@@bradpitt839 - I am 100% sure they were being sarcastic. It’s what people who blame the victim say. What they’re wearing was at fault, or where they went etc. Anything so the predator can unload some if not all the responsibility. It’s sickening.
whenever law enforcement sets up one of these stings, the pedos come out of the woodwork every time. it's crazy how someone could fall for one of these after all the press and serious consequences, but here we are, it never fails.
Yeah I watch the PPV channels with 'Gordon Flowers',.his real name is Alex but he has decoys that talk to men and women and he and his buddies go around the US and catch these guys. A lot of ppl on here probably have seen his channels. He's really nice to them, to get them comfortable, and then when the cops come, he tells them everything that he has evidence on. The chats etc.
it’s not the resolution of the camera. It’s about storage. If it’s in a lower resolution but still viewable as the subject that’s being questioned, then they aren’t gonna pay for HD storage which is ruinously expensive. Keep in mind that they interview people all the time so storage is an issue if it was in HD.
the way this creep says 'because i get afraid with 18 year old kids' after being questioned about why he asked about law enforcement. like my guy, if you have to say 18 year old KIDS (even if they're legally adults) i see a red flag right there
@@tjewett1967seems like the joke went over your head. Let me break it down as I know jokes can be hard to follow. Basically war in Iraq took place around 20 years ago ish. America (located in the west I can help you with this too if you need) deployed troops there. The comment was referring to the man being over than a teenager age which relates to the video and is a criticism ( judgemental comment ) that the actor is clearly above teen age. If I'm going too fast let me know il go slower.
He pretty much confessed when he said he would go to therapy. The cop didn’t point it out but the next logical inquiry should have been, “And why do you think you need therapy if you thought you were talking to a consenting adult?”
True but I think the cop may have been saving that for when he mentioned that conversation they had in the car about "trying to talk to the kid to tell him he shouldn't be doing this" That damn tired excuse
This sad sap clearly thought he could lie his way out of it.😂. He was best off not saying another word once he was caught red handed. Should have invoked his 5th and asked for his lawyer as soon as the interrogation began. His goose was already cooked and he was too dumb to realize it. So glad this was a successful sting and not a real 13 yr. old that this awful man would have harmed.
Imagine being able to become a millionaire through hard work and smarts and not even be smart enough to get a lawyer even if it’s a public attorney and even go as far as diddling little kids.
Now, I’m not on the side of this sick man but it’s just stupid whoever you are and whatever you did not to try to get an attorney. Just because you ask for an attorney doesn’t mean you’re guilty, unless you’re this guy because it’s obvious he’s guilty.
Not that it really matters because he is guilty AF, but for a dude who claims his eyes were injured enough that he could not distinguish a three from an eight. He was able to read his Miranda rights.
His life, even after prison, has a lot of limitations. Thank God. His career as an accountant is over. He won't pass a background check. He can't even get a job as a Fuel Station clerk because they conduct background checks. He is too much of a liability for companies to hire. Why give him a job when good individuals are struggling to find a job? The detective is someone I look up to. He's respectful but he's letting him know he can see through the BS.
Sorry to say but pedophiles work everywhere, anytime my kids use store bathrooms I go in with them. I have personally caught an older man in the women's bathroom
Not a single typo in his messages, but all of the sudden he comes up with some sh-tty excuse like " was missing my glasses"...18 😂 omg. Next level humiliation!
What😂 it's comedy. People aren't that sensitive, damn. 13 year old kid, he'd go to prison for life if he committed murder. Totally liable for his actions.
@@MikeRotch-ur7sx Oh noooees 😢! But I think yt allows the word pedophile. Besides, that old reservist he was visiting was supposed to be 13, that's not pedophilia, mate 🤔.
The kid said “swear you wont report me”, and the guy goes of course not. Then kid says 13. If he was 18, he wouldnt be asking to not get reported, as that age is not allowed on grindr. So based on that alone the guys lie about not reading it right is wrong
*Will wonders never cease?!? It's amazing that he found the correct address, with his scratched eye. I mean, with his problem seeing numbers correctly, and so he is claiming... Smh.* 🙄
I love how a lot of JCS inspired content is picking up and analyzing TCAP. During the pandemic, I watched all the TCAP I could, idk why, it became a pandemic past time.
See, what had happened was...My eyeball was scratched & coffee splashed on my glasses downstairs & it made the "3" look like an "8" & a "7" looked like a "12"...Bottom line is...I thought it said he was 132 years old.
These pedo men (sometimes women) are so creepy. What a horrid experience for a young person to go through. They'd need a life time of counselling. I don't envy LE doing this job what they see & hear would never leave them
Sadly it’s a double standard though. Yes they are sick but when a woman or school teachers we hear a lot about end up doing basically no jail time when you compare it to a man. Even these woman teachers that have sex with their students, not just meeting someone, granted underage, regardless they still don’t get jail time , especially if she is attractive. All men regardless really get the book thrown at them. Personally woman should deal with the same ramifications as a man !,
@@paulgrimm6317for one thats not true. When a woman gets caught doing it she is vilified and goes to prison. Second, its not the same thing at all. You have to pretend its the same thing if thats what you wanna do. Its still vile. Its still criminal. But an adult woman propositioning a 13 year old boy for sex is not the same thing as a grown man propositioning a 13 year old boy or girl. Men and women are equal, but they are certainly not the same.
