Video Games That Stole Their Music

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2023
  • Who knew theft could be so easy? Today we talk about Video Game music and the many types of 'inspirations' composers have taken. It's easy to call something stolen, but what actually qualifies as plagarism? That's what we'll be looking at today!
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    resources:
    thomas game docs - • The Pop song that Nint...
    the dpad on mj in sonic 3 - • A Brief History of Mic...
    mother series plagarized - • All Known Musical Refe...
    whole article on a ton - www.gamesradar.com/soundtrack...
    the rest were made popular on tiktok/twitter so i can't remember where i first saw them sorre
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  • @paperpopper2586
    @paperpopper2586 ปีที่แล้ว +6470

    One of my worst fears is (eventually) making a song then finding out i unconsciously copied a melody or something from an existing song

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP ปีที่แล้ว +544

      SAME SO MUCH especially people not believing it's a coincidence

    • @klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik
      @klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik ปีที่แล้ว +465

      Fun fact: Every day you're slightly more likely to copy something, as new things are made every day.

    • @FuranA7x
      @FuranA7x ปีที่แล้ว +323

      Seriously, don't worry about it. That's how music is created. No one "invented" anything. Unless you recreate the exact same song (melody, rythm, harmony, etc), you are making new music like every other human ever. People that say you are "copying" music because your song resemble another is simply ignorant on the topic.

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@FuranA7x someone had to have invented it at some point in history.

    • @FuranA7x
      @FuranA7x ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@Blanktester685 Yes, but even if you create a "similar" song, you are creating something new.

  • @TimesChu
    @TimesChu ปีที่แล้ว +1666

    Let's be real: the idea that a chord progression or basic rhythm can be "stolen" is an invention of record labels who would copyright whole instruments if they could.

    • @Barakon
      @Barakon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or basically, COPYRIGHT IS A BITCH

    • @justsomewheel9379
      @justsomewheel9379 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      Eventually we're gonna run out of cord progressions and every new song will be copyright striked
      Brands have already copyrighted literal colours so the copyright industry is clearly doomed

    • @yeildishere
      @yeildishere ปีที่แล้ว +84

      ​@@justsomewheel9379honestly it just shows that copyright in it's current form need sto be scaled back a fuck ton to avoid this kinda shit from happening and preventing the greedy masters of entertainment from hogging everything to themselves

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that's why the Marvin Gaye estate should kill themselves.

    • @dannickfausse3312
      @dannickfausse3312 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@justsomewheel9379That’s just not true though, there’s so much more that goes into making a song than just the chord progression and besides even if you have the same progression your song can still sound completely different

  • @aritherecluse2927
    @aritherecluse2927 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    Japanese city pop being the inspiration for the songs I grew up with explains why I get "nostalgia I never had" from them, being not alive when those songs came out

    • @Johnnybomb1
      @Johnnybomb1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, as it turns out, most of these "genius" Japanese video games composers of the 80s and 90s, heavily plagiarized popular Japanese songs at the time, in addition to West Pop, Funk, Jazz, etc...

    • @Blitz_Spencer
      @Blitz_Spencer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Johnnybomb1heavily inspired =/= plagiarized

  • @brisayman
    @brisayman ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The fact is, you can’t base a plagiarism argument on three notes, a popular cord progression nor a common drum beat. Artist don’t create out of nothing, we have influences and the creation process usually come down to mixing multiple already existing ideas and influence to create something fresher. Thanks for having a nuanced opinion 🙏

  • @brebeaa
    @brebeaa ปีที่แล้ว +1393

    As an illustrator, I can relate. Artists take the best bits of things we love from other artists and turn them into ingredients for our own art. Hopefully, with enough ingredients from enough sources we can create a fresh dish, with hints of what made it, but having a taste all its own. That’s all of art in a nutshell.

    • @killmii8473
      @killmii8473 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok

    • @SuspiciousScout
      @SuspiciousScout ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Definitely. Nothing people create is ever truly, wholly "original". We all take inspiration from something, and that's the whole point, to then meld it into something of your own creation.

    • @beanoptodon
      @beanoptodon ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@Don't Read My Profile Picture okay, I won't. Thanks for warning me to not look at your account.

    • @cheesyanimationstudios6023
      @cheesyanimationstudios6023 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Once I made a character that looks too much like Bill cipher, because he had giant eyes and literally had powers to end the universe

    • @brebeaa
      @brebeaa ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@cheesyanimationstudios6023 I once made a character that had black hair with red streaks, and a long lost love named Maria. It took my friend pointing out that I had just created a human Shadow the Hedgehog for me to realize what I had done! 😂

  • @jebdeb5181
    @jebdeb5181 ปีที่แล้ว +1164

    I’m just loving the reoccurring gag of alax entering the room in different weird ass ways everytime.

