it's not a shawnzy video if there isnt any sort of correction in the comments lol.................. Ok as some has pointed out, for thunder build, it is better to go with zinogre boots instead of tobi chest. We can then use rathalos chest for wex 2!
Wouldn't you be better off with a crit 2 from the Kulu grieves? WE only procs an affinity boost when hitting a weak spot and Dual Blades aren't necessarily what you would call a "precise weapon".
@HellBound1986 we're comparing burst 5 wex2 right? And you're saying it's better to use crit 2 kulu greaves. Because wex only works at weak spot. Hence I replied that rathian vambraces comes with lock on. Wex isn't a problem.
Someone on ran the numbers on reddit and showed the burst 5 build is best no matter which element you are running. Now i'm taking their word for it, but it might be worth exploring. Keep up the great work Shawnzy!
@@edwinsantiago4278 basically burst give % stats while elemental only flat stats (unlike in rise that also give % at lvl 3) also there's no Element Exploit skill nor critical element yet
This was hilarious couldnt stop laughing. Great informative video too. I'm in the process of completing my Burst 5 build and getting G6 black diablos dual blades. Can't wait.
Hey nice Video. Wouldnt it be a bit better for the thunder set if we would use the Zinogre Boots instead of the kadachi chest? so we can use the Rathalos Chest instead and we would get Burst 1 from the Zinogre Legs instead of Evade Extender from Kadachi chest.
Nice alternate build! With zino boots maybe we can then use rathalos chest for wex! That works too! In fact, that is probably a better build!. Thanks for sharing dude!
Hello, i'm a new player to MHN and i really love dual blades. Do you think elemental builds need a critical eye or critical boost? Plus what's the difference between eye and boost?
Hello. It's gonna be a long reply so strap in. Affinity = chance to deal critical dmg. By default positive crit = extra 25% dmg and negative crit = -25% dmg. So if you have 10% affinity, you have 10% chance every hit to deal 125% dmg. Crit boost increases this extra 25% bonus dmg. For elemental weapons, prioritize elemental attack 5(e.g fire attack 5, ice attack 5 etc) first because at lv 5, you get a bonus of 500 dmg, 100% of the time! Btw the elemental value of your weapon only kicks in when you're against a monster weak to that element. I.e 100 raw + 200 ice = 300 against monsters weak to ice. Same weapon = 100 attack only, against monsters that aren't weak to ice. I would suggest to focus on getting elemental 5 first and next focus on increasing your affinity with skill such as weakness exploit, crit eye, latent power. You don't need them all, just whatever works for you.
@@shawnzyplays Thank you so much! 😁 and i got a wrong build. Base on your build tutorial i think i won't get the same damage for my thunder ele. I got zinogre helm, tobi vest, rath vembraces, tobi coil and zinogre boots and i almost spend a zenny and mats to lvl up them. Thanks again. 😁
ah i cant really suggest since everyone has different preference. every raw weapon is viable. I would suggest that you give every weapon a go to see which playstyle suits you best. Then main that weapon. For me, i main the bow but it doesnt mean that bow would be suitable for you. You gotta give it a go first. ------- ok im not sure if im reading it right. Or did you mean which raw dual blades do i recommend? If thats the case, i'd say diablos would be ok. sorry because there are multiple times when people's comments were not relevant to the actual video itself...
crit is good but sometimes flat dmg is better. crit is a chance to deal extra 25% dmg. its good if your weapon attack is high. Else other skills may be better. For example if you're using elemental weapon, element attack 5 gives you 500 attack, 100% of the time. compared to crit which gives u extra 25%... x% of the time.
3:55 i was trying to do the math today on a raw build comparing standard diablos and kulu db. i'm not sure how affinity plays together with critical eye effect, but ... at G8.1 a standard diablos DB has 1153 attack points. a kulu has 945 and affinity 25%. critical damage is 125% so thats 945+(945*0.25*1.25)= 1240 attack points. or do i get something wrong? that said, thanks for this as all your videos, all helping me a lot to understand the basic weapon mechanics!
