Skinner Sight Accuracy - Good Enough To Hit What You Are Aiming At ?
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- Are Skinner Sights capable of good accuracy? Can the average shooter benefit from an aperture sight like those from Skinner Sights, XS Sights, Lyman, or Williams. In this video I will use my old eyes and my Marlin 39A with Skinner sights to answer those questions.
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You look GREAT for 70yrs, hope I'm that lucky. Once I went to aperature sights on rifles (primarily rimfires) I never went back.
Ok, I'm busted. I won't be 70 till April. I was rounding up😄 Thanks anyway!
I agree no way 70 yrs , you look maybe 50's i hope i look that good at that age.
Great knowledge you are giving us thank you.
he's already confessed to his lie and I've unsubscribed. and poisoned his cat.
First time I used aperture sights was on an M1 Carbine. I've been a fan of that kind of sight ever since. And the M1 Carbine is one of my favorite rifles to shoot. I put Skinner sights on my Marlin 1894c 357 mag. and I couldn't be happier with the results. I just turned 60 and with the aperture sights I'm shooting as well as I did when I was in me 30's.
Amen, Douglas. They saved my shooting "life".
Excellent presentation.
Like many others, I learned to shoot aperture sights in the military, and frankly don’t care to use anything else.
I never missed a single 300m target.
Another thing to take into consideration is that when looking through an aperture sight versus open sights is that the target is sharper. You can test this by making an almost closed fist and looking through it at an object. I use both Williams and Skinner sights on my lever guns and on one turn bolt. Scopes on the rest.
I hadn't thought about that but yes, as the aperture gets smaller, the target (and front sight) would get sharper. Same concept as depth of field on a camera. As the aperture on a camera gets smaller (f-stop gets higher) focus becomes less critical. I have used the "closed fist" trick when I forget my reading glasses. Great comment. Thanks!
I recently acquired a Marlin 39A with skinner sights. Took it down to the range to check it out. First time shooting it, an inch high at 25 yds, right on at 100 yards, and holding about 6 inches high at 175 yds, took out the bowling pins. I could not be more pleased. It is a 1954 year rifle. You are a lot older than me, I am only 69 but same issue with the eyes!
A lot older! Haha! Great little rifle you got there. Much older than mine ;-)
The action on that rifle is BUTTER
Yep, it is slick!
Great vid. Good, clear narration.
Made in my hometown. I've done construction work for the company. The owners a great guy. Knows allot about guns, in every aspect.
Thanks Randy. They are great folks over at Skinner!
Nicely done. Thank you.
Thanks Brad! I appreciate that!
I guess you could say I was brought up on aperture sights. Before I could legally own a firearm, I was a member of my high school rifle club and all of our target rifles had aperture sights, both front AND rear. Sure, we only shot over 25 yards, but scores of 74/80 weren't uncommon on the then-standard targets. My first rifle, a (well) used Mossberg Model 42M-B came with an aperture rear sight and front blade and I harvested a lot of rabbits with it from my uncle's farm before the local Environment department compulsorily acquired the property.
I have since owned a Garand (dated 7 December 1941) and a Ruger Mini 14, both having the standard military style aperture rear sights and both shot extremely well in our local IPSC competition. At least, I USED to own them, until a mass shooting led our government to effectively prohibit ownership of such dangerous items by the irdinary shooter unless you were able to satisfy the authorities that you were a contract shooter who earned the majority of your income from that employment.
However, I still possess an old "bitzer" Lithgow SMLE No1 Mk 111, originally manufactured in 1926, in .303 [the whole world except the USA knows what a .303 is - no-one else needs to add "British" :-) ], somewhat sporterised, with a Lithgow "H" barrel and Parker-Hale aperture rear sight. I had lent the rifle to several other, generally novice, shooters to use under appropriate supervision with factory ammunition. Several of these shooters had informed me that they couldn't shoot a group with that rifle. Accordingly, one day when my son and I were at the range I put up one of those old 25 yard targets I mentioned above, at a genuine 100 metres and fired a 5 shot group from the bench, with my handloads using 150gr Speer Spitzer Soft Point projectiles. I was 73 at the time and require +2.5 spectacles to read. Through a fairly fine aperture, I could barely make out the target and had no spotting scope. You can only imagine my surprise when my son brought back the photo of the group. It measured 1.03" at 100m (or 110 yards), well inside Minute of Angle.
