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00:00 Intro
01:06 My First Light
02:13 My Home Made Softbox
03:31 First Pro Lights (Step Back)
04:42 Fluorescent Lighting
05:24 LED Light Panel 3 Point Lighting
07:21 LED Light Storm
09:11 Lighting Modifiers
10:11 Beauty Lighting
11:03 Super Bright LED For Realism
14:54 Changing Philosophies
15:44 Dont Subscribe
Lynn is truly the G.O.A.T. for taking on the full brunt of various lights.
She beautiful
Anyone else wince on her behalf when he got the 1200D out?
Absolutely loved the ending. You showed how you evolved from very simple lighting, to more complex setups, only to go back to very simple lighting. Except the difference is that now you are approaching the simple setup with more knowledge than before.
Exactly. Perfect summary of this video. Just incase he needs to use lights for particular situation, he knows exactly what to go for and when.
i dont like the ending. It makes it seem like lighting isn't important
@@AnimeZone247 If you watch more videos from this channel you'll see that they think lighting is very important. I interpreted the ending to this as an acknowledgement that lighting is only one part of the video production craft, and that if you can get strong results with using less resources you'll have greater ability to focus on other areas that are also important.
@@MeridianMedia yes I have watched a lot of videos from this channel. And the goal is not to use less lights, it’s to get the point of the story. And if you do that using less lights that’s great. Plus their last shot looked ugly, unless that’s look they’re going for. But if you only doing that bc less lights, and not bc of story, then that’s atrocious 🤢🤮
@@MeridianMedia also worry about lights is the job of the DP not the director.
You are my favorite channel on lighting... I've been watching religiously for years and implement what I can. More importantly, you are practical, humble, and funny! Keep on keeping on
You’re so kind!!!
Man, it's like you're retelling my production career. The flat panels bring back memories. We filmed in a shadowy room, with blue tinted windows, with the sunlight coming through the windows. We ended up using two panels, a system with five 100w fluorescent bulbs, and one panel for a keylight... Lots of recovery in editing...
I'm a big fan of walking into thrift stores and finding vintage lighting. I used to find a tone of photography stuff but I find fewer pieces now. But I have bought 2 "movie lights" in the past year. They are like 60-70 years old, they are made to expose for super 8 film, but it's literally a bar of 4 edison screw bases. One that I bought had 4 halogen lamps that said "movie lights" in the center, they are 300w each. I've tried using them a couple of times, mostly for fun, but you get four shadows. I should probably pump through an 8x8 and it would look fine, but I'm not brave enough. and It gets hot. I have one set up with blue tooth speaker light bulbs right now and its more of a novelty than actually useful. Still neat though.
I also found an old smith victor A120, which they still make a version of today. I bought the plastic clip on diffusion from their website and now my wife uses it for live streams.
I gotta say, I honestly think the home depot lamp with the box diffusion maybe looks better. The light is slightly harder, but in a flattering way. It gives the subject's face more definition and shape. Not only that, since the light is harder, there is a really nice ratio without the need for negative fill because the light isn't bouncing all over the room. Surprisingly, the really simple solution is not worlds apart, just a different look.
Dude great video! The nostalgia it hurts. Also the ending hit so hard! After years of working as a gaffer with hundreds of different DPs, I always say a good DP knows how to light, a great DP has the courage to shoot with nothing.
I would love to talk sometime. I’m sure your knowledge is indispensable
Are you kidding me? This is step for step exactly the journey I went on! (even a short stint into hotlights). The similarities are kind of creepy
Great video! You mentioned feeling embarrassed about having a "Photography Lighting Setup". For me, I started as a photographer so once Aputure came out with a bowens mount COB I was thrilled because I knew much better how to shape light with a softbox than most traditional video lights! It is crazy to see how things have shifted!
I’ve wanted to bounce light for ages but I truly do not have the space for it! But I use the ol 120d for a key light with the 60d with spotlight for interesting backlight and an LED wand for a rim light
Awesome shot of all the aperture light boxes in the background.
