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Clearly it would be absolutely dumb for him to do so, but do you think Todgers is claiming the Guinness WR book he is featured in is what he means by "his book"?
I think the most ludicrous part of the whole saga is that the game is Dragster. Not Super Mario Bros. Not Pac-Man, nor Centipede, nor Pokemon, nor Minecraft, nor Tetris. None of the most respected or well-known games in the history of video games, but freaking Dragster. It's both hilarious and so very sad
I think his obsession with Dragster ties to the contest that was held by Activision back when the game was released. The contest was for money and fame, which Todd cheated for, and milked dry long ago.
Imagine you're a child and dream about being a judge, serving justice, upholding the law, punishing criminals and protecting the innocent. And then reality hits you and you have to reply to Todger's incoherent love letters instead.
@@merrisshines5182its the saddest thing ever. I remember watching his segment on Chasing Ghosts and just being saddened that he just ended up an old loser in a broken down living room surrounded by tarantula cases playing his old games alone
“To clog up the legal system with things of such a trivial nature requires a special kind of cognitive dysfunction.” Damn, Karl, he’d probably be furious about that if he could figure out what half those words mean.
Seriously. An exposé on the shady inner workings of early video game records. Funny these guys are too arrogant and selfish to see that they have an actual opportunity.
That is until people realize they could pirate the book, living up to Todd Todger's legacy in the process. Not that I condone piracy normally but...if it's Todd Todger's who'd profit I don't mind.
Ha. Even if everything in this ridiculous document WERE true, it's up to Guinness and Twin Galaxies to grant or retract awards from anyone, for any or no reason. Todd is such a failure at all things.
"They have no place in our society." Now now, Karl... My mama always told me, 'You can be a good example, or a horrible warning, but either way, you're doing something.' Todd is just fulfilling the 'Horrible warning' quota for rather a lot of people, that's all.
A horrible warning can be fixed or turned around for the better... The problem is Todd din't move on and fix his mistakes. Instead he doubled down on lies despite all factual evidence saying otherwise. That's why he remained in the "Horrible warning", which should serve as a lesson for what not to do.
@@ashurad_fox5991 That was exactly my mother's point. Some people are good for nothing BUT being a horrible warning, but at least such people are being of SOME use.... By showing other people just how badly their poor behavior has gone for them.
Frivolous lawsuits really sicken me. I very much know how it feels being sued. My company is being sued by a competitor for no reason other than trying to get me bankrupt due to legal fees. It made 2022 the most stressful year of my life. Two weeks ago the court finally decided to rule in my favor and rejected every single claim the plaintiff made (all 7) and I got rewarded about 15% of my actual lawyers fees. Yesterday I received an email from their lawyers telling me they are going to appellate court. Looks like 2023 won't be much of a change... We really need some better/decent laws in place to stop frivolous lawsuits!
Depending on what the lawsuit was about and where you live, it could be a "SLAPP" (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation), which some states have laws against (if you aren't in the US there's probably some similar concept in your jurisdiction). Even in states with "Anti-SLAPP" laws it can be hard to recover under though.
That's outrageous. In Finland, the losing party always pays for the legal fees for the winning one (the idea being, you don't sue unless you're damn sure you're winning it).
When you described what Tortious Interference was, my first thought was that he'd be suing Twin Galaxies for ruining his contract with Guinness by telling them the record was fake in the first place. I didn't think it would be smart or valid, but I mean, at least it would look somewhat like a lawsuit and not just an expensive piece of paper
The Tortuous Interference must have been extremely thorough so that it completely removed Todd's book and all its traces from existence. Considering he can't even find it himself, that's the only explanation.
Maybe the reason Twin Galaxies is called that is because they actually possess sci-fi technology, including a time machine which they've used to erase Rogers's book from the timeline.
The thing is, he could ACTUALLY make money telling his story of how he faked it all those years and the lengths he had to go through to hide/ obfuscate/ lie in order to keep it going (including the old Twin Galaxies culpability)
Actually, more than that. Someone who had faked scores for so many games, who couldn't even get close to replicating them live, should be *amazing* at recognizing fake runs and other tomfoolery... or should I say "Todd-foolery". Kinda like how an IT company would want to have a professional "hacker" to stress-test their own security systems and then patch whatever holes they discover. Forget a book, Todd could get paid to be the guy calling out other people for faking their speed-runs!
@@onijester56 except he didn't even put the kind of effort into his fakes that would be needed to get past modern moderation, he just pulled numbers out of his ass and quoted them to crony friends who put them on the leaderboards without checking.
@@onijester56 "Kinda like how an IT company would want to have a professional "hacker" to stress-test their own security systems and then patch whatever holes they discover. Forget a book, Todd could get paid to be the guy calling out other people for faking their speed-runs!" He's not some genius adept at manipulating code that anyone would pay him for that skill. He just got known off one grainy polaroid, and got buddy buddy with Walter Day and made up a bunch of times/scores.
There really should be some sort of law that says you only get so many failed lawsuits total and you're just completely barred from filing anymore. Then again, we wouldn't get this kind of gold stories about people like Togers anymore...
Karl does that on purpose, he never insults or demeans him, only states facts like the record is literally impossible. He could get sued for saying Todd is stupid, but how do you sue someone for saying you're smart?
@@insanospaz alternatively you should be required to pay all legal fees for both parties and only get refunded if you finally win after you get hit with a what's it called SLAPP?
This is his life. He has nothing to live for except for this. He’s got nothing else and it’s pathetic. Take this as a cautionary tale on what NOT to become ladies and gents.
I'm not saying this to defend his actions, but when you base your entire personality on a lie, it can feel like you're being personally attacked when people come along and they tell the truth about you.
@@dustinjames1268 Why are you saying it then? Of course, you may be right that this is how he sees it himself. But how does that matter at all, and how does it change anything about what he's doing or what he's done? You must've brought it up for SOME reason.
@@RiskOfBaer I don’t get why people instantly shut down anything that resembles trying to see where the opposition comes from. It’s _very_ easy to oversimplify and defamiliarise anyone you disagree with. Guy who replied to you wasn’t even playing devil’s advocate, literally just gave a reason why a person might think the way they do. You even admitted they might be right, so what’s the problem?
There's a poetry in people being so obsessed with their reputation that they will overly react to the first damage to it, to the point of destroying it in the process. As for Todgers, he is great entertainment ! I go through so many emotions whenever he's involved ! His obsession is sad, his resilience inspiring, his method revolting, and his incompetence hilarious.
With Todgers there is the part where he seems to have faked everything he did not just the dragster record. Still I guess he has tied his entire ego to that dragster record.
Let's say he really achieved that record, multiple times. He's now had decades to provide or create video evidence of that. He knows it's possible, he knows the method, he's clearly willing to dedicate his life into proving it. If he had just spent entire time attempting to replicate that record and kept camera rolling, by all odds he should have eventually succeeded in that, even by accident. But he's done literally anything but that. That's all the evidence I need.
@@EugenIustin it's not like an extreme sport or complex game or anything like that Unless he's got arthritis, it shouldn't be that hard to get that score
"Most fake" in which sense - the greatest number of fake records, or the records that are the fakest? I think Todd is good for fakest, with his being technically not feasible, while Bitchell still takes the one for highest number, with the fake DK record scores.