No-one can tell me aperture sights are inaccurate !
One point that I would like to make is this: the closer your eye can be to the rear sight, the better, and more quickly you will be able to acquire your target. I NEVER, absolutely never, look at my rear sight. That way, all you should be able to see is your front sight post and your target. That allows your eye to find the brightest light in the centre of the aperture, automatically without any effort by or from the shooter.
Sorry for being so long winded, but I hope somebody out there can gain something from my experience.
Charles, that is the BEST of comments. Great story and a lot of good information. I hope folks take time to read it. Thank you!
Just so you know the 303 British is not the only 303. In the good old USA we have the 303 Savage that came along in 1894. Love mine in the model 99.👍
Classic rifle and classic, even though not well known, cartridge!
I'm glad I took the time to read this b4 posting my comment. AlI I wanted to say was that the aperture should be as close to the eye as possible, but you already said it. On small rifles a tang sight is a possibility sometimes. Don't fall for the idea to replace the sight blade with an aperture like they sell for CZ .22s. Also a peep sight is a real optical device, not just a notch and post to align.
This is a fantastic summary of shooting with peep sights. Good shooting!
Thanks!
Combing a skinner express with an LPVO on my Marlin. Kept the wood stock but swaped on the Midwest rail. Combining old world cowboy with new world operating has lead me to fall in love with lever gats on a whole new level. My AR has been relegated to second fiddle for ranch work since I built my Marlin. I hope more and more gun guys my age get into the lever world.
That's a great comment! The AR platform is awesome for sure, but there is another world of fun and function out there that most younger guys have yet to tap into.
My current 336 is kind of a work in progress and I just ordered Skinner sights for it today. Considered RPP sights but went with the Skinner Alaskan and the front sight with the white ramp. My eyes are old also. I've used aperture sights before and normally just use them in the ghost ring configuration. Your eyes will normally just center the front post anyhow. The ghost ring is accurate and gives fast target acquisition. Great videos and keep them coming
Thanks David! As a kid I struggled with the tiny peep on my Remington 510. Great in bright sun. Hard to use at all in low light. I had no idea how accurate the larger apertures could be.
Very nice! I love the 39a was my first rifle when I was a kid. I prefer aperture sights but I like a vernier Tang aperture sight with a adjustable Iris. But also the ghost ring has a very good purpose core fast Target acquisition for hunting. I think with a flat shooting center fire zeroed at point-blank range where the aperture that you're not going to adjust would be a good way to go for hunting. I like your video I'm going to subscribe and watch what else you have. Thanks
Thanks Brian! Welcome!
Nice Marlin, I have the same one. I have considered adding the Skinner sight to mine, and after this video, I think I will.
Hi John. It made a world of difference for my old eyes. Love shooting again.
Great video. I just installed ghost sights on my old Marlin 336 30-30. I’m looking forward to taking it to the range😃
Awesome! I hope they work as well for you as they do for me.
I tried many different sights and a long eye-relief scope on my Winchester 94AE .44mag, and nothing beats the quick target acquisition of iron sights. And I don't use anything but open sights on any of my pistols and revolvers. Red dots, laser, etc. are way too slow. People should practice more instinctive shooting than anything else. Speed can be the difference between life and death.
Thanks! I also love open sights for quick work. Several of my rifles now have the Marble Arms Bullseye Peep and that is, besides being dirt cheap at $20, so quick and easy to use.
Thank you for sharing your information on skinner sights. Inhave three..2 on marlins and one on a 10/22. Not an overabundance of videos with skinner sights.
Thanks! You are right about the Skinner content. And I think a lot of folks are interested. I don't know which of my videos you have seen, but I've done several already about Skinner sights and have two more rifles lined up for a Skinner upgrade. One on my Marlin 1894 and another on a vintage Marlin Model 60 I got my wife for Christmas. That one will be an unconventional installation for sure. Stay tuned.
What Marlins do you have with Skinners?
@@TargetSuite I have skinner express sites on Marlin 1894 357 mag and just have installed and zeroed a skinner express on a Marlin 1895 CB 45-70 . both will ring a 8 in steel plate a 100 yrds every time.
That's awesome! I bet that 45-70 rings them louder! :-)
There is soothing about the sound and feel of a slick lever gun
Yep. Some people talk about racking the slide on a pump shotgun, but the sound of a well fitted lever gun cycling is in a class of its own. Thanks for the comment Trevor!
