From what I’ve heard if they give Marc Webb creative control and let him make the movies these movies would of been a lot better with a more grounded/dark tone like the first one
TechnikLEO I think they could’ve managed having multiple villains as long as the script was naturally handled by the directors without studio interference. It would make it harder to handle but not impossible to do correctly, Raimi was forced to shoehorn Venom in his film against his wishes if he had a clear vision for Venom to be included on his own without being forced I see that film being much better.
It's like they were so desperate to create a shared universe that they flung to it balls out in the 2nd film. Like no, take your time and develop this world into that in a natural progression
Joshua Benitez No one knows what happened to him. He sold his channel to FandomWire and that’s all anyone knows. He was silent for years after Civil War released. Not even when they made Homecoming or Infinity War. He finally came out and said anything was when Stan Lee died. And has stil been silent ever since including when Endgame and Far From Home dropped. It’s a weird scenario. He was probably the biggest Spider Man fan ever. Such a mystery to this day.
@@billybutcher582 more like, not hands on, it was animated...Sony said do what you want. I'd be more worried about the sequels now that sony sees the potential
4:41 I laughed out loud at this part, just imagine it 🤣: Spider-man: Hey guys this symbiote is too strong for me can you help? Doc Ock: That's a cute outfit, did your husband give it to you? Sinister 6: Hahahahahaha! Peter (sobbing): Uhh I hate u guys! You're always so mean to me!😭
Me to I liked the amazing Spider-Man 2 and loved the amazing Spider-Man 1 but this sounds just strange we get the sinister six carnage the black suit venom Mary Jane a Norman Osborn fakeout death and Spidey bringing people back to life not to mention Spidey crying because the sinister six bully him cletus Cassidy being homeless and peters dad
I’m not gonna lie, I enjoyed most of the sequel but somethings were unwatchable like the final fight of Spider-Man vs Electro or Electro in general except the Times Square send which is 100% awesome. It’s a shame the electro was bad because I love Jamie Fox
It's actually his fault that Spider-Man 3 didn't turn out the way Sam Raimi wanted it to because Avi Arad forced Venom in there implying that he pretty much ruined the Sam Raimi trilogy.
So basically all that nonsense about Marvel “ruining” Spider-Man and “not understanding the character” because of his connection with Tony was a bunch of bs. The entire time it was just Sony’s way of capitalizing on the popularity of the mcu. I... am not surprised tbh.
jayyTeęe s it should’ve been common sense to be honest I’ve been saying it since Homecoming was released, look at the difference between Peter in Captain America Civil War (primarily Disney produced) compared to Peter in Homecoming (primarily Sony produced).
@@kiryusannagi5171 I mean... just because it's not being all done by Disney, doesn't mean they don't have a fault in it. They don't simply go "hey, we give you money and you do the movie". They know what they're spending it on and they sure as hell want to make it worth it. Guarantee they thought Iron-Man had to be somewhere in the movie to remind Sony that's the big character they own that really is the boss in charge.
@@radrno7 You sure? This guy on the video said that Marvel want spider-man being a solo, in other words they originally don't want to put Iron man in the movie. Marvel probably made it more comedic but putting these character? without Uncle ben? I find another explanation made by Midnight's edge and all of these happen because it was related to Sony/Marvel agreement. Go check his video i can't tell everythimg here.
I think it'd be cool if "bringing people back" meant that the venom symbiote was just showing him really vivid visions of the people he's lost coming back and talking to him. Maybe they blame him for their deaths and the symbiote was creating these visions to weaken peter and make him more reliant on venom so they fuse. Venom taking advantage of Peter blaming himself during this mourning period to betyer himself. The "Spider-Mare" if you will.
The Sinister Six: You're ugly Peter: *breaks down in tears, falling to his knees and then running away and went home to cry in the shower and listen to sad music*
I mean the final fight with electro and then goblin was God tier, the music goblin brought and the dark vibe was what everyone loves, the movie was great at those parts, if the movie felt like that more in the beginning and middle it woulda been better
It seems like there were a ton of ideas circulating around, but I doubt they would’ve just crammed all of them into one movie like this. It seems unlikely that the whole resurrecting the dead thing would’ve made it past the drawing board. But I have to say, Peter’s loss of Gwen is the PERFECT set up for him to become attached to Venom during that state of vulnerability.
Honestly I feel Marc Webb truly made his film, for the most part, with the first one. I actually really loved the first one, though see its flaws which most of the deleted scenes improve upon. The second one feels like studio meddeling along the lines of Rami's Spiderman 3. There are moments of greatness in TASM 2. The first act was quite good until the second half becomes a bunch of set up for the future. The Gwen sequence is beautiful and proves Garfield/Stone is the best on film relationship within the Spiderman films. This 3rd TASM films sounds like Sony took it from Webb and just made him do what they said. Webb, Garfield, Stone, and rest of the cast and crew deserved better. Sony fucked them over. That's why you let the director do his/her job.