Man, I could listen to you talk about lighting all day. Also the new cut looks great, makes you look a lot more masculine
I found specially with a lot of interview to famous D.O.P that everyone start with less gear and then with time buying more and more light doing enormous set to light a scene to eventually with experience return to utilize the less amount of gear possible, prioritizing the simplistic way to light a scene
Wow from feeling like “a photographer” to “Hollywood DP” all with one light 😂❤
Man, thank you for sharing your journey. It was INCREDIBLY easy to relate to your beginnings, being there now myself in a lot of ways. Talking about how making decisions based on feeling like a professional-looking setup is needed to affirm you was a fantastic point. Thank you for your content!
Best sentence of the video:
I dont think so much about lighting any more, but about the story!! ❤️😊
So true. Lighting is a tool, when you have no good story to tell, it doesnt matter, how great a scene looks! :)
If you were hired as a cinematographer and thought like that you would be fired the same day. It always matters how things look. A video is not radio. Ask any film distributor, any advertiser, any person actually paying money for content.
@@robertruffo2134 thx for the response. I wasnt as clear as I wanted to be:
Lighting does matter! But lighting without a good story is also a easy way to get fired ;)
so you need both!
And yes, when talking about Feature Films, good lighting gets more attention then good story, thats why there are so many bad movies.
In smaller production I always emphasize the story before thinking about lighting.
And yes: lighting and story are interconnected and cannot be seen seperately, I know :)
Amazing video! I loved how honest you were. I feel like I resonate so much with your journey and I feel the excitement you have about learning new ways of doing thing. And the ending was so great! Now that I’m not a working professional anymore I cut my equipment by a factor of 10 and somehow create just as compelling images. What a good message to spread
You look so much better with the buzzed head. Fits you really well. You went from dork to cool.
That was excellent. I needed that. Thank you for your work!
Lewis Potts is the mannnnnn! I love it when you guys shout out the people I already sub to.
Wonderfully done! My favorite video on lighting to cap the year.
idk why but your diy light and softbox looks so much better to me as the good looking lights before LED
Am I the only one that is super happy to see Lynn again? Yeah video was great blah blah blah 😊 but Lynn is back hahahaha!
Love the honesty. Thanks. Super interesting watching the transition. Agreed the final setup seemed overkill for most situations.
The problem with the massive lighthing around ,is that we reduce the space that actors can move.At the end of the video you said the best tip! So simple,cheap, time saver , and the same time so good!
exactly. And it seems like to get good lighting- there's no middle-way to pull that off. You must introduce all those huge C-stands and crammed workspace. Who knows? Maybe it would look 80% good with only that Aputure 120 + Light dome?
@@eladbari yes thats true ,that is my way also 2-3 lights with small reflectors or bounce at the wall mostly ,avoiding all this huge set up and i can afford that the result is 80% good
@@PERIKLISTSINTZAS What kind of lights / brands you use?
@@eladbari the cheapest 2 godox 60w another chinese like godox style 150 watt ,2 yongnuo 60 ,and another tolifo 80w with batteries (godox style) and 3 simple reflectors (5 in one,1-2 meters for difusion (i rarely use negative fill) weebil s for stabilization and a 50 euros haze machine 😜😜 when i make a short i do not have the time and budget to pay ,so i film with the help of 1-2 friends
That last one is definitely “best” IMO and just controlling full on the face gives you control over the mood.
You and Lewis Potts are a godsend to the fillmaking community
Thanks!!!!
What an amazing journey.. thank you for sharing❤
I love the content you produce. It’s so authentic & engaging. Thank you!!!
Thanks so much!!!!
Thanks for this valuable video! You are talking from my heart! I love to light on my way too. When I was investing to my light gear, I saw the same you're saying, that there is a trend and there is the traditional way of lighting, using light modifiers....
I haven't been watching TH-cam lately but I enjoyed this a lot. It was cool to see the amount of expensive lights you used just for little details like filling up a room in the background. The effect of the negative fill really surprised me. I know this was used but seeing the a and b side by side was really interesting. Relying on windows makes me really nervous though, as beautiful as it may look, I always end up shooting on cloudy days where the exposure and wb is all over the place...
Love it so much I unsubscribed ❤
Thanks for the video, it gave me strength to keep trying
Thank you for another great video! When one see a new video being posted from you guys it’s like getting a present from Santa. You just want to tear up to wrapping and start watching. Of course without subscribing…. Would never do that. Ever…❤
In conjunction with this, log, raw and finally waaaaaaaaaay better dynamic range on sensors has also facilitated the move to just using a window like we probably should have right in the beginning.