Target Suite Greetings from Australia. Yes I have a Henry 22 with a skinner peep. It is such a sweet little outfit. The feel of lever action is also very smooth but I doubt very much if it could a candle to your Marlin
Great to hear from you guys "down under". My Marlin has a smoothness that only comes from shooting 20k rounds or so. I'd like to try one of those Henry 22's. I hear they are nice.
Target Suite yep they certainly are. Plenty sold out here. I Personally have three of them and they all seem to be very accurate and just a joy to shoot. Give them go when you get a chance. Cheers
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I just got a 39m that had a old Williams receiver sight mounted with it. I have an 39a that I just can’t see the front sight with the stock sights....I’m in my mid 40’s and I just started having trouble picking that front sight out. The peep sighted gun works great for me...I am still able to see that front sight and shoot some respectable groups with it. Just doesn’t seem right putting a scope on one to me. One thing that I thought was slick on the m was somebody cut and pulled out the fixed sling swivels and drilled out the pin between in the posts to be able to use quick release swivels. Really cleaned up the lines and now I can easily switch my slings between guns. I’m thinking about doing that to my a too. I can see in your video your 39 has the original fixed swivels. My son is 4, I think I’ll put the a up until he gets older for him and switch over to just shooting the m. I took my first shots years ago on my dad’s 39.
Mid-40's was when things went south for me as well. I'm blessed to have had two 39a's. One was my dad's. That went to my adult son a few years ago. My own 39a will go to my grandson, my daughter's son. Bases covered on both ends. Those are great rifles and worthy of the next generation.
Aperture sights can be extremely accurate, the only problem not having magnification is at 100 yards the target starts to get small relative to the front sight, so shot placement can be tricky. The sights on my M1A work very well, however bear in mind if it is going to be getting dark you need a bigger aperture or you can end up not being able to see anything. I have the Skinner aperture sight on my 1894 Marlin 44 mag, and have two different aperture sizes, however when the light gets really dim, neither are big enough, however for close range defensive purposes just unscrewing the aperture completely works well enough to give you plenty of light and let you see your target, but also gives you good enough alignment for close range. The human eye is incredibly good at judging where the middle of something is, the symmetry etc. so you should never underestimate what good old "peep sights" can achieve.
Thanks for the comment. I do think folks (including my son) underestimate the potential of a modern aperture sight. And that's why I wanted to do this video. But what was surprising to me in the beginning was how accurate you can be even with the larger apertures, because as you confirmed, the eye is very good at "centering". So you can get good accuracy and decent "low" light performance.
@@TargetSuite There is definitely a tendency to think we need the smallest aperture possible, and that might be the case shooting out to hundreds of yards, but I've found that in the 25 - 50 yard distance at least, that is not the case, because of our ability to center the front sight in the aperture, which is also something we seem to do naturally and subconsciously.
Nice shooting!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks Jeffry!
I love skinner sights, I’ve always had a horrible time with regular open sights. skinner sights allowed me to shoot easily with them
Amen. Made some dust collectors fun guns once again!
I like aperture sights the best been shooting them sense I was a kid they work great for me.
My early experience with aperture sights was with a Remington 510 that I got when I was 6 or 7. The aperture on that rifle was so small, it was hard to shoot in anything but bright sunlight and I gave that rifle to a cousin when I got my Marlin 39a in the early 60's.. The larger diameter "sporting" apertures I am using today are a completely different game, and like you I love them. Thanks Craig!
So many of us who enjoy caring for, altering and improving our guns and ammo have this gentlemans engineering bent don't we?
Thanks ?
It's funny you should do a segment on the peep sights. I just got my Marlin 44 and after firing it for the first time, I find my eyes are not what they used to be where open sights are concerned. Therefore I have ordered a set of skinner sights for it. I used to love peep sights when I was younger and my dad who was a small arms instructor in the army forbade me to use scopes. Now they are on most of my rifles. I also have the Marlin 357 and 444. A Red dot on the 357 and scope on the 444. This 44 however will be just the peeps. I look forward to trying them and want to thank you for your video's on the Marlins. Very informative.
Thanks Phillip! You've got quite the collection of Marlins. One for every mood🙂 I'd like to have the 444 as well. But I'm more serious about an earlier 336 in 35 Remington. I think they call them waffle tops because of the pattern on the top of the receiver. I've already researched some 3M adhesive to lock the Skinner on that rifle (so I don't have to drill and tap that waffle top) Maybe a future video.
