Why Ohio's Population Is So Equally Spread Out
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Ohio is NOT empty, which is unlike most other states in the country. The state's three largest metropolitan areas - Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati - all have roughly the same population. And the state is home to many more metro regions with substantial populations. If we compare Ohio to Michigan, Illinois, or Indiana which all have very dominant cities in Detroit, Chicago and Indianapolis respectively, we can see just how different Ohio is. So how did Ohio manage to spread its population out so much? And why doesn't it own the piece of land in between the Ohio River and Pennsylvania border?
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An indiana video would be interesting considering its geography. With the southern hills and large central and northern planes. Plus large numbers of rivers.
@@spadegaming6348 Agreed!
Surprised you didn’t mention Toledo is a major port and that Ohio and Michigan nearly went to war over it in the skirmish known as the Toledo War.
Ohio got Toledo and Michigan, the UP.
I grew up about 30 miles north of Toledo. Toledo was another option for field trips, as the Toledo Zoo, dining out, like Mancy's, shopping mall with some different stores than in the malls in Detroit area, and of course, Hickory Farms.
Growing up I had an uncle who worked on the docks in Toledo and if Toledo shut down, a lot of people would be hurting. I don't think most Ohioans appreciate how vital it is to our economy. I grew up between Cincinnati and Dayton but have family up there so I spent a lot of summers there
Not NEARLY. We did! It wasn't a very active war and was honestly very silly. The only casualties were rumored to be one dude who hurt himself.
Toledo is obviously the greatest city of Ohio. Glass Capital! My dad-and grandpa before him had a buff factory for 50 years or so. My dad's favorite story to tell is that when he was a kid his dad installed an awning for Tony Paco's on the East Side and Tony came out and passed out hot dogs to all the kids helping out with the project.
@@matthewcarlton5693 Lancaster is screaming and shaking right now reading that
Ohio is 1 of 11 states where less than 25% of the population living in a single metro area.
What are the other 10?
@@qwerty975311crunching the numbers (surprisingly more difficult to do this than you think), I have so far come up with:
- North Carolina (Charlotte Metro accounts for 20.8%)
- Alabama (Birmingham accounts for 23.2%)
- Louisiana (New Orleans accounts for 21.0%)
- Wyoming (Cheyenne accounts for 17.2%)
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List of States with a Metro Area accounting for less than 25% for their population:
1. WV - Charleston (11.9%)
2. MT - Billings (16.3%)
3. WY - Cheyenne (17.2%)
4. SC - Greenville-Anderson-Greer (17.9%)
5. OH - Columbus (18.5%)
6. MS - Jackson (20.2%)
7. LA - New Orleans-Metairie (21.0%)
8. NC - Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia (21.5%)
9. IA - Des Moines-West Des Moines (23.0%)
10. AL - Birmingham (23.2%)
11. KY - Louisville-Jefferson County (24.1%)
12. AR - Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway (24.9%)
Highest is Rhode Island at 100% due to the entire state being in the Providence-Warwick MSA.
13 other states have a Metro Area that account for at least 50% of their population:
CO, WA, AK, DE, GA, MN, MA, NY, AZ, HA, NJ, NV, IL
(Least to Greatest)
The only Australian state or mainland territory any of whose most populous metro areas hadn't contained even HALF the population was Hobart in Tasmania, an island state.
Only thing you missed about the Great Lakes region of Ohio is you mentioned the proximity to Lake Erie causing milder winters but you missed that proximity also causing excessive snowfall due to lake effect snow.
yeah, that was a claim based on being high. there’s no universe in which NE Ohio gets milder winters.
@@GenMilleXial if you look at NOAA data Cleveland winter month average low temperatures are slightly warmer than Columbus. Thus being milder as stated in the video due to proximity to Lake Erie.
As someone who lives in toledo, I can confirm we get hellish winters
@@andrestein6022I grew up in Toledo, and Maumee. Lived in Columbus and Findlay as well. I can definitely confirm that Toledo is colder with more snowfall, even Findlay can be noticeably cooler than Columbus. Often with more snowfall. “Lake effect” was real up there 😂
yeah they definitely do NOT get milder winters than the rest of the state.
I will say, one of the best things about Ohio is the logistical advantage of being within a days drive of so much of the eastern US. Just 6 hours to Chicago, 8 hours to NYC, 12 hours to Florida, Minnesota, or Maine, no wonder we love to drive for every vacation.
How fast are you driving to get to Florida in only 12 hours?
I live in Far southern Ohio (Franklin Furnace, Scioto County, & I can drive to Chicago in less than six hours, & I can drive to Detroit in less than four hours (but why should I want to?).
