Somtaaw super capital ships are immune because they vent drive plasma from the engines directly through infected parts of the ship, damaging the areas in exchange for avoiding total infection. It's possible (and this is a wild guess) that Taiidan ships aren't designed to allow that to happen, meaning they can't easily avoid infection.
They already lost to a bunch of refugees from Kharak in the 1st game. These guys are the remnants of that empire. Probably a significant difference now in terms of what they can bring to bear in terms of resources/manpower/ships.
Definitely made them stronger. Where it's really rough though is it ends up turning most Super Capital and Frigates normal kinetic weapons into much better anti-fighter tools; the energy cannon shots track extremely well, even if they have a shortened range.
They're fun, but they just don't hit hard enough to serve as anti-capital ships. I always feel a little bit underpowered until the Somtaaw get actual destroyers.
Pretty hectic. I must say it's kind of a frustrating mechanic to have your forces be out of the area when you thought you told them to attack or move, also seeing these resource collectors turned into troop transports going away from the KUUN-Lan was both hilarious and also frustrating. Although after they dock, I would honestly save and then try to keep fighting and see how many enemies I can kill and leech. That would be quite fun because the Imperials are so numerous in this mission. With those energy cannons and multi-beam ion frigates plus maybe a heavy tug or two, can really make a difference. The drone frigate feels almost useless now because the Acolytes, ACV's, and Multi-beams do the same job faster because you'd need to build up more drone frigates to make a big difference, except that the drone frigates are notoriously weak against frigates and heavier ships while the multi-beams are actually quite powerful when used properly, plus the Heavy Tugs can take any troublesome ships out of the fight, couple that with the ACV's EMP and Acolytes Missiles and energy cannons and you have quite the amazing force to just pummel anything basically, not to mention you can always build a leech or 2 and make money off of enemy ships, but you have so many resources already that it's pathetic but more can never hurt. Still well done overall besides some of the mechanics of the transports being seemingly messed up.
Could you shut up please? Drone frigates are a handful but not useless. They are good against all vessels especially with energy cannons which you already have this mission. Multibeams on the other hand, are better against strike craft but worse against capital ships.
What's wrong? Can't handle it? Hives are okay. But they require much more micromanagement with their drones and cannot both attack and launch their drones at the same time from a distance if I recall correctly. Plus they cost more RU and SU's than Multibeams. I'd rather just go with the Multibeam + ACV/Acolyte combination. Multibeams are pretty good against capitals actually, and ACV/Acolytes can cover what they lack.
Oh yeah. and the Hive frigates drones never get an energy cannon upgrade either. Which is weird, because even Sentinels get energy cannons but what can you do? Maybe there's a mod that changes that but base game wise they never get that upgrade.
Hives cost 575 RUs compared to Multibeam Frigate's 700. Its main guns can be upgraded to energy cannons, and their damage to capital ships isn't too shabby. Hives beat any frigate save Kadeshi multibeams in equal numbers. I don't see a reason to build multibeams unless my opponent is going nuts on strike craft as I almost never reach maximum fleet capacity. I'm not certain whether Hives can fire their guns while Drones are out, but I do know that in equal numbers Hives always win. Only times they lose is if you send all drones to one frigate and it gets scuttled.
Fuck my memory on those RU's, Hives do cost more support units though. Only frigates I know that outright beat Dervishes are the Assault frigates honestly. They rip apart any other ion frigate due to their unique movement pattern and speed. Assault frigates have better turning speed though and their weapons actually track. Any time I've played, my Dervishes don't lose to Beast frigates, even Hives. ACV's also cover any weaknesses the Dervishes have as well like I said, I always love getting to maximum capacity as I love building Destroyers and Dreadnaughts. Hives cannot be given orders to move and fire their weaponry when they deploy the drones. The drones will always be canceled out and made to return to the HIve. Hives have to be kind of stationary while they deploy their main weapons, which always was retarded to me. What was also retarded was that the Drones were not upgraded with energy cannons either, a point I've already stated.
strange but why don't the game let us captured enemies vessel and upgrading it too? that way eariliy taidan vessel not only be captured but also anti beast proof aswell . I like those missile board they are awesome , firing multiple missile at the same time , wondered what happen if they upgraded with someaaw multi beam gun? i mean a ship that big must have like 5 beam gun on it
so taidain military history gonna remembered that they been beaten by a bunch of ore miner vessel. That all most outgun them even when infact the somtaaw is up against as always 10 to 1 or a hundred to 1 , hehehe
we should name somtaaw fleet as ultility fleet since, they only need like 10 minute to become superior technology advanced ship tranform from a single heavy mining carrier class to a support class ship that created army that could defeated the beast in like 5 hour of playing , heheheehe and that is something but all the standing army of bothside higarain and taidain failed to cope with , wooy kunlann is great engineer , they don't even buy tech , they make it themself
I love the energy cannons, it looks like your fleet is all spamming photon torpedoes.
That would make these fights very short.
Somtaaw super capital ships are immune because they vent drive plasma from the engines directly through infected parts of the ship, damaging the areas in exchange for avoiding total infection. It's possible (and this is a wild guess) that Taiidan ships aren't designed to allow that to happen, meaning they can't easily avoid infection.
They already lost to a bunch of refugees from Kharak in the 1st game. These guys are the remnants of that empire. Probably a significant difference now in terms of what they can bring to bear in terms of resources/manpower/ships.
