometimes have a glass bill of a few hundred dollars a semester. I do not know how many beakers I poked the bottom out of with a bottle brush.
I've made two unsuccessful attempts to reduce LaCl₃ to lanthanum metal using lithium metal.
First attempt: LaCl₃ + Li in a carbon crucible. 1100°C
Result: crucible full of light gray crud. No metal.
Second attempt: LaCl₃ + Li in a glass ampoule, buried in a metal cup full of sand. 1100°C
Result: sand fused to the glass ampoule, which is now filled with crusty crud and no metal.
I'm thinking of trying a fourth time, this time using a 2:1 excess of lithium, and sealing it in the glass ampoule under vacuum before heating.
LaCl₃ being hygroscopic may have messed up both of those attempts - wasting my lithium on destroying the water instead of reducing the lanthanum.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing
Lanthanum Thermite?
@@pjbth In a sense, maybe. But it doesn't seem to be a very energetic reaction.
Dancing Rain Throw some azides in there
What happened to the third attempt?
The "flint" in cigarette lighters is actually a lanthanide (cerium) alloy.
Also those "flint and steel" fire strikers. Very different from actual flint and steel.
I'm a simple man. I see off the cuff, back of the envelope science from a knowledgable Aussie, I click.
People assume that the more obscure an element is, the more interesting, but in general the opposite is true more often than not.
Yeah!
That is what I call "retroactively obvious"! Thanks
that cloudiness was clearly from Turbium :P
Terbidity
1:28 that shattered graduated cylinder he used to measure made me uncomfortable. We need to get this boy some funding to afford basic human needs
I like it
I had an f-element lecture in university and I went back to that script just to tell you....yeah Lanthanum is virtually useless.
Doped lanthanium compunds can be interesting like transparent ceramics or uv fluorescent oxides. No explosions or fires I'm aware of though. :)
Yeah! Is hard to get there though, like even getting to the oxide is so hard, it's so hard to convert from chloride to nitrate for example
@@ExtractionsAndIre If you want nitrate, why not just add silver nitrate to chloride solution to participate out silver chloride? Solubility of silver chloride is very low.
Another trick could be adding some sodium hydroxide to participate out La(OH)3 that has very low solubility in water and make some route with that.
Of course there are other methods that participate out the chloride (or even ion exchange it like ion exchange resins in water cleaning) or participate out a sparingly soluble lanthanide. Examples above may not be the best, they are just to give two examples that came to mind first.
@@hoggif I think you mean precipitate...
@@TheExplosiveGuy From what I can tell he really did mean participate. Said it like 4 times.
@@whatelseison8970 lol I think someone has a slight case of dyslexia🤣, that's not a term used in this sort of chemistry lol.
I'm a biochemist and just about every part of living things metabolism uses phosphates. I'm surprised that stuff is not massively toxic. But I guess it can't get into the cells or something.
One use for lanthanum oxide is to alloy with tungsten for "TIG" welding electrodes. It makes arc start easier. Howevr, it has a side effect of reducing the melting temperature of the electrode, so it is not a universal solution to all problems. But in any case it is not radioactive like the long time common alloying compound, thorium oxide is.
If you're at the hardware store, pick up some trisodium phosphate (TSP on the label). Much better source of soluble phosphate than cola. Also just great for cleaning glassware. Its sold as a paint preparation cleaner.
the ol 1/3 coke, 1/3 water
and 1/3 nothing
@@Christer2222 1/3 SOVL
Lanthanum is really useful in organic chemistry. Its chloride is a really strong Lewis Acid. For this reason it’s a really good catalyst for free-electrons reaction involving the use of Li/NH3 (liquid ammonia). It can be used to reduce benzene to 1,4 cyclohexadiene or selectively reduce an alpha-beta unsaturated ketone to his enolate.
If you want all the reactions are written on “organic chemistry” by Clayden-Greeves-Warren
I apologise if i misspelled something. I’m from Italy, english it’s not my first language 😅
Welcome to 2020 where you can't even have a word "Fire" in your name or otherwise you get demonetized.