This lighting journey is so close and raw it almost hurts, though I did stop buying more stuff after the 120D and went to windows from there because of a Mark Bone video. Had I started making money from videos sooner, I definitely would have made it to at least the 300D II which I remember being on sale here in NZ a while back, solely for the ability to fill faces on full sun backlighting.
Your video got me right in the feels man and kudos to your wife for being able to sit through the hot lights. I only ever had off-brand red heads, they were hot enough.
Like the new do! Good stuff, as always.
Great video man! And yeah that Lewis Potts is awesome learning a lot from you both thanks a ton!!
What a story, Mark!
No, seriously I love it!
The greatest lighting channel out there! If I could watch this video in the beginning of my filmmaking path it would be much less complicated haha
I'm about to start a new videography job on Wednesday and I've watched your videos religiously to help me prepare!
Great video... but the digital IS wobble was brutal. Lot of the clips were jello like, like at 7:04. Must be the digital IS on the C70. I still love you guys :)
THIS IS AMAZING!!! Love your channel
Thanks so so much!!!
thank you for this one. I think this will change my way of working. I liked what you said in the end about trends and how nothing is original these days. At this point I have learned enough about lighting to be able to experiment without making the basic mistakes. I am so tired of everyone's opinion about right and wrong, when the lighting can be a preference or intentional.
Fantastic video man!!!
I love your videos. I’m a full-time commercial still photographer, and I’ve learned a ton from you the past couple of years as I’ve added in a bit of video to better serve my clients. Funny how you mentioned the soft box looked like a still photographer’s set up. I have the same set up but with a Godox VL150. Keep it up man!
Hey thanks!!!! I’m so happy a photographer is watching this channel!! I have a lot of respect for commercial photographers
@@EpicLightMedia Thanks! Been following you the past couple of years, give or take. I always enjoy your content and sense of humor. Look forward to more!
This is a fantastic video, and took me beyond my film school training but showing me how I was really only introduced to how to do the max glam look but that's just a style really. I think every filmmaker who wants to learn about lighting should watch this
Do you feel that tungsten lights are out of the window to use? It seems like the color just needs gels to be controlled. Though I guess those might just be left for when you have other people focusing on that part for you
THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING VIDEO! Really awesome thank you!
Thanks so much!!!
Thank you!
I’ve had a love hate relationship with lighting since the start
My first endeavor was getting the classic work flood light from Home Depot
the aputure MC was my second chapter- realizing that it’s not powerful enough to work as a key light outside of a highly controlled environment
I then took on just shooting everything natural
I then later got a job as a full time videographer with access to the 300D MKii and have only used them for 4 commercials. The c stand carrying case and just overall are so freaking heavy to carry around and it’s a process to set up as a one man crew.
I feel like every time I think about lighting too much and try to manipulate it, I end up making things worse. I guess I’m just a natural light guy.
Maybe one day I’ll master them, but the classic TH-cam set up with the 120d and giant dome is just too basic of a look to me and it gets way overused.
Just my opinion.
Really enjoyed the video! Thanks!
I agree at the end. I'm a solo freelancer and carrying around even 3 lights with 3 diffusion sources and 3 C-stands is a lot on its own before we even talk about cameras and audio gear.
I loved this video. You have no idea how much. 💖🎥
yo i love lewis potts and it made me smile so big when you did that for him! thanks for the wisdom!
What a Legend you are!
This is so inspiring and interesting
Interesting journey. I've found negative key extremely useful in photography and doing 360s.
Such a brilliant video
Real nice content..
Nice trip down memory lane. I remember how we thought the fluorescent lights were great that they generated almost no heat compared to the old Lowell's but the light quality was meh. Moving to the first adjustable light temp LED's, they looked great too, but the throw was horrible. Any distance from the subject and they were way too dim. Looks like the modern versions have it just right.
Thanks!
I think for me the main thing that changed lighting for me was the COB lights. My Amaran 100d & 60x are so much easier to modify then my old panel lights. Plus they are nice and small for packing light
Hey, the thumbnail is epic and gave me a good lough, thank you :D
I don't know why Shane does the cyan to ceiling, maybe for the orange teal look?
But if you ad blue/cyan to the ceiling on the window side it can create a more natural light because normally on a sunny day you won't have a single source light coming into the window - you also have the blue reflection from the heaven.