@@herogibsonlol you just proved their point.. it is absolutely the same wtf are you even talking about? It’s a grown adult abusing and underage individual regardless of sex.
It’s against Grindr’s terms of service for any user to be less than eighteen. Don’t get me wrong: I obviously support protecting children at any cost and severely punishing victimizers. But if you meet a person on a casino floor, in a bar, on an app or some other place where they have agreed that they are eighteen . . . what is considered legal due diligence? Why would you believe what the person messages about their age is true but what they claimed to be in an adult-only space is false?
I had the same thought Tay. I'm from a country based in English law (like US and Canadian law are) except entrapment is illegal here. I've seen Canadian show Bait Car and Chris Hansen on TH-cam and I never had anything against the Chris Hansen show, and supported the premise of it, but I didn't know they ever used 18+ services to chat to these people. That makes me feel a bit uneasy, authorities overstepping a bit. Even if he was criminally intentioned, he would have a strong legal case here, could argue that he believed they were role-playing. Germany goes further than we do, ANY form of entrapment there is forbidden. Our authorities are legally allowed to pretend to be underage to try and buy tobacco or alcohol in a shop, but the Germans even have to tread carefully around that.
I mean, someone could easily lie about their age to sign up by pretending to be 18. I'm sure there are other people under 18 on the app, maybe just by a year or two, or maybe by many years. The thing is if someone tells you their 13, a normal adult would end that conversation immediately. Any adult that continues to engage with the minor after that point (especially on a dating app) is seriously sick.
There's a big difference between agreeing to terms of service and being ID'd at a casino/bar. It's much easier to lie about your age/personal info on dating apps. Why do you think underage people are ACTUALLY taken advantage of over these apps? Let's use our heads a little. There's also no reason a 40, 50, or 60 year old dude needs to be looking for sex even from an 18 year old. It's still sick, in my opinion.
What he did was inappropriate, but I don't think he should be charged for a felony. All he did was talk to the fictitious kid. If there's no physical contact, it's not assault.
But what would have happened if a 13 year old boy was there? Sorry but I disagree. He is obviously a pedo and has probably don’t this before and would still be doing it if he hadn’t been caught.
How hard is it to get an account on Grindr? Doesn't seem that difficult. Kids should definitely not be allowed but the app needs to be more strict and secure.
@@SweetTooth8989 meeee, my mommy and my daddy lol and the extremely ominous "Where are your parents?" "they went away..." predator probably thought the decoy was a serial killer lol
I mean, I met my partner of five years on grindr, but we were both looking for anything but a hookup. The fact that grindr allows a profile that claims to be 13 to exist on their platform is one really good reason to never use it, though.
Whenever I see storied like this and they're old, I always think back to how old I would have been st the time. In 2015 I was 15 years old :/ not a boy, but still a minor that could have easily been taken advantage of. I'm very grateful for people like chris hansan and even yourubers like omma and ccunit. even if it's just for internet fame and the fact people like watching creeps get caught. they do go through the trouble of involving police to ensure that this creep doesn't have the chance to hurt an actual minor.
He got sentenced to 8 years in prison. The judge suspended 6 of those years. So he ended up getting less than 2 years.......smh im sure the judge ate cheese pizza for lunch every day too.
If it's illegal to talk to a 13 year old about sexual things the WHY are the people on the school boards & staff not being prosecuted for being sexual predators for the books they allow in the school libraries ? Quite the double standard, don't you think !!!🤔
Because school boards are mandating educators talk to student to proposition children for sexual acts and discuss ass-to-mouth with them? Because they are charged and prosecuted for that regularly. If your argument is that the education system at the lowest level has a problem of child preparatory behavior from individuals I would totally agree. Simply because a rate of 0% of educators being child predators in any way is the only acceptable amount. Unfortunately any institution that involves adults in positions of power working directly with minors inherently attracts predators who are taking advantage of that environment. Look at church's with youth programs, boy scouts, and more. Proper sex education has proven to improve victim's ability to recognize and report predatory and worse behaviors. Not just from adults, but their own peers. It reduces STI rates, teen pregnancies (and subsequently abortions, child poverty and absent fathers, and drop out rates). And removing education about subjects that might make you or other parents uncomfortable wouldn't stop any minor from hoping on the internet and learning all about sex in the least healthy and often times harmful ways to growing brains like pornography. Neglecting healthy sexual and biological education causes minors to either be woefully underprepared for understanding their own health, safety, and future intimacy and/or pushing them off onto the internet which promotes a pipeline of ever more pornoghaphic and explicit content.