@@katieandkevinsears7724 Getting to Florida in 12 hours is not a problem, but getting anywhere beyond the border requires some time. From southern Ohio we take I-64 east & south through WV, then cross the narrow strip of western VA, then NC, SC, a relatively small part of east GA, then FL. 12 hours easily, depending on traffic.
good highways make all the difference, California is only ~8 hours drive to other cities depending on where you are, Vegas / SLC / Phoenix / Denver etc, no wonder people do road trips every year
@@katieandkevinsears7724driving from Charleston WV to Tampa is only takes 12 hours. But you gotta drive through the night the avoid traffic and save time on stops! Pro tip here! Best done with a partner.
When people drive through Ohio, it is often through the glaciated (flattened) parts of the state, which is rather flat and dull. The bottom third extending from Cincinnati to Wheeling, West Virginia is very pretty with rugged topography.
But michigan isn't flat though? If Ohio were flat because of glaciers than so would michigan, I would assume? I thought Ohio was flat because of farming and lakes, like Michigan's thumb and southeast. Detroit and Saginaw are flat, Saginaw because of lakes and Detroit because of farming, we flattened all the hills.
Yeah I live there. I live near Lake Vesuvius near Ironton, Ohio. I've driven US 52 from Ironton to cinncinnatti many times.
@Pistolita221 Southern Ohio is similar to the Irish Hills area of Southern Michigan. But yeah there are many flat parts of the state, stretching from Dayton to Toldeo caused by glaciers. The massive Great Black Swamp was in this area and it was drained for agriculture a long time ago
Cincinnatian here, and yes, the south of the state has some beautiful terrain, and I wish more people would come to visit it. I drove to DC last summer and got to experience the beautiful mountains and rivers firsthand, and even though I’ve seen it before, it’s still wonderful.
Weird how many states have their major interstates going through flat, straight, sparsely populated areas. Almost as if it was by design.
As an Ohioan, I find it amusing that our evenly distributed population is considered interesting.
I suppose there is some truth in it, cause I always thought territories where most of the population lives in one area (your example of Denver, Colorado) quite fascinating.
as someone who lives in Columbus, I don’t understand why it isn’t like this everywhere..
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@@PokoTheDinosaur When I think of other American states, American territories and Canadian equivalents, I think of rather uneven population distribution in so many of them. When I think of Ohio, I think of Cleveland, Akron, Columbus and Cincinnati as being quite populous, while among cities based in:
- Pakistan’s Sindh Province, Karachi most comes to mind
- the Andaman and Nicobar Islands union territory of India, Port Blair is the only settlement that comes to mind
California has it too, we have cities in the north, inland valley, southern inland areas, and south coast, a lot of people don't realize there are other cities besides Bay Area and LA, the greater Sacramento region is huge
When I think of Brazil’s São Paulo State, the Spanish autonomous community (an equivalent to an American state) of Catalonia and Canadian province of Manitoba, I think of the metro areas of the capitals of those respective subnational entities, São Paulo, Barcelona and Winnipeg, with the majority of those subnational entities’ inhabitants. The metro area of St. John’s, capital of the Canadian province of Newfoundland, doesn’t have even half of that province’s inhabitants, but is by Newfoundland standards quite densely populated (almost 600 per square mile compared to not even 4 per square mile in the province as a whole as of the 2021 Canadian national census). By comparison what’s often known as The Square Mile within the British capital London had as of 2022 had a population density of almost 10,000 per square mile.
Once you’ve driven across vast stretches of the High Plains without hitting a town for 50 miles, places like Ohio start to feel a lot less empty.
And a lot less windy
I drove through Central ILL, Mizz, NEB and Kansas.
Ohio doesn't feel empty at all to me.
There is always towns and cities along the roads everywhere.
When I am in Oregon, I could drive sometimes 2-4 hours and not have seen a single building/human structure at all
Driving through Oklahoma and the Texas panhandle made me feel very isolated, with exits off the interstate with no signs of life, gas stations, truck stops, etc. I noticed right away that practically every interstate exit in Ohio has something there, either a mix of restaurants and truck stops or even just a single gas station. Makes Ohio feel less empty in my view.
Back in days when "Main Street" was the vibrant economic backbone of America, Ohio was crowded with vibrant Main Streets. Look at the town and city index of an American road atlas. Ohio's index is one of the longest. And Ohio's map is typically divided onto multiple pages when larger states are not, simply to include the detail required for its many small towns and cities.
Cleveland was settled by New Englanders from Connecticut (led by Moses Cleaveland - city name spelling later changed).
Cincinnati (and Marietta, upriver) were settled by pioneers coming down the Ohio River.
Different settlers led to different population centers.
A lot of New Yorkers moved into Lake and Cuyahoga counties.
4 Greats back Grandfather from New York Mid 1800’s Same for Grandmother 4 Greats back from Connecticut Mid 1800’s moved to Wood County Pemberville
yeah Ohio and Chicago were the gateway to the West for the northern states, makes a lot of sense
@@Fetherko and you can here it in the regional dialect that sounds more easy coast than Midwest
@@danielzhang1916 not only this, but Northeast Ohio specifically was once actually part of Connecticut, as the Connecticut Western Reserve and was settled as a part of Connecticut’s westward expansion specifically. To this day, many towns and historic places look very much like New England, the political and cultural attitudes couldn’t be further from a place like Cincinnati or Columbus and their surrounding metro areas and we still have many different places and institutions named “Western Reserve…” as many people are very proud of our heritage and see ourselves as being from Northeast Ohio rather than “Ohioans” in general.