Yeah it should be 945+(945*0.25crit chance*0.25 crit dmg). Cant use 1.25 since u already used 945 at the beginning. Also thanks for watching my vids. Especially since it could be really cringey at times haha
Yeah I wish demon mode activation was on hold so you could turn it on and off without having to use your special if it's charged. I also wish you could use your special without being in demon mode because if you use it at the beginning it's a waste of stamina and using it at the end can cause a miss or just feel bad due to having a full special bar trying to time it out with the end of your demon stamina. I also feel like it was a missed opportunity to not have arch demon mode so when you run out of demon meter you don't just feel bad waiting for your stamina to fill up with weaker slower attacks. Lastly I wish you could prolong demon mode indefinitely like the main line games by dodging or continuing your combo. I know you can temporarily do it with a regular combo but I think you should be able to dodge to keep it going.
All sleep weapons are decent!. I think of it as another weapon much like para. While yes you can wait for it to fall asleep, there's just too much waiting time to set up for that 1 big hit. I rather just continue to hit it while it's falling asleep. During the galling asleep and waking animation, there's quite a lot of time to hit it. However!!! Whatever I've just said is only based on some videos I've watched. It's not like in main game where it is so easy to craft weapons. The resources are hard to come by in this game. New vids will take a while!
For sure. If youre farming and means you're comfortable hunting that level's monster so you don't need the wex. However, if you noticed that you don't break additional parts, and yet able to clear hunts comfortably, maybe you can go with Legi chest for 2x divine blessing
I was thinking of trying a concentration + special boost build. Lumu helm, Anja chest, Anja belt, Rathian gloves, and Banbaro grieves, which will give concentration 2, special boost 3, divine blessing 1, windproof 1, burst 2, and lock on. Not sure how viable it is, since I lose a lot of crit, but am curious whether that would work. If I can hit 3 specials in a fight, then it's worth it, since the special does a hefty amount of damage. I will need to hunt a lot more Diablos to check viability though, as my Diablos DB is at grade 5 and almost every monster that spawns for me is 8*. I'll report back when I get all my gear to grade 6 and DB to grade 7, which is probably going to take a while, because my paralysis build is kind of useless against 8*s.
One time I accidentally performed some kind of forward moving perfect dodge with DB that also simultaneously activated demon mode and I have not been able to replicate it since. How did I do it and what’s that mechanic?
so you're saying that you were not in demon mode, did a perfect evade by moving forward and got into demon mode while doing that. Not sure dude, ive never heard of this ..
@@shawnzyplays I tapped the demon mode button around the same window that you would perform a perfect dodge and I got a perfect dodge animation that I’ve never gotten before. Like I said, it was a weird forward moving perfect dodge attack that happened right after I tapped the demon mode button.
It's a good skill. Have yet to test if it affects only raw or both raw and elemental. However, I feel that it is not consistent unless you are ALWAYS perfect evading in demon mode. I prefer something that is more consistent. Like burst.
Armour set crafting is fluid! Whatever you don't have atm, just use something else that suits your playstyle first! Maybe not paolumu since you're already so mobile. But if you're new to db and just want to mess around with it for now, go with paolumu till you are more familiar with the weapon.
@@shawnzyplays Thanks for the reply! After I left the comment I checked the game and I saw that I could also use normal Rathian waist to get Burst 1 at least or Diablos one for partbreaker.
The difference between thunder 4 and 5 is 150 thunder attack. Burst 4 gives 20% bonus to only the raw part. So let's calculate to see if it is worth sacrificing 150 attack for 20% raw bonus. 150/ 0.2 = 750. If the raw part of your weapon is above 750, then the bonus from burst 4 would be more than the bonus you get for 1 lv of thunder from 4 to 5.
Question if you don’t mind Isit worth upgrade the armor to grade 6-7 even tho I don’t need the 2nd layer skill Like I just need the thunder element but I don’t need earplug
hello! the builds are ever changing with the release of new monsters. For the latest build, check this video out th-cam.com/video/4mdV69ACAvo/w-d-xo.html
gl is fine to help you push the difficulty level up, but there should be a point where you think whether you want to continue with that boring weapon or go with something that you fancy. :D
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it's not a shawnzy video if there isnt any sort of correction in the comments lol..................
Ok as some has pointed out, for thunder build, it is better to go with zinogre boots instead of tobi chest. We can then use rathalos chest for wex 2!
Wouldn't you be better off with a crit 2 from the Kulu grieves? WE only procs an affinity boost when hitting a weak spot and Dual Blades aren't necessarily what you would call a "precise weapon".
@@HellBound1986 there's lock on with Burst on rathian gloves tho
@@shawnzyplays grieves are the pants, vambraces are the gloves.
@HellBound1986 we're comparing burst 5 wex2 right? And you're saying it's better to use crit 2 kulu greaves. Because wex only works at weak spot.
