I would definitely watch more of these! Class A, Class B, and Class C comparisons. Ike Gauntlets, Fuel loops, and Performance comparisons. Towing tests would also be appreciated!!! The real world testing you guys do would be awesome: dry camping tests of batteries and tank capacities would be great to see. Dry camping does involve some off road so you guys would be all set to try some of that as well. Thanks very much for what you guys do. Love the channel and variety!!!
I follow a few RV channels on TH-cam, and none of them do any testing like this. I really think you have found something here. It is one thing to know what features and equipment is in an RV, but how does it perform? No one that I know of is doing that. I think the Ike Gauntlet test is the perfect test to help buyers select the RV that suits their needs. I vote for TFLRV. Keep up the great videos.
I agree doing a RVing / towing side show on the TFLT channel. I'm RV trailer owner. Two points on towing, Mph really effects MPG's and at what sweet spot does the tranny stay in over-drive while towing. That is why the eco-boost gets poor gas mileage with towing a heavy load because it has to stay at a higher rpm.
This episode is awesome and I've never seen any publication test and dyno a mobile home. I'm not interested in one, but it's interesting and good to know you can mod a mobile home.
Especially a motorhome! I modify everything from Corvettes and tire-shredding Duramax diesels to sportbikes and even a bicycle that I installed a weed-wacker engine on that could do 48mph! My motorhome is a Chevy Vortec 454 V8- and while not car-fast, would destroy this V10 motorhome in a drag race, uphill, and in MPG with my modifications. I havent even tuned it yet, there is lots more that I still have planned for it. You can't have too much power in these buildings on wheels! As evidenced by this video, motorhomes lose over 100HP from the crank to the wheels from a restrictive intake and exhaust, etc. Then losing even more power to turn a huge driveshaft, differential and axle, and extremely heavy dually wheels. My 'Big Bertha' is 21 years old and worked hard weekly, still running perfect with the mods too. I wouldnt drive a motorhome without modifications!
I’ve got a 2014 Tiffin Allegro and the main reason people get the tune is drivability. In stock form the transmission is wonky with shifts that don’t always make sense. For this reason I usually drive mine in tow/haul mode which helps a lot. The 5-Star Tune completely fixes the issue. I give it 5 stars.
The tow/haul locks the torque in every gear except first. By doing this it lowers the fluid temperatures by not using the fluid coupling of the torque converter. The reason the hp and torque numbers are so low, is the testing they show you is in Colorado. The mass of the drive line really saps the "power" not to mention the commercial tires(height) causes loses to the dyno. 31" tire vs 35"tire will show very different results on the same vehicle and day
Mines a Chevy Powertrain ('98 Vortec 454 with mods- much quicker than this Ford) but with Ford headlights. I had to change them because they were slowing it down!
Thank you for doing this to all the gas rv owners out there who knew about the 5 star tuning and was curious to know what difference would it make now we know thanks to this channel .. im sharing this video !!!
The only thing you could compare that V10 to is a house with a lawnmower engine (31seconds to 60, and sounding like its gonna blow)! That LS Winnie is pretty quick though. Itll lay the smack down on my Vortec 454 motorhome, while my old '98 technology (modified😉) will walk all over this new Ford V10. I laugh all the way to the bank, every time I go 'tour' these new RVs, then go back to mine!
Also all of you bitching about how your motor home is faster if it even is I would bet there not has heavy as this one plus I have driven many bucket trucks with vortec era 454s and fords with v10s the v10 pulls a lot better plus it has 2more gears so you people must be high or something now if your talking about chevys 8.1 that’s a different story and as far as the turbo wino it would come apart running up the Ike running wide open
There is no wonder why you guys have so many subscribers - straight forward information from knowledgeable journalists with entertainment to boot! I had a 38' Class A with the 6.8 Ford and found it to be a capable engine, I just wasn't comfortable with the noise from the high rpm when pulling hills. I believe, like you guys showed, that the tuner would have made a big difference for me. Thanks for another great video!
You should do a ike gauntlet with RVs take 2 or 3 of the most popular from each category of RV and put them against each other and include Class B, Class C, Gas class A, diesel class A, super C, Truck conversions(renegade, showhauler etc), bus conversions(prevost, newell, foretravel etc) and do towing tests etc. You can't find this sort of info anywhere so it would be pretty interesting and valuable.
@@bmcdonald7303 You can still get the Banks kits for the 460. The headers are great, and stock 460 exhaust manifolds often get leaks in them and can crack pretty easily. The stainless headers and exhaust are a huge improvement over factory exhaust, if not for power, than for overall reliability. You don't have to get the transmission electronics from Banks when you get the 460 kit, however, you get better shift performance from the Banks transmission electronics. They claim that their shift timing and the increased fluid pressures that the transmission runs during certain engine output conditions helps to reduce wear in the transmission by changing the shift points and increasing the positivity of clutch pack actions during shifts.