    • @HDGamerofficial
      @HDGamerofficial ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I do love that too but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss:
      WOW WAHOO GUH-HUH HOO HA HOO HUH COME ON BEEUTCH ITS SONIC SPEED

    • @Hugo-yz1vb
      @Hugo-yz1vb ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@HDGamerofficial IT'S SONIC SPEED solos

    • @user-eh2vi6lk7n
      @user-eh2vi6lk7n ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In this one it seems like just an hawaian shirt...
      Not a direct reference to something.

    • @criticalhit07
      @criticalhit07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@user-eh2vi6lk7n it was instant transmission

  • @lux3239
    @lux3239 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Honestly, I think its cool that there is so much video game music that is "stolen" from real world songs. In a way, its just a neat little reminder that everything we make intentionally or not is still inspired by our surroundings. I just think thats neat.

  • @Ninjacat25
    @Ninjacat25 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Y'know, game music taking heavy inspiration from other tunes, can kind of feel like a cool little easter egg and perhaps even give some insight into the composer's music taste.

  • @Yuti640
    @Yuti640 ปีที่แล้ว +797

    I love it when people reference old YTPs

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Same!!!
      I quote cs188, DaThings, and even my own YTPs way too often irl

    • @wezerd
      @wezerd ปีที่แล้ว +17

      my boy

    • @Beanman745
      @Beanman745 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      All toasters toast toast

    • @clamdeity
      @clamdeity ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ive gotten saying "die" in a CDI ganon voice down to a science

    • @Sophilautia
      @Sophilautia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like it's a common language that instantly connects so many of us lmao

  • @justcallmezudo
    @justcallmezudo ปีที่แล้ว +575

    I always like it when you talk about video game music or music in general in the channel, even if I comprehend nothing about music, the video still feels very informational while keeping the comedy top notch

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    _Super Mario World’s_ copying of “Green, Green” was unintentional, and Koji Kondo wasn’t aware he was doing it until after the fact.

    • @uh3610
      @uh3610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@harrybest2041use the * symbol

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah i know

    • @frkm3rt708
      @frkm3rt708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Instead of green green

    • @williamshakespeare8723
      @williamshakespeare8723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bullshit, given the fact that others were also stolen how can this be not, I think all were stolen intentionally. How are you gonna defend the other songs of mario, huh?

  • @remix7345
    @remix7345 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    12:16 to be fair every rockabilly song in a video game sounds like this

  • @_clout
    @_clout ปีที่แล้ว +365

    i love how ever since he found that clip of dk falling off the minecart and posted it on twitter he’s had it in every video since his return

    • @lrgogo1517
      @lrgogo1517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What? That can't be!

  • @Murnjendoof_too
    @Murnjendoof_too ปีที่แล้ว +733

    I am shocked, SHOCKED, that despite having Spamton in the thumbnail, you didn't mention that the main beat for NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A is virtually identical to the one seen in the Vile/Sigma Fortress Boss theme from Megaman X.

    • @picante403
      @picante403 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I second this

    • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
      @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj ปีที่แล้ว +18

      [Big Shot!]

    • @Ablayw
      @Ablayw ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Ironically Spamton in the thumbnail catched my attention first to click this video

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The Devil boss music in Cuphead is inspired by the Sigma fight in Mega Man X.

    • @camera2178
      @camera2178 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Similar segment of the song, but not enough to be a full copy.

  • @MONSTAboyGaming
    @MONSTAboyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Finding out the entire sonic 1 soundtrack was a whole bunch of songs I didn’t know was heartbreaking to me

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He skipped the regular boss, Scrap Brain Zone, and special stage music.

    • @MONSTAboyGaming
      @MONSTAboyGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@caucasoidape8838oh also green hill zone, game over, zone clear, title, ending, & credits. But otherwise…

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I feel you buddy, i'm honestly really depressed right now because I found the same about another franchise I really love

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@caucasoidape8838Scrap Brain Zone sounds similar to the Blade Runner end titles by Vangelis.

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I clicked because Sonic being a Smooth Criminal.

  • @Hal_142
    @Hal_142 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    for the sonic 1 stuff. I remember hearing the composer was a pop musician and he liked adding a pop style opening to the songs. which is why they sound like that and why the sonic soundtrack is so memorable.

