I wouldnt say Yuki is dragging the car to the Max, the car could give more but you would need a much better driver to get that performance. I am very impressed with Yuki this season though, hope he keeps this up
@sonypd9842 If Gasly could beat Yuki then no that car isn't getting dragged to the max. Yuki has improved a lot but acting like he's doing an Alonso 2012 is ridiculous
@@sonypd9842 Well no, Yuki isnt a bad driver but he isnt a good enough driver yet to be able to get 100% out of a car, not yet atleast but who knows maybe he can down the line
I think a big part of Nyck's struggle is that Yuki has finally begun to consistently show the potential that he's flashed the last two years. We knew Yuki was a massive diamond in the rough, but now it seems he's been cut and polished into the gem we know he is. And as a corollary, Yuki's been in the car for 2 years already, and has probably had the car at least partially developed to fit his driving style, which might put characteristics in the car that are adverse to Nyck's driving style. Also, I do think a lot of drivers struggle when they move from highly-competitive machinery like Nyck had in F2 and FE and into struggling machinery like the Alphatauri is this year. I mean, we've seen it with Hamilton, Ricciardo, and other drivers. So I'm willing to give him at least till the summer break to find his stride.
Also he has driven I believe only Mercedes powered cars his F1 career before hoping into the AT. Which means the chassis is designed differently, meaning his driving style might not fit Honda powered cars. Kind of like what happened to Riccardo when he went from Renault powered cars to Mercedes powered cars
@@davebowman5152 I do believe Nyck had a test with alpine last year. I know it’s not the Honda engine but there is some experience with non Mercedes engine
the time De Vries scored points with Williams, while subbing for Alex. De Vries was the toast of the town. Everyone was calling him the next coming of Max. That he took a shitty car (Williams) and drove it to points position. I've always said it was a fluke that De Vries was able to do it. Alex was the main driving force behind the Williams program. His input was the reason why Williams was able to developed the car into a top 10-15 car. When Alex had to sit out, De Vries happened to be Williams reserve driver. Nyck was already driving a well developed car that was catered for Alex... It wasn't Nyck's exactly Nyck's skills that allowed him to score points. But rather, it was Alex's input that allowed his car to be a top 10 car that day. And Nyck happened to be called up to drive in it. This year is proving that Nyck doesn't belong in F1 as a fulltime driver. 5 races in, he's already crashed out plenty of times... Crashing into walls... Crashing into other drivers... Season is long... I hope he can get it together. He's look more and more like GOATIFI... constantly crashing and constantly in the back of the field.
@@cpcxgsr honestly, I always had said that de Vries is the most overrated driver but I am actually surprised with his pace. He is on par with Yuki on his first year which I think is pretty good. It's just the question of if it's good enough to justify development. This is Yuki's third year, and in three years de Vries will be 30.
For Nyck, my biggest gripe was him chatting like he was going to wipe the floor with Yuki. He seemed sure he would come out on top, seemed like he was looking down on Yuki too, and then not delivering on that just looks like he’s an idiot. If he’d been a bit more humble I might’ve had lower expectations.
Also he has been sold as a super talented champion in lower series, but cmon... he won f2 after 4 years where he could not beat Leclerc, Norris, Russell, Albon, etc... he even lost to Latifi one season.
He's not an F1 caliber driver. He never was. He won F2 in the worst grid F2 has ever had, where his main rival was Latifi. He won Formula E when the quali format was plain stupid tbh and he won in the final race where 8 drivers had a chance to win. As soon as they switched to a normal format he got destroyed by Vandoorne. Last year his performance in Monza is the only thing that got him that seat and if you look at it objectively is it really that impressive to be faster than Latifi and score points on the strongest track for your car? Albon would have scored points there too, easily
The amount of people hanging off this guys cock when he finished in monza was insane. People forget he never sat in an f1 car until he was in his mid 20s...
I agree. Yuki is wiping the floor with Nyck which is ironic as Nyck was quite cocky and not very complimentary of Yuki in his press comments leading up to this season after AT hired him. If Nyck does not make a substantial performance improvement by summer break I expect Liam Lawson to be put into his race seat. Red Bull has a long history of mid season replacements of underperforming drivers on its teams.
Franz Tost wanted Schumacher. Helmut Marko was against it. He got a worse Mick. I still hope Nyck will improve much very fast. Even for a Rookie, that's Mazepin levels we see frm him. He can do better.
@@andresmartinezramos7513 Why don’t you actually look at the context of those champions? He lucked out with his formula E championship as many of the contenders crashedout, mind you there was 8 championship contenders, his formula 2 championship was in F2s least competitive year, were his only “competition” was Nicholas L. Yeah you can say he already successful but that doesn’t mean hes cut out for formula 1. You people really need to look at other motorsports instead of just Formula 1, and also are we even watching the same season? Logan and Oscar are preforming fine, not the best but alright, while nyck is doing horrendous, while being more experienced.
@@JAY-RIZZY But him being hired is not a dumb move as the comment I replied to alluded to. His current performance in the sport is irrelevant to the time when the decision is made. Also, it still is an excuse since most drivers do need some time to adapt to an new car. Specially so given how different FE and F1 cars are.
I keep telling people man if you’re a talented driver, you will find a seat early in F1. There’s a reason why drivers like Lewis, Max, Fernando, and others were garnered as highly rated prospects before ever entering into F1. That’s the expectation of the sport.
funny you mention that because lately i've been feeling like Ollie bearman is gonna be the next star from f2 to make to f1 early on, which puts even more pressure on carlos sainz at the moment because he's not really performing(specially after baku)
i feel like something underreported about de vries is just how often he got fanboost in formula e. in his title winning season he got it nearly every time, with rival mortara only getting it once or twice
With what I've gathered so far from other comments and this one: De Vries won the FE title with the most fanboosts and a final race with 8 possible title contenders, many of whom crashed out or had their races ruined. Almost as if the title was handed to him.
I think this just proves how worlds away F1 is even from F2. You can go from winning everything in spec open-wheelers and then be thrown in a subpar car (as is the AT currently) and all of a sudden you’re at the back of the pack every week. I’m sure these gaps in emotion and performance play on your mindset and current performance.
Yes but it also exposes a drivers weaknesses especially in their discipline. To me F1 is more of a pro-am sport because some of the drivers still have no idea how to race like a professional and deliver results they are being paid to deliver. Most are not even adults when they enter the sport. However teams nowadays are obsessed with finding the next Verstappen or Vettel that they can´t see that majority of young drivers will not turn out like that.