@@davedixon2167 Todd had "held" over 1700 high scores in various games on Twin Galaxies. All of these were removed by new management, after more than a hundred of those were flagged by community as exceptionally suspicious or impossible.
@@davedixon2167 yeah numerous of those claimed scores couldn't even be processed or displayed by the game due to having too many digits, or weren't possible due to score keeping logic of the game, such as when a game only increments the score in 50 point increments starting from 0 but the submitted score ends with a "9". Plus quite a lot of scores orders of magnitude above known good players. Todd probably never even played most of the games he submitted high scores on.
When Karl said “to look like an absolute” I just filled in “legend” in my head out of reflex. And I felt sad. But then he hit us with “douche bag” and it was cathartic
I remember reading a funny story about Rogers on a retro gamers blog several years ago. This guy was at a retro gaming convention and he had a rented a booth to sell his stuff. He happened to have two loose copies of Dragster on his table that were for sale. He said Rogers stopped by and they talked for several minutes. He said Todd was very nice and that they had a good conversation. A little later on he needed to use the bathroom so he had his young son watch over things while he was gone. When he got back he later noticed that Rogers had autographed both copies of Dragster without asking permission to do so. He included pictures of the carts in his blog post and Rogers had signed them and included his fake time as part of the autograph. He said he didn't ever say anything but it bothered him that Rogers had done this without his permission.
Todd and Karl are in cahoots. I got it all figured out. There's no way the esteemed Mr. Togers, holder of the world's oldest video game record (and probably the coolest and most impressive feat in human history if we're being honest), renowned ladies man, expert strategist, and all around staple of the gaming community, could possibly be doing something this stupid without some bigger plan. It must be for content. Yep, that's what it is.
Honestly Todd probably should publish a book. If he wrote a book about his whole story, including coming clean about the cheating, and how exactly he did it all, that'd probably make him a lot of money.
Chaper 1. The Cheat One day in 1982 I spoke with a friendly Twin Galaxies referee. - Will you accept my fake 5.51 record? - No problem, Todd. Chapter 2. The Fame ...
I thought Paul Blart the mall cop was the thumbnail, and I was happy that he managed to make a new career in gaming to help pay for his situation after the last documentary about his life.
The judges are gonna love how much of a waste of time these lawsuits are. As soon as the judge hears "video game" he or she is gonna go "I don't get paid enough for this shit... Plaintiff gets nothing, have a nice day"
This situation has stopped being funny once these weirdos started suing everyone left and right so props to you Karl for keeping up the great humor, you really killed it with the closing statement lmao. All the best man, take care.
The craziest thing from this, is that he originally tries to battle this in court back in 2017. He loses the case, and goes dormant for 5 years, and comes back to retry a case basically the same lawsuit but with a different way to sue for the same amount that he tried to get 5 years ago in order to not be legally be in a double jeopardy situation in which a person cannot sue for the same charges twice after the first was dismissed or closed or a mistrial, whichever the case occurred. At least if I was a judge that's the conclusion I would have come to anyhow. It's so crazy that these people because of something so trivial they accomplished over 30 years ago, and because the courts deemed it not even worthy to even try any of these cases, Todd and Billy basically doubles and triples down by attempting to sue basically for the same case under different wording to get the same amount of money they originally sued for years ago.. How much more stupidity can you get... Now that's "legendary" there. Legendary idiotic beings that gain more status by being more idiotic than years ago over a score..
@@MacGuffin1 i dont see how that's ironic. Nor do i see it as necessarily accurate. He's equally laughable at both, and referring to his interactions as "skills" is giving him more credit than he's due.
A more accurate thing would be to say "it's not about money, it's about ego" because if they'd just accept that they cheated they could write a book about that and actually profit from their notoriety.
I remember my high school teacher talking about this guy and how much of a cheat he was and how he was being ridiculous with his lawsuit. I feel that was forever ago. Almost 10 years and he's still fighting over this ridiculous thing.
Todd Rogers is the kind of person who makes you feel better about yourself for not being him. No matter how much of a failure you think you are. Even if you work a job you hate, have zero self-esteem/confidence, and think you're better off dead... You're still a better human than Todd Rogers.
@@RatAndRaven yeah but there's still court fees which can accumulate really fast, and representing yourself most of the time is how you make sure you lose your own lawsuit.
Imagine spending years of your life like Todd and Billy, they peaked decades ago and won’t let it go. Whenever you think your life kinda sucks at times, think of them, you’ll feel better.
I think my life kinda sucks a lot, and this actually helps me a little yeah. It's sad though. These guys are fighting for a sliver of their former glory (that was fake from the start anyways) like it's all they have. I think it makes sense that Todd was quite young when he achieved the impossible. Maybe he went with his dumbass teenage ideas, got lucky, and thus was never forced to deal with the real world. I wonder what his childhood was like. Something tells me "good" or similar aren't words he would think of if asked this question.
It's not even that they peaked, it's that they ran a scam. And the point of a successful scam is to *disappear* before your marks realize they've been scammed, which these two clowns have failed magnificently at
@@onikoneko The world record part of this scam of theirs is what guaranteed their doom, cause they couldn't just disappear. They held world records which were impossible and so could only be beated by another even dumber scammer lmao, they were destined to remain in the public light.
What is truly sad are the judges and system that even humor these lawsuits, because even if frivolous and false they still drag innocent people into financial troubles. A lawsuit like this should be dismissed write from the beginning from any reasonable judge.
When I was editor of GameRoom Magazine, Todd called me up one day and asked me to send him one copy of every issue that mentioned him (I didn't do it). That told me everything I needed to know about Todd...
1. This video is the funniest ultimate roast I’ve ever seen 2. I wish I was there to see the judge/the defendant’s lawyer when they read Rodgers’ lawsuit and burst out laughing
I'm pretty sure what he's trying to say in his lawsuit, is that they knew he had a contract with a publisher to write a book, and they publicly announced the removal of his record, and because of that the publisher backed out of the contract so the book he wrote never got released. Hence why you can't find it anywhere.
As much as I love Karl's analytical brain dealing with speedrunning records, there is nothing to make my day funnier than videos on Mitchell and Rodgers. Can't wait for the next one already!
@@wilh3lmmusic OMG: «One lawsuit, in which George W. Bush was the first-named defendant, also includes another 783 defendants that cover 57 pages. They include Plato, Nostradamus, Che Guevara, James Hoffa, "Various Buddhist Monks," all survivors of the Holocaust, the Lincoln Memorial, the Eiffel Tower, the USS Cole, the book Mein Kampf, the Garden of Eden, the Roman Empire, the Appalachian Trail, Plymouth Rock, the Holy Grail, Nordic gods, the dwarf planet Pluto, and the entire Three Mile Island accident.»
Okay, so, few things to say here. 1: It's been said that a person who represents themself in court has a fool for a client, but this is just nuts. 2: Not gonna lie, when I saw the title, I honestly thought it was gonna be a video about Tim. 3: Vexatious Litigation. The repetition of Todd's lawsuits is probably enough for the offended parties to claim harassment. (I'm not a lawyer though.)
Harassment’s a high bar to clear. Two suits might not be enough. Filing the crap he drafted himself on baseless claims enough times can be enough for a judge to not allow him to file further lawsuits unless he hires an attorney and actually listens to them or a judge reads his complaint and allows it to be filed. Rare punishments to be meted out, access to courts by everyone is important to our system, but sometimes warranted.