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I prefer Sonic 1 and 2 music over what came later.

    • @MayomeSanz
      @MayomeSanz ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@caucasoidape8838 you clearly have never heard the Sonic 3k ost

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Dreams Come True was a popular J-pop band and they did the soundtrack for Sonic 1 and 2. Green Hill Zone was based on one of their songs called Sweet Sweet Sweet.

  • @Modtro64
    @Modtro64 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I love this sort of musical nonsense. Its so cool seeing songs that define so many fun memories and there are the cases where it's blantant plagarism, but the others feel more like these composers are putting bits of the music they grew up with, into these games and giving them a new sort of identity and something future generations can take inspiration from.

  • @tylerhurst1046
    @tylerhurst1046 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    The clip of DK falling never fails to get a laugh out of me no matter how many times I see it

  • @nicco7955
    @nicco7955 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    There’s really no such thing as plagiarism in music. Its one of the things that people in the popular eye get horribly wrong

    • @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
      @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Um, no, there is. 😐
      Sometimes it's just overextended.

    • @the-NightStar
      @the-NightStar ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Except when it was the guy who did the soundtrack for Dragon Ball Z Kai. That guy was an out-and-out thief.

    • @elmarakovideo
      @elmarakovideo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@the-NightStar It was cool when the US dub had to finally use the 1989 Shunsuke Kikuchi music, but the placement was lazy & repetitive! Kai music sounds great yet it was stolen.🙄

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-hercan we say there's a difference between for example, using almost the same 3 seconds of another song while the actual rest of song sounds different, and stuff like Challengers from DBZ budokai where it's literally just an instrumental version of a real song, right?

    • @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
      @ZaCloud-Animations___she-her 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ironmaster6496 Absolutely. Pretty much exemplifies my point.

  • @ProjectFrenzy
    @ProjectFrenzy ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It's so cool to me that the actual main drum groove from the original Knuckles theme is hidden inside the final version of Blood On The Dancefloor, in the chorus. It's used more as an accent in the final track but for Knux, it's the entire song base. It's cool to see it utilised in different ways based on the context

  • @CysmaWinheim
    @CysmaWinheim ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Thanks to Koji Kondo "borrowing" a few notes, I now enjoy listening to Japanese jazz-fusion.

    • @scottythegreat1
      @scottythegreat1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's how I got started with T-Square. The Adventures album and the New-S album are full of video game inspirations.

    • @CysmaWinheim
      @CysmaWinheim ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@scottythegreat1 Truth is another great album of theirs.

    • @RobinsMusic
      @RobinsMusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Casiopea is amazing

  • @The_Metal_Mechanic
    @The_Metal_Mechanic ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Thank you for mentioning Yamamoto. I discovered Stratovarius indirectly because of Budokai. I fell in love with Hunting High and Low in my teen years and it always felt super familiar to me. It wasn't until I heard about Yamamoto's plagarism scandal that I went through and found out that not only was that track stolen for Budokai, but 2 more songs from the same album were also stolen for Budokai. Finding out was somehow felt rewarding and hollow at the same time.

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it aggravates me that alax only focused on September in the video lmao

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MastaGambit The ending tho.

  • @bootlegbison3758
    @bootlegbison3758 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been studying music for the past 2 years so far because I love video game music. Accidentally plagiarising music is something that scares me sooo much. I once had a song idea that I let sit in my head for a while, until I wrote it down and immediately realised I was literally copying the melody to "The Clock Tower" from dead cell without even remembering that's where it came from. I really wanna make some bops but I have so many inspirations I'm a bit scared of just straight up ripping off a song.

  • @dilflover69x97
    @dilflover69x97 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    10:01 this part was in Henry Stickmin series somewhere too one of the endings I think

    • @ChannelIsNotInUse
      @ChannelIsNotInUse 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And now I suddenly hear Ghost Inmate when I listen to this. I cannot believe it was influenced/plagiarized

    • @MusicianNrd
      @MusicianNrd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChannelIsNotInUseIt was actually remixed by 3lation on Newgrounds and TH-cam

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Apparently music is literally the main thing holding back Mother 3 from being localized; not dissimilar to how rarely Sonic 3 got rereleased (or its music referenced).
    And that's because one of the causes for it is the same. Japan can get away with ITS Mother 3 rereleases because the copyright laws on music are much more lenient apparently, but the game has several key compositions taken from western pop culture; INCLUDING the man, MJ himself, with M3's Natural Killer Robot sounding like the hit title Beat It (one of my personal childhood favorite).
    And that's without counting all the other songs it likely "stole" from (we don't know if it's an actual steal for any of them but apparently there's strong similarities). The Mother/EarthBound series in general did that quite a lot, but because the first two games were in an era where you couldn't really tell whether it was direct samplings or just inspirations, they're given more of a pass because most of them are transformative shorter snippets. Mother 3 does not have that luxury, as it does it for several kinds of songs, short or not, transformed or not, with NKR being the icing on the cake (it's a battle theme for a boss fight; it's clearly neither short nor transformative).

