Always enjoy your reviews Ozzie. Especially the different action types that I will never see in the States. Although I did run across an Adler at a gun show. I was the only one in my group that knew what it was!
Yeah I can understand that mate, most people here in Australia wouldn’t even bother with other actions if they permitted semi autos again for general use
I wish lithgows were more common here in the USA. Their has been a couple that has really caught my attention. For sure some of the heavy barrel options.
Brad Daley I’ve yet to see a Lithgow Arms made rifle here in Canada. I suppose that has to do with the quality of their product and that they sell out to the locals! One day? If I survive this Coronavirus scare!? Oh...LIFE!?
Thanks as always for the no BS review Ozzie. With groups like that plus the issues with the mag I'd take a Tikka T3X for half that price any day of the week. Thanks for sharing!
Your review came at a great time. I was just looking at picking one up. Thanks for the food for thought, as there is not enough videos on it out there.
Good review. To be fare it isn't intended to be super accurate, its a very fast action driven game rifle. The price is at the low end compared with other fast, short throw or straight pull European driven game rifles. Its designed for the European driven game shooting market, which is snap shooting at close to medium range with fast follow up shots. I'd like one but, im not rich, ill stick to my Howa and Remington
I dont know why but i actually like the copyright text on the screen during shooting. I guess i feel happy knowing that people won't steal the footage.
I hope you just got a dodgy one I've been wanting one of these for a while but I can't bring myself to get it if the accuracy is worse than that of my ruger predator .223 for like 4x the price at least the ruger can keep it under moa with factory's and if I gotta reload to get it to be under an inch I don't want to waste my time with a rifle like that may as well buy a sako or two tikka's lol for the same price great review thank you very much for making it I think you just saved me 3k
Just bought a mauser M18 308 for$700. You can buy 4 Mausers with change or 1 French rifle with issue now and down the track. You can't beat a Mauser for reliability
hey Ozzie, I have a question that's bugging me. I noticed your spread in projectile weights was pretty wide, but wouldn't the twist rate of the rifle have a big influence on the accuracy of the cartridge? so, if 130 grain is its thing, would it follow then, to test a range of bullets in that weight?
Is it just me or is that a loose screw on the rear scope ring (11:35)? Could be a potential factor with accuracy not being up to scratch. Cheers for the review Ozzie, keep up the good work mate.
I went to buy a new scope the other day and the guy at the gun shop told be there was a new Australian company. I asked where it was made. Answer China. I ended up with t Zeiss
I hope some other manufacturer will make a better quality gas system lever action like this for the recoil reduction without needing a muzzle brake, as we cant have suppressors. Wedgetail should do it as they're already making Aussie semi auto's.
I can confirm these rifles are not very accurate guys thats why i got rid of mine. It seems the rifle upon either the reload or the extract would dint the next case in the magazine. This was for 300 win. Suprising i couldnt get groups any better than 1.5 for 3 shots and would get worse. Even at 200 i was having regular misses. Single loaded it and would shoot better but not great. Their a turkey get a maral.
Not cheap however the Aud is in very bad shape!...expect to pay big money in the comings weeks for all import. Others had better luck in the accuracy department with the VC specially with monolithic projectiles but it is not design to be a stalking rifle... It is for the battue style of hunting and chasing running animals where you have to take multiples shots at moving games very rarely past 100m where it excels (in EU the average distance for shooting game is 85/90 m) Operate way faster then strait pull, not to compare with bolt action. Usually 308 is not well regarded in Europe (it is not my view before insulting me ;) for hunting they go for bigger bore or faster like 300WM or 7RM (both chamber in this VC. Thank you for the video Ozzie!
Dont see the point, even if you cant get a semi-auto. For a driven type hunt a BLR is not that much slower, A slick Bolt action or straight pull does great anyway IF you just practise This 1/4-auto still got the potential issues of a semi
Yeah Bee well I agree that for the price it should be a lot more rifle. But the action does allow you to stay on the scope better than even a BLR does. A pump action would be the best option but i know they are a different category down under
Yeah Bee you do. And I’m not trying to argue lol. But in my opinion when hunting and making a follow up shot staying on the stock and on the scope is more important than having to break your grip when cycling the action.