Southeastern Ohio here, and I really like our area. Very affordable, beautiful rolling hills, not hugely populated, (not overcrowded) and within a few hours drive of Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Pittsburg.
Pittsburgh
Charleston and Parkersburg too, it's very pretty and not far away
@@astorp12345 Cadiz, Steubenville, Marietta and Athens from 1949 to 1964. Although I was born in Los Angeles and returned there to go to college, I grew up an Ohioan.
Same here. Live near Ironton, Ohio and Portsmouth, Ohio too.
Learn to spell
Geoff. Dayton is the birthplace of aviation. Wilbur and Orville Wright lived, worked and built their first flying machines here. Yes N. Carolina was first in flight but everything else the brothers did was right here in Dayton. Design, building etc. I'm surprised you did not give a bigger nod to Dayton.
That "flight" in North Carolina was more like a lucky burst of wind when the engine was surprisingly working. That model of airplane shouldn't have been able to take off successfully and the first real flight happened after they got back to Ohio and fixed their mistakes.
They only went to NC because they had shitty land lol. It was swamps so a cushion if they crashed. Only reason they went to NC. Dayton is a really underrated city. I'm from cincy and want to move up there. Weird i know but it's a nice mix of boring and wild
@@kevingeezy5176 I love that. " nice mix of boring and wild" 😂😂😂 and btw I love Cincy just don't like driving there.
I agree. Not sure how many different trips to K.H. they made but eventually their planes were taking off and landing at Huffman prairie.
North carolina takes all the credit for being the first in flight when it was in Ohio where all of the actual work was done. we will forever be salty.
As a Canadian, I always found Ohio interesting for the fact it had 3 large similarly sized cities, something we don't have in any province up here. Also the fact that their population combined is fairly large and yet its influence muted yet strong. Just disappointed that the high speed rail line between the Big 3 C's was never approved... That would have been a real game-changer for the region. Perhaps a future Brightline project...
Not only connecting the 3 C's but I should be able to get to Chicago by train by now. To add to that, Columbus is the largest metropolitan area in America that has no other public transportation than bus. It can take you 35-45 minutes to get from Groveport to Dublin using the freeway. It's insane there's no train system here.
New Brunswick is evenly distributed with Moncton, Saint John and Fredericton albeit at a much smaller scale
"Also the fact that their population combined is fairly large and yet its influence muted yet strong."
Ohio used to be the 4th most populous state, but it's now the 7th (8th?). It's desperately holding on to what it has left, but deindustrialization sucks.
Sadly car manufacturers and oil giants are paying off our politicians so we don’t do this. Revolution or nothing will change
Those cities aren't big enough to justify high speed rail..there no real high speed rail on east coast..there's a new york to DC I believe but that's just normal rail.. texas cities, LA to San Francisco, or east coast would get high speed b4 ohio.. & I'm not a hater I love ohio
A good reference material is a book called "How the States Got Their Shapes." It goes into all 50 states got their shapes even before they were states.
I love that one!
Thank you. Great short presentation on Ohio. I learned some facts and history I wasn’t aware of. As a native of Pittsburgh, PA., I have visited Ohio much throughout my life. As a side note, Cleveland is a great city with much to do and good places to eat.
@@markcefola273775% of the PA population is in the five county Philadelphia area
What about the fact that Ohio was not legally admitted as a state in 1803? The proper paperwork had not been acted upon by Congress, and this oversight (found in preparation for its 150th anniversary) was not fixed until 1953, under the first Eisenhower administration. The corrective legislation made Ohio's status as a state retroactive to 1803.
As a Ohioan who just went on a road trip, yes, the population centers are pretty evenly spread out and even more so evenly populated given the population of each of the three big Cs. Cleveland is the most notable city, with the least populated metropolitan area of the three Cs, it is largest if you include the Akron and Canton metropolitan areas.
Cincinnati has the largest metropolitan area yet the core city is the least populated of the three Cs.
Cincinnati is the largest metro in Ohio? I thought Cleveland was larger. Cincinnati doesn't even seem that big. Columbus feels much larger, at least in my opinion.
Columbus is largest in land area and covers 250 square miles. Cinci includes suburbs in KY and IN.