Bro tasm 1 was 4 hours long....how did they think removing 2 hours was a great idea and there was like 8 hours of footage for tasm 2 and andrew literally cried after reading the original script for tasm 2 and said it was beautiful
I actually LOVED TASM1. To date, it is my favorite Spider-man film, live action appearance and, live action iteration. I’ve been a Spider-man fan for 32 years and as an adult, I truly appreciated the more grounded, darker tone of the movie over the ultra campy Raimi series. Raimi couldn’t even make venom and the black suit dark, which in the comics, was an exceedingly dark time in Peter’s life. TASM2 was a mess. Not because of the number of villains, but because it was obvious Sony had their hands in the cookie jar much like they did with Spider-man 3 (and were trying to do with Spider-man 4 which consequently caused Raimi and crew to leave). Electro was written horribly, in my opinion, though I did like the struggle between Peter and Harry, that dynamic was actually welcomed. However, the film should’ve just focused on one villain and allow Harry to be developed more, similar to the Raimi series. I certainly think it was way too early to kill Gwen and they could’ve still introduced MJ without killing Gwen. Most people’s beef with AG as the starring role is they claim he’s too handsome/too cool. Again, as a fan for 32 years (I’m 41, so I started out in the late 80s with jumbo coloring books, Spider-man and his amazing fans, the Spider-man live action show and movie of that time), and especially owing old comics from the 70s though to today, that’s a very poor and clearly ignorant point. Peter Parker was NEVER considered “ugly” or “unattractive”. Yes, he was a nerd, but he wasn’t exactly meek or fearful. In fact, in the story showcasing his origin, he actually had plans and executed said plan to ask Cheerleader Liz Allan to accompany him as a date to the science fair where he was bitten. You know how much courage it takes to be in Peter’s position in the social hierarchy of his school to ask a top cheerleader out on a date? She declined, of course, because he is a nerd and, the optics of that would be devastating to her popularity. After peter acquired his powers, that boosted his confidence even more, and what do you know, he started dating Liz Allan, then Betty Brant, so on. There’s no reason to assume or believe Peter shouldn’t be attractive, so Andrew Garfield being handsome should not be a knock at the movie. He certainly wasn’t “too cool” in the film either. He got picked on, and if you say he wasn’t, maybe you weren’t paying attention. I can name two points in the film before getting his powers where he was victimized by Flash and crew. People need to understand, Spider-man is sort of a comedian in a dark world. He’s putting his life on the line to save the day while joking the whole time. TASM1 captures that and, to an extent, the beginning (first 10 mins or so) of TASM2 captured that. Sam Raimi decided to make the Spider-man world comedic and light, that made it hard to take the movie serious, the banter was almost nonexistent and Raimi appears to depend on Slapstick comedy to showcase the typical comedy of spider-man comics; a very important part of Spider-man’s comic IS his banter, NOT situational comedy. I could go on about the differences of style between Webb and Raimi (and I don’t mention the MCU version because to me, they trend back towards the Raimi style and I disliked those films). I just know, as a life long Spider-man fan, I enjoyed TASM1 most of all. No movie will do everything perfect, we will always have “artist input” from the directors, the writers.
Dude Avi Arad needs to back off he’s the reason SM 3 failed so ASM 3 was probably gonna be bad if Spidey gets rebooted tell avi to stay out of this one
Tbf to Sony, some of their ideas actually did sound kinda cool. Introducing the symbiote after the death of Gwen as an unhealthy coping mechanism, a Silver Sable movie, a Black Cat movie, an actual Venom spinoff, etc. It's mainly just the stuff with the Sinister Six & the Goblins that seemed a little too chaotic / pointless. But I would still be totally watching them out of sheer curiosity in some alternate universe.
Personally I think we could have had an entire spin-off film dedicated to Spider-Man going up against the Sinister Six and then after that we would get the Amazing Spider-Man 3 where Spider-Man gets the black suit and fights venom for the first time
I will admit, I think it was for the best that this movie was cancelled and keep in mind, I liked the first Amazing Spiderman movie. The second one I thought was alright. But after hearing the ideas of the movies and how it might go, I honestly might hate this movie. Just saying.
The best thing we can get is Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland in a live action Spider Verse movie. After Doctor Stranger Multiverse of Madness, this is the best thing we can get. Maybe even Spider Man 3 (Marvel) can have a small tease
I find these planned/failed productions, especially movies, so fascinating! I thought I knew most of the things regarding TASM 3, but Channel Pup showed a lot more. Very interesting. So would venom already be established? I guess he would end up having the same origin as his recent movie, since originaly Spider-Man gets the Symbiote first, then it goes on eddy. And how about the Lizard and Electro? I remember reading at the time that the two would return in the Sinister Six. The Lizard, btw, being mind-controlled by a collar in the helm of Green Goblin. Man, what could have been! Very intriguing thats for sure! Awesome video dude
Channel pup you're telling me it wasn't originally intended for Iron Man to be in the movie of Spider-Man homecoming but it was actually Sony's decision for that.
@siddharth bhawra Eh, "big part" is little overblown. He has 3 scenes in the movie. But yeah, i doubt Marvel would push for Iron Man to be in it. It's obviously Sony's idea so they can promote the new Spiderman as part of MCU. That's why in every single trailer they had Iron Man and even had fake shots of Spiderman swinging alongside Iron Man flying.
@@blyzer7373 Still, the Fact that the Movie didn't do pretty well on terms of Story is kinda sad to me. This Marvel/Sony Collaboration is a mess. And you know what's more messed up? The fanbase blame Marvel and Kevin for this
I love Andrew Garfield's Spidey, it felt the most natural. That said, a hero is only as great as his villains, I just think having too many people in a movie bloats it was a whole. Let the characters develop, more importantly, let the viewers immerse themselves into the characters before you shove: ACTION!! ACTION!! ACTION!! down the fans' throats. Less is more, 2 well-thought out villains can carry impact exponentially if written right. But 6 villains is a little O. D.
If only Andrew would’ve attended at the event where they where gonna announce the 3rd film then we would’ve actually got it he got fired for not attending that’s so dumb 🤦🏻♂️
Famous Indian Actor Irrfan Khan who played the role of Rajit Ratha in the 1st one was going to be the part of Sinister Six Group❤️. Unfortunately The the 3rd One didn't happen😟. And the Worst Part is Irrfan is no longer present between us 🤧 May his soul Rest in Peace 🙏.