The other day I was wondering if it was possible to get the rare earth elements from ferrocerium rods? Just a thought.
Would be cool to get the cerium out!
@@ExtractionsAndIre Ya gonna do it??
@@whatelseison8970 No
I once tried making rust electrochemically because I wanted to make thermite. Basically I just used a nail as an anode and started passing current through a solution of.. honestly I forget what. It would have either been NaCl or NaHCO3. Anyways it ate the nail in about 5 minutes but I think what I got was mostly hydroxide or maybe oxide hydroxide cause the thermite did not work. If cerium hydroxide is soluble that could dissolve and separate them very fast. Basically all of the iron compounds precipitated in my case.
@@whatelseison8970 maybe one day
bunnings strikes again
Your garden walls are awesome. I’ve done a lot of landscape masonry and I’ve gotta say, it’s a cool design.
best content creator ever
'No I'm not going to drink it', yeah you know your audience well. I'll admit it was me about to say that.
Gotta love the broken graduated cylinder
I used lanthanum chloride as a reagent in flame AA analysis. We bought ours premade in 20L boxes of a 5% solution, but there was a procedure on the books to make it from the oxide form, dissolving it in concentrated HCl. Only had to do that once, it was not a fun reaction when you're making 4L at a time, lots of heat to manage. Lanthanum bonds with trace anions in the solutions we were analyzing and keeps the analytes of interest (Ca and Mg mostly) from precipitating out and affecting results. So lanthanum isn't entirely useless, but it's still boring.
Thanks for another fun video!!! Only form of chemistry i get since finishing school.
ye but how does it taste as a salt?
eating all the lanthanides??
ok but could you taste the difference between the lanthanides?
Cody would eat it. Man up!
It'd taste like death I think... Heavy metal poisoning or some reason
Try making lanthanum (or almost any lanthanide) sulphate. This thing is weird: barely dissolves in water, and when you heat it to help it dissolve, it precipitates...
I just caught myself wondering about the chem technician at Baracuda labs seeing this video::::::::
"Nice Boy!" "He's got THE Lanthanide I added"
these guys for real
THE cream of OTC dealers
Chemists working with lanthanum: man this is uninteresting
Materials scientists working with lanthanum: P E R O V S K I T E
You need to have a walk around your local fishkeeping shop, phosphate removers are one of many different things you will find.
Oh hey, a new video. I've been watching so many old youtube chemest or maker vids lately, it didn't even first register to me that this was a new on.
I don't know about you, as you are in Oz, but here in England one can find on Ebay lanthanides in their elemental (metallic) form, in addition to compounds. If you add nitric acid to a lanthanide (Ln) metal, oxide or carbonate, you can get Ln ions into solution as the nitrate salt.
I know you might just laugh off this but I think flourine chemistry would be a great project
Untill the shed catches on fire.
I would say start with small scale experiments out on a field with lots of flourine detection strips and if they detect flourine run and dont come back for 10 days
@@ltcorsa2519 ^^
Hmm.
I suppose you could develop and extract gluten, then try to demonstrate the chemistry of gluten sensitivity?
Or did you mean fluorine chemistry? In which case, no, I like my TH-camrs with both hands, thank you.
Flourine ? This isn't a bakery.
Thanks for the instructions mate
You can use basic Lanthanum salts to test for acetate.
Turns blue if it works, but in my experience it nearly never works..
EP acetate identification method 1: to a solution of sodium acetate add few drops of lantanium nitrare, iodine 0.1N and dilute ammonia. Heat gently until boil. A blue precipitate is form! The only cool reaction of lantanium
The only Rare Earth I can find at Bummings is the safety earth in their electrical items.
Mitre 10 is where this one is actually, but I think it does show up at Bunnings too
The broken measuring cylinder really shows how high the safety standards are 😭
Probably the most interesting thing about lanthanum is the combloc-era Polish assault rifle development project named after it, Project Lantan.