Unfortunately, technically, there is no victim. There is no 13 year old boy involved, and if this guy had a brain, he would not of said anything without an attorney. Many of these cases did not end up in convictions because there is no victim. This guy received two years in prison because he admitted to something that he technically didn't do.
That’s not true at all. While the court does take into consideration that it was a decoy it doesn’t keep them from all the consequences. As someone who has been a victim of creeps like this what is important is that after this they have to register as a SO. While it won’t keep all from reoffending, some will hopefully get the help they need so there next potential victim won’t need to. Not to mention the potential victim the decoy would have been. These guy are now infamous. If they get caught again their record will cause their sentence to reflect that. There is no defense against what was intended in those conversations. Not one mention of role playing. 12:42 *The word of the day is **_Context🌈🌟_*
This case clearly had a conviction 27:28 Edit: It’s actually harder to prove these cases when there is a victim. Victims don’t usually keep meticulous records of evidence like these cases do. They don’t usually have a camera crew, Chris Hanson, and police laying in wait when they show up to physically abuse them. *🌈🌟Context.*
Interesting how you edited your comment. The original said non of them had convictions. He was convicted because of the chat log. He tried to deny it the whole time. Edit: Can you please point out when he admitted it during his interrogation?
Is grindr an app for over 18s? If so, then setting up a sting account on an app where one might look for over 18s is technically entrapment. You could be getting someone to do something they wouldn't have done. If a bank left a trolly with a million dollars on it outside the bank, most people would take it even if they weren't normally inclined to do so.
anyone who signs up for Grindr knows that there is no age verification on it beyond the saying "no minors". bars across the entire world have signs like that on the door but bartenders are still expected to check an ID because it is possible to lie.
@@johnbobbypringlethe original comment did, as they suggested that people would want to have sex with a child in the same way that they want to receive money
Why don’t these people ever say in the text "I’m just coming over to meet you and hang out, I’m not coming for sex"? I mean, such a simple way to protect yourself from this sort of thing. Not that I want to give them ideas and im sure someone has done it. I don’t know what they’d do. Actually they’d just arrest him anyway and say "yes he made it abundantly clear that he wasn’t coming for any sex and just to meet and hang out… but 13, cummmmon!" Guilty. To modern juries (12 cowards), it’s better that 1000 innocent people get wronged imprisoned for life than for one guilty person to go free. After all, the innocent people aren’t a threat to anyone. It’s cute how they instantly change their minds about that when they are charged with a crime.
12 cowards? Have you ever been on a jury? Do you know how many jurors are serving every day? *_Your comment is silly and is just excusing disgusting behavior while simultaneously insulting people serving on juries to actually try to bring some justice to these cases ⚖️_*
Jesus christ. To look at a 13yr old in that way just blows my mind. I will never have any sympathy for what happens to predators.
Same! 🙌🏻 They are vile.
but look at what that 13y was wearing🤡
@@deenman23what?
@@bradpitt839 - I am 100% sure they were being sarcastic. It’s what people who blame the victim say. What they’re wearing was at fault, or where they went etc. Anything so the predator can unload some if not all the responsibility. It’s sickening.
@@bradpitt839yeah the preds usually play the victim. Some investigators really play this up and ask how the kid/actual victim "seduced" them.
whenever law enforcement sets up one of these stings, the pedos come out of the woodwork every time. it's crazy how someone could fall for one of these after all the press and serious consequences, but here we are, it never fails.
I firmly believe we will be able to do this type of thing until the end of time
Yeah I watch the PPV channels with 'Gordon Flowers',.his real name is Alex but he has decoys that talk to men and women and he and his buddies go around the US and catch these guys. A lot of ppl on here probably have seen his channels.
He's really nice to them, to get them comfortable, and then when the cops come, he tells them everything that he has evidence on. The chats etc.
@@kristinenoffsinger5138yea I’ve seen him numerous times, I also watch Skeet Hansen, and Protect The Innocent
@@kristinenoffsinger5138I had a craving for some fried pickles after reading this reply.
These people are so sick, I think even when they suspect it to be a sting they still go ahead and risk it anyway
Why is dirt beamed from Mars in HD, but these police inrrogations look like they're filmed through wax paper?
😂😂😂
it’s not the resolution of the camera. It’s about storage. If it’s in a lower resolution but still viewable as the subject that’s being questioned, then they aren’t gonna pay for HD storage which is ruinously expensive. Keep in mind that they interview people all the time so storage is an issue if it was in HD.
Coz this dirt is not worth the Pixel
because we never really go to mars lol
If Hansen ran a show catching just normal married people being setup for cheating, he could run daily episodes the next hundred years.
You know it’s already a show ➖ Chris Hanson.
It could run as long as humans run this planet 🌎 🌏 🌍
😅 roflmao...
They did have a TV show about this but it wasnt hosted by Hansen.
@ExorFS I think it was called "Cheaters". We haven't got it in the UK but I've seen it online 😅😂
@@genericamerican7574 You mean as long as humans run the United States...