@@sirjunior9006 I don't know but Marc Webb the director of the TASM series planned to make him the part of the sinister 6 team for the upcoming films I once read that in an article..
Actually the idea of where Cletus Kassady is coming from (a homeless man become a pyschopath because of the carnage of society) actually isn't a bad idea. Marvel Spiderman 3 take notes.
I honestly think that the amazing spiderman should've been made a series, with all the stuff that was going on, you can have venom at the beginning of the season, then the second half of it can be building up with battles with the future members of the sinister six, giving them a reason to hate spider man, then the next season could focus on the build up to him being defeated by the six, then the second half he builds up strength, using the black suit in a explosive two part season finale.
That would be cool, but a Spider-Man show would never be made because of the budget it would require. There’s no way they’d make the money back on a show. It would be at least a $1 billion budget to have a Spider-Man show that’s film quality
Although I was excited for The Amazing Spider-Man 3, I’m kinda glad Sony cancelled it cause looking back on Amazing Spider-Man 2, now that I’m older, I do see it’s flaws. PS, having Spider-Man integrated in the MCU with the rest of his Marvel brethren was the best move Sony made.
I'd love to see the film because it left so many questions. I love tasm bc it revealed the story of Peters family and so mutch more and Andrew and Emma were perfect together. For me personaly the next films would be a pleasure to watch but i don't think they are coming anymore...
i guess im the only person who loved the amazing spiderman movies , i grew up with toby but andrew came when i was in high school to me andrew looks just like peter from the 90s cartoon same hair too!!
Is it weird that the writer in me almost wants to take a stab at this? Of course it’s way easier to work all this stuff into a prose story as opposed to film, but it could prove a fun mental exercise.
They could’ve had the amazing spiderman 2 be pretty much the same as the dark knight. Green Goblin in the place of Joker, tombstone and hammerhead as the crime bosses. Gwen in the place of Rachael and still kill her off
S Battle Maybe Tobey will be a mentor to Tom so that he can grow to be his own hero and when he sees Andrew and Tobey fight he might throw some lame jokes but at the end he’ll mainly learn to be himself and not base his heroism on what the others do and instead find his own methods which will probably happen in the 3rd movie due to him finally being alone, but u do have to take into heart that Tom’s Spider-Man is only 16 or 17 meaning that he will still be a bit cringe and dorky but with these new idols ,that will hopefully appear in a spider-verse movie, they could teach him some new things that he could try and do plus it’s said that he might be the future leader of the new avengers so even if they decide to do the spider-verse or not, the MCU peter will grow up and become his own hero and soon might even be like the Tobey Spider-Man since he was a criminal he might have hard times with finding jobs and friends besides Ned
Legendary Fritz that would be nice especially since Tobey Spider-Man seemed to be the most serious and best overall fighter would be good se him suit back up
I still don't understand why they even rebooted it in the first place. Okay, Sam Raimi didn't wanna do 4th one/couldn't meet the deadline but like, just get another director to do it? You did it anyway with Mark Webb... But i guess they just wanted to recycle his origins half-assed and poorly
Or if the studio doesn’t interfere than it was only gonna be a trilogy but because they did they planed 3 mor movies a 4th, 5th and 6th movie but 5 and 6 were gonna have different actors like Andrew but when 4 didn’t happen and Raimey pulled out that’s when/why they rebooted
Guys let’s do what we did to get the Zack Snyder cut to get Marc Webb’s vision of the of Spider-Man, no interruptions from Sony just Webb’s script and Andrews acting and everyone else.
@@dxsolate it's train wreck...Kasady being a homeless man, resurrecting the dead? even if you do it in the comics it doesn't work out in the movie, Spider-Man crying because someone said the suit looks funny on him 🤣, the plot is sh*t actually it's more that sh*t...
Personally, I was hoping the Amazing Spider-Man went in the direction the video game went, where this universe was all about Cross Species genetics, starting with the Lizard. So, in this Universe, Doctor Octopus, Vulture, Rhino, Scorpion, Jackal, Beetle, Kangaroo, Tarantula, Puma, Iguana, Vermin, Leap-Frog, White Rabbit, Grizzly, Gibbon, etc. would all be some kind of Cross Species genetic villain. Heck, the Goblin of this universe could be this Hybrid creation that creates a new species: "The Goblin." Then it would give Kraven a good opening for his entrance, hunting the Cross Species that popped up all over New York.
A story always gets ruined whenever the studio takes control from the directors. More often than not, their vision is much more refined, developed, and focused on story and characters. While the studio want to please the fans with what they think those fans want. It really seems like their entire plan was to set up future films, without ever actually planning those films properly. Basically a bunch of bullet points on things they want to happen without developing why or how they happen. And it's clear their vision was heavily tied towards marketing. More villains, more heroes, more stuff. And they never considered how it would impact the story itself. Sony pushing for Iron Man to have a big role in _Homecoming_ probably lead to the complete lack of any mention towards Uncle Ben. I'm not asking for Peter to go in depth with his origin and share his darkest moment (I certainly wouldn't want to describe that original sin to people I look up to/care about), but mentioning his name would at least be something considering it was his death that pushed Peter to become Spider-man. But the desire to have Iron Man be on the poster lead to the writers having to find a way to work him in naturally, which might have pushed Uncle Ben out of the picture entirely
The Sinister Six? More like the Sinister Poopyheads.
*DESTRUCTION 100*
No
That wound will never fully heal. He will carry it the rest of his life.
got em
More like the Dirthy Half Dozen
Sinister Six: that's a cute outfit, did your husband give it to you?
