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The phrase "You know that popular drink, but you're never quite sure what's in it?" was like 90% of the problem with their pitch. They could've just admitted that they like boba and they wanted to do their own spin on it without the shady Asian panic in the first sentence.
Tea? Tapioca? Fructose and xanthan gum which isn't that fun but I absolutely know what that is? Labels I can easily read with my basic education level?
I have to agree with this. Like, "You know that popular drink, but you're not familiar with the ingredients in it?" would have been a much more neutral way to put it, I believe.
100% could have used better approach. I've had store-bought canned popping bobas since years ago and it actually tasted closer to artificial sweeteners and preservatives than fresh-made boba drinks. Health-wise, taste-wise, and customable-wise, I prefer fresh than canned. But the canned boba costs less, doesn't require standing in line and speaking to an employee as it's sold in convenient stores, and can be left stored longer. It would make more sense if they had pitched the product as inspired by the conventional bubble milktea that a lot of people enjoyed but with a package designed to appeal towards a different market that enjoys canned drinks. Because the initial drink is already enjoyable (and arguably healthier than its canned variant would be), but there's a potential to reach out towards this other market that doesn't typically buy freshly-made boba drinks.
there are so many boba shops that serve freshly brewed high quality tea and for them to claim theirs is "healthier" is so incredulous to me. u want a healthier tea? dont add pearls or milk or syrups in it. at least the pearls in quality boba shops are made fresh and in front of you. that being said, canned boba has always existed and this is neither exciting nor new.
Yes probably to some health conscious and diabetes patients it's can be unhealthy im not Taiwanese but as an Asian in globisation era we also sell use western products or food but we don't claim we invented it if they worded there pitch differently it would've been better
In the particular bubble tea menu item I like getting near me, the only sugar is in the pearls, sweetening the drink just enough to not be bitter from extra strong tea.
Almost all boba tea shops offer varying levels of sugar, too. Those bobba people are just racist. I live in Québec and I'm unfortunately very familiar with this kind of fear of "ethnical" stuff. Fortunately I live in the city of Montréal where we tend to be more culturally mixed, but I have family in Québec city and there's a real paranoia about anyone not "pur laine"
@@forest_green They seem innocently insensitive or unaware, not racist. I don't blame people for being unfamiliar with my cultural foods (I'm not into forcing people to try eating unborn ducks or marinated chicken feet). We shouldn't be guilting people into trying other food. I think empathizing with those like them will go a long way, it's just a business pitch and change the wording to "we don't know what's in [name of western food]" and you'll realise how not racist it is. I've seen this pitch being done for western food like western baby food (or something to that effect for organic baby food), it's much more common thing than we all think. I remember advertisements in my country actually pulling that good'ol "no mystery preservatives" crap for food targetted to school aged children 20 years ago. However if you think it's racist, that's fine, I thought I'll share a perspective here.
You can pin the exact moment Simu thinks "oh so this is racist" and he definitely makes that sentiment known. It's crazy how he kind of says it outright-- extremely professionally-- and it just gets brushed off.
It’s also just wild to try and make it “not Asian” like I’m sorry you’re scared of Asians but the rest of us aren’t and quite enjoy the authentic experience even if we’re not Asian ourselves lol
My first reaction when they said *you're never quite sure about it's content* about bubble tea was *wow they just insulted an Asian drink to a prospective Asian investor, they will definitely not get his money*
So much respect for Simu to speak up and call out such behaviour. If he hadn't, it would further normalize the notion this kind of insulting/stealing is okay.
And they don't care because they don't think they need it with other investors on the panel. And that's why, if we can afford to make choices about what we buy, we should choose wisely.
I will prefer an autentic boba tea with milk or fruit tea and fresh tapioca pearls than that canadian version with tons of sugar ,fruit punch and aditives tough 😅
yet he was talking about stealing from his culture when they had help from a taiwanese company to create it also he's Chinese so it isn't even his cultures drink to begin with
@@stop0pDude, I hate to break it to you, but Taiwan IS the Republic of China. Not the People's Republic of China (aka modern China), but still. About 90% of the population in both is Han.
the bobba thing is actually insane there is no way they said that they removed the ethic asian part in front of the asian guest they were potentially asking money from💀
Right like they did no research whatsoever on the history or origin of bubble tea, which is very sad. This could've been a huge opportunity for them to expand peoples horizons by showing some ounce of knowledge about the history, some Montrealers have basic knowledge about the product history. But, they didn't do that at all..
the way all the investors acted like an *asian man* was UNHINGED for taking issue with two white people saying “we took out all the *ethnicity* in this *asian* drink, now it’s healthier and yummier :))” ??? i can’t believe they had the audacity ?????
Yeah I felt for that guy, can't imagine someone taking a recipe like Naan, calling it "Naann" and telling everyone how dirty Naan is cause how unhygienic South Asians are :(
Wait until you realize the actor is from Chinese ethnicity and boba was invented in Taiwan. Getting offended on someone's else behalf is the greatest way to offend the party your trying to defend. This is like a Argentinean getting offended because someone made a taco differently just because they both Mexicans and Argentinean are considered Hispanic
people acting like simu was mad cause non-asian people were making an originally asian food product, and not the fact that said non-asian people were marketing their brand like they made some revolutionary new product, void of the "confusing asiany-ness" of original boba. there is nothing weird or mysterious about boba, and yet they make a point to say people don't know what's in it, and that it can finally be for everyone because it's not "ethnic" anymore. the racist undertones was crazy 💀
Yeah, this was hard to watch. Yikes! Oh lort!!! He just said "it's not ethnical anymore"!!? This is so racist I feel like I'm watching network TV in the 90's.
@@qwmxprobably, but with how its worded... Especially if they themselves want to make it less ethnical is either ignorant or racist. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they meant no harm, but i feel like its also true that these words are going to be interpreted as racist. Two things can be true at once.
the funniest part of Lucky Lees is that the food they're most likely referring to as being "unhealthy" is literally American Chinese food marketed towards Americans. when in fact a lot of Chinese people (particularly in villages) eat food with a heavy emphasis on medicinal properties and health benefits
Awhile ago I heard about the mooncake scandal in China. So when I hear about someone questioning the ingredients/quality I assume they're talking about China.
@@ellep2290 Oh you mean a mass-produced thing by a corporation that likely may have cheated a bit with their ingredients to preserve the food longer or make it taste better? Listen, I can engage with you in the assumption this is in good faith, but to say “I heard about mooncakes having issues so now I always assume a discussion about food with bad ingredients is about China” is pretty dumb. 1) _all_ corporations will cheat a little with their ingredients or use preservatives. That is what capitalism encourages, because the important thing under capitalism is to make more so you can sell more. Why hasn’t your brain decided American food has issues when taking into consideration that American food is often criticized as having a lot of sugar and/or fat? Just look at Coca-Cola. It’s not considered healthy because it’s a highly sugary drink, and capitalism has even made it so that poorer places like Mexico favour Coca-Cola so much it’s actually become a health concern because Coca-Cola is cheaper than water there. Or what about all the concerns a while ago with vegetable oils and how there could even be motor oil in some American foods? Or how there are literal differences between American cereal in America versus American cereal in Britain? Because if you look at Froot Loops in Britain, they’re far less colourful than Froot Loops being sold in America, and that’s because Britain literally has laws against some of the stuff America puts in its foods. There’s also recently been a giant recall of meat from the shelves, which happened partly because of bad things in the meat but also because the industry has basically been monopolized so even when you think you’re buying meat from a different company, in truth, it’s likely a company owned by the corporation with the issue, and a whole bunch of meat in America was apparently contaminated. Did you ever think, then, that American food has issues, and not just Chinese food?? Or is Chinese food just so foreign it’s easier to be concerned about Chinese food being poor quality than American food?? 2) mooncakes traditionally aren’t unhealthy. They’re just pastries. Some of them have red bean inside, some have meat, some have lotus paste, some have duck egg yolk, and some have nuts. None of that is inherently problematic on its own. Every year during the Mid-Autumn Festival, there are people who make their own mooncakes-particularly snowskin mooncakes-and they’re all fine. Any issue that may have occurred would have come from a large corporation that did what all corporations do under capitalism. It’s not a Chinese thing for a corporation to use ingredients that regular people may be concerned about. It’s a capitalist thing, because it’s a decision made for profit, which anyone from any country can do. This may be a surprise to you, but mooncakes are a large business and around the Mid-Autumn Festival holiday, they can be sold up to $40 for a high quality gift box of multiple mooncakes, so there are a lot of companies that will participate in making mooncakes, including from Hong Kong, mainland China, Singapore, and more. Maybe some of those companies will be problematic, but some of those companies will also be fine. Companies tend to use ingredients that can concern us, but the number of companies that will actually put you in harm’s way to the point you get sick consuming their product also isn’t as high as you think. And maybe you suspect the Chinese government is worse at maintaining quality than the American government, but as actual food industry issues have proven, any country can come to have food issues. 3) the person you are replying to is talking about Chinese _cooking._ Chinese people themselves, when cooking their meals, create relatively healthy dishes. There is a difference between Chinese food made by Chinese people for their families versus American-Chinese food made for the masses, which a) had to be made sweeter to appeal to Americans and b) has a lot more deep-fried food to appeal to the Americans. Plus even Chinese restaurants in China can vary greatly in quality from region to region. Shanghai has much lighter food than somewhere like Sichuan, which is known for its spices. And you may get an upset stomach after eating too much spicy food, but that doesn’t automatically make Sichuan food more unhealthy or that the ingredients in Sichuan dishes are somehow dirty. You simply cannot compare “regular cooking” (which is what the original commenter was referring to, and what many Chinese people actually eat during mealtime) with “mass-produced products” (which is what you were referring to with the mooncakes). If you really think “there were issues with mooncakes so all food issues must mean it’s about China,” then I think you need to reevaluate how you see and interact with the world, lest someone pick up on the prejudice that laces your assumptions.
I can somehow understand the pov from asian people however , I've seen the same thing made in Japan /Korea ...made with the food from my country (France) where they re taking our simplest pastries and filling them with what they d consider from their continent "matcha" for example , and you d see them frying them and making them even more unhealthy that they are already ☠️. The only difference is they are not saying they invented something new but...still...let's not make it like Asia doesn t have their frauds in food 😂
They did the same thing to Italian food. Actual Italian food: fresh produce and herbs, high quality meats and seafood, a reasonable amount of flavorful cheese, reasonable portions. Americanized "Italian" food: TEN POUNDS OF XXL CHEEZE PRODUCT IN A QUADRUPLE DEEP DISH.
Gotta love how the member of a marginalized community trying to explain how something is inappropriate is always put in the position of being the "killjoy." As if the fun the investors are having is more important than respecting their peer. This dynamic is widespread.
I have drank agua fresca for my whole life as a goku worshiping Mexican and seeing it be called "spa water" makes wanna genuinely scream it sounds like your drinking dirty water 🥲
I remember seeing “spa water” years ago on tiktok and all I was thinking was wtf is that shit and why can’t you just call it for what it is? It’s agua fresca, a refresher blended with water, fruits, veggies or flowers. Calling it spa water sounds barbaric because it just reminds me of those foot baths that they do for pedicures lmfao
As someone whose grasp of Spanish isn't even good beyond having gone to school and learning it, calling it spa water is just pure WTF. Agua fresca is a name that sounds drinkable but spa water just sounds like something meant to throw me in the ER or six feet under.
When I first got diagnosed with celiac disease (i cant eat gluten/wheat/etc) i was worried about having to clarify all the ingredients with my favorite small restaurants. After a few years though, its been the little old ladies with heavy accents who want to make sure im safe and fed, and the 'no-nonsense' burger joints that look at me like im crazy when i ask if if i can order a hot dog without a bun or tell me to mind my business if i ask if theres flour in the barbeque sauce. I feel like a lot of it is the increasing politicization of having ingredient lists/food regulations.
Allergies or illnesses that impose food restrictions are so often downplayed to a dangerous degree especially by restaurants. It's infuriating to see someone roll their eyes when you order something dairy or gluten free, cause for you it may look like a trend, but it can literally be the difference between life or death in severe cases.
@fardareismai4495 Exactly! The trendification of various special diets often ends up hurting the people who need them. I don't think it helps that I'm a young and slim white woman, but the main reason I'm as thin as I am is because I'm not able to get enough nutrients because my gut has been damaged!!
I have an aunt who was diagnosed with celiacs later in life, and a few years later her partner developed gut issues and couldn’t eat basically anything acidic or spicy. She’s one of the best chefs I’ve ever met, and visiting her made me realize just how much effort actually goes into making sure you avoid gluten cross contamination. I do feel bad when she comes to visit me, though, as the options for eating out basically begin and end at the really big reliable chains and on occasion indian places (though the acid/spice issues make that one difficult now). The issue is a server will usually say ‘yes’ to your request before they actually confirm its possible, and sometimes you’ve just gotta hope that a half assed ‘close enough’ job isn’t going on where even if the dish doesn’t have gluten they still have a cross-contamination cook environment.
I was at a Chinese restaurant in Watson Lake, Yukon and the Chinese lady asked if I had allergies even though I didn't give any particular indication that I was worried about allergies. I felt cared for!
