PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start calling these by their proper name in the video titles - it's a PLUGIN hybrid...not a hybrid. This is not the first video on this channel where you call it a hybrid and it confuses people. Thanks and keep up the otherwise great reviews.
I have an E 300de on a 69 plate. Out of lockdown I do 500 miles a week with a lot of motorway. I wanted a less polluting car but not full EV. I LOVE the car. I usually get 70-80 mpg on my commute but my weekend driving is mostly electric only so I’m about 80-85 mpg per tank - often get over 900 miles between fill ups. And that’s winter so should be even better in summer, if we get out of lockdown. Fuel economy should be taken over a whole tank not a single journey.
Can you drive it only electric? My daily drive back and forth from work is around 10-15 Kms. Will I always be available to drive it only electric for these distances? I could charge it every second night.
Not a single one of these videos is explaining how the hybrid system is working. Does it do the electric battery first and when battery is out of juice switches to fuel? And why are the companies giving out these insane mileage figures??
Nik Siwach if you mean you do 10-15km a day that should be ok eldepending on your climate and commute. If that’s each way then every second night will be too much. It’ll do 22/23 miles on electric only around town say 36km.
great information if this comes for the American Market you should get 84-96 us mpg because of 1 🇬🇧🏴🇨🇦 MPG = 1.2🇺🇸 MPG. If the diesel hybrid version where to be made in Mercedes-Benz Tuscaloosa Alabama factory.
The interesting bit is which makes a great second hand car when it comes out of company car ownership. All the maths changes at that point, and its a shame these vids don't examine that aspect.
The diesel would be ideal for me since when not in lock down I do a 70 mile daily commute into a city centre. Mostly on the motorway with a few miles city driving. Can't see many buying that D hybrid tho. At that price point image is more important than saving some money on fuel. The extra cost in fuel wouldn't be much of a concern to those people.
Could you provide links to the source when you say things like independent tests show the same level of emissions? High level statements like that without numbers aren’t helpful.
@@siraff4461 most european tests are not in English and so rarely watched by UK people, i would guess. Anyway it doesnt matter what they do, it would be easy to add writen on screen and would be good for them, so good sugestion.
Either C Class or E Class, my school run for the month and driving round town Audi A6 ave. £70-£80 a month, ave 5-10 miles around the town the Merc's are a no brainer, will be having one in October November
For those who don't know, in America the availability of diesel is limited. Only 50% of gas stations offer diesel and if they do, it's usually just one pump.
Anthony C in Europe its 2/3rds of the sales are diesels mainly because it’s cheaper half the time than the petrol equivalent for company cars and running costs
@@hereandthere4763diesel isn’t uncommon but gasoline powered trucks are far more common. Ford offers a range of 6 and 8 cylinder gas engines for the F-150.
The nose on the petrol is lighter? Incredible since they share exactly the same weight, weight balance, suspension and steering. Can we please drop the very outdated "diesel heavy" nonsense?
Both nice cars, sadly MB has a problem, the E300e plug in hybrid estate, comes as a diesel only as of 03/2021, with no immediate plans for a petrol version, according to MB a few days ago. I do not need or want a diesel, my annual mileage is under 10k. The hybrid will make it able to drive into city centres, as more cities introduce emission charges.
Until I first heard about this diesel-electric powered Mercedes-Benz, I was told that it was not possible to achieve, nor was it even practical. I think it *is* possible to do. At least Mercedes-Benz was willing to try it. If only more car makers were willing to try it.
Hi mate do you have any idea how many miles does mercedes e class plug in hybrid have it's life time means if I buy an old one can I drive upto 250,000 miles. Please let me know
Ever heard of 'Google'? You'll find all the converters you need right there (as we've no idea what 'litres per 100km' means either....... and don't really care!).
Can the Diesel version run on Ethanol? To my knowledge we don't have any Diesel PHEV's in my country (US), but IMO a diesel PHEV that can run on bio is probably the best option for all situations. Diesel is available at most gas stations, the biggest problem with Diesel is particulates which are less of a problem when you have the option of using a battery for short trips within cities, and unlike Gas/Petrol, you can make fuel even after it runs out in the future.