@@jeremiahallyn4603 Cincinnati is not the largest metro area in Ohio. Cleveland is and that's not including Akron and canton. That's including all of the metropolitan area suburbs though such as Lorain county, parts of Medina county, Lake county, some of portage county etc. that's where you get over 2.2 million people. Cleveland proper has a very small population because it has shrank by like three times over the last 40 or 50 years. Most of those people move to the suburbs though and are still in the metro. Columbus grew over the last 2535 years into the largest city due to incorporating suburbs over time. Columbus tonight used to be that big within the city limits but it grew. Cleveland has not done that at all and is only 88 square miles in the city itself. Cuyahoga county is the most densely populated. There's literally corn fields and landfills with nothing on them in parts of Columbus. No room for that in Cleveland
We need more buildings and housing so we can be a super cool city 😎
Here we go again. Cleveland is only larger when they include Youngstown which is 70 miles away. Cincinnati metro is larger than Cleveland metro but Cleveland csa includes akron AND canton. Akron is the same distance from Cleveland as dayton is to cincy but cincy and dayton are separate metro areas although they're connected. Cincinnati is larger than Cleveland, dayton is larger than akron and Hamilton/Middletown is larger than canton. Columbus is a huge suburb.
I grew up in that blue section of West Virginia. There are 4 counties there and they are east of the Ohio River and originally part of Virginia, which was the border between Ohio and Virginia from 1803-1863. That was the edge of the original colonies before west ward expansion into Ohio in 1803.
Thanks for the interesting information. I was born in Wheeling, WV...raised in Toledo, OH...reside in Las Vegas, NV. 👍
what was it like living there
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Lived in Ohio for 23 years, it had a lot to do with the interstate system, there's multiple ways to get everywhere in the state.
the interstate system didn't even start til the 50s like we know it today.
It really was the canal and railway system that shaped the urban centers. The interstate system was built to accommodate the car. To this day the number (and length) of trains that pass through Ohio every day is mind boggling
Elmer Fudd: “High in the middle and round on both ends. O-HI-O!”😂
Milder winters on Lake Erie??? that legal weed must be good.
can personally confirm that NE Ohio gets *worse* winter weather than anywhere in the state.
Absolutely. Grew up in Toledo/maumee. Lived in Cbus over 10 years. Winters are so much milder in Cbus. It still sucks, but I noticed the difference right away.
can confirm from columbus. im not too familiar with NEO but our winters are definitely weaker
I put that on repeat multiple times because I couldn't believe my ears haha. But after having done some research myself it "technically" is correct. In NE Ohio we do indeed get BLASTED each year by snow, but temperature wise, NE Ohio does have slightly warmer winters than other parts of the state. Very slight, but still true. Surprisingly NE Ohio's record lows by county barely touch most other counties, even in Columbus. So warmer winters with more snow is the conclusion.
Cleveland has less extreme cold than Cincinnati, but the duration of the cold in Cleveland is much longer. So while it may hit -2 in CIN and only 1 in CLE, it’s going to have more days of freezing temps and obviously a TON more snow. The worst year of snowfall in CIN is less than the average snowfall in CLE.
@@autismworldtravel it’s not better in Columbus than Trumbull County. i’ve lived in both.
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Ohio's 3 Cs are very populous around. Cincinnati by the Ohio River in the southwest of the state, Columbus through the Scioto River in the center of the state, and Cleveland by Lake Erie in the northeast of the state. Good thing I-71 and US 42 connect those 3 Cs when it comes to metropolitan areas, but US 42 bypasses Columbus when it comes to city limits.
Columbus is on the banks of both the Scioto & Olentangy Rivers.
SR 3 goes through all three cities. it was called the 3C highway, but now we have I-71
@@UserName-ts3sp Ohio Route 3 is a scenic alternative, particularly between Columbus and Cleveland.
Tennessee also has very evenly distributed population. Memphis, Nashville, Chatanooga and Knoxville are fairly evenly spread out into four distinct pockets of the state
I find it interesting that from Washington DC to the Tennessee border via I-81 is a shorter distance than from the eastern border to Memphis.
Ohio has hands down the best state flag, and is the only one of the 50 that is a pennant shape. I'm from NY, in the westernmost county, less than a two hour drive to Ohio, through the little piece of Pennsylvania that juts norrh to Lake Erie.
It looks like the Puerto Rican flag
Ohio is a very underrated state. Yes, I may be bias here since I was born, raised, and live in ohio, but the urban areas are like no other I’ve seen. Even the rural areas provide scenic views and amazing landscapes. I hope more people come check it out!
Grew up in WV and can attest that Ohio is very underrated!! Fell in love with the Hocking Hills region within the past few years ❤
Well, not disrespecting Ohio, but yes, you probably are a little biased.
Yes, agreed. Very underrated. Our bad areas are not that bad as compared to most other parts of the USA.
Ohio is at the crossroads of the Great Lakes and Ohio River. This geography means little room for emptiness.
I'm 69 years old, born in Columbus, and have lived in Ohio all but five years. I was in Virginia for four years, and Kentucky for one. I have been to all of the lower 48 states, and they all have their good points, but all in all, I like it here. You do have to deal with January and February, which can be a little blah.
