People who say you are bad.... Are actually proving why this data is the best. Not to insult you though, but this offers a good average for your average player. Imagine if a pro did this, itd be way different!
Ikr?! Like, seriously, it isn’t like the top players in the world get 1st 100% of the time. The more tests one does, the more accurate the average will be
I was going to comment this same thing. It would be so much harder for a top player to rank these because they would base the ranking off of how hard the tracks are for the strats they try to do and we’d end up with like DK Jungle in the top 10 I think
I feel like the reason why you get worse results on many Mario kart tour games isn't because they're hard but because most of them are genuinely terribly designed
Anyone that complains someone isn't good at the game when they went through the effort to play that much for a single video, is petty and ungrateful, enough said. I enjoy the effort you put into these videos. Great time tuning in.
LOL appreciate it and thanks for the comment. It doesn't bother me though, anyone that puts themselves out there is gonna get shit on in some regard. I could have made the video with all my best races, but it would hardly prove anything...especially about a video that's discusses the hardest cups and why. Trying to prove I'm some pro or what not is never the point, but I'm glad there's people out there that appreciate it regardless of the apparent 'skill level' so thank you
I had this feeling several times too, first I grinded the gold parts, then I played through every track in the game for my series, some several times as I forgot about the challenge while doing it
I feel like Moonview Highway is so easy now because of how hard it was in Wii. Like it just felt like the roads were packed with cars and so many of them would be hidden behind other ones making you make sharp turns while blind to the oncoming traffic ready to flatten you. So I think they toned down the traffic patterns, which really opens up the turns and makes the track a lot easier.
People who think you suck at driving have way too much of a high horse of themselves. Its mario kart and 50 races on any track are bound to get you some low finishes. Great video admire the dedication
12:26 in 200cc you can outpace the blue shell. You need to keep boosting your speed by drifting or using mushrooms (which can be better used to dodge it outright) but running from a blue shell is a pretty fun thing to do
I find this interesting because it brings up the question: what does it mean for a track to be difficult? Like, maybe mushroom gorge is easy, because it has wide turns, is pretty easy to not fall off if thats your main goal, and most players who have even a basic idea of the games mechanics can win against cpus without practice. But you could also say its very difficult, because to get a decent time trial you not only need super bounces, soft drifting, and very specific alignments... but to get a trial that even begins to count then you need to gap jump. This is where you set up a specific alignment coming out of the gorge, land with a drift, activate it, then mushroom with a hop to skip the entire last turn. Thats a doosy of a tech to be functionally required. Or maybe the track is even easier than the first one thought? Because if you CAN gap jump, then any race vs cpus or similarly skilled friends will be a completely free win.
I feel VINDICATED. When i was 100% the booster course cups i was STRUGGLING so hard on the cherry cup. Glad to know someone else found it as hard as i did
Pro tip: If you’re playing on inside drift or on 200cc and have to go through consecutive turns you can cancel your mini-turbo after your drift by briefly releasing the A button for the drift to cancel and then start your next drift by releasing the left bumper and pressing it down again but you can’t cancel your drift if you have auto accelerate on
True. Same with the Double Dash Tracks. In DD DK Mountain and Waluigi Stadium were much harder to drive on, same with daisy Cruiser and Yoshi Circuit. Also Wii Rainbow Road is far too easy on MK8DX because of all those stupid railings being there that weren't existing in the Wii version (loke already the one in the forst curve and the one after the half pipe gap jump. They removed so many risks of falling down it made the track almost boring compared to Wii.
9:06 The blue shell that was circling above you actually knocked the chain chomp upwards, which is why you didn't get hit haha. It does this to most track obstacles, saving you while plotting your demise in order to be the sole reason you throw your controller. Hope this helps!
9:47 Fun fact: Dispite living in the Alpine region, in German the name of the tracks has nothing to do with the alps. It's called "Gebirgspfad" ≈ Mountainpath
Something I noticed about your driving is that you drift on every turn. If a turn isn’t that curved or long you don’t need to drift. Like at 2:41 on Choco Mountain.