@NekoChanSenpai most places have the black boba, various flavors of fruit flavored popping boba, and white Pearl boba. It varies from place to place but the popping boba have been around for years at this point
as an actual taiwanese person living in taiwan: no, we don't have popping boba tea here. To any Taiwanese person, popping boba tea is not what we call 珍珠奶茶, and it is insulting when foreigners don't try the original boba and deem it "unhealthy", just to create another product that is not boba at all and call it better. In Taiwan, all boba tea shops use brewed tea and milk. No shop I've ever visited used powders. side note: I genuinely don't understand the argument that boba is somehow more unhealthy than the western version of it. Traditional boba is made from starch powder cooked in brown sugar. literally no additives, you can make it at home. of course it's not exactly healthy because it's high in sugar and carbs, but most popping boba tea is also sugary and unhealthy in the same way. The difference in attitude just seems racially motivated.
I think they were claiming the western version (which sometimes use ingredients in powder form for convenience) is unhealthier, not the original tea served in TW, it's just that their wording was really bad.
Hi Canadian here (not from Quebec BTW I’m from Ontario) and honestly I actually prefer the traditional Tapioca Boba pearls over popping Boba. IDK I just never really liked the popping ones I like to chew on the pearls and the popping ones just aren’t all that satisfying to me in that regard.
@@caimanthechimera679 I tried popping boba in germany when i visited and it was the first time I realized that "boba" means different things in the west lol
I sometimes have popping boba just because I like how it feels in my mouth more but I usually just get aloe Vera in my drink because I’m not a huge fan of tapioca boba
@@caimanthechimera679 honestly I prefer the popping ones cause of the fruit flavoring. I like the normal ones but I prefer fruity drinks so I just get tired of them. If the places near me had chewy fruit flavours that's be great, cause I know that some do, but :p can't be
Honestly, if the Bobba people just marketed it as ready-to-drink, fruit flavoured bubble tea for those on the go, as well as talking about the alcoholic beverages not sold in most bubble tea shops, they wouldn't have had any issues. Lots of people would love bubble tea to drink on the go, where they can stock up on a few and carry them, without having to make an extra trip. Some places are too rural and small to get a proper bubble tea shop, and some people just dont have the time to stop and get a bubble tea, especially when some stores will have 15min line ups because theres only 2 people working and the line is going out the door. Plus, some of the flavour combos do sound pretty good.
A lot of the Asian groceries already have these types of drinks. I think the other grocery stores just need to know there is a demand for it. The sad thing is that most people won't try something new and Bobba washed it out enough to make it look more familiar to those who have never tried it. Smh
On that "bobba" sales pitch, literally all they had to say was "this is our version", they didn't have to go through all that effort to put down boba and claim they improved it or discovered something never seen before in the west. For one, that's a lie, and for two YES it's appropriation. If you say it's yours when it isn't or you say you made it better, that is by definition, appropriation. The fact people even had an argument about this is insane.
What really gets me is literally all they had to do was skim the wikipedia page for boba to know what they "discovered" had already been done for a good long while now, which leads me to wonder if they flat-out lied about inventing anything and expected it to slide. And nearly all the judges were actually *willing* to let it slide.
@@babowasalwayshere You all are listening to Edvasian's wrong interpretation instead of listening what these 2 persons actually said. And now they got canceled for literally nothing... 🤦♀️
I'm Asian, didn't really follow the whole thing, but from what you wrote here, that sounds like standard idea pitching. I get it's weird when culture is involved, but that's literally now most 'new and improved' pitch ideas go for....
@@shizukagozen777actually i watched the entire pitch and i think edvasian showed enough for people to get the point. nothing was taken out of context or anything. besides, he was nicer than other commentators have been. he literally gives them the benefit of the doubt by saying he didn’t think they were intending to be malicious and most likely struggled with their wording because english isn’t their first language. they pitched it poorly. idk why you’re acting like it’s his fault people have criticism. they paint original boba in a negative light and offer theirs as a better alternative. you have to be intentionally trying to miss everyone’s point by calling it “cancelling”
i COMPLETELY understand Simu's pov, its like with us Mexicans when people are like "omg i love mexican food, im always at Taco Bell and Chipotle" and its like, uhhhhhhhhhh thats 0% "Mexican" food, its appropriated stuff for people who dont know any better. Jack in the Box "Tacos" are not at all even close to real Mexican tacos lol BUT THERES AN AUDIENCE FOR EVERYTHING
@ por eso dije al final que hay gente para todo. El problema es cuando no explican que es "su version" o su interpretacion de algo. Aqui ellos dijeron, "esto es boba pero sin las cosas raras asiaticas que no sabes ni que son" y eso estuvo muy mal
An acquaintance from edge-of-nowhere Australia told me her local restaurant was serving an 'authentic Mexican' plate. It was the canned Hormel 'tamales', Rice-a-Roni rice, and Rosarita beans.
@@salmagtz7110 aun asi, no he visto ningun local que venda sushi, pizza, y otros platillos no originarios de México y los nombre "autentica comida" de su pais de origen, o digan que es mejor que el original
The whole bobba segment reminded me of when people on tiktok found out about edges and instead of calling it that, they acted like they created their own thing and called it.. "Sticky bangs".
OMG YOU REMEMBER THIS! I could've sworn I saw this, couldn't find it so I thought I imagined it😭 I dismissed my memory because I believed that nobody could have that type of audacity nowadays
"you're never quite sure about its content" is hilarious when it's just tea. Last I checked tea on a base level is just leaves, fruit sometimes, maybe milk and sugar, and water. 😂
Ok so question here cause I speak French too and learned English in my teenage years. Aren't québécois supposed to be practically bilingual? I'm confused as to why so many people are like "oh you should cut them some slack cause English isn't their first language". I thought all québécois new how to speak English well or at least have a really high comprehension of it. Maybe that's just silly assumptions like people thinking I automatically speak German and Italian too just because I'm Swiss 😅
"Ethnic but better" is like a safer option to experience other cultures for xenophobic people. Something new, but not too different. I sometimes laugh and sometimes get a bit mad when my culture gets misrepresented in a similar way.
I think once you try your personal ethnic food in a different country, you learn pretty quickly that it's not wise to asume said food is what the home country makes. I think the most frustrating can be when someone believes the customized version is what the nationals eat.
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat this is why I love when my coworker from South Korea shares food and recipes with me and a few others who love Korean food because she shows us the authentic recipes. And then she herself gets very excited to share her culture with her coworkers. Like teaching us New Years soup, and thats now what we plan to being to New Years potluck at work (among other things)
@@thatfuzzypotato1877 people say Korean/Japanese food is White adjacent and a good starting point for white people to explore, eventually considering Thai food or even Indian/Pakistani food
@@thatfuzzypotato1877 You realize you can just search up recipes in another language online, right? It's awesome you know someone that share's recipes, but sometimes I think people forget that the internet is global and auto page translations can let you find sources from the country quite easily.
they do this in Asia too, look up Yōshoku. People in other countries take things from aborad and adjust the tastes and names to fit the local people. People are just mad when white people do it because it's seen as fair game to attack white people now a days
It sounded like she was mostly just angry about the backlash, and didn't get why people were so mad about it, like she was ticked off they were bothering her about it.
Not knowing what's in your boba is a skill issue, tbh. Boba shops litterally encorage you to pick out every single component of the drink. "I'll have a small black sesame oolong milk tea with 10% of the normal sugar, tapioca pearls, and custard". What's in it? Milk, tea, one pump of simple syrup, tapioca pearls, custard, and ice.
Facts. At the very least, most boba is TEA plus MILK plus PEARLS OF YOUR CHOOSING plus syrup or flavored powder of your choosing. Like 🤦🏻♀️ most people could not tell you what is in coca cola.
lol right? Every boba place I’ve gone to in the last 5 years literally had a computer screen for you to pick every component down to the percentage of ice they put in
im a white dude but its pretty clear simu has a very valid point here, like im sure that indian woman would be offended if some white people came up and were like oh we made this indian curry but made it better !~
I know many Indian people, no they don't, they don't care, you know what actually offends them? people like you that assumes how everyone else feels about something or tell everyone else how they should feel. Indians have too many things to deal with to care about some person from the other side of the world say about their cuisine.
Have you ever had Japanese curry? It's basically Indian curry that got heavily filtered through _British_ food culture before somehow ending up in Japan... When I was a child many many years ago, there was a popular dish in my north European country (not the UK) called "hen with rice and curry" that had extremely few points in common with any kind of original curry. It was probably inspired by British curry. Fortunately, after people here started experiencing somewhat more authentic foreign cuisines, and got access to more fresh and varied ingredients from around the world, that dish fell into well-earned oblivion. But the first time I tried Japanese curry, something about it felt very familiar to me, though still infinitely tastier. Basically, the British took Indian curry and ruined it, and then the Japanese took British curry and improved it. Which somehow feels totally okay.
@@aprillen i think the difference with british curry (and subsequently japanese curry) was that it was made with mostly local ingredients available in britain, and thus change occured as a result. The same cannot be said about the Bobba drink.
@@aprillen whats your point? its hardly even relavant its not like the japanese created that curry as an investment oppurtunity they made it because they want to eat it.
I've been drinking Agua Fresca since I was a child in Mexico 1992. The use of cucumber and chia is an entirely American addition as they remained at the standard 3 flavors up until the late 2000s. It is not a good example to use because "Spa water" literally did effect the culture of Mexican drinks and nobody is up in arms about it. At no point in the video of the Mexican mother did she complain that it was appropriation, she just laughed at the "English" name. These Mexican mothers do go to spas, they do know what _Spa Water_ is, they're not just some isolated group that never intermingles with the rest of society. This argument is just bizarre to me as someone who has personally seen the cultural exchange in real time. I just wanted to present my perspective.
Yeah, there’s a lot of ways to add your own spin to something based on your own tastes (whether it be cultural or not). The idea that “international” food (I say international because, let’s be real, this doesn’t apply to American-born dishes) must be exactly as they were made in their home country is kind of crazy.
@@audreyiissnack54 This was a month ago, as I recall Spa Water was used as an example of being done disrespectfully when that is simply never been the case. Using a bad example hurts the video's thesis.
I also hate the name. Not only does it lack any creativity, you're completely right about the pronunciation. According to English pronunciation conventions, there is no way you get a long O sound. The double consonant indicates a short vowel. It's "Bob"-ba, like the name Bob. They've spelled it in a way that is doomed to be mispronounced.
I think what bothered me the most about the boba people on Dragons Den is that people were acting like Simu Liu’s take was just being a “too woke sjw” and mean, but his concerns were perfectly reasonable?? Frankly he has crazy good self control I would have gotten mad 😭 also watching culture being appropriated in real time has always been one of the most exhausting things about the internet cowboy caviar( pico de gallo) still haunts me
@@msjkrameyI’ve seen it jarred & including black beans and corn but afaik it isn’t a typical texmex thing, at least not by the name cowboy caviar (credentials for this are i grew up in tx lol)
Live in AZ and I’ve never once heard of “cowboy caviar”, wtf is that? I looked it up and it seems to be a bean salad with vinaigrette, no correlation to pico de gallo at all
They were trying to pitch it in English which they were obviously not well versed in. Funny, because normally you hear of the French making fun of others trying to speak French.
I’m also Chinese Canadian (wasian) and I got bullied so much for my lunch, even to the point of two boys form my class taking my bbq pork bun from my hands, tossing it around, and smelling and said it smells like dog sht and threw it into the pavement where I had go on my hands and knees, pick it up from the gravel and eat it from the ground, unable to take all the pebbles off. Dehumanizing is how it felt. It was a formative experience at age 9 that showed me how hateful kids and their parents can be from an early age. It made me hyper-aware of race, appearance, and the need to fit in. I also got bullied for my appearance since I had more Chinese features when I was a child. Now those same bullies are travelling to SE Asia to “find themselves” and have a spiritual awakening. I am no longer “ashamed” of my mom being a Chinese immigrant or eating congee and century egg, jellyfish salad, or bbq pork buns at school❤
That's horrible, I'm so sorry. I'm glad you can be proud of where you came from, which should be the normal now, but somehow we went from horrible prejudice against Asian cultures to mass appropriation. Not that indulging in other cultures and learning about them is a bad thing, but when it stems from the same ignorance as the original prejudice, it really can be just as harmful. Some Asian cultures (especially Japanese) also take inspiration from and adapt Western things as well, but we usually see it as endearing and cutesify it (which is a whole nother problem) so I assume that could be a reason for it being so common here.
I think the cherry on top for me is the fact that Manjit’s apology couldn’t have made it more obvious that it was scripted, she’s literally looking up to read it every second😭
People make bad jokes towards another race then when others feel uncomfortable which can be a type of racism to them, those people would say, oh it’s just joke, why so serious?
That's something a lot of the very old generation just does. Even when they're being very nice towards someone, they just grew up in an era where literally everyone said things like 'oriental' or 'colored'. And every single Hispanic person was 'Mexican'
@KC-2049I am Eastern European born in Western Europe and I can confirm your statment. People here do not even differentiate between Eastern European countries. Before the war in Ukraine, all Eastern Europeans were just called "Russian" by westerners. And everything east of Germany/Austria is called eastern, there is no central Europe for westerners.
All they meant to say is that instead of the chemical powders used to made bubble tea (yes, we don't know what's in these), they make a healthy version with mostly natural ingredients. You all want to hate on people way too much*, it's crazy. 🤦♀️
@@empressmarowynn So what ? I'm just upset that people talk shit and cancel people because they aren't capable of LISTENING to what they're saying. I'm also done with your cultural appropriation shit, it always only works one way with you all. 🤦♀️
@@shizukagozen777they already have bubble tea without powders. a huge amount of shops brew fresh tea and blend fresh fruits. they didn't even make a new product. they're saying they're better when they're at best the same thing lol
The problem was not that another ethnicity that is not asian is making boba, the problem was they were pitching boba like it was a problem that they are solving. In my opinion, they could've framed it as introducing boba to other ethnicities that might not know what it is or is hesitant in trying traditional asian flavors that might not be familiar to them by using more approachable flavors and opening the gates to pique interest in the traditional boba and even educating people about its origins and significance in asian culture.