Could’ve shown a population density map to drive the point home better than the dots. Also a pop density map would’ve shown how Dayton is connected to Cincy, and Akron is connected to Cleveland.
Lake Erie east of Cleveland and on towards Erie PA is a lake effect snow machine. Only in fall does Lake Erie moderate the northern Ohio temperatures.
Great video. I find the rise of Columbus in recent decades the most intriguing thing about Ohio.
That city is booming. Lived there for 8 years and loved it, moved away last year for my wife’s job and went back last month to visit and the amount of new things that popped up in a year was crazy.
Good callout. It is fascinating. I think it's for three main reasons:
1.) Geography: Tons of flat, open, available land to expand into. CLE runs into the lake. CIN runs into hills and KY and IN.
2.) Education: tOSU is a boomtown all of their own. More kids go there and stay there, usually with good, high paying, white collar, tech jobs. In turn, those companies and industries have moved into the area to be closer to the talent. CIN has this a little with UC and Miami, but I don't think CLE has this much at all.
3.) Politics: Like it or not, being home to the state capitol of one of the USA's biggest and most prominent states means something, so it attracts people and business. CIN and CLE don't have this type of clout.
I've been fascinated about the amount of development and the prominence of its cities for a while. I think Ohio is one of the few states where people would have wide recognition of even minor cities. And it is fascinating that the 3 big C's are spread out across the state. Thanks for making this video!
yeah Ohio, California, etc. are the few states that have cities all over, a lot of people don't realize that at first
@@danielzhang1916 CA, FL, and TX are the other ones that come to mind, but those states are huge in comparison to Ohio.
I watched this because I live in Ohio. (I actually live in the so-called Mahoning Valley, which is basically the viewing area of the Youngstown TV stations and is on the western side of the PA state line.) I will note that specialization may not have been totally beneficial, as the Youngstown area was hit hard by the closure of the steel mills.
I went to college at Kent State, and, while the Ohio/Erie canal is gone, there were markers in Kent, OH indicating where it had been.
I was actually born in Sharon, PA, a town just over the state line in Pennsylvania. I recently went back to Sharon with a friend from college and one thing she noted were the hills. (Downtown Sharon is in a valley between two hills, so it is literally “downtown”, while “uptown” is up the hill. The western hill’s summit is actually in Ohio.) My friend noted Ohio tends to be flat (likely referring to the Lake Erie Plain).
I recommend talking about the geography of Pennsylvania. (I don’t know if the population of PA is as spread out as that of Ohio.)
Did you ever go to Kent State's monument to the students who were shot in the Vietnam Protest in 1971?
pennsylvania isn’t as spread out, but it’s almost like two separate states. harrisburg and points east feel like a completely different state than the pittsburgh area
Pennsylvania deserves to be two or three states. In particular, the west and east sides have totally different vibes, orientations, etc.
I’m in the Mahoning Valley as well. The fact that if people aren’t too technical it also includes Sharon, New Castle, Grove City and a bunch of other Pennsylvania towns puts the valley within earshot of a million people. Kind of shows how big the hidden population centers are around Ohio. I’m not saying Shoron and the other towns are in Ohio, but…🤷🏾♂️
One factor in ohio development was the civil war. Cleveland was involved in northern trade. Cincinnati was involved in trading with the south and was stunted growth.
I’d say that South Carolina has 3 relatively equal cities - Greenville in the Upstate, Columbia in the Midlands, and Charleston in the Low Country.
Ohioan and fellow geography nerd here. Love the video and the channel. Keep up the great work on the channel! 👏🌎
I’ve lived in Ohio my whole life (Cincinnati then Columbus at OSU, then back to Cincy after graduation). All my friends that have moved out of state have already come back or plan on coming back because there isn’t anything like it. I love my Buckeye State ❤
We lived in Ohio when I was born, & have lived here for much of my adult life, but never a big OSU fan, nor University of Cincinnati. Xavier University all the way! Always look forward to the "Crosstown Shootout" between UC & XU, every year. Go Musketeers!
as an ohio native… i plan on leaving the state for 5-10 years but ultimately coming back. i grew up in the columbus area… will probably end up there but i don’t want to live my whole life in one state
As a life long resident in the Buckeye State, this was very interesting. I did not know about the pan handle of West Virginia. Very interesting!
Im glad you talked about my home state and didnt notice Ohio have evenly distributed populations
Ohio and Florida have an interesting relationship, we owe a lot to Ohio settlers, and we also similarly have multiple major cities spreading out our population across the Florida peninsula.
& the Miami Indians contributed their name to many of our landmarks in both states.
Very interesting, thankyou 😊
>Milder winters along the lake
Brother they get smashed with snow I was in Conneaut one year they got 4 feet in one storm
I live near Cincinnati. Very hilly around here. But drive north up 71 to Columbus it's flat as a pancake. Farmlands as far as the eye can see in all directions.
which is why an employer like Intel will look at the Columbus area rather than Cincy. The geography is a big factor.