Diesel non hybrid E class can achieve that number any way. It's really depends on your driving. I do witness old E class with 2 liter Diesel was able to achieve 45 mpg anyway
If you have 30miles to your job and you can fill it up there, isnt consumption zero? If you are doing 100s of miles at once no hybrid is suited for you, correct?
@@lukazupie7220 Diesel engine possesses low-end torque which makes it efficient than the gasoline engine. What a hybrid system does, it provides a gasoline motor with low-end better torque to make it efficient. The problem is Diesel engines already have that efficiency. Infect a BMW 730d a diesel variant of 7 series has better than any Prius
@@shehzad330 diesels only provide that efficiency on a motorway. In the city they are as inefficient as petrol engines. That's why you need an electric motor, you use diesel on motorways and electric in the city in one car
@@tedarcher9120 if that engine is seating in a truck crunching on lower gear. Yes rhythm also effect in momentum physics of the vehicle. Toyota use to sell 2.0 lit corolla with the diesel ended in 2013. That car is still available and operational in different regions of the world. Lowest rating of that car is 18KM/1 lit on a highway 20KM/L, the 2012 e class does it 40+ in city with diesel engine. Totally my experience it could be different for you.
If the costs are the same I can't see why anyone would go for the petrol. Its not like you get a roaring sound or a load of extra speed. Its just thirsty for the sake of it.
Shocked to hear the poor mpg figures when battery depleted. I have a Prius plug in that will do 65 - 70 mpg at 70 mph all day long with a depleted battery. Is this because Toyota build better hybrids ???
No. Its because a Prius is a smaller, lighter and more aerodynamic car with much less drag and an engine designed with efficiency specifically in mind. The Prius also can't do a sub 5s 0-60, isn't anywhere near as roomy, has nowhere near the amount of sound deadening, luxury equipment and all the rest. If MPG is all you're bothered about the Prius is a good choice. Oh unless you count the electric running miles from these aswell - in which case you're going to need to do a lot of long journeys for that Prius to match them. Every day the Mercs will start with 20 miles of electric only so you've burned a third of a gallon before they even have to start. Then if the diesel gets 50mpg and the Prius 70mpg its going to take another 70 miles to get that back meaning the shortest run you could do to break even would be 90 miles. Or in other words if you do more days under 90 miles than over you would be better off fuel wise in the much faster, more comfy and better equipped E-class. Frankly if you do more days over 90 miles you need to look at your use pattern more than what car you buy.
@@m.x970 For thast money I would look at a full electric for taxi in London. London is special because you drive short distances but for a long time which really suits a full electric. E class money will get you a 64kWh Soul, an i-pace or a Tesla. The Tesla model 3 long range makes the most sense because it has the chargers to back it up if it can't manage one of the days. If it was the Prius or the Mercedes only though it would be the Mercedes every time. Remember that 20 miles can also be topped up between fares if you have time and every time you do you get more cheap range.
This is why I don’t see the advantage of plug in hybrids yet. With current driving, people might as well just either go for a normal hybrid or electric. Even conventional diesels are still viable today. My Dacia achieves 68mpg. Granted, this is more of a luxury car and they burn more fuel than an economy car but other PHEVs have shown similar economy figures.
For a channel that is called Driving Electric, isn't it about time you stopped perpetuating the lie that a hybrid is an EV ? They burn a fossil fuel to make electric...
Some EVs use electricity made from burning fossil fuels. So don't really see the point of you complaining about hybrids not being an EV. Ultimately it's the same thing, fossil fuel was burnt to move the car. It's called the triple bottom line, no car is eco friendly . If you want to save the planet walk or ride a push bike instead.
@@siraff4461 that is a truly ridiculous statement Si. The name of this channel is DrivingElectric. It is not DrivingHybrid, or DrivingAlmostElectric. I realise content is difficult to make at the moment, but hybrid cars and hybrid trains are stop gaps. You are still burning a fuel to propel a vehicle and at the same time directly or indirectly using that fossil fuel to make electric to store in a battery.