Seriously, why does Togers think he can reclaim that old glory? It’s over. Nobody would know about Dragster these days if it weren’t for him. He’s a known liar. Clogging up the legal system is ineffective.
As a lawyer, I have to give you a lot of praise for this video, like your other law-related videos. As far as it goes for TH-cam content produced by non-lawyers, it really is top notch and shows a real engagement with the issues. Any attorney would be quite proud to have such a sophisticated client-and happier still to represent you on a case as hilarious and near-sanctionable as this.
Its always pissed me off that they said he held the record since 1980 but there was literally a published Activision magazine that showed the record holders being Chuck Hunter and son from 1981
I already felt like this lawsuit was gonna fail hard just like the last one, but once you said that he’s doing it without a lawyer this time, that’s just a guarantee that this will fail even harder. No one should ever try to represent themselves in any legal case, let alone a second stab at suing someone.
"The man who represents himself has a fool for a client." - common saying of unknown origin Anyone who represents themselves likely doesn't have enough emotional distance from the situation to make sound logical arguments.
@@mwperk02 I was curious about that and it makes sense given it can’t be someone that’s also personally involved in the case, though I feel like it’s still objectively better than someone with zero legal experience trying to be their own lawyer.
On behalf of all Todd's we hereby renounce this one, he shall be known forthwith as "T-Dummy" or also acceptable is "T-Bag" we thank you for your understanding on this matter. Sincerely, Todd G. ~ World Wide resource manager of the United Todd's foundation.
The more I watch these Todd Rogers videos, the more I'm convinced this was the man that used to hang with my dad and grow magic mushrooms with in the 90s.
1:00 "Those who look closely might notice that I've made a career of talking about video game scores." As a longtime subscriber, fan, and supporter of this channel, I can assure you that I only had to watch a few dozen videos to initially notice this detail. As a pro gamester, I pick up on these things pretty darned quick. I guess it was time you let the cat out of the bag. I wonder how long it'll take the smooth brains to figure out your other big focus. Hint: it has to do with time
Karl you''re missing a crucial point! The reason you can't find his book is precisely because of how much damaged Guinness did to him!! It definitely would've been the best book ever and its a shame that we'll never get to enjoy a literary work with such a human element to it
Yeah it was life changing lol. I never knew such a book could be used to elevate my television just at the right height... Thanks Todd for making the book lol
I think Todd was trying to say that he receives royalties from the sales of Guinness' books that listed his fake WR but worded it in the most awkward way possible.
A good theory, but Guinness book does not give royalties or payments to those it features. All you get is fame and notoriety. Even if it did, with how many people there are featured in those books, you'd likely be looking at fractions of pennies per copy sold. Hard to see how it could amount to the money he's claiming in any scenario.
The saddest part of this is that despite how hilariously awful bad lawsuits such as these are, real people are actually receiving them and having to spend tens of thousands of dollars fighting them.
@FrigidYeti if he keeps this up, 10 years later when the game became public domain... People will disect the code. (Considering I'm also a software porgrammer... I might go ahead and datamine it when it became public domain)
@@ashurad_fox5991 that already happened, furry. A guy analyzed the game code and so it was universally accepted that a time of 5.51 is not possible within the game.
@FrigidYeti this just in todgers suing Billy Mitchell after this new discovery because of todgers herculean ego n not allowing someone to OUTSUE him The lawsuit will be for ONE MILLION dollars plus additional damages n lawyer fees of course How will Mitchell respond
Geez, I would feel bad for the team that would would even just skim his information regarding this for context. Like seriously... There are too many. And all of them show just how narcissistic he is.
My thesis is that Todd is purposely doing this, to provide Karl with material and us with entertainment. He is secretly a true hero, like Batman at the end of the Dark Knight.
The double spacing in his filing there is… I mean, how do I put this… it’s astonishing how much it looks like the complaint is begging to be a picture book.
Good ol' Todd Toddler back at it again. I can always count on your videos to make my day better. Just let this a lesson, never rely on WikiHow to make a legal document. Lmao
I actually met Todd and became friends with him, spoke over voice, and even played Wizard101 with the guy. There was always something fishy. He asked my girlfriend at the time for indecent pictures behind my back. Won't say anything hateful so I don't get sued lol
I saw Todd Rogers at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Hey Karl, you absolute legend. It would be cool if you could reach out to a youtube lawyer and get them to read/explain what they interpret it as, and I'm sure there are some out there who would love to do it.
You don't need a lawyer to explain something that wasn't written by a lawyer. You might get them to list and explain what he should have filed. I wouldn't be shocked if this were dismissed without leave to amend.
Imagine this. The Mitchell and “Todgers” anime. Karl is laying on the ground after taking a devastating “Donkey-Donkey-Kong” (Ripoff of kamehameha) and Billy-aru comes over to give a final cease and desist notice, when out of nowhere Todd-aru has his redemption arc start, he does an early shift dragster style and sweeps in in front of Karl to take the blow that would have inevitably ended him, and in his final breath he says “It was fake, it was all faked. Now Go and stop this monster” but at this point Billy is already a huge flaming ass (donkey) in nothing but his super Mario boxers getting ready to splice Karl and Todd in half. But no, Karl reaches into his pocket to find… The Golden Gun, Karl looks down and runs diagonally towards him damage boosts himself right into Billy’s acorn balls crippling him for seconds, and Karl transforms into his final form, a tiny alien with a snorkel. Billy says “How could this be, my cranium is quintupled the size of your whole body, I should’ve outsmarted you years ago.” then Karl says “Thanks to manscaped I move much faster due to aerodynamic lack of pubes and my ridge wallet keeps my keys from holding me back” then he strafes away facing downwards as to not be slowed by lag, and throws one final nade into the air. Billy shits himself and try’s to run from the grenade, but it’s no use. His ridiculous hair makes it’s way under his foot causing him to trip, and fall, inevitably being victim to the nade. Nothing more remains but a crater, an ugly hairpiece that looks like a moth, and a Hawaiian t shirt with mustard stains.
For Todd, he was even proven wrong when people decided to use TAS. (Which couldn't even make that score) Seriously as a software programmer, I would want to sermon how idiotic his claims are. If he said it was real, then why not do it again? Like he said he could. (It's a short game, and if he said he is that good then atleast out of 10 he should get 1 close to that impossible score)
@@tacokoneko I can actually believe that Dream did genuinely forget about a mod or two that he had active. His response to the accusation was batshit and overly-defensive for something so insignificant ...but given Dream's conceit of doing fun silly things when he's not speed-running, the initial action of 'cheating'/'submitting a fake run' isn't something I hold against him.
@@teamdoa Gotta give him that. Allthough far from the god gamer he claimed to be he has at least proved that he can play both DK and Pacman pretty well at least from a casual perspective. While Todd as far as I know have not proved anything.
As I was watching the video, I saw the sentence "Plaintiff received monetary from the sale of Plaintiff's book." at 8:25 and I was surprised that Karl didn't call attention to it. That's one hell of a sentence, and I wanted to point it out. After I finished the video, I went back to find the time stamp so people could see what I was going to refer to. Before typing this comment, I took a few seconds and read the rest of what is displayed. There are 5 sentences on screen at that time stamp, and only one is typo free. Gotta love Pro Se filings.