In Iowa you can’t go 20 minutes without finding another town. Then I go out West and oh my gosh is it full of nothing then boom big city.
Interesting observations about the population distribution of that state. It makes sense that you didn’t name any major cities in that Appalachian area on the southeast side of the state. Generally, people don’t associate big cities with Appalachia
Thanks for another very interesting video, Geoff. Another thumbs-up for you.
Great new Doo and awesome new set. Loved the Ohio vid. Great learning opportunity.
Nicely done! Good summary of the history. Ohio has kind of a mellow vibe, which I have attributed to the lack of domination by one city. It's well known how the people in upstate New York get annoyed at NYC.
As a lifelong Ohioan you did a great job with this video Geoff.
Fun bonus fact Columbus was actually created by the state legislature to become the capital. There were a few capitals before it’s creation.
It wasn’t mentioned, but I only recently learned that Ohio has islands in Lake Erie. I’ve lived in Ohio for almost 19 years😅
So glad you mentioned my hometown Treaty of Greene Ville!
I'm getting excited for this video!
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I can say with certainty that Columbus is already breaking away from the other two and will be far far ahead in 15 years. It's one of two growing cities in the Midwest and was quarter 4 fastest growing city in America. There's an Intel processor plant coming in. Multiple Google and Amazon data centers as well. Ohio State isn't getting any smaller. It's also the closest to the aforementioned Hocking Hills. I would never live in either of the other two cities! Great video!
This is more true for Cleveland, but yes Columbus is and has been a growth powerhouse, having been much smaller than the other two C’s until quite recently.
Columbus looks depressing driving through.
I always thought Cincinnati had more stuff to do though. Bengals, Reds, Kings Island, Newport Aquarium, cincy zoo, ect... way more to do.
That's mostly to their annexation policies that lets them absorb neighboring municipalities. Cincinnati is only like 79 square miles and Cleveland is 82 square miles. If Cleveland's city proper was the same size as Columbus its population would be roughly 1.08 million, Cincinnati's would be 896,994. Columbus' economy is pulling ahead though, but Cleveland isn't far behind with biomedical companies and others coming in due to the healthcare industry.
@@michael7054 Ohio State, Blue Jackets, Crew, I'm fine driving two hours to Kings Island once a year, The Columbus Zoo blows 95% of zoos on earth out of the water. Cincy over CLE alllllll day, but Columbus has everything Cincy has besides NFL, MLB and roller coasters, without half of it being in Kentucky.
You didn't go in to Detail about Dayton Ohio, It was The Birth Place of Aviation. I don't Know for Shure, But I've always been told That, I'm probably wrong, Maybe You need to do a Webinar, I guess that's what it Called, I don't Know, Or am Uncertain, About The Birth Place Of Aviation. I know that where the Write Bros. Lived and Grew Up, That's about It, Though, So Maybe a Webinar on It ! ! !
Unlike states west of the Mississippi, Ohio feels much more dense because it has been around as as state since 1803 and has been a major center of industrial might for many years (and still is in some parts of the state). Reasonably close access to Chicago to the west and the big East Coast cites to the east explains why Ohio is so developed.
Great video, Geoff. I have visited many of those Ohio cities and have always enjoyed my time there. Do you have a similar video about Missouri? I would love to hear your take on my Show-Me State. Peace!!
Great video! Hocking Hills is my favorite place. Also, I don't think there is much mining going on in Southern Ohio anymore. It's actually a very economicly depressed area that is rittled with addicition.
But correct me if I'm wrong.
Very well done episode. Well researched. I found this very interesting.
Keep up the good work.
Ohio Proud!
Grew up in the Toledo area, and I remember my childhood fondly. I'd love to move back up that direction someday. I miss my lake!
Well, I stumbled across your channel thanks to the algorithm, but you earned a follow from me because you pronounced “Appalachian” correctly.
Excellent presentation, by the way, so I’ll be looking forward to your content!
Lifetime Ohio resident, grew up near Lake Erie, and have lived in the Akron area for many years. Have never felt the need to leave this beautiful state. My mothers side of the family has been in and around Lorain County since the early 1800's. Yes a major portion of us are Buckeye fans even though many of us have gone to one of the 14 state universities and colleges.
A lot of people in the northen panhandle agree they want to merge with either ohio or pa. It is very different from the rest of the state. The ohio valley is a pretty nice place to live. It ain't florida but it has some charm lol
The state's evenly distributed population also has played a role in making it more politically conservative than other states bordering the Great Lakes with dominant population concentrations. People identify with their counties (it's even on their license plates) and most of the state's 88 counties has a county seat with at least 15,000 people with an interesting and unique history. This has diluted the power of labor unions and political machines. Two fun facts -- the state has free state park entry and no sales tax on take-out food.