@snoboy5898 wow...old post from me. No real increase in noise. The benefit is in the shifting. Less hunting for the right gear. Not as sluggish.....but its still a motorhome. I pulled a c-max, still got 12 mpg, Imperial....so...10 USA...overall. worth the cost if you're doing a lot of miles. You may want to get a tuner, too.......not for increased power, but to avoid MANY check engine lights.....computer needs to know about the increased airflow . Otherwise, too many false alerts regarding airflow sensor failure. (Cost me a bundle before I figured that out). Better than cheating by using a cheap OBD reading to just cancel the false alert.
Really not that big of an improvement, which is understandable for this NA engine. Need to go with a turbodiesel in this application if it's available. I appreciate the sponsor allowing you to test this anyways, and their EcoBoost tunes look great.
To get any performance increase the cost easily triple or quadruple from the factory. Meaning an L9 the B6.7 do not produce pickup type hp and torque numbers.
Thanks for posting your very through review. Results were less performance & gas mileage improvement than I would have expected with your 5 star tune up .
So, I have one of these. You didn't mention what went into the tune and how much it costs for the upgrade. That's a big factor when trying to decide whether to make the investment.
Oh, the possibilities with TFLRV. You could pit the Coachmen Crossfit/Beyond with the 3.7 against the 3.5 EcoBoost. Get with LTV and put a Sprinter with diesel against a Transit with diesel. Or see if there are any differences between Class A and Class C with V-10.
When I drove a Uhual to help my Brother move the Uhual actually done better through Pennsylvania after I turned tow haul mode off.I got where I would build up speed on the way down hill to help me maintain speed going up the next hill.
Wow guys perfect timing. Thinking about going from our diesel pusher to a gas RV with a V10. I know performance is going to be dramatically different and glad to see the possibility of improving it. Maybe a mileage test on your 100 mile loop would be interesting? Also subscribe to many RV mags and websites and TFL is the first I've seen that did "Real world testing" on an RV! Keep up the great work you guys do and I'm ordering a T shirt!
I occasionally drive a 2005 Chevy C8500 at work, and fully loaded at 33,000 lbs, I get a solid 75 second 0-60. (Almost completely flat at about 100ft above sea level.)
Yes I would also watch it and I think it could provide a lot of very valuable info to someone looking to buy a RV especially if they do towing test etc because it might make someone realise they don't need to spend another 100k on a RV to get a bigger engine so they can tow.
You should definitely continue to do RV reviews. Especially with the new 7.3 l Ford coming with new TVs starting 2020. This video came at the time I was considering to buy one. Great job.
Yeah that would be a very interesting comparison, particularly if they got one of a similar length and weight. As someone who may be buying a Class A in a few years I would love to see that. I already know I would prefer a diesel but there is huge price difference.
Watched this video. Bought the tuner for my 2019 Tiffin V10 gas, which struggled to maintain 70MPH on the highway and wanted to run at 67-68. After installation today, the RV runs comfortably at 73-75 MPH with the lightest press of the gas pedal. This tuner is fabulous. Acceleration off the line is so much improved. I disliked the V10 enough that I considered trading my 2019 for the new 2021 Tiffin (same model, 38 foot or the 36UA model), for the new 7.3L Ford V8. Dealer wants my coach plus $55,000.00 just to gain 30HP on the new V8. Well, I am so glad I tried the 5-Star tuner, as it made this RV more of a driver's machine. I won't be opting for the new 7.3L V8....this upgrade on the 6.8L V10 is good enough to be happy. BTW, this review is dead-on accurate and factual. It's exactly what you will obtain for the price of this tuner. Highly recommend.
its always cool to me that even ford trucks that were discontinued 15 plus years ago parts are still manufactured and used in modern day rvs and f650 plus size trucks, the dash is from a 2005 super duty in this rv even though it's a 2016 rv. I know demand is still there for old replacement parts for older trucks but a lot of parts used on new rv and f650 trucks can be found even from 2000 model trucks lol.
I don’t have a motorhome yet but hope to in a year. I’ve been thinking of a shot of nitrous for hills and passing. Cheapest and easiest means of boosting power. Nitrous isn’t a “fuel”, by the way. It’s an oxidizer. Using a “wet” nitrous system includes an additional shot of gasoline along with the extra oxygen. The nozzles are on a plate that is inserted under the carb or behind the throttle body in EFI. A simple nitrous metering nozzle change gives you the added power for your needs in measured steps. Much simpler than a turbo or a Procharger.