Hence I replied that rathian vambraces comes with lock on. Wex isn't a problem.
@@shawnzyplays I meant use toby chest and Kulu grieves with Rathian gloves
2 piece combo + thai back massage + monster hunter = perfect day
+ happy ending too???? I mean, to break off tails/head. And by head I mean monster's head. And by that I mean the actual monster's head.
Oddly specific...
Someone on ran the numbers on reddit and showed the burst 5 build is best no matter which element you are running. Now i'm taking their word for it, but it might be worth exploring. Keep up the great work Shawnzy!
Burst 5? Is that different than the element?
@@edwinsantiago4278 basically burst give % stats while elemental only flat stats (unlike in rise that also give % at lvl 3)
also there's no Element Exploit skill nor critical element yet
This was hilarious couldnt stop laughing. Great informative video too. I'm in the process of completing my Burst 5 build and getting G6 black diablos dual blades. Can't wait.
just take note that there is a slightly longer commitment to your attacks as compared to a sns so dont go crazy and tap your phone non stop ok.
@@shawnzyplays yes I found out the hard way lol.
My fav MHnow weapons so far!
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Really enjoy the content and loving MHnow, this is my favorite weapon
Hey nice Video. Wouldnt it be a bit better for the thunder set if we would use the Zinogre Boots instead of the kadachi chest? so we can use the Rathalos Chest instead and we would get Burst 1 from the Zinogre Legs instead of Evade Extender from Kadachi chest.
Nice alternate build! With zino boots maybe we can then use rathalos chest for wex! That works too!
In fact, that is probably a better build!. Thanks for sharing dude!
Hello, i'm a new player to MHN and i really love dual blades. Do you think elemental builds need a critical eye or critical boost? Plus what's the difference between eye and boost?
Hello. It's gonna be a long reply so strap in.
Affinity = chance to deal critical dmg. By default positive crit = extra 25% dmg and negative crit = -25% dmg.
So if you have 10% affinity, you have 10% chance every hit to deal 125% dmg.
Crit boost increases this extra 25% bonus dmg.
For elemental weapons, prioritize elemental attack 5(e.g fire attack 5, ice attack 5 etc) first because at lv 5, you get a bonus of 500 dmg, 100% of the time!
Btw the elemental value of your weapon only kicks in when you're against a monster weak to that element.
I.e 100 raw + 200 ice = 300 against monsters weak to ice.
Same weapon = 100 attack only, against monsters that aren't weak to ice.
I would suggest to focus on getting elemental 5 first and next focus on increasing your affinity with skill such as weakness exploit, crit eye, latent power. You don't need them all, just whatever works for you.
@@shawnzyplays Thank you so much! 😁 and i got a wrong build. Base on your build tutorial i think i won't get the same damage for my thunder ele. I got zinogre helm, tobi vest, rath vembraces, tobi coil and zinogre boots and i almost spend a zenny and mats to lvl up them. Thanks again. 😁
For the raw build, what weapons would you suggest?
ah i cant really suggest since everyone has different preference. every raw weapon is viable. I would suggest that you give every weapon a go to see which playstyle suits you best. Then main that weapon.
For me, i main the bow but it doesnt mean that bow would be suitable for you. You gotta give it a go first.
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ok im not sure if im reading it right. Or did you mean which raw dual blades do i recommend? If thats the case, i'd say diablos would be ok.
sorry because there are multiple times when people's comments were not relevant to the actual video itself...
For thunder build, how about swap the chest with Rathalos Chest for WE2, and swap the boots with Zinogre Boots for thunder att 1 and another Burst 1 ?
Yes this is a better build! Thanks for sharing!
Iam around lvl50 now and i had started to go much crit as possible. but like no guide i see use this, isnt that so recommended?
crit is good but sometimes flat dmg is better. crit is a chance to deal extra 25% dmg. its good if your weapon attack is high. Else other skills may be better.
For example if you're using elemental weapon, element attack 5 gives you 500 attack, 100% of the time. compared to crit which gives u extra 25%... x% of the time.
3:55 i was trying to do the math today on a raw build comparing standard diablos and kulu db. i'm not sure how affinity plays together with critical eye effect, but ... at G8.1 a standard diablos DB has 1153 attack points. a kulu has 945 and affinity 25%. critical damage is 125% so thats 945+(945*0.25*1.25)= 1240 attack points. or do i get something wrong?
that said, thanks for this as all your videos, all helping me a lot to understand the basic weapon mechanics!