Spider-Man: *starts crying*
Franoj that’s tobeys spiderman
From the sounds of things ASM's planned symbiote Spider-Man and Venom would have made Spider-Man 3's look great in comparison.
Xehanort10 it already is great
Franoj gonna cry????
@@SpiralTheFirst woosh
The idea that Peter attends grief Counselling meets Mary Jane and laches onto the symbiote in his grief and guilt is a pretty interesting idea.
Right? I thought the same thing
I think you just picked out the only good part about that plot
That's actually a good plot development for TASM 3. But the resurrecting thing is too much.
Alexis Xavier Rodríguez Velázquez from the words of Spider-Man tas “this sounds like a bad comic book plot”
Alexis Xavier Rodríguez Velázquez the resurrection was in the comics too it woulda been sick
Meanwhile, in an alternate universe where The Amazing Spider-Man 3 didn't get canceled.
I think that
In an alternate alternate universe where the sam rami trilogy didnt get canceled
@@Trash_man76541 I would’ve loved to have seen spiderman 4 and TASM 3 so much
@@generalgrievous2076 facts
Meanwhile, in a alternate universe Spider-Man is real
The idea that Spider-Man starts crying because his ARCH ENEMIES didn’t like his new outfit is hilarious to me
Look at little bully maguire Jr gonna cry
From what I’ve heard if they give Marc Webb creative control and let him make the movies these movies would of been a lot better with a more grounded/dark tone like the first one
Gregaphere that’s exactly what it was brother, same situation with Raimi in Spider-Man 3 essentially
Yeah. This is what happens when Sony starts pulling strings and making decisions. Even someone great as Sam Raimi was pressured to doing silly movie.
@@YungLanxx + They made the same mistake as SM3 with too much villains
TechnikLEO I think they could’ve managed having multiple villains as long as the script was naturally handled by the directors without studio interference. It would make it harder to handle but not impossible to do correctly, Raimi was forced to shoehorn Venom in his film against his wishes if he had a clear vision for Venom to be included on his own without being forced I see that film being much better.
ikr
The SS: “why is your suit black?”
Spider-man: *Starts to cry*
😂😂😂😂
Oh my God Karen, you can't just ask people why their suits are black!
Peter cries because the supervillain chads call him an emo dork.
Lmao
Lol
Rofl
haha
emo parkee
I loved TASM 1. TASM 2 felt like a different universe
It's like they were so desperate to create a shared universe that they flung to it balls out in the 2nd film. Like no, take your time and develop this world into that in a natural progression
TASM 1 was pretty ok,nothing great or even good for me.TASM 2 was dogshit
Actually not really tasm2 and tasm feel like the same
Same but the tasm2 suit is the best
I’ve never met anyone who “loved” TASM 1. I think you’re the first.
Btw, who knows that in a deleted scene, Richard Parker told Peter, the iconic Uncle Ben Line?
I do,I heard it
I have seen that scene.
Its on TH-cam now
anyone here remember sevenwebheads? 😭
I believe that channel was bought by FandomWire if I'm not mistaken.
Does sevenwebheads still do videos? Like, the guy who did the commentary?
Channel Pup Yeah. Really unfortunate.
Joshua Benitez No one knows what happened to him. He sold his channel to FandomWire and that’s all anyone knows. He was silent for years after Civil War released. Not even when they made Homecoming or Infinity War. He finally came out and said anything was when Stan Lee died. And has stil been silent ever since including when Endgame and Far From Home dropped. It’s a weird scenario. He was probably the biggest Spider Man fan ever. Such a mystery to this day.
@@samshughart3479 Thats because he was a TASM fan and probably wasnt a big fan of Tom Hollands but idk
The fact this ALMOST happened is why even after Into the Spider-Verse, I still am not trusting Sony without Marvel’s help
Different directors my friend, The spider-verse movie just had a good director.
@Zane Drake I said AFTER
@@billybutcher582 No. Sony had quite literally butchered every iteration of live action spider man which worked
@@billybutcher582 more like, not hands on,
it was animated...Sony said do what you want. I'd be more worried about the sequels now that sony sees the potential
You mean Disney cause marvel isn’t marvel
Andrew Garfield Spider-Man is still my favourite, I can’t help it my brain likes it the most
Tobey is better
Simp-
Jk
@@laangelsfan why
@@mushroomcupcake9288 The best Spiderman
4:41 I laughed out loud at this part, just imagine it 🤣:
Spider-man: Hey guys this symbiote is too strong for me can you help?
Doc Ock: That's a cute outfit, did your husband give it to you?
Sinister 6: Hahahahahaha!
Peter (sobbing): Uhh I hate u guys! You're always so mean to me!😭
BAHAHAHAHAHA
I really liked the TASM series, and I do mean both movies, but DAMN this sounds weird
Me to I liked the amazing Spider-Man 2 and loved the amazing Spider-Man 1 but this sounds just strange we get the sinister six carnage the black suit venom Mary Jane a Norman Osborn fakeout death and Spidey bringing people back to life not to mention Spidey crying because the sinister six bully him cletus Cassidy being homeless and peters dad
The black suit and Mary Jane sounds cool but why would they bring back peters dad
@@eugene4144 watch the deleted scenes from tasm 2
I’m not gonna lie, I enjoyed most of the sequel but somethings were unwatchable like the final fight of Spider-Man vs Electro or Electro in general except the Times Square send which is 100% awesome. It’s a shame the electro was bad because I love Jamie Fox
I did like the first one a lot though
00:00 Intro
02:54 Black Cat
05:04 Carnage
07:19 Venom/Black suit
07:42 The Sinister Six
09:53 Andrew being fired
I blame AVI ARAD for everything that went wrong with this franchise
It's actually his fault that Spider-Man 3 didn't turn out the way Sam Raimi wanted it to because Avi Arad forced Venom in there implying that he pretty much ruined the Sam Raimi trilogy.