I use aperture sights on all of my lever guns except my original 1911 mfg 1892. One day at the range one of the inserts apparently unscrewed itself and I lost it. So I ended up shooting it as a ghost ring and it worked just fine. I locktited all the rest of the inserts in so I wouldn't lose another one. I didn't replace the lost insert and I'm still shooting it as a ghost ring and it still works just fine. Apparently your eyes will center the front post no matter how big the hole is. Love those peeps!
Hi David. That has been my experience also. It only takes a little practice to get very satisfying precision from the larger apertures. And they are usable in a lot more conditions than the "more precise" smaller apertures. Thanks as always for the comments!
George, the only thing I dislike about the Skinner sight is the fine adjustment feature which is not there. And most of the time one has to purchase a taller front sight. I'm referring to a Marlin 336 in 30-30. This aperture sights work great if "close" is good enough. The last one I had on the Marlin I had purchased a taller front sight, set the aperture as low as it would go and then began filing the front sight until POA and POI were the same at 50yds. That gave me plenty of adjustment was longer distance. I have a Marlin 336XLR and it is one beautiful rifle and with the stainless rear aperture, it was gorgeous !! lol But, alas, I now have an ugly scope on it lol. I purchased a Williams peep which allows one to make extremely small adjustments but not near as pretty on the gun.
The aperture adjustment of the Skinner is not as bad as some claim, but you can't fine tune that setup for sure. And your experience with filing . . . I've lived it
I had a Winchester 94 AE in 7-30 Waters which I put a Williams foolproof on.That little rifle averaged 1.35 inch groups through 80 rounds of factory ammo at 100 yds. Wish I still had it. I have always loved aperture sights.
If only . . . I know. There are several I let go over the years🙄
@@TargetSuite If you only knew , the story of my life!
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Love the sound of that rifle cycling another round!
I'm with you Damian. Music to my ears!
There is something soothing about the sound and feel of a smooth lever action
I use Skinner Sights with the Ghost Ring set up for my 44 Henry & 1895 45/70 Marlin Cowboy for Pig hunting here in OZ and never miss and I have old eyes for this 57yr old 👍
Hi Bob. It's a great sight and really opens up shooting again for a lot of "more mature" guys😄
You are not old. Just Mature
Amen Trevor! Amen!
Skinner sights are great. I used them for years on two lever guns. I had to switch to scopes my old eyes. LOL
So far, the Skinner sights are working for me, all good things eventually do come to an end😄
I installed a Skinner Express on my Henry H010 in combination with my stock front. The quality of their peer sight is beyond reproach, and it installed easily. I took it to the range and the gun was shooting 4-5 inches high at 50 yards. Grouping was great, it was shooting to the centre of the target, just 4-5 inches high. For anyone with an H010 that wants to install a Skinner Express, do yourself a favour and order a taller front sight while you're at it.
Great feedback Matthew. Thanks!
The realy old model Marlin 39's were some of the Best rifles ever made,, the newest 39's were good enough but i do miss the old ones...
I'm sure hoping the new Marlin brings them back, like the old ones.
I've got a Henry Mare's Leg I'm thinking about put a Skinner sight on. I shoot a lot of scoped rifles but something about a lever action that I like. I've got a range here at the house that goes out to 600 yards and have a steel plate that's 7 foot tall by 4 foot wide and I get a kick outa seeing how far out I can hit that plate with the 22 Mare's leg. I'm out east of Houston so if you ever wanna ring some steel, let me know. Take care.
Thanks! We're holed up in Louisiana for the duration of the "plague". A Skinner on that mare's leg will definitely draw some attention. But the beauty of having your own range is you control the amount of attention😄
WOW! I always discredited aperture sight accuracy potential.
Me too. But the math doesn't lie :-)
I run an aperture front and rear. Watch the highpower guys (and gals) drop bigbore into a 12" 10 ring (and 6" bullseye?) @600m all day long.
Yep. I wish my eyes could still see that well.
Did a soda can just disappear? Good info and good shooting!
Hahaha! Busted! I was in a rush to post (a day late ! ! ! ) and didn't get the two cameras sync'd up.
William's 5D sight on my Winchester 44 mag trapper.
Model 92? That's on my wish list. Hi up on that list.