Very interesting that it liked the federal ammo that little bit more than the hornady which I thought was a more premium product. Also will you be doing a review on the CZ - 515 when they are release into the country around august ? If so and it’s possible can you review the .22wmr wood stock version please.
Accuracy and 'stumbling magazine,..those two points along would stop me from being a 'happy camper' IF I fork out that kind of money for a rifle like this. If we pay good money for a rifle should we not expect to get better than this? Has the dealer/manufacturer offered any resolution to these issues to date Ozzie?
They can have a CATASTROPHIC failure! Should cycle it really fast🤑😢 Keep up the good work boss ya vids are awesome👌🏻 ? Anymore footage of wild dogs vs ya varmint stick?😁
Stephen Thompson good point. Brand new rifle? I didn’t hear whether or not he had a chance to put many/ANY rounds down range prior to filming this review, (which he usually does-but those tend to be MUCH higher quality and enjoyably fired rifles). I’m left with an empty feeling. However, I still love this channel and can’t wait to see an Anschutz Fortner (22lr) reviewed. Perhaps there’s already one that I’ve somehow missed?
@@CrazyDog651 "Exactly right" we accidentaly found out the hard way after about 20 rounds.I have it on video and I will post my review when it returns from the gun smith ?.
mrbikehunter Keen to see it I’m currently in the market for a .223 lever release and I’m probably going to have a gunsmith convert a straight pull into one and when doing research I found that out about the Verney Carron.
@@CrazyDog651 after viewing the Verney Carron advertising video where they recommend you actually rest your thumb on the release lever i foolishly believed they had made the rifle so as not to cause a catastrophic malfunction (i was Deceived) because its not a matter of IF it will happen its WHEN.
Would have been interesting to see the forend come off and take a look at the gas piston setup it uses. 308 must be new as I thought they didn't make this rile in military calibers.
@@SpaghettiFPV-tg3qh Too big of rounds for it to be blow back otherwise the bolt would have to be so much heavier just to get it to extract at a safe pressure. This is a rotating bolt with a gas piston which is located under the barrel.
Seriously, i dont understand the bullshit with semi autos. Why not a compromise, three shot semi auto centrefire in oz. Mini 14, ar15 or whatever but you can only have three shots then reload? Models can only fit new magazines that can only take three shots or even two. What do you think guys?
So $2995 for this or $3200 for a DSA FAL? If I was going to dump 3g on a rifle I am sure I would want to be shooting as a profession and allowed D class.
You would get better detail of the rifle in your desktop review if your bench was a darker colour. Your camera is overcompensating for the light background making the subject a little too dark. Otherwise I enjoy your reviews, keep it up.
What does a chassis'd Howa 1500 cost in Australia? And what happens if you keep the release lever held down ? Will it cycle , I'm certain you've tried..
I think you're being too fair. That kind of accuracy is just shit. Especially from a $3000 rifle and factory ammo. If you have to rely on reloads to get serviceable accuracy from a rifle it's no good. I don't think you can blame it on the 4x optic either. 4x is plenty for shooting accurately at 100m.
I bought one. Value for money was not a consideration. Tack driving was also not a consideration. What is important for me shooting off hand from a motorcycle at close range is the speed of a follow up shot/reloading. This rifle makes all others (except semi-automatic) obsolete. Period
Great video as always but please lets not adopt the Americanism of saying price "point" every time we talk about the cost of something. Just say "price". That alone is easily understood. Americans can't talk about the price of something without saying "price point" for some reason... ???