@@Rotodojo-yf9sq I know, I even made a video about that if you wanna check out
th-cam.com/video/b61OhSIMSPE/w-d-xo.html
Vulture was supposed to be in Spider-Man 3 instead of Venom but then Vulture was saved for Spider-Man 4
Also venom
@@mohammedyusufahmed7589 it was actually sandman for Spider-Man 3 and for 4 vulture
5:09 Truly the cruellest, most evil thing Spider Man's villains have done to him. Laughing at his suit.
So basically all that nonsense about Marvel “ruining” Spider-Man and “not understanding the character” because of his connection with Tony was a bunch of bs. The entire time it was just Sony’s way of capitalizing on the popularity of the mcu. I... am not surprised tbh.
jayyTeęe s it should’ve been common sense to be honest I’ve been saying it since Homecoming was released, look at the difference between Peter in Captain America Civil War (primarily Disney produced) compared to Peter in Homecoming (primarily Sony produced).
Lanky Lanxx true
And Sadly, a lot of Spidey Fans are Ignoring this.
They're often say this as "Not true" or "still MCU faults" which is makes them Ignorant.
@@kiryusannagi5171
I mean... just because it's not being all done by Disney, doesn't mean they don't have a fault in it. They don't simply go "hey, we give you money and you do the movie". They know what they're spending it on and they sure as hell want to make it worth it. Guarantee they thought Iron-Man had to be somewhere in the movie to remind Sony that's the big character they own that really is the boss in charge.
@@radrno7
You sure?
This guy on the video said that Marvel want spider-man being a solo, in other words they originally don't want to put Iron man in the movie. Marvel probably made it more comedic but putting these character? without Uncle ben?
I find another explanation made by Midnight's edge and all of these happen because it was related to Sony/Marvel agreement. Go check his video i can't tell everythimg here.
I think it'd be cool if "bringing people back" meant that the venom symbiote was just showing him really vivid visions of the people he's lost coming back and talking to him. Maybe they blame him for their deaths and the symbiote was creating these visions to weaken peter and make him more reliant on venom so they fuse. Venom taking advantage of Peter blaming himself during this mourning period to betyer himself. The "Spider-Mare" if you will.
The sequel that ALMOST happened
And I'm so glad it never did.
Crisdean Mackinnon lol
@@somerandolad why?
Thank good it didn't
@@somerandolad ikr
The Sinister Six: You're ugly
Peter: *breaks down in tears, falling to his knees and then running away and went home to cry in the shower and listen to sad music*
lol this happened in into the spider verse
Peter: Why did this happen to MEEE???🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That Spider-Man 3 game audio in the back is so good
I love how you used Spider-Man 3 OST in the background. It was my favourite game on PS2.
@Lunar not on the PS2 tho
Who is here after rumours of Amazing Spiderman 3 in discussion?
🙋♂️
I love the black amazing spider-man 2 suit
Me to so awesome
facts
The death of Gwen Stacy scene is still great
I mean the final fight with electro and then goblin was God tier, the music goblin brought and the dark vibe was what everyone loves, the movie was great at those parts, if the movie felt like that more in the beginning and middle it woulda been better
It seems like there were a ton of ideas circulating around, but I doubt they would’ve just crammed all of them into one movie like this. It seems unlikely that the whole resurrecting the dead thing would’ve made it past the drawing board. But I have to say, Peter’s loss of Gwen is the PERFECT set up for him to become attached to Venom during that state of vulnerability.
Honestly I feel Marc Webb truly made his film, for the most part, with the first one. I actually really loved the first one, though see its flaws which most of the deleted scenes improve upon. The second one feels like studio meddeling along the lines of Rami's Spiderman 3. There are moments of greatness in TASM 2. The first act was quite good until the second half becomes a bunch of set up for the future. The Gwen sequence is beautiful and proves Garfield/Stone is the best on film relationship within the Spiderman films. This 3rd TASM films sounds like Sony took it from Webb and just made him do what they said. Webb, Garfield, Stone, and rest of the cast and crew deserved better. Sony fucked them over. That's why you let the director do his/her job.
Bro tasm 1 was 4 hours long....how did they think removing 2 hours was a great idea and there was like 8 hours of footage for tasm 2 and andrew literally cried after reading the original script for tasm 2 and said it was beautiful
@@yourfatboy5359are there any scenes from this 4 and 8 hour cut to find? Maybe on the blue ray bonus.
@@edwaaard46 nah they don't exist unfortunately, there is probably a 3 hour tasm1 film somewhere in sony's lockers.
So you're telling me that the one thing that people didn't like about homecoming-that-it was too much about iron man-was Sony's fault too?
So Carnage is Arthur Fleck?