@@flypengu1n515 In the example OP showed, it is much faster to initiate a right drift there, rather than splitting it into two separate drifts. The startup of the drift will swing you to left, just enough to clear the wall, and allows for a tighter turn. Starting the right drift early also lets you get a super mini-turbo, or even an ultra mini-turbo rather than just blue sparks, giving much more speed around the next straightaway! Similar turns to this one appear in DS Wario Circuit, GCN Yoshi Circuit, and 3DS Neo Bowser City, notably. Hope this helps!
It's crazy how different snes mario circuit is online from in the cup. The course is straight up chaotic online and has been one of my favorites since wii lol. Everybody is just taking shortcuts and flying around everywhere.
For me Fruit Cup was easily the hardest when I was doing them, I struggles so much more to 3 star it then any other cup. DK Summit being the main culprit, the cpus seem very good on that track. At least I really like all 4 tracks in that cup, so I didn't mind playing it a lot.
When I was 100%ing the BCP, I would always get 2nd place at any one of the propeller cup's tracks. Did abt 20 attempts until I beat it with 3 stars. After that, I proceeded to win every single race left
I FINALLY got the booster course pass for christmas, and for me, the fruit cup was the hardest, followed by the moon and rock cups. I actually beat the spiny cup first try (while only getting first), unless you count my TV disconnecting as a loss, but the fact that I beat the first half again without getting 2nd further proves that it wasn't hard for me (despite being a noob)
to me, i feel like mario kart has progressively gotten easier over the years, not because the controls have gotten smoother or i've gotten better, while those are also factors, but the turns and the tracks themselves are WAY too wide now to accommodate the 12 racers being bunched up. yet, even with all the characters in one spot of the track, there's way too much room. items are super easy to avoid and i noticed this being a problem in Wii which just got worse with 8. not to mention they put glider ramps right before any section that is meant to be a tight S bend or that has a bunch of obstacles almost every time making those sections of track pointless. a cool addition would be a glider section that you control, and have to actually conserve your glide to get through that actually doesn't have anything below you, which i think is only in maybe 3 or 4 tracks in the whole game and they're sad attempts at it as well
13:14 don't worry about doing stuff like that, when I tried mario kart 8 deluxe for the first time, I kept just drifting off, as in just forgetting I was playing mario kart and just thinking about other stuff. And even now when I have stopped doing that as often as I used to, I still keep driving straight into bananas even when I see them long in advance.
Seriously appreciate the work and effort you put into this bro, very detailed and very entertaining. Disregard anything negative anyone has said because you're passionate and put in so much effort for this so amazing work!
14:37 I can assure you 99% of people don't even know where that meme comes from. But as a Canadian, I do. Those guys are from an ad for Wiser's Whiskey. "Welcome to the Wiserhood", mo fo's!
I'm not sure if an arithmetic mean really says all that much for the ranks, since ranks are ordinally scaled. A median and/or mode might be more meaningful way of expressing track difficulty.
The hardest track in the booster course pass is sadness from airship fortress being omitted for *ANOTHER* Mario circuit. WE ALREADY HAD 4 DID WE REALLY NEED A *FIFTH?*
I think that you being bad, is what is making this experiment work. If I were to do this, most tracks would be 1.00 and this doesn’t give a good view for all the average spectators. Probs to you for doing this 50TIMES!?
i've been mostly out of the loop when it comes to mario kart ever since mario kart 8 released back in... what, was it 2014? jeez, that doesn't feel right. anyway, i've been getting back into it recently and i still haven't adjusted to sydney being in mario kart of all things. i mean, i don't live near the harbour, but there's a lot of stuff to see. it feels weird seeing places i've admired kelp and herons become a chaotic hybrid of both a road and a warzone, but in a kind of good way honestly. i feel like other than australia being upside down, constantly on fire, not real and the most hostile continent on the planet it's actually pretty obscure. like, no one lives here. i'm in a sea of crazy americans who are afraid of the letter u and think public transport is a bad thing. it's nuts. anyway this is a pretty neat video! don't think i have much smart to say after that, really
@@EpikMamu : True, but I really think Dino Dino Jungle would’ve given us some additional variety as we already had 2 DK tracks in the game. Also, Dino Dino Jungle is a really unique track. There are people who love DK Mountain, and I respect that. Still, I just would’ve prefer DDJ.
I don't know why you said Waluigi Pinball is easy. Going into that final section with the pinballs flying around is literally like walking into no man's land...
