Fiverr taking percents of tips is the most scum of the earth activity ive ever heard of, i bet most people dont even know that because its probably deep within the terms
Granted, its kinda obvious Fiverr creators are scum they're pushing AI shit, have spesific categories for "AI Art" voice etc. that they now promote more then anything else and its CEO is promoting 2 different forced/genocidal occupations (with the service itself founded / registered under one of the 2 countries doing the occupations)
@@littl3evee I assume fiverr does it to stop comissions going through the tips system, worried people would do that to take a larger cut (of which they deserve but fiverr doesnt agree) but also tips are already used as a good willed system to support a person directly and theyre taking from that? I imagine with a message letting people know of the cut but it should be called something different. I dont know if advertising other platforms is allowed on fiverr but that should probably be used to move comissions to a better cut.
@@awesomeististiism Yeah, I could see that, it'd be very easy to just say "The gig is for 1 cent, just tip $19.99 after" if there was no commission on the tips... if they don't leave the tip they agreed to, you give the buyer 1 star or something. That said, that's a pretty terrible system for preventing that. If they're genuinely worried about that specific loophole, then a better solution would be to put a high but reasonable cap on what % you can tip for and then not take a commission off of any tips. That way getting tipped is the reward it's supposed to be instead of making it feel almost like a punishment for using the site. Would you lose out on some income from tips? Yeah, but you'd attract so many more clients (and bring back old ones who left you for that _specific_ reason) that it likely more than makes up for the cost relative to the current model.
Coincidence that I commissioned a sprite for the first time on fiverr a few weeks ago too! Too bad I didn't stumble onto your account lol, it would've been fun to be in the video
Thank you or showing honest experiences like this! So many accounts go 'I tried this for X time' and immediately boost themselves unsubtly with their main.
People don't usually purchase expensive services if the seller is new. The way people do it is undersell at the start then increase the price once your name is out there!
@@quagswagon I'll add a disclaimer by saying I haven't sold my art online before, but if whatever website you're publishing on allows you to set your own discounts, I feel like another route for artists starting out who want to fairly price their art but still need to build up a clientele would be to set it at a certain price but have it frequently (or even always be, at least up until a certain point) go on sale until you get enough buyers and ratings. That way people know what they're buying is at a reduced price, but the sale allows them to test the quality of a new seller without having to sink too much money in. I don't know if this works in practice, but it's a thought.
Pretty sure it's illegal for an employer to take a cut of tips from their employees in america. Don't know where fiverr lands on "employer," nor what the laws are for a website potentially not hosted in NA, nor for an employee that's not in NA, but it'd be interesting to look into.
@@dexterity494 Intermediary or service, where both parts get something, they just offer the means for that to happen. Then they charge for that in which way they see fit (one end, both ends, percentage/fixed rate...)
please i would love a better alternative to fiverr, i mean, there i have a few clients but the wait and the 20% is killing me, please talk about better alternatives!!!
@protopixelart its not gonna be that easy but you would need to go freelance and build your own niche. Anything like fiver is gonna take a cut and have too many people or not enough customers
@@protopixelart your gonna have to do commissions on social media platforms, sites like fiverr will always be untrustworthy do to the cuts the take from you
Gosh, as an artist myself who wants to put myself out there for commissions, this looks really daunting! I appreciate the authenticity of the video though, it really is hard. Awesome sprite work!
I happened to stumble upon this video on my feed and I absolutely loved it! I love when artist go undercover as a noobie and work with clients! Please make this into a series if you can!
@@dingola_ 1. There's more than one reason someone would click on a video, you know. Such as the video's title? 2. Is "it working" supposed to be a good thing, anyways? Like if I said that I saw an ad for the best burgers in the state, and I went to the restaraunt and they only served uncooked cup ramen, would you respond with "I mean the ad did its job"?
So glad youtube recommended me this channel i also spend all my time making pokemon sprites :) specifically i do work for Infinite Fusions and Uranium :v
@@RetroNC I made the most recent Mystery gifts for Uranium we just released two new ones for the anniversary a couple days ago xD (we're also working on postgame so stay tuned for that 👀)
Hey! I’ve started dabbling into Pokémon sprite art and I recently made a water starter that is a hippocampus (in this case the mythical animal not the part in the brain). I tried giving it a dynamic pose (at least dynamic for my standards) and I don’t think it looks like a horse. Could you give me some tips? If you could, I can give you the link where I’ll post it on Reddit.