Hello, Nice Video-What is the height of your front sight? I want to get the receiver-mounted Skinner for a Henry Octagon .22, but I think it will require a taller sight. Thanks, Chris, Tx
Hi Chris. I'll try and remember to measure it when I get back to the farm but if you don't hear from me, remind me in the comments of next Tuesday's video.
I'm considering a ghost ring for my shotgun. I don't need long-range accuracy, but speed of target acquisition is important.
Thanks for the comment John! I'm a relatively recent convert to the large aperture sights . . . ghost rings. And with a little practice they are capable of surprising accuracy, as you saw in the video.
@@TargetSuite both of your videos I've watched have surprised me. First I learned that a tiny stick is mightier than a bullet and now I learned that "old fashioned" sights can be as good as optics.
Hello again John. There is so much conventional wisdom floating around the shooting community that gets accepted as fact. When I can I'll try and find out the "truth". And I'll admit, I was surprised by what I found in both this video and the "twig" test. Thanks for the comments.
@@TargetSuite and they say we graybeards are stuck in our old ways.
Hey! It's fun to learn new tricks (old dog . . . new tricks . . . never mind I know you got it)😄
love that rifle
It's a sweet one for sure. I've got more trigger time with that rifle that all others combined😄
@@TargetSuite I'll be looking for one to go with my 44, the action looked so smooth and the rifle elegant. What year?
Mine is from 1963. They don't make them anymore, which is a shame. All things considered, I don't think there is a better 22 rifle out there.
How come Louisiana and no accent? Native West Coast'r?
*Sub'd*
- I can tell you're a sharp cookie from a few seconds into your video. Not butterin' your bread, just an observation w/appreciation.
Haha! Thanks for the sub. No, my folks were deep south all the way, but dad drug us all over the country with his job. I guess the exposure tempered my twang.
I put Skinner sights on my Henerys. The .357 mag hits everything you look at. The .327 Fed Mag slightly less accurate. I need more time to sight that one in.
Thanks. Love the Skinners!
I shot 10M small-bore & air rifle competition for over 12 years with peep sights, and the 10 was nothing more than a literal dot. My Henry Steel in 45-70 has a rear peep, and I can hit a bowling pin off-hand at 100yds, so I don't think there's any question as to their accuracy...
Nope. Peeps are awesome, even the large apertures popular today. Thanks for the comment Frank!
I too have 72 yr old eyes. I have a 94 Winchester in 30-30, and a Marlin in 32 special that I can't see the sights on very well. Do you think the aperture sight would help?
Gary, aperture sights and magnified shooting glasses have helped me enormously. I wouldn't be shooting very much without the aperture sights for sure.
Hey george, ordered a set tonight for my 39A, 63 and counting, need i say more ? 😂
You'll love 'em! Thanks!
Not sure how, found this channel but I’m happy I did. I’m a fan of aperture sights, but I have not put any on my lever guns because it seems to be a pain figuring out which rear setup to get, do you need to change the front blade, etc....
Thanks! I seemed like a daunting task to me as well until I just jumped in. The rear sight was mostly a matter of "style", but that front sight . . . I got lucky on the Marlin 39A but intentionally went too tall on the Winchester 1886. It was easy to trim down.
aperture sights really are the best all-purpose arrangement. Nobody could rightly say they're the absolute king of any field, but as far as irons go you can do much worse than fitting a good aperture rear and illuminated front post. As classic as buckhorns are, there's no real place for them on modern lever guns anymore, not when the only advantage they offer is easily countered by having a two-position 50-150 or 100-200 aperture installed (and that's not even getting into the options available for dialed apertures)
Sorta the same deal with saddle rings these days, but my anachronistic Rossi 92 has both types of rings. Hey, nobody ever said I can't have useful sights _and_ saddle storage.
Haha! Blending the old and new, I love it! You are spot on about the usefulness of the aperture sights. Especially for older eyes.
@@TargetSuite It's gotta be how they frame the target picture. As long as you can line up the front post and the target within the aperture then centre it off, you're going to be precise enough for most purposes They're good for quick shots but don't exclude you from taking the time to set up an accurate shot either.
Apertures are good sights no matter how you cut it.
Yep. I grew up on a Remington 510 Targetmaster with a tiny peep. Too small when the light was low, but in bright sunshine it was very precise!
@@TargetSuite Arguably the small-aperture high-occlusion sights aren't the best, but they make good learning tools. Unfortunately the limited field of view doesn't teach you how to maintain situational awareness. That's one flaw going against them I suppose.