@@sjcsystems Apart from these being plug in hybrids they don't necessarily need to use that engine so your point is complete garbage from the off. Adding to that is the ridiculous angle you're coming from. Should 5th gear only ever have driven things in 5th gear? I'm sure Top gear would have had a few fried clutches if they tried to stict strictly to it. Should Mr Llewellyn close shop because sometimes things he is is aren't fully charged? Stop talking hogwash. Its a channel name - not an intricate description of its content. Get over it and yourself.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start calling these by their proper name in the video titles - it's a PLUGIN hybrid...not a hybrid. This is not the first video on this channel where you call it a hybrid and it confuses people. Thanks and keep up the otherwise great reviews.
I have an E 300de on a 69 plate. Out of lockdown I do 500 miles a week with a lot of motorway. I wanted a less polluting car but not full EV. I LOVE the car. I usually get 70-80 mpg on my commute but my weekend driving is mostly electric only so I’m about 80-85 mpg per tank - often get over 900 miles between fill ups. And that’s winter so should be even better in summer, if we get out of lockdown. Fuel economy should be taken over a whole tank not a single journey.
That is great information, thanks for sharing it.
Can you drive it only electric? My daily drive back and forth from work is around 10-15 Kms. Will I always be available to drive it only electric for these distances? I could charge it every second night.
Not a single one of these videos is explaining how the hybrid system is working. Does it do the electric battery first and when battery is out of juice switches to fuel? And why are the companies giving out these insane mileage figures??
Nik Siwach if you mean you do 10-15km a day that should be ok eldepending on your climate and commute. If that’s each way then every second night will be too much. It’ll do 22/23 miles on electric only around town say 36km.
great information if this comes for the American Market you should get 84-96 us mpg because of 1 🇬🇧🏴🇨🇦 MPG = 1.2🇺🇸 MPG. If the diesel hybrid version where to be made in Mercedes-Benz Tuscaloosa Alabama factory.
The interesting bit is which makes a great second hand car when it comes out of company car ownership. All the maths changes at that point, and its a shame these vids don't examine that aspect.
Thats’s exactly what I’m after. It’s a really good value for money as a second hand -almost new- car
Good idea, Vicki ... to test these wonderful hybrids
The diesel estate variant is very much on the top of my list for next car, especially as diesel here in Ireland is so, so much cheaper than petrol.
Lots changed in a year ha? 😅
@@tunaozgon4640 yessssss hhhhh
Diesel... cheaper than *petrol*?!😮
Ireland was in Narnia for a minute, huh? 😂
The diesel would be ideal for me since when not in lock down I do a 70 mile daily commute into a city centre. Mostly on the motorway with a few miles city driving. Can't see many buying that D hybrid tho. At that price point image is more important than saving some money on fuel. The extra cost in fuel wouldn't be much of a concern to those people.
Chris Wales try it you’ll like it. Driving electric is addictive and it’s a great car.
I can’t find a single video review of the 2019 E300e on youtube. Only informative videos are about the de version. Why is that?
Could you provide links to the source when you say things like independent tests show the same level of emissions? High level statements like that without numbers aren’t helpful.
Great videos, but please use also litre/km numbers for reset of use in Europe (written note box incl also metrics)
What you mean like every European tester does for MPG?
@@siraff4461 most european tests are not in English and so rarely watched by UK people, i would guess. Anyway it doesnt matter what they do, it would be easy to add writen on screen and would be good for them, so good sugestion.
Either C Class or E Class, my school run for the month and driving round town Audi A6 ave. £70-£80 a month, ave 5-10 miles around the town the Merc's are a no brainer, will be having one in October November
For those who don't know, in America the availability of diesel is limited. Only 50% of gas stations offer diesel and if they do, it's usually just one pump.
Anthony C in Europe its 2/3rds of the sales are diesels mainly because it’s cheaper half the time than the petrol equivalent for company cars and running costs
What on do lorries(trucks) run on in the USA if diesel availability is limited?
@@hereandthere4763diesel isn’t uncommon but gasoline powered trucks are far more common. Ford offers a range of 6 and 8 cylinder gas engines for the F-150.
@@anthonyc8499 By trucks I mean heavy haulage. Artics or what you call semis, for example.
@@hereandthere4763 semi trucks use diesel but they use truck stops not regular gas stations.