Get on a sail boat, sail near Marblehead. If your guest from California was blindfolded, and you removed it, the last place he would guess he was would be Lake Erie! I sailed there often and was always amazed. Stunningly beautiful. We are blessed here in Ohio!
My dad took a granddaughter from Texas fishing on Lake Erie. He had trouble convincing her it was a freshwater lake. She was sure anything that big was ocean.
Thank-you for this video man. As someone from Athens, in s.e. Ohio, it was nice to see your commentary and you're right about us being excluded but I happen to think this the the best part of Ohio and certainly the prettiest.
Athens, Ohio is one of the best college towns in the country.
Agreed. SE OH in the Apps is probably the most beautiful part of the state for sure.
I'm a Michigander born and still here but I grew up in Ohio. I'm a wolverine Born near Ann Arbor only reason I wasn't born at the university hospital was a snowstorm. I love Ohio, hate the buckeyes but love Ohio. Talk about native history, industrialization, farming, Civil war...Sandusky is the end of the underground railroad. If you got there you were free even after Dread vs. Scott. Understand that when your playing at Cedar Point.
If it makes you feel better, we hate the Wolverines.
You didn't mention the Miami Erie Canal. Built 1825. From Toledo on Lake Erie to Cincinnati.
Very interesting. Got yourself a new Sub..
We are the heart of it all.
I see Ohio as microcosm of the US. It you squint, you can see the shape of the contiguous states. Water to the north and south, a tip to the upper east and a long vertical border on the west. And where I live in Northeast Ohio is kind of like Ohio's location in the States. We are a day's drive from NY, Chicago, and the Deep South, as well as Ontario, CA.
You should have mentioned the Miami Erie Canal too.
This is the time I've heard the end of Wyandot pronounced as "dote" instead of "dot". Great video though!
As one from Southern Ohio, the population isn’t that evenly distributed. Notice how the Southern and South East regions of the state don’t have any major population centers and in state funding are treated like an afterthought.
Biden did approve how many billion to go to the Appalachian region? Stuebenville and all those river/iron towns south of it
@@thatonedude7070this goes back much farther than him. You need to learn the history of southern. It goes back farther than the last election.
The reason why Ohio is different is that it is high in the middle and round at both ends (Bugs Bunny).
Alberta, Saskatchewan & New Brunswick are Canada’s most evenly distributed provinces:
ALBERTA
2 Metros:
Calgary 1.7 Million
Edmonton 1.5 Million
Plus
NW 75,000 Grande Prairie
NE 70,000 Ft McMurray
C 110,000 Red Deer
SW125,000 Lethbridge
SE 80,000 Medicine Hat
Columbus was built to be the state capital. The Ohio Statehouse was one of the first permanent buildings built in the city.
The Ohio State University, with the largest campus in the country is a major draw.
Light to medium industry seems to be distributed rather evenly throughout the state.
Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati have comparable metropolitan populations, but Columbus is actually the largest city in the state.
well yeah because cities like Cincy have other small towns around it and in it while cbus doesnt have any of those making the land area far larger, which would obviously make the actual city population higher than the other two.
There are plenty of "other small towns" around Columbus, but in the '50s and '60s Mayor M. E. Sensenbrenner had an aggressive annexation policy.
"You say you want city services? Like water, sewer, fire, police and like that? Well I guess you want to be part of Columbus!"
Many suburbs resisted. Many did not.
Once again, like always, it is economics. Cleveland and Toledo are Great Lakes ports that boomed in the 50s. Cincinnati is on the very navigable Ohio river, which enables cheap shipping, that’s why Fed Ex has its operations at its airport, as geographically, it is a 2 hour flight to 85% of America’s population. Columbus is the capital, so people live there like they do for Washington DC. Not a geography thing, it’s always economics
I just wanna know, in the beginning where you shown states with clear population centers, you put Tennessee there when Memphis is also big. In fact, in half the videos were Memphis needed to be mentioned it felt like it was actively avoided. I just wanna know the reason.
Ohio is an awesome state to live in! It's never too hot in the summer or too cold in the winter and there's always something to see or do culturally wherever you live.
Sometimes Ohio is too hot in the summer (terrible humidity) & too cold in the winter (humidity once again), but if you don't like Ohio weather, just wait a few minutes, it'll change. ;{D
@@1952jodianne Must be true because I've heard that saying all my life!🤪
Ummmm. Having grown up in NE Ohio, Lake Erie most definitely does not moderate the winters. Winters are severe And bone chilling (not really an exaggeration) winds howl off the frozen lake. And let’s not forget the Lake effect snow. Which is very real. I guarantee you that winters in Cincinnati are milder than winters in Cleveland.
We get some snow in Cincinnati most winters, but by-&-large, Cincinnati is cold & drizzly in the winter. In spite of most people's perceptions about Portland, OR & Seattle, Cincinnati gets far more annual precipitation than either. Cincy also has more ENT specialists per capita than any other major city, although Louisville & Indianapolis come close.