TFL I would love for you take one truck i.e. F150 and tow 3 different types of travel trailers all about the same weight and size but of the different styles a teardrop, a rounded nose, and a square nose and find out what, if any fuel saving these designs effect the truck's gas mileage. Thanks for your great work
This was great! Can you please do the same thing with the F53 with a 7.3 when one becomes available? Love to see if the Godzilla really would be worth the wait over the tried and true 6.8!
this was an awesome but random video, something that has been missing since the beginning TFL video's and has been slowly coming back during the past year or so. still love the channel, keep up with out there things like this. i would have to mention that the fuel mileage in something like this isint far off of the so called "eco" mpg's. i believe a 3.3ish towing and the brick is getting in the 4's, though up and down, dont see much "eco" in those new motors.
Do you plan on doing a test run with the new 7.3 engine in the F53 chassis that will be showing up on the dealer lots soon if not already. Word is Ford engineers finally got off the pot and redesigned some things on the chassis and a bigger engine, it only took about 24 years!! Well lets hope it works out for them. I like my 6.8 and plan to put a tune in it sometime in the future.
I'd love to know if over a long trip if there is a tangible increase in MPG, I'm getting it simply for the better acceleration down low, 100 lbft improvement at 2100 rpm is significant, thanks for the video on this guys, bring us more like perhaps with a CAI even though I don't see that improving things much.
In case anyone is wondering what a stock one is like. My v10 class c E450 32ft gets about 6.5 mpg with my lead foot. No more than 7 anytime. It’s loud because it’s right next to you. They rev high a lot. On a flat highway it’ll do 75-80 but you should probably keep it lower than 70. Have done the same mountain as I’m in CO. When to the floor your going about 45 max. Then some ass in a piece of crap will get in front of you and you loose all momentum and you can’t pass because you can’t! I do like the Torqshift transmission though, especially on downhill. In tow/haul it senses that your going down and will downshift automatically to keep your speed down. I’m sure the 7.3 gas will be a little better for power but not much.
Curious how the tune would take advantage of a Banks full header back exhaust including high flow cat and some type of fully enclosed CAI. Sound difference as well? There are a lot of V10's in the world that sound awesome at full song.
This is the way that you should do all of the Ike gauntlet mpg measurements. Relying on the dash “lie-o-meter” for mpg does not give an accurate pic. Also , ideally a dyno test should be done to make sure that the OEMs aren’t giving “tuned” trucks for the test (btw I really suspect that the Silverado 2.7L turbo was an OEM tuned truck .... especially with the low mpgs)
They probably leaned out the fuel at highway cruising rpms which would cause more heat and wear in the cylinders and made the transmission gear changes more aggressive adding more reliability concerns. That being said they are just concerns, it could be so minuscule that it never matters or the opposite. No one for sure knows until its too late.
I have 5 star tune on my vehicle and love it. It has made my truck more reliable, better performing, improved mileage, and much more comfortable to drive. I would never hesitate to recommend 5 star for anything.
Wow, wouldn't have thought a gas 38' would weight over 23k, that's pretty heavy for gas motor. They certainly would benefit from a comparable diesel w/Allison transmission. Would be nice to do a comparison on a diesel rig. Love the review as I have an older 95 Diesel pusher 39' rig that probably wouldn't be any faster, but sure pulls easier on hills at half the RPM.
Yeah. Tuning rvs can be really helpful. There’s also a few companies out there, more notably one called Ujoint Offroad, that does 4x4 conversions on class Cs. Would be cool to see some in action on your TFLoffroad channel! As far as these v10s go, there’s a word of note! I’m going to be vague due to lack of certain numbers, but here goes: the older v10s were a 2 valve. The newer ones are a 3 valve, with like, 50 more hp??? The class Cs “never” got the 3 valve? And other than the 31ft class Cs, the 29s and under have a 4 speed, not a 5 speed (ugh. Fml). I plan on looking into the Banks Power kit for my 29ft v10. I wonder how it’ll compare with new headers and exhaust, as well as a tune? Would be great for you guys to look into some of this!
Class C E series only came with 2v engines 4.6 ,5.4 and 6.8. After 2014 the passenger and cargo vans E series were dropped. The E series cut away chassis is still available with the 6.2 and 7.3 . Diesels were dropped before 2010 in the E series.
Roman really set us up like something was going to happen... and then nothing happened lol. I used to have a motor home and the gas pump would max out at 80-100 dollars before the tank would fill up!!
Manufacturers power ratings are at the crank not rear wheels but holy crap that's a huge difference in stock form between advertised and real world dyno.