Not shocked by what the two entrepreneurs said... I am from where they are in Canada and honestly there are a lot of people there that are not respectful of others culture but want people to respect theirs...
What I found with Canadians is they view themselves as better than Americans. They’re the “nice” country. A lot of Canadians really believe they’re not racist or that racism isn’t that bad in Canada bc America is so much more loud and aggressive with racism. So when Canadians are called out on their racism they are genuinely shocked and get defensive. It’s like how Europeans are towards the Romani people. They say they’re not racist like Americans but hate the Romani with a burning passion
Seeing Simu's reaction to Bobba... Lol They made boba tea sound like some mystery drink and kept digging their hole even deeper. And the other investors playing this made me shake my head
Sometimes I think people are too dumb to share cultures. I know a guy who spent 5 years to become fluent in Japanese to go to Japan and bar/club hop to try and find a kind caring stereotype Japanese wife. Like DUDE ITS BAR HOPPING YOURE NOT FINDING ANYONE YOUR AGE OR WIFE MATERIAL AT 3AM! 16:52 it gets particularly nasty in things like anime books manga and games. The “translators” will not actually translate the stuff make up lines then fight with fans and insist their version is better despite almost all of them being unable to read the original language without heavy assistance from google translate.
I learned Japanese to conversational fluency, and since I spend time in Japanese discord servers as well as English ones, I put a blurb in Japanese on my profile basically stating my preferred name transliteration since the one most people choose makes my otherwise normal name sound dicey af. This attracts _hella_ cringe. People trying to use Google translate to convince me they speak Japanese to hit on me, people pretending to be Japanese try to be my friend ("京都出身日本人ですよ。", is somehow absurdly commonly said by these types with various cities despite that fact that no actual Japanese speaks like that, it's like if we ended greetings with "please treat me well"), people demanding that I teach them Japanese for free then trying to publicly shame me when I decline, people getting mad that I learned Japanese but have no interest in Anime and trying to publicly shame me for that...
@@sucyshi I’m learning Japanese too, originally to watch anime fluently, but then I went to Japan and made some friends, and I want to go teach there when I’m done my education degree. The amount of people I’ve encountered that are exactly like you’ve described is INSANE. Not to mention those who insist j*p isn’t a slur… What is it about the Japanese language that attracts such cringe people? Like man, just let me learn and talk to my buddies.
@red2coreblue584 centuries of exoticizing a culture based on the belief of subservience. Then feeling powerless in a society where they have the power to the point of being able to exoticize others. And the entitlement that comes with others
Most of us here in Canada were not surprised that it was/are people from Quebec doing this. They knew exactly what they were doing and saying. They don't care and are only apologising because they got caught. People are shocked about what they said in English. But wouldn't put it past them that they are saying even more horrible things in French thinking people don't understand but a lot do.
the MSG stuff has always bothered me so much considering MSG is naturally occurring. surprise, there's been MSG in all of the tomato sauce you've ever eaten!
@katerrinah5442 actually, this is very explainable and unrelated to MSG! tomatoes and other citrus fruits are high in tyramine, which is a migraine trigger for many people. pickled and fermented foods are also high in tyramine and so they're also are commonly cited migraine triggers. it's actually the tyramine content of soy sauce, which is fermented, that is most likely giving your friend headaches! miso and fish sauce are also high in tyramine for the same reason. while the phenomenon of asian food causing headaches in tyramine-sensitive people is very much a real and somewhat common thing, it's the cultural fear surrounding MSG that leads to the misconception that it's the culprit.
@@katerrinah5442 Same and not when I eat tomatoes or other citrus fruits. It's only MSG. People who don't understand, did not research, and lack empathy generally tend to ignore peoples' complaints with food ingredients. They don't WANT to know so they project as if the other person is an idiot.
This whole presentation was wild - they could have just marketed as being able to have boba at home or on the go. Literally anything else other than what they actually said/presented. And everyone else on the panel who gave him grief (talk about micro aggressions) simply because they didn’t want to hear a different opinion.
Back in the day people were racist. That day was yesterday. Bobba's fundamental mistake was not calling their products a "Fusion Boba" drink. It's not what it is, it is how you sell it.
Literally saying that "you don't know what's in it!!!" when some of the ingredients of a Bobba drink are the trademark vague "natural and artificial flavors" and (squints) sodium metaphosphate and sodium carboxymethyl cellulose (I'm assuming they're for the popping boba part but like bestie without googling I have no idea what that is!!!)
And ironically, these preservatives and thickeners are likely to make the boba texture more palatable to regions that would find regular boba displeasing.
Just a heads up, historians are fairly certain that the "Chinese Food Syndrome" originated as a joke. It first appeared in a segment of a medical journal that was known for doctors writing in satirical illnesses. Didn't see this perusing the comments and it's important context that is often lost.
@@LagrangePoint0 Yeah! I first heard it described in a video deep diving into MSG and was shocked because my mom is one of very few people that MSG legitimately affects (similar to how there are a few people who legitimately get sick from sulfates). It's a 1968 letter in the New England Journal of Medicine written in by "Robert Ho Man Kwok" and iirc a couple different people have claimed to have been the writer since. I'd recommend Adam Ragusea's video if you're interested.
I think some people do have real problems, but it is just a sodium problem rather than msg being bad, especially when they are consuming a lot of sodium in a buffet. Same way that sugar is not poisonous, but some people may have trouble with it because their body cannot handle certain simple sugars.
I'm confused as to how fruity juices with popping boba are 'disrupting the market' and 'removing the ethnic side' of the product considering that you can get those exact drinks in every asian-run boba shop I know here in Scotland and have been able to for years.
These ppl just wanna complain about “racism”. And those guys are ppl who suck at English, they’re gonna sound weird when explaining. And nobody is saying it’s bad that boba is ethnic, it’s just unhealthy from the amount of sugar, they tried to make a less unhealthy version.
Im pretty sure the young entrepreneurs said something about removing the ethnicity which is where the controversy started,reply the vid and pay attention to the young entrepreneurs when they were explaining their product
I can literally go down the street to grab a mango slushy with strawberry popping boba in Los Angeles, and they are saying they are making an innovative product.
@@Yumi_officall what the commenter is saying is that they didn't remove any ethnicity or change it in any way even though they think they did, fruit juice and fruit tea are very often in bubble tea so they didn't actually remove any ethnicity as they were claiming they did
@@onedirectioninfection5756 They never claimed that, they only claimed to make a healthier version with natural ingredients instead of the chemical powders used to make normal bubble teas ! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Honestly as someone with AN INSANE msg sensitivity the worst I ever get is nausea and a headache…THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR THEM GETTING THOSE SYMPTOMS IS THAT THEY ARE SNORTING THAT SH- 😭
Probably they ate as much as physically possible and then guessed why they felt bad and bloated the next day. Probably the MSG? No! That's because you ate a portion of food for five people only by yourself!
THIS. It's like a coin flip when I have pasta because of the red sauce. It's in tomatoes. I love mushrooms. Chicken marsala might slap me in the face. I have to eat a lot of it or be very, very unlucky. At the same time... I'd rather MSG be in it because I've got blood pressure that's a little iffy and you're going to be putting more salt to compensate and I'm gotta get a nasty headache CONFIRMED instead of a "maybe".
I misspoke. I meant to say migraine, because headaches and migraines are NOT THE SAME and I’m pretty sure headaches don’t make you so sick you vomit every two-three hours lol
It's honestly interesting how similar things happen even within Asia - a few years ago, this cafe in Singapore (run by Chinese Singaporeans who form the majority here) tried to market a "healthier" version of a minority dish, just "without the nasties" which of course, sparked much discourse
💀💀💀 After having lived in the Middle East for over two decades, I cringe at what is referred to as Middle Eastern food being offered at restaurants in Canada. It’s a generic version of what it’s like if described to someone who’s never tried it by someone who vaguely remembers having it once.
@@victorchen9170 the food is usually made for western the palate. Just think of Taco Bell compared to actual Mexican cuisine. The difference is night and day.
I grew up in a primarily Mexican populated area, with a very established culture. Most people who did not look super Hispanic where mixed like myself. But there was also a lot of Filipino people in my neighborhood so I also grew up around that culture. When I moved to a very country town as a young teenager I was baffled to hear the things I thought normal where in fact, not normal among the people who live there. I got called "exotic" once. But most people meant well and where genuinely curious and exited to learn about my culture. But I still come across some racist remarks unfortunately even when it comes to the food which gets very similar "But the things in it are questionable" remarks. ALSO, calling agua frescas "spa water" made me die laughing.
I’m Mexican and I was called exotic… IN TEXAS 😭😭😭 1 that’s gross don’t call me that 2 im like the least exotic person here what ??? Texas has mostly Mexicans 😭
Their pitch sounds like the "MSG scare" of my childhood all over again 😂 edit: should have waited a few more minutes for edvasian to talk about this before posting 😂
In elementary I was one of the only three asians at school. The other two guys were Japanese and Korean, I'm Filipino. I wasn't asian enough to be asian cos I was browner and didn't use chopsticks. Very memory 💀
Tbh, Filipinos feel more akin to Mexicans than Asians. Make an Asian speak spanish and he'll still look Asian, make a Filipino speak spanish and he'll look the part
I’m Indonesian and I’ve noticed that all throughout school and college, other Asians who just had lighter skin than me were treated far better than my brother and I. We were fortunate enough to go to Disney World for marching band my freshman year and I will never forget how my brother got pulled aside for a “random security check” in three different parks - because he “looked suspicious”. He was just wearing sunglasses and had darker skin than everyone else in the band.
@@dontmindmefangirling3123 Filipino culture is actually quite closely aligned to LatAm culture because of the extended time they spent as a Spanish colony. A lot of their original culture and language was destroyed, and replaced by Spanish culture and language
If they hadn't called it "bobba" and saying they removed the "ethnical" part, this would be a hit. However that's several layers of yikes. They could have even called the drink Bob and said it was inspired by the Tiawanese drink Boba and it would have been a hit
Yes absolutely I have seen quite a lot I people and conservative channels acting he is super woke and calling him hypocrit bcs him being chinese he played korean characters
They've had canned boba tea and fruit boba tea for quite some time. Also some people got kinoko cha(a type of fermented tea) confused with kombu cha (kelp tea) and that's why it's call kombucha here even though it doesn't contain any kombu.
The same goes for Middle Eastern food. I hate the " make it better" approach, which means making it bland or Western. And yes, I don't mind changing a bit in the ingredients to make it a lil different, but watch what you say about the food. It might be just "food" in your eyes, but it's our culture. 👍
I'm Turkish. I don't identify as Middle Eastern but yeah, ironically the "Turkish food" they sell in EU tastes even worse than in Turkiye. For example. there's eating "döner kebap" in Turkiye, and then there's eating "doner kebab" in EU. The latter tastes too dry (probably because of EU regulations?) and sometimes even extremely spicy (because of how many of those store owners are not Turkish and probably never even been to the country, they are usually South Asian). I tried this "famous" doner kebab in many different places and all of them were frankly very dry and bland in taste. So I have no idea how they even improved it XD I find it difficult how many of my foreign friends whose whole experience with eating "Turkish kebap" is just eating those dry and tasteless meats and think that is delicious. If it was not for Italians, I'd go hungry in EU. Thanks again to our fellow Mediterraneans for making proper food. ------ Edititng this comment because I am not going to answer all the triggered certain Northerners here anymore. XD Like, I find it hilarious that the only people attacking to me over here are Northerners (probably over "I'd starve if not for Italians" part), because I never said their food was bad, they just jumped into assumptions, and it was also only Northerners, not other cultures either. I think this shows they are the ones who subconsciously believe their cuisine is bad. As for people from other cultures, I'd like to clarify that I am not a picky eater, and I enjoy other cultures foods as well. I specified Italians/Mediterraneans, because Mediterranean cuisine(s) is what I grew up with. Plus, when I try other cultures foods (South American etc) they also tasted bland here, except for Italians (and Spanish). I didn't go to French restaurants because most were out of my budget. I think it is because of EU regulations, so the food coming from the outside of EU tastes different than the home country. Italy and Spain are in the EU, so their food tastes more accurate to the source, although admittedly, they taste the best in their own respective countries.
@@hushingraxacoricofallapoto3405Have you tried foods from other ethnic backgrounds? Like maybe Latin American or Caribbean foods? I’m sure there’s others out there like the Italian restaurants. You should give it a go.
@@hushingraxacoricofallapoto3405 I don't know what you're on about, Döner kebab in Germany is very good in very many places. There are so many Döner places that of course, there are bad ones as well, but Döner in Germany is generally good, it's a national favorite food, and the vast majority of stalls/restaurants are run by Turkish guys. Also need to note what is called "Döner Kebab" in Germany is not the same product you get in Turkey. The name only refers to one specific sandwich dish, which was created by Turks in Germany and differs from the versions in Turkey. Over the years, this has become its own thing with its own standards. As for how the dish in the bread was improved, I heard that Turks in Germany were the first to put Cacik in the sandwich. The sauce is a key ingredient in the Döner version from Germany. A "German" Döner has the following ingredients: Bread, meat, onion, tomato/cucumber, lettuce, cabbage, sauce, pul biber. Döner in Turkey has a much bigger focus on the meat and is often just meat with a bit of bread or veggies on the side. Döner in Germany is about the composition of the sandwich, not just about the meat alone. As you can see, many people in Germany are very passionate about Döner (sandwich). If you eat Döner in Germany expecting one of the dished you eat in Turkey, ofc you will be disappointed, because it is not even the same dish.