a baltic artist well thats rare on this part of the cursed world also i tried fiverr once gaved up in a week cause of its unfriendly competitive and algorithm making you visible like every social media on the planet so i absolutely hate that site and their fees
@@RetroNC by rare i mean here in lithuania being a true artist is basically a curse theres basically no interest or need for artist at all in this manual labor culture part of the world like i dont think there artists here with ultra detailed drawings cause in random news artcile i just see minimal abstract art that just exist to take space on a wall even finding something like pixel art to cyberpunk 2077 level artworks almost impossible i even saw these random droodles outside schools that just put on a tree and none of them really pushed details or imagination to its absolute limit and beyond but thats probably unfair comparison since kids do stuff cause they were assigned to not cause they really dared and willingly wanted to do much more dont even know how to properly describe it but i know we probably capable much more then we do now
11:28 on and off I debated on using Fiverr, back to not wanting to. Taking tips is wild, it's like taking tips from a waiter/waitress. nah. nope nope. But I guess since Fiverr isn't really a employer of creators on their platform it's legal to take their tips? stupid.
btw cool video havent watched one of your in a while but the slow talking is very memorable. btw im curious about the fangame, can anybody help me to be kept up to date about it?
@@SKIBIDICUMSLUTSKIBIDICUM Saying that is pretty unhelpful. I thought the video itself is interesting and edited well but the narration speed feels a bit slow.
He's not a native speaker, probably isn't used with the language enought to speak in normal speed. It's completaly normal, i do and a lot of other people too, some more then others, it really depends on the diferences between the phonetics of certain languages compared to english
you know what's worse 1-being angry someone is more talented than you 2- being at such a low point in your life that you get angry someone is more talented than you 3-comment because you are angry someone is more talented than you 4-make less money than the person you are criticizing woah, you are a complete failure
Here's the link to the game's Discord!
discord.com/invite/HQpMudxNc8
thank you for doing my kaiju!
it was a pleasure :D
GODZILLA REFENCERE
@@Jelly_shy_guy_man Not **just** godzilla, but all the other things.. *COUGH COUGH* PACIFIC RIM *COUGH COUGH*
@@miloplayz2012 Pfft, Pacific Rim. Ever hear of MF Gamera?
@@miloplayz2012 oh yeah, also gamera, (know another comment said that, but still)
Fiverr taking percents of tips is the most scum of the earth activity ive ever heard of, i bet most people dont even know that because its probably deep within the terms
Side note, fantastic video, loved it
Granted, its kinda obvious Fiverr creators are scum
they're pushing AI shit, have spesific categories for "AI Art" voice etc. that they now promote more then anything else
and its CEO is promoting 2 different forced/genocidal occupations (with the service itself founded / registered under one of the 2 countries doing the occupations)
Nah what's crazy is that depending on the country you're from they can't legally do this and the only % that should be taken out is through taxes.
@@dj_justanotheruser_yt in which countries would this be illegal in, do you know?
I've actually been actively commissioning Pokemon Fiverr artists over the past month or so. Little sad I didn't come across your gig.
Atleast you supporting other artists, that's what counts!
fiver takes TWENTY PERCENT of tips??? Why do people (that aren’t ai scams) even sell on there???
@@littl3evee I assume fiverr does it to stop comissions going through the tips system, worried people would do that to take a larger cut (of which they deserve but fiverr doesnt agree) but also tips are already used as a good willed system to support a person directly and theyre taking from that? I imagine with a message letting people know of the cut but it should be called something different.
I dont know if advertising other platforms is allowed on fiverr but that should probably be used to move comissions to a better cut.
Where else would they find clients?
Wayyyy more clients on fiver and it helps starter artists get money for their work
@@awesomeististiism Yeah, I could see that, it'd be very easy to just say "The gig is for 1 cent, just tip $19.99 after" if there was no commission on the tips... if they don't leave the tip they agreed to, you give the buyer 1 star or something.
That said, that's a pretty terrible system for preventing that. If they're genuinely worried about that specific loophole, then a better solution would be to put a high but reasonable cap on what % you can tip for and then not take a commission off of any tips. That way getting tipped is the reward it's supposed to be instead of making it feel almost like a punishment for using the site.
Would you lose out on some income from tips? Yeah, but you'd attract so many more clients (and bring back old ones who left you for that _specific_ reason) that it likely more than makes up for the cost relative to the current model.
When I had no job and was desperate it was my only choice and I still got NO attention thanks to the ai bs on there so I quite quickly..
Oh man my genovor made the thumbnail lol thanks again for helping me achieve a step closer to my dream!!!
Hey, I hope it goes well :)
subbed and excited to see more!
Your idea seems really cool! I also subbed to follow along, that message you wrote in your review was really nice too!
@@mejij3115 hey your designs are really good!
you're such a sweetheart! i wish you the best with your game
The fact that the last dude went out of his way explicitly to credit you is so awesome. Love to see that in the space!