“Just Meeee, my mommy and my daddy…”
John Frantz is the funniest
😂
13 year old with male pattern balding.
@OttoByOgraffey
He's cute tho.. built good.
*the 45 year old decoy replied calmly*
Makes perfect sense he's not a pedo he just left his glasses upstairs
yeh seems legit🙄
He's as good guy. He just got caught up in some Internet bullshit 😂
I hate to say it but as a dude with not great eyesight, 13 and 18 might easily look the same. Like I said I hate to say it, but it is possible.
I accidentally robbed a credit union because I forgot my glasses. Man what a silly mix up that was 😮
True but there is conversation that he clearly knows it says 13.@@nevyn_karres
the way this creep says 'because i get afraid with 18 year old kids' after being questioned about why he asked about law enforcement. like my guy, if you have to say 18 year old KIDS (even if they're legally adults) i see a red flag right there
An 18 year old is basically a kid.
Yeah its not like something magic happens at 18. If anything adulthood ahouldnt start till 25.
@@jhoughjr1I wish people treated me like I was still a "kid" when I was 19. 🙄
@@johnposton4208 you can legally fight in a war and die in some random country at 18. 18 is definitely an adult.
I can’t get over how this 13 year old looks like he just got back from his 2nd Iraq deployment.
😂😂
Now you want him too?
@@tjewett1967seems like the joke went over your head. Let me break it down as I know jokes can be hard to follow. Basically war in Iraq took place around 20 years ago ish. America (located in the west I can help you with this too if you need) deployed troops there. The comment was referring to the man being over than a teenager age which relates to the video and is a criticism ( judgemental comment ) that the actor is clearly above teen age. If I'm going too fast let me know il go slower.
Lmao 😂
@@Superfoodcookielol. You felt compelled to write all that for a guy who uses Velcro to tie his shoe? I commend your effort ❤
The receding hair line on that 13 yr old is wild.
Just me my mommy and my daddy
White men liking black porn is hilarious.
LOL Its a cover! Pedo might be on something
His dad made that table btw
You guys are killing me over here
He pretty much confessed when he said he would go to therapy. The cop didn’t point it out but the next logical inquiry should have been, “And why do you think you need therapy if you thought you were talking to a consenting adult?”
I find it amazing that a millionaire would use "I wasn't wearing my glasses" as a defense against child rape.
True but I think the cop may have been saving that for when he mentioned that conversation they had in the car about "trying to talk to the kid to tell him he shouldn't be doing this"
That damn tired excuse
You must be poor.
Shut up. @@dankz7061
@@dankz7061who hurt you? Its gonna be okay.
Kaboom
If I'm ever read my Miranda's I don't care if I was singing in the choir at church when whatever happened I'm calling the lawyer lol
Exactly
Amen!😁
This sad sap clearly thought he could lie his way out of it.😂. He was best off not saying another word once he was caught red handed. Should have invoked his 5th and asked for his lawyer as soon as the interrogation began. His goose was already cooked and he was too dumb to realize it. So glad this was a successful sting and not a real 13 yr. old that this awful man would have harmed.
Imagine being able to become a millionaire through hard work and smarts and not even be smart enough to get a lawyer even if it’s a public attorney and even go as far as diddling little kids.
Now, I’m not on the side of this sick man but it’s just stupid whoever you are and whatever you did not to try to get an attorney. Just because you ask for an attorney doesn’t mean you’re guilty, unless you’re this guy because it’s obvious he’s guilty.
Because he's not a millionaire it's clickbait this channel pulls out of their ass
@@wadewillson9220he’s pretty wealthy if i remember correctly, he could be a real-estate guy but i could be thinking of some one else
Think Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton
@@wadewillson9220you sound dumb people can inherit millions. You don't always have to be smart/hard working to be a millionaire
The 23 year olds that do this are disgusting but when a guy that could easily be the grandpa does it that’s next level depravity
Right, so the age of the perp makes it better or worse. It's disgusting no matter what, even if a 15 year old did it it's still sick.
Why certain age's just follow the law guidelines
Because their brain is defective. It should be that easy but you're attracted to who you're attracted to. @@Darren-f9z
Nah it's the same level of depravity.
They’re all disgusting
The second hand embarrassment is strong in this one 😂
He's an accountant. I hope he's not routinely mixing up 3s and 8s.
Not that it really matters because he is guilty AF, but for a dude who claims his eyes were injured enough that he could not distinguish a three from an eight. He was able to read his Miranda rights.
That's a great point lool. I guess he has Selective Blindness.
Not only that when the interrogator was showing him the evidence you see he lifts his glasses up a bit to get a closer look
I noticed that, too.
He read every part of the conversation with no issues except the age
His life, even after prison, has a lot of limitations. Thank God. His career as an accountant is over. He won't pass a background check. He can't even get a job as a Fuel Station clerk because they conduct background checks. He is too much of a liability for companies to hire. Why give him a job when good individuals are struggling to find a job?