Like a lot of chefs say, don't try to make a dish more healthy (there is a reason it's made this way in the first place), just eat a healthier dish like salad more often and have that hearty, less healthy dish on special occasions.
There are already many brands and cafe chains that sell products similar to Bobba. Also, “boba” is just what we call the tapioca pearls (purely optional and can be changed at customer’s discretion). It’s just tea and milk. You can use a dairy substitute and control the level of sugar, which is already offered by many brands.
Boba is just the name of their brand. 🙄 And about the rest, no, bubble teas aren't just "tea and milk", they mix all sorts of powders to give some flavors to the beverage, and that's what they meant by "we don't know what's in them". And they're right, we DON'T know what's in these chemical powders ! 🤦♀️
@@shizukagozen777depends on the places you go. There are boba places that use powders, there are also those that use actual brewed tea/coffee and other natural fruit juices. Again, it's very common and has been done before. They could have just pitched the product as their own take on boba drinks with natural juices that contain vitamins and antioxidants and offer up new interesting flavors instead.
@@shizukagozen777so many boba shops do not use powders in their drinks. None of the shops in Taiwan uses powder now. It is always tea, fruit, dairy, or some other natural ingredient.
@@shizukagozen777 ?? Have you ever even been to a boba shop because I've never seen them use powders. It's literally tea or juice with milk. They make it in front of you. 🤦♀
Mysterious = we don't know what's exactly inside what we purchase. Bubble teas are made with various sorts of powders to give some flavors to the milk. We don't know what these powders are made of, therefore they're "mysterious". 🤦♀️
@@mhawang8204 Excuse me but in most countries, all you can find are bubble teas made with powders. You all are way too gullible about what you drink or eat or you are very lucky that your local shops have healthy alternatives but keep in mind that if that's cheap, that ain't healthy ! The main difference is the quality of their powders and the teas. It doesn't mean that they don't use powders...
as soon as I heard about all the symptoms people were reporting after eating MSG… have they considered. drinking more water? because MSG is basically salt on steroids so you need a lot more water to balance it out. I grew up with this knowledge but for people who might only eat western Chinese food rarely, it's not something you know intuitively.
I feel this video so much man, all these "pancake" videos claiming that they invented something new while it's just old german/austrian recipes like Kaiserschmarrn or Apfelräderl
Or bread...i remember when americans were baking rye bread, acting like they invented it. There is a Video somewhere were some US channel was talking about countries and the bread they were famous for...americans got rye bread and germany got Bagels...Bagels...😂. There are a lot of people in germany who dont even know what bagels are but we are famous for it? Americans get rye bread even though they are most famous for toast...amazing.
I hate how the other dragons were putting him down. I get that you want to make your money but part of the money-making process is identifying how the public will react to it. It doesn’t matter if 5 people think it’s a good idea, will the people being sold the product think it’s a good idea?
It was sad to see some non-Asian TH-camr saying Simu was being a SJW or woke on this. Like, they aren’t Asian and haven’t live through Asian hate or cultural appropriation and decided to way in. Glad Simu pointed out how their pitch was so wrong.
Oh my god I made the same face as Simu Liu when that idiot Bobba salespersom said "not enthnical anymore" that's so crazy!! Thank god he was there for that pitch
This left me speechless. A sugary drink that you don’t know what’s in it?? Huh? Yes we have BOBA in Australia. We’re neighbours with Asia. My second hand embarrassment os so strong. The ‘not an ethnical product anymore’ did my head in Yes sharing cultures is so much fun. But watching people eat vegemite off a spoon isn’t. Please stop and do it properly. There’s plenty of tutorials on TH-cam including one from hugh Jackman
I imagine the taiwanese people who invented bubble tea would be more irked about mainlanders deciding how the product has to be marketed than the gatekeeping insecurities of some banana from toronto
If there would have been even small changes like "something like african, but better" or "something like middle eastern but better" the episode wouldn't even be aired
Lol yeah because black culture never gets appropriated 🙄... It's just that in our case no one ever knows about it and just calls it 'young people culture/tik tok culture/some random white celeb's idea'... Just our hairstyles alone which have very important meanings or are representing our beliefs or tragic history are being worn as trends and accessories by every Becky ever... Also, why you gotta bring other races into it and pitting them against each other? You're just being equally racist.
I’m from Quebec and I feel so much secondhand CRINGE AND EMBARRASSMENT from that Bobba part AAAAAH 😭😭 Unfortunately, I am so not surprised by this: when you step outside of Montreal, there is little to no ethnical/cultural variety and the farther away you go, the worse it gets :’)) I think people often tend to be just ignorant about such issues. What saddens me though is they don’t take the time to inform themselves and they say shit like this and it’s just downright disrespectful 😞
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“He forgot his pumpkin pie. Can you bring it to him sugar?” Immediately going from “wHOA” in the sentence before to “aww” because the lunch lady just wanted him to get his slice of pie was WILD. She’s got the spirit just not the vocabulary 😭
She could’ve just posted text… reading that apology off was so robotic and she didn’t address her comments during taping or how she treated Simu at all
@@stop0p saying she "wasn't in the wrong" when she was being passively racist is kinda shitty ngl. The way she spoke over Simu and regarded his concerns as if they were too much was off color at best.
6:07 "and you're never quite sure about its content" .........tea, water, tapioca, milk&sugar or just condensed milk, some places have vegan versions with blended fruit or unmilk like oat or soy?? guessing off the top of my head
I'm sure the Canadians had that dumb pitch because they assumed there wouldn't be an asian person as a judge. The producers set both the judge and the contestants up for maximum drama so every dumb tiktoker and youtuber would be talking about it. Don't get me wrong, their pitch was dumb as hell and deserved to be called out, but let's not pretend that this wasn't manufactured drama from producers, which ALSO should be called out
Your theory just makes it worse... I'm guessing they wanted Simu because they assumed he'd be more familiar with the product and a better judge of quality than the other judges. Not because they assumed the entrepreneurs would say weird racist shit because they thought they were safe. Shark Tank does the exact same thing with their guest sharks and afaik I've never seen other entrepreneurs say this kind of shit
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The Boba tea thing is crazy because tapioca comes from the new world and they couldn't even have it without the new world.
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" Spa water " sounds like water from foot wash before entering the massage area
14:00 Hi Ed, the research isn't necessarily "shoddy", it's only testing to see what side effects the salt could potentially induce. It has nothing to do with the likelihood or concentration necessary to induce toxicity!
The phrase "You know that popular drink, but you're never quite sure what's in it?" was like 90% of the problem with their pitch. They could've just admitted that they like boba and they wanted to do their own spin on it without the shady Asian panic in the first sentence.
Tea? Tapioca? Fructose and xanthan gum which isn't that fun but I absolutely know what that is? Labels I can easily read with my basic education level?
I have to agree with this. Like, "You know that popular drink, but you're not familiar with the ingredients in it?" would have been a much more neutral way to put it, I believe.
100% could have used better approach. I've had store-bought canned popping bobas since years ago and it actually tasted closer to artificial sweeteners and preservatives than fresh-made boba drinks. Health-wise, taste-wise, and customable-wise, I prefer fresh than canned. But the canned boba costs less, doesn't require standing in line and speaking to an employee as it's sold in convenient stores, and can be left stored longer.
It would make more sense if they had pitched the product as inspired by the conventional bubble milktea that a lot of people enjoyed but with a package designed to appeal towards a different market that enjoys canned drinks. Because the initial drink is already enjoyable (and arguably healthier than its canned variant would be), but there's a potential to reach out towards this other market that doesn't typically buy freshly-made boba drinks.
Literally they couldev marketed it on convenience or even "live in an area without those shops?"
Yepp!
there are so many boba shops that serve freshly brewed high quality tea and for them to claim theirs is "healthier" is so incredulous to me. u want a healthier tea? dont add pearls or milk or syrups in it. at least the pearls in quality boba shops are made fresh and in front of you. that being said, canned boba has always existed and this is neither exciting nor new.
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Yes probably to some health conscious and diabetes patients it's can be unhealthy im not Taiwanese but as an Asian in globisation era we also sell use western products or food but we don't claim we invented it if they worded there pitch differently it would've been better
In the particular bubble tea menu item I like getting near me, the only sugar is in the pearls, sweetening the drink just enough to not be bitter from extra strong tea.
Almost all boba tea shops offer varying levels of sugar, too. Those bobba people are just racist. I live in Québec and I'm unfortunately very familiar with this kind of fear of "ethnical" stuff. Fortunately I live in the city of Montréal where we tend to be more culturally mixed, but I have family in Québec city and there's a real paranoia about anyone not "pur laine"
@@forest_green They seem innocently insensitive or unaware, not racist. I don't blame people for being unfamiliar with my cultural foods (I'm not into forcing people to try eating unborn ducks or marinated chicken feet). We shouldn't be guilting people into trying other food. I think empathizing with those like them will go a long way, it's just a business pitch and change the wording to "we don't know what's in [name of western food]" and you'll realise how not racist it is. I've seen this pitch being done for western food like western baby food (or something to that effect for organic baby food), it's much more common thing than we all think. I remember advertisements in my country actually pulling that good'ol "no mystery preservatives" crap for food targetted to school aged children 20 years ago.
However if you think it's racist, that's fine, I thought I'll share a perspective here.
You can pin the exact moment Simu thinks "oh so this is racist" and he definitely makes that sentiment known. It's crazy how he kind of says it outright-- extremely professionally-- and it just gets brushed off.
It’s also just wild to try and make it “not Asian” like I’m sorry you’re scared of Asians but the rest of us aren’t and quite enjoy the authentic experience even if we’re not Asian ourselves lol
My first reaction when they said *you're never quite sure about it's content* about bubble tea was *wow they just insulted an Asian drink to a prospective Asian investor, they will definitely not get his money*
So much respect for Simu to speak up and call out such behaviour. If he hadn't, it would further normalize the notion this kind of insulting/stealing is okay.
And they don't care because they don't think they need it with other investors on the panel. And that's why, if we can afford to make choices about what we buy, we should choose wisely.
I will prefer an autentic boba tea with milk or fruit tea and fresh tapioca pearls than that canadian version with tons of sugar ,fruit punch and aditives tough 😅
yet he was talking about stealing from his culture when they had help from a taiwanese company to create it also he's Chinese so it isn't even his cultures drink to begin with
@@stop0pDude, I hate to break it to you, but Taiwan IS the Republic of China. Not the People's Republic of China (aka modern China), but still. About 90% of the population in both is Han.
the bobba thing is actually insane there is no way they said that they removed the ethic asian part in front of the asian guest they were potentially asking money from💀
Tapioca comes from Brazil...
Right like they did no research whatsoever on the history or origin of bubble tea, which is very sad. This could've been a huge opportunity for them to expand peoples horizons by showing some ounce of knowledge about the history, some Montrealers have basic knowledge about the product history. But, they didn't do that at all..
@@Gibon123_ Srry I don’t understand, I had a heart attack reading this lol.
@@Gibon123_no clue what you are yapping about
@@Gibon123_ can you spout your bullshit in english please? nobody knows what the hell you're saying.
the way all the investors acted like an *asian man* was UNHINGED for taking issue with two white people saying “we took out all the *ethnicity* in this *asian* drink, now it’s healthier and yummier :))” ??? i can’t believe they had the audacity ?????
yeah Im angry at all of them. If a POC person in your group brings something like this up you listen and support them. Its literally basic respect.
Yeah I felt for that guy, can't imagine someone taking a recipe like Naan, calling it "Naann" and telling everyone how dirty Naan is cause how unhygienic South Asians are :(
Wait until you realize the actor is from Chinese ethnicity and boba was invented in Taiwan. Getting offended on someone's else behalf is the greatest way to offend the party your trying to defend. This is like a Argentinean getting offended because someone made a taco differently just because they both Mexicans and Argentinean are considered Hispanic
@ cool? Don’t care.
i know! that woman in the purple pantsuit not letting him talk set me over the edge 😭😭
people acting like simu was mad cause non-asian people were making an originally asian food product, and not the fact that said non-asian people were marketing their brand like they made some revolutionary new product, void of the "confusing asiany-ness" of original boba. there is nothing weird or mysterious about boba, and yet they make a point to say people don't know what's in it, and that it can finally be for everyone because it's not "ethnic" anymore. the racist undertones was crazy 💀
Yeah, this was hard to watch. Yikes!
Oh lort!!! He just said "it's not ethnical anymore"!!? This is so racist I feel like I'm watching network TV in the 90's.
Because they weren't. They were trying to "put a new spin" on Boba tea.
Probably tell them to phrase it better. @@qwmx
The hatred for Simu Liu is what led to the backlash
@@qwmxprobably, but with how its worded... Especially if they themselves want to make it less ethnical is either ignorant or racist. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they meant no harm, but i feel like its also true that these words are going to be interpreted as racist. Two things can be true at once.
the funniest part of Lucky Lees is that the food they're most likely referring to as being "unhealthy" is literally American Chinese food marketed towards Americans. when in fact a lot of Chinese people (particularly in villages) eat food with a heavy emphasis on medicinal properties and health benefits
Awhile ago I heard about the mooncake scandal in China. So when I hear about someone questioning the ingredients/quality I assume they're talking about China.
@@ellep2290 Oh you mean a mass-produced thing by a corporation that likely may have cheated a bit with their ingredients to preserve the food longer or make it taste better?
Listen, I can engage with you in the assumption this is in good faith, but to say “I heard about mooncakes having issues so now I always assume a discussion about food with bad ingredients is about China” is pretty dumb.