I had this feeling that the part about Todgers *and others* being part of gaming community, talking about stressful lawsuits and abusing system, compulsive lying and karma hitting back soon wasn't solely about Todd himself. Best luck man!
I am offering a $200 bounty for anyone to successfully locate a copy of Todd's 'book'.
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Rodd Togers?
@@ThisSteveGuy Nah man, Rodd Rogers
😂😂😂😂
Ridge is not available in the Philippines unfortunately. I've been wanting ridge for a long time.
Clearly it would be absolutely dumb for him to do so, but do you think Todgers is claiming the Guinness WR book he is featured in is what he means by "his book"?
I think the most ludicrous part of the whole saga is that the game is Dragster. Not Super Mario Bros. Not Pac-Man, nor Centipede, nor Pokemon, nor Minecraft, nor Tetris. None of the most respected or well-known games in the history of video games, but freaking Dragster. It's both hilarious and so very sad
How dare you disrespect Dragster like that.
@@grunkleg.2934 Boy, that went from 0 to 5.51 real quick
Dragster is Legend
@@tgrsgjiutf me neither lol
I think his obsession with Dragster ties to the contest that was held by Activision back when the game was released. The contest was for money and fame, which Todd cheated for, and milked dry long ago.
If someone could find a way to trick Todd and Billy to sue each other, we would have free entertainment tor the rest of our lives
Change Todd’s name to “Karl Jobst” and change Billy’s name to “ Guinness” and they’ll go after eachothers throats
God damnit, that was my idea! I'm going to sue you for plagiarism! And defamation! And tortious interference! And... uh, ugliness!
Like 2 minecraft skeletons going at it.
@@cburgess5294 two small slimes attacking each other
Countersuit after countersuit. It'll be a bottomless inception of countersuits.
Imagine you're a child and dream about being a judge, serving justice, upholding the law, punishing criminals and protecting the innocent. And then reality hits you and you have to reply to Todger's incoherent love letters instead.
If Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers teamed up and started speed running games, we could truly call them "tool assisted speed runs."
10/10 pun
You mean "FOOL assisted speed runs" , no?
@@Delphi80SVK that would work too. 😄
Honestly got a laugh out if me, thanks.
This is one of the greatest TH-cam comments I've ever read. Well done haha
When the world needed him the least, he returned.
That's Togers for ya.
You beat me to the joke
While we wait
No, no, he returned just when we needed him the most. He is the gift that keeps giving.
The idiot we don't need but deserve
7:10 "The problem here is that Todd isn't a lawyer, and has no idea what he is doing." - Todd Rogers life the past few years summarized
It's kinda sad.
@@merrisshines5182its the saddest thing ever. I remember watching his segment on Chasing Ghosts and just being saddened that he just ended up an old loser in a broken down living room surrounded by tarantula cases playing his old games alone
@@juniorsanchez7441 What a pity... He's a slimeball, but his life is pitiful.
“To clog up the legal system with things of such a trivial nature requires a special kind of cognitive dysfunction.”
Damn, Karl, he’d probably be furious about that if he could figure out what half those words mean.
Genius looool
To clog up the legal system with things of a trivial nature is an American tradition tho
At that moment it felt like Karl taunting him to sue him as well:D
Yung, you are a legend! 😀
@@tim..indeed florida
If the dude actually DID write a book and made ita confession of all his cheating it might ironically sell well.
Good point - 'Tod Togers and why I'm such a dick' - I'd want to read that...
If I did it 2
Uh... maybe. How many people would want to give him money for the "privilege" of reading a confession from a sweaty, lying old fart?
Seriously. An exposé on the shady inner workings of early video game records. Funny these guys are too arrogant and selfish to see that they have an actual opportunity.
That is until people realize they could pirate the book, living up to Todd Todger's legacy in the process.
Not that I condone piracy normally but...if it's Todd Todger's who'd profit I don't mind.
This just shows to how powerful Guinness and Twin Galaxies are, they removed his book from existence.
Dang... They hurt his reputation so bad that not only did it hurt the sales of his book, but actually willed it out of existence.
Hehehehe
Ha. Even if everything in this ridiculous document WERE true, it's up to Guinness and Twin Galaxies to grant or retract awards from anyone, for any or no reason. Todd is such a failure at all things.
"They have no place in our society." Now now, Karl... My mama always told me, 'You can be a good example, or a horrible warning, but either way, you're doing something.' Todd is just fulfilling the 'Horrible warning' quota for rather a lot of people, that's all.
A horrible warning can be fixed or turned around for the better... The problem is Todd din't move on and fix his mistakes. Instead he doubled down on lies despite all factual evidence saying otherwise.
That's why he remained in the "Horrible warning", which should serve as a lesson for what not to do.
@@ashurad_fox5991 That was exactly my mother's point. Some people are good for nothing BUT being a horrible warning, but at least such people are being of SOME use.... By showing other people just how badly their poor behavior has gone for them.
what other little bits of wisdon did yr mama share with you? i love folksy old adages like that
Your mama sounds amaizing
Have you ever heard of Stuttering John? He fulfills the second part of that saying as well. R/dabblersanonymous
Everyone: "You just had a lawsuit"
Todd: "But what about second lawsuit?"
What If I pull the accelerator before first lawsuit?
You tried, I'll give you that. But it just wasn't funny 🤷♂️
Frivolous lawsuits really sicken me. I very much know how it feels being sued. My company is being sued by a competitor for no reason other than trying to get me bankrupt due to legal fees. It made 2022 the most stressful year of my life. Two weeks ago the court finally decided to rule in my favor and rejected every single claim the plaintiff made (all 7) and I got rewarded about 15% of my actual lawyers fees. Yesterday I received an email from their lawyers telling me they are going to appellate court. Looks like 2023 won't be much of a change... We really need some better/decent laws in place to stop frivolous lawsuits!
They should pay 100% of the fee. But then there'd be way less lawsuits and lawyers would have to work for less money.
Depending on what the lawsuit was about and where you live, it could be a "SLAPP" (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation), which some states have laws against (if you aren't in the US there's probably some similar concept in your jurisdiction). Even in states with "Anti-SLAPP" laws it can be hard to recover under though.
@@barry1902 ding ding ding. 100 pts to Griffindor
That's outrageous. In Finland, the losing party always pays for the legal fees for the winning one (the idea being, you don't sue unless you're damn sure you're winning it).
@@Massacretalitor That's a huge disincentive to sue large corporations even if you have a solid case.
"Plaintiff received a monetary"
This is the most sentence ever written.
Plaintiff received a monet
And at the very least, it's one of the sentences of all times.
Truly one of the sentences of all time
He just wants a money
I loved the moment in the document where Togers went "It's Togin' time" and Toged all over those guys.
When you described what Tortious Interference was, my first thought was that he'd be suing Twin Galaxies for ruining his contract with Guinness by telling them the record was fake in the first place. I didn't think it would be smart or valid, but I mean, at least it would look somewhat like a lawsuit and not just an expensive piece of paper
The Tortuous Interference must have been extremely thorough so that it completely removed Todd's book and all its traces from existence. Considering he can't even find it himself, that's the only explanation.