The secret with an aperture is just to ignore the rear sight completely...just look THROUGH it and put the tip of the foresight on the target. Your eye will centre the front sight without your consciously doing it, far ,ore accurately than you can do it by thinking about it. A fairly large aperture sight is the fastest sight there is..... Just don't over think it and you'll hit every time. There is no finer sight system for brush shooting where snap shots are the rule rather than the exception. The whole point is that it takes less skill and less visual acuity than a normal open sight....
Great comment! I actually made this video in response to someone who thought just the opposite about the accuracy potential of aperture sights. After checking my math he was sold and bought a Skinner sight for his own Marlin 39a.
@@TargetSuite Yes... it's counter-intuitive with aperture sights (a bit like steering to the left to make a motorcycle turn right)... I have even tried them on a 1911 pistol with great success, and for that the aperture needed to be 5/16" due to its distance from the eye.....
It's an odd feature of the human eye of which one takes advantage with these sights....
Much lore has been lost recently due to the advent of optical sights which didn't exist 60 years ago, and that is a pity.
Optical sights work very well, but even the most compact of them are bulky, they are easily damaged in the field and some require batteries. So many hunters these days can't hit a 10" paper plate at 100 yards offhand.... The basics of breath control, holding and trigger squeeze are not rendered obsolete with optics, wonderfully precise though they are.
I have a Winchester 94, 1947 vintage in 30-30.......I have been searching for a peep sight for it, I hate buckhorn sights!......will the skinner fit into the dove tail on my rifle? If you know?
Hi Dan. Skinner does have a sight that mounts in the buckhorn dovetail. It puts the peep a little far forward, but it may work. I just haven't tried it yet.
My problem with notch sight is it's slower to get accurate shots, and it blocks a lot of stuff. If I'm just punching paper, it's fine. But if I'm hunting, I'd want to have my sight block as little things as possible.
Amen, and the semi-buckhorn that came on my Winchester 1886 seemed to be designed just for the purpose of blocking a lot of the sight picture😄
Is it just me....or did your shoot the first grouping to the left of the center of the target when you were “centering” your sights......then shot dead center perfect when you moved them .20” Thousand to the right?
Not sure, I'd have to go back and re-watch. But to adjust your point of impact, the rear sight does have to move in the direction you need the POI to move.
Skinner sights work just fine as any solid peep. The big problem with Skinner sights is that they are very coarse in adjustment. VERY. Great for a 50 yard shot at something like a cowboy target or a grizzly bear...Not worth anything for decent shooting at 100-200yds. On your 39a, you'll rarely take any long distance shots so it's just fine there as well...
Hi CS. That was my initial thought as well, but a half revolution of the Skinner aperture post only moves the POI up or down by .75" at 50 yards, or 1.5" at 100. That puts me on the head of a squirrel at 50 yards and the bottom of a soda can at 100. Of course I can't see well enough to tap that potential, but with the right eye and steady hand (and good lighting) the Skinner has more than fine enough adjustment to get a round into the vitals of a deer sized animal out to 200 yards.
The skinner sight are sorry I but them on my Rossi 357 and I was shooting way too the right good not get them sighted in moving them till the sight come out of the dovetail
Hi James. Granted, I haven't seen your setup, but my first thought is that the problem might be with the Rossi and not Skinner.
James, check out the sight I put on my 1892. I was skeptical, but it turned out to be awesome! th-cam.com/video/HoMTwOkt4yM/w-d-xo.html
the human eye is cray powerful. humans have a ability to section circles with remarkable accuracy. its why the military uses mil-dots . even tiny circles it dont matter much.
Yep. You are spot on!
Is that the stock front sight or did you have to install a higher one?
That is the stock front sight. All my other rifles with Skinners needed a taller front sight.
@@TargetSuite ... Thank you for the reply.
Some years ago I put a Skinner simple post peep (no base plate) on my Mountie because I thought I would need to replace the front sight if I ordered the one with the base plate.
Now I see I COULD have used it.
I love your videos, BTW.
Thanks Claude!
What are the best value aperture sights for centerfire rifles?
The Marble Arms Bullseye sight is the best value. I have several on different lever guns. Here is a vid I posted about that th-cam.com/video/HoMTwOkt4yM/w-d-xo.html
@@TargetSuite what about aperture receiver sights?