The detective is someone I look up to. He's respectful but he's letting him know he can see through the BS.
@@GertDekeysers. um nooo.. Pedos do NOT deserve 2nd chances. #SaveTheChildren
his second chance should be filled with lead @@GertDekeysers
I believe he has a second chance to get a job where there is no children…. And have half his wage go to victems
Sorry to say but pedophiles work everywhere, anytime my kids use store bathrooms I go in with them. I have personally caught an older man in the women's bathroom
@@layzface7775 Then the other half of his wages will go towards his gay porn collection 😂
Not a single typo in his messages, but all of the sudden he comes up with some sh-tty excuse like " was missing my glasses"...18 😂 omg. Next level humiliation!
I feel bad for the cop having to read that gut wrenching chat
What😂 it's comedy. People aren't that sensitive, damn. 13 year old kid, he'd go to prison for life if he committed murder. Totally liable for his actions.
@@Gonken88 Found the Peter File
@@MikeRotch-ur7sx Oh noooees 😢! But I think yt allows the word pedophile. Besides, that old reservist he was visiting was supposed to be 13, that's not pedophilia, mate 🤔.
@@Gonken88 Where tf do you live that age 13 isn't pedophilia?
Bait used to be believable @@Gonken88
The kid said “swear you wont report me”, and the guy goes of course not. Then kid says 13. If he was 18, he wouldnt be asking to not get reported, as that age is not allowed on grindr. So based on that alone the guys lie about not reading it right is wrong
You think we don't know?
That age is allowed on Grinder? Omg. That’s part of the problem right? Sick
I saw that episode a while ago and the investigator is right that the guy playing the 13 year old didnt look 18, he looked more like 25 lol
Lol that's exactly what I thought! Must be tough to find younger-looking adults nowadays!
Exactly, couldn’t tell who was the pedo and who was the 13 year old.
*Will wonders never cease?!? It's amazing that he found the correct address, with his scratched eye. I mean, with his problem seeing numbers correctly, and so he is claiming... Smh.* 🙄
"Me, my mommy, and daddy made that table."
This is a TCAP moment of worst decoy ever.
I love how a lot of JCS inspired content is picking up and analyzing TCAP. During the pandemic, I watched all the TCAP I could, idk why, it became a pandemic past time.
A perfect way to social distance 😷
Skeeter is better at TCAP. Insults and shames them one way or another
THANK YOU for not over censoring. I can understand a little bit of it, but a lot of these channels take it way too far.
TH-cam is the one taking it too far
My father was like this. He was always a creep to my friends at sleepovers. He runs an extremely successful company. Men like this are everywhere.
Most crime is committed by business owners.
Organized crimw that is.
I’m sorry to hear that. Hopefully, you didn’t know about it until you were old enough to process it.
They run the world the elite
See, what had happened was...My eyeball was scratched & coffee splashed on my glasses downstairs & it made the "3" look like an "8" & a "7" looked like a "12"...Bottom line is...I thought it said he was 132 years old.
These pedo men (sometimes women) are so creepy. What a horrid experience for a young person to go through. They'd need a life time of counselling. I don't envy LE doing this job what they see & hear would never leave them
Sadly it’s a double standard though. Yes they are sick but when a woman or school teachers we hear a lot about end up doing basically no jail time when you compare it to a man. Even these woman teachers that have sex with their students, not just meeting someone, granted underage, regardless they still don’t get jail time , especially if she is attractive. All men regardless really get the book thrown at them. Personally woman should deal with the same ramifications as a man !,
@@paulgrimm6317 I totally agree
@@paulgrimm6317for one thats not true. When a woman gets caught doing it she is vilified and goes to prison. Second, its not the same thing at all. You have to pretend its the same thing if thats what you wanna do. Its still vile. Its still criminal. But an adult woman propositioning a 13 year old boy for sex is not the same thing as a grown man propositioning a 13 year old boy or girl. Men and women are equal, but they are certainly not the same.
@@herogibsonlol you just proved their point.. it is absolutely the same wtf are you even talking about? It’s a grown adult abusing and underage individual regardless of sex.
Counseling will not help them according to another video by a psychiatrist. There’s no cure for them.
The ones who don’t admit guilt when they are clearly guilty are the worst cases of all. Absolute monsters and predators.
I'm glad they don't cause they can get harsher sentencing
I commend the investigator for how he handled this.
13 going on 45 lol
How do people get this deep into an interrogation without an attorney?
MJ voice: Because they're ignorant.
I think he really thought he was smarter than the police.
Kudos to the investigator, his interrogation tactics were like a well-choreographed dance.
Yeah just a bunch of the usual bullshit "I wanna help you but you have to explain what happened" 😂
Even if he thought the boy was 18, he is 60, and although that would have been legal (I guess), it's still disgusting.
But he thought he was 13 NOT a legal adult! He gets ABSOLUTELY NO Excuses or an ESCAPE OF CHARGES!!