8:38 this man living in a different dimension where a third plus a third is a whole
Big brain
l love the broken graduated cylinder at 1:57
Extractions&PoolCleaning
7:06 "Just putting my hands in the chemical"
glad im not the only one, although I haven't touched anything toxic yet, as far as I know...
I think this was a fair example of amateur research - totally in my zone. You observed the product label, and followed up to investigate properties. Boiling away the water to isolate it was a reasonable approach, you observed the unusual weight of the solution, and you discovered "beaker cement." You found a real-world way to demonstrate its properties, and educated all of us a little more.
Good basic chemistry video!
Love these kinds of video's, always fun to find out what the hardware store is really selling
Do some TIG welding with a lanthanated electrode; that's something interesting to do with lanthanum. Other than that, I got nothing..
thanks for the info😊
Nile Red used Lanthanides for high temp superconductor "123" LaSr2Cu3O7. Bismuth (large +3 ion) substitutes for La.
That graduated cylinder. This looks like a pirate lab.
I'm about to start a combined master's in chemistry, I'm dyslexic (most likely adhd too). Your way of doing things is making me feel less anxious, when you get distracted, do maths out loud and smash at your precipitate for ages it's just so relatable. 😂
Your content is great and really funny. Subscribed 👍
Look at how clean the bench is.
High quality measuring cylinder! I've got some beakers like that.... they still sorta work.
When you said "the solution is quite cloudy" I thought sarcastically "It's called turbid! Use the correct fkn terminology!" and then you said that it is turbid.
Felt like I was God for a few seconds.
You can get even more rare earth elements from the hardware store parking lot.
not even a mention of the broken graduated cylinder near the beginning. hahaha love your stuff man.
From the "She'll Be Right" School of Science. Good on yer 😎👍🏻
IMO, cerium has more interesting properties compared to lanthanum. If you can get hold of (or, better still, make yourself) cerium ammonium nitrate (quite colourful, by the way), you have an oxidant for niche applications in organic chemistry.
It would be cool to extract it from a mineral or something
bloody hell, at first glance I completely missread the label on the bottle as "prostate remover"... (had to double take) realy not sure how I feel about that... but yes, you called me (along with, no doubt, countless others) out, I am curious about what dephosphorised coke tastes like (probably horrible, but hey its science)
Who needs a supercomputer to calculate the dirac & schrodinger equation MOST? Extractions & Ire!!!!!!! It'll be the new Wild West!
Did you get all ur equipment out of trash? That's awesome if so, feels sneaky like does Aus have some laws where owning glassware would be a concern for you so u get it other way or what
A similar problem occurs when making anhydrous calcium chloride from a solution in a beaker. Difficult to remove when it is hard. First get it to the damp stage for easy removal from beaker. Heat in a evaporating dish to obtain the anhydrous form.
When phosphate remover isn't just rust
0:34 YES WE DO I WAS SHOCKED
Those 22 seconds were worth it
Lanthanum is interesting when it's melting and spewing out of a NiMH battery on your hand.
Good shit, man! I love your approach on chemistry here.
2:58 Viscous is the word you were looking for.
I got curious and looked up Lathanum in Wikipedia and found it has a lot of uses, and some that sound interesting. How about these (sometimes a bit crazy) ideas?
"Hydrogen sponge alloys can contain lanthanum. These alloys are capable of storing up to 400 times their own volume of hydrogen gas in a reversible adsorption process. Heat energy is released every time they do so; therefore these alloys have possibilities in energy conservation systems.[13][39]" and "Lanthanum reacts exothermically with hydrogen to produce the dihydride LaH2, a black, *pyrophoric*, brittle, conducting compound with the calcium fluoride structure.[22] This is a non-stoichiometric compound, and further absorption of hydrogen is possible". Interesting. Sounds difficult and perhaps a bit crazy.
"Various compounds of lanthanum and other rare-earth elements (oxides, chlorides, etc.) are components of various catalysis, such as petroleum cracking catalysts.[49]" Interestingly, you have done some petrol experients, wonder if you could do your own cracking?