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I love how despite having less than 100k views (not even 90k) feels like everyone watched the same video, kind of tells how small and concentrated the community actually is for it to seemingly feel like everyone knows about this now.

    • @NikolasN64
      @NikolasN64 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yea, just saw a video about this on “Moon Channel”’s account. Crazy bruh I thought it was the other suspicious things about the game

    • @crittr
      @crittr ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A large portion of Sanctuary Guardian from Mother 2 sounds incredibly similar to the intro theme of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

  • @EpsilonZolton
    @EpsilonZolton ปีที่แล้ว +154

    i knew about green greens , sonic 3 and dooms music but just seeing the expanse of it across the entire video game library is astounding
    however songs like these are the reason that sillva gunner exists

  • @20035079
    @20035079 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3:00 this was so clean tho

  • @czmmpower3005
    @czmmpower3005 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    12:51 HOW DARE YOU! RUIN THE MARBLE ZONE THEME FOR ME! WHHYYYYYYYY!?

  • @yuikitsuneko
    @yuikitsuneko ปีที่แล้ว +93

    One example I really like is the Touhou Project series. A lot of the songs ZUN makes, especially the older ones, sound like they are nods to other songs. My favorite example the theme of Momiji Inubashiri(the awoo meme girl) and how it sounds just like a song called Song in Blue! There's a lot of other similar examples in the series and I really recommend you check them out!

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I always wondered why he managed to make so many different melodies. I guess that's why.

    • @somefries3101
      @somefries3101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remilia's theme

    • @yuikitsuneko
      @yuikitsuneko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@somefries3101 Context?

    • @somefries3101
      @somefries3101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yuikitsuneko beethoven

    • @marx4538
      @marx4538 ปีที่แล้ว

      Song in blue for a primarily red-colored character

  • @glowkirby
    @glowkirby ปีที่แล้ว +11

    13:32 The name of the song is “Love Won’t Wait”, earlier in the same album.

  • @Shattered_Spirit
    @Shattered_Spirit ปีที่แล้ว +12

    8:16 you can't run forever..

  • @Da_Boeh7312
    @Da_Boeh7312 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love your coverage of such a wide variety of music genres and groups, I'd love to see this formatt of video on the channel more frequently

  • @gribblegrape6496
    @gribblegrape6496 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    A recent example of this I personally really like is the similarities between the intros to, orb of dreamers from 2008’s Littlebigplanet. And chirp from 2011’s Minecraft. There was some talk about c418, the composer of Minecraft plagiarizing from ( I believe his name was Daniel Pemberton ) the composer of lbp. But the truth is that they both just ripped a sound loop from apple’s garage band app and called it a day. lol
    As someone who adores both series, and came to the conclusion that one copied the other long before I ever heard anything online about it, that’s a very funny end to that story.

    • @tahutoa
      @tahutoa ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the loop might come from the mellotron

  • @chi-wind8593
    @chi-wind8593 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    13:21:My same reaction, I listened to that many times. I can’t believe that I did not make that connection.

  • @jdh9419
    @jdh9419 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    12:11 Wrong game. You meant to show a cartridge of Super Mario Bros. 2 USA

    • @kurokoro
      @kurokoro ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol thats earthbound and in japan is known as mother.

  • @Sean_Bird
    @Sean_Bird ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of my favorite examples of this is from Garou: Mark of the Wolves, where Rock Howard's theme, Spread the Wings, has part of Robert Miles' song Children in it, and it's pretty blatant too. It's likely why the song hasn't ever been reused for Rock in his later appearances, giving him new original themes instead.

  • @abicto
    @abicto ปีที่แล้ว +50

    surprised that you didn't mention pretty much the entire mother 3 ost considering people theorize that its why it wasn't ported

  • @militariuspcgamer3856
    @militariuspcgamer3856 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    new thumb-man vid!!11!!!

  • @coolguy5133
    @coolguy5133 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I am no music genius nor lawyer, but I am pretty sure copy cord progression is not plagiarism.