A SEVEN pound PLASTIC rifle? Kinda crazy! Cool lever...gimmicky? Dare I say that? Knowing that your gun laws will probably inspire the madman/substitute drama teacher who is Canada’s Prime Minister, I should be more careful! I’m guessing that French isn’t taught in Australia? Myanmar is probably one of the closest countries to Oz that spoke French-I’m curious to know if they still speak French there? Probably NOT. Quite the spread on this rifle-to the magazine load part, which is the end.
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Check out our review of the Warwick Firearms WFA1-L in 223: th-cam.com/video/98ke7zlBhPk/w-d-xo.html
That rifle is one way to bypass semi-auto bans
Always enjoy your reviews Ozzie. Especially the different action types that I will never see in the States. Although I did run across an Adler at a gun show. I was the only one in my group that knew what it was!
Yeah I can understand that mate, most people here in Australia wouldn’t even bother with other actions if they permitted semi autos again for general use
@@ozziereviews Greetings from the states.
Do you think 3d printing tech could eventually solve that problem?
Just give us our semi autos, members of Parliament.
Take your freedom back. It’s not theirs to give.
bit ordinary you can buy two lithgows for that. Also they are Australian made and deadly accurate.
I wish lithgows were more common here in the USA. Their has been a couple that has really caught my attention. For sure some of the heavy barrel options.
Brad Daley I’ve yet to see a Lithgow Arms made rifle here in Canada. I suppose that has to do with the quality of their product and that they sell out to the locals! One day? If I survive this Coronavirus scare!? Oh...LIFE!?
Thanks as always for the no BS review Ozzie. With groups like that plus the issues with the mag I'd take a Tikka T3X for half that price any day of the week. Thanks for sharing!
Your review came at a great time. I was just looking at picking one up. Thanks for the food for thought, as there is not enough videos on it out there.
Good review. To be fare it isn't intended to be super accurate, its a very fast action driven game rifle. The price is at the low end compared with other fast, short throw or straight pull European driven game rifles. Its designed for the European driven game shooting market, which is snap shooting at close to medium range with fast follow up shots. I'd like one but, im not rich, ill stick to my Howa and Remington
I would like to see an Australian manufacturer make something like this
Honestly would just like to see a bit more affordable gun like this, would be nice if it was Australia but would most likely cost a lot
I dont know why but i actually like the copyright text on the screen during shooting. I guess i feel happy knowing that people won't steal the footage.
the media will to try and get it banned
solid review
Thanks mate that means a lot coming from a solid channel like yours 👍💪
Really nice rifle, nice action and the accuracy of a El-Cheapo 2nd hand AK 47. And a $3,000 price tag. What more could a hunter want.
I looked at these in my local gun shop. Glad I saw this review. It looks like junk.
That’s a nice rifle. THANKS for keeping real CHAMPION!!!
Pretty pleased to see all that green behind you Ozzie. Cheers for the video.
You and me both mate, it’s been looking bad for a long time now...
@@ozziereviews Glad we're not facing both bushfire/drought and Covid19 for my stock.
I've got a walnut stock in 300wm and I LOVE it!
I hope you just got a dodgy one I've been wanting one of these for a while but I can't bring myself to get it if the accuracy is worse than that of my ruger predator .223 for like 4x the price at least the ruger can keep it under moa with factory's and if I gotta reload to get it to be under an inch I don't want to waste my time with a rifle like that may as well buy a sako or two tikka's lol for the same price great review thank you very much for making it I think you just saved me 3k
I’d honestly prefer a high quality bolt action myself
@@ozziereviews sadly I have to agree its just not worth the price tag
Ranger Raptor of the gun world. Does it a bit better than a 20 year old hilux but you know the bloke in the hilux isn't worried about scratching his.
great review, the accuracy of this rifle is..... toy grade.
Just bought a mauser M18 308 for$700. You can buy 4 Mausers with change or 1 French rifle with issue now and down the track. You can't beat a Mauser for reliability
Fast shooter, smooth recoil and now... 10 rounds mag. On my shopping list!