Yeah it should be 945+(945*0.25crit chance*0.25 crit dmg). Cant use 1.25 since u already used 945 at the beginning.
Also thanks for watching my vids. Especially since it could be really cringey at times haha
Am I right to say that DB is the only weapon so far that has no use on hold button? Like Sword Shield to block, Light Bow Gun to continue shooting
Yeah nothing for db
Yeah I wish demon mode activation was on hold so you could turn it on and off without having to use your special if it's charged. I also wish you could use your special without being in demon mode because if you use it at the beginning it's a waste of stamina and using it at the end can cause a miss or just feel bad due to having a full special bar trying to time it out with the end of your demon stamina. I also feel like it was a missed opportunity to not have arch demon mode so when you run out of demon meter you don't just feel bad waiting for your stamina to fill up with weaker slower attacks. Lastly I wish you could prolong demon mode indefinitely like the main line games by dodging or continuing your combo. I know you can temporarily do it with a regular combo but I think you should be able to dodge to keep it going.
Can you show some builds for the new sleep element? Is the sleep hammer good?
All sleep weapons are decent!. I think of it as another weapon much like para.
While yes you can wait for it to fall asleep, there's just too much waiting time to set up for that 1 big hit. I rather just continue to hit it while it's falling asleep. During the galling asleep and waking animation, there's quite a lot of time to hit it.
However!!! Whatever I've just said is only based on some videos I've watched. It's not like in main game where it is so easy to craft weapons. The resources are hard to come by in this game.
New vids will take a while!
Was wondering if Banbaro Mail(Chest) is viable for Burst 5 build, especially for Concentration and Partbreaker(G6) for farming purpose. :V
For sure. If youre farming and means you're comfortable hunting that level's monster so you don't need the wex. However, if you noticed that you don't break additional parts, and yet able to clear hunts comfortably, maybe you can go with Legi chest for 2x divine blessing
I was thinking of trying a concentration + special boost build. Lumu helm, Anja chest, Anja belt, Rathian gloves, and Banbaro grieves, which will give concentration 2, special boost 3, divine blessing 1, windproof 1, burst 2, and lock on. Not sure how viable it is, since I lose a lot of crit, but am curious whether that would work. If I can hit 3 specials in a fight, then it's worth it, since the special does a hefty amount of damage.
I will need to hunt a lot more Diablos to check viability though, as my Diablos DB is at grade 5 and almost every monster that spawns for me is 8*. I'll report back when I get all my gear to grade 6 and DB to grade 7, which is probably going to take a while, because my paralysis build is kind of useless against 8*s.
The fun of it is to try out the diff builds
What do you think about special boost 5 + skyward striker 2 for dualblade special
Not very feasible tho. Unless you drop some special boost and add in some levels of concentration?
@@shawnzyplays paolumu gloves gives you concentration 2
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Shanny has been deported back to Mars
@@shawnzyplays damnit. i’ll marry her give her green card
@@monsterhunternowsg there's no green card in our country. You're not american!!
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One time I accidentally performed some kind of forward moving perfect dodge with DB that also simultaneously activated demon mode and I have not been able to replicate it since. How did I do it and what’s that mechanic?
so you're saying that you were not in demon mode, did a perfect evade by moving forward and got into demon mode while doing that.
Not sure dude, ive never heard of this ..
@@shawnzyplays I tapped the demon mode button around the same window that you would perform a perfect dodge and I got a perfect dodge animation that I’ve never gotten before. Like I said, it was a weird forward moving perfect dodge attack that happened right after I tapped the demon mode button.
For the water build, what would you recommend for the coil until pink Rath comes back because I wasn't strong enough when pink Rath was on event
Hmmmm perhaps jagras ?
@@shawnzyplays thanks
What do you think about the new skill Skyward Striker, Shawnzy-senpai?
It's a good skill. Have yet to test if it affects only raw or both raw and elemental. However, I feel that it is not consistent unless you are ALWAYS perfect evading in demon mode. I prefer something that is more consistent. Like burst.
@@shawnzyplaysif u build it, can test if it affects sns and ls?
So I can't get Pink Rathian waist, Banbaro or Paolumu waist could be good replacements until I get the BIS?
Armour set crafting is fluid! Whatever you don't have atm, just use something else that suits your playstyle first!