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It should be be but ever since blurred lines music copyright suits have tightened the restrictions
      Ed did end up winning his case bjf it took a lot of fighting

  • @Plaston_
    @Plaston_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Taking "inspirations" is a thing every composers tend to do and i think it quite beneficial when you need some help to get more creative.

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And some people think that's plagiarism.

  • @expandulardongus360
    @expandulardongus360 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    10:08 An AD cut off the fart with reverb which made it funnier

  • @austinreed5805
    @austinreed5805 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    14:00
    Oh boy!
    Now we’re into Sonic and Michael Jackson.

  • @ThisisTheUltimate
    @ThisisTheUltimate ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I actually have seen already a lot of Sonic songs that are inspired or have the same melody as other songs, I have created a private playlist just for that actually, lol, some of those in the video I already knew, but I found some new ones too, cool!
    The ones that I already had on my playlist, here just to share, are these:
    Peter Piper (Run DMC) - Launch Base Zone (Sonic 3) (both melody and "Go!" samples)
    Americana (The Offspring) - Won't Stop, Just Go!/Green Forest (Sonic Adventure 2)
    Ghetto Red Hot (Super Cat, especifically the Hip Hop Mix) - Red Mountain (inside part)/Red Hot Skull (Sonic Adventure)
    Push The Feeling On (Nightcrawlers) - Reactive Factory/Work it Out (Sonic R)
    Step Daughter (Casiopea) - Bridge Zone (Sonic 1 GG and SMS)/Believe in Myself (Sonic Adventure) (that already sounds like Bridge Zone)
    Music Sounds Better With You (Stardust) - Dreams of an Absolution (Silver's theme, Sonic 06)
    I also got some tracks that are just samples used in Sonic Songs instead of melodies, like used in Sonic CD or Sonic Rush ("Work that Sucker to Death" and "Feeling Hot, hot, hot", just some examples)
    Also, I already knew some of the Nintendo ones too, and discovered some news as well, also pretty nice

  • @GardenCelluloids
    @GardenCelluloids ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:35 that is objectively a great song

  • @dooki51
    @dooki51 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I think my favorite example of really weird blantant style rip-offs is Mujoe’s theme in the Bomberman Jetters anime. It’s very similar to a certain comedy show about nothing.

  • @RyderMK
    @RyderMK ปีที่แล้ว +17

    7:12
    Now I just wanna hear the two mixed together

  • @ivanguajardomunoz940
    @ivanguajardomunoz940 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    8:56 The part where he collapsed absolutely made me laugh xD

  • @DaThingy
    @DaThingy ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like the way that they changed Sonic 3 & Knuckles' music in most compilations while Sonic 1 has more songs that actually sound like their original song lol.

  • @jordy_de-zee
    @jordy_de-zee ปีที่แล้ว +15

    1:13 "WA-HAT?" that was my reaction

  • @Wooly4
    @Wooly4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    One I’m really surprised you didn’t mention is the Mario Bros. game start jingle just straight up being Mozart’s Eine Kleine Nachtmusik. Although with a name like that…

    • @Chubby_Bub
      @Chubby_Bub ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I mean that one's just _supposed_ to be that piece, it's not even a nod or anything.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The composer making that jingle and showing it to quality assurance like: "Keep it down, so I can win the loot!" (/ref)

  • @Jader47
    @Jader47 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    3:10 Peppino scream meme

  • @rickyquinteros7100
    @rickyquinteros7100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:37 That is oddly so accurate

  • @CyberYeast75
    @CyberYeast75 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Still can’t wait for Alax to make a Pizza Tower video

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Video Game OSTs having inspiration from existing songs is always a fascinating topic, and it's more than likely THE thing keeping MOTHER 3 from being released in the West. MOTHER 2 and 3 have SO many songs that take from existing songs, it's almost baffling how they got away with it all. I think it's something to do with international copyright laws, but man does it suck that MOTHER 3 will be stuck in Japan thanks to it. (Yes, there are other smaller factors as well, but it's likely that the music is the main thing keeping it in Japan)

  • @CrisisMoon7
    @CrisisMoon7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    14:53 Hard Times is un ironically one of my favorite songs

  • @deklin90thegod
    @deklin90thegod ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:32 Is so inspiring i am going to make a whole paragraph on it

  • @souptaels
    @souptaels ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Local man finds out nothing is original
    New title: "Video Game Music Inspirations", but I guess it's more "TH-cam" to say they "stole" music lol

  • @xProErax
    @xProErax ปีที่แล้ว +69

    0:14 I can now confirm that this is now the "thanks 5 watching" of Alax's new era of content