It's not a professional series, the caliber of talent is just worlds apart. Sometimes you get phenoms like Leclerc, Russell, and Piastri come up, but I'd wager that many of the drivers in professional series like IndyCar and Super Formula would be more successful in F1 if given the chance.
Logan hasn't been impressive? If anything, I think he's been pretty decent and I didn't expect to do well at all and I think he has done a better job than what Nyck has done so far. Logan has been so much better than Latifi, but then again, that's not hard to do
@@7or7Channel He's harsh on who ever he doesn't like Just using this video he made digs against Logan and Mazepin, and Mazepin, while not being the best, was far from abysmal in 2021, yeah he wasn't doing that good, but that Haas was go slow and don't crash (Mazepin) or push hard and crash and cost the team money (Mick) To say anything on anyones skill in that Haas is just stupid, Lewis and Max could've been teammates in that car, still end up with a car that can't get off the last row
I've noticed the majority of F1 Commentators have been against Sargeant for some reason. He's probably the least decorated of the three rookie drivers here in F1 and so far is performing better than Nyck but worse than Piastri. Really wish people wouldn't fly off the handle about this stuff, considering we're not even half way through the championship.
It's a shame because his story is of someone who has hung in there, on the margins of F1, always a contender but never as serious option for a drive and then when the moment came took his opportunity with both hands in Monza. The fact he entered F1 at age 28 is pretty cool IMO and should give hope to other drivers of that ilk such as Jake Dennis or Alex Palou that it's never too late if you've got the talent (and luck). It's not over yet and I hope he turns it around but I'm worried for him but even more so I'm worried of the potential that his experience could lead shut down the 'late bloomers' chance to drive in F1 ever again.
I think Palou would do well but as a Formula E fan I'm really excited to see what Dennis can achieve there, he's been brilliant - title contender his rookie year and doing great so far this year as well.
People forget that after his title win in 2019, he went to formula e for 3 yrs and this is his first ever full season in a much powerful car and we need to give him time
My two cents-I think given enough time, he could adapt to F1 but we’d never see the best of him. He’s 28-most drivers would hit their prime around now and in the time it would take for him to get used to things, it would be too late. In any case, AT were very open in going for Nyck because of his experience. They wanted someone to match Gasly’s calibre and he isn’t doing that; if anything, Yuki’s the one who stepped into that role. If this continues for even a few more races, he’s 100% losing his seat.
Here's the thing, I really do like Nyck De Vries and I do admire his accomplishments. It pains to me to see him perform underwhelming after the last few races. However despite what I've been reading and hearing, I'm one of those people who's not ready to write him off just yet. I do think that he still has time to turn things around, IF he is capable of successfully doing so.
In Australia, De vries also had the better floor for quali, so being 2 tenths off is not that good either. I still have hope that he finds his way to be more consistent and helps yuki fight for points.
He's one of those drivers where if he can start out front he can do well, but when Nyck is in the rear of the field he struggles with traffic and dirty air.
The thing is, he won in F2 when the grid was not so strong. Last year he was incredibly lucky to replace albon at Monza, because the track suited perfectly to the car ad he managed to finish on the points, one race after he would not performed so well. This start of the season just show us his weakness he’s been beaten by Yuki fair and square all the time, not even managing to get close.
Overconfidence, expectations set high, due to what he did in Formula 2 and Formula E, little bit of arrogance, and to put it nicely... Might be overwhelmed, and is struggling with the size difference between Formula E and F1 I can see the potential, but it might be too late
Lmao i remember reading people's comments las year on how nick would replace Perez in a few years. It was clear to everyone with a functioning brain that De Vries was intended as a stop gap solution due to the current driver drought in the Red bull junior driver program.
All talk but no bite. I get that he as a rookie had a lot of pressure on him, but he brought it on himself. After being announced into F1, in some interviews he gave an attitude and answers essentially saying that he will be the more mature driver of the two and contribute more towards the team. This was when Yuki still had anger and attitude issues during races.
Just another case of media and fans overhyping a mediocre driver after ONE race. He beat in that race the most blah driver in the last at least 10 years in formula 1 but was made to sound like he was the next Schumacher
Yeah the expectations proved too much considering that he has had all this experience, but he has come in at an age much higher than the average F1 driver, today, and for the sake of Red Bull, his progress indeed wasn't good enough, as somebody who isn't exactly a Rookie.
I think we're too quick to hail newcomers as major contenders who will take the field by storm. The media was hyping up Tsunoda, Devries, Piastri, and even Schmaucher so much before they even took a single lap in F1...and so far they have all falling short of lofty expectations. I think the sport has such few drivers that everyone jumps onto the *insert new name* bandwagon, just to see someone new.
Yeah everybody expects another "once in a generation talent!" Type driver when really thats a unfair and a unrealistic standard to hold new drivers to, theres a reason why theres only a "once in a generation talent!", once in a generation, if that makes sense.
Tsunoda really mean it, this year he is improving so much and be the leader and carrying AT alone. Before 2023 season start, people talking about Vries gonna be the leader. Vries him self looks so confident and he think he gonna full swipe Tsunoda this year. Clearly the most overrated driver this year. I also think that Tsunoda can have more years in F1 if he keep this performance.
It didn’t help that he was being compared to Latifi, rather than Yuki. One was the worst driver we’ve had this decade, and the other is a prodigy who is having his best season yet.
I honestly thought he would be a lot better than he's shown and Tsunoda has upped his game this year and Marko wont hesitate to replace him if he keeps on crashing with a certain F1 driver with 8 wins
No Ricciardo will never drive for AT, the AT seats are for young blood not to help Ricciardo to come back. Plus Ricciardo said no to Haas i cant imagine him saying yes to AT. Mick is a better option than Ricciardo or a new driver from the RB academy for 2024 maybe.
@@Deatgodx mick is more suited for williams once lewis retires and albon moves to Mercedes(mercedes directly will be a no brainer). Or audi as they prefer a German driver. Riccardo would be great for Anderetti cadillac.
I didn't understand all the fuzz around his GP in Monza last year. If the wiliams had to perform well it was on that track, the wiliams was known for high top speed. He did a job good but nothing crazy to me. About this year, Yuki is doing very well, but he had so many stupid crashes before even with team mate, Nick is far to be at that level mistakes. He will get experience, it's just that weird thing from Helmut that bothers me, to promisse things then put pressure on young pilots when they make mistakes, you need to give them a chance.