@@1952jodianne yeah here in cincy we dont get too much snow and it doesnt come down in huge piles very often anymore.
Good video Geoff! So do you see Pennsylvania as being dominated by Philadelphia? Maybe it is by population, but since Pennsylvania is divided by the Appalachians, if feels like two states. I grew up in Beaver county PA and the other side of the mountains may as well have been the moon to us. Looking at PA and other states that are divided geographically would make another good video! What do you think? 🤔🤔🤔
I’m from Youngstown, we got big populations back in the early 1900s because we had a lot of coal and iron and were situated between Pittsburgh and Chicago, 2 big steel manufactures. So people moved here to get jobs, but once Black Monday happened, they started leaving and have ever since.
No mention of Youngstown steel or the armed disputes over the Toledo Strip with Michigan (this is echoed today in CFB) but I'll let it slide.
I would like to point out that towns & villages are all approximately 6 miles apart. It was due to dense forests and Native American trails that European settlers traveled. They could only make 6 miles per day in wagons. In Ohio's amish country, this holds true, old order amish will still walk a few hours to town, buy/sell at market and walk back. Being barefoot in 2ft of snow.
In our part of Ohio, between South Point & Cincinnati, we haven't had two feet of snow on the ground, save for drifts, since 1994.
As an Ohioan I’m pretty biased, but I believe it truly is a great state and don’t really understand a lot of the hate this state gets sometimes. It’s a lot prettier than people realize, especially in the the Hocking Hills/Athens area, and Lake Erie Shores area. I’ve lived in the western portion of the state, lived in Columbus, and lived in Athens and all are great places. Love the 3 big cities, each feel very different from one another. And I think people don’t realize how much there is to do here, having traveled to most other states it’s got a lot more going on than probably 75% of the country. And there’s just a lot of great history here.
it's probably an inside joke that's so old everyone on the inside forgot what they're referencing, cause tbh IDK why either. As someone from michigan I get it, but the rest of the country? TF did Ohio do?
I would love to see you do a video like this about Pennsylvania! The population spread between the 4 corners is pretty interesting (although not as even as Ohio's population spread).
Ohio is deer apparently in one of the native American languages. Columbus has a street called mound street without a mound. Well it was over a Native American mound but when cars became popular they had trouble going over the mound so they made it flat but kept the name.
Hello! Where are you getting the numbers for Dayton? The city of Dayton by itself only has about 120k population. Are you using the cities around it as well? Just curious. Thanks!
As an Ohioan...i appreciate you doing a video on the great Buckeye state. 😊
i'd be curious to see a discussion of states with two notable, competing metro areas. the clearest examples would be California (Greater L.A. and the Bay Area) and Pennsylvania (Philadelphia and Pittsburgh), but there are one or two others that might be comprable (NV, MO, and OK all come to mind in particular)
Although San Diego is California's 2nd largest city.
There's bound to be a video on the disproportionately eastward rail density. 8:40
Your channel is the best geography channel I ever watched!
I agree 💯
My grandfather is from Zanesville in Muskigum County. Would you consider that to be part of the Appalachian territory or Ohio River Basin?
May I ask where you get the population numbers for the cities? I looked up the population for these cities and dont see any results with any cities with a population over a million.
Can you please do a video on WV? :)
I thought this video was about people from Ohio getting away from Ohio
I always liked the moment in the movie The Patriot when the bad guys are plotting. Colonel Tavington says: "If I do this I'll never be able to go home. Tell me about Ohio."
As a side note, I dated a woman who was from Ohio and went to Ohio State. 20+ years later and everything in her life was still Buckeye this and Buckeye that. She had to watch every televised Ohio State game and even named her dog Buckeye. I've been told this is not unusual.
12:14 I mean, you do realize that when the British were granting those charters that the land that you were talking about here was part of France?
I love living in Ohio. The cost of living is great. People from other parts of the country think Ohio is boring. There is so much to do here. I really like going to Cleveland and Cincinatti . I went to Columbus once and wasn't impressed. It had a weird vibe.
I've been to Ohio twice (another trip soon)... and it was amazing 👏🏾
Very underrated and get joked about often, but then again, folks think Phoenix & Vegas are grandiose
Cincinatti really feels like just one giant city all the way from the river pretty much to dayton
You should take a look at Iowa with its cities along two rivers and other cities throughout the middle
Milder winters in NE Ohio compared to the rest of the state?? You have that backwards lol.
Because... of alll... *THE ICE!!!!*
That's what I thought. The winter in the Cincinnati area isn't even that bad. Especially when compared to the areas in Cleveland and Toledo.
I think he is saying that the lake moderates the winters so that even though it is colder on average in Cleveland, the low lows are colder in flat areas like Dayton and Columbus metros where they dont benefit from the moderating lake.
@@AustinKiger you’re probably right. I should’ve went back and listened again, I probably misunderstood him.
Cincinnati is probably about the warmest part of Ohio.