1) _all_ corporations will cheat a little with their ingredients or use preservatives. That is what capitalism encourages, because the important thing under capitalism is to make more so you can sell more.
Why hasn’t your brain decided American food has issues when taking into consideration that American food is often criticized as having a lot of sugar and/or fat?
Just look at Coca-Cola. It’s not considered healthy because it’s a highly sugary drink, and capitalism has even made it so that poorer places like Mexico favour Coca-Cola so much it’s actually become a health concern because Coca-Cola is cheaper than water there.
Or what about all the concerns a while ago with vegetable oils and how there could even be motor oil in some American foods?
Or how there are literal differences between American cereal in America versus American cereal in Britain? Because if you look at Froot Loops in Britain, they’re far less colourful than Froot Loops being sold in America, and that’s because Britain literally has laws against some of the stuff America puts in its foods.
There’s also recently been a giant recall of meat from the shelves, which happened partly because of bad things in the meat but also because the industry has basically been monopolized so even when you think you’re buying meat from a different company, in truth, it’s likely a company owned by the corporation with the issue, and a whole bunch of meat in America was apparently contaminated.
Did you ever think, then, that American food has issues, and not just Chinese food?? Or is Chinese food just so foreign it’s easier to be concerned about Chinese food being poor quality than American food??
2) mooncakes traditionally aren’t unhealthy. They’re just pastries.
Some of them have red bean inside, some have meat, some have lotus paste, some have duck egg yolk, and some have nuts.
None of that is inherently problematic on its own.
Every year during the Mid-Autumn Festival, there are people who make their own mooncakes-particularly snowskin mooncakes-and they’re all fine.
Any issue that may have occurred would have come from a large corporation that did what all corporations do under capitalism.
It’s not a Chinese thing for a corporation to use ingredients that regular people may be concerned about. It’s a capitalist thing, because it’s a decision made for profit, which anyone from any country can do.
This may be a surprise to you, but mooncakes are a large business and around the Mid-Autumn Festival holiday, they can be sold up to $40 for a high quality gift box of multiple mooncakes, so there are a lot of companies that will participate in making mooncakes, including from Hong Kong, mainland China, Singapore, and more.
Maybe some of those companies will be problematic, but some of those companies will also be fine.
Companies tend to use ingredients that can concern us, but the number of companies that will actually put you in harm’s way to the point you get sick consuming their product also isn’t as high as you think.
And maybe you suspect the Chinese government is worse at maintaining quality than the American government, but as actual food industry issues have proven, any country can come to have food issues.
3) the person you are replying to is talking about Chinese _cooking._ Chinese people themselves, when cooking their meals, create relatively healthy dishes.
There is a difference between Chinese food made by Chinese people for their families versus American-Chinese food made for the masses, which a) had to be made sweeter to appeal to Americans and b) has a lot more deep-fried food to appeal to the Americans.
Plus even Chinese restaurants in China can vary greatly in quality from region to region.
Shanghai has much lighter food than somewhere like Sichuan, which is known for its spices. And you may get an upset stomach after eating too much spicy food, but that doesn’t automatically make Sichuan food more unhealthy or that the ingredients in Sichuan dishes are somehow dirty.
You simply cannot compare “regular cooking” (which is what the original commenter was referring to, and what many Chinese people actually eat during mealtime) with “mass-produced products” (which is what you were referring to with the mooncakes).
If you really think “there were issues with mooncakes so all food issues must mean it’s about China,” then I think you need to reevaluate how you see and interact with the world, lest someone pick up on the prejudice that laces your assumptions.
I can somehow understand the pov from asian people however , I've seen the same thing made in Japan /Korea ...made with the food from my country (France) where they re taking our simplest pastries and filling them with what they d consider from their continent "matcha" for example , and you d see them frying them and making them even more unhealthy that they are already ☠️. The only difference is they are not saying they invented something new but...still...let's not make it like Asia doesn t have their frauds in food 😂
They did the same thing to Italian food. Actual Italian food: fresh produce and herbs, high quality meats and seafood, a reasonable amount of flavorful cheese, reasonable portions. Americanized "Italian" food: TEN POUNDS OF XXL CHEEZE PRODUCT IN A QUADRUPLE DEEP DISH.
@ellep2290 that's a completely different situation in its entirety. These two convos have basically nothing to do with each other
Gotta love how the member of a marginalized community trying to explain how something is inappropriate is always put in the position of being the "killjoy." As if the fun the investors are having is more important than respecting their peer. This dynamic is widespread.
That’s unfortunately and legitimately American Law. Companies’ genuine legal responsibilities are to the investors and shareholders.
"Asian food is gross and unhealthy"
>Sounds good, please continue
"I found it kinda weird when you said [quoting above]"
>WOAH BUDDY
I have drank agua fresca for my whole life as a goku worshiping Mexican and seeing it be called "spa water" makes wanna genuinely scream it sounds like your drinking dirty water 🥲
As a mixed European, I just imagine a couple of tiny little naked people just chilling in it 😂
I remember seeing “spa water” years ago on tiktok and all I was thinking was wtf is that shit and why can’t you just call it for what it is? It’s agua fresca, a refresher blended with water, fruits, veggies or flowers. Calling it spa water sounds barbaric because it just reminds me of those foot baths that they do for pedicures lmfao
spa water sounds sophisticated to the same demographic of people (usually white women) that like starbucks and boba and "chai tea"
As someone whose grasp of Spanish isn't even good beyond having gone to school and learning it, calling it spa water is just pure WTF. Agua fresca is a name that sounds drinkable but spa water just sounds like something meant to throw me in the ER or six feet under.
That's exactly what I thought "spa water" sounds like you scooped up the water from a spa and sell it 😭
This is like if someone put milk in a jar, named it "Millk" and called themselves innovators
I got some bottles of the honey in bear shape from the store let’s make millions by calling it honney
These will go great with my new product, Buhredd!
what to do, "genius" businessmen are always trying to reinvent the wheel
Malk, now with Vitamin R.
That'd be a great way to fuck with racist white Europeans since it'd give them a taste of their own medicine xD
When I first got diagnosed with celiac disease (i cant eat gluten/wheat/etc) i was worried about having to clarify all the ingredients with my favorite small restaurants. After a few years though, its been the little old ladies with heavy accents who want to make sure im safe and fed, and the 'no-nonsense' burger joints that look at me like im crazy when i ask if if i can order a hot dog without a bun or tell me to mind my business if i ask if theres flour in the barbeque sauce. I feel like a lot of it is the increasing politicization of having ingredient lists/food regulations.
Allergies or illnesses that impose food restrictions are so often downplayed to a dangerous degree especially by restaurants. It's infuriating to see someone roll their eyes when you order something dairy or gluten free, cause for you it may look like a trend, but it can literally be the difference between life or death in severe cases.
@fardareismai4495 Exactly! The trendification of various special diets often ends up hurting the people who need them. I don't think it helps that I'm a young and slim white woman, but the main reason I'm as thin as I am is because I'm not able to get enough nutrients because my gut has been damaged!!
I have an aunt who was diagnosed with celiacs later in life, and a few years later her partner developed gut issues and couldn’t eat basically anything acidic or spicy. She’s one of the best chefs I’ve ever met, and visiting her made me realize just how much effort actually goes into making sure you avoid gluten cross contamination. I do feel bad when she comes to visit me, though, as the options for eating out basically begin and end at the really big reliable chains and on occasion indian places (though the acid/spice issues make that one difficult now).
The issue is a server will usually say ‘yes’ to your request before they actually confirm its possible, and sometimes you’ve just gotta hope that a half assed ‘close enough’ job isn’t going on where even if the dish doesn’t have gluten they still have a cross-contamination cook environment.
A food intolerance? What are you, a communist? /s
I was at a Chinese restaurant in Watson Lake, Yukon and the Chinese lady asked if I had allergies even though I didn't give any particular indication that I was worried about allergies. I felt cared for!
popping bubble tea has been around for ages.. they didnt even make something new..
What other kind is there?
@NekoChanSenpai most places have the black boba, various flavors of fruit flavored popping boba, and white Pearl boba. It varies from place to place but the popping boba have been around for years at this point
@@NekoChanSenpai I love tapioca popping boba in green milk tea, so freaking good!
@@SPMunnyI was literally drinking popping boba 18+ years ago, and I live in Ohio. I like it better than the chewy boba, but both are good!
@@jiru331
They never pretended to make something new, all they did was to make bubble tea with healthy ingredients. 🤦♀️
as an actual taiwanese person living in taiwan: no, we don't have popping boba tea here. To any Taiwanese person, popping boba tea is not what we call 珍珠奶茶, and it is insulting when foreigners don't try the original boba and deem it "unhealthy", just to create another product that is not boba at all and call it better.
In Taiwan, all boba tea shops use brewed tea and milk. No shop I've ever visited used powders.
side note: I genuinely don't understand the argument that boba is somehow more unhealthy than the western version of it. Traditional boba is made from starch powder cooked in brown sugar. literally no additives, you can make it at home. of course it's not exactly healthy because it's high in sugar and carbs, but most popping boba tea is also sugary and unhealthy in the same way. The difference in attitude just seems racially motivated.
I think they were claiming the western version (which sometimes use ingredients in powder form for convenience) is unhealthier, not the original tea served in TW, it's just that their wording was really bad.
Hi Canadian here (not from Quebec BTW I’m from Ontario) and honestly I actually prefer the traditional Tapioca Boba pearls over popping Boba. IDK I just never really liked the popping ones I like to chew on the pearls and the popping ones just aren’t all that satisfying to me in that regard.
@@caimanthechimera679 I tried popping boba in germany when i visited and it was the first time I realized that "boba" means different things in the west lol
I sometimes have popping boba just because I like how it feels in my mouth more but I usually just get aloe Vera in my drink because I’m not a huge fan of tapioca boba
@@caimanthechimera679 honestly I prefer the popping ones cause of the fruit flavoring. I like the normal ones but I prefer fruity drinks so I just get tired of them. If the places near me had chewy fruit flavours that's be great, cause I know that some do, but :p can't be
Honestly, if the Bobba people just marketed it as ready-to-drink, fruit flavoured bubble tea for those on the go, as well as talking about the alcoholic beverages not sold in most bubble tea shops, they wouldn't have had any issues. Lots of people would love bubble tea to drink on the go, where they can stock up on a few and carry them, without having to make an extra trip. Some places are too rural and small to get a proper bubble tea shop, and some people just dont have the time to stop and get a bubble tea, especially when some stores will have 15min line ups because theres only 2 people working and the line is going out the door. Plus, some of the flavour combos do sound pretty good.
A lot of the Asian groceries already have these types of drinks. I think the other grocery stores just need to know there is a demand for it. The sad thing is that most people won't try something new and Bobba washed it out enough to make it look more familiar to those who have never tried it. Smh
@@pangkouxiong1244There isnt a Asian grocery store around me for many miles, but they do sell canned boba drinks at the local walmart and kroger
"spa water" makes it sound like they're selling straight greywater ewwwww lol
I literally thought at first it was gonna be water from a hotspring
I thought they meant bath bombs
i immediately got bath water flashbacks
It sounds more like some streamer bath water 😂
It feels like the f**king Gamer girl bath water that used to be sold
On that "bobba" sales pitch, literally all they had to say was "this is our version", they didn't have to go through all that effort to put down boba and claim they improved it or discovered something never seen before in the west. For one, that's a lie, and for two YES it's appropriation. If you say it's yours when it isn't or you say you made it better, that is by definition, appropriation. The fact people even had an argument about this is insane.
What really gets me is literally all they had to do was skim the wikipedia page for boba to know what they "discovered" had already been done for a good long while now, which leads me to wonder if they flat-out lied about inventing anything and expected it to slide. And nearly all the judges were actually *willing* to let it slide.
The apology video was really funny too
"Cultures are meant to be shared" she said, when bobba wasn't even pioneering boba tea in the west.
@@babowasalwayshere
You all are listening to Edvasian's wrong interpretation instead of listening what these 2 persons actually said. And now they got canceled for literally nothing... 🤦♀️
I'm Asian, didn't really follow the whole thing, but from what you wrote here, that sounds like standard idea pitching. I get it's weird when culture is involved, but that's literally now most 'new and improved' pitch ideas go for....
@@shizukagozen777actually i watched the entire pitch and i think edvasian showed enough for people to get the point. nothing was taken out of context or anything. besides, he was nicer than other commentators have been. he literally gives them the benefit of the doubt by saying he didn’t think they were intending to be malicious and most likely struggled with their wording because english isn’t their first language. they pitched it poorly. idk why you’re acting like it’s his fault people have criticism. they paint original boba in a negative light and offer theirs as a better alternative. you have to be intentionally trying to miss everyone’s point by calling it “cancelling”
The other investor's passive-aggressive "apology" was not it.
6:11 yeah I really don’t know what’s in my BROWN SUGAR TEA with TAPIOCA boba pearls ??? Ok lol
Right?! Oh my goodness! What's in my MATCHA MILK TEA with BROWN SUGAR TAPIOCA BOBA PEARLS...oh gee...guess I'll never know.
🤦🏾♀️
Guys you will never guess what’s in my oolong milk tea, 75% sugar, add black pearls, add cheese foam, extra large, less ice drink 😂😂😂
I wake up in a cold sweat thinking about what's in my peach black tea, medium, 0% sugar, less ice, with golden bubbles
No fr it's all in the name😭 flavour, tea, milk, pearls
like oh nooooo i’ll never know what’s in my coconut blended milk tea with extra tapioca pearls or my iced coffee with extra tapioca pearls
The way they said “that’s one way to start” to Simu was soooo disrespectful and like when someone bullies u and then calls it a joke
Yeah fuck them investors, bunch of stuck up capitalist assholes
American culture is very uncomfortable with calling out and being direct despite our culture being Western and more direct than others.