I didn't have super high expectations for him, but I did expect him to atleast he a decent driver in F1. Now it's very early to tell because there's only been 4 races out of 23. I believe he will get better as the season goes, hopefully.
As always Aldas a good video! True, RD don't have a lot of patience with drivers but why should they when there are a lot of drivers out there and no enough teams in F1.
I honestly think that after Gasly, RedBull changed their ways with dropping drivers. They didn't drop Yuki even though he made many mistakes, be far off from his teammate, etc.. So I think they'll hold onto Nyck for atleast this season and next season as well. Nyck is one of those drivers like Ricciardo, Bottas, and Checo where they're in between the experienced and the younger talent. He worked so hard and was so unlucky to not get a sat right after f2 like most drivers who performed as well as him would have. Therefore, of course there's more pressure for him. He waited years to get into f1 and everyone knew he had the talent. Especially with RedBull's past of dropping people, there's a lot on his plate. Let him braethe and just give it time. He'll improve
I feel like a lot of people were excited by De Vries' points finish for Williams at Monza, but what people didn't realise is that Albon had been getting points all season for Williams, so if he'd been driving that day I bet he would've done the same or even better. I was surprised at first by the whole thing but when I thought about it, it wasn't impressive at all. As well as this, Monza is very advantageous to the cars with better straight line speed, which Williams have been good at recently with their cars set up for less drag. He's got expectations of being this incredible talent, when in reality he isn't, hasn't been and probably won't be. Just my thoughts at least.
Great video, with a lot of facts, unfortunately for De Vries. Like you said, it takes one great race ( like Monza last season) and things will look much different. That's the upside of those long long seasons. If he scores points in the last 6 races, nobody will mention that first 17. 😅
I don't know what you're taking about. Mazepin had a great start to 2021. He made it, what... to like Turn 4 of Bahrain before just losing it completely for absolutely no reason and spectacularly slamming into the wall... That was a great start. He got the car onto screen, then was out of everyone else's way almost as fast as literally possible.
danny ric is the right option from those 2. The problem of AlphaTauri is that the team currently need someone similar to Gasly (consistent point scorer) which Nyck is not. The worse part is if take 1 out of those 2 youngsters now, then is an idiotic decision already actually
He's experiencing his rookie season in arguably the worst car on the grid in an era where the cars are way harder to drive than the last two eras. He's going to struggle. He's doing worse than anyone expected sure, but his struggles shouldn't be that shocking really. Keep in mind, when he scored points for Williams he was driving a salvageable car. The AlphaTauri only looks decent because Tsunoda has the experience to make it LOOK that way, and even then he can't get a points finish without chaos happening. De Vries, like the rest of the rookie class, is going to need time to learn and we as fans need to be patient with him. He scored points on debut last season with little luck at play; he deserves to be here and he'll soon figure it out and once again prove that.
Also, it's worth mentioning that before being picked up by AT, de Vries was set for a Formula E drive with Maserati and a WEC seat at Toyota. I bet he's currently ruining turning that down right now.
My only disagreement is ... well, teeny disagreement is that Mazespin was far more of a p**ck than I expected, making the comparison rather mean, as Nyck still seems like a decent guy. When it comes to performance alone however, can't disagree, including on the other drivers mentioned. Of course, having those higher expectations puts a lot more pressure, but we saw from Lewis [as the most high profile] that deserved expectations can be met by "rookies".
My guess is he relied a lot on the support network at Mercedes and would likely have done better had he been at Williams this season. Red Bull/Alpha Tauri is an absolute pressure cooker by comparison.
I think we'd be having a different conversation about De Vries if he went to Williams instead. It's also an absolute make or break year for Tsunoda, whereas Albon has nothing to prove and has been excellent for Williams.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt to at least race 10 because despite the hype and the experience, he's still a rookie F1 driver in his first *hopefully full season. He is however at the literal worst team to not be showing some improvement because RB is well known to cut drivers off at the knees if they aren't performing. At 27 years of age, this is it. You kind of want to cue up Eminem's "Lose Yourself" for him because that's what this is, it's do or die.
De Vries has a record of coming into a new car/team/class and having a really bad first season, then coming back with a vengeance the next. His time in formula e is a good example. In short, it's not good, but he definitely needs some time.
4 out of 5 circuits so far have been (semi) street circuits. Coming from much smaller formula E cars it’s probably gonna take a bit of time to get used to it. I’d like to see what he can do on more traditional circuits like Monza where he did a great job.
Exactly, it takes time to learn the car, even after his other racing experiences in Formula E, that is a whole different world. Its his first season in F1, just give him some time and watch him improve.
I like Nyck but I did question the decision for alpha tauri to pick him up. I was expecting the seat to go to Lawson or maybe even someone who is a bit more of a known quantity.
If Yuki hasn't been given the 🥾 I don't see why they would give Nick..in the latter part of last season Yuki started to perform and even this season has been a lil rocky..plus how good is the car ?
I think f1 has a big problem with signing rookies before theyre ready. Everyone wants to get their hands on the next Vettel or Verstappen but truth is even if these kids sore in f2 oe gp2 or w.e, most of them cant swim with the big fish in f1 yet
I'm neither for or against De Vries, but lets look at the fact that the alpha Tauri is an awful car, his P9 at Monza in the Williams was a fluke due to the otherwise awful Williams having good straight line speed (a big plus at Monza), and beating a teammate as bad as Latifi isn't much of a measure of talent. I suspect there is a reason he's 28 and just coming into F1...he's not good enough.
That got me thinking: what if DEV bags 2 big points finishes (maybe 6th & 7th) and outscored TSU like that one year LAT outscored RUS? Because it is very much possible given there are only 2 points that AT can realistically fight for every weekend.
Last year, he drove the car with the highest straight line speed beside redbull on a piss easy track that has the highest straight line content, failed to pull away and was attacked by another rookie in the slowest straight line car, got a safety car finish when his tire ran out and was about to be overtaken by Zhou. He also got some nice word from max being compatriots. So there was nothing too impressive there last year if you really calm down and think about it. Therefore we shouldn’t be too surprised to see him not performing in a slow car.