If you are talking flat top leverguns, Skinner, Ranger Point Precision and XS are great brands. If you have a Winchester or Marlin that is drilled and tapped on the side like my 336s, the Williams FP sight is a good one. You can check that sight out here . . . th-cam.com/video/32D6-ozAkfc/w-d-xo.html
@@TargetSuite Now what about bolt action reciever aperture sights? sorry for the barrage of questions
Check with Williams and Lyman for sights that might fit your rifle. Good luck.
Great sights no doubt.
Unfortunately the tapped
Holes in the receiver were
Out of alignment with the bore.
No scope, peeps, or red
Dots can fix that. Boo
Marlin 1894.
Wow! That really stinks!
Indeed.
I'm opposite, I see 3 overlapping peeps when using a peep sight with my 60 year old eyes; but with a u notch sight I do wonderfully!
I adjust the windage of my US model of 1917 with feeler gauges. Many people told me that no one can be that accurate, so what I was doing was ridiculous. It gets the job done the first time, every time!
Haha. I wish I had your eyes (ability to shoot "open" sights. As to your use of feeler gauges, I'm with you. I adjust my peeps with calipers. It does make a difference!
Win 94 AE, I am the same way, now appeture sights try to shade in on me, I have trouble looking through the top part of my bifocal lense while aiming. Course open sights work best for me too.
I wish I could blame my inability to shoot open sights on my age, but the problem goes back to my youth. My brain just ain't made that way. Thanks for jumping in on the comments.
@@TargetSuite You're Welcome Brother, never said we weren't able, just challenged.
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I have several rifles and owned more than I can count over the years. I understand the utility of peeps but when I look through my Mauser v notch sights, I see nothing but repeatable accuracy. Peeps just make me second guess all the time but that may just be me and my OCD tendency, with the Mauser there is no question, the precision is obvious.
I have a 1956 Marlin 39A in very nice condition and want to install a Skinner peep sight. It will require drilling and tapping 2 holes on top of receiver. Some people turn red in the face saying that it will destroy the value and appreciation of the original rifle. What does everyone else think. I will
seriously listen to all comments. It is a tough decision.
David, before you drill and tap that receiver, check out the video I just uploaded th-cam.com/video/HoMTwOkt4yM/w-d-xo.html
@@TargetSuite Thanks for the info on the Marbles Bullseye sight. Have checked it out and is also a great option. Keeps getting harder to choose.
Haha! Glad I could help ? ? ? 😄
I watch because of the lever guns . by the way i still have my 39 m. i got when I was 7 . Like your vid
It's funny you say that. My original intent was not to focus on lever guns, but it just turned out that my first 1894 had issues, then a couple of friends needed help with their Marlins. It has been so much fun, and rekindled my own love for the platform. I'll still do other stuff, but lever action rifles just push all my buttons.
Lyman peep sight on a 1917 Lee Enfield .303 British .
That sounds like a great setup! Thanks for the comment!
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Are you shooting those soda cans on top of old tires? " you'll shoot your eye out kid!"
Haha! BBs yes.
No need to centre the post in the middle of the aperture deliberately, the eye automatically centres it.From South Africa.
Yep. It's pretty natural. Thanks!
Old farts like me like peeps!
Yep. I get it. Peeps on all my rifles😄
Same here. 🍻
Good to know, 41 and my formerly 20-08 vision ain’t what it used to be.
You make me mad you should have drank the pop before shooting the cans
Haha!
I don't understand your berm/backstop. It seems like a path/trail back there. These things stand out madly for me, as my region only allows government inspected range set up, and this would not pass the inspection by any means.
Not sure what region you are referring to, but my range goes down into a creek bottom. Beyond my property which goes for almost a half mile, is over two miles of wilderness. It exceeds the safety levels of most ranges and far exceeds the safety requirements of TH-cam for safe shooting.
I spot those ear plugs around your neck but not in your ears. Good video but as a person with a 100% deaf ear and poor hearing in the other, it's something I notice.
Poor hearing hasn't affected your eagle eyes😄 I rarely wear hearing protection with long barrel 22 rifles. Maybe I could borrow a db meter and measure sound from the different barrel lenghts. Hmmm
@@TargetSuite They have db apps for phones. Don't know how accurate they are. But half a dozen .22 shots are not going to damage anyone's hearing. Hearing loss is the result of chronic exposure to loud noise. The only way acute exposure could cause permanent damage would be for it to be insanely loud, much moreso than any rifle you are likely to fire.
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