  • @BewbsOP
    @BewbsOP ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:53 is it just me or is that don't stop believin' by journey

  • @dwightdeisenhower53
    @dwightdeisenhower53 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Toby's defense, the scene with Oh My Love was a spoof of the opera scene from final fantasy VI

  • @Chubby_Bub
    @Chubby_Bub ปีที่แล้ว +19

    please keep making videos like this I need to inject them straight into my mind like it's chicken soup. Which means it's time for me to go on a rant (well, at the end of the video, you asked for it). Here is some of what I can offer in this regards:
    I can tell you while K.K. Slider's songs obviously have inspiration because they're meant to represent different genres as a whole, probably like half of them are blatantly inspired by or directly quoting a famous song from that genre. Toru Minegishi and Kazumi Totaka well knew what they were doing. Some examples:
    - K.K. Faire and Tancha Mebushi (Okinawan folk song)
    - K.K. Condor and Carnavalito (Chilean folk song, these are basically the exact same)
    - Rockin' K.K. and "Johnny B. Goode", again
    - Steep Hill and "Ichigo Hakusho o Mōichido"/"The Strawberry Statement Once Again" (Japanese folk rock song by BanBan)
    - K.K. Moody (aka K.K. Bolero) and "Sabor a Mí" (bolero by Álvaro Carillo)
    - K.K. Chorinho and "Tico Tico no Fubá" (choro by Zequinha de Abreu, these are also near identical)
    - Hazure02 (invalid song #2) and "Sparkle" (city pop by Tatsuro Yamashita)
    Not to mention lots of other general references, like "Two Days Ago" and the Beatles.
    Aside from that I also like how Mario Maker's edit themes get a bit cheeky, SMB1 Underground resembles "Take Five" (even though it's in 6/4) and SMB1 Underwater quotes Juventino Rosa's waltz "Sobre las Olas" so well I can't help but wonder if it originally inspired Kondo, especially given the meaning…

  • @grimer1746
    @grimer1746 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Mario underground theme led to me finding one of my new favorite albums

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Toby Fox stealing musical motifs is proof that he's the spirit of Spamton.

    • @scatcat8371
      @scatcat8371 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Toby has two forms.
      1) Dog
      2) [[Big Shot]]

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't steal.

    • @TheAdvertisement
      @TheAdvertisement 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Diogo85 Does Spamton steal?

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAdvertisement I haven't played Snowgrave route so I wouldn't know.

    • @TheAdvertisement
      @TheAdvertisement 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Diogo85 💀

  • @ItsSiebay
    @ItsSiebay ปีที่แล้ว +18

    There’s a reason why Sonic music always hits.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm starting that every videogame that has GODLY music is only because they borrowed from pop songs (wither popular or obscure), i mean Megaman and a personal favorite of mine did this too

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ironmaster6496Not every but fun fact, there's a chord progression of Seek and Destroy and the Flashman theme in Sonic 06's town mission 4 theme.

  • @actone4822
    @actone4822 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One similarity that I know between two games is a brief musical phrase in Sonic R's "Living in the City" which is also in Persona 3's "When Moon's Reaching Out Stars". You can find this in the former in the phrase "you have to keep the dream alive" and in the latter in the phrase "Wonder how look in your eyes". Not exact, but close enough for conedy

    • @azurestone
      @azurestone ปีที่แล้ว

      Forgive me if I'm wrong but this case may make sense due to how if I remember correctly Persona is made by SEGA. Which would explain that LOL! That is pretty cool act one and thanks for pointing that out!

    • @LonelyNumber
      @LonelyNumber ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azurestone I don't think atlus had been aquired by sega yet at that point.

  • @JenukiDa
    @JenukiDa ปีที่แล้ว +45

    i love how you recreate the songs with the respect game’s soundfont it’s super duper charming

    • @HalfBreadOrder
      @HalfBreadOrder ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ?

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@HalfBreadOrderI believe they meant to say the game's respective sound font, so like if it's a Mario song, they use the instruments from the Mario game.

  • @a-bombmori7393
    @a-bombmori7393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video, because it not only brings attention to a very real problem that many people might not be aware of, but also explains how some examples of it have been overblown. It's nice to have that kind of nuance.

  • @superrupee
    @superrupee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Earthbound isn't surprising that game is full of references to popculture, but with all these others you are a walking playlist that can link song to other songs, the song encyclopedia

  • @analog_mart
    @analog_mart ปีที่แล้ว +36

    a few songs also fall under the same umbrella as "Hard Times" due to Masato Nakamura being both the composer for the first two sonic games, as well as part of a band called "Dreams Come True". the credits theme from sonic 2 is the same as a song called "Sweet Sweet Sweet" or "Sweet Dream" in english, which was updated for the credits of sonic 06 (featuring Akon, funnily enough)

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It sucks that Sonic Team can't use the title, or zone complete music that the first two games had.