Pretty certain helmut is making sure devries car is worse, the guy is corrupt as fuck and hates when any driver outside his programme gets a seat cos it makes him look redundant. Explain how Nyck could’ve fallen off so much after his titles in other categories and strong showing in Monza last year. Bit far fetched on its own but when u consider the red bull set up is the dirtiest thing to touch F1 then yh it’s possible
1. In his F2 championship his main rival was Latifi. 2. His FE championship was due to a shitty qualifying system. In 22' where they fixed the qualifying system he was destroyed by Vandoorne in equal machinery. 3. Monza was the 1 track that really suited the Williams car, due to the long straights, and low downforce. Nyck's stats look good in a Wikipedia page, but when you dissect the context it makes sense why he has been shit in his AlphaTauri stint. Also what would Helmut gain from sabotaging De Vries? If it was to give Iwasa or Lawson the seat then they would of given either one them Gasly's seat last year anyways. Pierre already spil the beans in the paddock that he was moving to Alpine by Monza. So if super license points were a consern, they could of given 7 FP1 sessions from Monza to Abu Dhabi ti either Lawson or Iwasa. If it was to get Danny Ric a seat then why did Helmut straight up admit that Daniel isn't getting the AlphaTauri seat? If it was to keep Yuki, then Nicholas Latifi was available. Latifi would a safe bet that Yuki can beat him and in bonus you get a Sofina sponsorship. If it was to straight up ruin Nyck's career, then why would Red Bull of all teams would want to potentially anger the Orange Army, one of their biggest customers, by sabotaging their fellow countryman just to ruin his carrer?
The problem is that so many drivers nowadays get judged by their personality. I am not sure if this also effects the decisions of the teams all that much but at least for the fans goes that they are more interested in someone being a ''nice guy'' instead of judging by performance. Take Vettel or Perez for example. Specially Vettel has really had and endless run of fans giving him the benefit of the doubt. Perez is performing as an excellent 2nd driver, like Barrichello, Coulthard or Irvine or names like that. But somehow fans see a real champion in him. Why !? While Stroll is seen as a pay driver that has no business in F1 !? Its all way to sentimental. Are we looking for the best drivers in the world or just drivers with a really nice personality? I am Dutch and have always followed the new about De Vries and already 3-4 years ago I was saying he would not reach F1 since it took to much time to impress. But here he is anyway. I am 100% sure there is a list of drivers that would have deserved that seat more. But everyone will hate me for saying this since De Vries is such a ''nice guy'' 😆
Perez is having one of his best seasons this year tho, I do agree with you partially. The reality is that if you don’t have the money AND talent you can’t get into f1, and to bring in money you have to be marketable on the track and off the track, it’s a job setting that’s very hard and unforgiving with only 20 spots available, and the sport really can’t just chuck someone with proven talent, vettel is a 4 time world champion with experience, and he’s an experienced driver overall, there are other things behind the scenes that us fans may not see that makes drivers so great, feedback being one thing that comes to my mind
The age comment about the ceiling isn't so accurate when you look at Alonso yea he's been a wdc before but the RB makes it impossible for anyone else to get it atm lol
OK. Let's put it that way. AT is a fashion brand, so they can't afford 2 short drivers. And Nyck's taller than Yuki. We don't know which one to be replaced yet
While I think he’s underperformed. I think saying there was no real hype around him before the Williams Monza outing is incorrect. Being a karting driver when he was in karting, everyone knew who he was. He dominated races in Europe and was widely considered the next best prospect at the time. Within the racing community we all knew who he was and what he was capable of even through junior formula. I also saw some people making the argument that Monza is an east track to debut on, is completely incorrect. Qualifying and consistency in Monza is extremely difficult. You almost need 2 or 3 laps to really get into the braking rhythm. As well as the lack of corners make each corner exit even more important. It’s one of those tracks that seems east but it’s actually quite tricky to extract lap time out of.
What's worse is Yuki is dragging that car to the max which only makes him look worse
I wouldnt say Yuki is dragging the car to the Max, the car could give more but you would need a much better driver to get that performance. I am very impressed with Yuki this season though, hope he keeps this up
@@BlissifiedHH no Yuki is definitely dragging the AT04 to the max
@sonypd9842 If Gasly could beat Yuki then no that car isn't getting dragged to the max. Yuki has improved a lot but acting like he's doing an Alonso 2012 is ridiculous
@@sonypd9842 Well no, Yuki isnt a bad driver but he isnt a good enough driver yet to be able to get 100% out of a car, not yet atleast but who knows maybe he can down the line
I mean that Alpha Tauri is a shitbox atm. Maybe the 9th or even 10th fastest car
I think a big part of Nyck's struggle is that Yuki has finally begun to consistently show the potential that he's flashed the last two years. We knew Yuki was a massive diamond in the rough, but now it seems he's been cut and polished into the gem we know he is. And as a corollary, Yuki's been in the car for 2 years already, and has probably had the car at least partially developed to fit his driving style, which might put characteristics in the car that are adverse to Nyck's driving style.
Also, I do think a lot of drivers struggle when they move from highly-competitive machinery like Nyck had in F2 and FE and into struggling machinery like the Alphatauri is this year. I mean, we've seen it with Hamilton, Ricciardo, and other drivers. So I'm willing to give him at least till the summer break to find his stride.
Also he has driven I believe only Mercedes powered cars his F1 career before hoping into the AT. Which means the chassis is designed differently, meaning his driving style might not fit Honda powered cars. Kind of like what happened to Riccardo when he went from Renault powered cars to Mercedes powered cars
@@davebowman5152 I do believe Nyck had a test with alpine last year. I know it’s not the Honda engine but there is some experience with non Mercedes engine
I just think Yuki was always always underrated
the time De Vries scored points with Williams, while subbing for Alex. De Vries was the toast of the town. Everyone was calling him the next coming of Max. That he took a shitty car (Williams) and drove it to points position. I've always said it was a fluke that De Vries was able to do it. Alex was the main driving force behind the Williams program. His input was the reason why Williams was able to developed the car into a top 10-15 car. When Alex had to sit out, De Vries happened to be Williams reserve driver. Nyck was already driving a well developed car that was catered for Alex... It wasn't Nyck's exactly Nyck's skills that allowed him to score points. But rather, it was Alex's input that allowed his car to be a top 10 car that day. And Nyck happened to be called up to drive in it.
This year is proving that Nyck doesn't belong in F1 as a fulltime driver. 5 races in, he's already crashed out plenty of times... Crashing into walls... Crashing into other drivers... Season is long... I hope he can get it together. He's look more and more like GOATIFI... constantly crashing and constantly in the back of the field.