I think a more moderate road trip would really go a long way. No pun intended. This test was somewhat extreme for showing the tune improvements. Let's try a 30 mile loop over moderate interstate or highway!
It’s has 2007-2013 Chevy Silverado headlights and taillights. When ever I see RVs a lot of them have headlights and tail lights form cars, is it cheaper to use lights form other cars instead of making their own?
Definitely not a game changer for me. I drive a 36' MH with the V10 5 speed tranny and don't have an issue going up and down the mountains I have come across. Also, seems 50mph is pretty fast to go down the steep side. What are the truckers doing? All the steep grades I ever been on, usually it's 35mph going down which the torque-shift 5 speed tranny has had no issues doing. I think you were going at an unsafe speed downhill, IMHO. I climb a 6 plus mile 7% grade doing 40-50mph with my stock V10 towing about 4300lbs behind me fully loaded with a week supplies.
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I would definitely watch more of these! Class A, Class B, and Class C comparisons. Ike Gauntlets, Fuel loops, and Performance comparisons. Towing tests would also be appreciated!!! The real world testing you guys do would be awesome: dry camping tests of batteries and tank capacities would be great to see. Dry camping does involve some off road so you guys would be all set to try some of that as well. Thanks very much for what you guys do. Love the channel and variety!!!
Maybe a "TFL RV" channel dedicated to testing and reviewing RVs.
Try gold mine Hill lol
Agreed. Let’s do it!
I follow a few RV channels on TH-cam, and none of them do any testing like this. I really think you have found something here. It is one thing to know what features and equipment is in an RV, but how does it perform? No one that I know of is doing that. I think the Ike Gauntlet test is the perfect test to help buyers select the RV that suits their needs. I vote for TFLRV. Keep up the great videos.
100% agree, I also for a TFLRV channel.
problem with it is ALL the new gas class a's use the v10 right now only the smaller class c's and b's have other $$$$$$ options
I agree doing a RVing / towing side show on the TFLT channel. I'm RV trailer owner. Two points on towing, Mph really effects MPG's and at what sweet spot does the tranny stay in over-drive while towing. That is why the eco-boost gets poor gas mileage with towing a heavy load because it has to stay at a higher rpm.
This episode is awesome and I've never seen any publication test and dyno a mobile home. I'm not interested in one, but it's interesting and good to know you can mod a mobile home.
Especially a motorhome! I modify everything from Corvettes and tire-shredding Duramax diesels to sportbikes and even a bicycle that I installed a weed-wacker engine on that could do 48mph! My motorhome is a Chevy Vortec 454 V8- and while not car-fast, would destroy this V10 motorhome in a drag race, uphill, and in MPG with my modifications. I havent even tuned it yet, there is lots more that I still have planned for it. You can't have too much power in these buildings on wheels! As evidenced by this video, motorhomes lose over 100HP from the crank to the wheels from a restrictive intake and exhaust, etc. Then losing even more power to turn a huge driveshaft, differential and axle, and extremely heavy dually wheels. My 'Big Bertha' is 21 years old and worked hard weekly, still running perfect with the mods too. I wouldnt drive a motorhome without modifications!
First time I’ve ever seen a big class A rv on a dyno and dragstrip!! 😆😄
TFLRV would be huge! Do it!
I’ve got a 2014 Tiffin Allegro and the main reason people get the tune is drivability. In stock form the transmission is wonky with shifts that don’t always make sense. For this reason I usually drive mine in tow/haul mode which helps a lot. The 5-Star Tune completely fixes the issue. I give it 5 stars.
The tow/haul locks the torque in every gear except first. By doing this it lowers the fluid temperatures by not using the fluid coupling of the torque converter. The reason the hp and torque numbers are so low, is the testing they show you is in Colorado. The mass of the drive line really saps the "power" not to mention the commercial tires(height) causes loses to the dyno. 31" tire vs 35"tire will show very different results on the same vehicle and day
Ford power train, Chevy head and tail lights lol.
2nd generation chevy lights
LumpyCraft they are 07-13 Silverado lights.
lol stole it
Mines a Chevy Powertrain ('98 Vortec 454 with mods- much quicker than this Ford) but with Ford headlights. I had to change them because they were slowing it down!
Those old vortecs were some thirsty sob's!!! What are you getting...1.5 mpg?!🤔🤨😅🤣😂
Thank you for doing this to all the gas rv owners out there who knew about the 5 star tuning and was curious to know what difference would it make now we know thanks to this channel .. im sharing this video !!!
18:00 "I have nothing to compare it against"
How about a good old TH-cam call-out vs the sloppy mechanic turbo LS Winnebago?