He should up the suit to a billion dollars. Maybe they'll pay out in Monopoly money, since this is all based on a make-believe record anyway.
Maybe the reason Twin Galaxies is called that is because they actually possess sci-fi technology, including a time machine which they've used to erase Rogers's book from the timeline.
Glad to see Todd Rogers is so humble as to willingly give Karl content.
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@Jason Voorhees karl will pull through
Todd seems to be harmless, trying to keep up with Billy but flailing about.
Imagine becoming a judge only to receive a letter from Todd Toddler
I mean the only worse letters would be from Billie Mitchell or Semi-Successful bankruptcy magnate Donald Trump.
Todd Togers is the king of Channel F.
@@sorrenblitz805 Imagine frothing at the mouth (or rather, fingertips) about Trump in the year of our Lord 2023.
@@mikeoxlong1395Trump is trash and always was, even before being a President, and will always be trash and very fun to make fun of
@@mikeoxlong1395never too late
The thing is, he could ACTUALLY make money telling his story of how he faked it all those years and the lengths he had to go through to hide/ obfuscate/ lie in order to keep it going (including the old Twin Galaxies culpability)
Actually, more than that. Someone who had faked scores for so many games, who couldn't even get close to replicating them live, should be *amazing* at recognizing fake runs and other tomfoolery... or should I say "Todd-foolery".
Kinda like how an IT company would want to have a professional "hacker" to stress-test their own security systems and then patch whatever holes they discover. Forget a book, Todd could get paid to be the guy calling out other people for faking their speed-runs!
@@onijester56 except he didn't even put the kind of effort into his fakes that would be needed to get past modern moderation, he just pulled numbers out of his ass and quoted them to crony friends who put them on the leaderboards without checking.
A 'Catch Me If You Can' for video games, if you will
@@onijester56 "Kinda like how an IT company would want to have a professional "hacker" to stress-test their own security systems and then patch whatever holes they discover. Forget a book, Todd could get paid to be the guy calling out other people for faking their speed-runs!"
He's not some genius adept at manipulating code that anyone would pay him for that skill. He just got known off one grainy polaroid, and got buddy buddy with Walter Day and made up a bunch of times/scores.
@@onijester56 penetration
"You can't just keep suing people for the same thing after you lose... but Todd has an IQ of 250"
lost my shit at that one dude lol
There really should be some sort of law that says you only get so many failed lawsuits total and you're just completely barred from filing anymore.
Then again, we wouldn't get this kind of gold stories about people like Togers anymore...
Karl does that on purpose, he never insults or demeans him, only states facts like the record is literally impossible. He could get sued for saying Todd is stupid, but how do you sue someone for saying you're smart?
He probably cheated the score
@@insanospaz pretty sure a law like that does exist? Just not in the United States lol.
@@insanospaz alternatively you should be required to pay all legal fees for both parties and only get refunded if you finally win after you get hit with a what's it called SLAPP?
I can just hear the heavy sigh from the Twin Galaxies guys after they opened their mail to find another dumb lawsuit by that Togers guy.
This is his life. He has nothing to live for except for this. He’s got nothing else and it’s pathetic. Take this as a cautionary tale on what NOT to become ladies and gents.
I'm not saying this to defend his actions, but when you base your entire personality on a lie, it can feel like you're being personally attacked when people come along and they tell the truth about you.
@@dustinjames1268 Why are you saying it then? Of course, you may be right that this is how he sees it himself. But how does that matter at all, and how does it change anything about what he's doing or what he's done? You must've brought it up for SOME reason.
@@RiskOfBaer To try and understand why the guy goes for such already lost lawsuits maybe?
@@RiskOfBaer
I don’t get why people instantly shut down anything that resembles trying to see where the opposition comes from. It’s _very_ easy to oversimplify and defamiliarise anyone you disagree with. Guy who replied to you wasn’t even playing devil’s advocate, literally just gave a reason why a person might think the way they do. You even admitted they might be right, so what’s the problem?
@@RiskOfBaer 🤡 this is you
There's a poetry in people being so obsessed with their reputation that they will overly react to the first damage to it, to the point of destroying it in the process.
As for Todgers, he is great entertainment ! I go through so many emotions whenever he's involved !
His obsession is sad, his resilience inspiring, his method revolting, and his incompetence hilarious.
That last sentence 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤣🤣🤣
Brilliantly written comment
So obsessed with their reputation that they dedicate themselves to setting fire to what little rep they gave left.
We should rename the streisand effect to Todgers effect.
With Todgers there is the part where he seems to have faked everything he did not just the dragster record. Still I guess he has tied his entire ego to that dragster record.
Let's say he really achieved that record, multiple times. He's now had decades to provide or create video evidence of that. He knows it's possible, he knows the method, he's clearly willing to dedicate his life into proving it. If he had just spent entire time attempting to replicate that record and kept camera rolling, by all odds he should have eventually succeeded in that, even by accident. But he's done literally anything but that. That's all the evidence I need.
But you weren't there! And he totally did it! The scores he input himself prove it! Pay no attention to the math behind the curtain!
in all fairness he is much older now so it would be impossible for him to top his best.
@@EugenIustin it's not like an extreme sport or complex game or anything like that
Unless he's got arthritis, it shouldn't be that hard to get that score
@@angrybidoof847 yeah some joint ore bone problem i had in mind. Also the eyes idk
@@EugenIustin he doesn't have joint problems as far as we know
Or any vision issues either (he doesn't even need glasses)
He should just accept the Guinness record for most fake records and get on with his life
"Most fake" in which sense - the greatest number of fake records, or the records that are the fakest? I think Todd is good for fakest, with his being technically not feasible, while Bitchell still takes the one for highest number, with the fake DK record scores.
@@davedixon2167 Todd had "held" over 1700 high scores in various games on Twin Galaxies. All of these were removed by new management, after more than a hundred of those were flagged by community as exceptionally suspicious or impossible.
@@SianaGearz oh shit I did not remember all that! my bad
@@davedixon2167 yeah numerous of those claimed scores couldn't even be processed or displayed by the game due to having too many digits, or weren't possible due to score keeping logic of the game, such as when a game only increments the score in 50 point increments starting from 0 but the submitted score ends with a "9". Plus quite a lot of scores orders of magnitude above known good players. Todd probably never even played most of the games he submitted high scores on.
DEATH!!!!! Hail Chuck
Todd looks like the fun uncle at the family reunion that always knows where to get good cocaine
r/oddlyspecific
When Karl said “to look like an absolute” I just filled in “legend” in my head out of reflex. And I felt sad. But then he hit us with “douche bag” and it was cathartic
Not EVERYONE can be a legend
Any speedrun Todd makes is by definition tool assisted.
Assisted by a tool, you might say
Ha
You underestimate the sheer power of the human element.
Todd-assisted?
@@rinoz47 Yes, that was the joke.
I remember reading a funny story about Rogers on a retro gamers blog several years ago. This guy was at a retro gaming convention and he had a rented a booth to sell his stuff. He happened to have two loose copies of Dragster on his table that were for sale. He said Rogers stopped by and they talked for several minutes. He said Todd was very nice and that they had a good conversation. A little later on he needed to use the bathroom so he had his young son watch over things while he was gone. When he got back he later noticed that Rogers had autographed both copies of Dragster without asking permission to do so. He included pictures of the carts in his blog post and Rogers had signed them and included his fake time as part of the autograph. He said he didn't ever say anything but it bothered him that Rogers had done this without his permission.