The fact Sony was afraid that the most popular comic book character couldnt make money on his own 💀
If Andrew is really in NWH, the amazing Spider-Man 3 can happen
looks like it will happen
I actually LOVED TASM1. To date, it is my favorite Spider-man film, live action appearance and, live action iteration. I’ve been a Spider-man fan for 32 years and as an adult, I truly appreciated the more grounded, darker tone of the movie over the ultra campy Raimi series. Raimi couldn’t even make venom and the black suit dark, which in the comics, was an exceedingly dark time in Peter’s life. TASM2 was a mess. Not because of the number of villains, but because it was obvious Sony had their hands in the cookie jar much like they did with Spider-man 3 (and were trying to do with Spider-man 4 which consequently caused Raimi and crew to leave). Electro was written horribly, in my opinion, though I did like the struggle between Peter and Harry, that dynamic was actually welcomed. However, the film should’ve just focused on one villain and allow Harry to be developed more, similar to the Raimi series. I certainly think it was way too early to kill Gwen and they could’ve still introduced MJ without killing Gwen. Most people’s beef with AG as the starring role is they claim he’s too handsome/too cool. Again, as a fan for 32 years (I’m 41, so I started out in the late 80s with jumbo coloring books, Spider-man and his amazing fans, the Spider-man live action show and movie of that time), and especially owing old comics from the 70s though to today, that’s a very poor and clearly ignorant point. Peter Parker was NEVER considered “ugly” or “unattractive”. Yes, he was a nerd, but he wasn’t exactly meek or fearful. In fact, in the story showcasing his origin, he actually had plans and executed said plan to ask Cheerleader Liz Allan to accompany him as a date to the science fair where he was bitten. You know how much courage it takes to be in Peter’s position in the social hierarchy of his school to ask a top cheerleader out on a date? She declined, of course, because he is a nerd and, the optics of that would be devastating to her popularity. After peter acquired his powers, that boosted his confidence even more, and what do you know, he started dating Liz Allan, then Betty Brant, so on. There’s no reason to assume or believe Peter shouldn’t be attractive, so Andrew Garfield being handsome should not be a knock at the movie. He certainly wasn’t “too cool” in the film either. He got picked on, and if you say he wasn’t, maybe you weren’t paying attention. I can name two points in the film before getting his powers where he was victimized by Flash and crew. People need to understand, Spider-man is sort of a comedian in a dark world. He’s putting his life on the line to save the day while joking the whole time. TASM1 captures that and, to an extent, the beginning (first 10 mins or so) of TASM2 captured that. Sam Raimi decided to make the Spider-man world comedic and light, that made it hard to take the movie serious, the banter was almost nonexistent and Raimi appears to depend on Slapstick comedy to showcase the typical comedy of spider-man comics; a very important part of Spider-man’s comic IS his banter, NOT situational comedy. I could go on about the differences of style between Webb and Raimi (and I don’t mention the MCU version because to me, they trend back towards the Raimi style and I disliked those films). I just know, as a life long Spider-man fan, I enjoyed TASM1 most of all. No movie will do everything perfect, we will always have “artist input” from the directors, the writers.
I agree on everything you said sir
I love the amazing spider man 1 and I agree with everything you said about it
I'd like to see a Spider-Man movie set in the 60's.
Dude Avi Arad needs to back off he’s the reason SM 3 failed so ASM 3 was probably gonna be bad if Spidey gets rebooted tell avi to stay out of this one
I hate Avi arad
If TASM 3 happen,Andrew’s career would be ruined
Tbf to Sony, some of their ideas actually did sound kinda cool. Introducing the symbiote after the death of Gwen as an unhealthy coping mechanism, a Silver Sable movie, a Black Cat movie, an actual Venom spinoff, etc. It's mainly just the stuff with the Sinister Six & the Goblins that seemed a little too chaotic / pointless. But I would still be totally watching them out of sheer curiosity in some alternate universe.
That spider-man 3 video game music in the background tho
Personally I think we could have had an entire spin-off film dedicated to Spider-Man going up against the Sinister Six and then after that we would get the Amazing Spider-Man 3 where Spider-Man gets the black suit and fights venom for the first time
Yesssssss.... A video, I wanted, but never thought Channel Pup, would make.😀😀😀😀😀
I just wish Sony knows that the fans haven't given up on Spider-Man 4 and TASM 3
Andrew: im sick
Sony: reboot time
I will admit, I think it was for the best that this movie was cancelled and keep in mind, I liked the first Amazing Spiderman movie. The second one I thought was alright. But after hearing the ideas of the movies and how it might go, I honestly might hate this movie. Just saying.
The best thing we can get is Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland in a live action Spider Verse movie. After Doctor Stranger Multiverse of Madness, this is the best thing we can get. Maybe even Spider Man 3 (Marvel) can have a small tease
Alex Singh doctor strange*
Welp, GG
They might be doing something similar to that
u were right
@@orion3786 I Am happy 😂
I find these planned/failed productions, especially movies, so fascinating! I thought I knew most of the things regarding TASM 3, but Channel Pup showed a lot more. Very interesting. So would venom already be established? I guess he would end up having the same origin as his recent movie, since originaly Spider-Man gets the Symbiote first, then it goes on eddy. And how about the Lizard and Electro? I remember reading at the time that the two would return in the Sinister Six. The Lizard, btw, being mind-controlled by a collar in the helm of Green Goblin. Man, what could have been! Very intriguing thats for sure! Awesome video dude
I remembered Marc Webb saying that Norman’s head would transform into Ultimate Green Goblin. I swear I heard this but it could be wrong.
Channel pup you're telling me it wasn't originally intended for Iron Man to be in the movie of Spider-Man homecoming but it was actually Sony's decision for that.
@siddharth bhawra Eh, "big part" is little overblown. He has 3 scenes in the movie. But yeah, i doubt Marvel would push for Iron Man to be in it. It's obviously Sony's idea so they can promote the new Spiderman as part of MCU. That's why in every single trailer they had Iron Man and even had fake shots of Spiderman swinging alongside Iron Man flying.
@Sidb Nah. Homecoming was great movie.
@@blyzer7373 Still, the Fact that the Movie didn't do pretty well on terms of Story is kinda sad to me. This Marvel/Sony Collaboration is a mess.
And you know what's more messed up?
The fanbase blame Marvel and Kevin for this
Kinda sad that they didn’t use that version of Mary Jane. It would have been interesting
Not gonna lie this sounds way worse then the Raimi Spider-man 3 movie lol!. They would of ruined the Carnage character too!.