Yup, that dude was great
Coincidence that I commissioned a sprite for the first time on fiverr a few weeks ago too! Too bad I didn't stumble onto your account lol, it would've been fun to be in the video
Thank you or showing honest experiences like this! So many accounts go 'I tried this for X time' and immediately boost themselves unsubtly with their main.
Agreed! I mean, it makes for a more entertaining and authentic video, so I don't see why not at the very least try it like this haha
That review Jim left was so sweet and wholesome. I am glad that gig went as well as it did.
I need to talk about the price being criminally low 😭
People don't usually purchase expensive services if the seller is new. The way people do it is undersell at the start then increase the price once your name is out there!
@@quagswagon I'll add a disclaimer by saying I haven't sold my art online before, but if whatever website you're publishing on allows you to set your own discounts, I feel like another route for artists starting out who want to fairly price their art but still need to build up a clientele would be to set it at a certain price but have it frequently (or even always be, at least up until a certain point) go on sale until you get enough buyers and ratings. That way people know what they're buying is at a reduced price, but the sale allows them to test the quality of a new seller without having to sink too much money in.
I don't know if this works in practice, but it's a thought.
I’m so happy you’ve started to make it on TH-cam!!! You have so much talent and are amazing at making videos.
Pretty sure it's illegal for an employer to take a cut of tips from their employees in america.
Don't know where fiverr lands on "employer," nor what the laws are for a website potentially not hosted in NA, nor for an employee that's not in NA, but it'd be interesting to look into.
@@dexterity494 To my knowledge, they arent an employer. They are like uber i that regard
@@dexterity494 Intermediary or service, where both parts get something, they just offer the means for that to happen. Then they charge for that in which way they see fit (one end, both ends, percentage/fixed rate...)
Amazing animations ! The little movements are so close to the actual pokemon animations of this gen, it's crazy
please i would love a better alternative to fiverr, i mean, there i have a few clients but the wait and the 20% is killing me, please talk about better alternatives!!!
Like I say in the vid - searching on Discord and Reddit for dedicated places to offer your services could be a good start!
@protopixelart its not gonna be that easy but you would need to go freelance and build your own niche. Anything like fiver is gonna take a cut and have too many people or not enough customers
@@protopixelart your gonna have to do commissions on social media platforms, sites like fiverr will always be untrustworthy do to the cuts the take from you
That's it, I'm going to create a Fiverr alternative called Sixerr
Gosh, as an artist myself who wants to put myself out there for commissions, this looks really daunting! I appreciate the authenticity of the video though, it really is hard. Awesome sprite work!
aww this was so sweet, great video!
It feels illegal to be this early. I love what you do, man
thank you for the fuzzy feeling - here's your reward king 👑
Wow, Fiverr REALLY doesnt want people to use it, huh?
A third of the video went by and I'm -starting to think- getting an IMPRESSION that there will be not sprites made in this video
And I watched the whole thing and you're wrong lol
I happened to stumble upon this video on my feed and I absolutely loved it! I love when artist go undercover as a noobie and work with clients! Please make this into a series if you can!
Wow! That sure was the polar opposite of what the thumbnail promised. ._.
😭oh i only saw the sprite
And you clicking on it in the first place means it's working
@@dingola_
1. There's more than one reason someone would click on a video, you know. Such as the video's title?
2. Is "it working" supposed to be a good thing, anyways? Like if I said that I saw an ad for the best burgers in the state, and I went to the restaraunt and they only served uncooked cup ramen, would you respond with "I mean the ad did its job"?
Good video RetroNC😎👍🏻
yessir
Love the pixel art of dismandur
That tip cut is obscene... but your sprites are great!
Fiver takes 20%.
Taxes from what like 30-50%~
That 10$ gets to $8 then to $6-4~.
Have fun with that.
I wonder if he always speaks in slow-motion or if he does it to make sure everyone can understand him. Either way, took a lot to get used to it.
LATVIA MENTIONED RAHHHH🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🦅🦅🦅🦅🏒🏒🏒🏒
tu jau zini
Holy moly
Your sprites are really charming
Wow, what a video👍
are you really going undercover or just selling your art on fiverr? i feel like that's a normal thing for artists to do
Hell yeah, make another vid about other commission websites
What platform do you make your sprites on? (Btw fire video 🔥)
Aseprite! Libresprite is a free alternative
So glad youtube recommended me this channel i also spend all my time making pokemon sprites :) specifically i do work for Infinite Fusions and Uranium :v
Awesome! What work have you done on Uranium?