Oh boy more Todd Todgers! I love watching this guy make an ass out of himself!
"how come Jobst keeps getting sued by the most random people........." cause they dont want him to talk about this stuff !!!
If only he was as good at Dragster as he was at making himself look like a complete knob!
Some of the people he keeps suing need to countersue him for harASSment.
This wallet salesman continues to make some great points!
They are the finest wallets in all the land, sire!
@@Bellicosy Absolutely legendary
I bought a Ridge wallet a while back. I still use it to this day, it’s worth the money.
@@msf_recursion wallah?
This is the funniest comment I've seen all year!
That absolute legend was going for the "getting a case thrown out" speedrun.
I think he succeeded because it was already thrown out
Todd and Karl are in cahoots. I got it all figured out. There's no way the esteemed Mr. Togers, holder of the world's oldest video game record (and probably the coolest and most impressive feat in human history if we're being honest), renowned ladies man, expert strategist, and all around staple of the gaming community, could possibly be doing something this stupid without some bigger plan. It must be for content. Yep, that's what it is.
Stop snitchin, you're gonna blow up their hustle
@Jason Voorhees Who was the other guy, again?
@@deleetiusproductions3497 apollo legend
When Karl calls him "Todd Todgers" it always brings a smile to my face 🙂
Honestly Todd probably should publish a book. If he wrote a book about his whole story, including coming clean about the cheating, and how exactly he did it all, that'd probably make him a lot of money.
Chaper 1. The Cheat
One day in 1982 I spoke with a friendly Twin Galaxies referee.
- Will you accept my fake 5.51 record?
- No problem, Todd.
Chapter 2. The Fame
...
That would require stringing together several original ideas with an honest account, something that Rogers seems rather incapable of.
Perhaps even as much as 996,400!
@FrigidYeti Chapter 4: uhh, profit
Not gunna lie, I would totally read that.
I thought Paul Blart the mall cop was the thumbnail, and I was happy that he managed to make a new career in gaming to help pay for his situation after the last documentary about his life.
I thought it was an older picture of Ron Jeremy.
@@The_Rifster Lol
Me too
The judges are gonna love how much of a waste of time these lawsuits are. As soon as the judge hears "video game" he or she is gonna go "I don't get paid enough for this shit... Plaintiff gets nothing, have a nice day"
Your humor has gotten so good over time. But I guess you gotta give Todgers some of the credit for providing the fuel.
12 minutes of Karl calling this guy a dick was pretty funny. I hope todgers friends picked up on this nickname
This situation has stopped being funny once these weirdos started suing everyone left and right so props to you Karl for keeping up the great humor, you really killed it with the closing statement lmao. All the best man, take care.
If suing TwinGalaxies is a game to him, then you could say he now has the world record of suing them.
Nah, he's tied with "Todd Todgers"
No way you're still being sued. I'm sorry to hear that man. I wish all the best for you and your family. Life is hard enough as it is
Lawsuits can take literal _years_ to be settled. Karl will likely be locked in a legal battle with Mitchell for a while longer still.
The craziest thing from this, is that he originally tries to battle this in court back in 2017. He loses the case, and goes dormant for 5 years, and comes back to retry a case basically the same lawsuit but with a different way to sue for the same amount that he tried to get 5 years ago in order to not be legally be in a double jeopardy situation in which a person cannot sue for the same charges twice after the first was dismissed or closed or a mistrial, whichever the case occurred. At least if I was a judge that's the conclusion I would have come to anyhow.
It's so crazy that these people because of something so trivial they accomplished over 30 years ago, and because the courts deemed it not even worthy to even try any of these cases, Todd and Billy basically doubles and triples down by attempting to sue basically for the same case under different wording to get the same amount of money they originally sued for years ago.. How much more stupidity can you get... Now that's "legendary" there. Legendary idiotic beings that gain more status by being more idiotic than years ago over a score..
Todd Togers must be the first man in history to speedrun getting a smooth brain.
The smoothness cuts down on drag. That’s how he can start the race in 2nd gear.
Fr fr, I bet he even remove some mass from it to remove excess weight for a faster time lol
The irony is that his lawyering skills exceed his gaming abilities
Popped the clutch broke his brain.
@@MacGuffin1 i dont see how that's ironic. Nor do i see it as necessarily accurate. He's equally laughable at both, and referring to his interactions as "skills" is giving him more credit than he's due.
4:58 By that logic, that 5.51 Dragster time that Todd claims he got would be the first ever tool assisted speedrun.
This is such a finely crafted joke. Amazing job lol
I was thinking the exact same thing. 😆
Ayyyy looool
World record!
Brilliant lmao
I couldn't help but chuckle every time you called him "Togers"
The hilarious thing is that the name Todd comes from the old English word for "fox". 😂
I'd say "it's not about winning, it's about sending a message," but that would require Todgers to have a message in the first place.
A more accurate thing would be to say "it's not about money, it's about ego" because if they'd just accept that they cheated they could write a book about that and actually profit from their notoriety.
Randomly switching between Rogers and Togers was a great addition
I remember my high school teacher talking about this guy and how much of a cheat he was and how he was being ridiculous with his lawsuit. I feel that was forever ago. Almost 10 years and he's still fighting over this ridiculous thing.
Todd Rogers is the kind of person who makes you feel better about yourself for not being him. No matter how much of a failure you think you are. Even if you work a job you hate, have zero self-esteem/confidence, and think you're better off dead... You're still a better human than Todd Rogers.
He has a livable wage and enough money to throw around lawsuits. I can barely afford good. I might be nicer than Todd, but he's better off than me.
@@Liggliluff he clearly has no money anymore. That's why he didn't even hire a lawyer.
@@Liggliluff you don't need money to throw around for lawsuits, especially if you're writing them up yourself and representing yourself.
@@RatAndRaven yeah but there's still court fees which can accumulate really fast, and representing yourself most of the time is how you make sure you lose your own lawsuit.
@@RatAndRavenwritten it and mispelling your own nome in the lawsuit
Imagine spending years of your life like Todd and Billy, they peaked decades ago and won’t let it go. Whenever you think your life kinda sucks at times, think of them, you’ll feel better.
If nothing else, I have better hair then either of them...but so does pretty much everyone else too.
I think my life kinda sucks a lot, and this actually helps me a little yeah. It's sad though. These guys are fighting for a sliver of their former glory (that was fake from the start anyways) like it's all they have. I think it makes sense that Todd was quite young when he achieved the impossible. Maybe he went with his dumbass teenage ideas, got lucky, and thus was never forced to deal with the real world. I wonder what his childhood was like. Something tells me "good" or similar aren't words he would think of if asked this question.
imagine a fake world record being your peak
It's not even that they peaked, it's that they ran a scam. And the point of a successful scam is to *disappear* before your marks realize they've been scammed, which these two clowns have failed magnificently at
@@onikoneko The world record part of this scam of theirs is what guaranteed their doom, cause they couldn't just disappear. They held world records which were impossible and so could only be beated by another even dumber scammer lmao, they were destined to remain in the public light.
What is truly sad are the judges and system that even humor these lawsuits, because even if frivolous and false they still drag innocent people into financial troubles. A lawsuit like this should be dismissed write from the beginning from any reasonable judge.
"HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN?!"
So proud of Todd for getting his law degree
I mean, he found it in the dumpster behind a Wendy's, but he still got it.
When I was editor of GameRoom Magazine, Todd called me up one day and asked me to send him one copy of every issue that mentioned him (I didn't do it). That told me everything I needed to know about Todd...
1. This video is the funniest ultimate roast I’ve ever seen
2. I wish I was there to see the judge/the defendant’s lawyer when they read Rodgers’ lawsuit and burst out laughing
The judge would have a brain fart and die trying to understand it!
Dang Karl, you were straight savage in this video. You must be so done with these people. Love your work man, stay happy and safe.
"requires a special kind of cognitive disfunction" I'm dying bro hahahaha
I'm pretty sure what he's trying to say in his lawsuit, is that they knew he had a contract with a publisher to write a book, and they publicly announced the removal of his record, and because of that the publisher backed out of the contract so the book he wrote never got released. Hence why you can't find it anywhere.
As much as I love Karl's analytical brain dealing with speedrunning records, there is nothing to make my day funnier than videos on Mitchell and Rodgers. Can't wait for the next one already!
You mean Bitchell and Todgers 😁
Maybe he's just going for the Guinness World Record for most frivolous lawsuits
then he's up against some stiff competition - he'd best knuckle down and get on with it, or he'll be left in the dust by the Sovereign Citizens
@@undeadMonk JONATHAN LEE RICHES
2500+
He's going to have a heck of a time taking that title away Billy Mitchell.
He's going to have to pump those numbers up, these are rookie numbers.
@@wilh3lmmusic OMG:
«One lawsuit, in which George W. Bush was the first-named defendant, also includes another 783 defendants that cover 57 pages. They include Plato, Nostradamus, Che Guevara, James Hoffa, "Various Buddhist Monks," all survivors of the Holocaust, the Lincoln Memorial, the Eiffel Tower, the USS Cole, the book Mein Kampf, the Garden of Eden, the Roman Empire, the Appalachian Trail, Plymouth Rock, the Holy Grail, Nordic gods, the dwarf planet Pluto, and the entire Three Mile Island accident.»
Okay, so, few things to say here.
1: It's been said that a person who represents themself in court has a fool for a client, but this is just nuts.
2: Not gonna lie, when I saw the title, I honestly thought it was gonna be a video about Tim.
3: Vexatious Litigation. The repetition of Todd's lawsuits is probably enough for the offended parties to claim harassment. (I'm not a lawyer though.)
Harassment’s a high bar to clear. Two suits might not be enough. Filing the crap he drafted himself on baseless claims enough times can be enough for a judge to not allow him to file further lawsuits unless he hires an attorney and actually listens to them or a judge reads his complaint and allows it to be filed. Rare punishments to be meted out, access to courts by everyone is important to our system, but sometimes warranted.
I cringe SO hard every time I watch that clip that's shown at 1:38 lmao
This has got to be one of the best living example of someone who peaked in high school.
That would be true... If he actually got that record.
He probably peaked in kindergarten
Seriously, why does Togers think he can reclaim that old glory? It’s over. Nobody would know about Dragster these days if it weren’t for him. He’s a known liar. Clogging up the legal system is ineffective.
Your jelous
Togers hasn’t even begun to peak. When he does hes going to peak so hard over all of us
As a lawyer, I have to give you a lot of praise for this video, like your other law-related videos. As far as it goes for TH-cam content produced by non-lawyers, it really is top notch and shows a real engagement with the issues. Any attorney would be quite proud to have such a sophisticated client-and happier still to represent you on a case as hilarious and near-sanctionable as this.
Are you really a lawyer? Wow! Thats rare to see on yt
OMG 😱
Its always pissed me off that they said he held the record since 1980 but there was literally a published Activision magazine that showed the record holders being Chuck Hunter and son from 1981
It's a bold strategy, Todgers. Let's see how it pays off.
lmao
Got to give the guy props; He's turned himself into an excellent source of entertainment. A clown, if you will.
Yeah, but clowns actually scare some people. This guy just earns pity laughs.
He's the whole circus at this point.
10:24 Is it just me, or does Todgers look like the shopkeeper from one of the Zelda CDI games?
I just love that the Todgers running gag continues even in this video
I already felt like this lawsuit was gonna fail hard just like the last one, but once you said that he’s doing it without a lawyer this time, that’s just a guarantee that this will fail even harder. No one should ever try to represent themselves in any legal case, let alone a second stab at suing someone.
"The man who represents himself has a fool for a client."
- common saying of unknown origin
Anyone who represents themselves likely doesn't have enough emotional distance from the situation to make sound logical arguments.
@@alexanderkosten7611 even lawyers in the field of their expertise should be getting another lawyer to represent them.
@@mwperk02 I was curious about that and it makes sense given it can’t be someone that’s also personally involved in the case, though I feel like it’s still objectively better than someone with zero legal experience trying to be their own lawyer.
I can't believe it Karl skipped right by Thanksgiving to hit the trigger event for Christmas truly revolutionary speed running
That would be because Australians don't celebrate Thanksgiving
@@alexwinfield9540 fair enough
On behalf of all Todd's we hereby renounce this one, he shall be known forthwith as "T-Dummy" or also acceptable is "T-Bag" we thank you for your understanding on this matter.
Sincerely, Todd G. ~ World Wide resource manager of the United Todd's foundation.
"Todgers" is pretty funny tho
God bless you sir you do great work, i knew a Todd once, he was a good man.
To watch this "Todger" sully the good name of Todds.... just disgusting.
"I even have a life sized cut out of Todd on my roof because I like the feeling of knowing todd is watch over me while I sleep" absolute gold!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
German humor at its peak
I love Todd.. he's the gift that keeps on giving.
More like the pile of crap that won't stop stinking
The more I watch these Todd Rogers videos, the more I'm convinced this was the man that used to hang with my dad and grow magic mushrooms with in the 90s.
He probably was. You should show your dad this video to see if it jogs his memory
Looks like you made a todger typo missing the word videos
1:00 "Those who look closely might notice that I've made a career of talking about video game scores."
As a longtime subscriber, fan, and supporter of this channel, I can assure you that I only had to watch a few dozen videos to initially notice this detail. As a pro gamester, I pick up on these things pretty darned quick. I guess it was time you let the cat out of the bag. I wonder how long it'll take the smooth brains to figure out your other big focus. Hint: it has to do with time
Hmmm... novelty clock collecting?
*Doctor Who Theme plays aggressively in the distance
Where's Todd? We'd like to hear from him- ask him "well, where's the book?"
Karl you''re missing a crucial point! The reason you can't find his book is precisely because of how much damaged Guinness did to him!! It definitely would've been the best book ever and its a shame that we'll never get to enjoy a literary work with such a human element to it
00
Bam. Conspiracy confirmed.
Yeah it was life changing lol.
I never knew such a book could be used to elevate my television just at the right height... Thanks Todd for making the book lol
He would sell 5.51 million copies!
Todd was about to release his bestseller, but he had to cancel to sue.
I think Todd was trying to say that he receives royalties from the sales of Guinness' books that listed his fake WR but worded it in the most awkward way possible.