I blame viagra . These old dudes are getting boners and think they’re sexy.
Disgusting is not illegal
@@bojohannesen4352 nope, disgusting isn’t illegal, but it’s still peculiar. Unrealistic.
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland that is all subjective, except illegal.
Only 2yrs. in Prison? What A Joke... 🤦♂️
It’s a joke with no punchline justice system needs to do better
@@ianfortuna9385(Cause of the only 2yrs.) Most likely he'll do it again... 😤
@@tonydavila6594 no most likely about it he will do it again.
when they find out why he was sent to prison that 2 years won't make a difference, it will feel more like twenty years!
@@JimschrbrYeah, but he'll be in protective custody so he'll do that time like nothing, they should had given him at least 15yrs. in Prison...
bro the editing on this is immaculate
Hearing a 60 year old say “I thought he was 18” is the opposite of relieving
He might as well have claimed that the dog chewed his phone and that that was why he didn’t know he was meeting a 13yr old!
SMH!!
The dog took my glasses upstairs 😅
where did they get the 13th rear old? he don't look a day over 401!
Grindr just casually allowing profiles that claim to be underage is one reason I don't use grindr.
Do they actually allow it or do people lie about their age to put up a profile?
"Im a good guy, i support the police and fire, I am not what it looks like. " Isn't that a wolf in sheep's clothing?
He spent 5yrs in prison, Fast Foward 15yrs, he is an insurance broker making $250,000 a year
Dude should've gotten a harsher sentence. 2 years later and he'll be right back to his tricks
😡 Some day a father of a child is going to get ahold of him and he will be no more 😡
We need to catch the other millionaires out there perverting the internet
ALL of their money needs to be confiscated from them and will go to the surviving child victims for help and provision.
“Are you a Cop?” Unreal
It’s against Grindr’s terms of service for any user to be less than eighteen. Don’t get me wrong: I obviously support protecting children at any cost and severely punishing victimizers. But if you meet a person on a casino floor, in a bar, on an app or some other place where they have agreed that they are eighteen . . . what is considered legal due diligence? Why would you believe what the person messages about their age is true but what they claimed to be in an adult-only space is false?
I had the same thought Tay. I'm from a country based in English law (like US and Canadian law are) except entrapment is illegal here. I've seen Canadian show Bait Car and Chris Hansen on TH-cam and I never had anything against the Chris Hansen show, and supported the premise of it, but I didn't know they ever used 18+ services to chat to these people.
That makes me feel a bit uneasy, authorities overstepping a bit. Even if he was criminally intentioned, he would have a strong legal case here, could argue that he believed they were role-playing.
Germany goes further than we do, ANY form of entrapment there is forbidden. Our authorities are legally allowed to pretend to be underage to try and buy tobacco or alcohol in a shop, but the Germans even have to tread carefully around that.
Well yeah no one ids people that's just wierd when your on a date but clearly the chat showed they were 13 doesn't matter how you feel about it.
I mean, someone could easily lie about their age to sign up by pretending to be 18.
I'm sure there are other people under 18 on the app, maybe just by a year or two, or maybe by many years.
The thing is if someone tells you their 13, a normal adult would end that conversation immediately. Any adult that continues to engage with the minor after that point (especially on a dating app) is seriously sick.
There's a big difference between agreeing to terms of service and being ID'd at a casino/bar. It's much easier to lie about your age/personal info on dating apps. Why do you think underage people are ACTUALLY taken advantage of over these apps? Let's use our heads a little. There's also no reason a 40, 50, or 60 year old dude needs to be looking for sex even from an 18 year old. It's still sick, in my opinion.
No he was obviously seeking out younger people…why would a 56 year old be going after a 18 year old? Let’s be serious
Therapy can't fix this.
TWO YEARS??? What a JOKE!!! Special treatment or what?
He's not worried, he knows he can buy his way out with the judges and prosecutors. This is not his first rodeo, I'll bet you a million!
What he did was inappropriate, but I don't think he should be charged for a felony. All he did was talk to the fictitious kid. If there's no physical contact, it's not assault.
But what would have happened if a 13 year old boy was there? Sorry but I disagree. He is obviously a pedo and has probably don’t this before and would still be doing it if he hadn’t been caught.
Love Chris Handsome and 'To catch a Predator'!
I came here looking for booty
Chris *Handsome* is indeed a good guy....
see i called you Chris Handsome, ill watch your tv shows all the time.
It's Chris Hansen
@@nrsjuggalo maybe they find him handsome lol
That's one really bad accountant if he's confusing numbers like that!!😂
How hard is it to get an account on Grindr? Doesn't seem that difficult. Kids should definitely not be allowed but the app needs to be more strict and secure.
There has been a bunch of legit underage Boys caught using it and them being caught
Yeah thats pretty sus. If you have to tell that to the authors of a dating app, thats a problem. It should go without saying.