@@cpcxgsr honestly, I always had said that de Vries is the most overrated driver but I am actually surprised with his pace. He is on par with Yuki on his first year which I think is pretty good. It's just the question of if it's good enough to justify development. This is Yuki's third year, and in three years de Vries will be 30.
For Nyck, my biggest gripe was him chatting like he was going to wipe the floor with Yuki. He seemed sure he would come out on top, seemed like he was looking down on Yuki too, and then not delivering on that just looks like he’s an idiot. If he’d been a bit more humble I might’ve had lower expectations.
To be honest I think everyone looks down on Yuki 😂
THIS, not enough people talk or have noticed the shade he threw in multiple interviews
@@FormulaMac well, not nyck, instead of looking down, he might be looking for a new job.
Also he has been sold as a super talented champion in lower series, but cmon... he won f2 after 4 years where he could not beat Leclerc, Norris, Russell, Albon, etc... he even lost to Latifi one season.
i couldn't agree more with this comment. He definetely seemed overconfident😅
He's not an F1 caliber driver. He never was. He won F2 in the worst grid F2 has ever had, where his main rival was Latifi. He won Formula E when the quali format was plain stupid tbh and he won in the final race where 8 drivers had a chance to win. As soon as they switched to a normal format he got destroyed by Vandoorne. Last year his performance in Monza is the only thing that got him that seat and if you look at it objectively is it really that impressive to be faster than Latifi and score points on the strongest track for your car? Albon would have scored points there too, easily
The amount of people hanging off this guys cock when he finished in monza was insane. People forget he never sat in an f1 car until he was in his mid 20s...
Bro is just hating 💀
@@erdemeebilgee3584Bro has a point, though.
@@erdemeebilgee3584 Provides reasonable arguments. U = why u're hating him 😂
Monza is also a piss easy track to make a debut at compared to most
I agree. Yuki is wiping the floor with Nyck which is ironic as Nyck was quite cocky and not very complimentary of Yuki in his press comments leading up to this season after AT hired him.
If Nyck does not make a substantial performance improvement by summer break I expect Liam Lawson to be put into his race seat. Red Bull has a long history of mid season replacements of underperforming drivers on its teams.
DUDE YAAAY I love liam lawson he seems like such a sweetheart!
Franz Tost wanted Schumacher. Helmut Marko was against it. He got a worse Mick. I still hope Nyck will improve much very fast. Even for a Rookie, that's Mazepin levels we see frm him. He can do better.
Marko should have been wiser not to pick drivers over one performance
@@OumuamuaOumuamua he is both a Formula 2 and Formula E champion
He is a successful driver already
@@andresmartinezramos7513 Then him being an F1 rookie is not that much of an excuse.
@@andresmartinezramos7513 Why don’t you actually look at the context of those champions? He lucked out with his formula E championship as many of the contenders crashedout, mind you there was 8 championship contenders, his formula 2 championship was in F2s least competitive year, were his only “competition” was Nicholas L. Yeah you can say he already successful but that doesn’t mean hes cut out for formula 1. You people really need to look at other motorsports instead of just Formula 1, and also are we even watching the same season? Logan and Oscar are preforming fine, not the best but alright, while nyck is doing horrendous, while being more experienced.
@@JAY-RIZZY But him being hired is not a dumb move as the comment I replied to alluded to.
His current performance in the sport is irrelevant to the time when the decision is made. Also, it still is an excuse since most drivers do need some time to adapt to an new car. Specially so given how different FE and F1 cars are.
to be honest yuki was always going to be better after a bit time, horner had said on dts that yuki had potential to be a mini Verstappen
I keep telling people man if you’re a talented driver, you will find a seat early in F1. There’s a reason why drivers like Lewis, Max, Fernando, and others were garnered as highly rated prospects before ever entering into F1. That’s the expectation of the sport.
funny you mention that because lately i've been feeling like Ollie bearman is gonna be the next star from f2 to make to f1 early on, which puts even more pressure on carlos sainz at the moment because he's not really performing(specially after baku)
Drivers back then had unlimited testing.
i feel like something underreported about de vries is just how often he got fanboost in formula e. in his title winning season he got it nearly every time, with rival mortara only getting it once or twice
Facts and for me Vandoorne was way better than him
With what I've gathered so far from other comments and this one:
De Vries won the FE title with the most fanboosts and a final race with 8 possible title contenders, many of whom crashed out or had their races ruined.
Almost as if the title was handed to him.
I think this just proves how worlds away F1 is even from F2. You can go from winning everything in spec open-wheelers and then be thrown in a subpar car (as is the AT currently) and all of a sudden you’re at the back of the pack every week. I’m sure these gaps in emotion and performance play on your mindset and current performance.
Nyck is extremely overrated
Yes but it also exposes a drivers weaknesses especially in their discipline. To me F1 is more of a pro-am sport because some of the drivers still have no idea how to race like a professional and deliver results they are being paid to deliver. Most are not even adults when they enter the sport. However teams nowadays are obsessed with finding the next Verstappen or Vettel that they can´t see that majority of young drivers will not turn out like that.
It's not a professional series, the caliber of talent is just worlds apart. Sometimes you get phenoms like Leclerc, Russell, and Piastri come up, but I'd wager that many of the drivers in professional series like IndyCar and Super Formula would be more successful in F1 if given the chance.
Logan hasn't been impressive? If anything, I think he's been pretty decent and I didn't expect to do well at all and I think he has done a better job than what Nyck has done so far. Logan has been so much better than Latifi, but then again, that's not hard to do
Aldas is always a bit harsh on Logan
They hate him cause he sees MPH like a real man 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@7or7Channel He's harsh on who ever he doesn't like
Just using this video he made digs against Logan and Mazepin, and Mazepin, while not being the best, was far from abysmal in 2021, yeah he wasn't doing that good, but that Haas was go slow and don't crash (Mazepin) or push hard and crash and cost the team money (Mick)
To say anything on anyones skill in that Haas is just stupid, Lewis and Max could've been teammates in that car, still end up with a car that can't get off the last row
I've noticed the majority of F1 Commentators have been against Sargeant for some reason. He's probably the least decorated of the three rookie drivers here in F1 and so far is performing better than Nyck but worse than Piastri.
Really wish people wouldn't fly off the handle about this stuff, considering we're not even half way through the championship.