@@RetroNC I made the most recent Mystery gifts for Uranium we just released two new ones for the anniversary a couple days ago xD (we're also working on postgame so stay tuned for that 👀)
"hey! we noticed someone left some extra money that was meant completely for you! sorry, but 20% of that is ours now :("
Hey! I’ve started dabbling into Pokémon sprite art and I recently made a water starter that is a hippocampus (in this case the mythical animal not the part in the brain). I tried giving it a dynamic pose (at least dynamic for my standards) and I don’t think it looks like a horse. Could you give me some tips? If you could, I can give you the link where I’ll post it on Reddit.
Reach out to me on Twitter
a baltic artist well thats rare on this part of the cursed world
also i tried fiverr once gaved up in a week cause of its unfriendly competitive and algorithm making you visible like every social media on the planet
so i absolutely hate that site and their fees
Yeah, you got a point with that
What did you mean by baltic artists being rare tho😭
@@RetroNC by rare i mean here in lithuania being a true artist is basically a curse
theres basically no interest or need for artist at all in this manual labor culture part of the world
like i dont think there artists here with ultra detailed drawings cause in random news artcile i just see minimal abstract art that just exist to take space on a wall
even finding something like pixel art to cyberpunk 2077 level artworks almost impossible
i even saw these random droodles outside schools that just put on a tree and none of them really pushed details or imagination to its absolute limit and beyond
but thats probably unfair comparison since kids do stuff cause they were assigned to not cause they really dared and willingly wanted to do much more
dont even know how to properly describe it
but i know we probably capable much more then we do now
@@Nogardtist oh, yeah.. that's a shame. I see what you mean now
katana zero reference goes hard
I really liked this vid definitely subscribing
Welcome aboard :)
The second sprite on your profile was a sprite if another TH-camrs fakemon
Did you cut out the part where you received over 50 scam messages? Cause that was my experience for the first 2 weeks.
Thats actually really scummy… taking money from your TIP?!!!!
Lockémon spotted!
Are you involved with the Kaskade fangame as well?
Nope, just had a one-off commission from someone that enjoyed the designs haha
YOU made the Neo-Kanto non trade trade evos!?
Watching this at 1.5 times speed 10/10
What pixel art program do you use?
Aseprite, or if you want a free alternative - LibreSprite works too!
Thanks
You are amazing!
nice vid but I think it'd be better if you spoke a little faster, not criticism or anything, just a suggestion
Mama mia, thats-a spicy-a meatball!
9:42 love 17 days the song
what program u use it looks fire
Aseprite/Libresprite
When you become famous remember me.
11:28 on and off I debated on using Fiverr, back to not wanting to. Taking tips is wild, it's like taking tips from a waiter/waitress. nah. nope nope. But I guess since Fiverr isn't really a employer of creators on their platform it's legal to take their tips? stupid.
Keep it up 😂❤
You could try Vgen though its not common for pixel art
what do you use to draw?
Aseprite is my main, LibreSprite is a free alternative!
What is that pixel program?
Aseprite!
Liked it til the 1 star never came back from the thumbnail
Youre too tuff bro
btw cool video havent watched one of your in a while but the slow talking is very memorable. btw im curious about the fangame, can anybody help me to be kept up to date about it?
listening in 2x
@@mare_the_floppa omg fr he talks so slow
Nice vid
ya man i went undercover at mcdonalds as a fry cook.
Ok burger king spy
Under cover lol :) :)
Nice accent
Make intentionality bad Fakemon so you could get free art from this person.
taking tips is something you should never do,on the internet or irl it doesnt matter
@@Cactiband what!?
What
Why do you speak so slowly damn had to watch 2x speed
You shouldve clicked off of the video then
@@SKIBIDICUMSLUTSKIBIDICUM Saying that is pretty unhelpful. I thought the video itself is interesting and edited well but the narration speed feels a bit slow.
@@balloon3503 womp womp, thats a you problem
nah im goated
@@balloon3503 no u arent lil bro
damn why you speak so slow wtf
@@kevinka99 that's just how it is. You're free to click off.
You can just speed the video up
@@SNOTIDummi First and last time I watch a video of his for sure!
He's not a native speaker, probably isn't used with the language enought to speak in normal speed. It's completaly normal, i do and a lot of other people too, some more then others, it really depends on the diferences between the phonetics of certain languages compared to english
you know what s gay?
1. playing video games for a "job"
2. drawing pictures for a "job"
3. doing both at the same time?
woah. you're super double gay
@@bens2718 he's making money doing what he likes . While youre losing your time writing dumbass comments and embarassing yourself
you know what's worse
1-being angry someone is more talented than you
2- being at such a low point in your life that you get angry someone is more talented than you
3-comment because you are angry someone is more talented than you
4-make less money than the person you are criticizing
woah, you are a complete failure
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