The only thing you could compare that V10 to is a house with a lawnmower engine (31seconds to 60, and sounding like its gonna blow)! That LS Winnie is pretty quick though. Itll lay the smack down on my Vortec 454 motorhome, while my old '98 technology (modified😉) will walk all over this new Ford V10. I laugh all the way to the bank, every time I go 'tour' these new RVs, then go back to mine!
That floppy noodle of a V10 is no match against the turbo LS Bago
Also all of you bitching about how your motor home is faster if it even is I would bet there not has heavy as this one plus I have driven many bucket trucks with vortec era 454s and fords with v10s the v10 pulls a lot better plus it has 2more gears so you people must be high or something now if your talking about chevys 8.1 that’s a different story and as far as the turbo wino it would come apart running up the Ike running wide open
Finally an RV episode. You guys should do more RV episodes since its a huge industry and there is a lot of interest in it.
There is no wonder why you guys have so many subscribers - straight forward information from knowledgeable journalists with entertainment to boot! I had a 38' Class A with the 6.8 Ford and found it to be a capable engine, I just wasn't comfortable with the noise from the high rpm when pulling hills. I believe, like you guys showed, that the tuner would have made a big difference for me. Thanks for another great video!
You should do a ike gauntlet with RVs take 2 or 3 of the most popular from each category of RV and put them against each other and include Class B, Class C, Gas class A, diesel class A, super C, Truck conversions(renegade, showhauler etc), bus conversions(prevost, newell, foretravel etc) and do towing tests etc. You can't find this sort of info anywhere so it would be pretty interesting and valuable.
TheDestroyer32 this would be fun to watch
I LOVE that you guys did this RV testing. Please please more RV turning/testing!! I'm a full time rver and there's a lot of us!!
You should DEFINITELY DO MORE RV REVIEWS. Great video
no, they shouldn't
I liked watching Andre do the drag runs. His reactions were hilarious. It's as though he was about to surpass ludicrous speed and go plaid. 😄
This is something I'd like to see more of. I will be in the market for a gas class A in a few years.
This is very relevant to me.
Why? Because, ‘Merica! This is an awesome video!!! 🤘🏻
A Banks power pack(headers and larger exhaust pipes) really does make a huge difference....sure did on my Tiifin MH.
I have a ‘95 Bounder 35 with a 460 and the Banks power kit and Banks transmission kit. It makes a huge difference.
@@jeromep I may need to look into this for my 99 National tropical.
@@bmcdonald7303 You can still get the Banks kits for the 460. The headers are great, and stock 460 exhaust manifolds often get leaks in them and can crack pretty easily. The stainless headers and exhaust are a huge improvement over factory exhaust, if not for power, than for overall reliability. You don't have to get the transmission electronics from Banks when you get the 460 kit, however, you get better shift performance from the Banks transmission electronics. They claim that their shift timing and the increased fluid pressures that the transmission runs during certain engine output conditions helps to reduce wear in the transmission by changing the shift points and increasing the positivity of clutch pack actions during shifts.
How much louder did the banks headers make the Motor home?
@snoboy5898 wow...old post from me. No real increase in noise. The benefit is in the shifting. Less hunting for the right gear. Not as sluggish.....but its still a motorhome. I pulled a c-max, still got 12 mpg, Imperial....so...10 USA...overall. worth the cost if you're doing a lot of miles. You may want to get a tuner, too.......not for increased power, but to avoid MANY check engine lights.....computer needs to know about the increased airflow . Otherwise, too many false alerts regarding airflow sensor failure. (Cost me a bundle before I figured that out). Better than cheating by using a cheap OBD reading to just cancel the false alert.
I would love to see you guys do this exact test with a diesel pusher model! More RV Tests!
In 50,000 miles, the difference in gas mileage would save 559 gallons, which is $1347 assuming the gas stays the same price you paid that day.
Which is almost nothing! I wouldn't tune to save on gas
I wonder how much it saves on normal roads as opposed to going over the Rockies, something most people spend very little time doing.
Ford chassis, ford engine and transmission, ford gauge cluster, Chevy headlights, and Chevy taillights
Ford builds the chassis, the motor home company builds the coach.
That exhaust actually sounds pretty damn good.
Really not that big of an improvement, which is understandable for this NA engine. Need to go with a turbodiesel in this application if it's available. I appreciate the sponsor allowing you to test this anyways, and their EcoBoost tunes look great.
To get any performance increase the cost easily triple or quadruple from the factory. Meaning an L9 the B6.7 do not produce pickup type hp and torque numbers.
This is awesome!
Tuning an RV, then running it on the dyno- Only Fast Lane Truck!
Thanks for posting your very through review. Results were less performance & gas mileage improvement than I would have expected with your 5 star tune up .