Pretty sure you dont need to think about logan vs de vries atm logan has been better and if you count the hype de vries had logan has been far better
It's a shame because his story is of someone who has hung in there, on the margins of F1, always a contender but never as serious option for a drive and then when the moment came took his opportunity with both hands in Monza. The fact he entered F1 at age 28 is pretty cool IMO and should give hope to other drivers of that ilk such as Jake Dennis or Alex Palou that it's never too late if you've got the talent (and luck). It's not over yet and I hope he turns it around but I'm worried for him but even more so I'm worried of the potential that his experience could lead shut down the 'late bloomers' chance to drive in F1 ever again.
I think Palou would do well but as a Formula E fan I'm really excited to see what Dennis can achieve there, he's been brilliant - title contender his rookie year and doing great so far this year as well.
People forget that after his title win in 2019, he went to formula e for 3 yrs and this is his first ever full season in a much powerful car and we need to give him time
He’s 28 years old they need to keep their options open
Overconfidence and over arrogance comes to it
My two cents-I think given enough time, he could adapt to F1 but we’d never see the best of him. He’s 28-most drivers would hit their prime around now and in the time it would take for him to get used to things, it would be too late. In any case, AT were very open in going for Nyck because of his experience. They wanted someone to match Gasly’s calibre and he isn’t doing that; if anything, Yuki’s the one who stepped into that role. If this continues for even a few more races, he’s 100% losing his seat.
Hopefully it’s given to iwasa or lawson
Here's the thing, I really do like Nyck De Vries and I do admire his accomplishments. It pains to me to see him perform underwhelming after the last few races. However despite what I've been reading and hearing, I'm one of those people who's not ready to write him off just yet. I do think that he still has time to turn things around, IF he is capable of successfully doing so.
Yes, sometimes just require a little time
It's been great seeing Yuki continue to grow as a driver.
''under the eye of helmut marko'' absolute violation lol
In Australia, De vries also had the better floor for quali, so being 2 tenths off is not that good either. I still have hope that he finds his way to be more consistent and helps yuki fight for points.
Latifi are laughing right now of every of Us who hyped DeVries after Monza 2022
Today YT recommended this video, on Honey Badger revival day.
He's one of those drivers where if he can start out front he can do well, but when Nyck is in the rear of the field he struggles with traffic and dirty air.
So like oscar piastri in F1M 2022
The thing is, he won in F2 when the grid was not so strong. Last year he was incredibly lucky to replace albon at Monza, because the track suited perfectly to the car ad he managed to finish on the points, one race after he would not performed so well. This start of the season just show us his weakness he’s been beaten by Yuki fair and square all the time, not even managing to get close.
I guess he was not as good as we all thought he was after Monza
Overconfidence, expectations set high, due to what he did in Formula 2 and Formula E, little bit of arrogance, and to put it nicely... Might be overwhelmed, and is struggling with the size difference between Formula E and F1
I can see the potential, but it might be too late
Lmao i remember reading people's comments las year on how nick would replace Perez in a few years.
It was clear to everyone with a functioning brain that De Vries was intended as a stop gap solution due to the current driver drought in the Red bull junior driver program.
All talk but no bite. I get that he as a rookie had a lot of pressure on him, but he brought it on himself. After being announced into F1, in some interviews he gave an attitude and answers essentially saying that he will be the more mature driver of the two and contribute more towards the team. This was when Yuki still had anger and attitude issues during races.
Just another case of media and fans overhyping a mediocre driver after ONE race. He beat in that race the most blah driver in the last at least 10 years in formula 1 but was made to sound like he was the next Schumacher
Drive to survive and its consequences have been a disaster for f1
Yuki wiping the floor with him
Yeah the expectations proved too much considering that he has had all this experience, but he has come in at an age much higher than the average F1 driver, today, and for the sake of Red Bull, his progress indeed wasn't good enough, as somebody who isn't exactly a Rookie.
I think we're too quick to hail newcomers as major contenders who will take the field by storm. The media was hyping up Tsunoda, Devries, Piastri, and even Schmaucher so much before they even took a single lap in F1...and so far they have all falling short of lofty expectations. I think the sport has such few drivers that everyone jumps onto the *insert new name* bandwagon, just to see someone new.
Yeah everybody expects another "once in a generation talent!" Type driver when really thats a unfair and a unrealistic standard to hold new drivers to, theres a reason why theres only a "once in a generation talent!", once in a generation, if that makes sense.
Piastri is doing very well wdym
Every single driver that has come up the feeder series in the past decade has been overhyped.
Yuki really started to perform at the worst time possible for Nyck.
Tsunoda really mean it, this year he is improving so much and be the leader and carrying AT alone. Before 2023 season start, people talking about Vries gonna be the leader. Vries him self looks so confident and he think he gonna full swipe Tsunoda this year.
Clearly the most overrated driver this year. I also think that Tsunoda can have more years in F1 if he keep this performance.
He set the bar high when he raced in Monza 2022. People hoped he would be the same but it was like a one time wonder sort of thing
tbf, maybe that car was easier for him to drive too.
It didn’t help that he was being compared to Latifi, rather than Yuki. One was the worst driver we’ve had this decade, and the other is a prodigy who is having his best season yet.
I honestly thought he would be a lot better than he's shown and Tsunoda has upped his game this year and Marko wont hesitate to replace him if he keeps on crashing with a certain F1 driver with 8 wins
No Ricciardo will never drive for AT, the AT seats are for young blood not to help Ricciardo to come back. Plus Ricciardo said no to Haas i cant imagine him saying yes to AT. Mick is a better option than Ricciardo or a new driver from the RB academy for 2024 maybe.
@@Deatgodx mick is more suited for williams once lewis retires and albon moves to Mercedes(mercedes directly will be a no brainer). Or audi as they prefer a German driver. Riccardo would be great for Anderetti cadillac.
I didn't understand all the fuzz around his GP in Monza last year.
If the wiliams had to perform well it was on that track, the wiliams was known for high top speed.
He did a job good but nothing crazy to me.
About this year, Yuki is doing very well, but he had so many stupid crashes before even with team mate, Nick is far to be at that level mistakes.
He will get experience, it's just that weird thing from Helmut that bothers me, to promisse things then put pressure on young pilots when they make mistakes, you need to give them a chance.
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under the eye of helmut marko! I see what you did there
I didn't have super high expectations for him, but I did expect him to atleast he a decent driver in F1. Now it's very early to tell because there's only been 4 races out of 23. I believe he will get better as the season goes, hopefully.
Yes, he will. Now they're returning Europe where Nyck raced most of times in his carrier.
Doesn’t give formula e a good look either, seeing as he’s a world champion in that category
As always Aldas a good video! True, RD don't have a lot of patience with drivers but why should they when there are a lot of drivers out there and no enough teams in F1.