Maybe not paolumu since you're already so mobile. But if you're new to db and just want to mess around with it for now, go with paolumu till you are more familiar with the weapon.
@@shawnzyplays Thanks for the reply!
After I left the comment I checked the game and I saw that I could also use normal Rathian waist to get Burst 1 at least or Diablos one for partbreaker.
@@santiagoperalta4258 that works of you're using raw since burst only buffs the raw attack of the weapon!
Would it be worth it to go for thunder 4 and burst 4?🤔
The difference between thunder 4 and 5 is 150 thunder attack.
Burst 4 gives 20% bonus to only the raw part.
So let's calculate to see if it is worth sacrificing 150 attack for 20% raw bonus.
150/ 0.2 = 750. If the raw part of your weapon is above 750, then the bonus from burst 4 would be more than the bonus you get for 1 lv of thunder from 4 to 5.
@@shawnzyplays Thank you! ❤️😭😭🙏 It doesn‘t seem to be worth it🥲 Thunder 5 🫱🏻🫲🏼
@@aeoncalcos6082 could be worth it at much higher levels. But I'd rather just go for thunder 5 burst 1 and crit for remaining slots(if any)
Wondering for ice DB, which one deal more dmg is it Legiana or Barioth weapon?
Legiana! U can do the comparison in mhn.quest. barioth weapons seem to be a trap
@@shawnzyplaysI checked and the only weapon set Barioth benefits is hammer due to it being the only ice hammer.
Question if you don’t mind
Isit worth upgrade the armor to grade 6-7 even tho I don’t need the 2nd layer skill
Like I just need the thunder element but I don’t need earplug
After u farmed ur weapons and armor until u lack only r6 gems and If u have the materials, why not
in the long run, once you have settled on your build, i think it is worth getting it up to 7-5.
@@pspiso123 true
@@shawnzyplays okok thanks
I’ve heard DB are kinda overpowered. Is this true?
Any weapon is powerful in the right hands!
For Ice wouldnt better use Legiana Helm and Rathalos chest?
You could! Yeah. Personally I'm just a huge sucker for lock on. Haha
@@shawnzyplays what do you think about back dmg build for DB?
@@aronricardo9319like sneak attack? yeah thats decent too. Just make sure you beyblade yourself to the side-ish area!
conflicted to put lock on, on the build... the reach of this weapon so low... most of the time, it wouldn't hit....
ya tbh lock on is such a huge QOL to me that i almost always use it for my melee builds.
yeah me too. but when I use it on my dual blades. a lot just miss
oh yeah. Btw, I think for the lightning build if you have lock on... isn't zino graves and rath armor better? i mean you got WEx and Burst
@njhebr yeah it's my bad on that. Someone pointed that out too!
Dunno when will bdiablos and p rathian be back again
Soon! 3rd week of Dec to maybe 8 Jan or something.
Love the drumsticks lol
I really enjoying it, but it looks like it do less damage then my long sword, i don't know if its just me
Are both weapons at the same grade?
Firm foothold and divine blessing is a no dodge build.
Legiana dual swords
Jagras helm
Legiana chest
Rathian vambraces
Banbaro coil
Kulu legs
😅
You seem to know a great deal about happy ending. Please teach me master
Ok first you attack the monster until it had about 5% hp and then you use your special attack.
fire build gets no lockon?
hello! the builds are ever changing with the release of new monsters. For the latest build, check this video out th-cam.com/video/4mdV69ACAvo/w-d-xo.html
I want to use this weapon, but they made gunlance so op that I cant get used to any other weapon
gl is fine to help you push the difficulty level up, but there should be a point where you think whether you want to continue with that boring weapon or go with something that you fancy. :D
@@shawnzyplays thanks for the advice
bring back the grill~
Sometimes i feel aim on is better for do some Perfect evades
"Much like your girlfriend on her period, demon mode changes your hunter from a sweet person to a monster." Nice comparison brother! 🤣😂🤣😂
LOL!!! DIED at this
True story bro
this saying did make me worried you won't get another dubbing next time bro
@@bluecooler i used the voice changer in capcut for that!
If you only know how grossly inappropriate this is. 😂 Girls play this game too, you know.
you do demon mode .. swipe swipe swipe swipe LOL!
Who else plays the dual blade like a bayblade? Activate demon mode and just spam dodge lmao. Spin to win
Monster be like "why are you running? Why are you running!!?"
Not a happy ending for the monster 😅