So, I have one of these. You didn't mention what went into the tune and how much it costs for the upgrade. That's a big factor when trying to decide whether to make the investment.
Oh, the possibilities with TFLRV. You could pit the Coachmen Crossfit/Beyond with the 3.7 against the 3.5 EcoBoost. Get with LTV and put a Sprinter with diesel against a Transit with diesel. Or see if there are any differences between Class A and Class C with V-10.
When I drove a Uhual to help my Brother move the Uhual actually done better through Pennsylvania after I turned tow haul mode off.I got where I would build up speed on the way down hill to help me maintain speed going up the next hill.
You picked the right Motorhome a Tiffin 36 LA great manufacture and the best floor plan in the gas lineup.
To bad the Quality is typical for today's employees, look at when they focused on the v 10 badge and the panel gap. 4:10 ish time
I would love TFL RV, there's no channel like it out there
Wow guys perfect timing. Thinking about going from our diesel pusher to a gas RV with a V10. I know performance is going to be dramatically different and glad to see the possibility of improving it. Maybe a mileage test on your 100 mile loop would be interesting? Also subscribe to many RV mags and websites and TFL is the first I've seen that did "Real world testing" on an RV! Keep up the great work you guys do and I'm ordering a T shirt!
I occasionally drive a 2005 Chevy C8500 at work, and fully loaded at 33,000 lbs, I get a solid 75 second 0-60. (Almost completely flat at about 100ft above sea level.)
This video is amazing. Doing tow tests and mpg testing would be great for all the racers who haul to the track.
Are you thinking of a new channel "TFL RV". … I would watch it ;O)
Hell Yeah!
Yes I would also watch it and I think it could provide a lot of very valuable info to someone looking to buy a RV especially if they do towing test etc because it might make someone realise they don't need to spend another 100k on a RV to get a bigger engine so they can tow.
You should definitely continue to do RV reviews. Especially with the new 7.3 l Ford coming with new TVs starting 2020. This video came at the time I was considering to buy one. Great job.
can't wait for the new 7.3 RVs
now you have to do a diesel pusher
Yeah that would be a very interesting comparison, particularly if they got one of a similar length and weight. As someone who may be buying a Class A in a few years I would love to see that. I already know I would prefer a diesel but there is huge price difference.
@@davva360 we rip passed gassers in our diesel pusher through the mountains. It's worth it
@@MW-gh3lt what engine/trans do you have?
This is how you guys should test every truck. Towing Ike gauntlet, mpg, tuning, drag race in one video. I love it
Man you guys can make a video of any vehicle entertaining.
Watched this video. Bought the tuner for my 2019 Tiffin V10 gas, which struggled to maintain 70MPH on the highway and wanted to run at 67-68. After installation today, the RV runs comfortably at 73-75 MPH with the lightest press of the gas pedal. This tuner is fabulous. Acceleration off the line is so much improved. I disliked the V10 enough that I considered trading my 2019 for the new 2021 Tiffin (same model, 38 foot or the 36UA model), for the new 7.3L Ford V8. Dealer wants my coach plus $55,000.00 just to gain 30HP on the new V8. Well, I am so glad I tried the 5-Star tuner, as it made this RV more of a driver's machine. I won't be opting for the new 7.3L V8....this upgrade on the 6.8L V10 is good enough to be happy. BTW, this review is dead-on accurate and factual. It's exactly what you will obtain for the price of this tuner. Highly recommend.
What’s the price??
its always cool to me that even ford trucks that were discontinued 15 plus years ago parts are still manufactured and used in modern day rvs and f650 plus size trucks, the dash is from a 2005 super duty in this rv even though it's a 2016 rv. I know demand is still there for old replacement parts for older trucks but a lot of parts used on new rv and f650 trucks can be found even from 2000 model trucks lol.
The torque improvement is pretty impressive. 👍🏽
I don’t have a motorhome yet but hope to in a year. I’ve been thinking of a shot of nitrous for hills and passing. Cheapest and easiest means of boosting power. Nitrous isn’t a “fuel”, by the way. It’s an oxidizer. Using a “wet” nitrous system includes an additional shot of gasoline along with the extra oxygen. The nozzles are on a plate that is inserted under the carb or behind the throttle body in EFI. A simple nitrous metering nozzle change gives you the added power for your needs in measured steps. Much simpler than a turbo or a Procharger.
The sheer amount of mass produced off the shelf parts is both hilarious and genuinely genius
Great vid! More RV videos! Also include travel trailers with tfltruck (not just cargo and horse trailers) as they tow fairly different.
I've been looking for this for my class A! I need this performed on my rig.