    • @PKSuperStar256
      @PKSuperStar256 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@caucasoidape8838, or basically any music from Sonic 1 and 2 except the drowning theme since it was created by an in-house sound designer from Sega.

  • @matthulu
    @matthulu ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mor Ardain's theme from Xenoblade 2 takes from 3 completely different songs. The most prominent is the chorus to Thriller, but you can also hear a bit of Dancing Queen and Crab Rave in there too.

  • @myrigatoni
    @myrigatoni ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a good video, my favorite one you’ve made so far. Would love a part 2!

  • @UltraNurture
    @UltraNurture ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I learned a lot from this video and I'm a huge fan of the music content you've been making. It's very interesting to what songs some video game tracks used as inspiration.

  • @jevilplayer6335
    @jevilplayer6335 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    11:11 another great example is how the original lavender town on 1.75 speed matches gaster's theme

    • @keithmorrison8373
      @keithmorrison8373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probaly intetional toby fox interpolates song alot

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:00
    "The Only time a month was copied was when Augustus Caesar copied July"

  • @danilosVEVO
    @danilosVEVO ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this video was such a rollercoaster of emotions for me, I've been listening to this songs for my whole life and never knew anything of this, I'm so glad I clicked on this video, excellent work my guy I'm totally suscribing

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:58
    Is this gonna explain why it always sounded so familia- o... okay then. I definitely never heard that before... Back to the drawing board then

  • @abetternamethanthat6273
    @abetternamethanthat6273 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    9:54 Hi, weirdos. Here's another prank, but this one involves Ice Cube instead of Bubble. Just take the Ice Cube Recovery Center, and just carry over the edge of a cliff, maybe, with a tree, yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah. That's mandatory. And attach a spring from the tree to the Ice Cube Recovery Center, and then, melt Ice Cube. Melting kills her, right? (yeah) okay, good. Ice Cube is recreated, in the Ice Cube Recovery Center, she'll like weigh it down and the Ice Cube Recovery Center will tilt down off the cliff, and Ice Cube will fall out and she'll crash to the bottom of the cliff and Ice Cube is recreated in the Ice Cube Recovery Center, she'll like weigh it down and Ice Cube Recovery Center will tilt down off the cliff, and the cycle repeats! Yeah, isn't that cool? Pretty funny? (This program, was brought to you, by Blocky's Funny Doings International)

    • @CoinClever
      @CoinClever ปีที่แล้ว +4

      blocky = spamton

    • @little_sponge.
      @little_sponge. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i knew i recognized from somewhere

    • @Wall_nut77
      @Wall_nut77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Knew that i recognised it

    • @Spongyboi897
      @Spongyboi897 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BFDI fans unite!

    • @Nobel-1384
      @Nobel-1384 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BFDI!!!!!

  • @Wahooski
    @Wahooski ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of my favorite games, Pikuniku, for its ending, uses a slower version of “Here comes the sun” my the Beatles. This is probably by favorite uses of the song ever. It makes the ending seem so wholesome, almost like the robots are leaving from the sky and opening it up to see the blue skies shine down

    • @supercamborg4218
      @supercamborg4218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I need to replay that game

    • @Hulderkall
      @Hulderkall ปีที่แล้ว

      YES THIS ONE
      Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed it

  • @9Tensai9
    @9Tensai9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:12 Nichojou mentioned!!
    I was thinking about that exactly. That was my introduction to that song. I love you Alax.
    I also loooove this kind of videos talking about music inspiration and crossrefferencing and all that.
    I'm so happy to have you back Alax

  • @LoraCoggins
    @LoraCoggins ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “What do they want to do? Create a new key called H?” Germany: *looks off to the side*

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Loving this regular content, man. Keep it coming. 🎉

  • @Boostifer
    @Boostifer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is easily like
    top 5 RelaxAlax videos, your love and attention to these sorta things is INFECTIOUS. Defs would be interested in hearing you talk about connecting details like this

  • @holgerlarsson7531
    @holgerlarsson7531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! Like your “videogame samples” video, it quite an unexplored topic and on fascinating to delve into. Now I have a bunch of new music to explore that remind me of thing i already like, thank you!

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15:03 I always knew this one, that and the Green Green mario thing...