Moonview highway being at midnight where there’s no traffic is wild tell me where there’s no traffic at midnight maybe it’s just cause I grew up in a big city and then moved to Orlando where everyone (including me) works at theme parks which have 24 hr staffing and then I go home at 1am and there’s just as much traffic as when I went into work cause we’re all going home now
Interesting. I play 200cc exclusively, so I funnily enough had more trouble getting triple stars on the booster course cups at 150cc and mirror, failing over and over. But at 200cc, it was a breeze, two or three tries if needed. And you should give yourself more credit, the early Tour city tracks are heavily flawed. Downright cheap if you ask me.
People who say you are bad.... Are actually proving why this data is the best. Not to insult you though, but this offers a good average for your average player. Imagine if a pro did this, itd be way different!
Ikr?! Like, seriously, it isn’t like the top players in the world get 1st 100% of the time.
The more tests one does, the more accurate the average will be
I was going to comment this same thing. It would be so much harder for a top player to rank these because they would base the ranking off of how hard the tracks are for the strats they try to do and we’d end up with like DK Jungle in the top 10 I think
Feels kinda strange how the easiest cup in the bcp just randomly gets one of the hardest tracks in the game.
@2u29wjiowk2iswjI assume the Lucky Cat cup with Ninja Hideaway
I feel like the reason why you get worse results on many Mario kart tour games isn't because they're hard but because most of them are genuinely terribly designed
Anyone that complains someone isn't good at the game when they went through the effort to play that much for a single video, is petty and ungrateful, enough said.
I enjoy the effort you put into these videos. Great time tuning in.
LOL appreciate it and thanks for the comment. It doesn't bother me though, anyone that puts themselves out there is gonna get shit on in some regard. I could have made the video with all my best races, but it would hardly prove anything...especially about a video that's discusses the hardest cups and why. Trying to prove I'm some pro or what not is never the point, but I'm glad there's people out there that appreciate it regardless of the apparent 'skill level' so thank you
I had this feeling several times too, first I grinded the gold parts, then I played through every track in the game for my series, some several times as I forgot about the challenge while doing it
I feel like Moonview Highway is so easy now because of how hard it was in Wii. Like it just felt like the roads were packed with cars and so many of them would be hidden behind other ones making you make sharp turns while blind to the oncoming traffic ready to flatten you. So I think they toned down the traffic patterns, which really opens up the turns and makes the track a lot easier.
I do think that maybe the difficulty lowering was kinda overdone, especially when MK8’s game engine inherently makes returning tracks way easier
it’s easier because the driving and drifting is literally completely different lmao
I’d argue it’s not too hard in Wii either. I may be biased though.
People who think you suck at driving have way too much of a high horse of themselves. Its mario kart and 50 races on any track are bound to get you some low finishes. Great video admire the dedication
Can we appreciate that this guy played 2.400 tracks for this video? Thats insane
No, not if your comment is like this. Find a more creative way to compliment someone.
Isn't it funny how nobody agrees with you? @@CaptainFalcon333
@@CaptainFalcon333You go play 2400 tracks before commenting smth negative
12:26 in 200cc you can outpace the blue shell. You need to keep boosting your speed by drifting or using mushrooms (which can be better used to dodge it outright) but running from a blue shell is a pretty fun thing to do
If you try to dodge by drifting you have to be really careful as during the drifting you actually slow down enough for the shell to catch up to you
@@GwnTim1just soft drift
No you should be staying as straight as possible what are you waffling
@samuelbutler3332 soft drifting makes you turn less tight not go faster
you should be drifting, but not too sharp because you lose a lot of speed. Don't always drift though
I find this interesting because it brings up the question: what does it mean for a track to be difficult?
Like, maybe mushroom gorge is easy, because it has wide turns, is pretty easy to not fall off if thats your main goal, and most players who have even a basic idea of the games mechanics can win against cpus without practice.
But you could also say its very difficult, because to get a decent time trial you not only need super bounces, soft drifting, and very specific alignments... but to get a trial that even begins to count then you need to gap jump. This is where you set up a specific alignment coming out of the gorge, land with a drift, activate it, then mushroom with a hop to skip the entire last turn. Thats a doosy of a tech to be functionally required.