I started to liking your videos with that last big rig one and all that. Right on guys 👍
Good oil, high flow air filter, archoil in fuel and oil and proper tire pressure is what you should do without modifications.
Great vid fellas👍who needs car n caravan when got boosted RV! Smoking
TFL I would love for you take one truck i.e. F150 and tow 3 different types of travel trailers all about the same weight and size but of the different styles a teardrop, a rounded nose, and a square nose and find out what, if any fuel saving these designs effect the truck's gas mileage. Thanks for your great work
1996 Chevy 7.4L Fleetwood Flair, w/ 4.56:1 gears 0-60 stock 29.49 seconds. Banks Power Pack install, 0-60 22.58 seconds.
Do it! TFL RV would be great!
This video was Super exciting for me, thank you.
This was great! Can you please do the same thing with the F53 with a 7.3 when one becomes available? Love to see if the Godzilla really would be worth the wait over the tried and true 6.8!
I have a class C with the Trident V10 so I found this video very interesting. But, why don't you include what the Tuner cost?
Class A motorhomes are going to be beating 18-wheelers up the ike now
What a great video! Thanks guys. I'll be buying the 5 Star tuner for my Class C Forest River with the V10.
What would be the MPG on your 98 miles loop ? i am adding my vote to TFL RV channel... or at least an Ike gaunlet test drive of the Class A, B and Cs.
this was an awesome but random video, something that has been missing since the beginning TFL video's and has been slowly coming back during the past year or so. still love the channel, keep up with out there things like this. i would have to mention that the fuel mileage in something like this isint far off of the so called "eco" mpg's. i believe a 3.3ish towing and the brick is getting in the 4's, though up and down, dont see much "eco" in those new motors.
What is the cost of the tune? With a.3 mpg improvement how many miles would it take to pay for it? 🤔
Thanks for the very interesting review. I have virtually the same motorhome and this is really good.
Awesome, more RV testing please.
Do you plan on doing a test run with the new 7.3 engine in the F53 chassis that will be showing up on the dealer lots soon if not already. Word is Ford engineers finally got off the pot and redesigned some things on the chassis and a bigger engine, it only took about 24 years!! Well lets hope it works out for them. I like my 6.8 and plan to put a tune in it sometime in the future.
I love it! New Channel, Fast Lane RV. Let see it.
I'd love to know if over a long trip if there is a tangible increase in MPG, I'm getting it simply for the better acceleration down low, 100 lbft improvement at 2100 rpm is significant, thanks for the video on this guys, bring us more like perhaps with a CAI even though I don't see that improving things much.
Wasn't expecting to see something like this. Nice. How about doing some mods and add some boost
This rv is still faster in the 1/4 mile then my 90 stock camaro tbi 5.0
In case anyone is wondering what a stock one is like. My v10 class c E450 32ft gets about 6.5 mpg with my lead foot. No more than 7 anytime. It’s loud because it’s right next to you. They rev high a lot. On a flat highway it’ll do 75-80 but you should probably keep it lower than 70. Have done the same mountain as I’m in CO. When to the floor your going about 45 max. Then some ass in a piece of crap will get in front of you and you loose all momentum and you can’t pass because you can’t! I do like the Torqshift transmission though, especially on downhill. In tow/haul it senses that your going down and will downshift automatically to keep your speed down.
I’m sure the 7.3 gas will be a little better for power but not much.
my 6.7 Cummins turbodiesel diesel pusher gets 12 mpg and 8 mpg uphill and can comfortably cruise 70 mph on the highway
That stock run is nearly as bad as my school bus with a Cummins 6.7 turbo diesel, 0-60
Curious how the tune would take advantage of a Banks full header back exhaust including high flow cat and some type of fully enclosed CAI. Sound difference as well? There are a lot of V10's in the world that sound awesome at full song.
Awesome video. I have a v10 and worried about what was needed.
You probably have a cramp in your right calf holding that tank on the carpet so long!!!! But what a great video. Nobody does these videos ever.
This is the way that you should do all of the Ike gauntlet mpg measurements. Relying on the dash “lie-o-meter” for mpg does not give an accurate pic. Also , ideally a dyno test should be done to make sure that the OEMs aren’t giving “tuned” trucks for the test (btw I really suspect that the Silverado 2.7L turbo was an OEM tuned truck .... especially with the low mpgs)
This makes you wonder why the engine doesn’t come from the factory with this state of tune. Could reliability/longevity be affected?
the new v10 has no knock sensor
They probably leaned out the fuel at highway cruising rpms which would cause more heat and wear in the cylinders and made the transmission gear changes more aggressive adding more reliability concerns. That being said they are just concerns, it could be so minuscule that it never matters or the opposite. No one for sure knows until its too late.