I honestly think that after Gasly, RedBull changed their ways with dropping drivers. They didn't drop Yuki even though he made many mistakes, be far off from his teammate, etc.. So I think they'll hold onto Nyck for atleast this season and next season as well. Nyck is one of those drivers like Ricciardo, Bottas, and Checo where they're in between the experienced and the younger talent. He worked so hard and was so unlucky to not get a sat right after f2 like most drivers who performed as well as him would have. Therefore, of course there's more pressure for him. He waited years to get into f1 and everyone knew he had the talent. Especially with RedBull's past of dropping people, there's a lot on his plate. Let him braethe and just give it time. He'll improve
Debris bros......I don't feel so good...
I feel like a lot of people were excited by De Vries' points finish for Williams at Monza, but what people didn't realise is that Albon had been getting points all season for Williams, so if he'd been driving that day I bet he would've done the same or even better. I was surprised at first by the whole thing but when I thought about it, it wasn't impressive at all. As well as this, Monza is very advantageous to the cars with better straight line speed, which Williams have been good at recently with their cars set up for less drag. He's got expectations of being this incredible talent, when in reality he isn't, hasn't been and probably won't be. Just my thoughts at least.
It’s easy to look like a god among men when you’re racing Latifi. He made the Williams look much, much worse than it really was.
I didn't like him until he just posted a topless picture on Instagram.
Great video, with a lot of facts, unfortunately for De Vries. Like you said, it takes one great race ( like Monza last season) and things will look much different. That's the upside of those long long seasons. If he scores points in the last 6 races, nobody will mention that first 17. 😅
Its still early days. Remember last year after 4 races people where calling carlos washed and no chance hes gonna do well?
to be fair this beginning of the season is about what I expected from de vries, but he somehow is making it look worse lol
I don't know what you're taking about. Mazepin had a great start to 2021. He made it, what... to like Turn 4 of Bahrain before just losing it completely for absolutely no reason and spectacularly slamming into the wall... That was a great start. He got the car onto screen, then was out of everyone else's way almost as fast as literally possible.
Williams was the team for de Vries, not AlphaTauri's pressure cooker with Lawson and Iwasa in the background
Well you was right for everything but who'd replace him lol. Why you expected someone other than Riccy replacing him will remain a mystery.
danny ric is the right option from those 2. The problem of AlphaTauri is that the team currently need someone similar to Gasly (consistent point scorer) which Nyck is not. The worse part is if take 1 out of those 2 youngsters now, then is an idiotic decision already actually
I always forget he's not 22 but 27 already
He's experiencing his rookie season in arguably the worst car on the grid in an era where the cars are way harder to drive than the last two eras. He's going to struggle. He's doing worse than anyone expected sure, but his struggles shouldn't be that shocking really. Keep in mind, when he scored points for Williams he was driving a salvageable car. The AlphaTauri only looks decent because Tsunoda has the experience to make it LOOK that way, and even then he can't get a points finish without chaos happening. De Vries, like the rest of the rookie class, is going to need time to learn and we as fans need to be patient with him. He scored points on debut last season with little luck at play; he deserves to be here and he'll soon figure it out and once again prove that.
Also, it's worth mentioning that before being picked up by AT, de Vries was set for a Formula E drive with Maserati and a WEC seat at Toyota. I bet he's currently ruining turning that down right now.
Next 3 races (imola, monaco, Spain) are all tracks he raced before, so after the next tripple header there are no more excuses
My only disagreement is ... well, teeny disagreement is that Mazespin was far more of a p**ck than I expected, making the comparison rather mean, as Nyck still seems like a decent guy.
When it comes to performance alone however, can't disagree, including on the other drivers mentioned. Of course, having those higher expectations puts a lot more pressure, but we saw from Lewis [as the most high profile] that deserved expectations can be met by "rookies".
The way he has been hyped, the way he treated Tsunoda, the way he acted like he was going to carry the team...
...nice guy? Think again 😂
Nick was talking about himself like the next big shit and that's what bugs me, Yuki on the other hand has displayed consistency this season
My guess is he relied a lot on the support network at Mercedes and would likely have done better had he been at Williams this season. Red Bull/Alpha Tauri is an absolute pressure cooker by comparison.
I think we'd be having a different conversation about De Vries if he went to Williams instead. It's also an absolute make or break year for Tsunoda, whereas Albon has nothing to prove and has been excellent for Williams.
Now we know why Merc and William don't want to sign him.
doesn't help his case that yuki is flying at the moment.
This aged well
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt to at least race 10 because despite the hype and the experience, he's still a rookie F1 driver in his first *hopefully full season. He is however at the literal worst team to not be showing some improvement because RB is well known to cut drivers off at the knees if they aren't performing. At 27 years of age, this is it. You kind of want to cue up Eminem's "Lose Yourself" for him because that's what this is, it's do or die.
De Vries has a record of coming into a new car/team/class and having a really bad first season, then coming back with a vengeance the next. His time in formula e is a good example. In short, it's not good, but he definitely needs some time.
That was Mick also 😮
4 out of 5 circuits so far have been (semi) street circuits. Coming from much smaller formula E cars it’s probably gonna take a bit of time to get used to it. I’d like to see what he can do on more traditional circuits like Monza where he did a great job.
Exactly, it takes time to learn the car, even after his other racing experiences in Formula E, that is a whole different world.
Its his first season in F1, just give him some time and watch him improve.
I like Nyck but I did question the decision for alpha tauri to pick him up. I was expecting the seat to go to Lawson or maybe even someone who is a bit more of a known quantity.
If Yuki hasn't been given the 🥾 I don't see why they would give Nick..in the latter part of last season Yuki started to perform and even this season has been a lil rocky..plus how good is the car ?
you cant even compare de vries to mazepin one worked his way in the other bought a seat and was 20+ sec behind his teammate in races
I think f1 has a big problem with signing rookies before theyre ready. Everyone wants to get their hands on the next Vettel or Verstappen but truth is even if these kids sore in f2 oe gp2 or w.e, most of them cant swim with the big fish in f1 yet
Nyck is neither a kid nor a rookie though. He looks young, but the dude is 28 years old and is basically a veteran in the racing world.
imagine having 2 japanese drivers in the same team in f1
I'm neither for or against De Vries, but lets look at the fact that the alpha Tauri is an awful car, his P9 at Monza in the Williams was a fluke due to the otherwise awful Williams having good straight line speed (a big plus at Monza), and beating a teammate as bad as Latifi isn't much of a measure of talent. I suspect there is a reason he's 28 and just coming into F1...he's not good enough.