Yeah that's my assumption as well
A good theory, but Guinness book does not give royalties or payments to those it features. All you get is fame and notoriety. Even if it did, with how many people there are featured in those books, you'd likely be looking at fractions of pennies per copy sold. Hard to see how it could amount to the money he's claiming in any scenario.
The saddest part of this is that despite how hilariously awful bad lawsuits such as these are, real people are actually receiving them and having to spend tens of thousands of dollars fighting them.
There is a limit to you actually bullshit bad lawsuits until you're in jail
Todd Rogers is the definition of “peaked in high school”
not even, he never peaked he’s just stayed at a low
@@texasred4339 his peak is the size of a pebble on the road
Peaked lol, it's the same chance of him starting the game on 2nd gear
@FrigidYeti if he keeps this up, 10 years later when the game became public domain... People will disect the code.
(Considering I'm also a software porgrammer... I might go ahead and datamine it when it became public domain)
@@ashurad_fox5991 that already happened, furry. A guy analyzed the game code and so it was universally accepted that a time of 5.51 is not possible within the game.
Todd is going for a new world record, most lawsuits over nothing
Not if Billy Mitchel has something to say about that, lol.
It's a tight competition considering Billy Mitchel is around. Even fraudulent companies are afraid to dis one of them lol
@@jamtone4492 Oh, they are competing against each other over the title! That explains everything!.
@FrigidYeti this just in todgers suing Billy Mitchell after this new discovery because of todgers herculean ego n not allowing someone to OUTSUE him
The lawsuit will be for ONE MILLION dollars plus additional damages n lawyer fees of course
How will Mitchell respond
Thats a category with some serious competition. He not talented enough to get that one.
“Todd’s shortcomings as a lawyer…” is not a phrase I thought I’d ever hear
Damn, Todd was a decent lookin dude in his 20s. How the fuck did he end up as discount Ron Jeremy?
This guy is a perfect case of study for narcissism
Geez, I would feel bad for the team that would would even just skim his information regarding this for context.
Like seriously... There are too many. And all of them show just how narcissistic he is.
Him and Billy Mitchel
Todd Togers: *starts using his same old tricks again*
Everyone: *starts laughing nonstop*
Wow, you watched the video too? No way.
found the book. it's called "Can Ron Jeremy Do THIS With HIS Stick? Records Galore And Much Much More!"
My thesis is that Todd is purposely doing this, to provide Karl with material and us with entertainment. He is secretly a true hero, like Batman at the end of the Dark Knight.
I love how candid Karl is in this and pulls no punches. "Roger's being the idiot he is..." LMAO
The double spacing in his filing there is… I mean, how do I put this… it’s astonishing how much it looks like the complaint is begging to be a picture book.
Good ol' Todd Toddler back at it again. I can always count on your videos to make my day better. Just let this a lesson, never rely on WikiHow to make a legal document. Lmao
"HE'S SUING EVERYONE AGAIN!" with him holding the thumbs up is just so perfect lmao
I love that you're still going with the Todd Todgers bit. It makes me laugh every single time
I actually met Todd and became friends with him, spoke over voice, and even played Wizard101 with the guy. There was always something fishy. He asked my girlfriend at the time for indecent pictures behind my back. Won't say anything hateful so I don't get sued lol
I saw Todd Rogers at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
@@ElectricBarrier I was really confused for a second then I noticed it was the copypasta lol
@@ElectricBarrier No, not infetterence!!!
Hey Karl, you absolute legend.
It would be cool if you could reach out to a youtube lawyer and get them to read/explain what they interpret it as, and I'm sure there are some out there who would love to do it.
LeagleEagle, LawTalkWithMike, AttorneyTom are opitons you may like
A crossover with LawTube would be epic. My personal choice would be NateTheLawyer because he would join in on roasting Todgers when he sees the typo.
Why waste the favor on a suit so absurd it's guaranteed not to make it past discovery. There is no legal nuance to interpret here.
Leonard French is another option. Not as famous as Legal Eagle, but does a lot with gaming etc.
You don't need a lawyer to explain something that wasn't written by a lawyer. You might get them to list and explain what he should have filed. I wouldn't be shocked if this were dismissed without leave to amend.
Imagine this. The Mitchell and “Todgers” anime. Karl is laying on the ground after taking a devastating “Donkey-Donkey-Kong” (Ripoff of kamehameha) and Billy-aru comes over to give a final cease and desist notice, when out of nowhere Todd-aru has his redemption arc start, he does an early shift dragster style and sweeps in in front of Karl to take the blow that would have inevitably ended him, and in his final breath he says “It was fake, it was all faked. Now Go and stop this monster” but at this point Billy is already a huge flaming ass (donkey) in nothing but his super Mario boxers getting ready to splice Karl and Todd in half. But no, Karl reaches into his pocket to find… The Golden Gun, Karl looks down and runs diagonally towards him damage boosts himself right into Billy’s acorn balls crippling him for seconds, and Karl transforms into his final form, a tiny alien with a snorkel. Billy says “How could this be, my cranium is quintupled the size of your whole body, I should’ve outsmarted you years ago.” then Karl says “Thanks to manscaped I move much faster due to aerodynamic lack of pubes and my ridge wallet keeps my keys from holding me back” then he strafes away facing downwards as to not be slowed by lag, and throws one final nade into the air. Billy shits himself and try’s to run from the grenade, but it’s no use. His ridiculous hair makes it’s way under his foot causing him to trip, and fall, inevitably being victim to the nade. Nothing more remains but a crater, an ugly hairpiece that looks like a moth, and a Hawaiian t shirt with mustard stains.
Todd and Billy, the two who won't admit that they cheated.
For Todd, he was even proven wrong when people decided to use TAS. (Which couldn't even make that score)
Seriously as a software programmer, I would want to sermon how idiotic his claims are. If he said it was real, then why not do it again? Like he said he could. (It's a short game, and if he said he is that good then atleast out of 10 he should get 1 close to that impossible score)
Dream aspired to be like them but he's just not dedicated enough to "his truth"
@@tacokoneko I can actually believe that Dream did genuinely forget about a mod or two that he had active. His response to the accusation was batshit and overly-defensive for something so insignificant ...but given Dream's conceit of doing fun silly things when he's not speed-running, the initial action of 'cheating'/'submitting a fake run' isn't something I hold against him.
@@teamdoa Gotta give him that. Allthough far from the god gamer he claimed to be he has at least proved that he can play both DK and Pacman pretty well at least from a casual perspective. While Todd as far as I know have not proved anything.
@@ToTheGAMES it's an opinion that Karl Jobst also shares so make of that what you will
The return of Mr. Todgers! I can't wait to watch this!
As I was watching the video, I saw the sentence "Plaintiff received monetary from the sale of Plaintiff's book." at 8:25 and I was surprised that Karl didn't call attention to it. That's one hell of a sentence, and I wanted to point it out. After I finished the video, I went back to find the time stamp so people could see what I was going to refer to. Before typing this comment, I took a few seconds and read the rest of what is displayed. There are 5 sentences on screen at that time stamp, and only one is typo free.
Gotta love Pro Se filings.
I had this feeling that the part about Todgers *and others* being part of gaming community, talking about stressful lawsuits and abusing system, compulsive lying and karma hitting back soon wasn't solely about Todd himself. Best luck man!