Can you do a review on Henry’s model X in .357? Looks bad ass! You’d have heaps of fun with it
Mate for $3,000 it simply doesn’t cut the mustard. They have not been a good selling firearm in Australia
hey Ozzie, I have a question that's bugging me. I noticed your spread in projectile weights was pretty wide, but wouldn't the twist rate of the rifle have a big influence on the accuracy of the cartridge? so, if 130 grain is its thing, would it follow then, to test a range of bullets in that weight?
Is it just me or is that a loose screw on the rear scope ring (11:35)? Could be a potential factor with accuracy not being up to scratch. Cheers for the review Ozzie, keep up the good work mate.
yep, my verney shoots sub-moa even with 135gr winchester hollowpoints
Action looks to be like butter, but for 3k that accuracy is sub par at best.
I went to buy a new scope the other day and the guy at the gun shop told be there was a new Australian company. I asked where it was made. Answer China. I ended up with t Zeiss
"For $3000..." "1 and a half inches..." That's gonna be a nope from me.
Origami
it actually shoots sub-moa
@evo3bro what ammo did you find works best?
Ozzie, your review helped me to save my money. I will make a contribution in return. Thank you.
It’s always greatly appreciated
@@ozziereviews Can't find any payment details Ozzie, where should I look?
Dmitri I www.patreon.com/ozziereviews
I hope some other manufacturer will make a better quality gas system lever action like this for the recoil reduction without needing a muzzle brake, as we cant have suppressors. Wedgetail should do it as they're already making Aussie semi auto's.
I think the price has more to do with the development of the action, rather than the quality of the barrel.
Thanks for the review Ozzie.
Bang for buck, it’s a big NO from me.
I can confirm these rifles are not very accurate guys thats why i got rid of mine. It seems the rifle upon either the reload or the extract would dint the next case in the magazine. This was for 300 win. Suprising i couldnt get groups any better than 1.5 for 3 shots and would get worse. Even at 200 i was having regular misses. Single loaded it and would shoot better but not great. Their a turkey get a maral.
It's a whole lotta meh from this review. For $1000 yeah it would be alright but for $3000 not acceptable.
Even for 1k that is shit group, a howa, or ruger will usually group better than that and cost way less
Nice work with the copyright Ozzie
Reminds me of my .270 7600 down to the Leupold LPVO, but my 7600 can do sub-1" at 100. Looks like a good fit for close-up hog hunting at least.
2-3in groups, a mag that needs to be tapped so no jams and 3k asking price....to many other rifles without issues
Not cheap however the Aud is in very bad shape!...expect to pay big money in the comings weeks for all import.
Others had better luck in the accuracy department with the VC specially with monolithic projectiles but it is not design to be a stalking rifle... It is for the battue style of hunting and chasing running animals where you have to take multiples shots at moving games very rarely past 100m where it excels (in EU the average distance for shooting game is 85/90 m) Operate way faster then strait pull, not to compare with bolt action. Usually 308 is not well regarded in Europe (it is not my view before insulting me ;) for hunting they go for bigger bore or faster like 300WM or 7RM (both chamber in this VC.
Thank you for the video Ozzie!
The problem with both those rounds is they are not cheap or as available as a 308!
Dont see the point, even if you cant get a semi-auto.
For a driven type hunt a BLR is not that much slower,
A slick Bolt action or straight pull does great anyway IF you just practise
This 1/4-auto still got the potential issues of a semi
Yikes, rifles 1/4of the cost of that leave a sub Moa guarantue
Yeah Bee well I agree that for the price it should be a lot more rifle. But the action does allow you to stay on the scope better than even a BLR does. A pump action would be the best option but i know they are a different category down under
@@beardoggin8963
You have to break your grip to reach the lever on this thing anyway, and it is not as much of an awkward motion on a BLR
Yeah Bee you do. And I’m not trying to argue lol. But in my opinion when hunting and making a follow up shot staying on the stock and on the scope is more important than having to break your grip when cycling the action.