Or maybe the track is even easier than the first one thought? Because if you CAN gap jump, then any race vs cpus or similarly skilled friends will be a completely free win.
this was extremely entertaining to watch, and the amount of effort you put into this is just insane
Thank you!
I feel VINDICATED. When i was 100% the booster course cups i was STRUGGLING so hard on the cherry cup. Glad to know someone else found it as hard as i did
7:52 actually the glider shroom was added in mk7
Pro tip: If you’re playing on inside drift or on 200cc and have to go through consecutive turns you can cancel your mini-turbo after your drift by briefly releasing the A button for the drift to cancel and then start your next drift by releasing the left bumper and pressing it down again but you can’t cancel your drift if you have auto accelerate on
The blue mushroom was added in MK7, not MKTour.
The what
In mushroom gorge
@@Coolyuonh_GD oh ok
@@SuperWackoWorldon the slower path, instead of Wii’s mushroom path, 7 replaced that with a blue glider mushroom
@@Coolyuonh_GDmy favorite item, the blue mushroom
In all seriousness, I almost thought this was some elaborate joke
They seriously nerfed Moonview highway.
A lot less traffic and slower + wider road
Bro is speaking facts
True. Same with the Double Dash Tracks. In DD DK Mountain and Waluigi Stadium were much harder to drive on, same with daisy Cruiser and Yoshi Circuit.
Also Wii Rainbow Road is far too easy on MK8DX because of all those stupid railings being there that weren't existing in the Wii version (loke already the one in the forst curve and the one after the half pipe gap jump.
They removed so many risks of falling down it made the track almost boring compared to Wii.
RIGHT
this is amazing i can't imagine the amount of effort it took to make this! proud to be one of the 5 aussies watching this video
Same here!
@@ArayanhAlmesfer-dt7yhI wonder who the other 3 are (I’m a Canadian btw)
9:06 The blue shell that was circling above you actually knocked the chain chomp upwards, which is why you didn't get hit haha. It does this to most track obstacles, saving you while plotting your demise in order to be the sole reason you throw your controller.
Hope this helps!
9:47 Fun fact: Dispite living in the Alpine region, in German the name of the tracks has nothing to do with the alps. It's called "Gebirgspfad" ≈ Mountainpath
So much dedication, I can’t imagine how long this must’ve took
The racing itself took months haha
as an aussie, i fucking love this channel, keep up the good work 🫶
Something I noticed about your driving is that you drift on every turn. If a turn isn’t that curved or long you don’t need to drift. Like at 2:41 on Choco Mountain.
Why wouldn’t you for speed?
@@flypengu1n515 In the example OP showed, it is much faster to initiate a right drift there, rather than splitting it into two separate drifts. The startup of the drift will swing you to left, just enough to clear the wall, and allows for a tighter turn. Starting the right drift early also lets you get a super mini-turbo, or even an ultra mini-turbo rather than just blue sparks, giving much more speed around the next straightaway! Similar turns to this one appear in DS Wario Circuit, GCN Yoshi Circuit, and 3DS Neo Bowser City, notably.
Hope this helps!
@@mikeybud3501ik this is late but if you snake there its the same thing as a ultra mini if your using the meta combo so rlly about preference.
@@z1na401you dont snake there on 200cc lol
It's crazy how different snes mario circuit is online from in the cup. The course is straight up chaotic online and has been one of my favorites since wii lol. Everybody is just taking shortcuts and flying around everywhere.
I didn’t know they had another name for DK Summit
Ya im confused why his name for it is different
@@ChoppyThePigit’s probably smth for the British people because English UK and English US is different
@MansoorGoated Was at the very least named DK Summit for the Wii version in the UK so not sure why it would be different
For me Fruit Cup was easily the hardest when I was doing them, I struggles so much more to 3 star it then any other cup. DK Summit being the main culprit, the cpus seem very good on that track. At least I really like all 4 tracks in that cup, so I didn't mind playing it a lot.
Fruit Cup honestly might be my favorite not just in the Booster Course Pass, but in all of Mario Kart 8.
Friken Dk summit is the only reason I don’t have 3 stars in every cup in the game
Another banger video! Thanks for putting yourself through the torture to get it done!