You forgot to mention that we also need to be insane...
Insanity first, otherwise, most of us would have had a 9-5 job.
some of u sdo
I like those slightly janky DIY experiments. I'm more of a sound person but I'm definitely going through the equivalent stage myself, and I think there's a lot of value in going through that.
If you had to start over today, what would be your starting kit in order to grow and learn?
Very nice, well thought and entertaining.👍😉
Thanks!!!
I really, really like this video. I was thinking about the evolution too. How many things have changed since I graduated from film school about 6 yrs ago. Im seeing less 10ks, 5ks and more Led lights like aperture that don't get as hot:)
Great video! What camera is used in the examples?
Ursa 12k
Love it
When Lynn smiles, your video begins to make sense.
Really cool Video, I learned so much. Why did u use a 1200 Light and darken it instead of a 600 and lighten it?🤔
The real story needs realistic light, fantasy - needs fantastic light!
ur videos are so engaging
Oh thanks!!!
Never could get into COB lights... the cabling spaghetti and flipping huge modifiers for travel. I still sneak in my ancient Lowel RIFA 88 & 55 kit for interviews when I know there won't be a window in the shot... tungsten just looks too dang good and the Lowel fixtures pack so dang small & light
For me, you're the best channel. One of the last to be ORIGINAL. I like your energy
I'm giving a thumb down to help you with the algorithm tho lol
Thanks!!
thanks for this
its funny how you went full circle back to windows. I think the dynamic range of digital cameras has caught up to high contrast lighting. also, how do you feel about 1917 lighting. they only used clouds as diffusion. I think the best cloud cover is 15% stratus for optimum camera work.
You remind me sometimes of Andy from Parks and Recreation 😂 love your channel!
That must be a compliment?
@@EpicLightMedia It is! 😊
Already a subscriber of potts.
How did you get the negative fill effect there near the end? If you could recommend 1 book or movie to study lighting for someone new to it, what would that be?
FIRST !!! love your videos !!!
Important note, it ends with just opening the window
One reason to avoid that is if the window lighting is inconsistent
If there are clouds that can go in and out causing the brightness to drastically change or if the sun is going up/down
Also by opening the window you introduce any color cast that may be present, I find that my shots tend to be more green if there is a lot of sun bouncing off of foliage which can not be great on skin and makes color grading difficult when mixing it with studio lights
You can overcome a lot of that by sticking a 1200d on that window (from the outside).
But how well do these hold up to a roof throw?
Windows on a steady cloudy day are the best! They only tend to get problematic, if interviews take a long time due to the light direction shifting. But for a half hour take - diffuse the heck out of windows and let the sun do the work.
I remember using fluorescent lights at work, so big and bulky.
Nice.
I think the trend to film with less lights is directly connected to what you mentioned about there just being too much gear
great
My trajectory too except starting with Lowells
Lugging my Tota kit back and forth to film school on the train.😀
I also started with lights from Home Depot! lol...
i can relate to so much of this! 😅
I went to a television studio closing down and bought all of their lighting for about $500 and I thought I was King of Glow Up island. Those things burned hot and could barely be adjusted. Absolute nightmare.
I love the "not popular" way!
So I have godox sl60 or Gvm 80s so would one light with big softbox have softer look vs my nova300 with softbox on it?
So this light on my iphone.........it cost as much as a aputure 600d so.... I'm a professional?
I think I'm on the greenish LED part. Going to upgrade soon. :)
I'm loving watching this journey, if for no other reason, than to confirm that I belong (imposter syndrome, man). My lighting evolution was pretty much identical.
I'm still a fan of fluorescent lighting, but led has come a long way. It's hard to find reasons to go back.
Just love mixing all these ideas up! Doing lots of bounce experiments atm - am I right in thinking that the 2x fresnel doubles the output on the 300d2?
That’s my most powerful light and am thinking may be able to get good power to do that bounce book light - cheers for your great channel but I did unsub as commanded
Damn it,I wanted to watch some of your other videos but you said not to watch your channel ever again! 🤣
Stop watching our channel!!!!!!
@@EpicLightMedia just one more... on Christmas day...please...🤣
Bro whipped out the window at end, what a twist
I love their guest host Kratos in this episode.