There was quite a bit more in Wikipedia, you might just get inspired - or not. :)
Would be very cool to do some more experiments with petrol or diseal, given that it's so avaliable to everyone
The compound in the video turned out to be very boring, yet somehow you still made the video quite entertaining 😆
LaB6 is used as an electron emitter in SEM microscopes and X-ray lasers…
At least you got one more chemical to put in a jar, label and put on your shelf.
Do you have to special order those custom volume graduated cylinders?
Dude, your graduated cylinder is broken.
we all know whats gotta happen- lathanum perchlorate
so here we have a one third molar solution of cocacola...
Your chemistry setup is super relatable, except you actually have a good amount of good equipment and glassware, while I own 4 beakers. The most exciting chemical I have is chlorine gas from pool chemicals, which I of course have stored in Pepsi bottles.
I love chlorine! Not sure about storing it in Pepsi bottles though I must say.... be safe ! :)
I love broken graduated cylinder
It isn't a proper lab without a busted graduated cylinder
Dialysis patients take lanthinum chloride as phosphate binders all the time.
lanthanum metal is mixed with tungsten in Tig welding
I'm constantly surprised how much interesting chemistry goes into maintaining pools.
Yes and how to make it simple enough that every average consumer can do it. It's interesting that you can have products as dangerous as pool chemicals and do things as technical as balancing pH and control phosphates, and write it up simply enough that anyone can follow the instructions
@@ExtractionsAndIre The more I think about it, the more impressive a feat it is: keeping a body of water, open to the heat and elements and any flying dirt, clean, clear, biologically safe, and pleasant-smelling for weeks, with minimal maintenance, with minimal instructions. I agree.
Remember: Lanthanum Syrup is NOT Laudanum syrup ... don't drink that no matter how yummy it looks.
That should be your outro to every video
Love the broken graduated cylinder
The shed is beautiful atm
Here for the lab-grade conc. aqueous cola solution
You should make an explosive that is a completely clear solid. Like burning glass.
I never thought lanthanum would be so boring...
You could make a nickel metal hydride battery with the lanthanum in the negative electrode.
sir did you accidentally educate me on lanthanides?
What if you synthesise the lanthanide oxalate (react a solution of a lanthanide nitrate with sodium oxalate) then thermally decompose it in the absence of air to see if it produces finely divided pyrophoric lanthanide metal? It might work for some of the lanthanides, or maybe not for any of them (if the lanthanide oxalate's thermal decomposition product is the oxide as opposed to the metal, then it will not work). I know this works for oxalates of transition metals (e.g. Ni and Fe). In the case of transition metal oxalates, thermal decomposition in the absence of air results in carbon or carbon monoxide, which are reducing agents. Hence, the metal in its zero oxidation state (i.e. elemental or metallic form) is produced, instead of the oxide. The metal produced is so finely divided and has such a high surface area that it undergoes exothermic and rapid oxidation as soon as it is exposed to air.
In a thermate mix, there is barium nitrate. I wonder if you could make an interesting thermate by substituting barium nitrate for lanthanum nitrate? A random idea, as lanthanum chemistry is quite boring. Maybe you could synthesize a cuprate containing lanthanum? For example, lanthanum barium cuprate?
one third coke, one third water, yesyes
in the old days (60s and about) La and Ce were used in flints of pocket lighters 'cus they're pyrophorous. But these days they all use piezos.
FeLaO3 is an interesting compound it can be used as a microwave catalyst for reducing organic compounds with IPA, it's an un-distorted perovskite other than that is boring as shit. FeGdO3 is much less boring, super magnetic with iron 3+ and Gd 3+ and its a very distorted perovskite
Aren't there cheaper agents for removing phosphate from pools? Calcium phosphate (bone, apatite) is very insoluble, for example.
Put it into pool, drink shitloads of coke, go for a swim, release the yellow stuff and watch the precipitation of phosphate ;-D