The nose on the petrol is lighter? Incredible since they share exactly the same weight, weight balance, suspension and steering.
Can we please drop the very outdated "diesel heavy" nonsense?
1985kg vs 2060kg
Both nice cars, sadly MB has a problem, the E300e plug in hybrid estate, comes as a diesel only as of 03/2021, with no immediate plans for a petrol version, according to MB a few days ago. I do not need or want a diesel, my annual mileage is under 10k. The hybrid will make it able to drive into city centres, as more cities introduce emission charges.
Diesel is better overall, as diesel doesn't degrade with time like petrol does
Until I first heard about this diesel-electric powered Mercedes-Benz, I was told that it was not possible to achieve, nor was it even practical. I think it *is* possible to do. At least Mercedes-Benz was willing to try it. If only more car makers were willing to try it.
I believe Volvo did diesel hybrids before Mercedes.
Agree with the above poster; Volvo did it first, about a decade or so ago.
@@wainerollins2587 I'd buy one if it was available here in the US. Why should we only get completely electric cars? I'd much rather have a hybrid car.
Hi mate do you have any idea how many miles does mercedes e class plug in hybrid have it's life time means if I buy an old one can I drive upto 250,000 miles. Please let me know
Great review!! I look forward to your review of the Mercedes GLE 350 de.
How much of that is liters per 100km? i've no idea what "mpg" is.
Ever heard of 'Google'? You'll find all the converters you need right there (as we've no idea what 'litres per 100km' means either....... and don't really care!).
@@GarryMcGovern you dont know what liters per 100km means? Wow😳
Great Video, been looking out for it.
can you please do the new a class hybrid
I take the diesel anytime, so please don`t mess with my beloved diesel!
Can the Diesel version run on Ethanol? To my knowledge we don't have any Diesel PHEV's in my country (US), but IMO a diesel PHEV that can run on bio is probably the best option for all situations. Diesel is available at most gas stations, the biggest problem with Diesel is particulates which are less of a problem when you have the option of using a battery for short trips within cities, and unlike Gas/Petrol, you can make fuel even after it runs out in the future.
They should bring more evs and phevs to North America asap.. Why the delay in EQC here?
Thanks. Just the review I have been waiting for. One point I didn’t pick up on your review was what is the range on both cars ?
18-22 miles in winter is what was said in the video
But isn't the combustion engine always running in cold weather?
Diesel non hybrid E class can achieve that number any way. It's really depends on your driving. I do witness old E class with 2 liter Diesel was able to achieve 45 mpg anyway
If you have 30miles to your job and you can fill it up there, isnt consumption zero? If you are doing 100s of miles at once no hybrid is suited for you, correct?
@@lukazupie7220 Diesel engine possesses low-end torque which makes it efficient than the gasoline engine. What a hybrid system does, it provides a gasoline motor with low-end better torque to make it efficient. The problem is Diesel engines already have that efficiency. Infect a BMW 730d a diesel variant of 7 series has better than any Prius
@@shehzad330 diesels only provide that efficiency on a motorway. In the city they are as inefficient as petrol engines. That's why you need an electric motor, you use diesel on motorways and electric in the city in one car
@@tedarcher9120 if that engine is seating in a truck crunching on lower gear. Yes rhythm also effect in momentum physics of the vehicle. Toyota use to sell 2.0 lit corolla with the diesel ended in 2013. That car is still available and operational in different regions of the world. Lowest rating of that car is 18KM/1 lit on a highway 20KM/L, the 2012 e class does it 40+ in city with diesel engine. Totally my experience it could be different for you.
@@shehzad330 2019 c300de diesel hybrid does 60 in the city
Very few user choosers are going to be doing only 10,000 miles per year.
paulanderson79 I do 30,000 miles a year so would take the diesel
If the costs are the same I can't see why anyone would go for the petrol. Its not like you get a roaring sound or a load of extra speed. Its just thirsty for the sake of it.
@@EV-Diary My mileage has dropped significantly but I still take diesel over petrol. Not even a hybrid.
Is disel more polluting than petrol and i dont need hybrid Diesel and so does others
Depends what pullution is for you, but diesel emits less co2 she said
Why burn stuff to get around? EQC?