Love seeing him being publicly embarrassed and having his own disgusting messages read back at him while he tries to defend himself lmao
Ahh yes, the episode with the 25 yr old "13 yr old" 😂
You mean 35 lol
@@thomasdaniels6824 yeah haha. He definitely looks like it 😂
@@SweetTooth8989 meeee, my mommy and my daddy lol and the extremely ominous "Where are your parents?" "they went away..." predator probably thought the decoy was a serial killer lol
@@kannabi haha 🤣 yes that was the funniest part 😄
@@SweetTooth8989 🤣😂
can we talk about how that decoy has two ex wives and three child support payments?
'Are you law enforcement'
Damn yeah you got us, we almost had you!
Ah yes. The 30 year old "13" year old. They really dropped the ball with the decoy on this one 😂
they get off on it. the catfishers are practically pedos themselves.
That 13 year old look he just got back from his 3rd tour in Iraq.
Asking if they’re law enforcement as if law enforcement would reply ‘shoot you caught me’ 😂
I strongly doubt Hansen ever took that train again
Thank you for calling these people out 🙏
Anyone ever tell you that you have a very similar voice to Chris Hanssen? Love your videos.
The original episode had the best comment section roasting the 45 y/o looking 13 y/o🍿
It's good to know what evil looks like
Manythnx and Happy holidays The Villains 🤘
IT IS 'CHRISTMAS....& WHY THROW-UP THE 'DEVIL-HORNS'....BASICALLY HAILING~SATAN ?????!!!!!
@@markgrender5638 to expose dullards🤘
This predator talks like your typical politician. Absolutely vile!
Shouldn’t he have just said his aim was a meet up with his old friend Chris Hansen ?
I like how the guy interrogating says “ummmm” before the beginning of every sentence 😂
That made you cry with laughter? Uhm.. Ok, I guess
@@bojohannesen4352 what, do you have autism or something? What a really dumb response
Someone get a cape for Chris!
2 years??? That’s bs.
ewwww literally grindr is so disgusting. and i’m gay.
On any spectrum, all these ‘dating’ apps are cesspools of gross.
I mean, I met my partner of five years on grindr, but we were both looking for anything but a hookup. The fact that grindr allows a profile that claims to be 13 to exist on their platform is one really good reason to never use it, though.
Seems popular with most gays. Gayness has never been big on monogamy
That's part of being a man, not just gay men.
Social media & other platforms & mobile devices & people lying about there ages makes this world fucked up place for everyone
To catch a predator follow up wish we had more of these. One thats hilarious is the gjy at mcdonaldw who was caught 2 days straight and wwsnt arrested
That episode was wild
I don't even know what some of those terms he was watching were 😅
Whenever I see storied like this and they're old, I always think back to how old I would have been st the time. In 2015 I was 15 years old :/ not a boy, but still a minor that could have easily been taken advantage of. I'm very grateful for people like chris hansan and even yourubers like omma and ccunit. even if it's just for internet fame and the fact people like watching creeps get caught. they do go through the trouble of involving police to ensure that this creep doesn't have the chance to hurt an actual minor.
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nah but like, finding a 13yo on a dating app and not being immediatly alarmed is a new level lf stupidity
thats the problem with rich people. they think they’re untouchable.
60 meeting a 13 year old?? He was 47 when he was BORN 🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢
thank you for this information i didnt know that
@@PlesherFN go away
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“I’m going to close this door for your privacy” 😵💫😵💫🤣🤣
Happy Holidays everyone. Wishing you all the best.
thats the decoy that once said "me, my mommy, and my daddy" when asked "who lives here" and the guy tried to leave bc he knew the jig was up LMAOOOO
Me my mommy & my daddy.
O Dang
TH-cam videos like this don't come around very often, I'd want it again and again.
They kinda do though. Look up EWU interrogations or JCS . For sting ops, look up skeeter jean , nvcap and there are a lot more
This fellow is probably teaching middle schoolers in public schools while wearing drag these days, how quickly society changes.
Nah, he's prepping for his presidential bid on the conservative docket. We all know how much they welcome and encourage this kind of lifestyle 😂
He’s definitely on the registry for SO so the first reply is more likely but I think he will probably try to replace Congress George Santos.
"I have a reputation to uphold". Well, that statement wins the prize.
*REALIZED*
why?
The 'ole "I know its Chris effing Hansen, but imma try to talk my way out of it anyway" technique.
He got sentenced to 8 years in prison. The judge suspended 6 of those years. So he ended up getting less than 2 years.......smh im sure the judge ate cheese pizza for lunch every day too.
Balding 13 year old... Meme-worthy material right there.
I'd just assume that creepy age play was part of the Grindr experience since the whole platform is based around deviance.
"I'd never meet with a child! that's one of my least favorite things to do!"
If it's illegal to talk to a 13 year old about sexual things the WHY are the people on the school boards & staff not being prosecuted for being sexual predators for the books they allow in the school libraries ? Quite the double standard, don't you think !!!🤔
That is not what the laws say and you know it.
Because school boards are mandating educators talk to student to proposition children for sexual acts and discuss ass-to-mouth with them? Because they are charged and prosecuted for that regularly.