Staying on scope with a BLR is actually pretty easy if you adopt more of a C-style grip with your off hand.
Just saying 😁
So....what happens if you hold down the bolt release while shooting...
Would be cool if someone made a lever release .223 that took pmags!
In the slow motion view, I noticed some bolt bounce; that will significantly impact your accuracy, sorry mate.
Very interesting that it liked the federal ammo that little bit more than the hornady which I thought was a more premium product. Also will you be doing a review on the CZ - 515 when they are release into the country around august ? If so and it’s possible can you review the .22wmr wood stock version please.
its so green!!!
Accuracy and 'stumbling magazine,..those two points along would stop me from being a 'happy camper' IF I fork out that kind of money for a rifle like this.
If we pay good money for a rifle should we not expect to get better than this? Has the dealer/manufacturer offered any resolution to these issues to date Ozzie?
No Reg I haven’t approached them, I just reviewed the rifle as it comes to a buyer
@@ozziereviews Yes OK then I understand,.but hopefully somebody in 'authority' can look into this,..,IF of course,.they see your review!
Would the lever on the side work as a trigger if you held in the trigger and pushed the lever?
They can have a CATASTROPHIC failure!
Should cycle it really fast🤑😢
Keep up the good work boss ya vids are awesome👌🏻
? Anymore footage of wild dogs vs ya varmint stick?😁
Only 1 set of 3 shot groups? Don’t feel like that’s enough rounds to have any idea what kinds of groups it will shoot.
Stephen Thompson good point. Brand new rifle? I didn’t hear whether or not he had a chance to put many/ANY rounds down range prior to filming this review, (which he usually does-but those tend to be MUCH higher quality and enjoyably fired rifles). I’m left with an empty feeling. However, I still love this channel and can’t wait to see an Anschutz Fortner (22lr) reviewed. Perhaps there’s already one that I’ve somehow missed?
I use a 8 power scope on mine. Touchers at 100m using hand loads.
Do a review on their 470 nitro express double rifle
Pretty keen on the shotgun version of this but not if its anywhere near 3k, does anyone know if we are going to get it here in Australia
It probably wouldn't take very much effort to transform that into a semi auto. It looks like a Remington 742 woodsmaster.
Just hold that little notch down
@NovemberTheProtogen Can't do that it breaks the gun and won't close the bolt. Its a very expensive fix.
@@CrazyDog651 "Exactly right" we accidentaly found out the hard way after about 20 rounds.I have it on video and I will post my review when it returns from the gun smith ?.
mrbikehunter Keen to see it I’m currently in the market for a .223 lever release and I’m probably going to have a gunsmith convert a straight pull into one and when doing research I found that out about the Verney Carron.
@@CrazyDog651 after viewing the Verney Carron advertising video where they recommend you actually rest your thumb on the release lever i foolishly believed they had made the rifle so as not to cause a catastrophic malfunction (i was Deceived) because its not a matter of IF it will happen its WHEN.
Would have been interesting to see the forend come off and take a look at the gas piston setup it uses. 308 must be new as I thought they didn't make this rile in military calibers.
no piston
its just blowback , like a pistol.
oh its gas piston return?
Jai B I believe it has a gas driven piston to push the bolt back. Obviously nothing more than a spring loaded latch for the return.
@@travishimself1973 Thats interesting thought it would just be blowback
@@SpaghettiFPV-tg3qh Too big of rounds for it to be blow back otherwise the bolt would have to be so much heavier just to get it to extract at a safe pressure. This is a rotating bolt with a gas piston which is located under the barrel.
Won’t be available in NSW.
it is available in NSW, Safari firearms has had them in stock for a while now
Ozzie where did you get that camo hat from, what brand is it? Keep up the good work.
could you pls review CZ 515 22lr tactical
Are they joking for the same money you can buy a Tikka T3 X Tac A1🤔
I genuinely want one of those an American. But at a much better price point.
Cat B or nah? Looks like fun, if nothing else!