@@Ciaseea more like yt people hate being called out for their bs.
agreed. I really wish Simu would have responded right away with like "what's that suppose to mean? how do you want to start?"
@@Ciaseea I agree with you but I believe the show is Canadian. They also appear to have that issue
“We are taking the “Asian element” out of bubble tea” *still gets it from asia*
Yes but it's a dirty secret. 🤫
"I discovered spa water all over mexico!!!" What in the Christopher Columbus...
😭😭😭😭✋
The way I stopped breathing
@ I am choking rn too, best coment prob
“Close enough, welcome back Christopher Columbus”
@@froggycolouringLMAOOOOO
“Wow, Mexico is following the spa water trend!”
they're "unethnic"-ing boba but still getting it manufactured in taiwan? the irony
Obviously. Can't have the French handle my food.
Fr*nch@@MrHodoAstartes
i COMPLETELY understand Simu's pov, its like with us Mexicans when people are like "omg i love mexican food, im always at Taco Bell and Chipotle" and its like, uhhhhhhhhhh thats 0% "Mexican" food, its appropriated stuff for people who dont know any better. Jack in the Box "Tacos" are not at all even close to real Mexican tacos lol BUT THERES AN AUDIENCE FOR EVERYTHING
Pues
Aquí, la gente también modifica platillos de otros países.
Por ejemplo, el sushi y la pizza.
Así que, tampoco hay que andar con la doble moral.
@ por eso dije al final que hay gente para todo. El problema es cuando no explican que es "su version" o su interpretacion de algo. Aqui ellos dijeron, "esto es boba pero sin las cosas raras asiaticas que no sabes ni que son" y eso estuvo muy mal
An acquaintance from edge-of-nowhere Australia told me her local restaurant was serving an 'authentic Mexican' plate. It was the canned Hormel 'tamales', Rice-a-Roni rice, and Rosarita beans.
@@salmagtz7110 aun asi, no he visto ningun local que venda sushi, pizza, y otros platillos no originarios de México y los nombre "autentica comida" de su pais de origen, o digan que es mejor que el original
Dude, Chipotle and Taco Bell is a part of Mexican food.
The whole bobba segment reminded me of when people on tiktok found out about edges and instead of calling it that, they acted like they created their own thing and called it.. "Sticky bangs".
😮 whaaat?
that was just one chick and i think she went private after the whole thing
@@str3brry no i have seen so many other people doing "sticky bangs" after that 😭
@@str3brry it was multiple people because she inspired a minor trend, there was a whole article about it and everything
OMG YOU REMEMBER THIS! I could've sworn I saw this, couldn't find it so I thought I imagined it😭 I dismissed my memory because I believed that nobody could have that type of audacity nowadays
"you're supposed to sprinkle msg on your food, not do a line of it in the bathroom" the way i almost choked on my curry BHAHSHAHHAHSH
Unless you're Uncle Roger.
Turns out I've been using msg wrong...
"you're never quite sure about its content" is hilarious when it's just tea. Last I checked tea on a base level is just leaves, fruit sometimes, maybe milk and sugar, and water. 😂
and ice
Yeah "WHAT ARE THESE WILD ETHNIC INGREDIENTS????" tea my friend. It's just tea.
That Dragons Den episode feels like it should be a South Park skit 😔
you should let matt and trey know about it maybe theyll do it
I'm Quebecois, hearing the bubble tea couple arguing against Simu was so incredibly embarassing :') A lot of older folks are like this here
Sadly it's 100% my quebecoise grandmother too
Québécoise here too!!! This was so cringe to witness 😢 I wanted to scream at those two idiots so bad. Simu was SO RIGHT to call them out
Ouf tellement ca m’a pincé le coeur hahaha
Ok so question here cause I speak French too and learned English in my teenage years. Aren't québécois supposed to be practically bilingual? I'm confused as to why so many people are like "oh you should cut them some slack cause English isn't their first language". I thought all québécois new how to speak English well or at least have a really high comprehension of it. Maybe that's just silly assumptions like people thinking I automatically speak German and Italian too just because I'm Swiss 😅
Ça me rends trop triste. Parce que de tout ce qu'on peut proposer en France, ils ont gardés le racisme (ceux de la video, pas tout les québécois) 😢
11:33 clearly reading your apology
U can literally see her eyes scanning to read
"Ethnic but better" is like a safer option to experience other cultures for xenophobic people. Something new, but not too different.
I sometimes laugh and sometimes get a bit mad when my culture gets misrepresented in a similar way.
I think once you try your personal ethnic food in a different country, you learn pretty quickly that it's not wise to asume said food is what the home country makes. I think the most frustrating can be when someone believes the customized version is what the nationals eat.
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat this is why I love when my coworker from South Korea shares food and recipes with me and a few others who love Korean food because she shows us the authentic recipes. And then she herself gets very excited to share her culture with her coworkers. Like teaching us New Years soup, and thats now what we plan to being to New Years potluck at work (among other things)
@@thatfuzzypotato1877 people say Korean/Japanese food is White adjacent and a good starting point for white people to explore, eventually considering Thai food or even Indian/Pakistani food
@@thatfuzzypotato1877 You realize you can just search up recipes in another language online, right? It's awesome you know someone that share's recipes, but sometimes I think people forget that the internet is global and auto page translations can let you find sources from the country quite easily.
they do this in Asia too, look up Yōshoku. People in other countries take things from aborad and adjust the tastes and names to fit the local people. People are just mad when white people do it because it's seen as fair game to attack white people now a days
Her reading her whole “apology” BOTHERS MEEE
Ikkkk like she couldn’t even bother memorizing it😒
Copy paste apology
She didn't even bother to use an apologetic tone. My 9yo nephew puts more emotion into reading his science textbook than that.
It sounded like she was mostly just angry about the backlash, and didn't get why people were so mad about it, like she was ticked off they were bothering her about it.
"We should be open to sharing our cultures" girllll it's not your culture to share stfu
3:07 Displate still steals art.
Then don’t buy wm
People should still be aware they steal art fym
@@FranchisePlay3r…. Art still will be stolen???? Unless people will be told and the company stops
Not knowing what's in your boba is a skill issue, tbh. Boba shops litterally encorage you to pick out every single component of the drink.
"I'll have a small black sesame oolong milk tea with 10% of the normal sugar, tapioca pearls, and custard". What's in it? Milk, tea, one pump of simple syrup, tapioca pearls, custard, and ice.
@@TheBluestflamingos
Finally someone who understands ! 👏👏👏
Facts. At the very least, most boba is TEA plus MILK plus PEARLS OF YOUR CHOOSING plus syrup or flavored powder of your choosing. Like 🤦🏻♀️ most people could not tell you what is in coca cola.
Omg right! The fact that some of these people don't know is because they've never experienced it before. Ignorance is not an excuse! Smh
lol right? Every boba place I’ve gone to in the last 5 years literally had a computer screen for you to pick every component down to the percentage of ice they put in
@@Pomagranite167 Exactly with the coca cola!!
im a white dude but its pretty clear simu has a very valid point here, like im sure that indian woman would be offended if some white people came up and were like oh we made this indian curry but made it better !~
I know many Indian people, no they don't, they don't care, you know what actually offends them? people like you that assumes how everyone else feels about something or tell everyone else how they should feel. Indians have too many things to deal with to care about some person from the other side of the world say about their cuisine.
Have you ever had Japanese curry? It's basically Indian curry that got heavily filtered through _British_ food culture before somehow ending up in Japan...
When I was a child many many years ago, there was a popular dish in my north European country (not the UK) called "hen with rice and curry" that had extremely few points in common with any kind of original curry. It was probably inspired by British curry. Fortunately, after people here started experiencing somewhat more authentic foreign cuisines, and got access to more fresh and varied ingredients from around the world, that dish fell into well-earned oblivion. But the first time I tried Japanese curry, something about it felt very familiar to me, though still infinitely tastier. Basically, the British took Indian curry and ruined it, and then the Japanese took British curry and improved it. Which somehow feels totally okay.
@@aprillen i think the difference with british curry (and subsequently japanese curry) was that it was made with mostly local ingredients available in britain, and thus change occured as a result. The same cannot be said about the Bobba drink.
@@asteri8299 Oh, absolutely, I wasn't saying (or meaning) that it was the same thing at all.
@@aprillen whats your point? its hardly even relavant its not like the japanese created that curry as an investment oppurtunity they made it because they want to eat it.
I've been drinking Agua Fresca since I was a child in Mexico 1992. The use of cucumber and chia is an entirely American addition as they remained at the standard 3 flavors up until the late 2000s. It is not a good example to use because "Spa water" literally did effect the culture of Mexican drinks and nobody is up in arms about it. At no point in the video of the Mexican mother did she complain that it was appropriation, she just laughed at the "English" name. These Mexican mothers do go to spas, they do know what _Spa Water_ is, they're not just some isolated group that never intermingles with the rest of society. This argument is just bizarre to me as someone who has personally seen the cultural exchange in real time. I just wanted to present my perspective.
Yeah, there’s a lot of ways to add your own spin to something based on your own tastes (whether it be cultural or not).
The idea that “international” food (I say international because, let’s be real, this doesn’t apply to American-born dishes) must be exactly as they were made in their home country is kind of crazy.
You can change things and still be respectful, that's the videos thesis
@@audreyiissnack54 This was a month ago, as I recall Spa Water was used as an example of being done disrespectfully when that is simply never been the case.
Using a bad example hurts the video's thesis.
@@Shockguey Its also BS. Spa water with cucumber has been around forever.
I also hate the name. Not only does it lack any creativity, you're completely right about the pronunciation. According to English pronunciation conventions, there is no way you get a long O sound. The double consonant indicates a short vowel. It's "Bob"-ba, like the name Bob. They've spelled it in a way that is doomed to be mispronounced.
buba
Its the Chinese word for dad
@@Mr-pn2eh they almost certainly didn't think of that when naming it, but if they did, it's really funny like why are we drinking dad
I think what bothered me the most about the boba people on Dragons Den is that people were acting like Simu Liu’s take was just being a “too woke sjw” and mean, but his concerns were perfectly reasonable?? Frankly he has crazy good self control I would have gotten mad 😭 also watching culture being appropriated in real time has always been one of the most exhausting things about the internet cowboy caviar( pico de gallo) still haunts me
🤦♀️ oh god I just looked up the cowboy caviar
Como que cowboy caviar???
... No me respondan, me niego a saber, prefiero vivir en la ignorancia
I thought cowboy caviar was a TexMex thing where they took something traditional (pico de gallo) and added more southwestern ingredients to the mix?
@@msjkrameyI’ve seen it jarred & including black beans and corn but afaik it isn’t a typical texmex thing, at least not by the name cowboy caviar (credentials for this are i grew up in tx lol)
Live in AZ and I’ve never once heard of “cowboy caviar”, wtf is that? I looked it up and it seems to be a bean salad with vinaigrette, no correlation to pico de gallo at all
my favourite part was that woman in pastel pink trying to convince Simu that he's exaggerating. lady. just... no.
Them acting like Simu is opening some sjw dialogue feels very micro aggression. The pitch was strange and I’m glad he called it out.
They were trying to pitch it in English which they were obviously not well versed in. Funny, because normally you hear of the French making fun of others trying to speak French.
Not even micro either, that's pretty blatant of them
macro aggression 🥲
Micro aggression doesn't exist and Simu is an idiot
Okay actually I see what you mean. Simu has lots of bad takes on social media but he was right here
I’m also Chinese Canadian (wasian) and I got bullied so much for my lunch, even to the point of two boys form my class taking my bbq pork bun from my hands, tossing it around, and smelling and said it smells like dog sht and threw it into the pavement where I had go on my hands and knees, pick it up from the gravel and eat it from the ground, unable to take all the pebbles off. Dehumanizing is how it felt. It was a formative experience at age 9 that showed me how hateful kids and their parents can be from an early age. It made me hyper-aware of race, appearance, and the need to fit in. I also got bullied for my appearance since I had more Chinese features when I was a child. Now those same bullies are travelling to SE Asia to “find themselves” and have a spiritual awakening. I am no longer “ashamed” of my mom being a Chinese immigrant or eating congee and century egg, jellyfish salad, or bbq pork buns at school❤
Those losers were definitely jealous of your amazing food!
That's horrible, I'm so sorry. I'm glad you can be proud of where you came from, which should be the normal now, but somehow we went from horrible prejudice against Asian cultures to mass appropriation. Not that indulging in other cultures and learning about them is a bad thing, but when it stems from the same ignorance as the original prejudice, it really can be just as harmful.
Some Asian cultures (especially Japanese) also take inspiration from and adapt Western things as well, but we usually see it as endearing and cutesify it (which is a whole nother problem) so I assume that could be a reason for it being so common here.
Luckily the schools I went to do not allow students to bring their own food.
@@user-bi8ko7kc6hit’s interesting right? It seems like a lucky situation but then again shouldn’t we just teach empathy and diversity?
You should expose/confront them for what they did to you. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that.
I think the cherry on top for me is the fact that Manjit’s apology couldn’t have made it more obvious that it was scripted, she’s literally looking up to read it every second😭
i’ll never understand why people will make fun of the food other people eat. i literally got made fun of for eating rambutan once…. by older ADULTS
People make bad jokes towards another race then when others feel uncomfortable which can be a type of racism to them, those people would say, oh it’s just joke, why so serious?