Ey ey raimis spoderman 3 is a cult classic and real cinema. Watch the editors cut
@@davornaglic7491 stop deluding yourself. Sony completely fucked raimi over
@Lord NicCage Yep. Sony ruined practically everything spiderman related, EXCEPT for spider-verse. Into the spider verse was a great movie
I love Andrew Garfield's Spidey, it felt the most natural. That said, a hero is only as great as his villains, I just think having too many people in a movie bloats it was a whole. Let the characters develop, more importantly, let the viewers immerse themselves into the characters before you shove: ACTION!! ACTION!! ACTION!! down the fans' throats. Less is more, 2 well-thought out villains can carry impact exponentially if written right. But 6 villains is a little O. D.
You’re one of my favourite youtubers
If only Andrew would’ve attended at the event where they where gonna announce the 3rd film then we would’ve actually got it he got fired for not attending that’s so dumb 🤦🏻♂️
Fr I was really hyped for the 3rd and 4th movie
The creature at 4:37 is scarier than any villains.
Lol
Who else hate that they moved the comments?
The "Norman Osborn head in a jar" sounds so cliche.
This feels like it would more so be a tv show
Famous Indian Actor Irrfan Khan who played the role of Rajit Ratha in the 1st one was going to be the part of Sinister Six Group❤️. Unfortunately The the 3rd One didn't happen😟. And the Worst Part is Irrfan is no longer present between us 🤧 May his soul Rest in Peace 🙏.
WHAT ROLE WAS HE GOING TO PLAY
@@sirjunior9006 I don't know but Marc Webb the director of the TASM series planned to make him the part of the sinister 6 team for the upcoming films I once read that in an article..
When I saw the mask, I didn’t know that it was for Mysterio, I always thought that it was Chamaeleon’s mask
Actually the idea of where Cletus Kassady is coming from (a homeless man become a pyschopath because of the carnage of society) actually isn't a bad idea. Marvel Spiderman 3 take notes.
w e l i v e i n a s o c i e t y
Theres no point since there wont be venom.the whole point of carnage originally is that hes a stronger venom
@@robespierre2837 What are you talking about? Venom is gonna be in Marvels Spider-Man 2.
A Carnage solo film can be Marvel's Joker
Carnage is gonna appear in Venom 2
It's been so long now since number 2, so let's be honest with ourselves, we'd all still watch it just to see Andrew as spiderman again.
Andrews back baybee
12:03 So the big thing fans have been criticising Marvel on... was something done by Sony...
Spiderman Fans has Fallen to this Mistaken Truth.
Andrew was the best spidey , the character and the costume were so clean
Toby : best Peter Parker
Andrew: best Spider-Man
@@namsounamsou4099 i agree and TASM 1 was the best spiderman movie
@@paulvarus859 for you
@@namsounamsou4099 of course
@@paulvarus859 yeah
Yeah that film was better off not being made
The reason he was fired was because he was going to Brazil for the 2014 World Cup to advertise TASM3 but decided to not go last minute
No he was there he didn't come down to dinner to Kaz Hirai Sony President and CEO 2012-2018
The dramatic music in the background 😂
AHA! The return of NordVPN! This is 100% gonna be a banger then
I honestly think that the amazing spiderman should've been made a series, with all the stuff that was going on, you can have venom at the beginning of the season, then the second half of it can be building up with battles with the future members of the sinister six, giving them a reason to hate spider man, then the next season could focus on the build up to him being defeated by the six, then the second half he builds up strength, using the black suit in a explosive two part season finale.
That would be cool, but a Spider-Man show would never be made because of the budget it would require. There’s no way they’d make the money back on a show. It would be at least a $1 billion budget to have a Spider-Man show that’s film quality
@@sportssequencereserve7137 they could do it animated.
Although I was excited for The Amazing Spider-Man 3, I’m kinda glad Sony cancelled it cause looking back on Amazing Spider-Man 2, now that I’m older, I do see it’s flaws. PS, having Spider-Man integrated in the MCU with the rest of his Marvel brethren was the best move Sony made.
@Angus Ng no
The MCU did
They were just put andrew in Civil War
3:24 “The Amazing Spider-Man: Resurrection.”
That’s a weird plot
If they waited and killed Gwen in The Amazing Spider-Man 4 or 5 , they wouldn't going to think about bringing people back to life
I'd love to see the film because it left so many questions. I love tasm bc it revealed the story of Peters family and so mutch more and Andrew and Emma were perfect together. For me personaly the next films would be a pleasure to watch but i don't think they are coming anymore...
i guess im the only person who loved the amazing spiderman movies , i grew up with toby but andrew came when i was in high school to me andrew looks just like peter from the 90s cartoon same hair too!!
Well, looks like this movie might actually happen now
I always assumed TASM 3 would've been venom. Venom wasn't part of the sinister six and a venom movie was supposed to come out before it.
8:39 that’s the falcon chilling to the left
I wonder how all the Garfield fans that said Toby cried too much would have reacted to this movie?
I hate how we have never seen an amazing Spider man 3.
Is it weird that the writer in me almost wants to take a stab at this? Of course it’s way easier to work all this stuff into a prose story as opposed to film, but it could prove a fun mental exercise.
I love these two movies purely because of Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone
They could’ve had the amazing spiderman 2 be pretty much the same as the dark knight. Green Goblin in the place of Joker, tombstone and hammerhead as the crime bosses. Gwen in the place of Rachael and still kill her off
yes bro or even kingpin, he coulda been the "joker" of the film, i saw the comic with symbiote Spiderman versing kingpin,
What could’ve been 😭
@@IIIISai that wasn’t symbiote Spider-Man it was Spider-Man in the black suit that black car had made for him and it was after Civil War
@@thelittlepasty8360 so the suit had no power?