When I was 100%ing the BCP, I would always get 2nd place at any one of the propeller cup's tracks. Did abt 20 attempts until I beat it with 3 stars. After that, I proceeded to win every single race left
I also love that mk8deluxe is the first mario kart game that can fill an entire cup with its rainbow roads
Mario Circut 3 is for us competitive racers, same as all the ovals they added for some reason.
I FINALLY got the booster course pass for christmas, and for me, the fruit cup was the hardest, followed by the moon and rock cups. I actually beat the spiny cup first try (while only getting first), unless you count my TV disconnecting as a loss, but the fact that I beat the first half again without getting 2nd further proves that it wasn't hard for me (despite being a noob)
"The DLC added not only new courses but also new characters, which is why II'm going to use none of those new characters"
you're really good at this, idk how i could ever compete
to me, i feel like mario kart has progressively gotten easier over the years, not because the controls have gotten smoother or i've gotten better, while those are also factors, but the turns and the tracks themselves are WAY too wide now to accommodate the 12 racers being bunched up. yet, even with all the characters in one spot of the track, there's way too much room. items are super easy to avoid and i noticed this being a problem in Wii which just got worse with 8.
not to mention they put glider ramps right before any section that is meant to be a tight S bend or that has a bunch of obstacles almost every time making those sections of track pointless.
a cool addition would be a glider section that you control, and have to actually conserve your glide to get through that actually doesn't have anything below you, which i think is only in maybe 3 or 4 tracks in the whole game and they're sad attempts at it as well
3:03 that is called a ninty because you turn 90 degrees. it happens when you hit a ceiling a specific way
13:14 don't worry about doing stuff like that, when I tried mario kart 8 deluxe for the first time, I kept just drifting off, as in just forgetting I was playing mario kart and just thinking about other stuff. And even now when I have stopped doing that as often as I used to, I still keep driving straight into bananas even when I see them long in advance.
Mario kart Wii was such a banger game ngl, so many good tracks
Your videos are funny and really high quality!!
As a fellow Australian I can say that it Sydney Sprint is kinda difficult on 200cc
And yes its called Alpine Pass
I was waiting for this. FINALLY
15:04 I like how Bangkok rush is one of the easiest tour tracks for you yet it’s one of my worst tracks lol
Ello Aussie here to say hi and mad respect for the 50 hours or so required to just get the footage for this video
I found the cherry cup to be quite easy.
He told us, he has a skill issue.
at least you're better than a game journalist
14:42 As one of the five Australians watching, let's rise up
Seriously appreciate the work and effort you put into this bro, very detailed and very entertaining. Disregard anything negative anyone has said because you're passionate and put in so much effort for this so amazing work!
The skill diference between the first video and this is crazy. Very well done
14:37 I can assure you 99% of people don't even know where that meme comes from. But as a Canadian, I do. Those guys are from an ad for Wiser's Whiskey. "Welcome to the Wiserhood", mo fo's!
I'm not sure if an arithmetic mean really says all that much for the ranks, since ranks are ordinally scaled. A median and/or mode might be more meaningful way of expressing track difficulty.
almost every single track has a median and mode placement of 1st, you would get an almost meaningless ranking
The hardest track in the booster course pass is sadness from airship fortress being omitted for *ANOTHER* Mario circuit. WE ALREADY HAD 4 DID WE REALLY NEED A *FIFTH?*
Piranha Plant Cove isn’t a new course. It’s a Tour original. That’s why it has changing routes
The fact that your raging from dying once tells me you’ve destroyed a ton of controllers
14:31 *Laughs in Dutch Mario Kart player here* Easy for me!
A review on Mario Kart 8 Booster Pass, Let's go
NOOOOOO HE FORGOT THE GLIDE MUSHROOM IN MUSHROOM GORGE WAS ADDED IN 7
This is incredible
I love Alpine Pass because the music track is royalty free version of Dream Police by Cheap Trick
Sky-high-Sunday and the other tracks are from tour
Mario car 9 was the booster pass. It included some old retro tracks and some new original tracks and tracks from a game nobody played
You are getting better at this game and second
0:23 I'll be your friend :)
I like Toad Circuit. It's nice to have simple tracks as well as complex ones for a better balance.
11:25 Thank you (It's actually Christmas for me at the moment.)
I love your mario kart videos!
“ not nearly as difficult as the 3ds iteration”
Gets only a 0.04 difference between the two
Great video!!!