Its sad to see a F2 & Formula E champion & world champion struggling like he is
"Under the eye of Helmut..." Lmao
Wonder how different Monza onward would have played out for Nyck if he had subbed for Latifi instead of Albon
That got me thinking: what if DEV bags 2 big points finishes (maybe 6th & 7th) and outscored TSU like that one year LAT outscored RUS? Because it is very much possible given there are only 2 points that AT can realistically fight for every weekend.
he is simply living up to the De Bris family name
Imagine an Japanese line up for the team honda will be kicking themselves even more 😂
We're not going to get to any proper decision about De Vries if he keeps having incidents.
Did you and PERSpective both plan to drop a vid on Nyck on the same day
He’s 27?! Damn.
I'm just enjoying the lad Yuki absolutely mopping the floor with Nyck
Last year, he drove the car with the highest straight line speed beside redbull on a piss easy track that has the highest straight line content, failed to pull away and was attacked by another rookie in the slowest straight line car, got a safety car finish when his tire ran out and was about to be overtaken by Zhou. He also got some nice word from max being compatriots. So there was nothing too impressive there last year if you really calm down and think about it. Therefore we shouldn’t be too surprised to see him not performing in a slow car.
He deserves more time to settle in and adapt to the car.
He was quicker than Latifi to create a Meme: Nyck Debris
Pretty certain helmut is making sure devries car is worse, the guy is corrupt as fuck and hates when any driver outside his programme gets a seat cos it makes him look redundant. Explain how Nyck could’ve fallen off so much after his titles in other categories and strong showing in Monza last year. Bit far fetched on its own but when u consider the red bull set up is the dirtiest thing to touch F1 then yh it’s possible
1. In his F2 championship his main rival was Latifi.
2. His FE championship was due to a shitty qualifying system. In 22' where they fixed the qualifying system he was destroyed by Vandoorne in equal machinery.
3. Monza was the 1 track that really suited the Williams car, due to the long straights, and low downforce.
Nyck's stats look good in a Wikipedia page, but when you dissect the context it makes sense why he has been shit in his AlphaTauri stint.
Also what would Helmut gain from sabotaging De Vries? If it was to give Iwasa or Lawson the seat then they would of given either one them Gasly's seat last year anyways. Pierre already spil the beans in the paddock that he was moving to Alpine by Monza. So if super license points were a consern, they could of given 7 FP1 sessions from Monza to Abu Dhabi ti either Lawson or Iwasa. If it was to get Danny Ric a seat then why did Helmut straight up admit that Daniel isn't getting the AlphaTauri seat? If it was to keep Yuki, then Nicholas Latifi was available. Latifi would a safe bet that Yuki can beat him and in bonus you get a Sofina sponsorship. If it was to straight up ruin Nyck's career, then why would Red Bull of all teams would want to potentially anger the Orange Army, one of their biggest customers, by sabotaging their fellow countryman just to ruin his carrer?
Helmut is the one who got DeVries, in spite of Christian Horner advising against it...
if no improvement at half year Nyckita out, RIC in
Maybe there's a reason he wasn't in F1 for this long.
He won F2 that had a bang average driver line up and plus he won it a few years into his F2 career.
But Nick will replace checo according to some…
That's a horrible plan😭😭...and unlikely
WE ARE ONLY 4. RACES. DEEP. INTO. THIS. SEASON!
Would everybody just chill? Let the guy get comfortable.
I’ve watched ALOT of Formula E and I am not surprised at all the DeVries is struggling.
Im really dissapointed in de vries. He’s a really weird case.
Truth is Most who Enter F1 don't See the Podium ever again.
Why would this Rookie be the Exception?
The problem is that so many drivers nowadays get judged by their personality. I am not sure if this also effects the decisions of the teams all that much but at least for the fans goes that they are more interested in someone being a ''nice guy'' instead of judging by performance. Take Vettel or Perez for example. Specially Vettel has really had and endless run of fans giving him the benefit of the doubt. Perez is performing as an excellent 2nd driver, like Barrichello, Coulthard or Irvine or names like that. But somehow fans see a real champion in him. Why !? While Stroll is seen as a pay driver that has no business in F1 !? Its all way to sentimental. Are we looking for the best drivers in the world or just drivers with a really nice personality? I am Dutch and have always followed the new about De Vries and already 3-4 years ago I was saying he would not reach F1 since it took to much time to impress. But here he is anyway. I am 100% sure there is a list of drivers that would have deserved that seat more. But everyone will hate me for saying this since De Vries is such a ''nice guy'' 😆
Perez is having one of his best seasons this year tho, I do agree with you partially. The reality is that if you don’t have the money AND talent you can’t get into f1, and to bring in money you have to be marketable on the track and off the track, it’s a job setting that’s very hard and unforgiving with only 20 spots available, and the sport really can’t just chuck someone with proven talent, vettel is a 4 time world champion with experience, and he’s an experienced driver overall, there are other things behind the scenes that us fans may not see that makes drivers so great, feedback being one thing that comes to my mind
He is simply trying too hard to show too much. He needs to take a step back and just get a decent result even if it means driving cautious
The age comment about the ceiling isn't so accurate when you look at Alonso yea he's been a wdc before but the RB makes it impossible for anyone else to get it atm lol
OK. Let's put it that way. AT is a fashion brand, so they can't afford 2 short drivers. And Nyck's taller than Yuki. We don't know which one to be replaced yet
Car is a shitbox. Tsunoda is actually flattering that car
If it was halfway through the season, I’d say it’s a fair assessment but it’s only the fourth race in a young season
I think its time AlphaTauri put Liam Lawson in that car.
While I think he’s underperformed. I think saying there was no real hype around him before the Williams Monza outing is incorrect. Being a karting driver when he was in karting, everyone knew who he was. He dominated races in Europe and was widely considered the next best prospect at the time. Within the racing community we all knew who he was and what he was capable of even through junior formula.
I also saw some people making the argument that Monza is an east track to debut on, is completely incorrect. Qualifying and consistency in Monza is extremely difficult. You almost need 2 or 3 laps to really get into the braking rhythm. As well as the lack of corners make each corner exit even more important. It’s one of those tracks that seems east but it’s actually quite tricky to extract lap time out of.
Honda would really love to have two japanese drivers in the team