Seriously, i dont understand the bullshit with semi autos.
Why not a compromise, three shot semi auto centrefire in oz. Mini 14, ar15 or whatever but you can only have three shots then reload? Models can only fit new magazines that can only take three shots or even two. What do you think guys?
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Solves literally nothing.
How's the speedline going now? How's the accuracy? Also is yours prone to copper fouling?
i had a HK SL770 in saner days would should sub MOA all day.
So $2995 for this or $3200 for a DSA FAL? If I was going to dump 3g on a rifle I am sure I would want to be shooting as a profession and allowed D class.
Can we buy it in QLD? Is it under B ? Cheers
This seems like a purposeful work-around for where semiautomatic rifles are banned
Tony W well yes it is, places like France and Australia. Made in France and sold in Australia
Yep you could call it the political action lol
You would get better detail of the rifle in your desktop review if your bench was a darker colour. Your camera is overcompensating for the light background making the subject a little too dark. Otherwise I enjoy your reviews, keep it up.
What licence do you need for that in Australia?
Just checking, you got the copywrite mark enough times on this video, just incase somebody tries to rip the video lol!
What does a chassis'd Howa 1500 cost in Australia?
And what happens if you keep the release lever held down ? Will it cycle , I'm certain you've tried..
Apparently it will break something internal and then it has to be sent back for repair. I don't know if thats true or not though.
@@samueldummler7307 Perhaps the thing that gets broken is legislation....😁
Case mouth deformed? On ejection
if you taped or welded the lever down would you make a semi auto?
nope, verney carron addressed this very early on prior to the release of the rifle.
11.25 your rear scope mount screw looks proud mate?
Correction - Scope ring screw
How do you purchase your fire arms? A dealer or something else?
Like everyone else does, PTA and from a dealer
Ozzie, isnt 7 pounds about average for a 308 ?
Great review but this rifle makes me sad, neutered guns are just depressing, I would rather buy a 1885 high wall.
Could there be a conversion for semis?????
I mean if you converted it to a semi you'd have your guns taken off you and maybe serve time in prison
@@justintran9165 semi auto to the speed line action
there's a few rifles already with the lever release system such as the savage a22r
Adding an air piston to a wfa1 would make more sense honestly
I think you're being too fair. That kind of accuracy is just shit. Especially from a $3000 rifle and factory ammo. If you have to rely on reloads to get serviceable accuracy from a rifle it's no good.
I don't think you can blame it on the 4x optic either. 4x is plenty for shooting accurately at 100m.
I think you’re right, sometimes I’m too fair...
Pig gun...when there's only a couple pigs.
I bought one. Value for money was not a consideration. Tack driving was also not a consideration. What is important for me shooting off hand from a motorcycle at close range is the speed of a follow up shot/reloading.
This rifle makes all others (except semi-automatic) obsolete. Period
Not very akkarate
You poor guys should not need rifles like this. Y’all should be allowed semiautomatic 100%. Reality fully automatic if you want.
Great video as always but please lets not adopt the Americanism of saying price "point" every time we talk about the cost of something. Just say "price". That alone is easily understood. Americans can't talk about the price of something without saying "price point" for some reason... ???
K dude
Wow, the cheapest Kriegoff Semprio or Blaser R8 or Merkel Helix have better value.
$3000 for a pretend semi-auto that can't shoot better than an old Winchester 30/30?
How's your accuracy?
Nope,not good enough for what they are charging for these firearms.
A SEVEN pound PLASTIC rifle? Kinda crazy! Cool lever...gimmicky? Dare I say that? Knowing that your gun laws will probably inspire the madman/substitute drama teacher who is Canada’s Prime Minister, I should be more careful! I’m guessing that French isn’t taught in Australia? Myanmar is probably one of the closest countries to Oz that spoke French-I’m curious to know if they still speak French there? Probably NOT. Quite the spread on this rifle-to the magazine load part, which is the end.
Typically french, style over substance.