Definitely made them stronger. Where it's really rough though is it ends up turning most Super Capital and Frigates normal kinetic weapons into much better anti-fighter tools; the energy cannon shots track extremely well, even if they have a shortened range.
...Did that wing of ACVs at 17:26 just crash into that assault frigate and lose about 6-8 of their number?
Or am I seeing things?
This is all getting remastered and released on Feb 25th 2015!!!!!
No cataclysm isn't.... They unfortunately couldn't find its source code.
maybe it's just me, but multi beams in cata feel like liquid beams.
*splurt squirt splurt squirt boom*
They're fun, but they just don't hit hard enough to serve as anti-capital ships. I always feel a little bit underpowered until the Somtaaw get actual destroyers.
Rave party surely is the favourite party on Hiigara. Laser shows all the way!
Pretty hectic. I must say it's kind of a frustrating mechanic to have your forces be out of the area when you thought you told them to attack or move, also seeing these resource collectors turned into troop transports going away from the KUUN-Lan was both hilarious and also frustrating. Although after they dock, I would honestly save and then try to keep fighting and see how many enemies I can kill and leech. That would be quite fun because the Imperials are so numerous in this mission. With those energy cannons and multi-beam ion frigates plus maybe a heavy tug or two, can really make a difference. The drone frigate feels almost useless now because the Acolytes, ACV's, and Multi-beams do the same job faster because you'd need to build up more drone frigates to make a big difference, except that the drone frigates are notoriously weak against frigates and heavier ships while the multi-beams are actually quite powerful when used properly, plus the Heavy Tugs can take any troublesome ships out of the fight, couple that with the ACV's EMP and Acolytes Missiles and energy cannons and you have quite the amazing force to just pummel anything basically, not to mention you can always build a leech or 2 and make money off of enemy ships, but you have so many resources already that it's pathetic but more can never hurt. Still well done overall besides some of the mechanics of the transports being seemingly messed up.
Could you shut up please? Drone frigates are a handful but not useless. They are good against all vessels especially with energy cannons which you already have this mission. Multibeams on the other hand, are better against strike craft but worse against capital ships.
What's wrong? Can't handle it? Hives are okay. But they require much more micromanagement with their drones and cannot both attack and launch their drones at the same time from a distance if I recall correctly. Plus they cost more RU and SU's than Multibeams. I'd rather just go with the Multibeam + ACV/Acolyte combination. Multibeams are pretty good against capitals actually, and ACV/Acolytes can cover what they lack.
Oh yeah. and the Hive frigates drones never get an energy cannon upgrade either. Which is weird, because even Sentinels get energy cannons but what can you do? Maybe there's a mod that changes that but base game wise they never get that upgrade.
Hives cost 575 RUs compared to Multibeam Frigate's 700. Its main guns can be upgraded to energy cannons, and their damage to capital ships isn't too shabby. Hives beat any frigate save Kadeshi multibeams in equal numbers. I don't see a reason to build multibeams unless my opponent is going nuts on strike craft as I almost never reach maximum fleet capacity.
I'm not certain whether Hives can fire their guns while Drones are out, but I do know that in equal numbers Hives always win. Only times they lose is if you send all drones to one frigate and it gets scuttled.
Fuck my memory on those RU's, Hives do cost more support units though. Only frigates I know that outright beat Dervishes are the Assault frigates honestly. They rip apart any other ion frigate due to their unique movement pattern and speed. Assault frigates have better turning speed though and their weapons actually track. Any time I've played, my Dervishes don't lose to Beast frigates, even Hives. ACV's also cover any weaknesses the Dervishes have as well like I said, I always love getting to maximum capacity as I love building Destroyers and Dreadnaughts.
Hives cannot be given orders to move and fire their weaponry when they deploy the drones. The drones will always be canceled out and made to return to the HIve. Hives have to be kind of stationary while they deploy their main weapons, which always was retarded to me. What was also retarded was that the Drones were not upgraded with energy cannons either, a point I've already stated.
I know, right?
All those losses... But LODESEMONE (probably)
better to sit at the sensor field and keep smacking them as they come to you or remove sensors to make them come to you ....
of course they wont kil it wuickly it keeps being repaired .. KILL the repair ship FIRST ALWAYS
they ran away because you set them to f2 evasive ... lol f4 aggressive ... so they attack
strange but why don't the game let us captured enemies vessel and upgrading it too?
that way eariliy taidan vessel not only be captured but also anti beast proof aswell . I like those missile board they are awesome , firing multiple missile at the same time , wondered what happen if they upgraded with someaaw multi beam gun? i mean a ship that big must have like 5 beam gun on it
so taidain military history gonna remembered that they been beaten by a bunch of ore miner vessel. That all most outgun them even when infact the somtaaw is up against as always 10 to 1 or a hundred to 1 , hehehe
we should name somtaaw fleet as ultility fleet since, they only need like 10 minute to become superior technology advanced ship tranform from a single heavy mining carrier class to a support class ship that created army that could defeated the beast in like 5 hour of playing , heheheehe
and that is something but all the standing army of bothside higarain and taidain failed to cope with , wooy kunlann is great engineer , they don't even buy tech , they make it themself
play metal fatigue game plz :) i like your videos
I will have a look, but games that are twelve years old don't always like my recording setup.
trololol