@@IIIISai no it was just a cloth suit with the same design
Tobey Maguire- Spectacular Spider-Man
Andrew Garfield- Amazing Spider-Man
Tom Holland- Ultimate Spider-Man
Legendary Fritz they needs to team up to save the world and then Toby and Andrew go back to their worlds
😂 Tobey * will be the serious one, Andrew will be funny one and Tom Holland will be the annoying cracking lame jokes as he fights ofc 😅
S Battle they actually plan on doin that in the future since Sony is planning on keeping Tom Holland in the MCU
S Battle Maybe Tobey will be a mentor to Tom so that he can grow to be his own hero and when he sees Andrew and Tobey fight he might throw some lame jokes but at the end he’ll mainly learn to be himself and not base his heroism on what the others do and instead find his own methods which will probably happen in the 3rd movie due to him finally being alone, but u do have to take into heart that Tom’s Spider-Man is only 16 or 17 meaning that he will still be a bit cringe and dorky but with these new idols ,that will hopefully appear in a spider-verse movie, they could teach him some new things that he could try and do plus it’s said that he might be the future leader of the new avengers so even if they decide to do the spider-verse or not, the MCU peter will grow up and become his own hero and soon might even be like the Tobey Spider-Man since he was a criminal he might have hard times with finding jobs and friends besides Ned
Legendary Fritz that would be nice especially since Tobey Spider-Man seemed to be the most serious and best overall fighter would be good se him suit back up
I would prefer SM4 than TASM 3
I think we all would lol.
Speedy Eagle 15 yup
I still don't understand why they even rebooted it in the first place. Okay, Sam Raimi didn't wanna do 4th one/couldn't meet the deadline but like, just get another director to do it? You did it anyway with Mark Webb... But i guess they just wanted to recycle his origins half-assed and poorly
I agree atheist Sam had a vision and just wanted to make a story of the character
Or if the studio doesn’t interfere than it was only gonna be a trilogy but because they did they planed 3 mor movies a 4th, 5th and 6th movie but 5 and 6 were gonna have different actors like Andrew but when 4 didn’t happen and Raimey pulled out that’s when/why they rebooted
Sony missed the part where that's their problem.
Guys we're living in the best timeline where MCU Spidey is a thing instead of this
I am very very happy.
MCU Spider-Man sucks though
@@izzymaedavidson1974 nah he's the best Spiderman to date
@@braunroberts7278 Nah. He is the worst
Braun Roberts Holland’s version is absolutely horrendous from the Disney channel original format to the complete disregard and insult to uncle ben
Resurrection from the dead sounds like the Clone Saga.
I would've loved to see Shailene Woodley as Mary Jane,I think she could've done an amazing job in the role. Andrew is my favorite spiderman.
5:03 not only does this not making sense but I'm how more clearer can you get that it's totally not true?
Guys let’s do what we did to get the Zack Snyder cut to get Marc Webb’s vision of the of Spider-Man, no interruptions from Sony just Webb’s script and Andrews acting and everyone else.
8:30 why is falcon there on the left side😂
Critics actually loved this film more then BVS
Enough said
Critics no nothing
Ngl the idea of the Sinister 6 laughing at Spidey’s new suit when he asks for help makes them sound like schoolyard bullies
This movie sounds like a train wreck, I'm kinda glad that they ended it then and there in Amazing Spider-Man 2
How? It sounds like a superior sequel to TASM2. If we’re talking about stopping movies, they shouldn’t have even done Tasm2. Or made it differently.
@@dxsolate it's train wreck...Kasady being a homeless man, resurrecting the dead? even if you do it in the comics it doesn't work out in the movie, Spider-Man crying because someone said the suit looks funny on him 🤣, the plot is sh*t actually it's more that sh*t...
The emails make it sound like Amy pascal hates Spider-Man
Imagine marvel Studios Getting Rights for spiderman
Personally, I was hoping the Amazing Spider-Man went in the direction the video game went, where this universe was all about Cross Species genetics, starting with the Lizard. So, in this Universe, Doctor Octopus, Vulture, Rhino, Scorpion, Jackal, Beetle, Kangaroo, Tarantula, Puma, Iguana, Vermin, Leap-Frog, White Rabbit, Grizzly, Gibbon, etc. would all be some kind of Cross Species genetic villain. Heck, the Goblin of this universe could be this Hybrid creation that creates a new species: "The Goblin." Then it would give Kraven a good opening for his entrance, hunting the Cross Species that popped up all over New York.
A story always gets ruined whenever the studio takes control from the directors. More often than not, their vision is much more refined, developed, and focused on story and characters. While the studio want to please the fans with what they think those fans want.
It really seems like their entire plan was to set up future films, without ever actually planning those films properly. Basically a bunch of bullet points on things they want to happen without developing why or how they happen.
And it's clear their vision was heavily tied towards marketing. More villains, more heroes, more stuff. And they never considered how it would impact the story itself. Sony pushing for Iron Man to have a big role in _Homecoming_ probably lead to the complete lack of any mention towards Uncle Ben. I'm not asking for Peter to go in depth with his origin and share his darkest moment (I certainly wouldn't want to describe that original sin to people I look up to/care about), but mentioning his name would at least be something considering it was his death that pushed Peter to become Spider-man. But the desire to have Iron Man be on the poster lead to the writers having to find a way to work him in naturally, which might have pushed Uncle Ben out of the picture entirely
I think that a movie where Spiderman fights sinister six with the black suit is something we should see some day
Tobey and Andrew will forever be the best Spider-Men
The Norman Osbourne bit sounds on character