ECU isnt programmed for power but for emissions
I have 5 star tune on my vehicle and love it. It has made my truck more reliable, better performing, improved mileage, and much more comfortable to drive. I would never hesitate to recommend 5 star for anything.
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Does it shift better in the lower gears? My f53 doesn't shift well till I get to 3rd gear.
Fantastic! Love your variety, testing the Ford F53. As a Class A DP owner myself, I'd love to see a test on the Freightliner XCS with the Cummins ISB.
Should have added another 3000lbs for water/gear/people when you're loaded up.
I love how you too stood for a minute when you got out of the RV lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
TFL
Can you do a review of a new F250 Lariat 6.2 gas 3.73 gear vs same truck with 4.30 gear?
In the market wanting your advice.
Wow, wouldn't have thought a gas 38' would weight over 23k, that's pretty heavy for gas motor. They certainly would benefit from a comparable diesel w/Allison transmission. Would be nice to do a comparison on a diesel rig. Love the review as I have an older 95 Diesel pusher 39' rig that probably wouldn't be any faster, but sure pulls easier on hills at half the RPM.
Awesome video!!! I wonder if 5Star has a 93 Octane Tune?
Yeah. Tuning rvs can be really helpful. There’s also a few companies out there, more notably one called Ujoint Offroad, that does 4x4 conversions on class Cs. Would be cool to see some in action on your TFLoffroad channel! As far as these v10s go, there’s a word of note! I’m going to be vague due to lack of certain numbers, but here goes: the older v10s were a 2 valve. The newer ones are a 3 valve, with like, 50 more hp??? The class Cs “never” got the 3 valve? And other than the 31ft class Cs, the 29s and under have a 4 speed, not a 5 speed (ugh. Fml). I plan on looking into the Banks Power kit for my 29ft v10. I wonder how it’ll compare with new headers and exhaust, as well as a tune? Would be great for you guys to look into some of this!
Class C E series only came with 2v engines 4.6 ,5.4 and 6.8. After 2014 the passenger and cargo vans E series were dropped. The E series cut away chassis is still available with the 6.2 and 7.3 .
Diesels were dropped before 2010
in the E series.
Roman really set us up like something was going to happen... and then nothing happened lol. I used to have a motor home and the gas pump would max out at 80-100 dollars before the tank would fill up!!
Well this nailed it for me. When I get an RV, it will be a converted city bus
Manufacturers power ratings are at the crank not rear wheels but holy crap that's a huge difference in stock form between advertised and real world dyno.
That’s wild, chevy head lights and tail lights with a Ford powertrain
I think a more moderate road trip would really go a long way. No pun intended. This test was somewhat extreme for showing the tune improvements. Let's try a 30 mile loop over moderate interstate or highway!
It’s has 2007-2013 Chevy Silverado headlights and taillights. When ever I see RVs a lot of them have headlights and tail lights form cars, is it cheaper to use lights form other cars instead of making their own?
Banks makes a performance kit with headers, larger exhaust and intake. Install that and go faster still.
Y'all should test a diesel rv next , that'd be a good comparison for folks interested in rvs. A stock vs tune diesel rv would be cool too
Please test one with the GM 8.1 liter!
Great video guys. Would love to see class C RVs made on Ford Transit and Mercedes chassis tested.
You have to turn the current vehicle back to stock to use the SCT on another vehicle. Also, for warranty. The dealer want's it stock.
I would like to see a tune-up video on a diesel pusher preferably Cummins, I would like to see how much MPG can someone get out of a 40-footer lol.
Drove an e350 motor home with the v10 from Texas to Alabama loaded down. Dang good engine but thirsty all the time no matter what unless it’s off 😂
Interesting and unique tuning video! Can they uncork 50-60 more horsepower and torque from a '14 Chevy Silverado 5.3L?
then you have to switch parts like camshaft , tune the software
Great video. Answered every question.
Very interesting and entertaining video!
Definitely not a game changer for me. I drive a 36' MH with the V10 5 speed tranny and don't have an issue going up and down the mountains I have come across. Also, seems 50mph is pretty fast to go down the steep side. What are the truckers doing? All the steep grades I ever been on, usually it's 35mph going down which the torque-shift 5 speed tranny has had no issues doing. I think you were going at an unsafe speed downhill, IMHO. I climb a 6 plus mile 7% grade doing 40-50mph with my stock V10 towing about 4300lbs behind me fully loaded with a week supplies.
Very interesting, could you do this same test flat towing a jeep? That would be real interesting as many of us travel this way.
Great Video
Wish you guys could do a 30ft travel trail which a lot of family travel with
Thanks