You are being missed on DrivingElectric ever since this last video. Wondering what happened but I guess that question will remain unanswered.
Petrol is better in plugin hybrid, I had both.
Hybrid is better because it’s more silent and relaxing
Fact: hybrid type always weights more then diesel type
What's with the "stuff"? 🤔
Shocked to hear the poor mpg figures when battery depleted. I have a Prius plug in that will do 65 - 70 mpg at 70 mph all day long with a depleted battery. Is this because Toyota build better hybrids ???
No. Its because a Prius is a smaller, lighter and more aerodynamic car with much less drag and an engine designed with efficiency specifically in mind.
The Prius also can't do a sub 5s 0-60, isn't anywhere near as roomy, has nowhere near the amount of sound deadening, luxury equipment and all the rest.
If MPG is all you're bothered about the Prius is a good choice.
Oh unless you count the electric running miles from these aswell - in which case you're going to need to do a lot of long journeys for that Prius to match them.
Every day the Mercs will start with 20 miles of electric only so you've burned a third of a gallon before they even have to start. Then if the diesel gets 50mpg and the Prius 70mpg its going to take another 70 miles to get that back meaning the shortest run you could do to break even would be 90 miles.
Or in other words if you do more days under 90 miles than over you would be better off fuel wise in the much faster, more comfy and better equipped E-class.
Frankly if you do more days over 90 miles you need to look at your use pattern more than what car you buy.
Si Raff thank you very much, so you’re saying E class are much better than Prius as Taxi driver in London?
@@m.x970 For thast money I would look at a full electric for taxi in London. London is special because you drive short distances but for a long time which really suits a full electric. E class money will get you a 64kWh Soul, an i-pace or a Tesla.
The Tesla model 3 long range makes the most sense because it has the chargers to back it up if it can't manage one of the days.
If it was the Prius or the Mercedes only though it would be the Mercedes every time. Remember that 20 miles can also be topped up between fares if you have time and every time you do you get more cheap range.
Shame in running cost merc is far behind than Toyota and Lexus.
Geez, taxes are high in the UK. Guess they got to support the royals and their lifestyle....
They showed the number plate it should be bured
Why? It isn't blurred in real life you know ...
Actually those number plates are allowed to be seen on camera. The two cars are for PRESS USE.
This is why I don’t see the advantage of plug in hybrids yet. With current driving, people might as well just either go for a normal hybrid or electric. Even conventional diesels are still viable today. My Dacia achieves 68mpg. Granted, this is more of a luxury car and they burn more fuel than an economy car but other PHEVs have shown similar economy figures.
Why would you even consider a petrol engine
I think I'm skipping this lifecycle stage and going straight to BEV (eventually)
For a channel that is called Driving Electric, isn't it about time you stopped perpetuating the lie that a hybrid is an EV ? They burn a fossil fuel to make electric...
Some EVs use electricity made from burning fossil fuels. So don't really see the point of you complaining about hybrids not being an EV. Ultimately it's the same thing, fossil fuel was burnt to move the car. It's called the triple bottom line, no car is eco friendly . If you want to save the planet walk or ride a push bike instead.
Comments like that are what will put normal people of ev's. Please take your extremism somewhere else.
@@siraff4461 that is a truly ridiculous statement Si. The name of this channel is DrivingElectric. It is not DrivingHybrid, or DrivingAlmostElectric. I realise content is difficult to make at the moment, but hybrid cars and hybrid trains are stop gaps. You are still burning a fuel to propel a vehicle and at the same time directly or indirectly using that fossil fuel to make electric to store in a battery.
@@sjcsystems Apart from these being plug in hybrids they don't necessarily need to use that engine so your point is complete garbage from the off.
Adding to that is the ridiculous angle you're coming from. Should 5th gear only ever have driven things in 5th gear? I'm sure Top gear would have had a few fried clutches if they tried to stict strictly to it.
Should Mr Llewellyn close shop because sometimes things he is is aren't fully charged?
Stop talking hogwash. Its a channel name - not an intricate description of its content. Get over it and yourself.
@@siraff4461 Christ, that made me chuckle