9:38 ah, so thats why you called Music Park Mealody Motorway
The blue mushroom in Wii Mushroom Gorge was added in since Mario Kart 7.
amsterdam drift is so hard on 200cc. so many 90 degree turns in a row
2 things:
1. ppc is not a fresh new track lol, its a tour track
2. i honestly will never understand how la laps got as high a score as a 2.08 XD
Probably the spiny cup -me before watching
W video
Love the vids
14:43 👐🏻👏🏻 congrats
I think that you being bad, is what is making this experiment work. If I were to do this, most tracks would be 1.00 and this doesn’t give a good view for all the average spectators. Probs to you for doing this 50TIMES!?
Merry Mountain really gave Neo energy
Forgot they call rock rock mountain Alpine pass in the british version of this game
I did this same experiment, but i had 60/60 points for each cup all 50 times
14:40 I’m Aussie Number 1
i've been mostly out of the loop when it comes to mario kart ever since mario kart 8 released back in... what, was it 2014? jeez, that doesn't feel right. anyway, i've been getting back into it recently and i still haven't adjusted to sydney being in mario kart of all things. i mean, i don't live near the harbour, but there's a lot of stuff to see. it feels weird seeing places i've admired kelp and herons become a chaotic hybrid of both a road and a warzone, but in a kind of good way honestly. i feel like other than australia being upside down, constantly on fire, not real and the most hostile continent on the planet it's actually pretty obscure. like, no one lives here. i'm in a sea of crazy americans who are afraid of the letter u and think public transport is a bad thing. it's nuts.
anyway this is a pretty neat video! don't think i have much smart to say after that, really
The Cherry cup is the hardest? What the fuck lmao
Can’t believe there were so many people just being that mean to u in your previous vid. Sorry about that man.
Piranha plant cove is actually from tour...
I'm claiming my spot as one of the 5 aussies watching this
now im curious how the data would be different if you did the same expirement but with someone who doesnt play mariokart
1:22 to the point where I only placed thirteenth
He might be but you try doing a cup 50 times in a row
Do you plan to do more Rise and Fall videos? If I can suggest, what about the rise, fall and resurrection of Fire Emblem?
Unrelated comment: If you had to remove 1 bcp track in order to add an 8 deluxe rainbow road in its place, which track would you remove?
@hiilikepizza3197 Agreed
I love every track in the BCP, except one, DK Mountain! How does that horrible track get chose over the more fun and more unique Dino Dino Jungle?
I mean that's your opinion
@@EpikMamu : True, but I really think Dino Dino Jungle would’ve given us some additional variety as we already had 2 DK tracks in the game. Also, Dino Dino Jungle is a really unique track. There are people who love DK Mountain, and I respect that. Still, I just would’ve prefer DDJ.
Also I feel like the results would be real different if it were in 150cc
DKs Snowboard Cross is DK Summit in US releases
I don't know why you said Waluigi Pinball is easy. Going into that final section with the pinballs flying around is literally like walking into no man's land...
There’s no way you found that Bangkok abomination of a track to be easy, it is stupidly difficult for me to
It depends if you have smart steering or not
One time I was on sky garden I did the final jump gliderless. I had a mushroom but I still don't know how I did it again
Moonview highway being at midnight where there’s no traffic is wild tell me where there’s no traffic at midnight maybe it’s just cause I grew up in a big city and then moved to Orlando where everyone (including me) works at theme parks which have 24 hr staffing and then I go home at 1am and there’s just as much traffic as when I went into work cause we’re all going home now
MARIO CIRCUIT 3 IS PEAK
Interesting.
I play 200cc exclusively, so I funnily enough had more trouble getting triple stars on the booster course cups at 150cc and mirror, failing over and over.
But at 200cc, it was a breeze, two or three tries if needed.
And you should give yourself more credit, the early Tour city tracks are heavily flawed. Downright cheap if you ask me.
Toad circuit is not bad.i like IT.its fan to play
12:52 Is it actually called DK's Snowboard Cross where you live? In the US, it's DK Summit.
yeah! i believe it’s snowboard criss for the UK and Oceania 👌
might be one of the 5 aussies
World's longest Blue Shell chase XD
1:11 DOUBLE FIRST!!