If your argument is that the education system at the lowest level has a problem of child preparatory behavior from individuals I would totally agree. Simply because a rate of 0% of educators being child predators in any way is the only acceptable amount. Unfortunately any institution that involves adults in positions of power working directly with minors inherently attracts predators who are taking advantage of that environment. Look at church's with youth programs, boy scouts, and more.
Proper sex education has proven to improve victim's ability to recognize and report predatory and worse behaviors. Not just from adults, but their own peers. It reduces STI rates, teen pregnancies (and subsequently abortions, child poverty and absent fathers, and drop out rates). And removing education about subjects that might make you or other parents uncomfortable wouldn't stop any minor from hoping on the internet and learning all about sex in the least healthy and often times harmful ways to growing brains like pornography. Neglecting healthy sexual and biological education causes minors to either be woefully underprepared for understanding their own health, safety, and future intimacy and/or pushing them off onto the internet which promotes a pipeline of ever more pornoghaphic and explicit content.
Sounds like James is trying to sell the justification for being a MAP.
Sounds more like he's fed up with the LGBTQ activists trying to push gender theory onto children. Such as the whole "MAP" movement.@@stanleyhape8427
WHAT LMFAO
But he LITERALLY wasn't chatting with a 13 year old. That actually matters
Unfortunately, technically, there is no victim. There is no 13 year old boy involved, and if this guy had a brain, he would not of said anything without an attorney. Many of these cases did not end up in convictions because there is no victim. This guy received two years in prison because he admitted to something that he technically didn't do.
Depends on the laws of the state they are in. In some states even talking to someone you think is underage and engaging in sexual talk is a crime.
That’s not true at all. While the court does take into consideration that it was a decoy it doesn’t keep them from all the consequences.
As someone who has been a victim of creeps like this what is important is that after this they have to register as a SO. While it won’t keep all from reoffending, some will hopefully get the help they need so there next potential victim won’t need to. Not to mention the potential victim the decoy would have been. These guy are now infamous. If they get caught again their record will cause their sentence to reflect that.
There is no defense against what was intended in those conversations. Not one mention of role playing. 12:42
*The word of the day is **_Context🌈🌟_*
This case clearly had a conviction 27:28
Edit: It’s actually harder to prove these cases when there is a victim. Victims don’t usually keep meticulous records of evidence like these cases do. They don’t usually have a camera crew, Chris Hanson, and police laying in wait when they show up to physically abuse them. *🌈🌟Context.*
Interesting how you edited your comment. The original said non of them had convictions. He was convicted because of the chat log. He tried to deny it the whole time.
Edit: Can you please point out when he admitted it during his interrogation?
So he technically never messaged a 13 year old boy is that what you're saying. Check this guys hard drive
Ohhhhhhh ...the damn stratchy eyeball will get u EVERYYYtime!!! 🤦♀️🙄
Is grindr an app for over 18s? If so, then setting up a sting account on an app where one might look for over 18s is technically entrapment. You could be getting someone to do something they wouldn't have done. If a bank left a trolly with a million dollars on it outside the bank, most people would take it even if they weren't normally inclined to do so.
anyone who signs up for Grindr knows that there is no age verification on it beyond the saying "no minors". bars across the entire world have signs like that on the door but bartenders are still expected to check an ID because it is possible to lie.
Well said...there is a disclaimer before you can even start using their app, & by "agreeing" is legally binding..entrapment at its worst 🙄
cool story, but if you see having sex with a child as a "reward" then you are crazy
@@Draconic_Aura who said anything about a reward? I think someone needs to check your harddrive.
@@johnbobbypringlethe original comment did, as they suggested that people would want to have sex with a child in the same way that they want to receive money
How is the thumbnail 8k resolution but the interrogation video is 40p?
Why don’t these people ever say in the text "I’m just coming over to meet you and hang out, I’m not coming for sex"? I mean, such a simple way to protect yourself from this sort of thing. Not that I want to give them ideas and im sure someone has done it. I don’t know what they’d do. Actually they’d just arrest him anyway and say "yes he made it abundantly clear that he wasn’t coming for any sex and just to meet and hang out… but 13, cummmmon!" Guilty. To modern juries (12 cowards), it’s better that 1000 innocent people get wronged imprisoned for life than for one guilty person to go free. After all, the innocent people aren’t a threat to anyone. It’s cute how they instantly change their minds about that when they are charged with a crime.
@ YankeeBushman
That is true,
Reading is not your strongest skill.
Cheers....
12 cowards? Have you ever been on a jury? Do you know how many jurors are serving every day?
*_Your comment is silly and is just excusing disgusting behavior while simultaneously insulting people serving on juries to actually try to bring some justice to these cases ⚖️_*
The kind of person you'd have to be to post something like this makes me worry for the people in your life
@@chrisemerson9748 what did they not read correctly?
@@YankeeBushman yes. It would also have been illegal to have those conversations in person.