L from those people then, rambutans are fire
They probably didn’t understand what it was and instinctually started demonizing it. It’s a trait of immature minds. 😹
@@embrixcandray6073 correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the lychee fruit the same as Rambutan??
@@Lyna8689 no they are 2 different fruits
I cant even get past the ‘Bobba’ segment i feel so much ick and second hand embarrassment watching i can’t push past it 😭
11:38 why does she sound like a Middle schooler reading a speech in front of the class 💀
"The Oriental One" is crazy..
Are you the lunchlady, calling him crazy?
I think the Oriental One made a fine video... whats your issue
The thing is, she was being so nice about it. 😭
That's something a lot of the very old generation just does. Even when they're being very nice towards someone, they just grew up in an era where literally everyone said things like 'oriental' or 'colored'. And every single Hispanic person was 'Mexican'
The French ones are crazy…
i hate how they all started talking over Simu making concerns
Yeah the whole bit abt Simu being an SJW… it was legit! Simu is a Chad fr
Yeah he wasn't even being aggressive or anything but the way they kept talking over him, esp that lady was aggravating. Grade A tone policing
@@tarotsushima3332 no he was he was being what you call passive aggresive
@KC-2049 how were they being racist
@KC-2049I am Eastern European born in Western Europe and I can confirm your statment. People here do not even differentiate between Eastern European countries. Before the war in Ukraine, all Eastern Europeans were just called "Russian" by westerners. And everything east of Germany/Austria is called eastern, there is no central Europe for westerners.
Also thank you so much Simu Liu for speaking up and bringing awareness on this!!
1:01 The Pokemon dub thing has been an in-joke in my family forever now. We're always jokingly calling onigiri 'doughnuts'
Been looking for those doughnuts at every bakery but the never have them. Except one bakery who made them as a joke and found out that it sold out 😂
Wobbuffet that can talk :O
“Ethnic but better” is a horrifying string of words. Cleansings come to mind. 🤢
Yup, thought the same thing 😮💨
All they meant to say is that instead of the chemical powders used to made bubble tea (yes, we don't know what's in these), they make a healthy version with mostly natural ingredients. You all want to hate on people way too much*, it's crazy. 🤦♀️
@@shizukagozen777 Dude are you okay? You're in so many of these replies going on about this.
@@empressmarowynn
So what ? I'm just upset that people talk shit and cancel people because they aren't capable of LISTENING to what they're saying. I'm also done with your cultural appropriation shit, it always only works one way with you all. 🤦♀️
@@shizukagozen777they already have bubble tea without powders. a huge amount of shops brew fresh tea and blend fresh fruits. they didn't even make a new product. they're saying they're better when they're at best the same thing lol
The problem was not that another ethnicity that is not asian is making boba, the problem was they were pitching boba like it was a problem that they are solving.
In my opinion, they could've framed it as introducing boba to other ethnicities that might not know what it is or is hesitant in trying traditional asian flavors that might not be familiar to them by using more approachable flavors and opening the gates to pique interest in the traditional boba and even educating people about its origins and significance in asian culture.
Not shocked by what the two entrepreneurs said... I am from where they are in Canada and honestly there are a lot of people there that are not respectful of others culture but want people to respect theirs...
What I found with Canadians is they view themselves as better than Americans. They’re the “nice” country. A lot of Canadians really believe they’re not racist or that racism isn’t that bad in Canada bc America is so much more loud and aggressive with racism. So when Canadians are called out on their racism they are genuinely shocked and get defensive. It’s like how Europeans are towards the Romani people. They say they’re not racist like Americans but hate the Romani with a burning passion
2:09 That rolled r in agua fresca was CRISP
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oh man, we need more of this!!
Seeing Simu's reaction to Bobba... Lol They made boba tea sound like some mystery drink and kept digging their hole even deeper. And the other investors playing this made me shake my head
Sometimes I think people are too dumb to share cultures. I know a guy who spent 5 years to become fluent in Japanese to go to Japan and bar/club hop to try and find a kind caring stereotype Japanese wife. Like DUDE ITS BAR HOPPING YOURE NOT FINDING ANYONE YOUR AGE OR WIFE MATERIAL AT 3AM! 16:52 it gets particularly nasty in things like anime books manga and games. The “translators” will not actually translate the stuff make up lines then fight with fans and insist their version is better despite almost all of them being unable to read the original language without heavy assistance from google translate.
I learned Japanese to conversational fluency, and since I spend time in Japanese discord servers as well as English ones, I put a blurb in Japanese on my profile basically stating my preferred name transliteration since the one most people choose makes my otherwise normal name sound dicey af.
This attracts _hella_ cringe. People trying to use Google translate to convince me they speak Japanese to hit on me, people pretending to be Japanese try to be my friend ("京都出身日本人ですよ。", is somehow absurdly commonly said by these types with various cities despite that fact that no actual Japanese speaks like that, it's like if we ended greetings with "please treat me well"), people demanding that I teach them Japanese for free then trying to publicly shame me when I decline, people getting mad that I learned Japanese but have no interest in Anime and trying to publicly shame me for that...
@@sucyshi I’m learning Japanese too, originally to watch anime fluently, but then I went to Japan and made some friends, and I want to go teach there when I’m done my education degree. The amount of people I’ve encountered that are exactly like you’ve described is INSANE. Not to mention those who insist j*p isn’t a slur… What is it about the Japanese language that attracts such cringe people? Like man, just let me learn and talk to my buddies.
@@sucyshiyeah, ick: them, not you.
@red2coreblue584 centuries of exoticizing a culture based on the belief of subservience. Then feeling powerless in a society where they have the power to the point of being able to exoticize others. And the entitlement that comes with others
Most of us here in Canada were not surprised that it was/are people from Quebec doing this. They knew exactly what they were doing and saying. They don't care and are only apologising because they got caught. People are shocked about what they said in English. But wouldn't put it past them that they are saying even more horrible things in French thinking people don't understand but a lot do.
I'm from new brunswick. I didn't want to say anything bad, but I'm glad that I saw your comment 😄
the MSG stuff has always bothered me so much considering MSG is naturally occurring. surprise, there's been MSG in all of the tomato sauce you've ever eaten!
This is interesting, I have a friend who gets migraines from a lot of Asian takeaway food, but also gets them from tomatoes.
@katerrinah5442 actually, this is very explainable and unrelated to MSG! tomatoes and other citrus fruits are high in tyramine, which is a migraine trigger for many people. pickled and fermented foods are also high in tyramine and so they're also are commonly cited migraine triggers. it's actually the tyramine content of soy sauce, which is fermented, that is most likely giving your friend headaches! miso and fish sauce are also high in tyramine for the same reason. while the phenomenon of asian food causing headaches in tyramine-sensitive people is very much a real and somewhat common thing, it's the cultural fear surrounding MSG that leads to the misconception that it's the culprit.
@@katerrinah5442 Same and not when I eat tomatoes or other citrus fruits. It's only MSG. People who don't understand, did not research, and lack empathy generally tend to ignore peoples' complaints with food ingredients. They don't WANT to know so they project as if the other person is an idiot.
Honey, I can't believe you forgot your pumpkin pie at the lunch counter.
"Honey, are you ok? You haven't touched your Dunkin Pumpkin Pie Latte with 27 pumps of caramel and five splendas."
This whole presentation was wild - they could have just marketed as being able to have boba at home or on the go. Literally anything else other than what they actually said/presented. And everyone else on the panel who gave him grief (talk about micro aggressions) simply because they didn’t want to hear a different opinion.
Back in the day people were racist. That day was yesterday.
Bobba's fundamental mistake was not calling their products a "Fusion Boba" drink. It's not what it is, it is how you sell it.
Literally saying that "you don't know what's in it!!!" when some of the ingredients of a Bobba drink are the trademark vague "natural and artificial flavors" and (squints) sodium metaphosphate and sodium carboxymethyl cellulose (I'm assuming they're for the popping boba part but like bestie without googling I have no idea what that is!!!)
Right like processed chemicals = healthier because there are less calories ? I trust the small boba shop ingredients have less actual poison
And ironically, these preservatives and thickeners are likely to make the boba texture more palatable to regions that would find regular boba displeasing.
Just a heads up, historians are fairly certain that the "Chinese Food Syndrome" originated as a joke. It first appeared in a segment of a medical journal that was known for doctors writing in satirical illnesses. Didn't see this perusing the comments and it's important context that is often lost.
Wow, I didn't know that.
@@LagrangePoint0 Yeah! I first heard it described in a video deep diving into MSG and was shocked because my mom is one of very few people that MSG legitimately affects (similar to how there are a few people who legitimately get sick from sulfates). It's a 1968 letter in the New England Journal of Medicine written in by "Robert Ho Man Kwok" and iirc a couple different people have claimed to have been the writer since.
I'd recommend Adam Ragusea's video if you're interested.
@@NothingIsLittle Thank you!
I think some people do have real problems, but it is just a sodium problem rather than msg being bad, especially when they are consuming a lot of sodium in a buffet. Same way that sugar is not poisonous, but some people may have trouble with it because their body cannot handle certain simple sugars.
7:02 he’s like did they really just proudly said that TO MY FACE 💀💀
I'm confused as to how fruity juices with popping boba are 'disrupting the market' and 'removing the ethnic side' of the product considering that you can get those exact drinks in every asian-run boba shop I know here in Scotland and have been able to for years.
These ppl just wanna complain about “racism”. And those guys are ppl who suck at English, they’re gonna sound weird when explaining. And nobody is saying it’s bad that boba is ethnic, it’s just unhealthy from the amount of sugar, they tried to make a less unhealthy version.
Im pretty sure the young entrepreneurs said something about removing the ethnicity which is where the controversy started,reply the vid and pay attention to the young entrepreneurs when they were explaining their product
I can literally go down the street to grab a mango slushy with strawberry popping boba in Los Angeles, and they are saying they are making an innovative product.
@@Yumi_officall what the commenter is saying is that they didn't remove any ethnicity or change it in any way even though they think they did, fruit juice and fruit tea are very often in bubble tea so they didn't actually remove any ethnicity as they were claiming they did
@@onedirectioninfection5756
They never claimed that, they only claimed to make a healthier version with natural ingredients instead of the chemical powders used to make normal bubble teas ! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Honestly as someone with AN INSANE msg sensitivity the worst I ever get is nausea and a headache…THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR THEM GETTING THOSE SYMPTOMS IS THAT THEY ARE SNORTING THAT SH- 😭
Probably they ate as much as physically possible and then guessed why they felt bad and bloated the next day. Probably the MSG? No! That's because you ate a portion of food for five people only by yourself!
@@donajonse FOR REALLLL 😭
Dang. Not sure what I would do if I couldn't eat Chinese takeaway, tomatoes, mushrooms, or parmesan. Stay strong, cousin 😔✊
THIS. It's like a coin flip when I have pasta because of the red sauce. It's in tomatoes. I love mushrooms. Chicken marsala might slap me in the face.
I have to eat a lot of it or be very, very unlucky. At the same time... I'd rather MSG be in it because I've got blood pressure that's a little iffy and you're going to be putting more salt to compensate and I'm gotta get a nasty headache CONFIRMED instead of a "maybe".
I misspoke. I meant to say migraine, because headaches and migraines are NOT THE SAME and I’m pretty sure headaches don’t make you so sick you vomit every two-three hours lol
It's honestly interesting how similar things happen even within Asia - a few years ago, this cafe in Singapore (run by Chinese Singaporeans who form the majority here) tried to market a "healthier" version of a minority dish, just "without the nasties" which of course, sparked much discourse
Pocket bread, crunch patties and flavor sauce!!! My *favorite* Middle Eastern meal...🤣🤣🤣
Crunch patties
💀💀💀 After having lived in the Middle East for over two decades, I cringe at what is referred to as Middle Eastern food being offered at restaurants in Canada. It’s a generic version of what it’s like if described to someone who’s never tried it by someone who vaguely remembers having it once.
@@adamgriss2025 as a Canadian it makes me cringe seeing my own people do it
@@adamgriss2025 Wdym exactly? I've always thought Middle Eastern restaurants here are pretty good? Huge Persian, Arab, Afghan presence here.
@@victorchen9170 the food is usually made for western the palate. Just think of Taco Bell compared to actual Mexican cuisine. The difference is night and day.
I grew up in a primarily Mexican populated area, with a very established culture. Most people who did not look super Hispanic where mixed like myself. But there was also a lot of Filipino people in my neighborhood so I also grew up around that culture. When I moved to a very country town as a young teenager I was baffled to hear the things I thought normal where in fact, not normal among the people who live there. I got called "exotic" once. But most people meant well and where genuinely curious and exited to learn about my culture. But I still come across some racist remarks unfortunately even when it comes to the food which gets very similar "But the things in it are questionable" remarks. ALSO, calling agua frescas "spa water" made me die laughing.
I’m Mexican and I was called exotic… IN TEXAS 😭😭😭 1 that’s gross don’t call me that 2 im like the least exotic person here what ??? Texas has mostly Mexicans 😭
@@mars-guajardo2507 I know right??? Even Texas has it's little primarily white communities that don't see anything other than the norm a lot
@@mars-guajardo2507 as a Texan Atleast 80% of my school is hispanic 😂
@@Lyna8689 nah fr 😭 like Spanish is the second most spoken language here… exotic where ? He clearly doesn’t know Texas history lolol
@mars-guarjardo25p7 perhaps he was from the midewest, where mexicans may actually seem exotic 😂
The audacity to say bubble tea is made with mysterious ingredients while their products contains preservatives, thickeners, and dyes.