  • @247MrNiceguy
    @247MrNiceguy ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your videos are always good but I really enjoyed this one. I learned a lot and it was fun listening to all the similarities in the songs I thought I knew

    • @dds4891
      @dds4891 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

  • @redshyguynumber5567
    @redshyguynumber5567 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Did anyone else feel a sponsorship? 10:48

  • @mikhaeldarriens3810
    @mikhaeldarriens3810 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who spends a lot of time watching random video essays, I really took "in conclusion.. why does everything always come back to sonic" way too much to heart

  • @PoggersGoblin
    @PoggersGoblin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The FF7 one made me think about the similarities between it and part of the opening of "for whom the bell tolls" by Metallica, specifically around 1:50 and further until the lyrics hit.

    • @PoggersGoblin
      @PoggersGoblin ปีที่แล้ว

      I now realize this could be something that they took from because it came out 13 years before ff7

  • @trondordoesstuff
    @trondordoesstuff ปีที่แล้ว +7

    11:20 On the subject, compare Final Fantasy's "Who Are You?" to "Gaster's Theme" and "ANOTHER HIM".

  • @Frostflame
    @Frostflame ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gosh the edit at 0:34 is AMAZING, that slapped

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ever since I found out Budokai’s ost was full of plagiarized music my whole world was changed.

  • @josiahtheawkward6008
    @josiahtheawkward6008 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    12:00 NOOOOO

  • @cakeghoul
    @cakeghoul ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another example of this is Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines' menu theme is is extremely similar to Angel by Massive Attack. This is because during production they used the song as a placeholder menu theme and it fit the vibe of the game so well, the composer for the game was inspired by that song for the actual menu theme. This inspiration also carries over to the (as of now) unreleased sequel, which has had it's menu theme released on youtube.

  • @Fool_Bait
    @Fool_Bait ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A great question is how did you find all these songs. Like this is an impressive amount of research.

  • @lilwater4718
    @lilwater4718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm absolutely in love with the music content. Please keep making more

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:52 it’s just so in character for him to do that lmao, fucking plagiarize a song for himself!
    BRILLIANT!

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is my #1 fear with composing in my music side-hobby. My first album ended up having some of the worst, most melodically-unsatisfying songs I've ever heard because I was so paranoid with people accusing me of stealing other songs, and prioritizing originality over actually sounding good.
    I used a(n unadjusted, might I add,) clarinet as a bass in one of them, and the mix was awful. The song was mainly on string instruments, but somehow the layer that shares a name with the string category specialized to it was just _too_ cliché for me at the time of making it.
    Not complaining about the video itself though, it only proves my current opinion. Awesome video as always.

    • @ehhorve857
      @ehhorve857 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YOU should look- I mean listen to cruelty squad and the Quake musics, they both do this thing, squad more-so, where they make melodically unsatisfying song that you WANT to listen to, like, pharmakinetics, it just goes BEE-da-da-DE-DE be-DEE-BEE-de de BAAAAAAGERRRRGEEEEBEEEEE tunununun TUNUNUNUN *TUNUNUNUN*
      (10 seconds of silence)
      *BWANANANA* BWANANANA *BWAAAAAAAA*
      seriously, people say that making music is a gift? making tonally HARSH and dissonant skreeching that people WILLINGLY listen to is a bountiful BLESSING.

  • @Aliashavoc
    @Aliashavoc ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Speaking of Zelda can we talk about how the dungeon theme in Zelda 2 is heavily inspired by Looks that kill by Motley Crue?

  • @MarxSuperstar96
    @MarxSuperstar96 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9:45 did you call?

    • @SPAMTON249
      @SPAMTON249 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spamtong

    • @Xenon_XTH
      @Xenon_XTH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      $PAMTON G. $PAMTON

  • @PhilTruthborne
    @PhilTruthborne ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my eyes and as a creator myself i see copying people (to a reasonable extent) more as a form of admiration. There is a **huge** difference in taking someone's work and using it to make things easier for yourself compared to taking inspiration from something, remixing it or hell, ever covering it. Making something that sounds similar to something already existing but that still has had conciderable work put into it is a tribute more than anything else. In this world of media we are all inspired by eachother.
    Now i got to add tho that intentions matter a lot here and there are very real and blatant examples of plagiarism out there and that's not okay. If it's not an act of passion, but of laziness, then there's not much to appreciate more than someone copying your homework back in the school days.
    Tho to make things clear, i don't do these things myself in my works but i do support it as long as it's done in good faith and doesn't cause any real problems or harm.
    Modern copyright laws are a disgrace to art.