Their pitch sounds like the "MSG scare" of my childhood all over again 😂 edit: should have waited a few more minutes for edvasian to talk about this before posting 😂
9:45 "natures Jell-O Sweet tea, proud to be American 😎!" 😭😭😭
That restaurant thing is INSANE lol... Chinese food in general is way healthier than American food.
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Yes, gutter oil is the best.
In elementary I was one of the only three asians at school. The other two guys were Japanese and Korean, I'm Filipino. I wasn't asian enough to be asian cos I was browner and didn't use chopsticks. Very memory 💀
WAW !!!
Tbh, Filipinos feel more akin to Mexicans than Asians. Make an Asian speak spanish and he'll still look Asian, make a Filipino speak spanish and he'll look the part
@@dontmindmefangirling3123 I can't even be upset because that's lowkey facts 😂😭
I’m Indonesian and I’ve noticed that all throughout school and college, other Asians who just had lighter skin than me were treated far better than my brother and I. We were fortunate enough to go to Disney World for marching band my freshman year and I will never forget how my brother got pulled aside for a “random security check” in three different parks - because he “looked suspicious”. He was just wearing sunglasses and had darker skin than everyone else in the band.
@@dontmindmefangirling3123 Filipino culture is actually quite closely aligned to LatAm culture because of the extended time they spent as a Spanish colony. A lot of their original culture and language was destroyed, and replaced by Spanish culture and language
If they hadn't called it "bobba" and saying they removed the "ethnical" part, this would be a hit. However that's several layers of yikes. They could have even called the drink Bob and said it was inspired by the Tiawanese drink Boba and it would have been a hit
Yes absolutely I have seen quite a lot I people and conservative channels acting he is super woke and calling him hypocrit bcs him being chinese he played korean characters
The Mexican mom cussing out her daughter brought me so much joy 🤣
They've had canned boba tea and fruit boba tea for quite some time. Also some people got kinoko cha(a type of fermented tea) confused with kombu cha (kelp tea) and that's why it's call kombucha here even though it doesn't contain any kombu.
You learn something new every day 🤯
Canned boba is absolutely, horrendous, but that's because I've only ever seen milk tea. Putting milk into a can is not going to turn out well.
and here I thought kombucha wasn’t a Japanese loanword, wtf
The same goes for Middle Eastern food. I hate the " make it better" approach, which means making it bland or Western. And yes, I don't mind changing a bit in the ingredients to make it a lil different, but watch what you say about the food. It might be just "food" in your eyes, but it's our culture. 👍
Yeah, it wouldnt be nearly as bad if they just said "Making it american" or something instead of claiming that their version is best
I'm Turkish. I don't identify as Middle Eastern but yeah, ironically the "Turkish food" they sell in EU tastes even worse than in Turkiye.
For example. there's eating "döner kebap" in Turkiye, and then there's eating "doner kebab" in EU. The latter tastes too dry (probably because of EU regulations?) and sometimes even extremely spicy (because of how many of those store owners are not Turkish and probably never even been to the country, they are usually South Asian). I tried this "famous" doner kebab in many different places and all of them were frankly very dry and bland in taste. So I have no idea how they even improved it XD
I find it difficult how many of my foreign friends whose whole experience with eating "Turkish kebap" is just eating those dry and tasteless meats and think that is delicious. If it was not for Italians, I'd go hungry in EU. Thanks again to our fellow Mediterraneans for making proper food.
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Edititng this comment because I am not going to answer all the triggered certain Northerners here anymore. XD Like, I find it hilarious that the only people attacking to me over here are Northerners (probably over "I'd starve if not for Italians" part), because I never said their food was bad, they just jumped into assumptions, and it was also only Northerners, not other cultures either. I think this shows they are the ones who subconsciously believe their cuisine is bad.
As for people from other cultures, I'd like to clarify that I am not a picky eater, and I enjoy other cultures foods as well. I specified Italians/Mediterraneans, because Mediterranean cuisine(s) is what I grew up with. Plus, when I try other cultures foods (South American etc) they also tasted bland here, except for Italians (and Spanish). I didn't go to French restaurants because most were out of my budget. I think it is because of EU regulations, so the food coming from the outside of EU tastes different than the home country. Italy and Spain are in the EU, so their food tastes more accurate to the source, although admittedly, they taste the best in their own respective countries.
@@hushingraxacoricofallapoto3405Have you tried foods from other ethnic backgrounds? Like maybe Latin American or Caribbean foods? I’m sure there’s others out there like the Italian restaurants. You should give it a go.
It is food to be fair, if someone doesn’t like it that’s fine. If people want to modify it they just have to be respectful of who’s around them.
@@hushingraxacoricofallapoto3405 I don't know what you're on about, Döner kebab in Germany is very good in very many places. There are so many Döner places that of course, there are bad ones as well, but Döner in Germany is generally good, it's a national favorite food, and the vast majority of stalls/restaurants are run by Turkish guys.
Also need to note what is called "Döner Kebab" in Germany is not the same product you get in Turkey. The name only refers to one specific sandwich dish, which was created by Turks in Germany and differs from the versions in Turkey. Over the years, this has become its own thing with its own standards.
As for how the dish in the bread was improved, I heard that Turks in Germany were the first to put Cacik in the sandwich. The sauce is a key ingredient in the Döner version from Germany.
A "German" Döner has the following ingredients: Bread, meat, onion, tomato/cucumber, lettuce, cabbage, sauce, pul biber. Döner in Turkey has a much bigger focus on the meat and is often just meat with a bit of bread or veggies on the side. Döner in Germany is about the composition of the sandwich, not just about the meat alone.
As you can see, many people in Germany are very passionate about Döner (sandwich). If you eat Döner in Germany expecting one of the dished you eat in Turkey, ofc you will be disappointed, because it is not even the same dish.
Like a lot of chefs say, don't try to make a dish more healthy (there is a reason it's made this way in the first place), just eat a healthier dish like salad more often and have that hearty, less healthy dish on special occasions.
There are already many brands and cafe chains that sell products similar to Bobba. Also, “boba” is just what we call the tapioca pearls (purely optional and can be changed at customer’s discretion). It’s just tea and milk. You can use a dairy substitute and control the level of sugar, which is already offered by many brands.
I can imagine their jaws will drop to the floor if they learn I order my boba tea at 20% sweetness!
Boba is just the name of their brand. 🙄 And about the rest, no, bubble teas aren't just "tea and milk", they mix all sorts of powders to give some flavors to the beverage, and that's what they meant by "we don't know what's in them". And they're right, we DON'T know what's in these chemical powders ! 🤦♀️
@@shizukagozen777depends on the places you go. There are boba places that use powders, there are also those that use actual brewed tea/coffee and other natural fruit juices. Again, it's very common and has been done before. They could have just pitched the product as their own take on boba drinks with natural juices that contain vitamins and antioxidants and offer up new interesting flavors instead.
@@shizukagozen777so many boba shops do not use powders in their drinks. None of the shops in Taiwan uses powder now. It is always tea, fruit, dairy, or some other natural ingredient.
@@shizukagozen777 ?? Have you ever even been to a boba shop because I've never seen them use powders. It's literally tea or juice with milk. They make it in front of you. 🤦♀
I don't think they meant anything bad by it, but calling boba "mysterious" makes it sound like some ancient eastern magic or something 💀
Mysterious = we don't know what's exactly inside what we purchase.
Bubble teas are made with various sorts of powders to give some flavors to the milk. We don't know what these powders are made of, therefore they're "mysterious". 🤦♀️
@@shizukagozen777 only very cheap bubble tea stands use powder. Most major chains use real tea, milk, and sugar. You can taste the difference, too.
@@shizukagozen777 decent chains use milk steeped with teabags overnight to give the milk flavour.
They just dumb af tbh.. what a thing to say in 2024 bruh
@@mhawang8204
Excuse me but in most countries, all you can find are bubble teas made with powders. You all are way too gullible about what you drink or eat or you are very lucky that your local shops have healthy alternatives but keep in mind that if that's cheap, that ain't healthy !
The main difference is the quality of their powders and the teas. It doesn't mean that they don't use powders...
as soon as I heard about all the symptoms people were reporting after eating MSG… have they considered. drinking more water? because MSG is basically salt on steroids so you need a lot more water to balance it out. I grew up with this knowledge but for people who might only eat western Chinese food rarely, it's not something you know intuitively.
I feel this video so much man, all these "pancake" videos claiming that they invented something new while it's just old german/austrian recipes like Kaiserschmarrn or Apfelräderl
Or bread...i remember when americans were baking rye bread, acting like they invented it. There is a Video somewhere were some US channel was talking about countries and the bread they were famous for...americans got rye bread and germany got Bagels...Bagels...😂. There are a lot of people in germany who dont even know what bagels are but we are famous for it? Americans get rye bread even though they are most famous for toast...amazing.
Americans are so white they even consider German enthic now lmao
That boba segment is wild
What Simu said: Its fine
What Simu really said: The caucasity of these mfs
I hate how the other dragons were putting him down. I get that you want to make your money but part of the money-making process is identifying how the public will react to it. It doesn’t matter if 5 people think it’s a good idea, will the people being sold the product think it’s a good idea?
It was sad to see some non-Asian TH-camr saying Simu was being a SJW or woke on this. Like, they aren’t Asian and haven’t live through Asian hate or cultural appropriation and decided to way in. Glad Simu pointed out how their pitch was so wrong.
Oh my god I made the same face as Simu Liu when that idiot Bobba salespersom said "not enthnical anymore" that's so crazy!! Thank god he was there for that pitch
This left me speechless. A sugary drink that you don’t know what’s in it?? Huh? Yes we have BOBA in Australia. We’re neighbours with Asia. My second hand embarrassment os so strong. The ‘not an ethnical product anymore’ did my head in
Yes sharing cultures is so much fun. But watching people eat vegemite off a spoon isn’t. Please stop and do it properly. There’s plenty of tutorials on TH-cam including one from hugh Jackman
SO REAL
I imagine the taiwanese people who invented bubble tea would be more irked about mainlanders deciding how the product has to be marketed than the gatekeeping insecurities of some banana from toronto
If there would have been even small changes like "something like african, but better" or "something like middle eastern but better" the episode wouldn't even be aired
Lol yeah because black culture never gets appropriated 🙄... It's just that in our case no one ever knows about it and just calls it 'young people culture/tik tok culture/some random white celeb's idea'... Just our hairstyles alone which have very important meanings or are representing our beliefs or tragic history are being worn as trends and accessories by every Becky ever...
Also, why you gotta bring other races into it and pitting them against each other? You're just being equally racist.
Yeah lol, they should have just said "this is our spin/version of the traditional boba tea" they wouldn't have make the li_b__rds cry.
@@LagrangePoint0 bro not knowing your inspiration for your own product is literally unprofessional
Lmao I'm so happy you think people care about us African but I can assure you there is a lot of things like this going around being in noticed 😅
Opposite. It would have aired, but no one would have cared. There wouldn't have been nearly as much public outcry as this received.
Thanks!
I’m from Quebec and I feel so much secondhand CRINGE AND EMBARRASSMENT from that Bobba part AAAAAH 😭😭 Unfortunately, I am so not surprised by this: when you step outside of Montreal, there is little to no ethnical/cultural variety and the farther away you go, the worse it gets :’)) I think people often tend to be just ignorant about such issues. What saddens me though is they don’t take the time to inform themselves and they say shit like this and it’s just downright disrespectful 😞
2:43 "i dont speak but i understood everything " lol
this early that i cant even read the funny comments
real 😔
TH-cam comments are never funny…..
@@______________url you aren’t looking in the right place
That’s why you make your own instead of recycling bad ones. But also, aren’t comments for the videos and not for the audience?
@@______________url Seth Meyers has a weekly segment on funny comments called Corrections. Beyond the trolls, the bots and the sealions there are some funny people out there.
“He forgot his pumpkin pie. Can you bring it to him sugar?”
Immediately going from “wHOA” in the sentence before to “aww” because the lunch lady just wanted him to get his slice of pie was WILD. She’s got the spirit just not the vocabulary 😭
She could’ve just posted text… reading that apology off was so robotic and she didn’t address her comments during taping or how she treated Simu at all
because she wasn't in the wrong people were harassing her
@@stop0p saying she "wasn't in the wrong" when she was being passively racist is kinda shitty ngl. The way she spoke over Simu and regarded his concerns as if they were too much was off color at best.
6:07 "and you're never quite sure about its content" .........tea, water, tapioca, milk&sugar or just condensed milk, some places have vegan versions with blended fruit or unmilk like oat or soy?? guessing off the top of my head
“a little tension between both parties here, and not in the good fan fiction kinda way” hahahahahaha
I'm sure the Canadians had that dumb pitch because they assumed there wouldn't be an asian person as a judge. The producers set both the judge and the contestants up for maximum drama so every dumb tiktoker and youtuber would be talking about it. Don't get me wrong, their pitch was dumb as hell and deserved to be called out, but let's not pretend that this wasn't manufactured drama from producers, which ALSO should be called out
Probably producers even suggested stuff about removing the ethnic part, just for drama
Absolutely, and now a business is ruined.
@@LagrangePoint0 Good lol! They have no business acting like that just because they assumed there wouldn't be an Asian investor.
Your theory just makes it worse... I'm guessing they wanted Simu because they assumed he'd be more familiar with the product and a better judge of quality than the other judges. Not because they assumed the entrepreneurs would say weird racist shit because they thought they were safe. Shark Tank does the exact same thing with their guest sharks and afaik I've never seen other entrepreneurs say this kind of shit
Simu is Canadian